View Full Version : How much does watching "broadcast" anime spoil your 1st DVD viewing of a show?
Njr Scrawl
08-21-2008, 07:30 AM
If you've watched a shown downloaded or streamed or TV, provided its the same language etc, how much does the earlier viewing spoil your first DVD viewing of the same show?
something
08-21-2008, 07:37 AM
What do you mean by "spoil"? I assume you don't mean in terms of "spoilers", because the obvious answer is that of course you're "spoiled" if you've already watched it, but that's too obvious to be worth a mention. If you mean "spoil" as in "ruin" then I really don't see how. If I bought it, then obviously I liked it, so watching it again can't ruin it unless the show itself just doesn't hold up well - and in that case it's got nothing to do with what format you saw it in.
Assuming the DVD is well done, it should be at least as good an experience. Might even be slightly better if the DVD version had cleaned up video, or DVD-only episodes I never got around to watching.
I just see it as a rewatch. You're making a distinction between seeing it downloaded or on TV first, then on DVD, but for me it's just two viewings of the same show.
I guess I just am not quite sure what you're asking.
The Great Bear
08-21-2008, 08:33 AM
I just see it as a rewatch. You're making a distinction between seeing it downloaded or on TV first, then on DVD, but for me it's just two viewings of the same show.
That's basically how I see it as well. If the DVD viewing is not my first viewing, then it's a rewatch, no different than doing a DVD rewatch when I saw the show first on DVD. If I am rewatching it, it's more than likely that I enjoyed it the first time so much that I want to see it again. I don't see how that second viewing can be "spoiled" in any way.
GrateSaiyaman
08-21-2008, 09:19 AM
Spoil it?
Not in the least. This is how I make buying decisions. If it's good enough to make me want to watch it again, I know that I'll probably get the DVDs or BDs when I can. "Broadcast" looks/watching can keep me from getting a lame box or a disc that takes up shelf space and keep me from getting burned out on bad or mediocre anime . . . and there is A LOT of bad or mediocre anime.
I got sucked in on a couple of shows that turned out to be turds after a few episodes . . . and it isn't just anime that this works for . . . with broadcast and free streaming video, a person can cull the crap easier. Hopefully they stop hiring people that continuously make "crap".
It's a great way to improve quality.
;)
Suwako Moriya
08-21-2008, 05:17 PM
Given that often I decide what to buy on "DVD" based on the "broadcast" for lack of a better term, I can't really make any claim about it spoiling me...:sweat:
Serial Experiments Nobue
08-21-2008, 06:44 PM
Not a whole lot, actually.
As some have mentioned, I look at it mostly as a rewatch (though I watch DVDs in Japanese while TV airings are in English), and often by the time I get the series in question on DVD I've forgotten many details of what I had watched on TV before anyway. :sweat:
One practice that I do have is that if I see a series on TV that catches my interest and I intend to get on DVD, I will not watch the last 5 or so episodes so that my first DVD run will have a full payoff on the finale. Many of the series in my collection I may never have gotten had I not seen them on Adult Swim first.
EmperorBrandon
08-21-2008, 08:31 PM
If you've watched a shown downloaded or streamed or TV, provided its the same language etc, how much does the earlier viewing spoil your first DVD viewing of the same show?
Well, in many cases where I've watched a show before in non-DVD form and later buy the R1 release, I've only watched through the show once, and it's been a while. The show tends to be decently fresh for me when I watch it again, and I still enjoy collecting them a lot. Not that I haven't had some successful blind buys too, but this sometimes works out with the best. I'm happier getting series that I know that I will like. There are also series that really benefit on the second viewing, as knowing what's coming ahead can provide an interesting view point when watching again, as I have already mentioned in the "spoiler" thread.
Suwako Moriya
08-21-2008, 09:32 PM
Also there is the fact the gap between initial watch and dvd watch can vary quite a bit. As well as how many times I've watched a series. Granted often it's stuff I've re-watched quite a bit that I have a strong desire to see on DVD.
Fencedude
08-21-2008, 09:46 PM
If you've watched a shown downloaded or streamed or TV, provided its the same language etc, how much does the earlier viewing spoil your first DVD viewing of the same show?
I'm not seeing the point of the question.
Its like asking, "how does your first DVD viewing spoil your second DVD viewing?"
If you've watched a shown downloaded or streamed or TV, provided its the same language etc, how much does the earlier viewing spoil your first DVD viewing of the same show?
I'm not seeing the point of the question.
Its like asking, "how does your first DVD viewing spoil your second DVD viewing?"
We should adapt a cookie system for the boards like we have over at N-Philes...
Fluffy
08-21-2008, 10:08 PM
If you've watched a shown downloaded or streamed or TV, provided its the same language etc, how much does the earlier viewing spoil your first DVD viewing of the same show?Anime is like porn: no matter how many times you think of that same old poster of Farrah Fawcett in that red bathing suit with those stiletto nipples and feathered hair, you still get hard.
Not much really. I tend to buy based off what I watch via broadcast.
