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Quarkboy
05-19-2008, 03:03 AM
So in two recent big-title shows, Gurren Lagann and Macross F, a main female character has interestingly colored hair:
Nia's hair is yellow with blue highlights/shadows, etc... or other people have said it's blue with yellow highlights... In any case it's multicolored and ambiguous.
In Macross F, Sheryl's hair is somewhere between blond and pink, and seems to be constantly changing (maybe it's fiberoptic hair?).

Considering these are two of the biggest female characters out there, lately, could we consider this a trend? I can't think of any other examples of ambiguously colored hair in anime... are there any others?

Fencedude
05-19-2008, 03:11 AM
Hmm...there's been an increase in, for lack of a better term "Gradiant" hair. It has existed before, but there's been a definite pattern recently of characters, sometimes even entire casts, who's hair distinctly changes shade, or even color, over its length. oneof the best recent examples of this is Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight, and there have been several others, but my mind is blanking.

As for Nia and Sheryl, Nia's hair was explicitly designed to be otherworldly, its not just oddly colored, but veritably "cloudlike". As for Sheryl, she's supposedly "All natural", but her hair certainly is a unique color, even for Macross. I'd almost define it as being "Pearl"

To a great extent I'm sure this is the result of digital paint allowing things that were never possible with standard painted cells.

The Adventurer
05-19-2008, 03:48 AM
Don't Zentrai have naturally occurring Green hair? Ranka is a quarter Zentrai, so I can almost buy the fact that her hair is bright green.

Blue hair and Pink Hair on the other hand, I chalk up to just being Animeisms (in Macross F anyway). To be fair, it certainly gives animators more leg room to make character's distinct from one another. Though it can get a tad goofy at times.

Quarkboy
05-19-2008, 03:51 AM
Don't Zentrai have naturally occurring Green hair? Ranka is a quarter Zentrai, so I can almost buy the fact that her hair is bright green.

Blue hair and Pink Hair on the other hand, I chalk up to just being Animeisms (in Macross F anyway). To be fair, it certainly gives animators more leg room to make character's distinct from one another. Though it can get a tad goofy at times.
Uh, that's not the topic. I didn't say "unnatural" hair color, I said "ambiguous" hair color. I.e. hair that's not any one particular color, but a strange mixture of more than one.
Unnatural hair color is a topic that everyone has discussed to death, that's NOT what I was talking about.

The Adventurer
05-19-2008, 03:54 AM
Don't Zentrai have naturally occurring Green hair? Ranka is a quarter Zentrai, so I can almost buy the fact that her hair is bright green.

Blue hair and Pink Hair on the other hand, I chalk up to just being Animeisms (in Macross F anyway). To be fair, it certainly gives animators more leg room to make character's distinct from one another. Though it can get a tad goofy at times.
Uh, that's not the topic. I didn't say "unnatural" hair color, I said "ambiguous" hair color. I.e. hair that's not any one particular color, but a strange mixture of more than one.
Unnatural hair color is a topic that everyone has discussed to death, that's NOT what I was talking about.

Oh.

Well, Sheryl's hair looks pink to me.

Randall Miyashiro
05-19-2008, 04:14 AM
There are a few characters in SImoun who also had two toned eye colors which I thought creates a neat effect.

Citizen Klaus
05-19-2008, 07:09 AM
I can't think of any other examples of ambiguously colored hair in anime... are there any others?

♫ Honi honi honi~ ♫ (http://webpages.charter.net/keshava/Misc/potemayo.jpg)

Westlo
05-19-2008, 07:26 AM
Sheryl's hair definiately goes from blonde to pink at times with a lot of scenes being a mixture of both.

Quarkboy
05-19-2008, 07:30 AM
I can't think of any other examples of ambiguously colored hair in anime... are there any others?

