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Icarus451
08-21-2008, 12:46 AM
Are you the type of anime fan who feels that it is okay to receive some specific details of a series in advance, or is your tolerance for spoilers fairly low?

We all know the Internet is a convenient place to search for information regarding a series, either through formal reviews or interacting with other fans. But it's also a place where people might slip up and give away things about a series that you didn't want to hear about.

Personally I try to avoid spoilers as much as possible, especially when i have to dig online for information about a series. There's nothing more disconcerting than having to lose the suspense of a series because another fan forgets to include a spoiler marking, or just flat out gives something away.

Shirachi
08-21-2008, 01:44 AM
I'm OK with spoilers, personally. Because I make it a (bad) habit of checking out the Wiki page if it has one and that almost always leads to some kind of spoiler, direct or indirect. I won't spoil something for someone else, but I'll do it for myself if I can't get a hold of a particular series for long; or if I get impatient.

Although with some series, say like Fantastic Children and Princess Tutu, I didn't for some reason or another.

Lego
08-21-2008, 02:29 AM
It depends really. I've gotten so used to following shows as they air that things really don't come as a surprise. For older shows that I might of missed the first time, things like Onegai Teacher or Vandread, I have a pretty good idea of what happens.

Draneor
08-21-2008, 06:42 AM
Personally, I mostly avoid all spoilers of any shape or form. That said, I do like to read up on popular shows which I have no desire to watch (like Code Geass). For those, please spoil away.

xia
08-21-2008, 06:42 AM
Funny the timing of this thread..

Just a few days ago on another forum I go to, Gurren Lagann was spoiled for me. I went on a tirade, and stopped going to the site. Maybe a bit too drastic, but i'm absolutely sick of spoilers and those inconsiderate jerks who dont relieze that not everyone has seen their favorite show.


Man, I have no tolerance for spoilers right now.

something
08-21-2008, 07:42 AM
Spoilers are unacceptable. They're rude for one, and more than a little arrogant - don't take it upon yourself (general 'you') to tell me what happens. I much prefer to let the show itself tell me, because it'll probably do it a lot better than you ever will.

So, no, spoilers are not okay.

That said, there's a difference between being spoiled and not being careful about where you're going online. I spend a lot of time on danbooru and moe.imouto knowing full well that there's potential for fanart to depict spoilers. If the latest episode of Anime X depicts Dramatic Scene Y, it's probably going to be depicted by artists, and that's legitimate. Oddly, though, as much as I hang around those sites, I haven't been spoiled very often and rarely on huge things. A combination of luck, and keeping on my toes, I think.

Spoilers are definitely one reason (among many) why I prefer to watch most shows as they first air, because it becomes a lot more difficult to be spoiled when you're watching the show 7 days (or hours) after it's aired, rather than 7 months (or three years).

The Great Bear
08-21-2008, 08:30 AM
I have a relatively high tolerance for spoilers, though I don't actively try to find out things before seeing them. I prefer to be unspoiled, especially about major plot points. Minor spoilers do not bother me too much, though I would rather not know about things that will happen.

I still like to see things for myself, so even if I know in outline what may happen at a certain point, I still would rather see it for myself, so many spoilers do not ruin a show for me.

That does not mean I approve of people spreading around spoilers. People really should be careful not to do so when they are talking about shows that not everyone has seen yet.

leongsh
08-21-2008, 08:37 AM
I've got a fairly high tolerance for spoilers. Spoilers don't really bother me that much. If a certain event is considered so significant that it's not worth watching the show if that event is spoiled, chances are the overall show is not much to begin with. I'm more interested in how the entire show plays out rather than any spoiler event.

something
08-21-2008, 08:52 AM
If a certain event is considered so significant that it's not worth watching the show if that event is spoiled, chances are the overall show is not much to begin with.
This sentiment is brought up in every single discussion ever held about spoilers, but I've always felt it missed the point. It's not about a single spoiler rendering an entire show moot, it's about spoilers taking away what is often a large part of what makes shows entertaining for a lot of people, myself included - the mystery, the tension, the fun of speculating with fellow fans and coming up with all sorts of theories. If you already know what happens, you lose a lot of that, at least for the event under consideration.

