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A little late or early depending on what you think of it but this title has caught my interest for Spring. Looking for something to help me recover after the ending to Kimikiss Kanokon is a light hearted school romance comedy(I know what you're thinking, not four paragraph posts heh) that adds a touch of the supernatural.
Here is the plot summary:
Kanokon`s story revolves around Kouta Oyamada, a young first-year high school student who moves from the country to the city and thus transfers to Kunpō High School. On his first day at his new school, a beautiful second-year female student named Chizuru Minamoto asks him to meet her alone in the music room. When he arrives, she reveals her that she is in fact a fox deity and from that day on the two hang out together.
Nozomu is a first year female student at Kouta`s school, she is in fact a wolf deity and in love with Kouta, and a rival of Chizuru for Kouta`s affections.
Hijinks ensue of course but the great thing is that you get movement from the first manga chapter and by the looks of the preview the first episode as well which is always nice.
The staff for the project:
Director: Atsushi Ootsuki
Series Composition: Masashi Suzuki
Music: Tsuyoshi Ito
Animation Production: Xebec
Not really big names but but Masashi has done Shuffle, so I'm hopeful(Hey, Chiwa Saito is doing a voice :beat: ) .
Here (http://hobby-channel.net/content/view/4312/67/) are the preview shots for the first episode. As you can see Chizuru isn't that modest
:grin:
Westlo
03-12-2008, 10:17 AM
I've read all the available manga chapters and it's been a fun ride so far with a hint that it could get serious rather early. In addition to the chances of the anime out pacing the manga having Kawasumi Ayako as Minamoto Chizuru has sold me on this show.
I am worried that since XEBEC is also doing To Love Ru this spring season both shows are going to get episodes with horrible animation.
I've read all the available manga chapters and it's been a fun ride so far with a hint that it could get serious rather early. In addition to the chances of the anime out pacing the manga having Kawasumi Ayako as Minamoto Chizuru has sold me on this show.
I am worried that since XEBEC is also doing To Love Ru this spring season both shows are going to get episodes with horrible animation.
I had To Love Ru scheduled for that anyway :grin: . I'm looking forward to it after checking out the manga and the real lure of "getting together and serious quick" makes this an automatic watch for me.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the first two chapters of the manga where Chizuru literally jumps all over the guy and even takes him to her house :grin: animated.
Draneor
03-12-2008, 11:01 AM
This is probably the show I am most looking forward to this spring. With two of my favorite seiyuu, Kawasumi Ayako & Noto Mamiko, as leads, I think this will end up being really great. Xebec has been hit or miss with me as far as animation studios go (hit: Stellvia & the Third/miss: Mahou Sensei Negima). Too bad Seven Seas won't have the light novel out by then.
I can't decide whether this show is R2 worthy. It seems Bandai has some type of involvement with it (at least, it seems to be related to the Bandai Channel). Well, it's not like I don't have four months to decide whether or not to import.
Anytime I see "Bandai Channel" and it isn't a hit mecha series or some sort of action show I instantly think of Bandai Visual.
Busaiku
03-12-2008, 11:28 AM
I'd been reading the manga, but it hasn't quite hit home with me.
But since that's still ongoing, I'm guessing things will be changed up, so I'll give it a shot with lowered expectations.
Draneor
03-12-2008, 11:30 AM
Anytime I see "Bandai Channel" and it isn't a hit mecha series or some sort of action show I instantly think of Bandai Visual.
They could just be the distributor or the producer. I should check when I get home. I'm hesistant to buy R2s of anything that may come over through Bandai Visual USA (might as well just wait for the R1 release).
Actually, I think it's Media Factory.
Westlo
03-12-2008, 11:32 AM
These sort of shows never really start off all that great but the last chapter released shows some promise. The 11th light novel just or is about to come out, I wouldn't mind reading some impressions from people who have read them.
Busaiku
03-12-2008, 11:34 AM
Oh, they're both based on light novels?
Well, it's not like I know what's going on there though, so I guess it might still be different.
Oh, they're both based on light novels?
Well, it's not like I know what's going on there though, so I guess it might still be different.
Pretty sure Seven Seas has them licensed, the light novels that is.
Draneor
03-12-2008, 11:53 AM
Oh, they're both based on light novels?
Well, it's not like I know what's going on there though, so I guess it might still be different.
Kanokon--yes. As Lego said, Seven Seas has licensed it, for a yet-to-be-determined release date.
To Love Ru is based on a manga that runs in Weekly Shounen Jump.
Westlo
03-12-2008, 12:09 PM
Yeah Kanokon is another light novel series to get a manga first and than an anime adaption. Kure-nai is another light novel to get both the manga/anime treatment.
Yeah Kanokon is another light novel series to get a manga first and than an anime adaption. Kure-nai is another light novel to get both the manga/anime treatment.
Most anime these days tend to have manga that start up with them to promote them, just look at Macross Frontier.
Draneor
03-12-2008, 05:32 PM
Speaking of Kanokon, Media Factory held a Kanokon/Zero no Tsukaima cross promotion event (http://en.akibablog.net/archives/2008/03/kanokon-zero-080310.html). They also sold all sorts of limited edition loot (http://www.kanokon.com/event080309/sale.html). Reading about stuff like this I will never experience really makes me want to migrate.^^
Speaking of Kanokon, Media Factory held a Kanokon/Zero no Tsukaima cross promotion event (http://en.akibablog.net/archives/2008/03/kanokon-zero-080310.html). They also sold all sorts of limited edition loot (http://www.kanokon.com/event080309/sale.html). Reading about stuff like this I will never experience really makes me want to migrate.^^
Yeah, I know what ya mean. They must have high hopes for it if they're promoting it that much.
Some of those are awfully :virgin: . I still cannot believe Zero is getting yet another season. If it can get 3 but Shana cannot there will truly be no justice in this world. Time will tell.
Westlo
03-12-2008, 11:13 PM
After 2 seasons Shana will end up with 48 episodes while after its 2 seasons Znt will only have 25. I'm guessing the third will also be in the 12-13 range and premiere in Summer. I'm sure the next 24/26 episode series coming from J.C Staff after Spring will be the 4th season of Slayers in I'm guessing Fall.
Sales have been very good for Shana The Second (10k avg), it is airing in probably the best nighttime slot aside from Noitamina. Shana S1 did an average of 12k, Code Geass did 44k, Darker Than Black did 7k and Shana S2 is at 10k and Macross Frontier is taking over the slot in Spring.
Nosredna
03-12-2008, 11:21 PM
Ayako Kawasumi's playing the lead? I'm definitely checking this show out now.
Some of those are awfully :virgin: . I still cannot believe Zero is getting yet another season. If it can get 3 but Shana cannot there will truly be no justice in this world. Time will tell.
The manga is awfully :virgin: from the beginning chapter, so it should be fun to see that in animated form. They got an early jump with last months or this months Megami(ugh I forget since magazines in Japan get released so early anymore).
Westlo
03-16-2008, 12:49 PM
http://www.kanokon.com/index-n.html
Fanservice ahoy! (http://www.kanokon.com/index-n.html)
The mature content warning in the preview was a pretty good indicator, but this still looks to be the most fanservice heavy show of the season me thinks.
The mature content warning in the preview was a pretty good indicator, but this still looks to be the most fanservice heavy show of the season me thinks.
Thats what I was talking about :grin:. If the show follows the manga then it'll have tons of fanservice right out of the gate complete with a undressing main female character ready to "get it on" with the main male character right out of the gate heh.
While I know we'll have those usual romantic comedy "moments" I like the fact that at least they're forthright. That and "Bath Time" :blush:. I'm not to familiar with the light novels, just the manga, so I'd tell you more if I could aside from what I've read.
Westlo
03-29-2008, 05:06 PM
TAF Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjpewr-Dk7E
They didn't waste any time in showing what sort of show this would be. Kouta's really young looking but I kinda forget all about that when Chizuru's tits are on screen.
Nosredna
03-29-2008, 05:48 PM
Good find, thanks. Pretty interesting trailer (except for the bad camera work and the people walking by :P ), I'm definitely going to try this show out.
Draneor
03-29-2008, 07:46 PM
Seriously, Xebec better not screw this up because I really want to get the R2s. The trailer looked hopeful, but that had better not be the extent of fanservice as the manga showed much more. ^^
Suwako Moriya
03-29-2008, 07:51 PM
*Watches* So this is the story of two really horny girls into shouta? At least that's the vibe the trailer gives off to me. This sounds like it could easily be hit or miss...
*Watches* So this is the story of two really horny girls into shouta? At least that's the vibe the trailer gives off to me. This sounds like it could easily be hit or miss...
From the manga I haven't seen the other girl yet, but yeah the main one just kind of jumps all over him(not a spoiler, the trailer showed it). I'm debating on watching this since it's bound to have some "drama moments" and the last thing I need is to have myslef hooked again :susel:
TheGreenMan
03-29-2008, 08:13 PM
Hmmm. They didn't even show the short, grey haired girl at all in the trailer, other than the one picture that's been floating around already.
Suwako Moriya
03-29-2008, 08:22 PM
I'm debating on watching this since it's bound to have some "drama moments" and the last thing I need is to have myslef hooked again :susel:
Don't tell me you're thinking only watching laid back safe series from now on.
Nah, I'd probably leave things like this for the end of the season so I don't annoy you wonderful people like I did this season :grin:.
At least with something like Library I know how it ends via novels. I'll watch Macross but that has mechs...
