Slayers Revolution! Series Discussion Thread

[Fencedude]

...do I really need an introduction for this? Its new Slayers!

ANN Link (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=9500)
Official Site (http://www.starchild.co.jp/special/slayers_revolution/)

The show is about to air, so I'll have thoughts afterwards, hopefully...

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[Fencedude]

I came in expecting Slayers....AND I GOT SLAYERS!

Damn, episode was awesome from start to finish.

Opening with Lina and Gourry taking on a bunch of pirates, we have the standard Lina stuff, tossing fireballs and going on about how awesome she is. Also we start a running gag of Gourry breaking his sword, since if you'll remember he no longer has the Sword of Light. So now wenever he breaks his sword he whips out an anvil and forges a new one.

Anyway, Amelia and Zel show up, they head back to port. Lina gets arrested for being Lina Inverse, and the standard Slayers catastrophe occurs, and it ends, of course, in a Dragon Slave, but...!

[Quarkboy]

I came in expecting Slayers....AND I GOT SLAYERS!

Damn, episode was awesome from start to finish.

Opening with Lina and Gourry taking on a bunch of pirates, we have the standard Lina stuff, tossing fireballs and going on about how awesome she is. Also we start a running gag of Gourry breaking his sword, since if you'll remember he no longer has the Sword of Light. So now wenever he breaks his sword he whips out an anvil and forges a new one.

Anyway, Amelia and Zel show up, they head back to port. Lina gets arrested for being Lina Inverse, and the standard Slayers catastrophe occurs, and it ends, of course, in a Dragon Slave, but...!

Wait, it just finished airing about 10 minutes ago... did you watch it live? (I recorded it).

[Fencedude]

Wait, it just finished airing about 10 minutes ago... did you watch it live? (I recorded it).

Yep. Live stream.

[Quarkboy]

Wait, it just finished airing about 10 minutes ago... did you watch it live? (I recorded it).

Yep. Live stream.

I'm not sure if this is breaking forum rules but...

Where the heck does TV Tokyo send out a live stream?

Or do you have your own Friio box hooked up to a media server over the internet or something?

[Fencedude]

Wait, it just finished airing about 10 minutes ago... did you watch it live? (I recorded it).

Yep. Live stream.

I'm not sure if this is breaking forum rules but...

Where the heck does TV Tokyo send out a live stream?

Or do you have your own Friio box hooked up to a media server over the internet or something?

There's a group that streams shows live from Japan. I have no idea how they do it, but they do.

[Isuzu Inugami]

I came in expecting Slayers....AND I GOT SLAYERS!

Damn, episode was awesome from start to finish.

You are making me drool all over the keyboard.

See, izt frkzing ubp teh kgyz!

[Quarkboy]

Wait, it just finished airing about 10 minutes ago... did you watch it live? (I recorded it).

Yep. Live stream.

I'm not sure if this is breaking forum rules but...

Where the heck does TV Tokyo send out a live stream?

Or do you have your own Friio box hooked up to a media server over the internet or something?

There's a group that streams shows live from Japan. I have no idea how they do it, but they do.
They probably do it exactly how I said in my post: A dedicated friio box on a fiber connection hooked up to an encoder and a streaming box on a Gigabit server.

Since I'm fascinated by this, I'll explain (though maybe no one cares):
japanese digital broadcasts are copyprotected, but you can import some devices on the gray market that basically give you a USB (or internal) mpeg 2 transport stream as it's aired. This runs around 20 Mb/s at 1080i, so it's not possible to stream this over the internet for obvious reasons. So what you'd do is hook up this device to an on-the-fly encoder, probably baseline profile h.264, which can be done real time in software (I think), and then send this h.264 mp4 stream to a dedicated streaming server hosted somewhere with a massive pipe. Considering the demand, I'd say you'd need a 100 Mb/s at least, in total. Playback software can just use the latest Flash player which is fully h.264 compatible.
Assuming a decent quality stream of about 250 Kb/s, you could theoretically handle 400 simultaneous viewers.

I'm surprised that someone goes through all this trouble, though, to serve the anime RAW. Are there that many leachers so impatient they can't even wait an hour or 2 for raw torrents? Sheesh.

[CharUC0087]

Just finished watching the first episode up on Youtube. Sheer Awesomeness. It's like seeing friends you haven't seen in a long time and you find out they haven't changed. The Slayers are back.

[Suwako Moriya]

I'll have to re-watch this later, but so far I'm getting good vibes from this series. Actually truth be told I already re-watched the episode just for the heck of it. I have to feel sorry for poor Gourry, but at least he's getting plenty of practice with forging. This also serves as a good reminder as to why Lina Inverse is awesome. As for the new character, I have to wonder if the zipper is a blatant way of saying it has another form.

On a side note maybe my memory is off, but some of the music sounds familiar. I could be wrong, but I think they're reusing some of the older tunes in this new series. For the record this is an observation not a complaint. Since after all I still sometimes listen to tunes that are years old. A good tune is sometimes eternal.

[TalonG4]

I came in expecting Slayers....AND I GOT SLAYERS!

Damn, episode was awesome from start to finish.

Opening with Lina and Gourry taking on a bunch of pirates, we have the standard Lina stuff, tossing fireballs and going on about how awesome she is. Also we start a running gag of Gourry breaking his sword, since if you'll remember he no longer has the Sword of Light. So now wenever he breaks his sword he whips out an anvil and forges a new one.

Anyway, Amelia and Zel show up, they head back to port. Lina gets arrested for being Lina Inverse, and the standard Slayers catastrophe occurs, and it ends, of course, in a Dragon Slave, but...!

Ohh! Now you got me hanging on the edge of my seat. :P

I haven't been following the hype threads so I wasn't sure if the old gang would be back. Sounds cool.

[gundamseed]

Just watch the first ep , man it was great , made me feel young again lol.

[StudioZEL]

I watched the first episode! Loved it! ^_^

It's funny how these things work. Slayers TV has never had "great" animation in any of its seasons (save for the occasionally well animated spell), so it's funny that I go into this one and... it's the exact same thing as before! I'm actually glad it doesn't have top-of-the-line animation. More nostalgic that way.

And yes, most of the music is taken from previous seasons. The title catch is straight from Slayers NEXT. I didn't have time to go through and list all the other songs because I had to go to work (am at work right now) but I am so glad to hear Megumi Hayashibara sing Slayers songs again! They just have a certain feel to them that no other songs of hers have. ^^;;

Can't wait for the next episode! ^^

[Fencedude]

Oh yeah, a nifty tidbit.

While the Opening unfortunately doesn't have any Luna Inverse cameos, it does have someone else.

Towards the end when it flashes through the leads, you see Xelloss with someone standing in the background. That person is Greater Beast Zelas Metallium, his master.

Also, she has a very nice ass.

[wanfu2k1]

Yay more Slayers!! Man they sure took a long hiatus from making more of this great series.

[ndm]

That was a great episode! I'm so glad they're making a new series of Slayers, especially since it felt like they never stopped. I laughed pretty much the whole way through, which I haven't done for an anime episode since... I don't know when. Arresting Lina Inverse on suspicion of being Lina Inverse - hah! I think this'll definitely be my favourite series this season.

[djanss]

I watched the first episode! Loved it! ^_^

It's funny how these things work. Slayers TV has never had "great" animation in any of its seasons (save for the occasionally well animated spell), so it's funny that I go into this one and... it's the exact same thing as before! I'm actually glad it doesn't have top-of-the-line

Unlike other revival series (ahemtenchigraverobbing), this one not only gives us the original story, they also brought back the original Classic/Next's Takashi Watanabe as director.

Which is a considerable leap in the right direction, seeing as the Naga-OAV directors always overdid their comedy, and Junichi Sato was...just not right for the SlayersVerse, in "Premium".

[Leon_Belmont]

I dunno. I thought that thing at the end of the episode was rather stupid looking. But at least in general it does feel like it has the same core feel as the other series.

[jlazar]

Well, at first I thought I was watching One Piece. :)

It really does seem to be right out of the 90s and was fun to watch.

[meganly_chan]

I was so happy to see this episode, I almost started crying. It's like seeing old friends again who haven't really changed :_) (as someone else already said)

1) It may just be the version I was watching, but the colors were very vibrant, and the story was very smooth (like how it transitioned into the ending credits)

2) They haven't sold me on that digimon-like creature yet. It may take awhile if it happens at all. And that fish woman? Yeesh. I hope we don't see her a lot. She was way too over-the-top, kept going on and on about how "kami-sama" was punishing her.

3) Are they using the alphabet for each episode title? (First episode was A, next is B)

4) I'm a little confused on who the villian is supposed to be, but I'm sure we'll find out soon. I didn't get the "John" joke and apparently some characters who're in the novels may show up (only some of which I recognize)

[jlazar]

2) They haven't sold me on that digimon-like creature yet. It may take awhile if it happens at all.

I did notice a zipper on that one, so I doubt that us it's real appearance. Hopefully just a gag for a short time.

[martod]

Looks like Lina grew a fang over the past ten years, huh? Very nice.

If and when this gets licensed, I hope they can get the original dub cast back together. Veronica Taylor owns Amelia, and I just don't like Amelia's Japanese voice.

[something]

Episode 1:

- Holy crap. As retardedly obvious as it sounds... this is so, SO Slayers. The breast size jokes are right there in the very first screen. The OP is completely and utterly Slayers. But what blows me away the most is the art. The art is exactly how I remember. It's like I've been tossed back into the 1990's. The shading, the colors, the lines, it's all... wow. Seriously, are we sure they didn't jump in a time machine, animate this in ~1995 and then come back and air it now? My mind is completely blown. It's not that I necessarily like the older style better than modern animation (I don't), but it's just so damn cool that JC Staff did this. Nine thumbs up.
- Amelia~ I always liked her =D And Zelgadis~
- ...The fish people, however, are one piece of the Slayers universe I could totally do without. I always hated them. However, I love the melodrama when everyone realizes who Lina really is XD
- DROP THE HAMMER OF JUSTICE! God I love Amelia.　And now I guess we get some setup for what this latest incarnation will be about.
- "Lina Inverse. Wanted for being Lina Inverse." ...You know, that actually seems like a perfectly reasonable reason for arrest. :sd:
- AHAHAHAHA! "A turtle's mobility? Let's just keep running! Yaaaaaay!" "Crap, they figured out its weakness!" XD

Lina's still hungry and flatchested. Gourry's still dumb. Amelia still has a heart that burns with JUSTICE. Zelgadis still has an awesome voice (lol, just realized Li Xingke in Geass is the same guy). All I need is Xelloss, ASAP! Ah, this is going to be good.

If, that is, the stupid looking dragon slaving pokemon doesn't wind up being horribly annoying... I have major reservations about that thing. (Oh, and forget the haters, I loved TRY and would be very happy if we got more Filia)

[Kouji Tamino]

4) I'm a little confused on who the villian is supposed to be, but I'm sure we'll find out soon. I didn't get the "John" joke and apparently some characters who're in the novels may show up (only some of which I recognize)

The joke was that after struggling to remember the names of Amelia and Zelgadis, Gourry all of a sudden came up with a name for the inspector, someone he had never met in his life, as if he were an old friend as well.

Anyway, despite usually not watching shows in 'the evil format', I decided to cave in for at least the first episode in curiosity. That was amazing. The writers still have the touch, and it felt really consistent with what came before it. You'd never know that the entire cast and crew hadn't worked together like this in over a decade. I can't wait until this is licensed and I can see the rest. (Although I might watch the next episode or two, at the very least...)

[Fencedude]

4) I'm a little confused on who the villian is supposed to be, but I'm sure we'll find out soon. I didn't get the "John" joke and apparently some characters who're in the novels may show up (only some of which I recognize)

...that would probably be because we don't know who the main villain is yet. Slayers has NEVER revealed the "main villain" in the first episode. The Digimon ripoff will most likely end up being like Martina from NEXT.

[meganly_chan]

Ah, I believe I meant to say I was wondering WHO would be the villian, but typed something else instead. Color me a doofus :/

[martod]

Episode 1:

- Holy crap. As retardedly obvious as it sounds... this is so, SO Slayers. The breast size jokes are right there in the very first screen. The OP is completely and utterly Slayers. But what blows me away the most is the art. The art is exactly how I remember. It's like I've been tossed back into the 1990's. The shading, the colors, the lines, it's all... wow. Seriously, are we sure they didn't jump in a time machine, animate this in ~1995 and then come back and air it now? My mind is completely blown. It's not that I necessarily like the older style better than modern animation (I don't), but it's just so damn cool that JC Staff did this. Nine thumbs up.



