View Full Version : Time for more "Hime"
Saw this news over on ANN, Fence and others will be happy about it.
The official Japanese website of the My-HiME (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4155) and My-Otome (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5378) supernatural slice-of-life anime franchises has announced (http://www.my-zhime.net/) that a new project has begun with a different heroine, Mao. No more information has been given for now, but the website promises additional details will be provided soon. Bandai Entertainment (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=3) announced (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-07-21/bandai-goes-geass) at Otakon 2007 that it acquired the My-Otome Zwei (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6446) sequel after releasing both the My-HiME and My-Otome television series, but the My-Otome 0~S.ifr~ (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=8764) prequel has yet to be announced as licensed for North America.
Not much is known yet, so no details if it'll be like My Hime(hopefully) or in the "Otome universe". Still anything with the series name makes me take notice, so it should be interesting.
HitokiriShadow
06-02-2008, 12:06 AM
Interesting. More Mai-* is good, I guess. I was underwhelmed (to say the least) by Mai-Otome, but hopefully this new series will be a bit better.
Solid Slap
06-02-2008, 12:14 AM
More "HiME" less "Otome" please (or should I just say more ShizNat?). Whatever the case, I'm practically spazzing at the possibilities.
something
06-02-2008, 12:16 AM
HiME was one of my favorite shows ever and Otome was even better, so I'll of course be looking forward to this very much. The "new heroine" bit is fine too, because I <3 <3 Arika, so there's no reason this new girl can't be just as awesome. I sort of wanted to smack Mai in HiME eventually anyway. So it's not like I expected or needed her to stay as a lead.
They already have a very interesting, sexy, dynamic, varied and LARGE cast of characters to draw on, and I very much want to keep seeing them in various forms as we move through new settings and all.
Fencedude
06-02-2008, 12:18 AM
Nifty, though I'm not really feeling "Mao's" character design from what I can see of it.
Nifty, though I'm not really feeling "Mao's" character design from what I can see of it.
She looks like a cross between Yukariko from Hime and young Maria from Otome.
something
06-02-2008, 12:25 AM
Nifty, though I'm not really feeling "Mao's" character design from what I can see of it.
Me neither, though it's such a bad pic it's hard to tell. Makes her nose look all weird.
Fencedude
06-02-2008, 12:27 AM
Nifty, though I'm not really feeling "Mao's" character design from what I can see of it.
Me neither, though it's such a bad pic it's hard to tell. Makes her nose look all weird.
Talking to a friend on AIM, he thinks she has a bandage on her nose, which means she's a tomboy.
4chan had a more isolated (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2342/1212385474499kp1.jpg) picture. Not much better, but at least you can zoom in.
Fencedude
06-02-2008, 12:47 AM
PREDICTIONS:
We Get ShizNats shoved down our throat again.
Terrible things happen to Akane
Even worse things happen to Erstin
The most awesome characters will get the least amount of screen time
Midori will pretend to be JYUU-NANA-SAI
Nao will do all the hard work and get no appreciation
They will criminally underuse the awesome secondary cast Otome built up instead of giving them a time in the spotlight.
PREDICTIONS:
We Get ShizNats shoved down our throat again.
Terrible things happen to Akane
Even worse things happen to Erstin
The most awesome characters will get the least amount of screen time
Midori will pretend to be JYUU-NANA-SAI
Nao will do all the hard work and get no appreciation
They will criminally underuse the awesome secondary cast Otome built up instead of giving them a time in the spotlight.
No Haruka?
:P
Fencedude
06-02-2008, 12:57 AM
No Haruka?
:P
Haruka will be a gag character, as always. I've never felt she was unfairly treated, since I didn't ever think she was that interesting compared to other characters.
She'll have her normal dynamic with Yukino, and will continue to basically be the same person she was in HiME and ZHiME...but I don't really care.
*shrugs*
Splitter
06-02-2008, 01:04 AM
Hopefully this time, Yukino is the one who goes psycho-lesbian.
something
06-02-2008, 01:15 AM
We Get ShizNats shoved down our throat again.
Not that I mind very much.
Fencedude
06-02-2008, 01:38 AM
We Get ShizNats shoved down our throat again.
Not that I mind very much.
I really couldn't stand Otome Shizuru.
No Haruka?
:P
Haruka will be a gag character, as always. I've never felt she was unfairly treated, since I didn't ever think she was that interesting compared to other characters.
She'll have her normal dynamic with Yukino, and will continue to basically be the same person she was in HiME and ZHiME...but I don't really care.
