Adult Swim's new Saturday Schedule... Ugh...

[ChibiGoku]

Let me just quote the post over at Toon Zone:

Really bad news ahead.

New Saturday schedule

11:00 - Bleach

11:30 - FMA

12:00 - Robot Chicken

12:15 - ATHF

12:30 - Metalocalypse

01:00 - Tim and Eric

01:15 - Assy McGee

01:30 - Squidbillies

01:45 - 12 oz. Mouse

Code Geass and Moribito, you ask? Stuck in the 5 AM death slots. That's gotta be a new low for [as].

Reason I thought I'd bring this up, is because of the removal of Shin Chan and two other shows being shoved into Death Slots (Code Geass and Moribito).

My overall opinion? Ugh... Really seems like AS is following suit with Cartoon Network and trying to remove anime from it's schedule. The putting of the two in death slots really bothers me. While I am glad Bleach is getting moved into a better slot and Full Metal Alchemist is returning, everything else bothers me to know in.

Really, if ratings were a concern with Saturdays, maybe it would help for them to actually advertise their stuff rather than just throwing the show on television and expecting it to get ratings. It doesn't help that they're randomly changing the schedule and not giving anyone any warning about it till literally the day or so before it goes on air.

What is puzzling me at the moment though is why Shin Chan is getting removed.

This might be better suited for somewhere else, but the general topic is that Adult Swim lately has not shown good tactics with their anime series they've aquired. At this point, I can understand why companies are going with different networks with their works.

Though, right now I have to wonder how Bandai and Media Blasters are going to feel regarding Code Geass and Moribito's new timeslots...

[WTK]

I can't say I'm that surprised. It's too bad. Nevertheless I will watch Bleach, Code Geass, and Moribito in one way or another. And here is the schedule (http://www.adultswim.com/schedule/index.html) for those who are curious.

[something]

So, like, is nobody watching it? I can't think of any other reason why they'd just shit a show out into quite possible the worst timeslot imaginable. And if they aren't, why not? It's Geass damnit =P

Bandai was probably right to get moving to Sci-fi. I can't imagine John S is too happy about what's happening to Moribito too, though maybe that was agreed upon already...

[lorddream]

Honestly, I'm happy with it. Bleach gets a better time slot, and I was watching Geass off AdultSwim.com most weeks anyway.

It is a bit disappointing that first-run shows are going in the "death" slots, but I think it has been clear for awhile now that anime doesn't have much sway with the programming directors at Adult Swim/Cartoon Network.

[TheGreenMan]

Good thing I have a DVR.

[LordGeo]

Bandai was probably right to get moving to Sci-fi. I can't imagine John S is too happy about what's happening to Moribito too, though maybe that was agreed upon already...

Moribito being on [as] was all Geneon's idea, as they made the deal and MB just ended getting a show on TV by licensing it.

I'm sure John would have prefered for it to be given a better slot, but it's not like he can anything about the TV airing...

[The Great Bear]

Well, it makes it easier for me to ignore Adult Swim now. I've been watching Code Geass through their website anyway. Now I can cheerfully ignore [as].

[WTK]

Well, it makes it easier for me to ignore Adult Swim now. I've been watching Code Geass through their website anyway. Now I can cheerfully ignore [as].
That is a good suggestion. I may want to do that now...

[Asrialys]

Yay for DVR.

[Victor Lewandowski]

Though, right now I have to wonder how Bandai and Media Blasters are going to feel regarding Code Geass and Moribito's new timeslots...

And with Geass only six episodes to go until season 2 begins. This is a bad move just before the slaughtering begins and things start really getting interesting. I think Geass had it's first TV-MA episode last week.

[Classical]

Well, it makes it easier for me to ignore Adult Swim now. I've been watching Code Geass through their website anyway. Now I can cheerfully ignore [as].
That is a good suggestion. I may want to do that now...

I may do that as well for Geass. As far as Moribito is concerned I'll just have to DVR it.

[Talyn]

AS should really be spelled.... A-S-S...cause that's the end of the spectrum of how you treat anime on television... :sd:

[MeggieMay]

The ratings for Saturday have been dreadful in general and not just for the Anime. Here is last weeks numbers:

Highest Rated Adult Swim
Programs Saturday 8/30/08
[Viewers 18-34]

Metalocalypse 240,000

Bleach 224,000

Venture Bros. 223,000

Thanks for watching.


Numbers Game
Part II

Previous winner:
Family Guy - 925,000

Highest Rated Adult Swim
Programs Sunday 8/31/08
[Viewers 18-34]

Family Guy [11pm] 950,000

American Dad 732,000

Robot Chicken 720,000

Thanks for watching

These are the numbers from one year ago:

Numbers Game
Part I

Previous winner:
Futurama - 897,000

Highest Rated Adult Swim
Programs Saturday 9/1/07
[Viewers 18-34]

Futurama 738,000

Blood + 399,000

Bleach 378,000

Thanks for watching.