There are some differences in the animation. I mentioned that Lina's fang is new(and it's inclusion is kind of strange since Lina's neither a loli nor overly cheerful). The detail and proportions of the animation seem more modern too. The atmosphere and humor are classic Slayers though. I like how Lina was furious that she didn't get to traditionally end the first episode by blowing everything away with Dragon Slave.

I'm hoping the humor is a little more evenly spread in this series. The original three tended to be "six episodes of silly humor, six eps of plot, six more eps of humor, then plot the rest of the way".

[HitokiriShadow]

As I suspected, Amelia is my favorite character. The first half was okay, amusing but not great, but I really enjoyed the latter portion, pretty much everything after Amelia and Zelgadis walked into the diner/pub/whatever. The whole thing with Line being arrested for the crime of being Lina and her friends discussing the charge and defending it in court was hilarious.

I haven't seen the previous Slayers series (I did see one of the movies though) but it definitely felt like a throwback to the 90s. The art looks pretty much the same as the screenshots and art I've seen of the previous series. Anyway, it's off to a decent start.

[MegsLeigh]

Ah, I believe I meant to say I was wondering WHO would be the villian, but typed something else instead. Color me a doofus :/

Supposedly, this series is being based off the second arc of the novels, which would make the villain either Dynast or someone with a Shabrangidu piece embedded in them since the final battle in the novel series is Lina and Gourry vs. a second Shabranigdu piece. It actually would make sense since so much of the opening centers around Lina and Gourry being among the ruins of Sairaag and fighting there, and also why Xelloss is so prominent. He had a nice role to play in getting Lina and Gourry into place for that final battle.

[Westlo]

Couldn't wipe the smile off my face while watching this... I really need to get around to watching the rest of Next and all of Try.. only seen the first series, parts of Try, ovas and every movie except the last one they did.

[thehadoken]

:D I am so glad they revived this series!!!!! It has been my favorite for years. I hope that if it gets licensed, they use they original TV series dub, with Lisa Oritz, Eric Stuart, Crispin Freeman, Veronica Taylor, and David Moo.

I hated the OVA and the Slayers Premium dub....

[StudioZEL]

:D I am so glad they revived this series!!!!! It has been my favorite for years. I hope that if it gets licensed, they use they original TV series dub, with Lisa Oritz, Eric Stuart, Crispin Freeman, Veronica Taylor, and David Moo.

I hated the OVA and the Slayers Premium dub....

I'm with you. I loved Eric Stuart as Gourry, and Crispen Freeman is awesome as Zelgadis! Lisa Ortiz is about the best Lina Inverse the English speaking world could hope for. ^^

[meganly_chan]

If it's not Lisa, it's not Lina :)

[Isuzu Inugami]

this is so, SO Slayers. The breast size jokes are right there in the very first screen.

You know, I have to give them props for actually animating Lina with a modest chest this time. It always annoyed me that she used to get all this grief over what was plainly a fairly decent endowment.


- "Lina Inverse. Wanted for being Lina Inverse." ...You know, that actually seems like a perfectly reasonable reason for arrest. :sd:

It certainly seemed to pose problems for her impromptu defense counsel.

-Gourry's not much of a blacksmith, is he....

the stupid looking dragon slaving pokemon

I hope that zipper gets used, and soon. Although I did get a kick out of it stealing Lina's signature scene (and how pissed off that made her.)

(Oh, and forget the haters, I loved TRY and would be very happy if we got more Filia)

Filia was great, I wouldn't mind an appearance by her either.

[something]

You know, I have to give them props for actually animating Lina with a modest chest this time. It always annoyed me that she used to get all this grief over what was plainly a fairly decent endowment.
I've actually considered making a thread devoted to that very phenomenon before. Heck maybe I have at some point. It's always odd when a character is the target of breast jokes as a running gag when... really they aren't flat. I know sometimes it's relative, but sheesh.

I hope that zipper gets used, and soon.
The fear being, though, that what's inside is even dumber looking.

Filia was great, I wouldn't mind an appearance by her either.
Great minds think alike =D

[thehadoken]

Does anyone know why the 3 previous seasons where not redubbed by Funimation like they originally said? Was the cast not avalible or something? Also who do you all think the new creature is? My guess is Xellos messing with them, but usually Mazoku cannot cast spells though, so maybe it is a different non Astral magical creature like an elf or a dragon?

[AstroNerdBoy]

Does anyone know why the 3 previous seasons where not redubbed by Funimation like they originally said?

There are only rumors. Some say it is the fault of Enoki (the actual license holder). Some say that the original audio tracks for the sound effects and music no longer exist, meaning a redub would be impossible. Basically, no one knows and FUNimation has never said (and likely never will).

Also who do you all think the new creature is? My guess is Xellos messing with them, but usually Mazoku cannot cast spells though, so maybe it is a different non Astral magical creature like an elf or a dragon?

Mazoku can cast spells, at least in the novels (Lina learned some spells by watching Xellos cast them). I guess the animes never made anything of that, showing the Mazoku as just being powerful.

That said, you know about as much as we do, which isn't much.

[amkaron]

My thoughts on an English dub of Slayers Revolution TV (based on the first episode):

1.) Keep as many New York/LA based cast members from the first 3 Slayers TV series as possible. Lisa Ortiz has to do Lina Inverse, Eric Stuart is top choice for Gourry (with Bill Rogers to do Gourry if Eric is not available), Veronica Taylor does Amelia, have an LA voice director direct Crispin Freeman for Zelgadis (Crispin can dub Zelgadis out of Headline West out of LA, while Headline Studios can be used for the New York based actors.) As for Xellos, I don't know if David Moo is the best choice (sure he plays Xellos on the TV side, but maybe others can do a better job?)

2.) Any other good New York VAs to take over as understudies if the main choices are not available for the roles? Suggestions encouraged. (What if Crispin Freeman cannot do Zelgadis because of union/non-union complications? I believe that Crispin does exclusive union work in L.A. these days.-- so maybe credit goes to a non-union professional name?)

3.) Any thoughts on incorporating some of the Houston/Dallas VA scene into this season of the TV series-- I think it would be perfect to have Lisa Ortiz do Lina Inverse, but have Cynthia Martinez do the voice of the creature that everyone is talking about (according to Anime News Network encyclopedia, the creature's name is Pokota.) it would be perfect. :)

Just my two cents....

[thehadoken]

I know that Mazoku cannot cast spells, what I meant was that Xellos did cast one (Blast Bomb) because he had the aid of the Talismans.

[ndm]

Episode two was another great Slayers episode. Probably not as laugh-out-loud funny as episode 1, but at least one thing made me very happy - they remembered Lina's talismans (which get a very nice animation sequence when she charges them up). Personally I expected Lina to then cut loose with a Ragna blade but instead we get a super-charged dragon slave, which is still pretty satisfying. (She can still cast ragna blade after the end of Try, right?)

On the down side, it appears that the zipper on the Black Star pokemon is actually an opening to a pocket universe or something that it stores things in and not a costume zipper at all. So that's what it'll look like for the whole series. Still, since I didn't see it in the preview for the next episode I'm going to hope that it won't show up every episode. Oh, and it comes with a small bonus - the sword of light is back, or least a reasonable facsimile thereof.

[djanss]

Oh, and it comes with a small bonus - the sword of light is back, or least a reasonable facsimile thereof.

(Refresh my utter wiping of all memories of Try, what happened to the Sword of Light again?--
ISTR it being of the villain's necessary Needed-Relics, but can't recall whether it survived.)

[Fencedude]

Oh, and it comes with a small bonus - the sword of light is back, or least a reasonable facsimile thereof.

(Refresh my utter wiping of all memories of Try, what happened to the Sword of Light again?--
ISTR it being of the villain's necessary Needed-Relics, but can't recall whether it survived.)

It was returned to Dark Star's universe by Canal Volfeed.

[lorddream]

On the down side, it appears that the zipper on the Black Star pokemon is actually an opening to a pocket universe or something that it stores things in and not a costume zipper at all. So that's what it'll look like for the whole series. Still, since I didn't see it in the preview for the next episode I'm going to hope that it won't show up every episode.

Yeah, I'm really not a big fan of the pokemon thing either... but I have to admit, I thought the scene where it meets Lina was one of the funniest parts of the episode.

[something]

Episode 2:

- Dragon Slave to the face at point blank range would have hurt. :sd: Looks like the premise is shaping up. They want to arrest her because someone has been Dragon Slaving their mage tanks, and who could that possibly be but Lina?
- ...Somehow, it seems painfully appropriate for Pokota to be voiced by the same seiyuu as Black Star in Soul Eater -_- On the other hand, Black Star got pretty awesome, so one can only hope the same happens with this thing.
- Oh shit yeah, an amplified Dragon Slave. Stupid little Pokota, take that. But huh, it seems he's in that form against his will. And inside the zipper... Sword of Light!
- Only a replica... and Pokota created both it and the mage tanks.

Good second ep, things continue to move pretty quickly. Yay Slayers.

[bender]

Oh yay! I only discovered this series existed last night(Really behind on my anime news) and watched the first two eps as soon as I could get them.

Loving it, seriously nostalgic fun, even if the first half of ep one was a trifle expositionary and unfunny for my liking. Looking forward to seeing what comes next.

Anyone know how many eps we can expect yet?

[Suwako Moriya]

Anyone know how many eps we can expect yet?

Likely 26 just like the other series. Heck the titles of are going in Alphabetical order so far and since there's 26 letters....

[Suwako Moriya]

Ah Slayers is still Slayers. Although I'm left wondering what the true form of the Tiny Creature. I hope it isn't Pikachu.

[AstroNerdBoy]

As I mentioned in my blog (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/07/slayers-revolution-02.html), my only real complaint with the episode was that the Digimon-like Pokota survived an amplified Dragon Slave. I can't tell, but it looked like Pokota emerged from within a rock after the spell was over. Is that how you guys saw it?

For me, the best moment (and there were many good moments) happened when Lina threatened to turn kingdoms to ash and go on a rampage. *lol* That's the Lina I know and love. :cool:

[Fudce]

Anyone know how many eps we can expect yet?

Likely 26 just like the other series. Heck the titles of are going in Alphabetical order so far and since there's 26 letters....

Hmm, so that means episode 24 will focus on Xellos, and episode 26 will have Zelgadis saving the day?

[ndm]

But huh, it seems he's in that form against his will.

That's the thing that will probably end up redeeming him for me. He looks stupid, but that actually fits because he's cursed into that stupid looking shape and he doesn't like it much either. So there's presumably not a whole race of these weird looking little things with arms for ears, just him. I hope he turns out to be a normal-looking human when he finally gets uncursed.

Extra bonus points go to episode 2 for also showing Lina's forehead dots. I like it when stuff like that get remembered.

[Suwako Moriya]

Hmm, so that means episode 24 will focus on Xellos, and episode 26 will have Zelgadis saving the day?

Maybe thrown in Sylphiel. Uh okay I'm probably asking for too much.

[ndm]

This new series has inspired me to go back and rewatch Slayers Next, and I just noticed an interesting bit of trivia. The "Ferious Breed" spell Lina casts to summon the cloud of birds in this episode is actually the same spell she used in Next to summon a dove to break a hole in a subspace barrier in episode 9. I didn't bother to remember the spell name before since she never used it again until now.

[Suwako Moriya]

He looks stupid, but that actually fits because he's cursed into that stupid looking shape and he doesn't like it much either. So there's presumably not a whole race of these weird looking little things with arms for ears, just him.

Two words, Frog Prince. Ie just because the prince was cursed to be a frog didn't make him the only frog. I'm sure now some will be worried because I brought this up, but I felt I needed to just so people could be prepared.

[Fudce]

He looks stupid, but that actually fits because he's cursed into that stupid looking shape and he doesn't like it much either. So there's presumably not a whole race of these weird looking little things with arms for ears, just him.

Two words, Frog Prince. Ie just because the prince was cursed to be a frog didn't make him the only frog. I'm sure now some will be worried because I brought this up, but I felt I needed to just so people could be prepared.

That's very true, but think of it this way.. the little green zipperboy is nowhere near as bad as the fish people.

