View Full Version : Who is the baddest bad guy in anime?
populuxe
09-08-2008, 05:29 PM
I'll let you make your own definition of "bad guy." Of course women can be bad guys, too. Who is the baddest of the bad? It is some tough guy from a shonen anime? A devious manipulator from a shoujo anime? Are your favorite bad guys sympathetic? You can at least understand why they are the way they are? What do you think?
bluesilo
09-08-2008, 05:32 PM
ignore me
cutliquidsnake
09-08-2008, 05:36 PM
IMO, Light Yagami is the biggest ass hole I've seen in an anime. I'm not gonna spoil anything, but he did some sickening things that really pissed me off.
My favourite bad guy ever though...I can't think of one at the moment.
evilarrex
09-08-2008, 05:51 PM
Hrmmm this is a tough one. I'm gonna go with something obscure.
Count D from "Petshop of Horrors" - selling "pets" to people whom you know are gonna get burnt by them is nasty. Plus he gets a kick out of it. Its not a globe-spanning meglomaniac kind of evil - but just pure petty evil.
populuxe
09-08-2008, 06:11 PM
Here area a few I consider Very Bad Men:
Jinsaku Ajo of Key the Metal Idol because he killed Sakura. The most senseless and gut-wrenching death in anime.
Mr. Carpenter/Joker of R.O.D the TV. There's nothing more dangerous than someone who believes they are completely right.
Akio Ohtori of Revolutionary Girl Utena. The perfect manipulator.
Mr. Nail Bat
09-08-2008, 07:50 PM
I'll let you make your own definition of "bad guy."
Okay, but how about the definition of "baddest"? "Evil" bad, or "badass" bad?
If it's the former, then I'll say the would-be rapist cop from the second(?) episode of Hell Girl (part of the reason I detest that series).
If it's the latter, then it's Shockwave Alberto from Giant Robo, with a close second place to Ashram from Record of Lodoss War.
Fluffy
09-08-2008, 09:57 PM
I've seen plenty, but the one "lead bad guy" that comes to my mind is Gates (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=7134) from Full Metal Panic!: The Second Raid. His insane flippant disregard for cartoon human life was beyond my normal level of alcohol intake. I couldn't drink enough to understand him.
Rolancehack
09-08-2008, 10:28 PM
Hrmmm this is a tough one. I'm gonna go with something obscure.
Count D from "Petshop of Horrors" - selling "pets" to people whom you know are gonna get burnt by them is nasty. Plus he gets a kick out of it. Its not a globe-spanning meglomaniac kind of evil - but just pure petty evil.
He sold those pets to teach people a lesson, and to punish them for their evil. Count wasn't a bad guy.
As for my picks:
Lagato from Trigun: He made Vash kill him just to break Vash's spirit, one of the most brutal things I think I've seen
Hisoka from Hunter X Hunter: He's just freaky, and bad ass enough to back up his freaky
Griffith From Berserk: See why he did what he did made the whole series.
Kouji Tamino
09-08-2008, 10:54 PM
Gargoyle from Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water. Unbelievably cold and cruel with a blatant disregard for human life.
otherjohn
09-08-2008, 10:55 PM
I've seen plenty, but the one "lead bad guy" that comes to my mind is Gates (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=7134) from Full Metal Panic!: The Second Raid. His insane flippant disregard for cartoon human life was beyond my normal level of alcohol intake. I couldn't drink enough to understand him.
I'm glad you chimed in on TSR, since I was going to nominate Gates for said disregard for the lives of others (especially his own subordinates), but I was also going to nominate Gauron for <here I decline to mention specifics in case anyone reading this hasn't seen Full Metal Panic yet, but for those of you who have, you know what I mean about total bad-assedness>.
Gauron: I love you, Kashim! <Pummel!>
<unrelated ref pause>
Kakihara: There's no love in your punches.
the confusing other john
:) <---but it makes sense if you think about it!
Zero Kyori
09-08-2008, 11:38 PM
Ganossa Maximillion from Silent Mobius.
mitamaking
09-09-2008, 12:24 AM
Most evil bad guy? Frieza did kill Dende so that is evil...
Wait is Lelouch a bad guy, I really root against him so he is a really good bad guy.
I know
Murokumo from Blue Seed.