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Numbers Game
Part II

Previous winner:
Family Guy - 1,137,000

Highest Rated Adult Swim
Programs Sunday 9/2/07
[Viewers 18-34]

Family Guy 1,257,000

Robot Chicken 944,000

Futurama [10:30pm] 886,000

Thanks for watching.


The drop here is not good at all. While numbers do vary year to year the difference shouldn't be that big. That said, the issue really is the loss of Futurama and AS not being able, or possibly willing, to air Family Guy or American Dad on Saturday to help the ratings out [From the looks of things the issue is probably that AS can't air these two shows on Saturdays with the reason most likely being Fox and its affiliates not allowing these shows to compete against the new episodes that air on Sundays.]

Also, it is notable that the Sunday numbers are in a slump as well. My opinion is that the real problem here is Adult Swim itself and not the current shows airing, be they Anime or Comedy. AS has seemingly jumped the shark (at least for the time being) and they need to do some major changes. At this point they seem to think Comedy will fix the Saturday issues but it will be worth following the numbers to see if that really pans out for them or not.

[mighty_vespa]

Really, if ratings were a concern with Saturdays, maybe it would help for them to actually advertise their stuff rather than just throwing the show on television and expecting it to get ratings. It doesn't help that they're randomly changing the schedule and not giving anyone any warning about it till literally the day or so before it goes on air.If [ass] had promoted their anime programming during their gazillion airings of Futurama, American Dad, Family Guy and Aqua Teen, I think that would've helped. How could it have hurt?

And you are DEAD ON with pointing out all of [ass]' willy-nilly schedule changes. This is a problem I've had with them for years. They seem incapable of sticking to a timeslot/programming block and allowing it to grow. That's the ONLY way to build an audience. An audience that will return to watch your shows when they have confidence that THEY'LL BE AIRED IN THE TIMESLOTS THEY BEGAN IN. Yes. That means shows returning from haitus should be aired in the original timeslot they began in.

It seem [ass] has more important things on their minds like selling merchandising rights to all their Williams Street originals. In their humble beginnings, I was happy to see how eager they were to air anime with as little editing and commercial interruption that they could. They'll alwats get kudos for that.

Yet, those days are long, LONG gone, but it doesn't bother me all that much anymore. I've gone practically DVD-exclusive anyway, for all my anime viewing. It still amuses me that [ass] continues to dick around with their programming and cry foul when their ratings don't rise.

[braves]

Meh, I record the shows on my DVD, so it doesn't really mater to me. But this does trouble me in the sense that I don't really think that anime has much of a future on [as]....

I think Geass had it's first TV-MA episode last week.

Yeah, it did. I really wonder why they gave it that. It couldn't have been for the nudity. Total Drama Island has full frontal nudity blurred for males and females, and it's rated TV PG and airs at a much earlier time slot....

[neosupersonic]

I mean most people will probably watch the good shows on AS.com on fridays but it is stupid to move two hot new shows to death slots and putting FMA and Bleach on early. I'm glad FMA is getting a timeslot back but when two new shows suffer from it is it really worth it? Oh yea and no death note?? wtf?

[neosupersonic]

To addon to my previous post, I think that alot of people watch AS on TV for the comedy and not for the anime which is why its on so late anyway. People still watch anime but in different ways via AS.com or fansubs or DVDs. Most people who love the shows will buy the DVDs I know thats how I am. The most logical thing to do is create an anime network which of course has already been done by several companies. However it needs to be as available as CN is, and not in select cities.

[Buster Blader 126]

Damn, that's awful. And Code Geass really begins to step it up at that point, too. To those who were following the affected shows on TV, you have my condolences.

Personally, I think that if they must stick comedy into the schedule, they should at least air only the ones that are more well-received. Robot Chicken, Venture Bros., The Boondocks, or ATHF? Fine. It appears that some of those titles are on the revised schedule, but I often hear negative opinions about shows such as Squidbillies and 12-Ounce Mouse. I guess they really do pull in the ratings. =\

Another interesting thing to note is that they're actually airing the comedy after the anime. I always wondered if they would ever do that: air the anime premieres first, followed by some of the quality comedy cartoons. I'm curious as to whether or not any of the regular comedy watchers will actually wait until they come on. Maybe they would then think "meh, I might as well watch some of this anime stuff while I wait for ___________". In any case, I guess we'll have to see how this turns out.

But hey, look at the bright side: at least you have Adult Swim Fix (for Geass, at least) and that you have something that is worth recording on your VCR/DVR (provided that you own one), unlike us guys up north. What new anime titles did Canadians get this year? Blue Dragon and Dinosaur King! YAAAAY!! :sdsmiley:




T_T

[mitamaking]

I hope I really hope the new shows on Saturday flop, because [ass] cannot advertise till next week the changes, and comedy fans know to avoid Saturdays. So hope it is just a joke or last a few weeks, I don't know what I am going to do about Moribito, I don't really care for Geass so I could take it or leave it but Moribito is good, and isn't on the fix.