*shrugs*
Hmm, I can agree with that. Whoever she gets reincarnated as in this upcoming project, she'll have trusty Yukino by her side ;). The Hime staff has done a great job in keeping the characters core personalities while changing their roles and surroundings.
Hopefully this time, Yukino is the one who goes psycho-lesbian.
You and me both :nosebleed:. Although for now Shizuru has that role down pat, not so sure about the baby toys form Otome though...
Draneor
06-02-2008, 06:15 AM
But what gender will Mashiro be this time?
I agree that the character design of what I presume to be Mao is lacking.
Solid Slap
06-02-2008, 08:12 AM
Hopefully this time, Yukino is the one who goes psycho-lesbian.
You and me both :nosebleed:. Although for now Shizuru has that role down pat, not so sure about the baby toys form Otome though...
Mmm, Tomoe played that role (rather horribly) in Otome if only because of her defeat and subsequent survival which just lead me to believe the Otome ending was rushed to hell.
I definitely don't mind; Sunrise can shove all the ShizNat they want down my throat and I'll be better off for it.
I do have to wonder who will be incorporated into this new series and what their roles will be, especially with the newer Otome characters being that I did not like some of them. I could chalk it up to the amount of screen time they got, so I can only hope that if they are used they are used to better capacity much like how HiME handled its cast.
Sly05
06-02-2008, 08:38 AM
Interesting. While I was disappointed by Otome and Zwei was downright bad, Sifr (or at least the first episode of it) was great so I'm hoping Sunrise has finally worked out the kinks in their formula for the franchise. It will also be interesting to see if its in the Otome or Hime universe (or an entirely new one).
I do have to wonder who will be incorporated into this new series and what their roles will be, especially with the newer Otome characters being that I did not like some of them. I could chalk it up to the amount of screen time they got, so I can only hope that if they are used they are used to better capacity much like how HiME handled its cast.
Well I can remember before Otome aired Sunrise(probably the Hime staff) said that they were treating the characters from Hime as actors, not so much as "one and done" characters. So if you take their word you're basically having those characters "act" a different role with the same personalities. I personally liked Hime more then Otome, mainly for that school setting, but I could see them going for something new since Otome has two OVA's already. That and Mao appears to be in a school uniform.
Suwako Moriya
06-02-2008, 09:08 AM
More My in general would be good and heck this could be a third universe for all we know... Still I liked My-HiME and My-Otome so whatever works.
Suwako Moriya
06-02-2008, 09:09 AM
Nifty, though I'm not really feeling "Mao's" character design from what I can see of it.
I'll be able to feel it perhaps once a better image is out. Even the isolated image doesn't help much. It's fuzzy even before being zoomed for me.
Suwako Moriya
06-02-2008, 09:11 AM
PREDICTIONS:
Does saying "I will end up liking the Shiho and Mashiro of the series" count as a prediction?
Suwako Moriya
06-02-2008, 09:13 AM
Hopefully this time, Yukino is the one who goes psycho-lesbian.
So what does this reduce Shizuru to? Just a lesbian or just a psycho? Or wait she was both in HiME and seemed to be closer to just a lesbian in Otome. Maybe in this one she can just be psycho.
William K
06-02-2008, 11:04 AM
They should do a crossover with Macross Frontier and call it My-Alto Hime
Videl
06-02-2008, 11:12 AM
They should do a crossover with Macross Frontier and call it My-Alto Hime
Bad William, no cookie for you ;)
personally i hope it's another Hime series, both Otome series seemed to start with potential then fall at the last hurdle
William K
06-02-2008, 11:30 AM
They should do a crossover with Macross Frontier and call it My-Alto Hime
Bad William, no cookie for you ;)
personally i hope it's another Hime series, both Otome series seemed to start with potential then fall at the last hurdle
From Mao's uniform, it looks like neither...though probably closer to Hime than Otome
Suwako Moriya
06-02-2008, 11:42 AM
They should do a crossover with Macross Frontier and call it My-Alto Hime
Fine just so long as Ranka Lee gets a good role.
Azumangaman
06-02-2008, 01:17 PM
After just finishing My-Hime 5 minutes ago (one of my favourites without a doubt), I just thought that I'd mention that during the credits what looks like the main character in My-Otome pops up for a second. I thought she looked familiar so I looked at some cover art for Otome. Thought it was cool.
Damn, now I have to get Otome. HiME was SO GOOD!
Videl
06-02-2008, 01:34 PM
After just finishing My-Hime 5 minutes ago (one of my favourites without a doubt), I just thought that I'd mention that during the credits what looks like the main character in My-Otome pops up for a second. I thought she looked familiar so I looked at some cover art for Otome. Thought it was cool.