♫ Honi honi honi~ ♫ (http://webpages.charter.net/keshava/Misc/potemayo.jpg)
Well that's not so much ambiguous as it is two-colored. Top, pink, bottom, yellow. But it's unique looking, that's true.

something
05-19-2008, 09:17 AM
This is the kind of thing that drives me nuts when trying to tag a hair color on a character in danbooru =P Then again I think the hair color tags are overused and only use them when it's someone I don't have a name for, but that's neither here nor there.

I guess what I'm getting at it... GRADIENT HAIR FTW. That's one kind of ambiguity I'm all about.

Nemo_N
05-19-2008, 10:44 AM
He. I never gave it a second thought since I'm quite used to see stuff colored as if painted with ChromaFlair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromaFlair).

Basically, I took it like the way that paint works; rather than being an ambiguos color is just the angle in which we are seeing it; this can be, of course, perceived as shadows and highlights.

I have seen various examples in artworks previous to the shows you mention (I'll have to dig for them at home), but it seems it might have gained mainstream popularity just now.

4Tran
05-19-2008, 01:47 PM
Considering these are two of the biggest female characters out there, lately, could we consider this a trend? I can't think of any other examples of ambiguously colored hair in anime... are there any others?
The earliest example I can think of would be Rebecca's blond/pink hair in Pani Poni Dash. I remembered it being weird enough that it kept me from watching beyond the first episode for a good long time.

Kouji Tamino
05-19-2008, 01:55 PM
I suddenly had a random flashback to Red Garden as I read the topic. A lot of the characters have hair like that, where their hair will fade from a darker to a lighter shade. I love the designs in that show.

Njr Scrawl
05-19-2008, 02:55 PM
Old fad. Kara Soon in ZZ Gundam had 1 side orange, 1 side yellow.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Idqu4d2nDPA&feature=related 0:21

Quarkboy
05-19-2008, 03:23 PM
Wait, people are getting off track here. I'm not talking about MULTI-colored hair where there are two distinct colors... or gradient hair where it goes from light to dark of a single color.

I'm talking about hair which is hard to identify as one color or another, like the two examples I gave in the original post.

Was I being to ambiguous by using the word ambiguous?

Shiroi Hane
05-19-2008, 06:04 PM
This is the kind of thing that drives me nuts when trying to tag a hair color on a character in danbooru =P Then again I think the hair color tags are overused and only use them when it's someone I don't have a name for, but that's neither here nor there.
there's a gradient_hair tag. Hair colour tags are useful for identifying a character (if you only have physical characteristics to search on, hair colour is a big marker) and for grouping characters (doesn't take long to add the tags and someone looking for a large number of images with blue hair for whatever reason would thank you later).

The Pirate Queen
05-20-2008, 04:56 PM
Was I being to ambiguous by using the word ambiguous?

No, you're merely a victim of the fact that people like to make assumptions about what the thread is about, barely skim over the root post and post, or just use the first post as a jumping board to talk about a similar, somewhat related topic. A discussion board is a fluid thing - you can't really control it.

Kouji Tamino
05-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Was I being to ambiguous by using the word ambiguous?

No, you're merely a victim of the fact that people like to make assumptions about what the thread is about, barely skim over the root post and post, or just use the first post as a jumping board to talk about a similar, somewhat related topic. A discussion board is a fluid thing - you can't really control it.

...What's that about assumptions? Sorry, I truly didn't understand the first post. I read it over and over again, wracked my brain for examples, and then got thrown off by all the other apparently 'off-topic' posts. :P Perhaps pictures would help? I know what Nia looks like, as it is impossible to escape from Gurren Lagaan, but not all of us dabble in the 'evil format'.

MrNice
05-21-2008, 03:06 AM
No, you're merely a victim of the fact that people like to make assumptions about what the thread is about, barely skim over the root post and post, or just use the first post as a jumping board to talk about a similar, somewhat related topic.Yeah, CF how many "what anime do trait X well" threads quickly descend into "here's a list of anime I like which happen to contain trait X (and while I'm here, I'll trash talk shows already mentioned that I hate for reasons other then X)". Given another 5 pages, the need to contain trait X tends to go overboard as well ;) .

