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Suwako Moriya
09-02-2008, 01:20 PM
Often in a series there will be certain plot elements that save for a few exceptions are only a matter of time. However for whatever reason the story does its best to delay these plot elements. The length of the delay can vary. Sometimes the plot element is delayed merely until the third episode, other times the half way point, other times for the end of the series, and well sometimes it seems like they'd keep delaying it even in season 17.

Delaying plot elements in of itself is not always a bad thing. Simply because you can't expect everything to happen in the first episode. Also there are ways to do it that the delay isn't so noticeable as it were. However the problem is when done wrong the "delay" syndrome has an extremely negative effect.

First, you have characters being stunted in terms of growth and development just to make sure things never move forward. A classic example is making one or both of the leads as dense as possible. Add in high levels of denial, misunderstandings, etc. All to make sure nothing really happens and if it does well there's always....

The Reset Button! Which brings us to the second thing. Just when you think progress is being made in that regard, they do something to ruin it. A misunderstanding happens causing everything to fall apart. Someone finds some way to hide the truth. Or perhaps the classic "memory loss" scene happens. The later it is in the series the more frustrating the reset button becomes. Especially when it's done near the end.

I find part of the problem can likely be described in one word "fear". The fear of "If we actually move the plot forward then what are we supposed to do after that?" which leads to the conclusion of "If we just keep delaying things, we'll never have to think about point C. We just have to remain in point A and never truly reach point B". Seriously I'm starting to think that's the case sometimes.

I find the "delay" aspect isn't so bad in shows where they do the following. Instead of playing the "Things will finally start happening.... just kidding" card, they instead handle it in such a way that it feels likes they're progressing towards the event rather than delay it. Granted the key is making sure the event actually happens and a time that's well reasonable for the said event.

I'm not sure if I'm the only one who sometimes gets annoyed by the delay syndrome, but regardless thinking in regards to both recent and past series has forced me to essentially bring up the issue and comment on what I find to be a glaring problem that plagues many an anime. Plus I am curious to see what people think of the "delay" syndrome. Also if there's another term for it, then go ahead and let us know. I just made that up on the spot since it mainly boils down to delaying things story wise.

vtr9kvictor
09-03-2008, 02:39 AM
I like to call this the "Ranma 1/2 Syndrome".

Buckeye
09-03-2008, 07:07 AM
I like to call this the "Ranma 1/2 Syndrome".
For that matter, I see this syndrome common in long series.

Fudce
09-03-2008, 07:36 AM
I like to call this the "Ranma 1/2 Syndrome".
For that matter, I see this syndrome common in long series.

It's common in both short and long series, but it's more noticable on long series.

Mateo_home
09-03-2008, 10:40 AM
Like filler episodes? I guess it's okay as long as it's entertaining and doesn't screw up the main plot. Or at least tries to tie it in.

Oh about delays, I guess one thing I find annoying about it goes on longer than it should or if it keeps repeating the same thing again and again. I think that's what was a turn-off for me in the Love Hina manga. Those chase scenes in the later volumes. Ugh. Make it stop. Somebody please make it stop. At least it's finished.:P

karen0586
09-03-2008, 10:44 AM
I like to call this the "Ranma 1/2 Syndrome".
For that matter, I see this syndrome common in long series.

It's common in both short and long series, but it's more noticable on long series.
I agree... especially in manga. it seems like they are just making sure the manga keeps running because it is popular and will keep netting them money if they just keep things the same. I'm tired of that. :relief:

Suwako Moriya
09-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Like filler episodes?

Granted I often don't agree with people in regards to what counts as filler since I find the term abused. However yeah true filler that's a complete waste of time and serves no purpose would count as part of the delay syndrome.

Oh about delays, I guess one thing I find annoying about it goes on longer than it should or if it keeps repeating the same thing again and again.

Going in circles (repeating) seems to be the basic strategy for making sure things last as long as possible. It's also rather cruel because you keep thinking that it's finally the moment and they pull the "just kidding" moment.

populuxe
09-03-2008, 12:23 PM
I don't think the "delay" syndrome is any different than the "will they or won't they" style of American sitcoms. It's a way to drag out a premise without having to upset the delicate balance of the various characters until fans get tired of waiting.

Rolancehack
09-03-2008, 12:28 PM
I like to call this the "Rumiko Takahashi syndrome".

not to be annoying, but I think I fixed it for you.

And yes this annoys me. Shonan Jump series are notoriously bad at this:
DBZ and it's 20 some episode 5 minutes
Naruto and it's filler (arguable lessened in the manga, though Sai is basically filler in his first arc)
Bleach and the Soul Society arc was murder (Ichigo runs up, gets in a fight, then trains, repeat ad nauseum)
Tournament arcs in general are a story delay (and I hate them, the tournament arc in Tokyo Underground ruined that anime)

I will say relationship anime/manga is where this is sort of forgivable, simply because if not for the tension they'd be pretty boring. Though I would like to see a series where one of the leads actually just shot someone down that was trying to interfer with their relationship, and it didn't lead to some drama between the leads.

Suwako Moriya
09-03-2008, 12:54 PM
It's a way to drag out a premise without having to upset the delicate balance of the various characters until fans get tired of waiting.

Perhaps, but it seems in some cases we get tired of waiting long before they're even thinking about moving forward. Granted a lot of anime has a set number of episodes, but if they wait until 25 of 26 to move things forward that doesn't give much time to work with. I understand why plot points get delayed, I just want the delay handled in a way that's well less glaring. Ie a build up to the goal rather than a case of running in circles.