Damn, now I have to get Otome. HiME was SO GOOD!
it is
you'll also notice in the opening behind Mai in school, is Nina Wong
Personally i'd like to see the a story that follows the manga a bit more too. I almost prefer the manga to the series
Hayate Kurogane
06-02-2008, 01:44 PM
That's cool.
Though I wouldn't mind if they also wanted to go ahead and actually make the fake My-HiME movie. Throw in a few more details to further muddy the waters as far as whether or not My-HiME and My Otome actually do take place in the same universe, because speculation is fun.
Suwako Moriya
06-02-2008, 01:51 PM
Though I wouldn't mind if they also wanted to go ahead and actually make the fake My-HiME movie.
There's got to be some way to make them actually make that movie. Yes I know it requires doing the impossible.
mitamaking
06-02-2008, 02:55 PM
I just want a sequel to My-Hime, is that so wrong, no we get 12 different Otomes and a new one centered around Mao(who I didn't even really like).
Oh well maybe we will get My-Hime 00.
mikedude
06-02-2008, 03:19 PM
Excellent.
I still want a My-HiME Destiny series, though.
Buckeye
06-02-2008, 05:16 PM
Should be great stuff when we get to know the events that proceeded the storyline in My Otome.
akitafuki
06-02-2008, 06:09 PM
It will definitely be interesting what becomes of this new series. :)
something
06-02-2008, 09:05 PM
and a new one centered around Mao(who I didn't even really like).
Wait, how can you not like her if she hasn't existed yet? I don't remember seeing her in any other continuity.
After just finishing My-Hime 5 minutes ago (one of my favourites without a doubt), I just thought that I'd mention that during the credits what looks like the main character in My-Otome pops up for a second. I thought she looked familiar so I looked at some cover art for Otome. Thought it was cool.
Damn, now I have to get Otome. HiME was SO GOOD!
it is
you'll also notice in the opening behind Mai in school, is Nina Wong
Personally i'd like to see the a story that follows the manga a bit more too. I almost prefer the manga to the series
I remember that from when we all were following Hime, in the last episode they lingered on Arika looking lost at the school just for a second more to notice they were purposely doing it. Of course well found out what the meant when Otome was announced.
HitokiriShadow
06-02-2008, 09:26 PM
But what gender will Mashiro be this time?
She damn well better be female.
I agree that the character design of what I presume to be Mao is lacking.
I'm going to at least wait until I have a half-decent picture to judge it.
HitokiriShadow
06-02-2008, 09:27 PM
and a new one centered around Mao(who I didn't even really like).
Wait, how can you not like her if she hasn't existed yet? I don't remember seeing her in any other continuity.
I think he's mixing her up with Nao.
stfram
06-03-2008, 02:06 AM
I wonder if this show will have handcuff-girl in it?
Hayate Kurogane
06-03-2008, 07:53 AM
Though I wouldn't mind if they also wanted to go ahead and actually make the fake My-HiME movie.
There's got to be some way to make them actually make that movie. Yes I know it requires doing the impossible.
I bet money would work, too.
mitamaking
06-03-2008, 11:47 AM
and a new one centered around Mao(who I didn't even really like).
Wait, how can you not like her if she hasn't existed yet? I don't remember seeing her in any other continuity.
I think he's mixing her up with Nao.
Yeah, well now that gives me a bit more hope, but I still want a Hime sequel, and have Tate in it, he wasn't even in the movie trailer.
Fencedude
06-03-2008, 02:41 PM
and have Tate in it, he wasn't even in the movie trailer.
Why would you want such a thing!?
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2008, 02:46 PM
I wonder if this show will have handcuff-girl in it?
Considering that she's supposedly the lead in My-HiME Destiny, it would be nice to see an anime version of that used to introduce her.
HitokiriShadow
06-03-2008, 02:59 PM
It would be nice to see her in the anime, but keep in mind that the HiME manga and game both had characters that never appeared in any other part of the Mai-* franchise and the Otome manga may have had some as well (but Manshiro better stay there). Of course, there is nothing to stop this new series from bringing them into the anime and handcuff girl and some other novel girl did at least get an appearance in some magazine spread(s?), so maybe that was some pre-announcement hype for their future anime incarnation. But I'm not expecting it, merely hoping for it.
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2008, 03:15 PM
and have Tate in it, he wasn't even in the movie trailer.Why would you want such a thing!?