Kanokon, depending on length will be my first experiment in "waiting till the end of the season".
HitokiriShadow
03-29-2008, 11:58 PM
Let's see.... the art and animation look solid, will be fanservice heavy, stars horny animal girls.... and Mamiko Noto plays one of said horny animal girls. Hell yes, I'm in.
Busaiku
03-30-2008, 12:26 AM
Hmm, I'm liking the way the anime looks more than the manga.
Since they're both adapating the same thing, I guess I'll drop that in favor of this.
Suwako Moriya
03-30-2008, 12:29 AM
Let's see.... the art and animation look solid, will be fanservice heavy, stars horny animal girls.... and Mamiko Noto plays one of said horny animal girls. Hell yes, I'm in.
Mamiko Noto is in this? Hmm knowing that does make the show a bit more interesting now. Either way I still have to think about this. I don't want a repeat of certain shows.
Westlo
03-30-2008, 06:24 AM
Sorry to rain on the Mamiko Noto parade but she's voicing the main male character Kouta, not one of the horny animal girls :( Ayako Kawasumi (<3) is Chizuru Minamoto the main female and her silver haired rival is voiced by Miyū Takeuchi who is a newcomer going by ANN.
Also Aya if you have a spare ten minutes check out the 4-5 manga chapters available on line. If you don't like the manga I doubt you will like the show. Chapter 6 is already hinting at some things to come so it doesn't seem to be complete fluff. I tried to read the manga for every series that was getting an adaption this spring to help me with my show selection for Spring.
@ Lego
I really doubt this is one series where you will have to worry about the final pairing. The only series this Spring that looks like having an actual love triangle that might be hard to predict is Macross Frontier which you're watching anyway! There really is no True Tears, Kimikiss or ef in this season. Most of the rom com main pairings are obvious and does anyone on this planet believe that Lelouch won't be with C.C if he doesn't die by the end of CGR2?
HitokiriShadow
03-30-2008, 12:23 PM
Mamiko Noto is voicing a male? :( That's a new one... disappointing, but the show still looks like it could be pretty good.
Suwako Moriya
03-30-2008, 12:51 PM
Also Aya if you have a spare ten minutes check out the 4-5 manga chapters available on line. If you don't like the manga I doubt you will like the show. Chapter 6 is already hinting at some things to come so it doesn't seem to be complete fluff.
I'll think about it. Although sometimes a bad manga can have a good anime and sometimes a good manga can have a bad anime. Regardless hearing it may not be complete could be a positive sign. Regardless I just feel it's a wait and see type thing. Mainly because it gave the impression of a show that will either be fun to watch on the side or one that will ultimately feel empty. If I'm lucky it will be the former.
Suwako Moriya
03-30-2008, 01:29 PM
All right I finished reading some of the manga. It looks like this may indeed have potential. I guess part of it will depend on how I end up feeling about both girls in question.
All right I finished reading some of the manga. It looks like this may indeed have potential. I guess part of it will depend on how I end up feeling about both girls in question.
That and the length. Shows like this always get half the treatment novel wise or end wide open.
Suwako Moriya
03-30-2008, 07:41 PM
That and the length.
That's going to be the fun part. Too short and there won't be time for anything to really develop. Too long and it will wear out its welcome. Regardless I might lean towards holding off until after it's over before deciding. Just not sure yet.
Sweeped
03-30-2008, 08:08 PM
It's 12 episodes long
It's 12 episodes long
Then I'd be very surprised if it wasn't an open ending or just a "temp ending" looking at all of the manga and novels out. Still I'm sure I'll enjoy it since it's short.
Nosredna
03-31-2008, 12:07 AM
It's 12 episodes long
Then I'd be very surprised if it wasn't an open ending or just a "temp ending" looking at all of the manga and novels out. Still I'm sure I'll enjoy it since it's short.
Yeah, that's a bit of a bummer, but I guess if the girl I like doesn't "win" it will make me a bit happier with the ending. But I'm always fearful of those life goes on endings.
Buster Blader 126
03-31-2008, 12:17 AM
Mamiko Noto is voicing a male? :( That's a new one... disappointing, but the show still looks like it could be pretty good.
She's actually done voices for male characters before (Yukinari from Girls Bravo, Shinji from Full Metal Panic!), so it's actually not really "new."
Though I must agree with you in regards to Mamiko not being one of the "horny animal girls." :laugh:
In regards to the actual series, I'm probably going to check this one out. I haven't seen a romantic comedy fansubbed in quite some time, and with no romantic dramas coming out this season except for Da Capo 2 S2 (that I'm aware of at least), that'll free up a couple of slots.
& is it just me, or does anybody else get Inukami! vibes from this show?
Westlo
03-31-2008, 12:19 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if there is still no "winner" in the 11th light novel. Though like with FMP everyone reading knows who will win.
12 eps though... probably 2-3 novels worth of material if they stay faithful. If it's popular I'm guessing we will see a sequel in a years time.
Suwako Moriya
03-31-2008, 09:49 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if there is still no "winner" in the 11th light novel. Though like with FMP everyone reading knows who will win.
Yeah it's probably not a question of "who", but "when" as it were. Still in terms of it being 12 episodes, I guess part of it will indeed depend on what they focus on.
Westlo
04-05-2008, 12:38 PM
*watches OP*
Chizuru is bouncy.
TheGreenMan
04-05-2008, 07:31 PM
Well, I don't know what to say. Cute, definitely a guilty pleasure anime. There seems to be seriousness to come though. Damn, that kiss was really hot (First time I've seen drool kiss in a regular anime). I wonder if the school will survive 12 episodes.
Edit: "First time with a guy." What?
Fudce
04-05-2008, 08:32 PM
Well, I don't know what to say. Cute, definitely a guilty pleasure anime. There seems to be seriousness to come though. Damn, that kiss was really hot (First time I've seen drool kiss in a regular anime). I wonder if the school will survive 12 episodes.
Edit: "First time with a guy." What?
Guilty pleasure? I think this goes beyond that, even with what I'm used to watching. It's what would happen if you put Ken Akamatsu, Yuji Shiozaki and Studio Fantasia in a room, and told them to make a show about a foxgirl.
That said, as a complete death-row-pleasure, it's enjoyable. I can't see it going too deep (well, the storyline, I can see there being plenty of other depth involved) but it will be a ride, that's for sure.
And I want to see more of the red headed identical ponytail twins. I couldn't decide if they have twintails, or a single sided-tail, regardless, they look cute.
Suwako Moriya
04-05-2008, 08:46 PM
I have mixed feelings on the first episode. On the negative side some of the fanservice moments felt a bit forced. On the other hand some of the fanservice moments were kind of nice and there are cute girls in it.
And I want to see more of the red headed identical ponytail twins. I couldn't decide if they have twintails, or a single sided-tail, regardless, they look cute.
And they'd be two very good examples of cute girls. If they were to appear more often, my motivation to watch this would increase. As it stands I'm not sure yet about this. I might give it another episode or two to see what the other girl is like and how things flow.
Suwako Moriya
04-05-2008, 08:56 PM
Oh by the way I just checked the official site linked to earlier in the thread and the character page makes it clear both red haired twins have a single side pony tail each.
TheGreenMan
04-05-2008, 08:58 PM
And I want to see more of the red headed identical ponytail twins. I couldn't decide if they have twintails, or a single sided-tail, regardless, they look cute.
I think they have single tails, with one having it on one side and the other having it on the other side.
Fudce
04-05-2008, 09:49 PM
And I want to see more of the red headed identical ponytail twins. I couldn't decide if they have twintails, or a single sided-tail, regardless, they look cute.
I think they have single tails, with one having it on one side and the other having it on the other side.
I think that they're the same side, at least it looked that way to me!
Suwako Moriya
04-05-2008, 09:55 PM
I think that they're the same side, at least it looked that way to me!
Trust me on this, they're not. In fact go to the character page (http://www.kanokon.com/character.html) and scroll down. The two share the same spot and it alternates between the two. Besides if you consider the scene there's no way the pony tail would be on the same side. A link to the scene (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/HolyAjora/kanokonredhairedtwins.jpg) in question for those curious to see what I mean.
One of them is sitting on the right and thus her right side is showing the other is facing her sitting on the left meaning her left side is showing. If they both had the pony tail on the same side one of them would be showing the pony tail the other way. Simply because both are showing opposite sides of each other.
HitokiriShadow
04-05-2008, 10:08 PM
Hmmm... well, Chizuru is fun though a bit shallow in character. I like the twins and the loli with the apparently bad dude. Class rep-san is annoying, the other two girls are okay. Kouta is tolerable at best but I don't like him much. He's the type of lead that just gets pushed around by everyone else and doesn't really do much.
The fanservice was okay, not obnoxious but not particularly good either. Yes, Chizuru has big boobs and she's shamelessly horny. But only one or two instances were particularly good and the rest were decent but nothing more.
The episode felt like it was trying to cram in all sorts of character introductions and hints at the story and things to come but it didn't do it very well. It also handled the jumps back and forth in time very poorly.
On the whole, it was okay and has some potential but it failed to really grab me. It's not something in danger of being dropped outright, but at this point its hardly a high priority title.
Suwako Moriya
04-05-2008, 10:56 PM
It's not something in danger of being dropped outright, but at this point its hardly a high priority title.
The main reason I'm not dropping is hope both the other girl and hope for more red haired twins, but then again if they turn out to be mere side characters who barely appear...:cry:
HitokiriShadow
04-06-2008, 12:06 AM
It's not something in danger of being dropped outright, but at this point its hardly a high priority title.