Sorry, I truly didn't understand the first post. I read it over and over again, wracked my brain for examples,So how about just not posting :P
I read the first post, hadn't actually seen any pictures of the two characters in question but still got the idea of what he was on about, but also immediately knew that i couldn't think of any examples to post.

something
05-21-2008, 06:17 AM
Was I being to ambiguous by using the word ambiguous?No, you're merely a victim of the fact that people like to make assumptions about what the thread is about, barely skim over the root post and post, or just use the first post as a jumping board to talk about a similar, somewhat related topic.
Er, no.

Gradient hair is often of a very ambiguous color. I fully read the top post, and felt that it was a phenomenon that was valid to bring up under this topic, as I'm sure others did as well. Only later did he explicitly rule it out.

Not every person who doesn't give exactly the answer the OP wants is failing at reading comprehension.

something
05-21-2008, 06:22 AM
This is the kind of thing that drives me nuts when trying to tag a hair color on a character in danbooru =P Then again I think the hair color tags are overused and only use them when it's someone I don't have a name for, but that's neither here nor there.there's a gradient_hair tag.
I know, but gradient hair is often just as ambiguous a color as normal hair, so I still have trouble

And I was also talking about non-gradient hair that was ambiguous as well (except my WORDING was ambiguous there =P). "Should I really use lavender hair? There are a number of other colors I could conceivably use..."

It's like I need a big ass Crayola box next to me to test with when making these decisions, but I have a feeling crayons and monitors don't mix well.

Quarkboy
05-21-2008, 07:32 AM
This is the kind of thing that drives me nuts when trying to tag a hair color on a character in danbooru =P Then again I think the hair color tags are overused and only use them when it's someone I don't have a name for, but that's neither here nor there.there's a gradient_hair tag.
I know, but gradient hair is often just as ambiguous a color as normal hair, so I still have trouble

And I was also talking about non-gradient hair that was ambiguous as well (except my WORDING was ambiguous there =P). "Should I really use lavender hair? There are a number of other colors I could conceivably use..."

It's like I need a big ass Crayola box next to me to test with when making these decisions, but I have a feeling crayons and monitors don't mix well.
Hey, that'd be a good little freeware tool to program: An eyedropper tool that instead of returning the RGB color of the pixel returns an english word that describes the color. You could use a paint color database or something.

The Pirate Queen
05-21-2008, 09:50 AM
Was I being to ambiguous by using the word ambiguous?No, you're merely a victim of the fact that people like to make assumptions about what the thread is about, barely skim over the root post and post, or just use the first post as a jumping board to talk about a similar, somewhat related topic.
Er, no.

Gradient hair is often of a very ambiguous color. I fully read the top post, and felt that it was a phenomenon that was valid to bring up under this topic, as I'm sure others did as well. Only later did he explicitly rule it out.

Not every person who doesn't give exactly the answer the OP wants is failing a reading comprehension.

Errr...it wasn't a criticism, or comment on everybody who posted in the thread. It was just a comment on the general nature of discussion boards. If anything, it was advice for the OP to not take this whole thing quite so seriously.

Kouji Tamino
05-21-2008, 10:03 AM
Was I being to ambiguous by using the word ambiguous?No, you're merely a victim of the fact that people like to make assumptions about what the thread is about, barely skim over the root post and post, or just use the first post as a jumping board to talk about a similar, somewhat related topic.
Er, no.

Gradient hair is often of a very ambiguous color. I fully read the top post, and felt that it was a phenomenon that was valid to bring up under this topic, as I'm sure others did as well. Only later did he explicitly rule it out.

Not every person who doesn't give exactly the answer the OP wants is failing a reading comprehension.

Errr...it wasn't a criticism, or comment on everybody who posted in the thread. It was just a comment on the general nature of discussion boards. If anything, it was advice for the OP to not take this whole thing quite so seriously.

But... but... the internet is serious business!