Who knows? I'd say he had more than enough time to shine. Maybe in a reduced role, it would be ok. Speaking of Tate or rather Yuuichi... I'm still amazed at how often people use Yuuichi's family name instead of his given name. Where as in the case of everyone else their given name is used.
DiGiKerot
06-03-2008, 03:45 PM
I wonder if this show will have handcuff-girl in it?
Considering that she's supposedly the lead in My-HiME Destiny, it would be nice to see an anime version of that used to introduce her.
Thats assuming that this is actually an anime show, and not a game, novel series or manga or whatever. I don't really want to get my hopes up, but...
I can't imagine them ever animating Destiny given that it's alternate universe - everything they've animated thus far can, at least, be seen as having some sense of continuity.
Then again, if this is a new anime series, I do wonder if they can stick with that this time, and where in the time-line it would fit. I guess there's a limit to what you can ascertain from that one image other than that it looks like another contemporary high-school series like HiME rather than ZHiME, in which case I'd question how much of the original HiME cast would make a reappearance. I suspect raiding ZHiMEs B-Cast is more likely, if that is the case.
For all we know right now, though, the show could take place during mankinds expedition into space between HiME and ZHiME, which would be awesome, but very very unlikely.
I do suspect handcuff-girl will be amongst the recycled designs in the new show, though - she made S.ifr, after all. Maybe the fatgirl might actually get a more significant role than saying "Look! Tanks!" this time, too...
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2008, 03:52 PM
I do suspect handcuff-girl will be amongst the recycled designs in the new show, though - she made S.ifr, after all.
Interesting, I still have yet to check that out. Then again I've been holding off on Zwei as well.
Hayate Kurogane
06-03-2008, 04:01 PM
I wonder if this show will have handcuff-girl in it?
Considering that she's supposedly the lead in My-HiME Destiny, it would be nice to see an anime version of that used to introduce her.
I do suspect handcuff-girl will be amongst the recycled designs in the new show, though - she made S.ifr, after all.
Who now? Raquel, right? Red-haired with pigtails (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/asagiri2040/Sifr1Booklet2.jpg)?
Fencedude
06-03-2008, 04:06 PM
I wonder if this show will have handcuff-girl in it?
Considering that she's supposedly the lead in My-HiME Destiny, it would be nice to see an anime version of that used to introduce her.
I do suspect handcuff-girl will be amongst the recycled designs in the new show, though - she made S.ifr, after all.
Who now? Raquel, right? Red-haired with pigtails (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/asagiri2040/Sifr1Booklet2.jpg)?
Isn't handcuff girl Sifr?
HitokiriShadow
06-03-2008, 04:10 PM
I guess there's a limit to what you can ascertain from that one image other than that it looks like another contemporary high-school series like HiME rather than ZHiME, in which case I'd question how much of the original HiME cast would make a reappearance. I suspect raiding ZHiMEs B-Cast is more likely, if that is the case.
[snip]
I do suspect handcuff-girl will be amongst the recycled designs in the new show, though - she made S.ifr, after all. Maybe the fatgirl might actually get a more significant role than saying "Look! Tanks!" this time, too...
I didn't realize they used her design in S.ifr. Speaking of S.ifr, I hope some of those characters get recycled for the new series. While I hope they keep Nao around and maybe give her a good sized role, I wouldn't mind seeing some of the other characters kept to more minimal roles. I also think it would be nice to see Akira given a good sized role, she's always been a very minor character, especially in Otome.
DiGiKerot
06-03-2008, 04:13 PM
Who now? Raquel, right? Red-haired with pigtails (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/asagiri2040/Sifr1Booklet2.jpg)?
Isn't handcuff girl Sifr?
Nah, SS is right. The handcuff girl - Kagura Mayo in Destiny - was recycled into Raquel Major in Sifr (and is why some people still insist on romanizing her name as Raquel Mayol despite the evidence to the contrary).
I'm pretty sure Sifr herself isn't actually a recycle.
DiGiKerot
06-03-2008, 04:23 PM
I do suspect handcuff-girl will be amongst the recycled designs in the new show, though - she made S.ifr, after all.
Interesting, I still have yet to check that out. Then again I've been holding off on Zwei as well.
I liked Zwei, but the first episode of Sifr was infinitely better. It's just a shame that the gap between episodes has been so protracted. Five months is a harsh wait between episodes.
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2008, 04:30 PM
Five months is a harsh wait between episodes.
A wait that long would make me rather just ignore the thing until all the episodes are out and focus on other things. Besides by the time I can watch the next episode, I'd probably need to refresh myself on the previous one...
Hayate Kurogane
06-03-2008, 04:38 PM
Five months is a harsh wait between episodes.