The main reason I'm not dropping is hope both the other girl and hope for more red haired twins, but then again if they turn out to be mere side characters who barely appear...:cry:
Yeah, I'm really hoping the twins play a decent sized role. I liked what little I saw of them. And I assume by "other girl" you mean the other main girl that's been mentioned before, the wolf girl? Yeah, I'm hoping she'll be a good character and I at least want to see what she's like.
Suwako Moriya
04-06-2008, 12:08 AM
And I assume by "other girl" you mean the other main girl that's been mentioned before, the wolf girl?
Yeah she's the one I'm talking about. The fox needs improvement, but hopefully the wolf will be nice.
Ashyukun
04-06-2008, 12:50 PM
Aaand we appear to have a near consensus that the moe red-haired twins need to play a large part in the show, which I can definitely get behind. I enjoyed the first episode, though I agree some of the fanservice seemed forced- but with the situations involved, much of it seemed just pretty unavoidable (and I'm not complaining...).
I get a lot of the same vibes from this as from last season's RosaVam... but (probably because I haven't read any of the source material for this unlike R+V) I enjoyed this show's first ep. a lot more. This show has the added curiosity for me of seeing just which of the cast are human and which are Yokai. Some are obvious (the wolf-girl- who I'm looking forward to showing up, though I doubt she'll be able to hold a candle to the awesomeness that was Spice & Wolf's Horo- is a given of course, the brother, and the three that were discussing the situation around the computer), some seem like they're pretty certain (the teacher that was lecturing Chizuri), and a few I'm just extrapolating out due to my own assumptions/experience/hopes- like the twins (because rarely do shows miss the chance to just stack on the moe attributes...). My bets are the class rep and the two other girls in the class who have a modest role are human, in addition to the main lead of course.
I'll definitely be following this for now, even though it necessarily has to go in the 'watch at home and not over lunch at work' pile.
Fudce
04-06-2008, 02:20 PM
I think that they're the same side, at least it looked that way to me!
Trust me on this, they're not. In fact go to the character page (http://www.kanokon.com/character.html) and scroll down. The two share the same spot and it alternates between the two. Besides if you consider the scene there's no way the pony tail would be on the same side. A link to the scene (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/HolyAjora/kanokonredhairedtwins.jpg) in question for those curious to see what I mean.
One of them is sitting on the right and thus her right side is showing the other is facing her sitting on the left meaning her left side is showing. If they both had the pony tail on the same side one of them would be showing the pony tail the other way. Simply because both are showing opposite sides of each other.
You are right, but they also need to check their animators, since they did include a scene (http://www.fudce.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kanokon.jpg) with them having their side-tail on the same side. It might be a running gag that hasn't got running yet.
Suwako Moriya
04-06-2008, 02:29 PM
You are right, but they also need to check their animators, since they did include a scene (http://www.fudce.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kanokon.jpg) with them having their side-tail on the same side. It might be a running gag that hasn't got running yet.
Well perhaps it's possible that it's a running gag, but right now I'm going to consider it an animation mistake of some sort.
Fudce
04-06-2008, 03:08 PM
You are right, but they also need to check their animators, since they did include a scene (http://www.fudce.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kanokon.jpg) with them having their side-tail on the same side. It might be a running gag that hasn't got running yet.
Well perhaps it's possible that it's a running gag, but right now I'm going to consider it an animation mistake of some sort.
It looks that way to me too, but it would have been cool to have twins that weren't the usual "oposite hairstyle" twins.
Suwako Moriya
04-06-2008, 04:15 PM
It looks that way to me too, but it would have been cool to have twins that weren't the usual "oposite hairstyle" twins.
Well I have seen cases where the twins have the same exact hair style almost like in Futakoi or Happy 7.
Nork22
04-06-2008, 06:56 PM
Lets see....
Mamiko Noto playing a shouta, Ayako Kawasumi is the fox girl, and Chiwa Saito is the nosy classmate. Where have I seen this similar ensemble before? Oh yeah, Girls Bravo.
HitokiriShadow
04-06-2008, 11:38 PM
This show has the added curiosity for me of seeing just which of the cast are human and which are Yokai. Some are obvious (the wolf-girl- who I'm looking forward to showing up, though I doubt she'll be able to hold a candle to the awesomeness that was Spice & Wolf's Horo- is a given of course, the brother, and the three that were discussing the situation around the computer), some seem like they're pretty certain (the teacher that was lecturing Chizuri), and a few I'm just extrapolating out due to my own assumptions/experience/hopes- like the twins (because rarely do shows miss the chance to just stack on the moe attributes...). My bets are the class rep and the two other girls in the class who have a modest role are human, in addition to the main lead of course.
Yeah, I have a suspicion the twins are some sort of youkai as well. Or maybe that's just my wishful thinking. I certainly hope they are animal spirits of some sort. I agree that the class rep and the other two girls are probably human. Though I could see one of the "other two girls" (nobody seems to remember their names....) being one for a random surprise to shake things up. But I think that's unlikely.
Suwako Moriya
04-07-2008, 08:25 AM
[Yeah, I have a suspicion the twins are some sort of youkai as well. Or maybe that's just my wishful thinking.
Well if the twins turned out to be youkai then that would give a reason for them to appear more often than if they were just random humans. Plus they'd look even cute with animal ears. Only question is which type of animal would they be?
Ashyukun
04-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Well if the twins turned out to be youkai then that would give a reason for them to appear more often than if they were just random humans. Plus they'd look even cute with animal ears. Only question is which type of animal would they be?
Given their apparently rather timid nature, I'm betting something along the lines of rabbits or rodentia. For the sake of picking something (and because I think it would look cute), I'm going to say chipmunks.
Lets see....
Mamiko Noto playing a shouta, Ayako Kawasumi is the fox girl, and Chiwa Saito is the nosy classmate. Where have I seen this similar ensemble before? Oh yeah, Girls Bravo.
Who'd of thought we would see a show that makes the fanservice in Girls Bravo look tame?
I'll probably watch a bit more to see how it develops, but this level of fanservice is a tad bit creepy. It looks more watchable than To Love-Ru does though. I have a feeling when I check out the first episode of that show from that day on for the rest of my life I'll always be just a little bit dumber. :sdsmiley:
Suwako Moriya
04-07-2008, 11:51 AM
Given their apparently rather timid nature, I'm betting something along the lines of rabbits or rodentia. For the sake of picking something (and because I think it would look cute), I'm going to say chipmunks.
Rabbits or Chimpmunks would be nice. Hmm maybe Squirrels! *Random reference to another show because the two kind of remind of a certain girl*
Fencedude
04-07-2008, 10:01 PM
Oh god, why can't Kouta be a girl? That would elevate the show from being merely faptastic to THE HOTTEST SHOW EVER MADE THAT ISN'T PORN
As it is, Ayako Kawasumi on Mamiko Noto is pretty much aural porn.
Damn.
something
04-08-2008, 05:42 PM
Ouch, only the second new show of the season for me and finding episode 1 in threaded was already confusing. I had to click on four "More replies..." links before I could discover it. Again, more than ever before because of this godawful forum software, I'd like to request that each new episode subthread please be posted as a reply to the first (root) post. Then it's really easy to find. Thanks.
Episode 1:
- I think Chizuru is going to engulf Kouta in her breasts. I also think this is my first time hearing Noto Mamiko in a male role, and it makes be epically sad. Good seiyuu cast so far, but arhg I need more Nono Mamiko roles that consist of more than 5 lines... but not males, damnit.
- I love the twins already.
- Kawasumi Ayako is amazing as Chizuru, and Noto Mamiko is awesome by default, even if this... situation... saddens me. Those two seiyuu making out should leave me erect until about 2015, but... Oh well, kitsune Chizuzu is hot.
- Haha, ok, this show is hilarious. Kouta looks like he's just going to be utterly devoured, in so many ways.
- So we hear not just shota-version Noto Mamiko, but shota-version Kawasumi Ayako. O_O
...good god.
This is going to be an interesting show. I'm very on board.
The Great Bear
04-08-2008, 07:25 PM
I find it interesting that all four reviewers doing the New Season preview at ANN felt the need to lambast this show.
And yet, it's the one show all four of them watched.
I'll be watching what you all have to say for the first few episodes.
I find it interesting that all four reviewers doing the New Season preview at ANN felt the need to lambast this show.
And yet, it's the one show all four of them watched.
I'll be watching what you all have to say for the first few episodes.
While I'll be keeping one eye open till the end of this shows run, it seems thats the "in thing" now to bash fanservicy shows or call all female characters "sluts".
Suwako Moriya
04-08-2008, 08:02 PM
I'll be watching what you all have to say for the first few episodes.
Depends on how far I watch it. I'm still waiting to find out what some of the other characters are like. So far it's one of those mixed shows. Although maybe later they'll better explain the female lead or maybe not.
HitokiriShadow
04-08-2008, 10:38 PM
I find it interesting that all four reviewers doing the New Season preview at ANN felt the need to lambast this show.
And yet, it's the one show all four of them watched.
Because it was one of the first shows available and their orders were to review as many shows as possible. But while their opinions are harsher than my own views, I can't really disagree with them either.
HitokiriShadow
04-08-2008, 10:42 PM
While I'll be keeping one eye open till the end of this shows run, it seems thats the "in thing" now to bash fanservicy shows or call all female characters "sluts".