Just as bad, you lose the element of surprise. I have seen some things that just absolutely floored me, but if I'd known all about them ahead of time then of course the scene wouldn't mean as much. An anime is not something that just "exists", objectively, separate from its audience. A scene can be wonderfully animated and expertly acted and well written, but there's still a human being at the other end who has to take that scene in, and the actual experience of viewing the scene will depend on their circumstances. My surprise is, often, part of that experience, and it's not something the creators can directly control. It is not necessarily a comment on the quality of the show. So take that emotion away, and you've taken something away from the whole story, and from me, to some degree or another.

The Great Bear
08-21-2008, 08:59 AM
If a certain event is considered so significant that it's not worth watching the show if that event is spoiled, chances are the overall show is not much to begin with.This sentiment is brought up in every single discussion ever held about spoilers, but I've always felt it missed the point. It's not about a single spoiler rendering an entire show moot, it's about spoilers taking away what is often a large part of what makes shows entertaining for a lot of people, myself included - the mystery, the tension, the fun of speculating with fellow fans and coming up with all sorts of theories. If you already know what happens, you lose a lot of that, at least for the event under consideration.

While it could hold some truth for some shows, where the entire thing can rest upon one WTF?!? plot point, there are also many cases where I'd agree with something that the spoiler, while not ruining the show, does lessen the entertainment you derive from it, because the element of surprise is removed. There can be great pleasure derived from tension, uncertainty and doubt. If you remove that and replace it with assurance, you remove some of the idea that these characters have actual choices that they can make that will affect the course of the future. If what will happen is all predetermined, then what's the point of watching?

While a show that relies entirely on one big "Gotcha!" moment is probably not all that great to begin with, hardly any show will benefit from having the audience know exactly what is going to happen through the course of the narrative. Only some completely disconnected assemblage of vignettes might be unspoiled by advance knowledge. Otherwise, the uncertainty of the future and the illusion of choice are important elements that need to be maintained for any successful story.

Suwako Moriya
08-21-2008, 09:09 AM
I will admit there are times I will peek ahead and other times I'll try my best to avoid being spoiled. Often it depends on the series and my mind set on the show. In some ways I do understand the mindset that being spoiled lessens the enjoyment of a series. Yet I also believe that being spoiled should not make a series completely unwatchable. Hence I have mixed feelings on the issue.

That being said the decision to be "spoiled" should be a personal choice. It should not be forced on someone because someone decided it would be a brilliant (and by that I mean moronic) idea to spoil "Episode 26" in an "Episode 1" subthread. Even worse if the two in question are different series... What's worse is that has actually happened.

Still sometimes the blame goes the other way. If someone decides to read a subthread for episode 6 of Y then they should expect people are going to actually talk about episode 6 of Y. They get no sympathy from me if their actions cause episode 6 of Y to be spoiled.

Finally there is often the matter of what qualifies as a spoiler? On one hand I don't want people casually spoiling endings. However I also don't want a situation where I'm afraid to even say "_________ is my favorite character so far". I guess that's one issue to consider.

something
08-21-2008, 09:21 AM
Finally there is often the matter of what qualifies as a spoiler? On one hand I don't want people casually spoiling endings. However I also don't want a situation where I'm afraid to even say "_________ is my favorite character so far". I guess that's one issue to consider.
99% of this is common sense, but there are definitely ambiguous areas. If someone knows I loooooathe Character X in a harem romance show, and then I go around saying "I hate this show because of who wins", even if I don't explicitly put 2 and 2 together for people, I can still have inadvertantly spoiled it. It's also easier for someone to be spoiled if they know me and my tastes well, than if they have no idea who I am. And some things might not be a spoiler for someone who has seen none of a show, but it could be a spoiler for someone who knows a little about it, or has seen a few eps (or maybe the first season of a multi-season show, etc). So yes, there is that 1% that can definitely get tricky.

But on the whole? Just gotta be careful, that's all. A split second of reflection on what you're about to post before hitting 'Submit Reply' would eradicate the vast majority of spoiler posts. But too many people just don't give it even that much thought.