A wait that long would make me rather just ignore the thing until all the episodes are out and focus on other things. Besides by the time I can watch the next episode, I'd probably need to refresh myself on the previous one...
Ah, see, but when you regularly watch that first episode every few weeks or so, it becomes very familiar.
Not that I'm doing such a thing. Especially not when I have a backlog of things I've never seen before that I should be watching instead.
*checks calendar*
Hmmm... S.ifr night isn't for another few nights, but... no! Must... justify... other... purchases... by... watching... them... will... not... rewatch... must... resist...
*fails*
*takes S.ifr DVD off shelf*
something
06-03-2008, 04:44 PM
and have Tate in it, he wasn't even in the movie trailer. Why would you want such a thing!?
Dislikes Nao and likes Tate? ::mind boggles:: We must not let them anywhere near the planning committee for this My~* incarnation.
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2008, 04:51 PM
Ah, see, but when you regularly watch that first episode every few weeks or so, it becomes very familiar.
Well I guess that's one alternative strategy and it's not like I'm a stranger to re-watching things... Which is often part of the reason I fall behind on things. Still I'll worry about what to do in terms of S.ifr later. At least with Zwei it's a simple matter of waiting for the R1 release.
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2008, 04:52 PM
Dislikes Nao and likes Tate? ::mind boggles:: We must not let them anywhere near the planning committee for this My~* incarnation.
Would it be okay for me to visit there and make sure there's plenty of focus on Mashiro and Alyssa? *Runs*
something
06-03-2008, 04:54 PM
Would it be okay for me to visit there and make sure there's plenty of focus on Mashiro and Alyssa? *Runs*
By all means, go ahead. Alyssa in particular.
Fencedude
06-03-2008, 04:56 PM
Five months is a harsh wait between episodes.
A wait that long would make me rather just ignore the thing until all the episodes are out and focus on other things. Besides by the time I can watch the next episode, I'd probably need to refresh myself on the previous one...
Ah, see, but when you regularly watch that first episode every few weeks or so, it becomes very familiar.
Not that I'm doing such a thing. Especially not when I have a backlog of things I've never seen before that I should be watching instead.
*checks calendar*
Hmmm... S.ifr night isn't for another few nights, but... no! Must... justify... other... purchases... by... watching... them... will... not... rewatch... must... resist...
*fails*
*takes S.ifr DVD off shelf*
That reminds me, I haven't watched Sifr in a while...I should do that...
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2008, 04:58 PM
Would it be okay for me to visit there and make sure there's plenty of focus on Mashiro and Alyssa? *Runs*By all means, go ahead. Alyssa in particular.
I wonder what an older Alyssa would be like. Uh not that I'm thinking about that. Still I just love their roles in HiME and Otome. In My-HiME, Mashiro makes for an awesome shadow main.
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2008, 05:00 PM
That reminds me, I haven't watched Sifr in a while...I should do that...
Hmm maybe I should actually consider watching it, but I'm currently watching a few other things right now. Won't mention what to try to keep this on topic.
Fencedude
06-03-2008, 05:53 PM
That reminds me, I haven't watched Sifr in a while...I should do that...
*finishes*
Delicious. I'd forgotten how amusing the Sifr cast was.
Shame this is only going to be three episodes, this cast is by far the best they've assembled since the original HiME.
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2008, 06:18 PM
Shame this is only going to be three episodes, this cast is by far the best they've assembled since the original HiME.
I have to admit the cast is rather well interesting. Yeah so I just finished watching the first episode of S.ifr which means so much for waiting off.
Hayate Kurogane
06-03-2008, 06:29 PM
That reminds me, I haven't watched Sifr in a while...I should do that...
*finishes*
Delicious. I'd forgotten how amusing the Sifr cast was.
Shame this is only going to be three episodes, this cast is by far the best they've assembled since the original HiME.
Hooray for Eliot! Tackling Lena onto the couch = most amusing scene and most WIN scene in the episode. I guess I'm just a sucker for the GalacticaMarine girls (fan of Sara Gallagher as well, even if she's just borrowed from another franchise and has very little screentime).
Fencedude
06-03-2008, 06:34 PM
Hooray for Eliot! Tackling Lena onto the couch = most amusing scene and most WIN scene in the episode. I guess I'm just a sucker for the GalacticaMarine girls (fan of Sara Gallagher as well, even if she's just borrowed from another franchise and has very little screentime).
Sara Gallagher was cool, in a "Vega meets Batman" (http://www.fencedude.com/Images2/Sara-Vega-Batman.jpg) kind of way.