[something]

That's very true, but think of it this way.. the little green zipperboy is nowhere near as bad as the fish people.
I don't know if anything can be as bad as fish people.

[Fudce]

That's very true, but think of it this way.. the little green zipperboy is nowhere near as bad as the fish people.
I don't know if anything can be as bad as fish people.

The beaver-people of Suikoden V came close, but I'd have to agree.

[ndm]

That's very true, but think of it this way.. the little green zipperboy is nowhere near as bad as the fish people.
I don't know if anything can be as bad as fish people.

I actually find the fish people slightly amusing in a horrific kind of way, especially when Lina actually cooks and eats them. :eek: I think actually my main problem with this new creature is that his face and eyes are drawn in a completely different style to every other person's in the show so he looks out of place. If his eyes weren't round circles I'd probably like him more.

[thehadoken]

Spoilers:








My biggest question currently is the replica Sword of Light. The original was part of Dark Star's power, so how can one duplicate that? For that matter, why not just skip the sword and go with a replica Bow of Light? That was freaky powerful...(The sword is my favorite though!)

Is it a part of Shabranigdo? Potoka said he made it, but how?? Maybe he got some knowlege from the Clair Bible or something. What if it is has some of Ceiphied's power or some other Shinzoku? Could it have a connection to Luna?

[thehadoken]

Sorry for the double post, but all fear Gourry the Jellyfish tamer!

[something]

Episode 3:

- New charges against Lina: abducting pets. Wiser returns and arrests her because... she's Lina Inverse!
- So as before she sets out to prove her innocence. And as before, Wiser assumes absolutely everything she does is a ruse to deceive him. I wonder how long they can work this particular joke? It's still funny, but it's only got another episode or so, at most, before it's worn out.
- Lina is the queen of throwing her friends under the bus. Gourry becomes monster jellyfish bait. Amelia and Zel are left to deal with a hoard of Lesser Demons.
- Finally Lina (until just now still chained to Wiser) reaches the headquarters of the mastermind. It's some dude using the pets as ingredients for the perfect chimera. He thinks Lina won't attack since they used to be innocent little pets, but he doesn't know Lina very well. :sd:
- He brings out a magic resistant Death Chimera, but Gourry ends things pretty quickly with his now domesticated giant jellyfishsquidmonsterthing friend. Also, a shot of Amelia and Zel that looks pretty bad if taken out of context.
- Mad scientist says he can't be arrested, he has the backing of a prince of Rubina--ahaha oh god they're so doing this on purpose. Zel, Amelia... I'm so sorry.

And Wiser might not be the bubblebrain he appears. It's possible Lina is giving him too much credit, but her conclusion is that he set this all up - if he framed Lina and had her reveal the real perp in the process of redeeming herself, all the easier for him to bypass the guy's royal protection.

Good episode! Man these just seem to go by so fast. But it's capturing quite well, so far, everything I liked about Slayers. Definitely looking forward to more, particularly getting into the main plot.

[Fencedude]

- Mad scientist says he can't be arrested, he has the backing of a prince of Rubina--ahaha oh god they're so doing this on purpose. Zel, Amelia... I'm so sorry.

And Wiser might not be the bubblebrain he appears. It's possible Lina is giving him too much credit, but her conclusion is that he set this all up - if he framed Lina and had her reveal the real perp in the process of redeeming herself, all the easier for him to bypass the guy's royal protection.

Good episode! Man these just seem to go by so fast. But it's capturing quite well, so far, everything I liked about Slayers. Definitely looking forward to more, particularly getting into the main plot.

Wiser is surprisingly awesome (possibly because he's SOLID FUCKING SNAKE), and I'm interested in seeing how him and Rubinawhatever works into the overall plot (because you know it will, despite 99% of the episode being classic slayers dicking around, something will be relevant.

Looks like its back to Pokota next time, and hopefully Xelloss will finally deign to show up.

[MegsLeigh]

Wiser is surprisingly awesome (possibly because he's SOLID FUCKING SNAKE), and I'm interested in seeing how him and Rubinawhatever works into the overall plot (because you know it will, despite 99% of the episode being classic slayers dicking around, something will be relevant.

Looks like its back to Pokota next time, and hopefully Xelloss will finally deign to show up.

Actually, take a look at the summary of the 10th novel from QP-Diana's site. Wizer Freion originates from there and this episode actually works into the plot of that novel.

[StudioZEL]

oh god they're so doing this on purpose. Zel, Amelia... I'm so sorry.

I know... I couldn't stop laughing at how bad that was. I mean... surely someone noticed...

... the shops'll happen soon. Just you watch.

[Suwako Moriya]

Gourry the tamer of Jellyfish! In any case I wonder if/when Wiser will expand his role beyond being a joke character.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Episode 3:

- New charges against Lina: abducting pets. Wiser returns and arrests her because... she's Lina Inverse!
- So as before she sets out to prove her innocence. And as before, Wiser assumes absolutely everything she does is a ruse to deceive him. I wonder how long they can work this particular joke? It's still funny, but it's only got another episode or so, at most, before it's worn out.

Actually, the joke got old in this episode for me.

- Lina is the queen of throwing her friends under the bus. Gourry becomes monster jellyfish bait. Amelia and Zel are left to deal with a hoard of Lesser Demons.

Yeah, but that's just Lina. ^_^

Good episode! Man these just seem to go by so fast. But it's capturing quite well, so far, everything I liked about Slayers. Definitely looking forward to more, particularly getting into the main plot.

I'm looking forward to the main plot as well, especially since I read that it appears the anime will actually pick up stories (modified to have Zel and Amelia in them of course) from the novels #9+ (and MegsLeigh's post would seem to confirm this, at least in part).

For those interested, my further waste of space on the episode (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/07/slayers-revolution-03.html) (with purty pictures).

[Elaniel]

I really loved this episode, it was very funny. Probably one of my top 10 episodes of Slayers.
Lina throwing her friends under the bus was really funny, poor Gourry. Plus the lack of regard from Amelia and Zel "Oh well," and then they flew off.

Megumi did really well this episode, and shows why she's such a top-notch VA.
When Lina threw Wiser and she got pulled along was a gag I knew was coming, but still pretty funny.

I really am loving this new season.

[MegsLeigh]

(and MegsLeigh's post would seem to confirm this, at least in part).

*sweatdrop* Just Megs. You know, the one who's been about for years. Stupid forum changes... *mutters and goes and tries to fix it*

[something]

*sweatdrop* Just Megs. You know, the one who's been about for years. Stupid forum changes... *mutters and goes and tries to fix it*
You have to PM Chris. You can't fix it in your own settings.

[lilgumba]

Actually, the joke got old in this episode for me.


I'm looking forward to the main plot as well, especially since I read that it appears the anime will actually pick up stories (modified to have Zel and Amelia in them of course) from the novels #9+ (and MegsLeigh's post would seem to confirm this, at least in part).


I would have to agree that I joke got old fast. I hope it doesn't get repeated again and we move on to the real plot of the show.

I did get a kick out of Lina sacrificing Gourry. It kind of reminded me of the time when Lina sacrificed Naga during the OVA I believe.

[zrdb]

Totally fucking awesome-it's like Lina & company never left-I was doubtful that this series would ever even happen. Glad to be proven wrong!

[StudioZEL]

Just watched the RAW for 4. Good stuff again! XD Loved Zelgadis in this episode!

Episode 5 preview spoiler: Xellos. Finally!

[Fencedude]

- NO BUST
- Lina violates numerous animal rights laws in her attempt to track down Pokota (whom she blames for her recent troubles)
- lol and Lina manipulates Zel into helping her out. And Amelia is very much against both their methods.
- Zel manages to catch Pokota, lol. Anesthetics in the Banana. Zel's returning to his villain roots!
- Oh man, Amelia's extra special awesome in this episode. Absolutely adorable. And Pokota seems very vulnerable to her charms. Or maybe Amelia's just found his wavelength. FOR JUSTICE! Off to destroy the Mage Tanks!
- awww...he's riding on her head. Thats just so cute.
- The bit with the two random girls running from the Mage Tank was oddly well animated. How very random.
- lol, its a fake mage tank with Lina and Gourry inside. NEWTYPE FLASH!
- Her Snow Rabbit!
- And Amelia totally misunderstands.
- WHERE'S GOURRY!?

Not bad, but very fillerish. NEEDS MORE XELLOS.

YES NEXT TIME HE SHOWS UP FINALLY. Also seems the real villains will finally put in an appearance.

[thehadoken]

Episode 4 was great. Zel poisoning the food ws priceless. Apparently Amelia can puch harder that a cannonball too! Her punch knocked Zel to the ground and he looses several teeth, a cannon does nothing. :D

Gourry rotates the cannon for no reason at all, and I loved Potoka and Amelia's friendship.

On another note, did anyone else realize the Goura Nova's hilt is different from the previous 3 seasons? I know that it is a replica, but still.

I can't wait for the next episode!

[AstroNerdBoy]

My review is here (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/07/slayers-revolution-04.html). There was a lot of good stuff here (I love Lina on a rampage) and it appears there are more minor plot table setting elements being laid. With Xellos coming in the next episode, I figure more plot stuff will come into play.

[meganly_chan]

I loved episode 4 the most of the ones aired so far. There was no "Lina! You're under arrest!" Wiser drama (he really annoys me), so the characters were free to roam, be wacky and be themselves. Amelia was quite brutal towards poor Zel - I couldn't stop laughing :) This is the Slayers I know and love. But I still don't like Pokota!

[AstroNerdBoy]

Yeah, the Digimon is pretty annoying thus far. I'm hopeful for something to actually turn this around since Pokota seemingly is going to be around a while. At least that fish-woman hasn't shown up again. With her getting profiled in Dragon, I thought for sure she'd be showing up again.

[something]

Episode 4:

- Well, killing everything until you find Pokota works, I guess. But what was really amusing is how Lina knows exactly how to tempt Zel. And he knows he's being manipulated. And he does it anyway.
- And Amelia is utterly awesome in this episode. She needs more, more and more screentime because she's definitely my favorite character. Might as well savor what she gets now though, because I'm sure her scenes will get shorter and farther between as the show moves ahead.
- Haha, and it's Lina and Gourry in the fake tank. Lina doesn't go very easy on Amelia >_>
- The champion of justice blows up the town's water supply...

Alright, so at the end we have moved absolutely not one inch from where we were at the start of the episode, but it had a lot of Amelia goodness, and thus it was a worthwhile episode.

And, next ep... FUCK YEAH XELLOS! <3

[thehadoken]

Saw the RAW for episode 5 and it was good. Looks like a certain Red Priest from season 1 may still be alive...The episode had many twists, and I think I heard the words Zanifar Armor from the Cat-Man.

[Suwako Moriya]

So I guess for once we can consider Lina the uh technical villain of the episode. Amelia was pretty awesome with dedication to justice this time around. As for Pokota, his aspect of the story needs to seriously start moving forward. Especially if he's going to be a major element in the series.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Where exactly is Ruvinagald supposed to be? I was looking at the map on KanzakaDex (which while a great resource, is far from complete) and it isn't there. Yet I'm lead to believe that Ruvinagald is in the novels. The only place I could put it is the Alliance of Coastal States.

Update: my blog on episode 5 (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/08/slayers-revolution-05.html). ^_^

[Fencedude]

Episode 5

- Still chasing Pokota!
- lol Zelgadis using his hair as throwing knives
- FUCK YEAH XELLOS! And he has Pokota
- Sore wa himitsu desu!
- A town shrouded in mist and covered with plants. And its Pokota's birthplace
- lol Pokota takes up residence on Amelia's head.
- Lina warns Pokota not to mess with Xellos
- Taforashia, created by people from Sairaag! Whoa...
- The town was devastated by a disease, one wizard tried to stop it but couldn't before the town vanished. According to Pokota it was by the town's own will...
- PHIBRIZZO!
- All the citizens are in stasis until a cure is found, which has been done. But they can't find the wizard who cast the sealing spell.
- And the wizard is...REZO THE RED PRIEST! Well, damn.
- But if Rezo were dead the seal would have been lifted...
- Pokota's real name! Prince Posel Corba Taforashia! Not that surprising, really.
- Enter the villains!ount Duclis, the cat guy. Cioconda, a Marquis from Ruvinagald and Ozel, a maid.
- Zanafar Armor!
- And Xellos is on Duclis' side. Thats not good...
- Of course, having Xellos as your ally is a mixed blessing.
- Claire Bible!