The worst are people who spoil from the original source material. At least if a spoiler comes from an episode that has aired, there's some chance I could have watched it for myself first. Doesn't make he spoiler any more acceptable of course. But when someone spoils the climax of a game/manga/novel when the anime is on episode 4... KILL. This is by far the most damaging type of spoiler in my view. There's not even the possibility of having seen it in the anime for yourself first when the episode doesn't exist yet!

omo
08-21-2008, 09:32 AM
To me it depends entirely on the title. Some titles I can care less, others I'm rather sensitive. A show that relies on surprises and dramatic twists and turns more so than one that is nigh predictable.

But I'll never get upset over them. Too often people who are spoiling just aren't aware of it.

LKK
08-21-2008, 09:32 AM
I hate with a passion to be unintentionally spoiled. :angry: If I want to be spoiled, I'll go look up the spoilers myself or flat out ask someone I know who knows. But to learn a spoiler that I didn't want to know ahead of time infuriates me. I'm wise enough to avoid places where I know spoilers are likely. It's the places where spoilers aren't expected to show up that I have the most trouble. On the other side of the coin, I work hard not to spoil other people unintentionally. I have done it on occasion, I'm sad to say. But I try to be very conscious about keeping spoilers under wraps and properly labeled in advance.

Suwako Moriya
08-21-2008, 09:58 AM
It's also easier for someone to be spoiled if they know me and my tastes well, than if they have no idea who I am.

Come to think of it, one time I was going to use an example in a thread, but hesitated. Simply because of the fact I figured that some would be able to put two and two together. So I understand what you're getting at here in some regards.

The worst are people who spoil from the original source material.

It would be nice if people remembered that sometimes the adaptation is the initial experience for many people. In many cases viewing the source material isn't really an option for me. Hence why I often have to hope for adaptations. Also since there are times adaptations decide to change things then well the spoilers end up not only being annoying, but kind of silly as well.

lesterf1020
08-21-2008, 10:56 AM
You guys also need to define what a spoiler is. I remember this debate showing up on a movie site blog. Is it really a spoiler if you talk about something from a popular 10 year old anime that has spawned a bunch of sequels? Is it really a spoiler to discover that the main character doesn't die in season one when season three is airing? If the info has no real impact on the main plot or characters is it really a huge deal? Can anyone really think that the identity of Luke Skywalker's dad should be considered a spoiler at this point?

I personally avoid what most people consider spoilers but I am only really peeved if the info will significantly change my viewing experience. For example, given the nature of the show I really doubt that any spoilers for Zero No Tsukaima will change the viewing experience for me so it doesn't bother me to hear them.

The Great Bear
08-21-2008, 11:05 AM
You guys also need to define what a spoiler is.

True, a spoiler to one person might very well be old news to someone else, if the show was first released a long time ago.

For our purposes here, any information regarding the future events of a show which has not been or not yet been completely released on DVD or broadcast outside of Japan that gives away important plot information would be a spoiler.

The example you give, of Main Character A not dying at the end of Season 1 of Anime XYZ when Season 3 is already in production, is a fair point. That is not much of a spoiler, as obviously, unless they decided to change the lead, you know the lead has to survive.

However, if they did, in fact, change the lead character after the end of Season 1 (rare, but not unheard of), then that information would be a major spoiler.

In the end, the best guide is common sense. People should think to themselves "If I had never seen this show before, would I really want someone else to tell me that this particular event happened?"

something
08-21-2008, 11:30 AM
You guys also need to define what a spoiler is. I remember this debate showing up on a movie site blog. Is it really a spoiler if you talk about something from a popular 10 year old anime that has spawned a bunch of sequels?
Technically, sure it is. A spoiler to me is finding out, without wanting to, information about events you have not yet seen yourself. But the majority of "spoilers" that people talk about are for relatively recent (either recently aired or recently licensed) series, of course. Past couple years, not 30 years.

Even so, it's dangerous trying to define a statute of limitations on spoilers. I haven't seen FMA yet, but that was created years ago. That doesn't mean it's any more okay to spoil the ending of that for me than it is to spoil this week's Code Geass R2 30 minutes after it's aired.