But yeah, the GalacticaMarine is a cool gem.
Hopefully we'll see more of Elliot and/or Sara in the new series.
mitamaking
06-04-2008, 12:05 AM
So I am suppose to like the only character that is actually evil(I don't care if her mom is sick, look at what she does) than the only guy in the actual show that does anything productive and unlike the Himes he would actually die(I know the whole thing was losing someone is worse than losing yourself) but it takes guts to do what Tate did, and with 13+ girls in a series you need one boy who isn't evil or an ass.
I also want to see the class rep's assitant have a bigger role in a sequel and if I am going to go all the way, Mai should be the lead, yes that is right actually have the lead be the lead in a sequel I am going into dangerous territory there.
So I am suppose to like the only character that is actually evil(I don't care if her mom is sick, look at what she does) than the only guy in the actual show that does anything productive and unlike the Himes he would actually die(I know the whole thing was losing someone is worse than losing yourself) but it takes guts to do what Tate did, and with 13+ girls in a series you need one boy who isn't evil or an ass.
I also want to see the class rep's assitant have a bigger role in a sequel and if I am going to go all the way, Mai should be the lead, yes that is right actually have the lead be the lead in a sequel I am going into dangerous territory there.
Tate's issue was that he genuinely liked Mai, but he tried to deny it to Shiho the whole time, who obviously knew what was going on. He ends up playing "both sides" trying to juggle Shiho and his feelings for Mai. Even though I felt for Shiho in the scene where shes trying to go down the stairs in her wheel chair and ends up falling down right onto the ground, she does kind of put a burden on Tate. The scene that I instantly remember as an example is when Tate wants to go to the festival to talk to Mai, but ends up catching her and Reito right before they would of kissed.
Mai liked him enough as well, going so far as to tell him before he faded away into a wind of green sparklies after she defeated Shiho.
We don't know anything plot wise yet, so it might not even be related to the original Hime and just use the characters like Otome did.
Fencedude
06-04-2008, 04:55 AM
So I am suppose to like the only character that is actually evil(I don't care if her mom is sick, look at what she does) than the only guy in the actual show that does anything productive and unlike the Himes he would actually die(I know the whole thing was losing someone is worse than losing yourself) but it takes guts to do what Tate did, and with 13+ girls in a series you need one boy who isn't evil or an ass.
I also want to see the class rep's assitant have a bigger role in a sequel and if I am going to go all the way, Mai should be the lead, yes that is right actually have the lead be the lead in a sequel I am going into dangerous territory there.
You are so...so...so...traditional!
something
06-04-2008, 06:16 AM
So I am suppose to like the only character that is actually evil than the only guy in the actual show that does anything productive
Yes.
And Tate has never done anything productive. Easily one of my most hated characters in anything ever.
Granted, I'm not a huge Nao fan (I like her, but I like about half a dozen or more characters way more.) But Tate is just so fundamentally fail on every level that he singlehandedly dragged down HiME. There are two primary reasons why I prefer Otome to HiME. First is the infinitely better ending. Second is that the "new" Tate wasn't anywhere near as annoying, and for most of the show is actually quite likable. Things stumble in the end but he's still a far better character.
But Tate.... argh. Infinite haaaaaaaatred. I can't express enough how much I loathe him with every molecule of my being.
Edit: I'll agree about a bigger role for Yukino. Yukino is <3. But I disagree about Mai being the lead. Been there, done that, want new characters in addition to the beloved older cast. I was worried how switching things up would work in Otome, but it turned out even better than the original so I definitely want more. I wound up liking Arika as a lead more than Mai (who started to seriously bug me late in HiME though she sort of redeems herself). The My~* universe can keep expanding forever if it wants. I welcome Mao and any other new characters they bring to us.
Draneor
06-04-2008, 09:47 AM
Tate's issue was [...]
The interesting thing is the My-Hime manga approached the story entirely different, even though it had the same characters. For that matter, so did the My-Otome manga, where Mashiro is a boy.^^ The Hime/Otome star system can result in very different outcomes or roles for various characters.
Personally, I only watched My-Hime because I wanted to watch My-Otome. So throw me in the crowd that loved the new cast much better than the old. Also, I despise Nao.
Tate's issue was [...]
The interesting thing is the My-Hime manga approached the story entirely different, even though it had the same characters. For that matter, so did the My-Otome manga, where Mashiro is a boy.^^ The Hime/Otome star system can result in very different outcomes or roles for various characters.
Personally, I only watched My-Hime because I wanted to watch My-Otome. So throw me in the crowd that loved the new cast much better than the old. Also, I despise Nao.