[CharUC0087]

You forgot to mention that the assasian known as Zuuma was mentioned at the end of the episode. Zuuma was a character who appeared in Slayers Novel 4. His target of course is Lina Inverse. Zuuma also appears in the opening credit animation.

[Fudce]

You forgot to mention that the assasian known as Zuuma was mentioned at the end of the episode. Zuuma was a character who appeared in Slayers Novel 4. His target of course is Lina Inverse. Zuuma also appears in the opening credit animation.

Of course, that is something I did not know, or something that I WANTED to know. Learn to use spoiler tags, or learn to keep your mouth shut.

[musouka]

Of course, that is something I did not know, or something that I WANTED to know. Learn to use spoiler tags, or learn to keep your mouth shut.

Those aren't spoilers.

[Fencedude]

You forgot to mention that the assasian known as Zuuma was mentioned at the end of the episode.

Why would I mention something that I didn't know, other than his name? Please do not volunteer extra information. We don't need to know.

[Fudce]

Of course, that is something I did not know, or something that I WANTED to know. Learn to use spoiler tags, or learn to keep your mouth shut.

Those aren't spoilers.

It's a spoiler, albeit a borderline one, but it's definitly a spoiler in my opinion. More to the point it's a spoiler out of any episode subthread.

[Fencedude]

Of course, that is something I did not know, or something that I WANTED to know. Learn to use spoiler tags, or learn to keep your mouth shut.

Those aren't spoilers.

Its the principle of the thing. We don't need people waltzing into the thread, messing up the posting order, and "assisting" us by answering questions we didn't ask. Sure, it wasn't really a spoiler THIS time, but what about the next time?

Learning proper posting ettiquette now helps everyone.

[Fudce]

Of course, that is something I did not know, or something that I WANTED to know. Learn to use spoiler tags, or learn to keep your mouth shut.

Those aren't spoilers.

Its the principle of the thing. We don't need people waltzing into the thread, messing up the posting order, and "assisting" us by answering questions we didn't ask. Sure, it wasn't really a spoiler THIS time, but what about the next time?

Learning proper posting ettiquette now helps everyone.

Definitly. I am very touchy about the possibilty of spoilers ever since somebody felt the need to spoil the very dramatic and unexpected events of the latter volumes of a current Funimation series, in a post talking about the first volume.

[musouka]

Its the principle of the thing. We don't need people waltzing into the thread, messing up the posting order, and "assisting" us by answering questions we didn't ask. Sure, it wasn't really a spoiler THIS time, but what about the next time?

Well, yeah, I guess, but it just seems a little strange to see people jumping on someone for "this is a guy's name and occupation" considering there are MASSIVE spoilers concerning Zuuma that people would be genuinely pissed off to be spoiled about. Considering CharUC0087 didn't drop any of those, I just don't think the lesson in posting etiquette is needed in this case.

Either way, I guess.

[Fudce]

Its the principle of the thing. We don't need people waltzing into the thread, messing up the posting order, and "assisting" us by answering questions we didn't ask. Sure, it wasn't really a spoiler THIS time, but what about the next time?

Well, yeah, I guess, but it just seems a little strange to see people jumping on someone for "this is a guy's name and occupation" considering there are MASSIVE spoilers concerning Zuuma that people would be genuinely pissed off to be spoiled about. Considering CharUC0087 didn't drop any of those, I just don't think the lesson in posting etiquette is needed in this case.

Either way, I guess.

The best posting etiquite in the situation would be:
If in doubt, keep it withing spoiler tags.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Getting back on topic, I for one am VERY glad to see Zuuma and Duclis (with his Zanaffar Armor) in this series. When I read the novels from TP, I was amazed at how much the original Slayers anime had changed things. Now that we actually get to see them in animated form, I'm pretty excited. ^_^

[Fudce]

Oh definitly, I enjoyed episode five of Slayers, maybe not to the same level as those who've read the novels, but on a different level, experiencing things for the first time.

(and yes, i've replied to a different post than Astro's, just to get the order of posts back on track. We're discussing episode 5, so it should be part of the episode 5 subthread)

[jlazar]

Maybe my tastes has changed, but I'm having a hard time watching this series. Just doesn't seem to be same enjoyable experience any more.

I guess I'd have to pull my old dvds and see if I still enjoy the earlier series or not to tell if it's my tastes that suck or that this new series sucks. :)

[StudioZEL]

Maybe my tastes has changed, but I'm having a hard time watching this series. Just doesn't seem to be same enjoyable experience any more.

I guess I'd have to pull my old dvds and see if I still enjoy the earlier series or not to tell if it's my tastes that suck or that this new series sucks. :)

Exact opposite for me, this is the most fun I've had watching an anime in a while! ^_^

[CharUC0087]

Sorry my last post set off a firestorm of controversy. I wasn't aware that any of my comments were spoilers. I just thought since we were discussing episode 5 that me mentioning Zuuma was valid. So should I refrain from saying anything else relating to the Slayers novels that might have an impact on the show? Anyway back to talking about the episode, It was great seeing Xellos again and finally the plot gets underway. It's so great to have Lina and company back after all this time. Watching the next Slayers Revolution episode each week is the highpoint of my week.

[CharUC0087]

Getting back on topic, I for one am VERY glad to see Zuuma and Duclis (with his Zanaffar Armor) in this series. When I read the novels from TP, I was amazed at how much the original Slayers anime had changed things. Now that we actually get to see them in animated form, I'm pretty excited. ^_^

Ditto to that. It's great to see some of the characters from the novels animated. Dulcis certainly didn't disappoint. He'll especially kick some more ass when the armor is completed.
Zuuma was one of my favorite characters from the novels. I here from one of the interviews with Hajime Kanazaka that Slayers Revolution will finally reveal the orgin of Zuuma.

[Fencedude]

So should I refrain from saying anything else relating to the Slayers novels that might have an impact on the show?

Correct. Pretty much if something wasn't in the previous animated works, don't' bring it up unless its clearly spoiler tagged.

[something]

Episode 5:

- YES! I've been waiting for this since episode one. I love Xellos! And his intro is awesome. Catching Pokota in one hand and Zel's hair attack in the other. <3
- "Sore wa... hi-mi-tsu!" I've so wanted to hear that again.
- Only a few episodes in and I already feel like this is it. This is where the show actually begins. Leave it to Xellos to get the plot going.
- Oh good, I have obviously SEEN all of Slayers and remember the name Rezo, but damnit, the details weren't coming to mind. Thank goodness Amelia asked for me. :sd: But the implication is that he's still alive... interesting.
- So the villains show up. Can only hope they're just temporary villains and something better is waiting, because they're really, really unimpressive. Ozel is the only one I'm remotely interested in. But it seems of course that Xellos is working for them... so far as he sees fit anyway, which will bite them in the ass before long. I love the look he gave the Marquis, because it says oh so much.

Xellos just took this show from "amusing" to "must have next episode". Here's hoping he shows up again as soon as possible. Finally things are getting started!

[something]

So should I refrain from saying anything else relating to the Slayers novels that might have an impact on the show?
It would be appreciated, yes. Only events that happened in the Slayers Revolution anime from episodes 1 to 5 should be showing up in the episode 5 subthread. Well, and since this is a sequel and seems to be hearkening back to earlier seasons, previous Slayers anime is legit too. But anything that has not been animated to date would be off limits. Even if someone has no intention of spoiling, just dropping hints can have the same effect.

Also, please note this from the top post:
3) Don't use the blue "Post Reply" button because it causes your reply not to correctly inherit the subject line of the post you're replying to. Just click "Quote" to the post you want to reply to.

I've inserted the subject line back for my post, but there's now a whole host of replies within the episode 5 subthread that have the default subject line, which means that someone reading the thread has no idea (particularly in flat view) if they're safe or not. They may be on episode 3 or 4 and here we are in 5, but the subject line is wrong and they can't tell without reading the post ...and then it's often too late. It only takes one post with an incorrect subject line to create a whole string of replies with the wrong subject unless someone notices what's going on and fixes it. But I can only fix it in my reply, not anyone elses'

[meganly_chan]

I admit I was having some issues warming up to this new series. That worried me because I'm such a huge Slayers fan :( But episode 5 was awesome, and I think now it shouldn't be a problem unless they pull something. Now that we know Pokota is probably human, he's less of an annoying Digimon-wannabe for me.

And Zuuma! I remember him from the Tokyopop translated novels. Lina's got a serious problem on her hands now :)

Are they implying that Rezo isn't dead? I was a little confused.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Are they implying that Rezo isn't dead? I was a little confused.

I speculated in my blog that this isn't the actual Rezo, but it may be another copy of Rezo. Then again, maybe Rezo's connection to Ruby Eye is the key here. It is all speculation at this point but we'll see where the writers take things. ^_^

[thehadoken]

Episode 5 was great. It is good to finally see the Zanifar armor.

My biggest question is how did Potoka make a replica of the Sword of Light? Wasn't the Sword of Light part of Darkstar's power, and therefor more of a Mazoku? How can one replicate that?

Also I would have thought that Amelia would have known that Rezo created Zel's chimera body by now.

Gourry needs a new sword soon because right now he is by far the least effective on the team. Maybe we will get to see the Blast Sword.

[Fudce]

Also, please note this from the top post:
3) Don't use the blue "Post Reply" button because it causes your reply not to correctly inherit the subject line of the post you're replying to. Just click "Quote" to the post you want to reply to.

It would appear that people are ignoring this request still, so I figured I should rehighlight it.

To explain to the people who may not be aware, but there are two methods of viewing the forums posts at Anime on DVD. There is the flat mode (which is the forum default) and the threaded mode, which a lot of the older-guard use. I personally prefer flat mode, but I know Something swears by the threaded mode, and I have learned to respect his (and other peoples) choice in doing so.

The threaded mode relies on the subject headers to show a single post at a time, but is advantageous in continuing seperate lines of discussion in the same thread. Here is an example:

Discussion: Fudce
|-Re: Fudce (discussion about who he is)
||-Re: Re: Fudce (further discussion into who he is)
|||-Re: Re: Re: Fudce (continued discussion on the first point)
||-Re: Re: Fudce (a second discussion furthering the point of who Fudce is)
|-Fudce's Oddities (Somebody bringing up a different discussion based on the oddities of Fudce)
||-Re: Fudce's Oddities (continued discussion on his oddities)


That is how it might look in a threaded view, but in a flat view, those posts could be layed out in a very different order. The Oddities post could be the third post in a subject for instance, and contain spoilers into what oddities I have which somebody who was only discussing who I am wouldn't want to know.

[something]

It would appear that people are ignoring this request still, so I figured I should rehighlight it.
The real solution lies in removing the broken Post Reply button entirely, but it doesn't seem like that'll happen. Boo. (But yeah, it'd be nice if people took the time to learn proper posting...)

[AstroNerdBoy]

It would appear that people are ignoring this request still, so I figured I should rehighlight it.
The real solution lies in removing the broken Post Reply button entirely, but it doesn't seem like that'll happen. Boo. (But yeah, it'd be nice if people took the time to learn proper posting...)

Actually, what you guys are requesting is an unusual form of posting (outside of the old UseNet). In essence, what you guys are doing is to basically start new threads within the confines of a single thread. Then you are expecting everyone to just pay attention to whatever you've changed the title to. My experiences are that very few people pay attention to whatever folks change the message title to within a thread because the root of the thread is what the conversation is about.

Also, different forums around the internet have different rules. Many forums get VERY tetchy when someone double-posts, enough so that people can be banned for making them. So, if you have someone who wants to respond to multiple postings, they have to do so within a single reply post. Thus, most people, like myself, tend to defer to a single-post reply because that never gets you into trouble. :sweat:

Anyway, the flat style is the default and is on almost all boards, which is likely why there is almost alway a "no double posting" rule on most boards. Some boards don't even offer a choice of threaded style, so basically, we have a situation where people are magically expected to radically change their style of posting. I realize that UseNet used threaded style (and I admit to still using that form of posting when I'm on the newsgroups) but forums aren't newsgroups, which is why the flat style came into existence at all.