Zeether
09-09-2008, 12:45 AM
Joker from ROD.
He BURNED a crapload of books and killed Nancy's baby
M4730
09-09-2008, 01:05 AM
I've seen plenty, but the one "lead bad guy" that comes to my mind is Gates (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=7134) from Full Metal Panic!: The Second Raid. His insane flippant disregard for cartoon human life was beyond my normal level of alcohol intake. I couldn't drink enough to understand him.
Heh, I jumped into this thread seeing if anyone would mention him. I'd have been glad to add him to the list if you hadn't, heh. The last episode...my God..."Woops! Damned thing broke!"
GundamWingMan
09-09-2008, 03:12 AM
Nakago from Fushigi Yugi. Pretty boy looks but a heart colder than an iceberg, he just radiated pure evil.
Fencedude
09-09-2008, 03:24 AM
I am currently THOROUGHLY enjoying the main villain in Macross Frontier. Even saying who they are is something of a spoiler, so FUCKING GRACE!
stfram
09-09-2008, 03:36 AM
I've seen plenty, but the one "lead bad guy" that comes to my mind is Gates (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=7134) from Full Metal Panic!: The Second Raid. His insane flippant disregard for cartoon human life was beyond my normal level of alcohol intake. I couldn't drink enough to understand him.
Gates is awesome. Period. End of Discussion.
He is the villain that villains dream of being. I still giggle when I think of some of his antics, then I get...very quiet when I think of other things he did...
"Oops! I think I broke her arm!" is one of those things.
Garasharp K7
09-09-2008, 04:42 AM
If we're talking absolutely malicious, reprehensible, irredeemable scumbags, then you can't get much worse than the antagonists in Hell Girl.
And that woman who kidnapped the girl's dogs would be the worst of the bunch. I wouldn't consider her or any of the others a favourite though. not even in a 'one you love to hate' sense. They're just so utterly utterly evil.
As far as favourite villains go, I'd have to get back to you later on that one....
something
09-09-2008, 07:56 AM
I can't think of a real answer right now so I'm going to mention Hiratsuka Raichou, the ELECTRIC BUTTERFLY, in my quest to plug Kyouran Kazoku Nikki.
She's insane, and lovely, and electric love, and OH GOD GOTOU YUUKO IS THE BEST VILLIAN SEIYUU EVER.
Spirit Of The Stage
09-09-2008, 10:03 AM
Nakago from Fushigi Yugi. Pretty boy looks but a heart colder than an iceberg, he just radiated pure evil.
Seconded, thirded to infinity. I'll also nominate Kurodane Akabane from Getbackers. He's just...wow...
ArcticMech
09-09-2008, 10:47 AM
Been watching Now and Then, Here and There on Sci-Fi the past few weeks and I can't recall a less redeeming person than the main villian, Hamdo. Merely killing him would be letting him off the hook.
Njr Scrawl
09-09-2008, 11:30 AM
Baddest bad girl (woman) IMO is Galaxia in Sailor Moon Stars.
Collectively/as a family, the Zabis of Mobile Suit Gundam.
Single male, Johan in Monster is worse than Light. But Shishio Makoto in Rurouni Kenshin beats both.
evilarrex
09-09-2008, 03:29 PM
He sold those pets to teach people a lesson, and to punish them for their evil. Count wasn't a bad guy.
My view may be colored having read the balance of the Petshop Manga. But he really doesnt care about humans.
ippo-fan
09-09-2008, 05:33 PM
I'd say it's Orochimaru from Naruto since he looks evil and and is a really skilled bad guy...
YearOftheMonkey
09-09-2008, 05:50 PM
I'll let you make your own definition of "bad guy."
Okay, but how about the definition of "baddest"? "Evil" bad, or "badass" bad?
If it's the former, then I'll say the would-be rapist cop from the second(?) episode of Hell Girl (part of the reason I detest that series).
That was going to be my question.
I'm going to say Yakushiji Tenzen from Basilisk. He was very manipulative and was bad to the core.
Kevinroc
09-10-2008, 04:06 AM
A devious manipulator from a shonen series.
Naraku from Inuyasha.
(Spoiler for a scene that takes place after the end of the Inuyasha TV series.)