Their review of To-Love-Ru was actually positive. The thing is, look at Chizuru's character. For basically the entire episode, she was just trying to get Kouta turned on. Except when she's blowing up her brother for interupting. So the characterization (which I don't recall yet seeing stated in such terms) isn't far off in her case. She's incredibly one dimensional so far and that dimension happens to be "get in Kouta's pants."
Nosredna
04-09-2008, 12:09 AM
I just watched episode 1 and I can't say I really enjoyed it too much. I wasn't a big fan of the character designs and some of the shots just looked odd to me. And the main character looked like he was 10. I will give it a couple of episodes to see if I start enjoying it more, but I can't say it was what I was hoping for.
Westlo
04-12-2008, 06:18 AM
Just lmao at the amount of fanservice in episode 2, looks like on the way to school she puts up a barrier and trys to fuck Kouta on the spot and than later on we get an epic catfight in the baths.
Suwako Moriya
04-12-2008, 12:00 PM
Just lmao at the amount of fanservice in episode 2, looks like on the way to school she puts up a barrier and trys to fuck Kouta on the spot and than later on we get an epic catfight in the baths.
*Looks at some of the images* Uh why do I get the feeling Wolf Girl won't be much different from Fox Girl? I also get this nagging feeling any form of plot will only be used for the purpose of a cut-off point. So I fully expect any form of plot not to start until half through episode 10.
TheGreenMan
04-12-2008, 02:20 PM
I have feeling there's a reason they want to **** him hard, like in Maburaho.
Episode 1 spoiler:
Did they really fuck at the end of the first episode?
Fluffy
04-12-2008, 10:40 PM
Heh.
"Slutty fox." - Ezomori Nozomu
TheGreenMan
04-13-2008, 11:47 AM
This show is crap. Yet.I'm.still.watching.it.
This show is crap. Yet.I'm.still.watching.it.
It does have this "train wreck" kind of mentality where I'm keeping an eye on it solely for the fanservice now.
something
04-13-2008, 07:18 PM
Episode 2:
- There's the other character I've seen in various magazine spreads. Ezomori Nozomu, who really like spare ribs...
- Man Kouta screams like a gi--... oh right. "A boy is a key and a girl is a keyhole. Feel free to open my door any time." Oh lawd.
- This show is so shameless. :sd: But that's what makes a guilty pleasure worth watching. Sex in the street!
- Nozomu pounces. Kouta certainly has his pick of two extremes. Wolf vs fox?
- Bath scene! "These are a girl's secret weapon! Erotic flesh!" XD See, if a show is going to rely on fanservice for pretty much its entire appeal, it shouldn't half ass it. Nozomu and Chizuru grappling each other while naked = win.
Yeaah... this show will sink or swim purely on the amount of fanservice it offers. So far it's good enough for me to continue. I enjoyed this episode so that's all that matters.
untoldsorrow
04-13-2008, 07:22 PM
Cute show... thats aall I have to say. Will continue to watch though, liking the girls.
HitokiriShadow
04-13-2008, 09:05 PM
Wolf > Fox.
I love how Nozomu insults Chizuru with a straight face and zero emotion.
I enjoyed this episode a lot more than the previous one. I'm still not fond of Chizuru or Kouta, but it was actually pretty funny and then there's the fanservice.... the bathhouse fight was great. I'll have to see how things go for episode 3, but I think I'll be sticking around for this one.
Suwako Moriya
04-13-2008, 09:16 PM
This show is crap. Yet.I'm.still.watching.it.
Maybe you're hoping the twins will be youkai? No wait that's me. Okay actually I decided to stop watching the series for now, but will probably read up on comments to see if anything actually interesting happens during the course of the series.
Fudce
04-14-2008, 04:43 AM
- Bath scene! "These are a girl's secret weapon! Erotic flesh!" XD See, if a show is going to rely on fanservice for pretty much its entire appeal, it shouldn't half ass it. Nozomu and Chizuru grappling each other while naked = win.
This show most definitly doesn't half ass its fanservice. There are multiple very full asses, and breasts too.
At the moment I'm leaning towards Nozomu... and the twins.
AdrianWerner
04-14-2008, 06:21 AM
Episode 2 was great .I haven't laughed this hard during anime since the first few Zetsubou Sensei episodes :D
To me this does right everything that To Love Ru does wrong. Can hardly believe they're from the same studio.
Oh..and Chizuru > Nozomu easily :)
untoldsorrow
04-14-2008, 07:36 PM
Highly enjoyed episode 2. This is definitely my gulity fan service pleasure of spring. Oh man, wish I was that lucky boy, 2 girls wanting to get inside my pants, lol.
Draneor
04-20-2008, 03:34 PM
Just finished the third episode. And although I did not think it was possible, the show managed to up the fan service another notch. On the other hand, I really enjoyed the humour, especially the parodies of various romantic comedy cliches.
Nozomu's attempt at the "fateful encounter while running late" especially funny. While virtually every anime has at least one "girl who can't cook," the sheer ingenuity of some of the dishes made also had me chuckling. It seems the twins enjoyed it too.
Chizuru is as manipulative and eager as ever. There is now indisputable evidence that Kouta is truly a pervert.
Still though, I'm starting to think that Kanokon may be too perverted even for me, especially the ending scene.^^u Certainly, this show isn't pulling any punches about what it's about. Then again, I did get to hear a character voiced by Kawasumi ask to be spanked... I don't think I can recall any other anime that had a scene like that before, and we're only on episode three. How much farther can they go? Also, why do I feel guilty after watching this? ^^U
Just finished the third episode. And although I did not think it was possible, the show managed to up the fan service another notch. On the other hand, I really enjoyed the humour, especially the parodies of various romantic comedy cliches.
Nozomu's attempt at the "fateful encounter while running late" especially funny. While virtually every anime has at least one "girl who can't cook," the sheer ingenuity of some of the dishes made also had me chuckling. It seems the twins enjoyed it too.
Chizuru is as manipulative and eager as ever. There is now indisputable evidence that Kouta is truly a pervert.
Still though, I'm starting to think that Kanokon may be too perverted even for me, especially the ending scene.^^u Certainly, this show isn't pulling any punches about what it's about. Then again, I did get to hear a character voiced by Kawasumi ask to be spanked... I don't think I can recall any other anime that had a scene like that before, and we're only on episode three. How much farther can they go? Also, why do I feel guilty after watching this? ^^U
Yeah, the manga had the spanking scene as well.
Draneor
04-20-2008, 06:49 PM
Yeah, the manga had the spanking scene as well.
Ah, I only read the first couple chapters, and I don't get Monthly Comic Alive either. Heh. Well, at least we know the novels will be in safe hands at Seven Seas.
Yeah, the manga had the spanking scene as well.
Ah, I only read the first couple chapters, and I don't get Monthly Comic Alive either. Heh. Well, at least we know the novels will be in safe hands at Seven Seas.
It still strikes me as one big cock tease unless something actually happens between the two(or three) of them at the end.
Draneor
04-20-2008, 06:58 PM
It still strikes me as one big cock tease unless something actually happens between the two(or three) of them at the end.
Well, some people interpreted the fade-away at the end of the first episode as them actually having sex. Personally, I figured something interrupted them as usual so they haven't done it yet; I think some comments in the second episode sort of support that line of thinking too. I don't know. I'm not really looking for an actual sex scene, although certainly they could add it in on the DVDs easily. I think a lot of the humour in this show would dissipate if Chizuru's (& Nozomu's) sexual urges were granted. Then again, I came into this show thinking it would be a cute romantic comedy not a quasi-porno.^^U
Also, that's why we have doujinshi.
It still strikes me as one big cock tease unless something actually happens between the two(or three) of them at the end.
Well, some people interpreted the fade-away at the end of the first episode as them actually having sex. Personally, I figured something interrupted them as usual. I don't know. I'm not really looking for an actual sex scene, although certainly they could add it in on the DVDs easily. I think a lot of the humour in this show would dissipate if Chizuru's (& Nozomu's) sexual urges were granted. Then again, I came into this show thinking it would be a cute romantic comedy not a porno.^^U
Also, that's why we have doujinshi.
Like most shows of this nature I'm sure the DVD's will have "altered scenes" and be advertised that way. As for doujin, for something as sexually charged as Kanokon is, there is surprisingly few to none.
Draneor
04-20-2008, 07:04 PM
Like most shows of this nature I'm sure the DVD's will have "altered scenes" and be advertised that way. As for doujin, for something as sexually charged as Kanokon is, there is surprisingly few to none.
Give it time. The next Comiket should give us a few.
On a side note, I had a friend that confused this show with Kon Kon Kokon, which also involves a kitsune. Needless to say, he was very surprised when he actually watched it.
It's been entertaining so far based on shock value alone, but I think this show is bad for anime in general anymore. I mean, they're not even trying to have some kind of plot in this show, and the fanservice is downright creepy because it's so blatant. The whole point of fanservice is to tease and give just enough to keep you anxious for more. This is almost soft-core hentai, and when the DVDs come out with the nudity I'm sure it will possess they might as well officially call it that.
It IS strangely funny to watch, but I have to wonder for how much longer.
AdrianWerner
04-20-2008, 11:34 PM
I adore this show :D Yes, it turned into softcore now, but this made it all even funnier, I honestly don't remember the last time I laughed this much during anime :D
HitokiriShadow
04-20-2008, 11:37 PM
Nozomu for the lulz. Meanwhile, Chizuru is generally just a bitch.