[djanss]

Also, it is notable that the Sunday numbers are in a slump as well. My opinion is that the real problem here is Adult Swim itself and not the current shows airing, be they Anime or Comedy. AS has seemingly jumped the shark (at least for the time being) and they need to do some major changes. At this point they seem to think Comedy will fix the Saturday issues but it will be worth following the numbers to see if that really pans out for them or not.

So, AS makes snotty message-card comments (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1401462#post1401462) about not being enthusiastic to show Moribito the week before it airs, and three weeks later, it ends up in the Death Slot...
Gosh, the coincidences. What-are-the-freakin'-odds. :rolleyes: :(

It's becoming more of a smoking gun that AS would like to ethnically-cleanse all anime from their network, if only the fans and industry would let them.
And I'd be inclined to let AS make their own Family Guy bed and lie in it, if only anime had somewhere else on cable to run to.

[Kouji Tamino]

Hmm, I think I'm done with both Cartoon Network and Adult Swim. There's nothing much left to keep me hanging around, which is a shame as it/they used to be my favorite channel(s). Man, it had such a presence back in the day...

[ArcticMech]

Despite their handling of anime broadcasts, it's still better that we have AS than not. Everything will just go on the DVR - so bye bye commercials.

[Velmeran]

Can't say I'm surprised by the move, given how AS has treated most anime titles in the last year or 2. Considering how AS was built upon a foundation of anime it's rather sad to see how it's treated currently.

I know many people, who are like myself and look at the current line-up on AS and just cringe. We personnally can't see what's funny with most of thier content, maybe we've just moved from their target demographic *shrugs* They used to have a schedule filled with so many quality shows (and then they'd sneak in 1-2 crappy shows) now it seems like it's reversed... and yet they can't figure out why ratings are down across the board?

Instead of pushing anime away, maybe they should try and return to their roots?

[jigoku panda]

Apparently the havent updated their schedule for dishnetwork yet since it still has last week's as tommorow's so may have to do a quick dvr recording once the schedule gets straightend out for satellite watchers -.-;

[Buckeye]

While it does not really bother me since I always use my TiVo, it does make me think that Adult Swim does not think highly of anime these days.

[Prede]

Hmm, I think I'm done with both Cartoon Network and Adult Swim. There's nothing much left to keep me hanging around, which is a shame as it/they used to be my favorite channel(s). Man, it had such a presence back in the day...

Yeah same here. At one time they were my favorite channel. Now I hate them. Although with the horrible raitings anime in general is getting on thier channel, it makes sense why they are doing this. I still do not approve. It be great to have more anime on TV...

I still wonder why shows that have been played to death get great time slots, but the two new shows get the so called "Death Hour". Look FMA has ran multiple times. Put Code Geass and Moribito on at better times. I guess sense Bleach is new episodes it's ok. I fear the time where there is no anime on Adult Swim, and every day that time draws closer.

I'll watch my anime on TV from: VOD channels, Sci-Fi , IFC, Encore and wherever else. Adult Swim is not useful anymore. DVD's will forever by the best way for me to watch anime...

[GeorgeC]

I pretty much feel the way you all do about Adult Swim these days.

I'm an older fan from way back when and am about in the same age bracket as Chris Beveridge.

It's bad that CN is not serving the older animation fanbase but they consider their bread-and-butter to be children under age 10. If they are skewing shows to slightly older than that and getting a bunch of young teens to watch DBZ, Bleach, and Naruto, great!

(Frankly, I don't consider many of the action shows fantastic and a lot of those fans tend to be faddish and move on to the next big thing quickly. The fanbase for those show just isn't that stable, IMHO.)

BUT, otherwise if you're in that 18+ group, you're SOL. AS is programmed for and by the ADD-crowd in control at CN nowadays. Programming at CN now is as bad and erratic as MTV.

Most of us don't like the live-action shows on AS right now... The network is called "Cartoon" Network for cryin' out loud!
A lot of us hate (with very few exceptions) most of the "original" (non-licensed) AS shows like Aqua Teen Hunger Force and recycled Hanna-Barbera based shows... Granted, I admit to liking Venture Bros. and Harvey Birdman myself, but those are 2 out of 20-something "new" shows AS has commissioned over the years.

The impact AS has on anime is nonetheless considerable when a show does well. Anime airing on AS still exposes a lot more people to a show than you'd otherwise get aside from Internet downloading, YouTube, and other online alternatives. There are just not that many people that will buy anime sight-unseen at a store or online without some exposure on television.

Practically everything that IS popular or a certifiable video sales hit in the US that is anime was shown on television. There's no practical way to separate that reality from sales figures.