The manner in which he killed Kagura earned him a special place in hell. He returned her heart and then injected his poisons into her body, causing her a great deal of physical pain before she finally died. The manner in which he killed her also prevented Sesshomaru from reviving her.
That was the 2nd most emotional scene Takahashi ever wrote (it doesn't top the ending of Maison Ikkoku).
I would also list Griffith from Berserk as one of the greatest big bads. It will be a glorious moment if he ever gets what's coming to him.
Buckeye
09-10-2008, 09:59 AM
Let's see, Orochimaru (Naruto) is someone I would detest with his actions that put the Leaf Village in harms way all the time. Commissioner Saito (Kurau Phanton Memory) is another guy I detest because he is the one behind the chasing of Kurau and Christmas to the ends of the earth and upsetting the Rynax. Also, Aizen (Bleach) since he is the main reason why all this fighting happened in the Soul Society in order to save Rukia.
Busaiku
09-10-2008, 05:06 PM
Johann Liebert of Monster.
Bar none.
An evil, manipulating, horrible person.
I love him so much though.
Rhodes
09-10-2008, 11:26 PM
I'll let you make your own definition of "bad guy."
Ashram from Record of Lodoss War.
I take offense on that... Ashram is not a bad guy. Everything he did was for the sake of his people and country. The man is a true hero in every sense of the word.
He may of been an enemy to Parn but that doesnt make him a bad guy.
Mr. Nail Bat
09-11-2008, 01:30 AM
I'll let you make your own definition of "bad guy."
Ashram from Record of Lodoss War.
I take offense on that... Ashram is not a bad guy. Everything he did was for the sake of his people and country. The man is a true hero in every sense of the word.
He may of been an enemy to Parn but that doesnt make him a bad guy.
Stax said to make my own definition of "bad guy", so I chose the definition of "antagonist", which Ashram definitely is.
GundamWingMan
09-11-2008, 03:35 AM
Originally, I thought about choosing Zagato from Magic Knight Rayearth who had kidnapped and imprisoned Princess Emeraude and was willing to let Cephiro go to hell until Hikaru, Umi and Fuu arrived from Tokyo to battle and eventually defeat him. However, as everyone knows, it turned out he loved Emeraude (and vice versa) and wanted to be with her, something that wasn't allowed since her constant prayers kept Cephiro stable, but he abducted her anyway. Kinda hard to call Zagato a true bad guy since he acted out of love.
Quarkboy
09-11-2008, 07:43 AM
Clearly emperor Baldy Bald from Bobobo-bo-bobobo!
Oh, wait, what? The Ba_d_dest Bad Guy?
Whoops, my bad...
Talyn
09-11-2008, 07:17 PM
So evil I want the f**ker to suffer more than die. I have but one....
Griffin, Berserk
Johann Liebert of Monster.
Bar none.
An evil, manipulating, horrible person.
I love him so much though.
I second that, though I will also add Le Comte de Monte-Cristo from Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo, before he got huged by Albert.
populuxe
09-16-2008, 12:40 PM
I'll let you make your own definition of "bad guy."
Ashram from Record of Lodoss War.
I take offense on that... Ashram is not a bad guy. Everything he did was for the sake of his people and country. The man is a true hero in every sense of the word.
He may of been an enemy to Parn but that doesnt make him a bad guy.
Stax said to make my own definition of "bad guy", so I chose the definition of "antagonist", which Ashram definitely is.
Exactly. The whole idea is to get as many different ideas and definitions of "bad guy" as possible.
Njr Scrawl
09-16-2008, 12:50 PM
IMO the baddest "guys" in the anime multiverse, are bugs. Think about it. Nausicaa, Blue Gender, Gunbuster 1 & 2, The Third, Starship Troopers... And the scary thing is all Earth bugs have to do is evolve to giant individual size or swarm size to be a real threat! Forget Hurricane Ike.....Swarm Sakura!
brycec1701
09-16-2008, 12:51 PM
Having just reviewed Full Metal Panic and Full Metal Panic: Second Raid, I am going to have to toss in Gauron.
sisterray
09-16-2008, 03:50 PM
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As for my picks:
Lagato from Trigun: He made Vash kill him just to break Vash's spirit, one of the most brutal things I think I've seen
Hisoka from Hunter X Hunter: He's just freaky, and bad ass enough to back up his freaky
Griffith From Berserk: See why he did what he did made the whole series.