Well the manga was different, with the "keyholes and everything :P. Then again Haruka was a Hime in the manga, so it all evened out. I never got around to the manga outside of the normal page popping up every once in a while, so my knowledge comes mainly from the Hime TV series.
Draneor
06-04-2008, 10:31 AM
Well the manga was different, with the "keyholes and everything :P. Then again Haruka was a Hime in the manga, so it all evened out. I never got around to the manga outside of the normal page popping up every once in a while, so my knowledge comes mainly from the Hime TV series.
Yes it was different (and the term was Keys not "Keyholes--it wasn't that perverted. It even ended with Tate having (do not read if you do not want to know the ending to the My-Hime manga) Mai on one arm and Natsuki on the other (more or less). Of course, there are also the games, which I know nothing about.
Shiroi Hane
06-05-2008, 08:33 PM
Tate or rather Yuuichi... I'm still amazed at how often people use Yuuichi's family name instead of his given name. Where as in the case of everyone else their given name is used.
IIRC I never realised what his first name was for the longest time.
Suwako Moriya
06-05-2008, 08:35 PM
IIRC I never realised what his first name was for the longest time.
Probably because of how often his family name of Tate is used compared to his given name of Yuuichi. Actually there are times I actually need to remind myself that sometimes characters are referred to by family name rather than given.
pianocello
06-05-2008, 09:16 PM
This show better have some hardcore yuri action.....
UEHacker
06-05-2008, 09:37 PM
I am shocked and appalled at all the Nao hate. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Fencedude
06-05-2008, 09:51 PM
This show better have some hardcore yuri action.....
I'll settle for canon lesbians who aren't A) Psychopaths and B) Shiznat.
Psycho 101
06-06-2008, 03:31 AM
I am shocked and appalled at all the Nao hate. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
I couldn't stand here in Hime' but found her to be decent in Otome' myself. Honestly I'm looking forward to it as I am I suppose one of the few who enjoyed Otome' as much as Hime'. I always get flak for that heh. Though I did find Shiho to be more annoying then nails on a chalkboard in Otome'. I swear if I hear Maki Maki one more time I'll lose it. Hopefully she'll not be in, or have a back seat role, in the new project.
UEHacker
06-06-2008, 07:06 PM
I am shocked and appalled at all the Nao hate. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
I couldn't stand here in Hime' but found her to be decent in Otome' myself. Honestly I'm looking forward to it as I am I suppose one of the few who enjoyed Otome' as much as Hime'. I always get flak for that heh. Though I did find Shiho to be more annoying then nails on a chalkboard in Otome'. I swear if I hear Maki Maki one more time I'll lose it. Hopefully she'll not be in, or have a back seat role, in the new project.
I don't see how someone couldn't stand Nao in HiME, she was the one treated the most unjustly out of everyone else, just because of her stereotype. She acted the way she did because she was forced to, and because nobody would believe her.
Fencedude
06-06-2008, 07:14 PM
I don't see how someone couldn't stand Nao in HiME, she was the one treated the most unjustly out of everyone else, just because of her stereotype. She acted the way she did because she was forced to, and because nobody would believe her.
Exactly.
Oh sure she wasn't exactly a good girl (she was making money by mugging people after all) but much of what she's really hated for wasn't her fault.
I love how in Otome, Juliet Nao is pretty much exactly what Nao Yuuki would have been without the childhood trauma and subsequent problems.
She's still not a "good girl" (good girls don't read treatises on the comparitive philosophies of Masoch and deSade, after all) but she was playful and kind nonetheless.
UEHacker
06-06-2008, 07:17 PM
I don't see how someone couldn't stand Nao in HiME, she was the one treated the most unjustly out of everyone else, just because of her stereotype. She acted the way she did because she was forced to, and because nobody would believe her.
Exactly.
Oh sure she wasn't exactly a good girl (she was making money by mugging people after all) but much of what she's really hated for wasn't her fault.
I love how in Otome, Juliet Nao is pretty much exactly what Nao Yuuki would have been without the childhood trauma and subsequent problems.
She's still not a "good girl" (good girls don't read treatises on the comparitive philosophies of Masoch and deSade, after all) but she was playful and kind nonetheless.
Finally someone understands me! :D
Suwako Moriya
06-06-2008, 07:33 PM
Oh sure she wasn't exactly a good girl (she was making money by mugging people after all) but much of what she's really hated for wasn't her fault.