*sigh*

Well, I've derailed this long enough. Back to discussing Slayers REVOLUTION, y'all. ^_^

[Fudce]

Actually, what you guys are requesting is an unusual form of posting (outside of the old UseNet). In essence, what you guys are doing is to basically start new threads within the confines of a single thread. Then you are expecting everyone to just pay attention to whatever you've changed the title to. My experiences are that very few people pay attention to whatever folks change the message title to within a thread because the root of the thread is what the conversation is about.
It isn't just for the threaded people, it's for the people who use flat too. It's good etiquite to have the subject header matching what your post is about, for instance if you are talking about episode 5, your header should say "episode 5" or something like that. I used to be of the same mindset as you, but I eventually fell into line and decided to respect the way things are done and the reasons behind them.

Also, different forums around the internet have different rules.
As do individual posts, and this post's rules are outlined in the original post :P

I realize that UseNet used threaded style (and I admit to still using that form of posting when I'm on the newsgroups) but forums aren't newsgroups, which is why the flat style came into existence at all.
Regardless, threaded mode has been available on Anime on DVD since its start, and a lot of the people who have been with AoD since its genesis still use it.

Well, I've derailed this long enough. Back to discussing Slayers REVOLUTION, y'all. ^_^
Agreed. But with more people following the requests to keep things ordered and in its correct place.

[something]

Actually, what you guys are requesting is an unusual form of posting (outside of the old UseNet).
I've never touched UseNet in my life, and there's nothing unusual about asking someone to keep the subject line when they post. If you're posting about episode 5, your subject line should say episode 5, so people who are on episode 4 know not to read it. This is even more important in flat, where you have no choice but to scroll past posts about other episodes to get to the ones you want to read. And if each episode gets essentially its own subthread, any user has the option of switching to Threaded/Hybrid and picking out exactly what episode they want to discuss - quite useful in a variety of ways, especially if they're coming in late, or want to confirm something about a specific episode after the fact (I've done both countless times).

It's a lot better than spamming a forum with a thread for every episode, because the precision and ease of doing that is undermined by the sheer threadspam it would cause. And there are too many series being discussed at once to give each their own subforum, at least with the way subforums work here. If there were some way for a "thread" to instead lead instead to a sort of meta-topic with topics under it... well regardless that's not how any software we've used works, so we can't do it and have to approximate it by taking three and a half seconds to be conscious of what we're posting instead.

You seem to understand the kind of posting being asked for here, so please just try to do it, at least in series discussion threads (it's significantly less important everywhere else). Plenty of posters here (threaded, hybrid or flat) do it all the time. It takes little effort and can benefit in multiple ways everyone regardless of viewing mode. And we've *finally* got the threaded cap removed on threads, so now we don't even need to restart them after 'x' posts, which is one less "accommodation" needed.

[StudioZEL]

It's funny, for some reason after watching this episode I got the weird feeling that this is more of a sequel to Next than it is to Try, despite the Try events that it adheres to.

Either way, this anime has made my summer. ^^

My favorite part of Episode 5 has to be the part that went:

Gourry: Then, he must have been a nice guy huh?

Lina: We FOUGHT him Gourry!!

[Fudce]

Gourry: Then, he must have been a nice guy huh?

Lina: We FOUGHT him Gourry!!

Gourry's stupidity is legendary :)

[Suwako Moriya]

Seems this episode had multiple references to past seasons with perhaps the major one being Rezo. In any case with Xellos now officially part of the plot it's clear things will just get more hectic.

[thehadoken]

Saw the episode 6 RAW and it seemed funny. It is nice to see the use of Rock Golums again. A good fun olympic episode. The Dog and Cat creatures were distracting though. I can't tell if the cat is a guy or girl too. It looks like a guy, but sounds like a gal. It is disturbing to see Amelia's dad in just his underwear though...

[something]

Episode 6:

- Flan and Zollan, our friendly neighbood clueless antagonist buffoons, no doubt. Too many goodamn animal characters - that's one of the main pet peeves I have with the Slayers universe. They're sent to get the Sword of Light for whatshisname in the Zanafar armor.
- The crew arrives in Gongoro village, where everyone seems to worship, uh, balls. The story here is that the village split into three (Gon, Go and Ro) over infighting arising from the traditional ball rolling festival. Long story short Lina and company are recruited with promises of food, blah blah etc, plot put on hold for a week.
- No surprise, Go recruits Pokota. And Flan and Zollan join up with Ro.
- And apparently good old king Phil was a multi-time ball rolling champ for Gon. :sd: Now Amelia is fired up too.
- Nice Amelia eyecatch... well until it turns into something else >_>
- The race begins and they come to the final battlegrounds simultaneously. Kinda boring so far but watching Zel take a ball to the head and not flinch was amusing.
- Everything ends basically as expected, with momentary reconciliation among the factions crushed in an avalanche of balls.

Some incredibly annoying one-off characters from the village make this a less than optimal episode, and Flan and Zollan are supremely uninteresting. I kinda hope new, more interesting, antagonists are introduced very, very early because so far every one is a complete wash except potentially Ozel, who I'm not really expecting much from since she's just one of the lackeys.

Guess I need to put a lot of faith in this Zuuma, and hope Xellos shows up way more than usual.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Yeah, episode 6 (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/08/slayers-revolution-06.html) is basically a complete waste and an example of bad filler. *sigh* Well, not every episode can be a home run or even a hit.

[Suwako Moriya]

Flan and Zollan are ok for one or two episodes, but they definitely won't work long term. Some of the stuff was as expected. The episode was mostly on the average side. Clearly the best part of the episode being the preview. Braided Twin Tails, I shall approve of. The more we see of that the higher a score episode 7 will deserve.

[zrdb]

You forgot to mention that the assasian known as Zuuma was mentioned at the end of the episode.

Why would I mention something that I didn't know, other than his name? Please do not volunteer extra information. We don't need to know.

Why not? I'm always interested to know something new-sorry for the spoiled sports shitty attitudes.

[meganly_chan]

I don't know, I rather liked this episode, even though it was over-the-top silly and completely pointless. At least we haven't seen "Miss Mermaid" anywhere, who could easily top the annoying scale over those animal sidekicks.

Oh, and old sorceror woman? Say it, don't spray it!

[thehadoken]

Now that I have seen the translated episode, it was very weak. The animals are really really annoying.

Balls? They town rolls balls up a mountain. Were the creators high?

My biggest issue with the episode is when Amelia started crying when she sees her fathers picture and hears the story. The whole prideful tears thing is one of my pet peeves...(see other topic)

I did like some things though: The main voice actors did an amazing job as always, Zel's entire time in the cave was great, so was Lina's beetle design for her Golum.

[Fencedude]

Guess I need to put a lot of faith in this Zuuma, and hope Xellos shows up way more than usual.

As Duclis himself said "I guess they'll serve as filler till Zuuma shows up. *sigh*"

Also episode was pretty lulz, in my opinion.

[Isuzu Inugami]

Episode 5:

- Oh good, I have obviously SEEN all of Slayers and remember the name Rezo, but damnit, the details weren't coming to mind. Thank goodness Amelia asked for me. :sd: But the implication is that he's still alive... interesting.

How many times must they kill him? :sweat: Honestly, Rezo has never been that intersting a Slayers character to me....


- So the villains show up. Can only hope they're just temporary villains and something better is waiting, because they're really, really unimpressive. Ozel is the only one I'm remotely interested in.

Can't resist a battle maid!

But it seems of course that Xellos is working for them... so far as he sees fit anyway, which will bite them in the ass before long.

You can count on Xellos to be working more than one--no, make that four or five--angles.

[meganly_chan]

So, is Zel now completely comfortable and accepting of his Chimera skin? Getting a massage, of all things, and LIKING it, seems completely off for him. Before Revolution he was always trying to conceal himself, shuffling around, pulling that hood over his head.

Slayers has always snuck in a few "modern" things before, but this just seems to have really pushed it :P

[thehadoken]

I am glad that Zel is more comfortable with his Chimera appearance. It shows character evolution.

I really like Zuuma as a character. He seems to be a great match up for Gourry. I like his shadow/smoke thing too. Also lol at Gourry still using a bent sword.

I haven't read the novels, was Zuuma Gourry's rival there? Was it both him and Zangulus?

[ndm]

Can someone please confirm for me whether we know how many episodes this series will be? I'd been expecting 26 episodes like the first 3 seasons, but reading the Moonphase anime page (http://www.moonphase.cc/Html/anime.html) it says just "全12話" (12 episodes). The series website (http://www.starchild.co.jp/special/slayers_revolution/menu/release_2.html) also only lists 5 dvds.

[Fencedude]

Can someone please confirm for me whether we know how many episodes this series will be? I'd been expecting 26 episodes like the first 3 seasons, but reading the Moonphase anime page (http://www.moonphase.cc/Html/anime.html) it says just "全12話" (12 episodes). The series website (http://www.starchild.co.jp/special/slayers_revolution/menu/release_2.html) also only lists 5 dvds.

I'd find that exceptionally odd, considering the episode title scheme they are going with.

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I'd find that exceptionally odd, considering the episode title scheme they are going with.
Yeah, you don't go with one letter from the English alphabet per episode, starting from A, and just suddenly end at L. :sd:

Unless it stands for 'Last Episode' =P

[Suwako Moriya]

Unless it stands for 'Last Episode' =P

Well if 12 is going to be the last episode then it makes episode six look even weaker than before. Regardless be it 12-13 or 24-26, I'm still going to continue to hold off on the series for now. Still it could have been worse. What if "F" had been "Final Episode"?

[Fudce]

Well I for one am pretty confident it'll be a 26 episode series, considering that MVM-UK has been offered "105" episodes of Slayers. (though where the mystery 105th episode has come from is a mystery)

[AstroNerdBoy]

The Slayers REVOLUTION series may have multiple seasons. I think of Hayate no Gotoku, which is four seasons in length (over the course of a year).

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The Slayers REVOLUTION series may have multiple seasons. I think of Hayate no Gotoku, which is four seasons in length (over the course of a year).
Hayate was one part in four consecutive cour, which I'd personally call one season. For me, a season is defined by a set of episodes followed by a distinct gap before more (if any) air later. If Slayers were going to be separate seasons, as in two distinct non-consecutive cour, that'd be very unexpected to say the least. All the others were 26 straight episodes...

So I fully expect one season in two consecutive cour (Summer and Fall 2008), but stranger things have certainly happened, yes...

[AstroNerdBoy]

I can understand that definition of a season, but then that would make Inuyasha a huge single-season thing and I've read that it is considered 6 seasons (or so).

Well, we'll see what happens with Slayers REVOLUTION. It may be that the remaining episodes just haven't been announced yet (which is kinda what I was getting at in my earlier post).

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I can understand that definition of a season, but then that would make Inuyasha a huge single-season thing and I've read that it is considered 6 seasons (or so).
I personally feel like the distinction between cour and season breaks down after about 4 cour (~52 eps, a year). At the length of something like Inuyasha (not to mention monsters like One Piece), story arcs or number of episodes or pure number of cour become more important. I don't bother trying to talk seasons with shows of that length that run without a break.

It may be that the remaining episodes just haven't been announced yet (which is kinda what I was getting at in my earlier post).
Yeah. The site I use for anime TV schedules is only listing 13 at the moment, but that doesn't always mean anything early on.

[zrdb]

Don't know if anybody noticed but SR was yanked from **** site at the "request" of crapmation-WONDERFUL!!

[Suwako Moriya]

Don't know if anybody noticed but SR was yanked from ***** site at the "request" of crapmation-WONDERFUL!!

Actually this is the first time I heard about that. Also for the record if Funimation does have the license for Slayers Revolution then ah well. I've bought Funi titles before and still am. Just need to decide the right time to progress on Shuffle. Actually since someone else tends to collect Slayers, I'll let him handle Revolution regardless. Still I always figured Funimation has had its eye on Revolution for awhile.

[Victor Lewandowski]

Don't know if anybody noticed but SR was yanked from ***** site at the "request" of crapmation-WONDERFUL!!

Actually this is the first time I heard about that. Also for the record if Funimation does have the license for Slayers Revolution then ah well. I've bought Funi titles before and still am. Just need to decide the right time to progress on Shuffle. Actually since someone else tends to collect Slayers, I'll let him handle Revolution regardless. Still I always figured Funimation has had its eye on Revolution for awhile.

And if they do have it, don't expect it to start be released before the end of 2009 (might be late 2009) with everything else on their plate.