My first thought was Legato too.
And yes Grifith too. ARCH he is so mean to Guts and Casca.
BigPants
09-17-2008, 03:55 AM
My vote goes to Suitengu from Speed Grapher. So manipulative and he's someone that's going to see it through to the end. And he's got a badass super power too.
Now, if it was most despicable, I'd go with Hajime from Gantz.
Buckeye
09-17-2008, 12:03 PM
One more bad guy I would like to add to my list of baddest baddies is Tenzen of Basilisk. He is one of the characters that I despise the most. He is the one who was behind all of the fighting between the clans as he caused them to fight each other so that he can become the ruler of the Iga clan. The hatred between the Kouga and the Iga was more or less caused by him. And of course, he is the one that gets in the way between Gennosuke and Oboro and their relationship.
Glamrgrl104
09-23-2008, 12:09 PM
I agree Gates and damn can't think of his name whoever played the villian in the first FMP Garin?
JTurner
01-16-2009, 01:30 PM
Gargoyle from Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water. Unbelievably cold and cruel with a blatant disregard for human life.
Sorry to bump up the thread, but yeah, excellent choice. Of course, I almost wonder if Gendo Ikari could qualify too?
Njr Scrawl
01-16-2009, 08:10 PM
There are many worse than him. Although he is ruthless, his motive is not destruction, but reconstruction although his methods & attitude are amoral.
Any of the Zabi family in MSG, & the Titans/Axis in Z & ZZ Gundam are worse.
Kiggy
01-16-2009, 09:50 PM
Right now the only one I can think of is
Eliza Leagan from Candy Candy
God. What. A. BITCH! :angry:
Classical
01-16-2009, 10:17 PM
In terms of "evil" bad guys, I felt that (in Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha) Precia Testarossa was a rather evil villain. I just think that her cruel treatment of Fate despite her loyalty was rather evil. I guess another bad guy I felt was really bad was (from Full Metal Panic! season 1) Gauron. The guy just didn't seem to want to die, and he was pretty "evil" to boot.
Njr Scrawl
01-17-2009, 07:27 AM
Galaxia in Sailor Moon Stars, & Queen Beryl in TOS are vilely evil.
For Magical Girl shows anyway.
Nagako, Soi & the evil twin in Fushigi Yugi are also filth.
Too bad more of Tenjho Tenge wasn't animated or I could say Souhaku, but since it only animated the manga up to right before he's introduced I'll say Bodolza from Macross since he wipes out almost every human on the Planet.
Orihimes_Boyfriend
01-17-2009, 03:50 PM
I agree Gates and damn can't think of his name whoever played the villian in the first FMP Garin?
Mike McRae played Gauron in both the fist season and TSR.
Torriate
01-17-2009, 04:17 PM
Definitely Light Yagami from Death Note. He killed literally 1000s of people without moral qualms.
RedCorvus
01-20-2009, 08:29 AM
I have to agree with Lagato from Trigun
Inflicting mental scars that will never heal, breaking his spirit, breaking his promise to Ren but doing so in the way of Vash having free will... just plain evil
And don't forget about Knives from Trigun homicidal manic even as a child
What about Harry from Gungrave?
Shooting someone that is like your brother in the face over money and power would count as bad/evil.
What about all the people from earth in Vandread? To harvest human colonists for body parts just so they can live a bit longer
Also worth mentioning...
Gendo from Evangelion
Vicious from Cowboy Bebop
Shishio from Rurouni Kenshin
Aion from Chrono Crusade
Tessai from Ninja Scroll
jcrharris
01-20-2009, 11:36 AM
Two words, one man... KEN-OH!
Yes Raoh, from Hokuto No Ken is one baddest bad guys of all time. From his bad-ass look, to his incredible , almost Vaderish presence on Koku-oh, Raoh remains my pick for baddest bad guy in anime... though Satan from Devilman runs a close second.
James
dragonrider_cody
01-20-2009, 01:36 PM
Muraki from Descendants of Darkness. Not only was the guy weird, creepy and evil. He tortured victims to death, then would continue to torture some even after they died. Not to mention he would try to drag you off and butt rape you. Now that's just crossing a line there :P
jigoku panda
01-21-2009, 05:11 PM
I would have to go with baddest females in anime
Balalaika- black lagoon especially what she does for housecleaning in japan when rock goes back home for a bit as a translator for balalaika.