I'd love more network alternatives and economical alternatives to Sci-Fi and CN myself, but just about every one of us has said the same thing over and over again online and in letters and we still haven't gotten that perfect animation or anime channel yet.

[Steve_the_Talking_Pie]

I am not surprised that the numbers on Saturday aren't doing well. Most adults who would watch said programs are out doing social activities instead of staying in to watch TV. Even if I stay in, I would rather have a few friends over for drinks or get a movie instead of watching TV.

[CGord]

Hopefully Moribito will air to completion, as I am using [as] for my first viewing of this series & am enjoying it so far. But like a lot of folks, I'm recording it via DVR & am not concerned about the timeslot.

The recent original [as] content absolutely sucks outside of Metalocalypse & Venture Brothers. They deserve a slow ratings death for crap like Tim & Eric.

Now if only SciFi could bring themselves to keep the original 2-act anime format. :(

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Well they have to branch out and get more variety in there anime. The biggest problem is one person (Kim Manning) is the one making all the picks as to what shows we get on AS. She recently said she wanted Elfin Lied but the guys in standards shot her down cause of the amount of editing that would have to be done.

I personally would love to see more comedic shows like Shin Chan on. I believe all they think we like are shows with Swords and guns.

[GeorgeC]

I liked Shin-Chan, too.

I know it's blasphemy to say it here, but there are many anime series that are BETTER when the dubs aren't so literal! I think comedies from 15 years on and older probably benefit from "more flexible" dubs. Shin-Chan falls squarely into that group, too.

Granted, if Shin-Chan were subtitled, we'd all expect more literalism. I, for one, am not so sure a "literal" Shin-Chan would do so well, though. The dub is fun to sit through, though!

Loved Lupin the 3rd, too, but that series has NEVER been popular in the US regardless of who's distributed it.

Yeah, it is too bad that AS and CN seem to be stuck on the Shonen Jump/Viz shows. There's nothing in that crowd that attracts me. If anything, the razor-thin plots and generally two-dimensional characters put me off.

I was hoping Sci-Fi might pick up the slack where AS and CN are failing a lot of us now but it seems most of the Sci-Fi licensed shows are Manga Entertainment licenses that I'm just not that interested in or already own.

You'd think something they'd be airing more sci-fi anime on Sci-Fi Channel but we've gotta remember it wasn't that long ago that WWE and Crossing Over With John Edwards were showing in the late evening on Sci-Fi Channel! Gundam, Nadesico, and Shingu ought to be natural fits for Sci-Fi but they're just not happening on Sci-Fi.

[Rolancehack]

You people are honestly surprised that AS has been giving anime the shaft? They've been doing it for years now.

[JackProton]

My VCR just died and I had to look up the schedule for the backup recorder. Lucky I did.

Code Geass gets replaced by a gun-toting talking ass? What, did they misread the title as "Oh Gee Ass" when they bought the rights? And poor Moribito... sheesh. These are the same guys that broadcast GitS?

Honestly, this is the problem with channels making their own programming -- they have absolutely no idea just how bad it really is and don't really care ('cus it was cheap - see also SciFi channel).

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Yeah the people that run things over there are completely full of shit. I have no clue what the hell they want as far as ratings on a Saturday. It's never going to be in the millions and they whine about a show getting 300,000 viewers. Hey people have this crazy thing called a life.

[LelouchLamperouge]

I just did my scheduled my DVR and I can't say I'm shocked or surprised by these time changes. I don't know what's worse - putting shows in the death slot(s) and repeatedly hating on them([adult swim]) ... or ... commercials every 5-6 minutes(lookin' at you, Sci-Fi).

[zaldar]

To addon to my previous post, I think that alot of people watch AS on TV for the comedy and not for the anime which is why its on so late anyway. People still watch anime but in different ways via AS.com or fansubs or DVDs. Most people who love the shows will buy the DVDs I know thats how I am. The most logical thing to do is create an anime network which of course has already been done by several companies. However it needs to be as available as CN is, and not in select cities.

An example of how fansubbs are killing anime in the US.

[zaldar]

Well they have to branch out and get more variety in there anime. The biggest problem is one person (Kim Manning) is the one making all the picks as to what shows we get on AS. She recently said she wanted Elfin Lied but the guys in standards shot her down cause of the amount of editing that would have to be done.

I personally would love to see more comedic shows like Shin Chan on. I believe all they think we like are shows with Swords and guns.

This is what will bring in the most people yes. Shin Chan was just not funny and was incredibly stupid, it was to much LIKE the comedy that they do on adult swim all ready (which is all also dumb and stupid). They should branch out yes but they won't. The channel is crap and has been for a long time now. I guess I am going to have to get a ridiculously large computer monitor screen and the furniture to support it so I can see good anime online (sigh).

Renting it on DVD and buying what I consider to be classic seems to be the only way to go. American TV is just such crap it is incredible.