[Suwako Moriya]

And if they do have it, don't expect it to start be released before the end of 2009 (might be late 2009) with everything else on their plate.

Well part of it would depend on how much priority they feel a show like Slayers deserves. Also even then since the series is still airing and the R2 DVDs are likely still being worked on. There's kind of a need to wait for materials I think. That being said, if I read the thread at the evil forum correctly, it seems Funimation did it on behalf of Enoki Films. Even so I'd be shocked if Funimation is not at least trying for the series assuming they don't already have it. Regardless this means it was mainly Enoki Films' idea. Although why have Funi send the C&D rather than do it themselves is another story.

[Suwako Moriya]

Also if Funimation does have the liscense to it, then they will have more time to get a proper translation, and maybe even more of a chance to get the TV cast back together! Come on Lisa, Eric, Crispin and co!!!!!

I wonder how realistic the chances of the same English dub cast as the previous TV series is. I guess it depends on what the various VAs involved are doing. In any case Slayers Revolution is rather close if not essentially an "it's only a matter of time" license. So it's just a case of waiting and in the meantime there's always catching up on other things.

[Fudce]

Don't know if anybody noticed but SR was yanked from ***** site at the "request" of crapmation-WONDERFUL!!

Well that would be because they either have the licence themselves, or they are acting on behalf of the master licencor "Enoki Films USA". Given that Enoki Films is based in America, I'd hazard option 1, but until it's confirmed it fits wholey in the rumour category.

The fact remains though that it has been C&D'd, which is as good as a licence as far as fansubs are concerned. Moaning isn't going to solve anything. Suck it in, get out your wallet, and buy the DVDs when released. You obviously want to watch it.

[Suwako Moriya]

So now, we will wait for the official R1 release.


Which we should all boycott unless it's also released on glorious VHS.:P Okay in all seriousness VHS was the method in which I watched the previous seasons. Come to think of it, I have yet to seriously watch the first brother's Slayers DVDs. Also if anyone takes this post seriously, we'll know which people have no life.

[AstroNerdBoy]

At this point, FUNimation doesn't have the license and there may not be a license announcement for ages.

I wrote what I know here (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/08/funimation-stops-slayers-revolution.html).

[meganly_chan]

^ I don't think I could wait until late 2009 (at the earliest, maybe) if somebody DOES license it. Oh, to live in Japan at times like these ;)

[thehadoken]

Just saw the RAW for episode 8. Here are my thoughts:

Spoilers

1. I REALLY HATE the animal people!!!! They are so annoying.

2. Xellos kicks but. He really showed us why he is the strongest non "big 5" (or is it big 3 now that Gaav and Phibrizzo are gone?) mazoku around.

3. It seems that Weizer and Xellos are friends?

Does anyone now what caused Lina to panic? Was Luna mentioned?

Also do you think a Dragon Slave or RaTilt could hurt Xellos? I know that someone like Phibrizzo could shrug off one Dragon Slave like it was nothing, but two seemed like it would have killed him. (He said so himself in NEXT)

We have both Zel and Amelia capable of casting a RaTilt, and both Lina and Potoka capable of using the Dragon Slave. Gourry...well he is the weak link right now with just a normal sword, He wouldn't be able to scratch Xellos.

All in all episode 8 had some great fight scenes, but had some really cheesy scenes too , especially from Weizer and the Animals. The Xellos fight scene totally made up for everything though.

[Fudce]

Spoilers

The [spoiler] tag is your friend. As is naming your subthread as asked in the opening post.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Finally saw episode 7 (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/08/slayers-revolution-07.html). A return to the good stuff, y'all. :sdsmiley:

[ndm]

Just saw the RAW for episode 8. Here are my thoughts:

Spoilers

Does anyone now what caused Lina to panic? Was Luna mentioned?

Yes, the guy mentions family "father, mother, and siblings", and she suddenly gets a reaction to the "siblings" part ("neechan? eh? doko? doko?") and freaks out. I love the references to her sister, so I particularly liked that part, but I really wish they'd once and for all put her sister actually in the story so I can see why she's so scared.

My favourite bit was the button labelled "don't press" that Lina couldn't resist pushing. :D

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Episode 7:

- Definitely looks to be another kinda silly episode. Starts with the crew on a cruise ship, with Amelia footing the bill, to her dismay. Pokota is all hotblooded about mage tanks and zanafar armor and all that, but Lina would rather relax.
- And on this cruise ship is a chef who appears to regard Pokota as a delicious ingredient. o_O
- It's not just Pokota being targeted either. Dangerous meals and "accidents" involving lots of sharp objects plague the rest of the gang.
- P.S. Amelia is hot. Lina looks okay in braids. It's a weird mix of "cute" and "doesn't really suit her".
- Seems they can't just leave the ship either since the assassin is holding all the passengers essentially hostage - and it's revealed to be Zuuma.
- Well, Zuuma and the entire ship. Lina and Pokota mock fight to draw everyone's attention and see if the assassin reveals themself, but it turns out every passenger was hired by Gioconda. :sd:
- Finally Zuuma reveals himself, and I think he might indeed be able to make up for the otherwise pathetic cast of villains. He's definitely someone Lina isn't well equipped to deal with - a quick melee fighter with an magic sealing mist ability. Granted that's what Gourry is for, and he winds up saving her here. Pokota's sword of light also seems to be able to dispel the mist.

After some attacks, Zuuma retreats. At any rate, more Xellos next time, woo!

[Fencedude]

- Swimming pool? On a wooden ship?
- Somehow Lina and Pokota's moods clash. Also Lina's dress is very nice
- lol Amelia's paying for everything. And she's looking quite fine.
- Pokota's popular with the ladies
- Creepy waitress is creepy...and the main dish is a monster.
- dangerous ship is dangerous
- threatening letter...
- Lina can be surprisingly supportive sometimes.
- Awww...Lina changed out of her dress...
- lol everyone on the ship was working for Gioconda
- But the real assassin is still onboard, his name is Zuuma!
- Assassins! Therefore! Evil! but Zelgadis steals her thunder...
- And some info about Zuuma
- Zuuma vs. Gourry
- And he makes a magic suppressing field...but the Sword of Light dissipates the darkness and they drive him off

[thehadoken]

I just saw the RAW for episode 9: Spoiler Alert:

-We get to see Potoka's human form.

-Gourry gets a HUGE Final Fantasy VII like Buster Sword (That he can't lift!)

-The maid is a puppet, with some really freaky hands.

-Xellos messes with Detective Flavin.

-Blue Sword of Light vs Red Sword of Light, Star Wars style!

-Zuuma is really awesome.

[thehadoken]

Saw the RAW for episode 10, and it was in all honesty the BEST SLAYERS REVOLUTION episode to date.

I can't begin to list all of the great moments.



Blue sword of Light vs Red Sword of Light

Zuuma kicks Amelia and Zelgadis's butts.

Zuuma uses Shadow Snap

Lina uses a very very cool looking Ragna Blade.

Gourry gets the Sword of Light back!

Gourry OWNS with the sword of light. As soon as he says "Light Come Forth" the blade turns from the regular sword shape to the the crackly uber sword he used in Next under Fibrizzo's spell.

He uses the Sword beam.

He cuts off Zuuma's clawed hand.

Lina blasts off Zuuma's arm.

Gourry cuts off Zuuma's other arm.

The maid dies.

The Marquis dies too.

Rezo speaks.

Pokota and that cat guy team up .

More info on Pokota's past.

Rezo chose Pokota and the cat guy's body.

The Zannifar true form appears.



Some great non spoiling parts were:

1. Detective Wiser is AWESOME!
2. Xellos watching everything and eating POPCORN like he is watching a play or at the movies.
3. Gourry DUAL wielding swords.

[AstroNerdBoy]

I just saw the RAW for episode 9: Spoiler Alert:

-We get to see Potoka's human form.

-Gourry gets a HUGE Final Fantasy VII like Buster Sword (That he can't lift!)

-The maid is a puppet, with some really freaky hands.

-Xellos messes with Detective Flavin.

-Blue Sword of Light vs Red Sword of Light, Star Wars style!

-Zuuma is really awesome.



Yeah, good stuff in this episode, which I blogged here (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/09/slayers-revolution-09.html). I didn't care for the Star Wars reference though.

[thehadoken]

Yeah, good stuff in this episode, which I blogged here (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/09/slayers-revolution-09.html). I didn't care for the Star Wars reference though.

Yeah the Star Wars part was weird. It seemed unnecessary.

I do not like the the fact that someone can create a Sword of Light equivalent weapon with their bare hands. It makes the Sword of Light seem secondhand. Why go through the trouble of making a SoL replica, when you can just conjure up a magic one?

If Gourry knew that trick, he would have been much more useful.

On another note, no one seemed surprised that he Cat guy could make a Sword of Light. Did they ask how he did it or anything?

It seems better than enchanting a weapon with the Astral Vine, and less draining than the Ruby Eyes Blade.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Yeah, good stuff in this episode, which I blogged here (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/09/slayers-revolution-09.html). I didn't care for the Star Wars reference though.

Yeah the Star Wars part was weird. It seemed unnecessary.

On another note, no one seemed surprised that he Cat guy could make a Sword of Light. Did they ask how he did it or anything?

I was under the impression that like the mage-tanks, Pokota's faux Sword of Light were also being created along with the Zanaffar armor. I could be wrong though, but that's in my mind for some reason.

It seems better than enchanting a weapon with the Astral Vine, and less draining than the Ruby Eyes Blade.

I was hoping to see Gourry obtain a new sword as he did in the novels (I don't know what sword or swords he may have used there).

[thehadoken]

The sword in the novels was called the Blast Sword, and it was so sharp that it could cut into the ground if dropped, and cut it's sheath if moved. it also had the ability to resist magic and get even sharper. It could even cut high ranking mazoku. Even someone like 1/7 of Ruby Eyes.

[AstroNerdBoy]

The sword in the novels was called the Blast Sword, and it was so sharp that it could cut into the ground if dropped, and cut it's sheath if moved. it also had the ability to resist magic and get even sharper. It could even cut high ranking mazoku. Even someone like 1/7 of Ruby Eyes.

OK, that is certainly what I'd like to see introduced into the anime series then. Thanks for the info. ^_^

[Fencedude]

The sword in the novels was called the Blast Sword, and it was so sharp that it could cut into the ground if dropped, and cut it's sheath if moved. it also had the ability to resist magic and get even sharper. It could even cut high ranking mazoku. Even someone like 1/7 of Ruby Eyes.

Well, looking at the ANN page, they list 13 episodes, and since its obviously going to be 26, the title for 13 is interesting, if a little obtuse... (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=9500&page=25)

[Fluffy]

The sword in the novels was called the Blast Sword, and it was so sharp that it could cut into the ground if dropped, and cut it's sheath if moved. it also had the ability to resist magic and get even sharper. It could even cut high ranking mazoku. Even someone like 1/7 of Ruby Eyes.

Well, looking at the ANN page, they list 13 episodes, and since its obviously going to be 26, the title for 13 is interesting, if a little obtuse... (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=9500&page=25)Looks like there's more Slayers on the horizon....

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- New Slayers TV Anime Series Officially Confirmed (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-09-06/new-slayers-tv-anime-series-officially-confirmed) - (ANN)

The October issue (on sale on September 9) of Fujimi Shobo (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=3268)'s Monthly Dragon Age (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=1848) magazine will announce that a new television anime series for The Slayers (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=657) franchise (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/lexicon.php?id=70) has been officially green-lit. Hajime Kanzaka (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=3464), the author of the original Slayers light novels, had already indicated that the ongoing Slayers Revolution (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=9500) television anime series was conceived as the first part of a storyline that will last half a year (with a break in between). However, the Dragon Age announcement will be the first public, official confirmation that the second part of the storyline is in production. More details will be provided in the November issue of Fujimi's Monthly Dragon Magazine (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=1467), which goes on sale on September 20.