Some spoilers do, of course, just pass into the broader cultural consciousness. Your Star Wars example is the big one, obviously. But in general, you have to be careful about assuming "everyone knows!" since that's quite unfair to new fans, especially in a small niche like anime. I don't know that I'd consider any anime of quite the stature of universal familiarity to make it a fair target for untagged, uninhibited spoiling. Maybe the end of Cowboy Bebop is as well known among anime fans as Luke Skywalker's lineage is among the general public, but that's thanks to a meme that spread, not anything inherent to the show itself.

So does it sometimes seem a little silly to hide things from "classic" shows, but it's just called being respectful. I have never seen the legendary classic Gunbuster, and I honestly do not know how it ends. And yeah, I'd be pretty miffed if someone spoiled me. And yeah, I'd be entirely justified in feeling miffed.

Is it really a spoiler to discover that the main character doesn't die in season one when season three is airing?
This is the difference between watching something when it's new, and watching something when it's not. If I'm buying season one of three of a show, and they've all been released, and the main character is clearly on the box art for all three seasons, then sure, I'm not going to be surprised when he survives that apparent death scene at the end of season one.

That's why I so prefer watching shows as they air, so that the "Well, duh, of course 'x' happens/doesn't happen" mindset doesn't come into play - because it might not have been "duh" at the time! And even something that seems obvious in hindsight can be a hugely pleasant experience the first time, if you didn't know.

One particular scene in Lucky Star was "OMGHOLY SHIT MY MIND JUST EXPLODED FROM THE AWESOME" when I first saw it. But Bandai goes and has it prominently featured in their trailers for the show. Ditto on the big scene from ep 12 of Haruhi. It'll still be a great scene for the new fans, but it won't evoke quite the same reaction in people who saw the trailer first as it did for me.

For example, given the nature of the show I really doubt that any spoilers for Zero No Tsukaima will change the viewing experience for me so it doesn't bother me to hear them.
The nature of the show absolutely matters, yes. Spoil the end of Code Geass for me, and I'll strangle you. Spoil the next episode of Hidamari Sketch, and it probably won't have too much of an impact. But I'd still prefer not to know ahead of time, and that goes for any show. Being spoiled is never better for me, even for the most inane slice of life "nothing happens" show.

DKL
08-21-2008, 11:31 AM
God kills a masturbater every time you spoil something.

Classical
08-21-2008, 03:01 PM
I have mixed feelings in regards to spoilers. I would really prefer not to be spoiled on something that I haven't yet seen or found out about in an anime. On the other hand I have a curiosity that I sometimes have trouble keeping in check, so I sometimes wind up looking at spoilers. I have no problem with spoilers when I'm warned and want to look at them, but when I'm inadvertently spoiled (ie without warning) I do have an issue with that. As far as posting spoilers goes, I try to be considerate and use spoiler tags when posting impressions of an anime series, even if it's an old series.

EmperorBrandon
08-21-2008, 03:35 PM
I think as with many here, I would rather not be spoiled on things. How much I want to avoid them usually depends on my anticipation and interest in a series. For series I'm really liking or will likely check out, I tend to try and go out of my way to avoid spoilers as much as possible, even on the small things. If I'm not very interested in a series, I may not bother as much to avoid them. Still, people should always at least try to use caution anywhere on the internet when posting details of the story or what happens in an episode, out of courtesy for others. I know I haven't been perfect on it, and no one is, but it is something to keep in mind.

That said, I don't think I've ever been "ruined" by spoilers. As I was watching through Cardcaptor Sakura, I did get spoiled on a few things, but really most of the plot (particularly things that I found exciting when I got to them) I wasn't spoiled on and the things I was spoiled on were never really a big deal (though one I wish was more of a surprise). I guess I can count myself as prudent or at least lucky with most of my favorite series. You certainly can get different things out of a series not knowing what will happen and then knowing what will happen - it is good to experience both, especially with series that have interesting plots and characters.