[LordGeo]

To addon to my previous post, I think that alot of people watch AS on TV for the comedy and not for the anime which is why its on so late anyway. People still watch anime but in different ways via AS.com or fansubs or DVDs. Most people who love the shows will buy the DVDs I know thats how I am. The most logical thing to do is create an anime network which of course has already been done by several companies. However it needs to be as available as CN is, and not in select cities.

An example of how fansubbs are killing anime in the US.

Please stop and direct your complaints and hatred of fansubs towards the actual topic that talks about them.

This topic has nothing to do with fansubs so it's useless to bring it up here.

[zaldar]

To addon to my previous post, I think that alot of people watch AS on TV for the comedy and not for the anime which is why its on so late anyway. People still watch anime but in different ways via AS.com or fansubs or DVDs. Most people who love the shows will buy the DVDs I know thats how I am. The most logical thing to do is create an anime network which of course has already been done by several companies. However it needs to be as available as CN is, and not in select cities.

An example of how fansubbs are killing anime in the US.

Please stop and direct your complaints and hatred of fansubs towards the actual topic that talks about them.

This topic has nothing to do with fansubs so it's useless to bring it up here.

If you read the post I quoted then you can see how they were brought up and the schedule changes as AS HAS SAID are because of people pirating their stuff. One of the unfortunate effects of the internet will be the death of the entertainment industry I am afraid.

[einhorn303]

What I'd love to see more than anything else in the world:

Someone taking one of the most retarded, "middle-aged-fat-male-crotch-in-face" style, with vomitting and horrible singing, clips from Tim And Eric Awesome Show! Great Job, and uploading it to nicovideo with a flashing red caption of: "ON AMERICAN TV, CODE GEASS'S TIME SLOT WAS MOVED TO 3 AM SO IT COULD BE REPLACED WITH THIS SHOW," in Japanese ww

Something like this (actual clip from the show): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5_2uZ6v_Nw

Edit: Or possibly this for something longer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMLHx_MVLvU

[Fencedude]

Well they have to branch out and get more variety in there anime. The biggest problem is one person (Kim Manning) is the one making all the picks as to what shows we get on AS. She recently said she wanted Elfin Lied but the guys in standards shot her down cause of the amount of editing that would have to be done.

I personally would love to see more comedic shows like Shin Chan on. I believe all they think we like are shows with Swords and guns.

Of course, Elfen Lied would have gone TERRIFICALLY on Adult Swim, it panders perfectly to their target audience. Hell, blur out the tits, slap TV-MA on it and air it at 1 am. Gantz too. The kiddies (and lets not kid ourselves about this, so to speak) will lap it up.

[nekonene]

Good news everybody!
Some time ago, the vast majority of anime watchers bitched and moaned about [as] changing their schedule to some half-ass steaming pile of crap. Well, it looks like the pleas of the great unwashed :sweat: haven't gone unanswered.



11:00pm Robot Chicken
11:15pm Robot Chicken
11:30pm Aqua Teen
11:45pm Aqua Teen
12:00am Boondocks
12:30am Boondocks
1:00am Bleach
1:30am Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit
2:00am Code Geass
2:30am Shin Chan
3:00am FLCL
3:30am Death Note
4:00am Ghost in the Shell
4:30am Cowboy Bebop
5:00am Big O
5:30am InuYasha


Now.. go forth and watch! :catgirl:

[Talyn]

That's an improvement....

[WTK]

It's too bad that Moribito is back to repeats... :relief:

[The Great Bear]

That's an improvement....

An improvement, but I don't think it's enough to want to make me watch it (I'm not a Nielsen household, so it makes no difference to the ratings).

I think I'll just keep up with Geass on the AS site.

[dragoon]

It's definitely a big improvement, but how long will it last? If ratings disappoint again, I wouldn't be surprised if they messed around with the schedule again. If only they could shift this schedule an hour or two earlier, then that would be perfect.

It's too bad that Moribito is back to repeats... :relief:

I share the disappointment, I want to see more -- NOW! :)

On the upside, at least this gives a second opportunity for people to get acquainted with this wonderful series... now that it's sandwiched between Bleach and CG.

If it doesn't succeed now, then nothing can save Moribito. :cry: Stellar show, as far as I'm concerned.

[JackProton]

Good news!


It's too bad that Moribito is back to repeats... :relief:
Already? :(


If it doesn't succeed now, then nothing can save Moribito. :cry: Stellar show, as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, I'm really enjoying this one too!

[Kouji Tamino]

Ah, that's cool. I HATE watching anything longer than 5 minutes or so on the internet, so it looks like I'll be losing sleep on Saturdays again. :P

[xia]

Good news everybody!
Some time ago, the vast majority of anime watchers bitched and moaned about [as] changing their schedule to some half-ass steaming pile of crap. Well, it looks like the pleas of the great unwashed :sweat: haven't gone unanswered.