Source: Moon Phase Comments (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20080906#p2)

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Episode 8:

- And Wizer returns. He goes so far as to a fortress along the road Lina is traveling, in order to trap her. They're back to this old gag...
- Heh, Wizer set this up with Xelloss, and Gioconda's goons are there too. Closed eyes * 2! And Wizer's motivation in all this is... to capture Lina so the court ladies fall for him. >_>
- Xelloss comes up with all sorts of ridiculous schemes for Wizer to use against Lina, and it's obvious Xelloss is so having fun messing with Wizer. :sd:
- XD! Xelloss is cracking up. Oh my lord I love Xelloss. Now he's had enough fun and it's time for the final plan.
- Which consists of simply mentioning Lina's sister to her. Which of course freaks her out, and she gives up calmly.
- However Wizer forgot one complicating factor - Pokota and the rest. :sd: Also, Lina in Amelia's breasts! YES!!
- Xelloss finally shows up... and Lina and the gang steal his trademark line XD
- THE EYES OPEN! HE'S SERIOUS! Unfortunately the resulting fight is a bit stilted and sound effects are just sort of randomly left out at times and the timing seems a bit off. But seeing how the whole cast of main characters combined can't take Xelloss down just reminds me how awesome he is.

Lina makes the best of the situation though - she gets Pokota out of there and then surrendurs to Xelloss. She knows that they could never beat him, and if he takes them to Gioconda, well, hell, thats where they were headed anyway. With Pokota free, they can get sprung out of jail later.

Very good episode! An improvement over recent eps, since it was all about the main characters and XELLOSS!

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Episode 9:

- Bwhahaa, Lina is an amusing captive.
- Also, <3 Xelloss. "In short, Lina just pretended to get captured in order to come here and expose your plot."
- Now Wizer is being awesome too. He's totally working Gioconda into a corner. I really really really want to just just who he really is. So does Xelloss, it seems.
- Lina and the others are in their jail cell, seeming none too concerned. They know they can get out at any time but they don't know the layout of the castle, and need to wait for Pokota.
- Wizer and Xelloss make such a great pair. "I have a lot of secrets, but I make a point of not telling lies. You seem to have no problem, however." I think Xelloss respects Wizer a lot for that. =P
- Although maybe he has too much respect for him, and needs to take action, i.e. dumping Wizer down a hole...
- Ozel comes to ask Lina a.... favor? Also, wtf she's a puppet! XD
- And her request is to find and destroy a vessel that contains the sleeping soul of Rezo. So thaaaat's why the spell on Pokota's people never dispelled.
- Pokota runs into Duclis, who insists he still wants to break the seal on Taforasia (which ties into what Ozel just asked of Lina). Then suddenly, Pokota's real form! Albiet in a flashback, and it's not much of an improvement over his current form. Duclis was human too, except his current desire is revenge against the countries that didn't help Taforasia. To do that he needs to work for Gioconda, who has the resources to perfect the Zanafar armor.
- Ozel is leading Lina and the rest down to where Pokota is, but Zuuma attacks? Who the heck is Ozel working for, then? At the very least, it's interesting trying to figure out just who is working for who and why.
- They wind up in a coliseum, with Zuuma on one side and Gioconda on the other. Gioconda might be utterly, dismally failing to interest me as an antagonist so far, but at least she can hold her own in a fight.

So Ozel does attack them, meaning we have Pokota vs Duclis, Gourry vs Gioconda, and Zuuma/Ozel vs Lina/Amelia/Zelgadis. If the fights had been better animated thus far I'd be super excited about this, but instead I just kinda hope the fighting is minimal.

Two good episodes though, and I'm definitely back in the mood for Slayers again after faltering a little.

[fates]

So there's going to be another 26 episode series after Revolution? Or are they talking about 14-26 of Slayers R? Don't quite get what they're talking about there...

[Fencedude]

So there's going to be another 26 episode series after Revolution? Or are they talking about 14-26 of Slayers R? Don't quite get what they're talking about there...

I think they are talking about another series after Revolution.

No one ever REALLY thought Revolution was only going to be 13 episodes.

[Fluffy]

So there's going to be another 26 episode series after Revolution? Or are they talking about 14-26 of Slayers R? Don't quite get what they're talking about there...

I think they are talking about another series after Revolution.

No one ever REALLY thought Revolution was only going to be 13 episodes.Yeah, I think they're talking about another full series beyond Revolution. A 13 episode Slayers series is unfathomable.

[fates]

So there's going to be another 26 episode series after Revolution? Or are they talking about 14-26 of Slayers R? Don't quite get what they're talking about there...

I think they are talking about another series after Revolution.

No one ever REALLY thought Revolution was only going to be 13 episodes.

Which is what led me to believe that this meant episodes 14-26 of Slayers Revolution is in production, but an entirely new series?

[Fencedude]

So there's going to be another 26 episode series after Revolution? Or are they talking about 14-26 of Slayers R? Don't quite get what they're talking about there...

I think they are talking about another series after Revolution.

No one ever REALLY thought Revolution was only going to be 13 episodes.

Which is what led me to believe that this meant episodes 14-26 of Slayers Revolution is in production, but an entirely new series?

No.

Revolution is 26 episodes.

This is ANOTHER SERIES after Revolution ends.

[Fudce]

So there's going to be another 26 episode series after Revolution? Or are they talking about 14-26 of Slayers R? Don't quite get what they're talking about there...

I think they are talking about another series after Revolution.

No one ever REALLY thought Revolution was only going to be 13 episodes.

Which is what led me to believe that this meant episodes 14-26 of Slayers Revolution is in production, but an entirely new series?

No. What I read into this is that what we all call "Slayers Revolution" will be one "series" split into two seperate cours. Think of it like you do Code Geass and R:2, and the two halves of Gundam 00, only with Lina Inverse and half as many episodes.

Hajime Kanzaka ... had already indicated that ... Slayers Revolution ... was conceived as the first part of a storyline that will last half a year (with a break in between). However, the Dragon Age announcement will be the first public, official confirmation that the second part of the storyline is in production.

So basicly, it was always intended to be two 13 episode cours forming a full 26 episode series, but with a break between episodes 1-13 and 14-26. It has only just been formally announced though.

(Half a year is 26 episodes, Hajime Kanzaka said that it will be a series to last half a year, with a gap in between. This fits with the above explaination.)

[fates]

So there's going to be another 26 episode series after Revolution? Or are they talking about 14-26 of Slayers R? Don't quite get what they're talking about there...

I think they are talking about another series after Revolution.

No one ever REALLY thought Revolution was only going to be 13 episodes.

Which is what led me to believe that this meant episodes 14-26 of Slayers Revolution is in production, but an entirely new series?


So basicly, it was always intended to be two 13 episode cours forming a full 26 episode series, but with a break between episodes 1-13 and 14-26. It has only just been formally announced though.

(Half a year is 26 episodes, Hajime Kanzaka said that it will be a series to last half a year, with a gap in between. This fits with the above explaination.)

Yeah, that's what I was talking about when I said episodes "14-26" of Revolution.

But the wording of it (which is pretty bad) made it sound like there's another 26 episodes after Revolution as a whole (before and after a split) is done. Which I find unlikely right now because Revolution isn't even halfway over.

[AstroNerdBoy]

I wasn't sure if Slayers REVOLUTION was getting a 2-season treatment or if this new announcement was for a 5th TV series. I'll laugh if this comes out as Slayers REVOLUTION 2. :sdsmiley:

Either way, it is good to know we are confirmed for more Slayers goodness. I'm all for a break, especially if it means taking time for a quality story and quality animation.

[Victor Lewandowski]

So there's going to be another 26 episode series after Revolution? Or are they talking about 14-26 of Slayers R? Don't quite get what they're talking about there...

I think they are talking about another series after Revolution.

No one ever REALLY thought Revolution was only going to be 13 episodes.

Which is what led me to believe that this meant episodes 14-26 of Slayers Revolution is in production, but an entirely new series?

It sounds like after Episode 13, the series is going to take a break for a cour or two (while they're busy producing the other 13 episodes), then resume with Episode 14 after that break. :knowitall:

[AstroNerdBoy]

So there's going to be another 26 episode series after Revolution? Or are they talking about 14-26 of Slayers R? Don't quite get what they're talking about there...

I think they are talking about another series after Revolution.

No one ever REALLY thought Revolution was only going to be 13 episodes.

Which is what led me to believe that this meant episodes 14-26 of Slayers Revolution is in production, but an entirely new series?

It sounds like after Episode 13, the series is going to take a break for a cour or two (while they're busy producing the other 13 episodes), then resume with Episode 14 after that break. :knowitall:

In other words, this fourth Slayers TV series is two seasons in length. :P

[AstroNerdBoy]

I have now watched and reviewed episode 10 (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/09/slayers-revolution-10.html) on my blog. I'm very glad to see that the production team appear to be getting Zanaffar right this time around, unlike how the creature was portrayed in Slayers.

[Fudce]

In other words, this fourth Slayers TV series is two seasons in length. :P

Please don't say it that way though. The term "season" is why the confusion exists. A better way would be to say that this fourth series of Slayers TV will be two cours in length, seperated over multiple seasons of anime.

[thehadoken]

Is Zannifar a Mazoku?

If so what rank?

In the first TV season, Lina and co thought that the one that Copy Rezo had was as strong as 1/7 of Ruby Eyes.


Also on an unrelated note, which side is currently stronger, the Gods, or Mazoku?

Lets see

Gods--Flair Dragon = dead---->3 of the 4 gods under him are alive. All with 1/4 his power.----->various humans who are the knight of the Celeifeed. All about Xellos's strength.---->Intelligent dragons.

Mazoku 5 of the 7 pieces of Ruby Eyes are alive (one being frozen in unbreakable ice), each one with about 1/7 of the full power----->3 of the 5 subordinates are alive (all with less than 1/7 of his power (maybe 1/10 each?)-----> Xellos (maybe 1/15)----->other priests and generals---->low ranking mazoku.

So assuming that a fully powered Celefeed and Shabranigdu are equal we can guess that the Mazoku are winning?

If I am wrong or anyone has anything to add, please say.

[AstroNerdBoy]

In other words, this fourth Slayers TV series is two seasons in length. :P

Please don't say it that way though. The term "season" is why the confusion exists. A better way would be to say that this fourth series of Slayers TV will be two cours in length, seperated over multiple seasons of anime.

Sorry, I have to disagree. If you guys would stop calling the different series "seasons," then you wouldn't have to grasp for the Japanese word for season, "cour." ^_~ Seriously, every time a new series comes out, everyone wants to use the less correct term "season" unless the original series was greater than 52-episodes (such as Naruto), in which case they have no choice but use the term "series."

Still, it is a moot point now seeing how the new "season" is being given a new name (thus making it a new, sequel series). For the time being, the new series is being called Slayers GLORY (MoonPhase (http://www.moonphase.cc/Html/anime.html)).

[AstroNerdBoy]

Is Zannifar a Mazoku?

No. Zanaffar is listed as a chimera officially because of how it is created. The magic from the Claire Bible enables people to create what is called "Zanaffar Armor" for protection. However, the truth of the armor is that it is living armor that eventually will consume its wearer and become the "demon beast" (for lack of a better term) Zanaffar.

Also on an unrelated note, which side is currently stronger, the Gods, or Mazoku?

The "gods" (or "shinzoku") have their power from being worshiped and the mazoku have their power from negative emotions. There are less shinzoku and always have been. Every time the mazoku create a new generation (as it were), those mazoku are weaker.

During the Kōma War when the mazoku lords sealed off Aqualord Ragradia in their attempt to resurrect the piece of Ruby Eye Shabranigdu, many of the mazoku lords lost thier priest and generals. While they were successful in bringing Ruby Eye Shabranigdu to life (who was sealed inside a powerful human wizard of the time), that piece of Ruby Eye was sealed into a mountain and cannot move. While the mazoku suceeded in slaying Ragradia, the mazoku lord Chaos Dragon Garv ended up being sealed in human form (having to live as a human and be reborn over and over and over). The other four mazoku lords ended up being stuck maintaining the mazoku barrier around the land mass in which Slayers takes place.

In the end, both Chaos Dragon Garv and Hellmaster Fibrizo are destroyed years later and the mazoku barrier is destroyed. Lina also has slain a piece of Ruby Eye Shabranigdu (two if you go by the novels).

So I'd say things are at a stalemate.

[Fudce]

Still, it is a moot point now seeing how the new "season" is being given a new name (thus making it a new, sequel series). For the time being, the new series is being called Slayers GLORY (MoonPhase (http://www.moonphase.cc/Html/anime.html)).

If it's getting a new name, then in my opinion it should be considered to be a seperate series.

And cour and season are technically the same thing, but season is often misused, again as you say. It's why the term "cour" started being used. And for the record, it's a French loanword, not a Japanese one.

