GITS 2.0 rapes your teenage years?

[Tofurkey]

This review (http://destroytokyo.com/index.php/2008/07/14/ghost-in-the-shell-2-0-impressions?blog=2) I found off Anime AICN ain't pretty.

[Ryos]

Well, uh, I dunno about the correlation with the subject, but that review certainly gave me the impression that since I saw the original I can safely pass on this.

[Tofurkey]

Just an allusion to Lucas and Bay, since people say they raped their childhoods, and while most of us were more likely to see GITS when they were teens.

[chronoclast]

The more I think about it and especially after reading that I don't think I even want to see this now. The original is a masterpiece IMO and the idea of changing stuff and messing with it just seems wrong and unnecessary. I think I'll just stick with the original.

[Lego]

Uh oh, not good. I had "restrained" hopes for this, even if they weren't going to redo the whole thing.

Other changes include getting rid of the original credits (which would later inspire the Matrix's "digital rain" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain) effects) and replacing every helicopter in the film with a 3D model. Other vehicles stay the same, but every helicopter has been given a 3D makeover. In some instances this new 3D model is used with the original 2D background, other times the scenes have been entirely redone in 3D.
The worst change is the coloring changes throughout the film. The original version was a very green movie; every computer display and almost every shot had a green hue. They've now adjusted it so that everything is red-orange, seemingly for no other reason than to be different. For most of the film, this color shift is the only visible change but it's a considerable one.


Hmm..

[Njr Scrawl]

Well, uh, I dunno about the correlation with the subject, but that review certainly gave me the impression that since I saw the original I can safely pass on this.

I'm happy with what I have. I want new Motoko stories, not replaced graphics.

[something]

Questionable subject line aside, all I have to day is I knew this was a terrible idea from the start. Why play Lucas with GitS for no good reason?

Oh, right. Because it will sell tens if not hundreds of thousands of copies regardless. :sd:

But besides that! Oh well...

[Lego]

Questionable subject line aside, all I have to day is I knew this was a terrible idea from the start. Why play Lucas with GitS for no good reason?

Oh, right. Because it will sell tens if not hundreds of thousands of copies regardless. :sd:

But besides that! Oh well...

From the start it really seemed like they took a look at what Eva 1.0 was doing and went "hey, we can refurbish and old movie and make money!". I wish they just would of spent the effort making a third season of SAC after reading that review.

[Glorian]

This review (http://destroytokyo.com/index.php/2008/07/14/ghost-in-the-shell-2-0-impressions?blog=2) I found off Anime AICN ain't pretty.

Ugh. I'm always suspicious of 'updated' versions of classics (I've few, if any, that were actually worthwhile), so I had my doubts about GITS 2.0 anyway. The review simply confirms that I was right to be suspicious. I'll stick with the original version of the movie instead.

[Pyocola]

As expected, whoever thought having 2D cel animation in one scene with full 3D CG in the next must be an idiot.

[Justin T. Williams]

As expected, whoever thought having 2D cel animation in one scene with full 3D CG in the next must be an idiot.

Considering Lucas is involved I think that goes without saying. :(

[Isuzu Inugami]

Questionable subject line aside, all I have to day is I knew this was a terrible idea from the start. Why play Lucas with GitS for no good reason?


I suspect they may have been inspired by Shirow's more recent, heavily cgi-ed GitS stories; but why they felt compelled to inflict this on a twenty year old movie instead of just doing a CGI version of (Oh my god, I can't even start to find AoD's listing of this title on Mania!) Man Machine Interface (http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmgr/mrjmdr4e2e6DgAeS=r/browse/item/64326/4/1523/144), I don't know.

[djanss]

I suspect they may have been inspired by Shirow's more recent, heavily cgi-ed GitS stories; but why they felt compelled to inflict this on a twenty year old movie instead of just doing a CGI version of Man Machine Interface, I don't know.

...What hath Appleseed 2.0 wrought? :(

In GITS's case, it's not "creative bankruptcy", it's just The Other Big Rival Techno-Classic jumping its own reputation-shark, for being considered a "classic" just for appearing at times when it could fool fans into thinking it was a big deal.
(Ie., the big-budget in Japan, and the first-on-DVD-and-theaters in the US)

It could just as easily have been Akira or even (yeesh) Metropolis to bandwagon the revival craze, and the effect would've been the same:
It didn't "need" CGI this time around, except to (A) fall victim to the "Anything looks better in CGI" disease that we finally managed to eradicate in this country by kicking out Michael Eisner, and (B) try and build up its GITS1.0 image as "groundbreaking", with people whose ground breaks way too easily.

[mike.motaku]

I feel violated. More because my teen years were WAY WAY before all y'alls and the hyperbole in the subject line sounds a leettle heavy-handed, even for teh interweb.

I will probably get 2.0 when it's released, but I will also not abandon the original. Whatever the intent behind this remake(?) it will be something of a curiosity for me. And who knows? They may decide to do a full-on CGI remake somewhere down the line. It will be interesting, from a purely film history perspective, to see how the same material is treated over a span of time with different technologies in play.

[Teisuu]

The worst change is the coloring changes throughout the film. The original version was a very green movie; every computer display and almost every shot had a green hue. They've now adjusted it so that everything is red-orange, seemingly for no other reason than to be different.Or to bring it in line with Innocence which uses that red-orange colour for anything computer-related. Though it's still rather worthless attempt, IMHO.

[Funkatron]

I want to see this with my own two eyes. I don't want to rely on the opinion of just one random guy.

[Lego]

I want to see this with my own two eyes. I don't want to rely on the opinion of just one random guy.

Then you can happily buy your copy from Manga Ent. once they bring it over...

*collects his five dollars*

[Quarkboy]

So, should I go see it then myself and report back? That theater is pretty close to where I live and I was sort of planning on seeing it... although now not so much.

But I could at least give people a second opinion. Also, I haven't actually watched the original movie since I rented it on VHS tape like.... 10 years ago? So I think I can sort of appreciate the movie without comparing it so much to the original.

[Lego]

So, should I go see it then myself and report back? That theater is pretty close to where I live and I was sort of planning on seeing it... although now not so much.

But I could at least give people a second opinion. Also, I haven't actually watched the original movie since I rented it on VHS tape like.... 10 years ago? So I think I can sort of appreciate the movie without comparing it so much to the original.

Investigative reporter Quarkboy :devil:. Its up to you, would be nice to have another opinion.

[Mazinkaizer]

I think I can sort of appreciate the movie without comparing it so much to the original.

Same here ! and i personally think that this the intention of this revised Edition. You can watch it as an upgraded (or downgraded if you wish) version of the original, but not to replace it. Weather you like it or not i guess that varies from someone to another.

Though i also would have preferred that they made another season of SAC series instead.

[Buster Darkwings]

I just hope that when they made this, they went and re-mastered the original version first. The Blu-ray release is better than the DVD, but it's definitely lacking.

Since GitS isn't getting a re-release on Blu-ray without the DVD version like Bandai Visual's other releases, I'm hoping they'll put it out on Blu-ray again along with the stupid 2.0 version. But of course they'll probably only put it in a box set with 2.0 to make you buy both even if you just want 1.0... blech.

[ZenAmako]

Just an allusion to Lucas and Bay, since people say they raped their childhoods, and while most of us were more likely to see GITS when they were teens.

Hmm, I first saw GitS at Anime East '95. That was... 13 years ago? Damn.

[Njr Scrawl]

Not so much a rape, more mutton being dressed as lamb. I'm not buying it, but would welcome a "1" version with the original music that was replaced with U2 & Japanese seiyuu credits, both which my Manga DVD (& sub VHS!) don't have.