HitokiriShadow
08-21-2008, 05:54 PM
I have a very low tolerance for spoilers. I don't want to know what is going to happen ahead of time. I generally avoid next ep previews for this reason. Exactly how much I care varies on a case by case basis and the nature of the series, of course, but I'd prefer to avoid even the smallest of spoilers. The problem with "small" spoilers is that they can be additional knowledge to draw conclusions from. A spoiler might seem small, but it influences any thoughts you might have about what's coming up. Sometimes its not a big deal and sometimes it can tip off something that should be a surprise.



While a show that relies entirely on one big "Gotcha!" moment is probably not all that great to begin with, hardly any show will benefit from having the audience know exactly what is going to happen through the course of the narrative.

And then there are shows like Higurashi, in which piecing things together is part of the experience. And this really goes for any series in which there is a mystery element. (the following is aimed at leonsh and people that think like that, not TGB) I think its completely insane to suggest that people shouldn't care about being spoiled on that kind of thing (or anything, for that matter) or that the series must be crap if being spoiled on it is a big deal.

"Ruining" the series from being spoiled doesn't mean the show is bad by any means. It means that the experience has been soured from knowing what is going to happen. It circumvents the experience the series is trying to create. As something said, saying that it "ruins the series" or "makes the show not worth watching" completely misses the point.

Serial Experiments Nobue
08-21-2008, 06:32 PM
Spoilers are unacceptable. They're rude for one, and more than a little arrogant - don't take it upon yourself (general 'you') to tell me what happens. I much prefer to let the show itself tell me, because it'll probably do it a lot better than you ever will.

So, no, spoilers are not okay.

That about sums up my take on it, too. I discover new shows based on story and creative staff mostly, and I've now reached the point where I don't even read the backs of DVD packaging anymore and I avoid episode titles if possible before I see a series. I want my first time through a series to be with absolutely no idea of what I am in for.

I never understood the excitement of the whole "oh wow, I can't wait until episode 16 when XX tells YY that they are long lost siblings and that everything up until then was a dream!" school of thought of watching a series. It sort of defeats the purpose of watching a show and learning for yourself what events are going to unfold. To me that takes all of the fun and enjoyment out of it.

My philosophy on posting about show and movie content here is "when in doubt, spoiler-tag it".

Sorrow's Companion
08-23-2008, 12:46 AM
I don't mind spoilers. I was a long time Newtype reader, and they had a whole section dedicated to them basically. In fact, most print media have spoilers in them when talking about the a show. So having fans talk about them doesn't bother me.

Njr Scrawl
08-23-2008, 12:18 PM
Depends on what's being spoiled. I think the first big impact on me was End of Evangelion when I read a magazine article about what happened, to who & an interview with Anno about it. In that case, the pre-knowledge actually made me want to know more & see the movie, to see how things happened, if it was done with feeling, & how I felt about it.

I watch anime for its characters, so if a main one I like is affected in a big way, for good or bad, I like to know in advance. Having said that there are some shows where a good/enjoyable surprise boosts my enjoyment & the feeling of relief/happiness on seeing something I had not known about happen is part of the experience. Gunbuster is a good example.

Ryos
08-23-2008, 12:37 PM
I don't like spoilers for anything, which is why I try to avoid threads for something I haven't seen as much as possible. I still remember the (#*$&*#( $ Best Buy cashier who spoiled a part of like the next to last episode of Eureka 7 when I went and bought the last two volumes. I was not amused. :\

For reviews in general I focus on the overall synopsis and skip over content altogether for similar reasons.

musouka
08-23-2008, 12:39 PM
I love spoilers and actively seek them out. I can't think of a single moment in anything I've ever watched where the impact has been wrecked because I spoiled myself. I know other people feel strongly about being spoiled, so I try to be courteous to them, but for me personally it's not a big deal at all.

EDIT: The only exceptions to the above are shows like Higurashi where you're encouraged to think the show out for yourself. But that's not because of impact, that's because it's a matter of audience participation, and looking up spoilers is cheating.

populuxe
08-23-2008, 12:46 PM
I hate spoilers. I avoid them as best I can. It's because of spoilers that I don't even look up specific series on Wikipedia if I haven't seen it yet. I made the mistake of reading about My-Hime on Wikipedia when it was being released and learned about the fate of two characters that spoiled the show for me. I bought all seven discs, but I haven't watched anything past the third. There's no suspense any more.