But it was amusing to see the sheer terror in human trio's eyes. And yay for the twins. We also pretty much confirm that they are some sort of spirit creature, probably some sort of rodent.
We also learn what animals the 'bad' guy and girl are (weasel and frog, respectively) and get a somewhat better idea of what they are all about. They don't like Chizuru for some reason and its probably not just because of her personality. But they obviously aren't bad people.
The spanking scene didn't bother me but the frog oil thing... if it was spit or sweat, that would have been fine or even sexy, but judging by the constipated sounds she was making...
Westlo
04-21-2008, 01:45 AM
Like most shows of this nature I'm sure the DVD's will have "altered scenes" and be advertised that way. As for doujin, for something as sexually charged as Kanokon is, there is surprisingly few to none.
They are all doing To Love Ru!
Fudce
04-21-2008, 06:10 PM
How much farther can they go?
That's not the question to ask about this anime... :nosebleed:
Also, why do I feel guilty after watching this? ^^U
Because you have morals?
Seriously though, this anime is pure and unadulterated fanservice. I can't think of another show I've seen that is this... up front... about it.
And was I the only one who found the frog girl really cute? (And the twins, but that's obvious)
Draneor
04-21-2008, 07:06 PM
And was I the only one who found the frog girl really cute? (And the twins, but that's obvious)
No, I found her cute too, but I don't know about that oil bit. ^^UUUUUUUU
HitokiriShadow
04-21-2008, 07:40 PM
And was I the only one who found the frog girl really cute? (And the twins, but that's obvious)
Oh no, she's definitely cute. I like her. It's just that oil thing, uh, well, I wish they had done that part a bit differently.
AdrianWerner
04-21-2008, 11:22 PM
Seriously though, this anime is pure and unadulterated fanservice.
I don't think it's pure fanservice, I mean here all the ecchi scenes are used for humor, not just to show off various body parts
Fudce
04-22-2008, 04:40 AM
Seriously though, this anime is pure and unadulterated fanservice.
I don't think it's pure fanservice, I mean here all the ecchi scenes are used for humor, not just to show off various body parts
ok, it's perverted and unadulterated fanservice... happy?
AdrianWerner
04-22-2008, 07:01 AM
Seriously though, this anime is pure and unadulterated fanservice.
I don't think it's pure fanservice, I mean here all the ecchi scenes are used for humor, not just to show off various body parts
ok, it's perverted and unadulterated fanservice... happy?
No :) I don't think it's really a pure fanservice when it serves some purpose other than visual stimulation :) So it's perverted, humorous and unadulterated fanservice :D
TheGreenMan
04-23-2008, 07:37 AM
Seriously though, this anime is pure and unadulterated fanservice.
I don't think it's pure fanservice, I mean here all the ecchi scenes are used for humor, not just to show off various body parts
ok, it's perverted and unadulterated fanservice... happy?
No :) I don't think it's really a pure fanservice when it serves some purpose other than visual stimulation :) So it's perverted, humorous and unadulterated fanservice :D
Wow oh wow. I can't believe they did all that in the episode. And I thought Strawberry Panic pushed the envelope. Now I have to watch the rest of the show to see how far they push it. I say a threesome by the show's end.
Westlo
04-23-2008, 08:08 AM
Wow oh wow. I can't believe they did all that in the episode. And I thought Strawberry Panic pushed the envelope. Now I have to watch the rest of the show to see how far they push it. I say a threesome by the show's end.
Threesome by episode 6, full blown orgy by the end.
Fudce
04-23-2008, 08:47 AM
Wow oh wow. I can't believe they did all that in the episode. And I thought Strawberry Panic pushed the envelope. Now I have to watch the rest of the show to see how far they push it. I say a threesome by the show's end.
Threesome by episode 6, full blown orgy by the end.
Don't forget the full fledged yuri twincest scene in episode 5...
William K
04-26-2008, 06:35 AM
Seriously though, this anime is pure and unadulterated fanservice.
I don't think it's pure fanservice, I mean here all the ecchi scenes are used for humor, not just to show off various body parts
The ED Single cover IS fanservice though... :)
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4384/kk01za3.jpg
untoldsorrow
04-27-2008, 08:38 PM
Seriously though, this anime is pure and unadulterated fanservice.
I don't think it's pure fanservice, I mean here all the ecchi scenes are used for humor, not just to show off various body parts
The ED Single cover IS fanservice though... :)
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4384/kk01za3.jpg
::nosebleeds::
something
05-03-2008, 01:12 AM
Why am I following up HOLY SHIT EPIC CHIKO with this? ...Well, whatever :sd:
Episode 3:
- Haha, oh wow, this actually started out really well. The cooking bit with Chizuru was nice, but Nozomu is the one really cracking me up. Toast FTW. Iyaaaaan~
- I definitely think I prefer Nozomu, but I so like both. Gotta feel bad for Chizuru's brother.. also, NEEDS MORE OF THE TWINS! Who apparently have no sense of taste.
- Frog girl! So cute!! Maybe she's my new favorite.
- ...she...is she peeing special sauce Chizuru is going to rub on Kouta? Haha what the hell. ...Hah, wow, that was amusing
- Ahaha, Kouta you little perv. He reveals his inner desires... "I'll spank you."
o_O Wow, I don't know I've ever seen an episode of anime end with erotic panties-down spanking. That's actually sort of impressive.
Yeah, I don't care if there's no substance to this show, I quite like it. It's shameless fanservice done pretty much right.
something
05-03-2008, 01:13 AM
Episode 4:
- And almost immediately, more Kouta rape. And I don't think we've seen kitsune Chizuru since episode 1, have we?
- In a quest to find a love potion to make Kouta hers, Chizuru finds and dons a magical bunnygirl costume. Only problem is, she can't take it off, and is forced to attend classes like this. And wow, even Chizuru feels shame now.
- She makes it back to Kouta's dorm but Nozomu is hiding in the closet, and Akane, Yuuki, Kiriko, and Tayura all come crashing down from the ceiling. They won't leave Chizuru alone with Kouta if they can help it.
- And I love Akane (Saito Chiwa)'s "fuketsu desu". it's not "kinshi!" but it's in the same category. Really, while I do like the three leads, the best thing about Kanokon is the rest of the class. Akane, Yuuko, Kiriko, and the twins are completely awesome. And, NEEDS MORE FROG GIRL.
- Haha oh god. The bunnysuit saps your life force. Chizuru ends up in the nurses office, and when Akane tries to cut off the suit, suddenly she gets transformed into a nurse. Then she is forced onto a desk by some power and made to spread her legs o_O
- The power sends Chizuru floating around, and Yuuki and Kiriko get transformed into a policewoman costume and YAY SIDEBOOB MIKO respectively.
After transforming half the school (and many of them winding up naked), they bypass the clothes by having Chizuru possess Kouta. Then they spirit bomb the dress and on we go.
Maid Nozomu = win. But I am HORRIBLY disappointed we didn't get to see the twins in anything.
HitokiriShadow
05-03-2008, 02:37 AM
While I liked maid Nozomu, Nozomu in a closet, and Forced-Indecency Akane, as a whole the episode was mediocre and a step down from the previous two episodes.
HitokiriShadow
05-10-2008, 01:33 AM
Worst episode of the series so far. Most of the episode was just boring, as it required me to a damn about Chizuru and the relationship. The one second of the twins eating was the highlight of the episode. Sadly, the fight was a close second. Which is really sad, as it was a rather shitty fight. I mean Zero no Tsukaima levels of bad. But they even beat out ZnT by adding laughable BGM music to go with the underwhelming super energy blast.
something
05-17-2008, 09:55 PM
Episode 5:
- A bracelet that causes pain if you get aroused. Oh god, Kouta is doomed.
- o_O Nozomu's brother plays rough. He wants Chizuru (and they seem to have history) and is willing to put Kouta in danger to blackmail her into it. Now Chizuru can't seduce Kouta =P
- Twins! ...for a few seconds. Give me more of them, damnit!
- Heh, Chizuru is falling apart. Not being able to rape Kouta sucks the life out of her. "Hey why don't you try eating something?" "I'll eat if it tastes like Kouta." XD
- Dun dun dunnnnn, draaama! Or something like it. Here's hoping the show doesn't succumb to the delusion that anyone gives a shit about what they'll try to pass off as "plot".
- So Tayura asks weasel guy and frog girl for help. I can see why the former, but what the hell is frog girl going to do? :sd:
- Fighting, Saku beats the shit out of them, etc. Somehow, Chizuru getting beat up results in her being completely naked except her panties :sd: I want to see Nozomu transform and beat her brother's ass.
- Uh, Saku gave up pretty easily there. After pummeling everyone mercilessly, he withdrawals with a smile after one hit from Koutazuru. :sd:
- And so it was all a setup, a job Saku had been asked to do to confirm if the Koutazuru power was for real. Looks like we have two new characters coming into the mix.
Yeah it was a mediocre episode but not all that terrible. I just want more twins, Akane, Yuuko, Kiriko, Nozomu and frog girl. The secondary cast is definitely superior in this series.
something
05-17-2008, 09:56 PM
Episode 6:
- Chizuru looks good in a kimono. Of course, it's time for the first Kouta Rape of the new year.
- And Tayura is trying to work up the courage to ask Akane out.
- Frog girl, looooooove <3
- So, Chizuru is actually a good cook. When she had him taste it, I assumed it would be the old "terrible cook" routine. This episode as a whole is really calm... well as calm as this show can get. Also, naked Nozomu.