Njr Scrawl
08-22-2008, 09:49 AM
"Just a rewatch" shows the joy of watching the show you now "own" on the media you bought has been dulled.
OTOH I guess finally being able to watch a show as many times, & how you like adds a pleasure not experienced before.
Rental comes somewhere in-between.....
Fencedude
08-22-2008, 09:54 AM
"Just a rewatch" shows the joy of watching the show you now "own" on the media you bought has been dulled.
OTOH I guess finally being able to watch a show as many times, & how you like adds a pleasure not experienced before.
Rental comes somewhere in-between.....
Are you implying that watching on DVD is the only "legit" way of watching?
Serial Experiments Nobue
08-22-2008, 11:07 AM
"Just a rewatch" shows the joy of watching the show you now "own" on the media you bought has been dulled.
Well, in my case I usually go a few years between rewatches, so none of the joy is dulled since often I forget many of the details that made me enjoy the show in question so much in the first place.
Rewatching doesn't have to be a negative thing. If I didn't enjoy a show, why would I bother watching it again? I think that rewatching a series shows that I enjoyed it enough to want to experience it again. And in some cases, my second viewing gave me an appreciation that I didn't get the first time around.
Suwako Moriya
08-22-2008, 11:14 AM
Rewatching doesn't have to be a negative thing.
In general I find re-watching to be a very positive sign. Which begs the question. So I have a series where I've done the following. Watched the 4:3 broadcast, watched the 4:3 raws, watched the 4:3 sub you know, plan to watch the 16:9 raws, and possibly the 16:9 subs. If/When the DVDs come out, I will definitely watch those as well. Including of course the dub assuming the series is deemed worthy of being dubbed... So uh in terms of so called spoiling you can do your own calculation.:P
Njr Scrawl
08-22-2008, 11:14 AM
"Just a rewatch" shows the joy of watching the show you now "own" on the media you bought has been dulled.
OTOH I guess finally being able to watch a show as many times, & how you like adds a pleasure not experienced before.
Rental comes somewhere in-between.....
Are you implying that watching on DVD is the only "legit" way of watching?
No. You're missing the point. :) To me, anyway, part of the fun of watching a new volume is 1) Its new story 2) Its mine 3) I don't know what to expect, so the element of "discovery" is there (unless I read certain companies' back covers by accident :angry: )
Fencedude
08-22-2008, 11:28 AM
No. You're missing the point. :) To me, anyway, part of the fun of watching a new volume is 1) Its new story 2) Its mine 3) I don't know what to expect, so the element of "discovery" is there (unless I read certain companies' back covers by accident :angry: )
And I get much the same out of a new episode each week.
something
08-22-2008, 04:20 PM
To me, anyway, part of the fun of watching a new volume is 1) Its new story 2) Its mine 3) I don't know what to expect, so the element of "discovery" is there
It's a new story when I watch the latest episode airing in Japan too. And I don't know what to expect when I start up a new episode that just aired either. As for the "it's mine", that's a nice feeling to have when it does eventually get R1s and I buy them, but it doesn't have anything to do with how much I like the show.
You're assuming that the existence of the physical, purchased consumer product (as opposed to other methods) influences the experience of the show. This is not true for me. I do like having a physical package in my hands and seeing it on my shelf, but that doesn't make me enjoy the show any more or less.
I'm watching a show, plain and simple.
russ869
08-22-2008, 07:47 PM
I don't like to buy things I know nothing about. So I have to discover something before I watch it. Therefore I'm not (usually) discovering a show as I watch the DVD. (At least not in the begining) But I usually do pay more attention when watching a DVD and discover new things I didn't notice before. A broadcast view or download episode is just my way of sampling enough to know if I want to buy it. Any show that I feel like I'll want to watch more than once counts in the BUY category for me.
For me the existence of the physical, purchased consumer product does influence the experience of the show. (at least partly) And I don't pay money for something that's not a physical object. (DVD, CD, manga book, etc.)
Fluffy
08-22-2008, 10:03 PM
To me, anyway, part of the fun of watching a new volume is 1) Its new story 2) Its mine 3) I don't know what to expect, so the element of "discovery" is there [...]You're assuming that everyone that watches fan-subs, raws or the original broadcast turns around and buys the DVDs. Which is wrong. Besides watching the original broadcast or a "streaming version" off the 'Net, the experience you describe above is the same if you're downloading a fan-sub or the Raw:
>>1) Its new story
Same with a fan-sub/Raw. New story.
>>2) Its mine
Same with a fan-sub/Raw. It's yours.
>>3) I don't know what to expect, so the element of "discovery" is there
Same with a fan-sub/Raw. New story, it's yours and you don't know what is going to happen next week. It's all the same. We're all perplexed as to why you can't see this. Your original question should have been this:
How often do you RE-WATCH a show that you've seen on fan-subs, Raw, broadcast, stream, Betamax or DVD and does the first viewing diminish your experience the second time around?
In other words: no matter the media you first viewed the anime (fan-sub, VHS, BetaMax, Internet streaming or DVD), is it better or worse the second time you view it?
Ta-dah.
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