1:00am Bleach
1:30am Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit
2:00am Code Geass
2:30am Shin Chan
3:00am FLCL
3:30am Death Note
4:00am Ghost in the Shell
4:30am Cowboy Bebop
5:00am Big O
5:30am InuYasha


Now.. go forth and watch! :catgirl:


Yay for CBB again
I Know alot of people are going to be happy about FLCL's return.

[EyeOfPain]

It's gonna be so nice not having to stay up until 6 in the morning anymore.

[Buckeye]

It really does not matter for me either way since I have a TiVo, but for everyone who does not this is a good thing that people do not have to stay up that long to wait.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

I only wish they would have the anime in the 11 - 1 half but oh well. Great to see Death Note back for a second chance. Thank God Geass is at a reasonable time now. Bleach being on at 1 doesn't make that much sense to me seeing as it seems like it being a Shounen Jump fits perfectly right after Naruto. Then again just the fact that they are playing anime in a good amount on Saturdays again works for me. The one show I'd love to see get a replay is Blood +.

[dragoon]

It really does not matter for me either way since I have a TiVo, but for everyone who does not this is a good thing that people do not have to stay up that long to wait.

DVR has definitely changed the way I watch TV too. I can not imagine being without it... Not only for recordings, but rewind, ff (through commercials), and other goodies!

[Classical]

Good news everybody!
Some time ago, the vast majority of anime watchers bitched and moaned about [as] changing their schedule to some half-ass steaming pile of crap. Well, it looks like the pleas of the great unwashed :sweat: haven't gone unanswered.



1:00am Bleach
1:30am Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit
2:00am Code Geass
2:30am Shin Chan
3:00am FLCL
3:30am Death Note
4:00am Ghost in the Shell
4:30am Cowboy Bebop
5:00am Big O
5:30am InuYasha



I'm definitely liking the new schedule over the old one. Personally, I don't mind that Moribito is on re-run right now. I've missed a few episodes because, for some strange reason, my DVR didn't record them. Hooray for Code Geass too.

[Dicrel Seijin]

Wow, that certainly is surprising. That's actually a decent schedule. Did they clean house in [AS] or something?

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

No sadly. :laugh:

Same morons running the ship over there. They do something smart every now and then tho' this being one of them.

[JackProton]

No sadly. :laugh:

Same morons running the ship over there. They do something smart every now and then tho' this being one of them.

I thought maybe they just ran out of viewers drunk enough to watch a talking ass with a gun more than once.

[Oniko]

That's an improvement....

An improvement, but I don't think it's enough to want to make me watch it (I'm not a Nielsen household, so it makes no difference to the ratings).

I think I'll just keep up with Geass on the AS site.

Heh, funny you should mention Nielsen... we just did that this past week and they are absolutely getting a comment from me about the terrible time CN had/ has for anime airings. (Well, and my Hubby put in a comment about taking 6teen off the air.)

The new lineup is still unwatchable for me, but at least they took off some of the truly horrendous Adult Swim original "animation". I'm most certainly not staying up that late to watch the shows. I'm to old for that.:sweat:

[billyarnie]

No sadly. :laugh:

Same morons running the ship over there. They do something smart every now and then tho' this being one of them.
Don't give them that much credit... it was Bandai that told them to take Code Geass R2 out of the graveyard... Or Else! Also, the BK Have It Your Way schedule winner in Sept. used an alternating Comedy/Anime schedule that probably did better than the "Craptacular Encore Saturday" schedule that righteously got trashed. Domo Arigato for the bitch-slap, Bandai-sama! :beatingheart:

Moribito was going to be rebooted anyway; this schedule change makes the reboot worth it! The schedule could be better, but I'll take Robot Chicken, Aqua Teen Hunger Force & The Boondocks for 2 hours if Moribito & CG R2 are rescued from teh graveyard... I don't have to watch the comedy, however... ;)

[JINROH]

Instead of pushing anime away, maybe they should try and return to their roots?


No way !!! That would make too much sense ! :angry:

[Glamrgrl104]

This is one time when I am glad I don't have cable.
Yes they have good shows on Saturday but only Saturday night. The rest of the week is crap.
Although I admit robot chicken is disturbingly funny at times.
Why do you have to be up at 3am to watch any good shows?
I prefer buying them and watching them. There are no commercials and you get to watch them back to back if you wish!
I remember when they had good shows like Trinity Blood(first time I saw it was on Toonami), Bleach(this one too), and case closed(and this one). I used to like CN but now meh. Nick is good because once in awhile they have Avatar.

[Sonic2nd]

I currently have my vcr set up to tape the remaining 4 flcl episodes. I would like to get into a longer anime series but I'm getting really sick of putting up with Cartoon Network's inconsistent schedule.

(Is it just me or does it seem like CN changes their entire schedule every two weeks?)