- Chizuru brings out a dice game, and says if you don't do what it tells you on the spot you land on, demons will come for you :sd:
- "...Ah. I didn't wear a school swimsuit." Bwahahhhah. Nozomu is so much win.
- Nozomu is completely raping something with he mouth.
- Oh, Mio was the frog girl's name. GIVE ME MORE MIO! She's clearly getting paired up with weasel boy though, and he's astoundingly boring.
- Akane gets drunk...
- TWINS! Speaking, not something they do much. They're running a stall at the shrine.
- Hah, they're awesome. Want mooooooore.
That didn't quite go anywhere, but that's fine. I liked it better than 5. Chizuru and Kouta are still pretty hit or miss though. Most of the characters around them really carry the show.
loplop
05-21-2008, 02:25 PM
From heiseidemocracy.com . . . .
Kanokon pulled from free online broadcast
Moon Phase is reporting tonight that following episode seven, TV anime Kanokon will cease free distribution via online broadcasters GyaO and BIGLOBE. The reason given for the move is ethical regulations, which appear to have kicked in following the repeated depiction of racy visuals such as bare breasts, implied handjobs, flashes of nipple exposure, and etc. Apparently a particularly memorable scene occurs in episode eight that the free broadcasters werent willing to test against government regulation, so from now on online viewing options will be restricted to paid only. Note that this currently does not affect any of the shows terrestrial broadcast networks; well keep an eye out for any further developments on this story or related censorship issues that may arise.
What the hell happens in episode 8?!?!?!?
untoldsorrow
05-21-2008, 07:36 PM
From heiseidemocracy.com . . . .
Kanokon pulled from free online broadcast
Moon Phase is reporting tonight that following episode seven, TV anime Kanokon will cease free distribution via online broadcasters GyaO and BIGLOBE. The reason given for the move is ethical regulations, which appear to have kicked in following the repeated depiction of racy visuals such as bare breasts, implied handjobs, flashes of nipple exposure, and etc. Apparently a particularly memorable scene occurs in episode eight that the free broadcasters werent willing to test against government regulation, so from now on online viewing options will be restricted to paid only. Note that this currently does not affect any of the shows terrestrial broadcast networks; well keep an eye out for any further developments on this story or related censorship issues that may arise.
What the hell happens in episode 8?!?!?!?
I'll say, Episode 7 was crazy enough but loved every moment of it, lol. Can't wait for episode 8.
Westlo
05-21-2008, 07:39 PM
Skipping straight from episode 2 to 8.
From heiseidemocracy.com . . . .
Kanokon pulled from free online broadcast
Moon Phase is reporting tonight that following episode seven, TV anime Kanokon will cease free distribution via online broadcasters GyaO and BIGLOBE. The reason given for the move is ethical regulations, which appear to have kicked in following the repeated depiction of racy visuals such as bare breasts, implied handjobs, flashes of nipple exposure, and etc. Apparently a particularly memorable scene occurs in episode eight that the free broadcasters werent willing to test against government regulation, so from now on online viewing options will be restricted to paid only. Note that this currently does not affect any of the shows terrestrial broadcast networks; well keep an eye out for any further developments on this story or related censorship issues that may arise.What the hell happens in episode 8?!?!?!?
If they sat through seven episodes so far, especially with episode seven, I can't imagine what it would be. I'm both aroused and confused ;)
gnikdrazil
05-21-2008, 10:19 PM
From heiseidemocracy.com . . . .
Kanokon pulled from free online broadcast
Moon Phase is reporting tonight that following episode seven, TV anime Kanokon will cease free distribution via online broadcasters GyaO and BIGLOBE. The reason given for the move is ethical regulations, which appear to have kicked in following the repeated depiction of racy visuals such as bare breasts, implied handjobs, flashes of nipple exposure, and etc. Apparently a particularly memorable scene occurs in episode eight that the free broadcasters werent willing to test against government regulation, so from now on online viewing options will be restricted to paid only. Note that this currently does not affect any of the shows terrestrial broadcast networks; well keep an eye out for any further developments on this story or related censorship issues that may arise.
What the hell happens in episode 8?!?!?!?
By looking an anime blog (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2008/05/17/kanokon-07/) (NSFW), it looks like they let the fanservice fly free.
pathos
05-22-2008, 12:04 PM
From heiseidemocracy.com . . . .
Kanokon pulled from free online broadcast
Moon Phase is reporting tonight that following episode seven, TV anime Kanokon will cease free distribution via online broadcasters GyaO and BIGLOBE. The reason given for the move is ethical regulations, which appear to have kicked in following the repeated depiction of racy visuals such as bare breasts, implied handjobs, flashes of nipple exposure, and etc. Apparently a particularly memorable scene occurs in episode eight that the free broadcasters werent willing to test against government regulation, so from now on online viewing options will be restricted to paid only. Note that this currently does not affect any of the shows terrestrial broadcast networks; well keep an eye out for any further developments on this story or related censorship issues that may arise.
What the hell happens in episode 8?!?!?!?
By looking an anime blog (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2008/05/17/kanokon-07/) (NSFW), it looks like they let the fanservice fly free.
That was 7 though. If 8 tops that, then maybe they have a point :P
untoldsorrow
05-22-2008, 08:27 PM
From heiseidemocracy.com . . . .
Kanokon pulled from free online broadcast
Moon Phase is reporting tonight that following episode seven, TV anime Kanokon will cease free distribution via online broadcasters GyaO and BIGLOBE. The reason given for the move is ethical regulations, which appear to have kicked in following the repeated depiction of racy visuals such as bare breasts, implied handjobs, flashes of nipple exposure, and etc. Apparently a particularly memorable scene occurs in episode eight that the free broadcasters werent willing to test against government regulation, so from now on online viewing options will be restricted to paid only. Note that this currently does not affect any of the shows terrestrial broadcast networks; well keep an eye out for any further developments on this story or related censorship issues that may arise.
What the hell happens in episode 8?!?!?!?
By looking an anime blog (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2008/05/17/kanokon-07/) (NSFW), it looks like they let the fanservice fly free.
That was 7 though. If 8 tops that, then maybe they have a point :P
Yup, that was 7. How they managed to top that is insane. Need 8 now.
vtr9kvictor
05-25-2008, 06:02 AM
From heiseidemocracy.com . . . .
Kanokon pulled from free online broadcast
Moon Phase is reporting tonight that following episode seven, TV anime Kanokon will cease free distribution via online broadcasters GyaO and BIGLOBE. The reason given for the move is “ethical regulations”, which appear to have kicked in following the repeated depiction of racy visuals such as bare breasts, implied handjobs, flashes of nipple exposure, and etc. Apparently a particularly memorable scene occurs in episode eight that the free broadcasters weren’t willing to test against government regulation, so from now on online viewing options will be restricted to paid only. Note that this currently does not affect any of the show’s terrestrial broadcast networks; we’ll keep an eye out for any further developments on this story or related censorship issues that may arise.
What the hell happens in episode 8?!?!?!?
By looking an anime blog (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2008/05/17/kanokon-07/) (NSFW), it looks like they let the fanservice fly free.
That was 7 though. If 8 tops that, then maybe they have a point :P
Yup, that was 7. How they managed to top that is insane. Need 8 now.
Well I checked out episode 8, even though it was raw, just to see what the big deal was. And I have to say, it wasn't that big. Certainly nothing to compare to the spanking orgasm in episode 3. At least, not in my opinion, your mileage may vary. Chizuru, Nozomu, and Chizuru's Mom all spend a LENGTHY time nude in the episode and in the cases of all except Nozomu there is a lot of bouncing going on. But I actually thought it was a fairly tame episode, of course that might change when I know what it was they were saying. You know, I really want this series to come to the US. I want some dvds. Have to start looking for art books or figures or someshit to buy.
OH!!! Next Episode: Nanao Twins: NINJAS!!!!
loplop
05-29-2008, 11:23 AM
From something I saw this morning, the concern was not just with episode 8, but with the last part of the series. Raws should be out early Saturday morning (EDT) for episode 9, so it will be interesting to see what is in store for the last four episodes.
Butter
05-30-2008, 12:41 PM
Most of the interactions between Chizuru's mom and Kouta could probobly be considered pedophilic. I doubt that is a topic people want to dance around. I doesn't bother me, but I can see it bothering others. Although, Chizuru is supposed to be older than 400, so it could all be considered pedophilia.
Most of the interactions between Chizuru's mom and Kouta could probobly be considered pedophilic. I doubt that is a topic people want to dance around. I doesn't bother me, but I can see it bothering others. Although, Chizuru is supposed to be older than 400, so it could all be considered pedophilia.
Straight Shota eh.. er is wrong I tell you :keroro:
Rhodes
05-30-2008, 04:51 PM
Hardly shouta...
Kouta is in HS, which would mean he is 16 years old.
Well past the age of consent in JP.
But I think it was mentioned in the series that Chizuru is 400 years old already...
Talk about a cradle robber.
vtr9kvictor
06-03-2008, 11:41 PM
Most of the interactions between Chizuru's mom and Kouta could probobly be considered pedophilic. I doubt that is a topic people want to dance around. I doesn't bother me, but I can see it bothering others. Although, Chizuru is supposed to be older than 400, so it could all be considered pedophilia.
Kouta is passed the age of censent so its not pedophilia (in Japan). Also, Chizuru's Mom was clearly just teasing him.