Several years ago, I accidentally read a major spoiler about Revolutionary Girl Utena on this forum (it was even tagged as a spoiler so it was my fault). But once I read the spoiler, I couldn't unread it. Even though I read it two years before the show even came out on DVD, all I could do while watching the last volume was wait for it to happen, which took the joy out of the show for me.

LelouchLamperouge
08-23-2008, 01:19 PM
Spoilers don't bother me at all. I can hold my short-term memory loss accountable for that. Besides, I have to wait almost a year (or longer) anyways for legit DVDs, so it really doesn't bother me.

Nork22
08-24-2008, 12:26 AM
I have a high tolerance for spoilers. Sometimes I want to be spoil because with some shows it's not worth my time nor patience to see what goes on from episodes X-Y. However in saying that, if I don't want to be spoil, I can easily ignore everything. Heck, there are times where someone spoiled things for me, but I can easily forget about it in a couple of days.

Splitter
08-24-2008, 02:36 AM
If you're an avid otaku, they're unavoidable. Swallow your pride if you stumble across one. I've found the best way to keep from not spoiling shows you're currently watching is not to discuss them until you've finished them. I learned that the hard way with FMA... god, I think every major spoiler was spoiled for me with that series. Still loved it though.

Musi
08-25-2008, 08:38 AM
I think we kuldn't go read the notice about films or other. It's better when you see a film and u have a surprise etc... wehn you still know the end... you kan't go right inside to the trame...

Musi
08-25-2008, 08:40 AM
I think we kuldn't go read the notice about films or other. It's better when you see a film and u have a surprise etc... wehn you still know the end... you kan't go right inside to the trame...

:catgirl:

Suwako Moriya
08-25-2008, 10:31 AM
Here's one thing to consider about the idea that being spoiled ruins an "anime". A lot of anime are in point of fact adaptations of already existing material. Thus if you assume the anime is made to attract not just completely new fans, but fans of the source material as well. Which means for the latter type of fan the fact they're technically spoiled is what helps motivate them to watch the anime.

Granted the main problem is sometimes adaptations like to change things. Other times it's less an adaptation and more of an extension of the source. Thus I suppose knowledge of the source material has limited effect either way. That of course is a given, I suppose.

The reason I bring this up is I've been reading a certain manga and if the said anime adaptation has any respect for the source material then the anime will end up being one of the best series of the fall to me. Okay then again it's possible the manga itself is an adapatation too. So perhaps I should say I guess if the manga is any real indication of how the anime will be then the anime will be awesome. Granted I also have to hope the manga and the source material (which may be the novel) don't fall apart either...

In any case for the record I'm not trying to justify spoiling people, but to show that in some regards spoiling or rather having knowledge ahead time does in some ways have its benefits. Then again there's a huge difference between having the manga before watching the anime vs having the manga you never read spoiled for you. After all if you read the manga for yourself at least you got to truly experience it the first time yourself in some form.

Also I suppose sometimes knowledge of source materials and earlier adaptations can back fire. Especially since it makes it easier to tell when the anime has no respect for the source material and essentially spits on the face of it. In some cases if the anime is good on its own merits the differences (even if major won't kill it), but if the anime is on the meh side then the differences will only make things worse in the long run.

In the end through I guess the entire reason for mentioning this in general is that in some ways when we talk about spoilers, it would be good to take into consideration the issue of things like source material, adaptations, and how they effect things as well for various people. Okay I suppose there's also things like alternate tellings such as the Nanoha movie.

Draneor
08-25-2008, 10:39 AM
The reason I bring this up is I've been reading a certain manga and if the said anime adaptation has any respect for the source material then the anime will end up being one of the best series of the fall to me. Okay then again it's possible the manga itself is an adapatation too. So perhaps I should say I guess if the manga is any real indication of how the anime will be then the anime will be awesome. Granted I also have to hope the manga and the source material (which may be the novel) don't fall apart either...

And yet you don't spoil the name of the series. :( Now I kind of want to know what it is.

But yes, I think the best way to watch an anime is when you are already familiar with as much of the franchise as possible. This can be difficult if not impossible at times though (it's not like I could have gone to the Suzumiya Haruhi no Gekisō concert).