[Memphis]

This is one time when I am glad I don't have cable.
Yes they have good shows on Saturday but only Saturday night. The rest of the week is crap.
Although I admit robot chicken is disturbingly funny at times.
Why do you have to be up at 3am to watch any good shows?
I do agree that Saturday only is crap. But no point in complaining about it since adult swim won't do anything about it. I'm just glad that I've been able to catch Moribito for a change.

For all I care they can kill CN/AS off. Just give their anime to another channel.

[Kouji Tamino]

This is one time when I am glad I don't have cable.
Yes they have good shows on Saturday but only Saturday night. The rest of the week is crap.
Although I admit robot chicken is disturbingly funny at times.
Why do you have to be up at 3am to watch any good shows?
I do agree that Saturday only is crap. But no point in complaining about it since adult swim won't do anything about it. I'm just glad that I've been able to catch Moribito for a change.

For all I care they can kill CN/AS off. Just give their anime to another channel.

Who, Sci-Fi? No thanks. The only thing they have on AS is the time they air their shows. Their presentation sucks, cutting out scenes to make time for more commercials which pop up at the most inappropriate times and happen way too often. That was one of the reasons I decided to buy Gurren Lagann so soon after watching it. I can't wait to see how they splice up Gundam 00.

[Daimao Raki]

I currently have my vcr set up to tape the remaining 4 flcl episodes. I would like to get into a longer anime series but I'm getting really sick of putting up with Cartoon Network's inconsistent schedule.

(Is it just me or does it seem like CN changes their entire schedule every two weeks?)Give your money and support directly to R1/R2 companies: Buy DVDs and Blu-Ray if that's your thing. I stopped watching AS years ago because I refuse to be at the mercy of anybody's schedule except my own.

[Memphis]

This is one time when I am glad I don't have cable.
Yes they have good shows on Saturday but only Saturday night. The rest of the week is crap.
Although I admit robot chicken is disturbingly funny at times.
Why do you have to be up at 3am to watch any good shows?
I do agree that Saturday only is crap. But no point in complaining about it since adult swim won't do anything about it. I'm just glad that I've been able to catch Moribito for a change.

For all I care they can kill CN/AS off. Just give their anime to another channel.

Who, Sci-Fi? No thanks. The only thing they have on AS is the time they air their shows. Their presentation sucks, cutting out scenes to make time for more commercials which pop up at the most inappropriate times and happen way too often. That was one of the reasons I decided to buy Gurren Lagann so soon after watching it. I can't wait to see how they splice up Gundam 00.
I was thinking more like IFC or Starz. (I don't watch Sci-Fi) Although, Starz has been a little unpredictable lately.

[Kouji Tamino]

This is one time when I am glad I don't have cable.
Yes they have good shows on Saturday but only Saturday night. The rest of the week is crap.
Although I admit robot chicken is disturbingly funny at times.
Why do you have to be up at 3am to watch any good shows?
I do agree that Saturday only is crap. But no point in complaining about it since adult swim won't do anything about it. I'm just glad that I've been able to catch Moribito for a change.

For all I care they can kill CN/AS off. Just give their anime to another channel.

Who, Sci-Fi? No thanks. The only thing they have on AS is the time they air their shows. Their presentation sucks, cutting out scenes to make time for more commercials which pop up at the most inappropriate times and happen way too often. That was one of the reasons I decided to buy Gurren Lagann so soon after watching it. I can't wait to see how they splice up Gundam 00.
I was thinking more like IFC or Starz. (I don't watch Sci-Fi) Although, Starz has been a little unpredictable lately.

More people have CN/AS than premium channels like Starz or IFC (I do have IFC, however.)

[JackProton]

I do agree that Saturday only is crap. But no point in complaining about it since adult swim won't do anything about it. I'm just glad that I've been able to catch Moribito for a change.


The funniest thing of all this was seeing the huge caption emblazoned on the first Moribito DVD set box that reads, "As seen on Adult Swim". Who says the [AS] guys aren't funny now!

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

It also says that on the Blood + singles. But thankfully its just a sticker on the shrink wrap.

[EyeOfPain]

I remember when they had good shows like Trinity Blood(first time I saw it was on Toonami), Bleach(this one too), and case closed(and this one).

Trinity Blood, Bleach and Case Closed never aired on Toonami. Bleach is still premiering ever Saturday, by the way.

Most cable/satellite companies don't seem to consider IFC a premium channel. For example, it's included in DirecTV's basic package.

While I do purchase DVDs, I still enjoy watching [as]'s anime, even at ungodly hours. There's something about watching a premier on television.

[TornadoTatsumaki]

I remember when they had good shows like Trinity Blood(first time I saw it was on Toonami), Bleach(this one too), and case closed(and this one).

Trinity Blood, Bleach and Case Closed never aired on Toonami. Bleach is still premiering ever Saturday, by the way.

Most cable/satellite companies don't seem to consider IFC a premium channel. For example, it's included in DirecTV's basic package.