Episode 9. Wow. Just wow.
Ingraman
06-04-2008, 03:47 AM
Episode 9. Wow. Just wow.
That's about right. Let him eat "cake"! Well, they've got a few episodes left to see how far they can push their limits. It was so over-the-top that I couldn't help but hide my eyes or look elsewhere in a "I can't believe they're doing this" fashion.
Heh... I love hiding text like this. ^_^;
If it weren't for the two leading seiyuu, I don't think that I'd be watching this series. I'd love to see some video of their recording sessions...
Ah, when you think theres no other boundaries to push, they give you ass licking.
Ingraman
06-04-2008, 06:26 PM
Ah, when you think theres no other boundaries to push, they give you ass licking.
You don't think that the seiyuu for the two main characters act out <whack!> ...
I'll kill that line of thought right there. ^_^;;;;;;;;;;;;
Ah, when you think theres no other boundaries to push, they give you ass licking.
You don't think that the seiyuu for the two main characters act out <whack!> ...
I'll kill that line of thought right there. ^_^;;;;;;;;;;;;
Well they do record in groups :sdsmiley:. I can imagine the staff is starting to have fun with this now, thinking of ways to top themselves without making it a full blown hentai.
Butter
06-04-2008, 07:56 PM
Well they do record in groups :sdsmiley:. I can imagine the staff is starting to have fun with this now, thinking of ways to top themselves without making it a full blown hentai.
With this episode, they have done the foreplay. Now, onto the sex!
Fudce
06-04-2008, 08:13 PM
Well they do record in groups :sdsmiley:. I can imagine the staff is starting to have fun with this now, thinking of ways to top themselves without making it a full blown hentai.
I get the feeling that "full blown hentai" is a poor choice of words.
Roujin0308
06-06-2008, 12:12 AM
Ah, when you think theres no other boundaries to push, they give you ass licking.
hole or cheek?
Ah, when you think theres no other boundaries to push, they give you ass licking.
hole or cheek?
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2008/06/01/kanokon-09/
vtr9kvictor
06-06-2008, 05:32 AM
Ah, when you think theres no other boundaries to push, they give you ass licking.
hole or cheek?
Actually, it was more like that spot where the crevice of your cheeks come together, the base of the tailbone. One could even possibly stretch to say it was "the small of her back". It'd be a stretch though.
untoldsorrow
06-07-2008, 07:40 AM
Wow, I need to catch up from episode 7. Sunds quite distrubing yet funny.
Demon of the Desert
06-07-2008, 08:39 AM
I'm up to episode 5 of this show (been watching it on Veoh), and I agree that the racy material goes over the top, not that its a bad thing, imho. Besides, Chizuru is one of the craziest anime heroines I've seen.
loplop
06-15-2008, 03:21 PM
Episode 11 . . . I had to take a major LOL at epiosde 11. I wasn't expecting the band-aid bathing suit from the loli-wolf . . . .
Episode 11 . . . I had to take a major LOL at epiosde 11. I wasn't expecting the band-aid bathing suit from the loli-wolf . . . .
Taking a look at Random's site, more fanservice abound. I was more interested in how they're suddenly trying to get serious character wise leading into the last episode, but we'll see
jlazar
06-15-2008, 10:21 PM
Episode 11 . . . I had to take a major LOL at epiosde 11. I wasn't expecting the band-aid bathing suit from the loli-wolf . . . .
I just wish they'd have let her wear it for the rest of the show. :( :blush: :nosebleed:
:catgirl:
Fencedude
06-16-2008, 12:25 AM
Actually, it was more like that spot where the crevice of your cheeks come together, the base of the tailbone. One could even possibly stretch to say it was "the small of her back". It'd be a stretch though.
It was her tailbone. Hell, Nozomu even says that "this is her tail".
Also, IT IS DELICIOUS CAKE.
YOU MUST LICK IT
something
06-21-2008, 10:28 PM
Episode 7:
- ...Oh wow, Chizuru. That's an interesting outfit, or lack thereof. Not a bad way to start an episode. Also, new character.
- They really did want to make a hentai instead. Her boobs just have heart shaped stickers over the nipples, but beside that they aren't trying to hide it at all. Why didn't they just get on a station that allowed that? Heh.
- The new girl is Yukihana, sent by Chizuru's mother to investigate the rumors about Chizuru being obsessed with a human. Chizuru isn't happy to see her.
- "You can't get aroused by normal women anymore." XD Oh god why are the secondary characters so much more awesome?
- ::looks:: Wait, they make a big deal out of recognizing Yukihana from her fishnets, but she's not wearing fishnets at all, it's drawn as solid cloth :sd:
- Haha, more of Mio's "oils". So Yukihana "tests" Chizuru and Kouta's bond by burying the school in a blizzard. Then she passes the time making snowmen >_>
- Damn, again the secondary characters rule. Twins, Akane, Yuuki, Kiriko = SUPERIOR! They're getting some good scenes this episode.
- "What's stiff even when it's not frozen?" XD
That was an interesting episode :sd:
something
06-21-2008, 10:29 PM
Episode 8:
- So at the end of 7, Yukihana left after confirming Chizuru and Kouta's bond, telling Chizuru to bring Kouta to meet Chizuru's mother. Turns out it's an onsen, and everyone else comes along too, except the twins. Onsen episode in this show ought to be awesome.
- Looks like we'll meet two other characters from the OP we haven't seen yet.
- Also, Chizuru's mom is niiiiiiiiiiiice. I was actually wondering to myself why we've seen blond kitsune Chizuru so infrequently, but here we get not just that, but nine-tails Chizuru's mom.
- Nice as that is though, we better get some Akane, Kiriko and Yuuki too.
- Bastards. BASTARDS! So Chizuru's mom gets all the humans drunk on love potion. Yuuki and Kiriko stare at each other, blushing, talking about how cute the other is. Yuuki says "Shall we do it?" and then... they just feed each other food. DONT TEASE LIKE THAT!
- Akane falls in love too... with the booze.
- Chizuru gets all emo because Kouta wants to be with Nozomu. She KNOWS it's just the love potion, so why all the angst? Yeesh. This time could be spent on much more important things, like Yuuki and Kiriko doing each other. Damnit.
- Oh god all this Chizuru melodrama is one big "WHO GIVES A SHIT?" as far as I'm concerned.
- Gah, the night ends with no more from the secondary cast. Damnit, HUGE wasted potential.
Oh, and at some point the younger girl of the new pair seemed to indicate... she's Kouta's little sister? I dunno.
something
06-21-2008, 10:30 PM
Episode 9:
- More Kouta rape, but the two new characters from last time look like they're about to step into the show for real.
- And yeah, she definitely calls him her big brother. Her name is Minori (no name on her partner yet).
- Twins! Their names are Nanao Ren and Nanao Ai (did we get that before?), and they're ninja, and they attack with chains and they're AWESOME. But they also fail a lot.
- Minori's partner is her bodyguard Nue. And I guess she doesn't really mean "brother" by blood because she calls Ren and Ai her big sisters too. She's contracting the twins to take out Chizuru.
- And try they do, though not successfully. They switch to an indirect approach with some sort of drug.
- Haha, the twins thought the drug would seal her powers. Instead they made her breasts vanish.
- :sd: This is awkward. Heh, lots of angst and drama over disappearing boobs. Chizuru wants to hang herself.
- So the boob recovery plan begins. Even Tayura and Nozomu are serious about helping Chizuru.
- AHAHA. "If you don't have any bread, then eat cake."
- Wow. Just... wow. I don't even know where to begin with this "cake" scene. Just... WOW. Best part: "Don't you feel tingly down there?" WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.
Oh and Minori is planning to level the school and take Kouta away.
Anyway, adorable binbou ninja twins, L-O-V-E!
something
06-21-2008, 10:31 PM
Episode 10:
- Boob Crusader Kouta!
- The twins aren't very good with explosives but damn am I glad to be getting so much of them <3
- Man I know it's just her shtick, but that was pretty damn bitchy not to thank Tayura, even as part of a joke.
- The twins begin to doubt Minori. Is Chizuru really an evil demon? They see her doing her best to get her breasts back, and start to feel bad.
- Moreso when she invites them along to a meal and says it's her treat. The poor twins haven't seen much more than bread crusts in years.
- They go back and ask to be excused from the mission. Minori has Nue beat the crap out of them. Then she launches her assault at the school, with a legion of youkai. Seems there's some number more spirits at the school than we've met so far, but Nue wrecks them all.
- Hahah, Kouta and Chizuru get attacked, and as they get all emotional and hug and stuff, Nue approaches from behind. Except for about 10 seconds she's animated just walking in place, not advancing one bit. :sd:
- Lol, then Kouta and Chizuru fusion (5 tailed Kouta kitsune this time), Nue gets smacked around, and then one blast of energy wipes out all the youkai and Minori and Nue withdraw. Minori comments that Kouta has "awakened", so he's obviously a spirit of some sort too.
- And within about a minute, Chizuru is all "Enough of that plot stuff, GET IN MAH CLEAVAGE!"
So I guess the next two eps will see more Minori. I mean, they wouldn't just leave that hanging... right? :sd:
something
06-21-2008, 10:32 PM
Episode 11:
- Off to a private always-summer beach. Thankfully, Akane, Yuuki and Kiriko also come along.
- Underwear! Then swimsuits! Yay. Nozomu, however... well I'd already seen fanart, but hahaha.