Reika Kitami- BB since she just used various people to get what she wants including using the lead character minase & imari.
Tetsuo (ok hes a male)-Akira since he did alot of destruction once he awakened
Digital Boy
01-22-2009, 10:26 PM
Kamjin/Khyron from Macross/Robotech
This guy will fuck your shit up on Christmas
Prede
01-22-2009, 10:40 PM
At the risk of being a little cliche, I have to say King Hamdo from Now and Then, Here and There. From the very start of that anime, you really get a sense of how insane, how evil, and how horrible of a human being this man truly is. Some of things he does in the series makes him out to be the worst possible person to ever lead a group of people, and a completely cold, heartless, truly evil human being. Yet something feels very real about him, like there are acually people in this world who could be just as bad as him, if they are given the chance. I think history is full of people that prove that.
Also I would say some of the villians from Shadow Star Narutaru are the "worst" bad guys in any anime. They do, and plan some horrible things. They are heartless, cold, evil and sadistic little children. From the Khmer Rouge wanna-be, to the girl who seems to take pleasure from killing a whole group of souldeirs, to their leader, who has planned some incredibly horrible things. To think that a few children are willing to do these things. I'd argue that the worst people in this anime, aren't even the kids with the dragon children. The bullies that rape Hiroko (Hiro) with a test tube, seem to take extreme pleasure from that, and do it for stupid reasons. I can't believe they could be so cruel. Of course not all them are eager to do it...
Sorry that I always resort to those two anime series... :sweat:
Anyway as for my "favorite" bad guys, I have way too many... For example I tend to like all the bad guys in Eureka Seven, like the The Council of the Sages (my profile picture), the Ageha Squad, Dewey Novak , Captain Jurgens, Dominic, and Anemone. Some of the bad guys in Black Lagoon are really cruel, yet somehow cool (bad play on words I know...sue me) like Hänsel and Gretel, or the Maid. Suitengu in Speed Grapher is a cool dude. Gendo (from NGE) is such a pimp, how can you hate the guy! He rocks.
Did I answer this already? I feel like I did...but my name didn't come up in the search...
Rambone6x6
01-23-2009, 12:46 AM
I'd say it's Orochimaru from Naruto since he looks evil and and is a really skilled bad guy...
Yup gonna go with Orochimaru he just won't quit till ya kill' em
PontiacDeath
01-23-2009, 03:08 PM
What about Harry from Gungrave?
Shooting someone that is like your brother in the face over money and power would count as bad/evil.
Deffinitly a top three worst on my list.
But my number one will always be Darcia from Wolf's Rain. when he killed Toboe, Quient, the human couple, Blue, and everyone else, any lingering thoughts of how cool I thought he was quickly switched to thoughts of me wanting some one to kill the guy.
My number two is Harry, for the reason RedCorvus already said.
My number three is Lelouch of Code Geass, love the guy but he is so not the hero of the story (if there is one).
GundamWingMan
01-24-2009, 06:13 AM
I would have to go with baddest females in anime
Balalaika- black lagoon especially what she does for housecleaning in japan when rock goes back home for a bit as a translator for balalaika.
Reika Kitami- BB since she just used various people to get what she wants including using the lead character minase & miname.
Tetsuo (ok hes a male)-Akira since he did alot of destruction once he awakened
Good choices, but the number one bad girl is Sae Kashiwagi from Peach Girl. Never have I seen a more evil, scheming and all around reprehensible bitch in anime than her!
StanS
01-25-2009, 02:28 PM
The person I love to hate the most, and one I never heard anyone complain about their demise was Gendo Ikari from Evangelion. He is my number one vote.
PontiacDeath
01-30-2009, 03:13 PM
The person I love to hate the most, and one I never heard anyone complain about their demise was Gendo Ikari from Evangelion. He is my number one vote.
Good one, wish I thought of him. Another one I really hate is the Shogun from Basalisk.
Glamrgrl104
01-30-2009, 08:19 PM
Gates- FMP TSR- he's just not right in the head lol
Ladd Russo- Baccano!- He is the best psychopathic killer in anime-(reason I will continue to watch this series XD
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