Fudce
08-25-2008, 10:45 AM
Spoilers are unacceptable. They're rude for one, and more than a little arrogant - don't take it upon yourself (general 'you') to tell me what happens. I much prefer to let the show itself tell me, because it'll probably do it a lot better than you ever will.

So, no, spoilers are not okay.

That is the line that I take too.


Some may know that I've been very outspoken against any who even come close to revealing spoilers recently, and that is because some have been getting very lax at hiding them. In the review thread for Shuffle Volume 1 somebody felt the need to spoil something that happened in a MUCH later volume, considering it fine to completely spoil one of the biggest surprises in the series. It was not fine. I was looking forward to fully exploring and enjoying my first ever viewing of a series that I had heard good things about - but no, now I knew the secret - so my enjoyment was reduced.

Spoilers for a future volume are never acceptable in a discussion thread about an earlier volume, and even discussion about spoilerworthy things in a discussion thread about the volume it happens in should be hidden behind [spoiler] tags.


It isn't a case of being right or wrong about your personal view of what is or isn't a spoiler, but it's a case of being polite to those who may have a different view on the subject to yourself. It's like posting information about possible upcoming events in Slayers:Revolution, or posting out of the correct episode's sub-thread. It's polite to follow the house rules, when you're in somebody elses house.

Suwako Moriya
08-25-2008, 11:35 AM
And yet you don't spoil the name of the series. :( Now I kind of want to know what it is.

The series in question would be "ToraDora". Also I guess an alternative choice would be "Kannagi". Since in both cases it was recommended I check out a bit of the manga to get a feel for the series. Thus resulting in me looking forward to their anime adaptations. Although it was mainly ToraDora that came to mind because I just recently finished reading chapter 11. Granted I suppose I may have looked forward to the adaptations even with reading some of the manga, but regardless reading a bit did help provide some of the motivation.

Of course there's also the reversal. I'm collecting the Sunshine Sketch Manga because I've watched the Sunshine Sketch anime and am currently watching the Sunshine Sketch X 365 the second season of the anime. Then of course there's Sketchbook ~full colors'~ which has lead me to reading the Sketchbook manga. Which as soon as someone with a heart actually licenses the manga it will be yet another manga that I need to collect as well. So I guess sometimes adaptations lead to interest in the source material or at least earlier adaptations.

Draneor
08-25-2008, 12:17 PM
The series in question would be "ToraDora".

Ah, I've been looking forward to a ToraDora anime since I first saw Taiga's character design a couple years back, but I haven't actually read any of it yet (though I do want to). So I'm going into this mostly blind. Well, with the understanding that I know I will love it if I do watch it.

The problem is I don't know if I can afford to. Given CLANNAD ~AFTER STORY~ and ef - a tale of melodies are must buys and I am considering getting Akane Iro ni Somaru Saka (not to mention Zero no Tsukaima: Princesses no Rondo and Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu--along with a couple OVAs--will still be ongoing when the first volume of ToraDora comes out)... I may need to sit this one out. One should never watch more anime than one can afford if one happens to have a tendency towards obsession for those things one loves.


Of course there's also the reversal. I'm collecting the Sunshine Sketch Manga because I've watched the Sunshine Sketch anime and am currently watching the Sunshine Sketch X 365 the second season of the anime. Then of course there's Sketchbook ~full colors'~ which has lead me to reading the Sketchbook manga. Which as soon as someone with a heart actually licenses the manga it will be yet another manga that I need to collect as well. So I guess sometimes adaptations lead to interest in the source material or at least earlier adaptations.

I do this all the time. Except sometimes I'll pick up the original once I discover the property because of the anime. Hayate no Gotoku was that way. I had no idea Viz was publishing it until I saw the anime. Now, I have through volume 15 and 8. ^^U Still, it is nice to go into an anime already familiar with the source, such as I did with Mahou Sensei Negima!?. Even if the anime ends up being a bit of a coconut crab, it's interesting to see how they compare. I will admit that I was partly disappointed in Kanokon because I had read part of the manga before I watch it. Sometimes, it's best not to get one's hopes up, I guess.