I still remember being angry over how easily Natsuki believed Yuriko and blamed Nao. All because Yuriko is a "Sister" and because of Nao's past actions. It kind of reminds of a line I heard while someone else watching something. I believe it went sort of like this. "His past made him the perfect scapegoat, no one would believe him. While your badge was the perfect defense, no one would question you." Sorry I can't remember anything else, but it describes the Yuriko, Nao, and Natsuki thing well
That being said at first I mainly saw Nao as some thug taking advantage of the situation. but as the show progressed and it was clear that she was actually the one being taken advantage of. I began to feel sorry for her in some ways. The poor girl deserved better.
I love how in Otome, Juliet Nao is pretty much exactly what Nao Yuuki would have been without the childhood trauma and subsequent problems.
Which is one of the things I like about Otome, it gave us a chance to see old characters in a new light. By allowing for "what if scenarios" such as that. It's kind of neat how just a few changes here and there can make quite the difference.
Psycho 101
06-07-2008, 04:38 AM
Which is one of the things I like about Otome, it gave us a chance to see old characters in a new light. By allowing for "what if scenarios" such as that. It's kind of neat how just a few changes here and there can make quite the difference.
Oh quite the difference it can make indeed. Shiho went from annoying to I want to freaking kill her to make her shut up, oh why won't she shut up already! I'd love to Maki Maki her face with a baseball bat I tells ya. I also found Mashiro to be a bit annoying at first. Later on she grew up some and the annoyance factor faded, but at the start I didn't care for her much. Though despite what most think I actually found Shizuru to be more likable in Otome' then in Hime'. I guess partyl because she had an actual role besides to add more yuri elements to the show.
Which is one of the things I like about Otome, it gave us a chance to see old characters in a new light. By allowing for "what if scenarios" such as that. It's kind of neat how just a few changes here and there can make quite the difference.
Oh quite the difference it can make indeed. Shiho went from annoying to I want to freaking kill her to make her shut up, oh why won't she shut up already! I'd love to Maki Maki her face with a baseball bat I tells ya. I also found Mashiro to be a bit annoying at first. Later on she grew up some and the annoyance factor faded, but at the start I didn't care for her much. Though despite what most think I actually found Shizuru to be more likable in Otome' then in Hime'. I guess partyl because she had an actual role besides to add more yuri elements to the show.
"This Weeks Armitage" was pretty nice as an Otome extra, don't get to see Haruka blush that much ;). I did like Akane and Kazuya better in Otome though, probably because they had more time on screen instead of poor Akane getting knocked out early on
Suwako Moriya
06-07-2008, 09:34 AM
I'd love to Maki Maki her face with a baseball bat I tells ya
Those who are not fans of Shiho have no right to use the power of Maki Maki. *Runs*
something
06-07-2008, 09:39 AM
I did like Akane and Kazuya better in Otome though, probably because they had more time on screen instead of poor Akane getting knocked out early on
That's one of the things I liked best. I <3 Akane immensely.
Suwako Moriya
06-08-2008, 01:42 PM
That's one of the things I liked best. I <3 Akane immensely.
I just hope that in the next series Akane has better luck getting together with Kazuya. So close and yet so far. It's like the powers that be hate her.
Draneor
06-08-2008, 03:43 PM
I just hope that in the next series Akane has better luck getting together with Kazuya. So close and yet so far. It's like the powers that be hate her.
That would mean Akane would no longer be pure, innocent, or an otome. Personally, I don't see it happening.
Fencedude
06-08-2008, 04:19 PM
I just hope that in the next series Akane has better luck getting together with Kazuya. So close and yet so far. It's like the powers that be hate her.
That would mean Akane would no longer be pure, innocent, or an otome. Personally, I don't see it happening.
Err...what does Otome Akane have to do with this?
Suwako Moriya
06-08-2008, 04:39 PM
That would mean Akane would no longer be pure, innocent, or an otome. Personally, I don't see it happening.Err...what does Otome Akane have to do with this?
I would say more or less the same exact thing as HiME Akane. Both are past versions of Akane that might be used to influence the next version of her, but neither are going to 100% dictate what she'll be like. Especially when there Then again for all we know Akane may not even be in this new series or have a role so minor that she may as well not exist. Only the future can tell us, but for certain this would be ???? Akane as opposed to HiME Akane or Otome Akane.
Still regardless when I said next series I definitely did not mean a direct sequel to My-Otome, but was more referring to this new "My Series" being worked on. That being said if there was to be more My-Otome past "Zwei" in terms of chronological order, I don't think it would be so bad for Akane to eventually find happiness. If Otome never got to "retire" then Arika wouldn't exist. Also there's always the idea of cheating with a "years later" thing.
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