While I do purchase DVDs, I still enjoy watching [as]'s anime, even at ungodly hours. There's something about watching a premier on television.

Cased Closed ran on Adult Swim weeknights Monday-Thursday from July 19,2004 to November 18,2004. For some reason, CN was unable to get the rights to air the later episodes and as a result after airing the first 52 episodes, Cased Closed was replaced by Super Milk Chan( or was it Big O?)

As for Starz well they had a deal with Funimation and Gonzo last fall, now they don't seem to know what to do with thier animemidnight schedule. It's like what happened with G4 3 years ago. I hope Animemidnight doesn't end up sharing the same fate as "Anime Unleashed" I still can't forgive G4 for that.

[MeggieMay]

Actually, Adult Swim passed on buying any more Case Closed. The powers that be at AS really disliked the show and were only airing it because they had they the rights to air it. Before anyone asks, I can't remember who bought the show for Cartoon Network but it was aquired for CN, not AS, originally. Because it wasn't bought by Kim Manning or Mike Lazzlo, who were the main programmers for the block at the time, they refused to support the show and were simply running it late night until their contract came (they actually both flat out hated the show and if you dig around the Adult Swim Message Board you may still find old threads where one or both would pop up and go on dissing rants over it).

The only reason that plan stopped early is that Funimation started their liner channel on cable/satellite and asked for, and received back, the rights to Case Closed so they could air it there. So Adult Swim was never going to air any more Case Closed after the first 52, which BTW they never actually aired all 52 episodes. Two episodes were pulled and never aired as part of the package AS had the rights to show (I know one was Ep 52 and the other, IIRC, was a episode was about a diving mystery (they jumped over that episode))

[TornadoTatsumaki]

Actually, Adult Swim passed on buying any more Case Closed. The powers that be at AS really disliked the show and were only airing it because they had they the rights to air it. Before anyone asks, I can't remember who bought the show for Cartoon Network but it was aquired for CN, not AS, originally. Because it wasn't bought by Kim Manning or Mike Lazzlo, who were the main programmers for the block at the time, they refused to support the show and were simply running it late night until their contract came (they actually both flat out hated the show and if you dig around the Adult Swim Message Board you may still find old threads where one or both would pop up and go on dissing rants over it).

The only reason that plan stopped early is that Funimation started their liner channel on cable/satellite and asked for, and received back, the rights to Case Closed so they could air it there. So Adult Swim was never going to air any more Case Closed after the first 52, which BTW they never actually aired all 52 episodes. Two episodes were pulled and never aired as part of the package AS had the rights to show (I know one was Ep 52 and the other, IIRC, was a episode was about a diving mystery (they jumped over that episode))

That's interesting. I had no idea the Williams Street execs despised the show so much noir did I have any idea that two episodes were pulled( no wonder why it aired late at night during the summer of '04) Seems like The Funimation Channel is what helped take the show off thier hands. No wonder why it never aired again.(Glad I recorded it on tape.) I hope I'm not getting too much on topic.

[Sekiraku Bunchou]

Actually, Adult Swim passed on buying any more Case Closed. The powers that be at AS really disliked the show and were only airing it because they had they the rights to air it. Before anyone asks, I can't remember who bought the show for Cartoon Network but it was aquired for CN, not AS, originally. Because it wasn't bought by Kim Manning or Mike Lazzlo, who were the main programmers for the block at the time, they refused to support the show and were simply running it late night until their contract came (they actually both flat out hated the show and if you dig around the Adult Swim Message Board you may still find old threads where one or both would pop up and go on dissing rants over it).

The only reason that plan stopped early is that Funimation started their liner channel on cable/satellite and asked for, and received back, the rights to Case Closed so they could air it there. So Adult Swim was never going to air any more Case Closed after the first 52, which BTW they never actually aired all 52 episodes. Two episodes were pulled and never aired as part of the package AS had the rights to show (I know one was Ep 52 and the other, IIRC, was a episode was about a diving mystery (they jumped over that episode))
I don't recall ever seeing them say anything about hating the show. Just searched both their names to be sure and didn't find anything of the sort in fact. Lazzo's never commented about it, at least not on the message boards under his screen name mnl there, and Kim said the reason more weren't picked up was because of ratings. Also, it was 50 episodes she said they got, though they only played 48. I always thought the diving one was skipped for content reasons, given that it was so close to the Olympics at the time and they didn't want to show an episode dealing with a diver being killed.

But anyway, if they hated it so much though, why would they rerun it so many times during the 5 a.m. hour later on? They certainly didn't need to do that, and my impression always was that they initially used that hour for fan favorites and stuff they did actually like that just weren't big enough ratings grabbers to warrant playing them during the earlier hours of the night. BTW, where is this it wasn't bought for AS originally thing coming from? I never saw anything indicating that was the case. AS made quite a show of picking it up initially from what I remember.