- Akane's bikini is nice (love the ruffly ones). Chizuru's as well. Yuuki's is the expected "I'm sorta a tomboy" swimsuit but it looks alright, and Kiriko pulls onepiece duty but it's not bad.
- Haha, and who has a beachside store set up but Chizuru's mom. She's looking good, but I actually like the look way more on Yukihana <3
- The usual ecchi beach scenes follow (mostly involving suntan lotion) and all that.
- Tayura's big break? Maybe. Akane is buffeted around by waves and unable to swim back to shore, but Tayura rushes out without hesitation and saves her. They hit things off a little, but odds ate 5 to 1 in favor of him getting slapped and nothing really happening by the end.
- Hahaha, Nozomu chasing everyone around with the sparklercrackerthingie XD
And then, when Chizuru finally gets Kouta alone, she asks him straight up how he feels about her.
I predict the last episode will be KoutaraepOVERDRIVE. I also think I'll be remarkably unsurprised if they don't do a damn thing with Minori :sd:
Just something interesting in general, some screenshots from the Kanokon DVD's. Of course they're very NSFW, but some will be happy that they added nipples :P
http://www.earlbox.sakura.ne.jp/(scroll down past the KnK stuff).
untoldsorrow
06-25-2008, 08:15 AM
I finished watching the series. It was a fun ride. There were alot of classic lines, like "If don't have any bread, then eat cake." This show definitely took things over the edge and border lining it for TV ratings. I would like a second season to explain the "sister" and just more of Chizuru's mom!
Its also quite sad how they made the twins, poor ninjas, sooo sad... Funny how they started to call Chizuru "mom" at the end. ALso great to know they added something this type of show needed, NIPPLES!! to the DVDs.
Roujin0308
06-28-2008, 03:41 PM
Just something interesting in general, some screenshots from the Kanokon DVD's. Of course they're very NSFW, but some will be happy that they added nipples :P
I don't know what was shown during "broadcast", but the only nipples I saw "in episode" on DVD v1 were Nozomu's in eps. 2 during a bathing scene (middle pic in 1rst group at the Earlbox link). The 2nd and 3rd groups of images are from two short extras on the disc.
Demon of the Desert
06-29-2008, 04:50 PM
Having watched Kanokon episodes on Veoh, there was one episode where Chizuru's nipples got covered with heart shaped stickers, but most of the time they don't show you the naughty parts, unlike the current season of "Ikki Tousen".
something
07-03-2008, 11:45 PM
And another show down!
Episode 12:
- Heh, so Chizuru is trying to get Kouta to make his decision once and for all - how does he really feel about he?
- Twin panties. Funky hair. And Akane agrees to go on a date with Tayura.
- Chizuru thinks Kouta is hesitant to give her an answer because he's playing hard to get. So she tries to meet with him outside the school grounds, but...
- "Mama. Is it okay if we call you mama?" BEST SCENE OF THE SHOW! Oh god I love the twins. I also liked the "...WUT" face Chizuru had. Bwahahahaa.
- Heh, Kouta practices how to confess to Chizuru. "Hazukashii~~"
- What the hell is Tayura doing? Heh, poor Akane.
- And halfway through the last episode it occurs to Chizuru, in listing to Kiriko, Akane and Yuuki's conversation, that maybe not being so persistent and aggressive is a good idea. :sd:
- She tries it and Kouta doesn't know how to react. It's like he's thinking "What? I'm not being raped?" He realizes it's not so bad at all though.
- Except Chizuru is confused when it doesn't result in an answer immediately and the next day goes back to rape. But this time Kouta actually says no. And not just "No-but let me burrow in your cleavage more first."
- Unfortunately he misses his chance to say what he wants to say... again. Chizuru finally runs away.
But in the end, he realizes what he needs to do, and he does it on the bridge in the middle of a sunshower. And, heck, it's a pretty darn nicely done scene! Cute and sweet. The ED plays over a few scenes of the rest of the cast, and then it's Kouta and Chizuru alone. Nozomu comes in and acknowledges Chizuru as Kouta's lover. But...
"I know. You're his lover. And so I'm his mistress." And... Chizuru is fine with that. Bwahaha, canon threesome!
Ah, what to say about this show overall? Oh it wasn't really all that good, but I stayed entertained. The fanservice was often overdone, but it had moments of brilliance (or at least WTFness) as well - Delicious cake. You must lick it.. The plot was nonexistent, the final "villain" really served no purpose and came to no closure, and the leads annoyed me more often than not. On the other hand, they did have some good moments, Nozomu was fun, and the side cast was awesome. Twins, Kiriko, Yuuki, Akane, hell yes.
Nothing I'll ever rewatch, but I don't regret the time I spent on it. And that's good enough for fluff.
pianocello
07-23-2008, 02:11 AM
Considering how shameless this anime was, it was a bit less satisfying than it should be. Akane is one of the most sickening characters I've seen and she is a waste of animation cells. Kouta makes me want to punch him with his wimpy indecisiveness. He ruined the last episode.
The only thing that saved the show were the "shocking" moments that made me wonder how this was shown on TV. I have a sudden craving now to eat cake.....:sdsmiley:
something
07-23-2008, 05:13 AM
Akane is one of the most sickening characters I've seen and she is a waste of animation cells.
Wow, what? She's a pretty typical strict iinchou character, but with Saito Chiwa love. How she could "sicken" someone I can't comprehend, let alone be "one of the most sickening", even if it's you saying it (and I expect weird things from your posts =P).
Akane is LOVE. Unless you just utterly utterly loathe tsundere, what could she have done to bother you so much? Hell she didn't get anywhere near enough screentime to make anyone feel so strongly, I'd think.
Fencedude
07-23-2008, 05:33 AM
Akane is one of the most sickening characters I've seen and she is a waste of animation cells.
Wow, what? She's a pretty typical strict iinchou character, but with Saito Chiwa love. How she could "sicken" someone I can't comprehend, let alone be "one of the most sickening", even if it's you saying it (and I expect weird things from your posts =P).
Akane is LOVE. Unless you just utterly utterly loathe tsundere, what could she have done to bother you so much? Hell she didn't get anywhere near enough screentime to make anyone feel so strongly, I'd think.
Akane always struck me as the type who objected so strongly because she wasn't getting any.
She's probably an absolute demon in the sack.
something
07-23-2008, 05:51 AM
Akane always struck me as the type who objected so strongly because she wasn't getting any.
She's probably an absolute demon in the sack.
Heh, yeah. Akane didn't grab me at first, and looking back I didn't mention her until episode 4. But then she wasn't doing much early on. As she got more screentime (still not nearly enough) I came to like her more and more, until by the end where she was one of my favorites.
Actually... who the heck is my favorite in this show? Probably the twins. Then maybe Kiriko and Yuuki who were criminally underused, and basically tied with Akane. All the leads go well behind them.
untoldsorrow
07-23-2008, 08:02 PM
The brother was actually good too. I still don't know why people like the twins sooo much when they were shown the least but I can't blame you guys, I love them too.
pianocello
07-23-2008, 10:52 PM
Akane is one of the most sickening characters I've seen and she is a waste of animation cells.
Wow, what? She's a pretty typical strict iinchou character, but with Saito Chiwa love. How she could "sicken" someone I can't comprehend, let alone be "one of the most sickening", even if it's you saying it (and I expect weird things from your posts =P).
Akane is LOVE. Unless you just utterly utterly loathe tsundere, what could she have done to bother you so much? Hell she didn't get anywhere near enough screentime to make anyone feel so strongly, I'd think.
Akane has no likable qualities about her. With well-characterized tsundere, we usually get a moment that explains why they are the way that they are and they usually change completely. By the end of the series, she was still a hateful b*tch and deserves to burn in hell.
Fencedude
07-23-2008, 11:29 PM
Akane has no likable qualities about her. With well-characterized tsundere, we usually get a moment that explains why they are the way that they are and they usually change completely. By the end of the series, she was still a hateful b*tch and deserves to burn in hell.
I think you expected to much from the show.
Magewolf
07-27-2008, 03:26 PM
Why are they making amateur porn tapes at school? I just do not understand this show. I watched all of it but I do not know why most of it happens.There is no explanation for the spirits at school or really anything else either. And why would you make every other character in the show more likable then the 2 leads.So there are a lot of things that I do not understand about this show but I really do not understand why they are making amateur porn tapes as an extra on the DVD.
jlazar
07-27-2008, 03:44 PM
Why are they making amateur porn tapes at school? I just do not understand this show. I watched all of it but I do not know why most of it happens.There is no explanation for the spirits at school or really anything else either. And why would you make every other character in the show more likable then the 2 leads.So there are a lot of things that I do not understand about this show but I really do not understand why they are making amateur porn tapes as an extra on the DVD.
You're reading too much into it (or trying to). It's just an extra. Don't try to make it part of the plot.
Sit back and enjoy the porn. :catgirl:
Fudce
07-27-2008, 04:13 PM
Why are they making amateur porn tapes at school?
It's Kanokon. They don't need a reason.
something
07-27-2008, 05:39 PM
I watched all of it but I do not know why most of it happens.
...Because cake is delicious?
Look any deeper and you've missed the point. Well, not that the show is even supposed to have much of a point.
Fudce
07-27-2008, 05:40 PM
I watched all of it but I do not know why most of it happens.
...Because cake is delicious?
Look any deeper and you've missed the point.
Hmm, "look deeper".. sounds like a euphemism they might use in Kanokon Season 2.
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