[thehadoken]

Thanks AstroNerdBoy for the info.

So Zanaffar being a chimera is cool. Is this the same creature that was in the first series? This Zanaffar seems to have a similar design, but fewer heads.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Thanks AstroNerdBoy for the info.

So Zanaffar being a chimera is cool. Is this the same creature that was in the first series? This Zanaffar seems to have a similar design, but fewer heads.

Technically, it is the same creature. However, the Zanaffar in Slayers REVOLUTION appears to be more in line with how the creature was described in the novels whereas the Zanaffar in Slayers was just made up. However, the differences could be "explained away" in how one reads the Claire Bible manuscript on Zanaffar and thus how one uses that information to create the creature. ^_^;

[thehadoken]

Looks like we get to see a priestess/princess you has a crush on Gourry next episode...:)

Also thanks AstroNerdBoy for the info.

Wasn't it stated somewhere that Mazoku didn't want humans to learn how to make Zanaffar armor, because then they would be ably to slay lesser mazoku, who would be the bulk of their army?

[AstroNerdBoy]

Also thanks AstroNerdBoy for the info. No problem. Wasn't it stated somewhere that Mazoku didn't want humans to learn how to make Zanaffar armor, because then they would be ably to slay lesser mazoku, who would be the bulk of their army? That I couldn't say without some research. Xellos's reason for destroying all copies (even if mere pages) of the Claire Bible is to prevent humans from gaining certain knowledge so I suppose that could be the case with Zanaffar armor. However, in Slayers REVOLUTION, it was Xellos who showed Duclis how to make the perfected armor and thus the perfected Zanaffar beast.

[something]

Episode 10:

- Haha, Wizer is awesome.
- Alright, more backstory on Taforasia and Rezo. All I can say is, Rezo has terrible taste in "temporary bodies". Also looks like Pokota isn't changing any time soon, since his real body is sealed away. Well it wasn't much of an improvement anyway.
- XD Wizer interrupts Duclis and Pokota's battle. He's totally becoming one of my favorite characters.
- Also, Xelloss eating popcorn while he watches the battle raging. :sd:
- Ozel detaches her head to avoid a hit from Amelia. XD By and large these battles aren't terribly impressive, unfortunately. Apparently, Amelia bleeds light.
- Wizer clues Duclis and Pokota in on the truth behind the Taforasia emergency aid.
- Oh hey, Ragna Blade. I remember that being a pretty epic attack in an earlier season but it kinda fizzles out after one hit here. :sd:

Gioconda's plot is unraveled and the Zanafar beast is revived all that, and I rather hope we're moving into a whole new part of the plot here. Wizer and Xelloss are great, but I feel like everyone else is getting dragged down by lame villains. Even Zuuma bores me now.

The show is still good, but it doesn't excite me hugely or anything. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised - I've always liked Slayers, but it was never anywhere near a favorite. It's just a decent long ass fantasy series. Still hoping it picks up a bit more though.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Episode 10:

- Oh hey, Ragna Blade. I remember that being a pretty epic attack in an earlier season but it kinda fizzles out after one hit here. :sd:

That's what it did in Slayers Next IIRC. It takes a great deal of power to maintain and then once used, it leaves the caster severely weakened for a while. I don't remember if it was used in Slayers Try or not. It is still an "epic attack" as you say, but that's why Ozel sacrificed herself on the blade to save Zuuma.

[zrdb]

Episode 11 is totally radical!!

[thehadoken]

Episode 10:

- Oh hey, Ragna Blade. I remember that being a pretty epic attack in an earlier season but it kinda fizzles out after one hit here. :sd:

That's what it did in Slayers Next IIRC. It takes a great deal of power to maintain and then once used, it leaves the caster severely weakened for a while. I don't remember if it was used in Slayers Try or not. It is still an "epic attack" as you say, but that's why Ozel sacrificed herself on the blade to save Zuuma.


Yeah it was used in Try to counter one of Valgaav's first attacks, and another time to attack one of the overworld gods, since regular magic wouldn't work on them.

=zrdb
Episode 11 is totally radical!!

Yes it was. It is very nice that everyone cares so much about Potoca too.

[AstroNerdBoy]

My episode 11 (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/09/slayers-revolution-11.html) summary/review is up on the blog. More Zanaffar and he's certainly more in line with his novel counterpart.

[thehadoken]

Episode 12:

Gourry owns with the Sword of Light.

The return of Astral Vine too. Good episode, I can't wait for the last one in this arc.

[thehadoken]

Saw the RAW for episode 13 and I am more excited then ever for the next cour or arc!

SPOILERS







Sword of Light mixed with a Ragna Blade!!!!!

Ducis=centaur now?

the maid is still alive.

Zuuma is scary.

Amelia and her dad are awesome.

Everyone was great and in character.


I can't wait for the second half!

[zrdb]

This series (despite what certain other people have said) just keeps getting better and better as it goes on!!

[AstroNerdBoy]

This series (despite what certain other people have said) just keeps getting better and better as it goes on!!

I've enjoyed it. There was only one bad episode that I recall.

[thehadoken]

This series (despite what certain other people have said) just keeps getting better and better as it goes on!!

I've enjoyed it. There was only one bad episode that I recall.


The ball episode?

[AstroNerdBoy]

This series (despite what certain other people have said) just keeps getting better and better as it goes on!!

I've enjoyed it. There was only one bad episode that I recall.


The ball episode?

That would be the one.

[zrdb]

That wouldn't happen to be hairy balls by any chance? LOL!!

[AstroNerdBoy]

That wouldn't happen to be hairy balls by any chance? LOL!!

Not quite, but they are big. ^_^;

My episode 12 (http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2008/09/slayers-revolution-12.html) summary/review for those curious. ;)

[Dragon Nexus]

Episode 12 had so many parts that annoyed me...

1) They didn't manage to get Phillionel's original voice back again. It was understandable for Try, since he was only there for 1 episode and had, like, 5 lines...but it was a shame not to hear the original Slayers/Next VA.

2) Erm, they drew Seyrune wrong. Seyrune is a city of White Magic, yes? So why was it drawn as a pentagram, the symbol of black magic? It was meant to be drawn as the star of David, a six pointed star.

3) How come all of the characters seem to complete have forgotten the resurrection, battle and subsiquent defeat of Zanaffar only 2-3 chronological years hense? You know, the whole climax to the first series thing...?
If they're making such a big deal with Rezo and saying to new comers "well, you'd know him if you watched the first series", it's strange they're not making the effort to keep Zanaffar relevent to long term fans.

Other than those three points, I've really enjoyed the series thus far. Better than Try, but still not *quite* as good as Next.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Episode 12 had so many parts that annoyed me...

1) They didn't manage to get Phillionel's original voice back again. It was understandable for Try, since he was only there for 1 episode and had, like, 5 lines...but it was a shame not to hear the original Slayers/Next VA.

I guess I didn't pay attention to that. Hmmm...

2) Erm, they drew Seyrune wrong. Seyrune is a city of White Magic, yes? So why was it drawn as a pentagram, the symbol of black magic? It was meant to be drawn as the star of David, a six pointed star.

I need to go back and watch the episode. I didn't notice Saillune City being shown from a vantage point to see the city layout. I just remember them being in the one courtyard and the fort on the boarder of the country.

3) How come all of the characters seem to complete have forgotten the resurrection, battle and subsiquent defeat of Zanaffar only 2-3 chronological years hense? You know, the whole climax to the first series thing...?

This I agree with you on. In the past, the writers used Gourry's stupidity as a vehicle to give explanations on things that had happened previously (whenever that was) but this time, everyone seems to have forgotten Zanaffar's previous incarnation. Of course that version of Zanaffar was pretty much made up whole cloth whereas the Zanaffar from Slayers REVOLUTION is designed based on the novel descriptions. Maybe the writers are trying to retcon out of that or something (just taking a wild speculative guess there).
If they're making such a big deal with Rezo and saying to new comers "well, you'd know him if you watched the first series", it's strange they're not making the effort to keep Zanaffar relevent to long term fans.

Other than those three points, I've really enjoyed the series thus far. Better than Try, but still not *quite* as good as Next.[/quote]

[Dragon Nexus]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/64/CityofSaillune00485.jpg/220px-CityofSaillune00485.jpg

Sairune as it was in Next

The city wide shot of Sairune in Revolution happens at 6:40 on episode 12, making the city look nothing like the above picture.

Sairune was remoddled in Next, as was explained in the episode, to make the city a focus for magical energy, specifically white magic, making it the most powerful white mage city in that part of the world.


As for Zanaffar, I could understand if the writers said of Slayers 1 that technically he wasn't really reborn, since Copy Rezo absorbed him.
But still, omitting they'd even heard mention of him before, especially when his name was first brought up back in episode 5, is just weird. There was a massize gasp at the mention of Rezo, but nothing for Zanaffar.

Still, I was happy they got Rezo's voice back.
Not too surprising though, the guy does everything from Rezo to Vincent Valentine (Hellsing. Twice.) to Radium in Zone of the Enders.

[thehadoken]

That seemed weird too. Maybe the Zanafaar from season 1 was different, like AstroNerdBoy said. They di know about the Gorun Nova being the creatures legendary weakness though in season 1.


My big question is how on earth did they manage to make a copy of the Sword of Light???
It is supposed to be the power of DarkStar, someone equal to Ruby Eyes. Powerwise it is above the Dragon Slave, and just below the Ragna Blade as seen in Next's Gourry vs everyone else battle. How does one make that without using a part of Darkstar who was half killed in Try, then it is assumed that the other half died in the Overworld.

We already have 1 dead piece of Shabranigdu and one piece sealed in super magical ice, so 5/7 of him is left which I guess would account for the SoL's loss of power but still...

Plus Duclis' energy sword thing really bugs me. It makes the need for a Sword of Light/Astral Vine spell seem useless.

All in all though I loved this season. The only episodes that I disliked were the Ball one and the Chimera one.

[pianocello]

Having just finished this, I must say that Slayers is a series that is best for fans of the original and for those who have been watching anime since the 90s. The 90s feel from the humor to the character design might not work for the new fans plus this season has many references to the previous seasons.
Despite the lame humor, poor storyline and lack of development in romances, this was still a trip down memory lane for me though I believe I'm not alone in thinking that while the original Slayers franchise might have seemed good in the 90s, it doesn't quite hold a candle to the latest anime nowadays. One thing that bothered me is how even though a few years have passed, that they don't even make an effort to make the characters look older. Also, with the mass destruction of cities, the show takes too callous and non-chalant attitude towards the possible deaths of thousands.
I personally find Xellos to be the most irritating character in the entire franchise and I can't figure out why they would want to keep bringing him back. On the other hand, I'm disappointed that their attitude towards Sylphiel is more of a "Oh...we'll just throw a bone to her fans and have her make brief appearances" instead of having her as part of the regular team. They should also bring back Filia instead of the urgh Xellos who is just annoying.
While I've seen worse in the previous seasons;the new characters, while not too bad, aren't that memorable either. The storyline had a few moments (especially the "balls" episode) where I got bored but picked up when they were fighting the villains.
I'll still follow the sequel though - despite its flaws, Slayers is something to watch while waiting for the next great thing to show up.

[AstroNerdBoy]

Remember, Slayers is part serious story and part comedic parody of the fantasy (and D&D) genre. So no matter how dire the situation, often humor was still rolled in.

As for Xellos, he plays a roll in the main storyline until the end. His purpose was pretty clear though -- allow the creation of one Zanaffar to cause the chaos, fear, etc. which mazoku feed on but prevent there from being multiple Zanaffar's, which could be a threat to the mazoku, especially if any mazoku get consumed by a Zanaffar and thus obtain their knowledge and power.

I had the exact opposite thought as you on episode 6 and the "balls" episode, which I thought is the worst of the series. It was a completely pointless, filler episode. Some of the other filler stuff at least had some purpose IMO.

But that's just my opinion.

I am wondering how Slayers plays with younger anime fans who didn't watch the original trilogy. I noticed that hits for my individual Slayers REVOLUTION episode reviews dropped over time while I never had a hit loss for my Macross Frontier episode reviews even if I was the a week or so late.

Oddly enough though, if I posted something on the next Slayers series or my piece on FUNimation's attempt to stop fansubs of Slayers REVOLUTION, those got huge hits, suggesting there's still drawing power in the Slayers brand. Go figure.