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ChibiGoku
11-22-2008, 10:51 AM
I've actually been hearing rumours of this for a couple weeks now, but I've yet to see a confirmination of this. That is, until the one group that I was following dropped it because of a C&D order sent by FUNimation. So whether or not this means that they have an actual license to it, I honestly don't know. Soul Eater is a Dentsu title, so it may be that sole (no pun intended) reason for them to send it out.

I just thought I'd get this out there.

blinx01
11-22-2008, 11:03 AM
They also sent out C&D for Hitman Reborn.
If you look back, that was part of a huge batch of animes which were targeted a while back, none of which FUNi have licensed.
Once again, I think this is FUNi acting on behalf of the Japanese license holders.

ChibiGoku
11-22-2008, 11:20 AM
Yeah, I already noted this in the post (though, not mentioning the whole "batch" of titles). I was just mentioning it is all to get it out there.

Vegard Aune
11-22-2008, 11:30 AM
Soul Eater is a Dentsu title, so it may be that soul (no pun intended) reason for them to send it out.
...I don't believe you.
Also, I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, if it means that the series is licensed, then awesome. I was hoping for that to happen. But regardless of whether it's licensed or not, I still hate it when they shut down fansub-groups, as I find it to be way too easy to get spoiled about anything if I'm not caught up. As a matter of fact, the shows I'm caught up with are just about the only shows I watch where I don't already know what happens later. So if this is just them acting on behalf of the japanese license-holders, then... I'm annoyed.

ChibiGoku
11-22-2008, 11:51 AM
Soul Eater is a Dentsu title, so it may be that soul (no pun intended) reason for them to send it out.
...I don't believe you.


Honestly, I didn't notice it until I wrote it out. :sd:

Anyways, usually it's in FUNimation's best interest to remove fansubs. I can honestly understand why they do it and I think it's generally a good idea to. However, it does suck for people trying to follow the series as it aired and don't understand Japanese.

hikaru004
11-22-2008, 12:01 PM
And that really stopped the subs...Yeah, right.

If you got it, announce it and stream it.

something
11-22-2008, 12:01 PM
Yeah yeah, more C&Ds with nothing to back it up for the fans. Half a dozen groups will still continue. Nothing changes. Yawn.

Call me when Funi is actually ready to do something constructive, like get me some DVDs to buy.

choujin1
11-22-2008, 12:03 PM
Soul Eater is a Dentsu title, so it may be that soul (no pun intended) reason for them to send it out.
...I don't believe you.


Honestly, I didn't notice it until I wrote it out. :sd:


Given the context, I believe you actually meant to use "sole."

dragonrider_cody
11-22-2008, 12:06 PM
Funimation did say it had hoped to announce a "big" title, but that hasn't surfaced yet. I've been thinking it was either this or the Eva movie. Of course, that doesn't mean they finalized a deal to get it, though this does seem like a big ticket anime Funi would go after. But I doubt Soul Eater could be really successful without a TV airing, and it's increasingly hard to get those.

I'm betting Funi is looking hard into this license if they don't already have it.

ChibiGoku
11-22-2008, 12:10 PM
Soul Eater is a Dentsu title, so it may be that soul (no pun intended) reason for them to send it out.
...I don't believe you.


Honestly, I didn't notice it until I wrote it out. :sd:


Given the context, I believe you actually meant to use "sole."

...I didn't even catch that. Damn, my ability to spell is getting worse.

magicalgirlj
11-22-2008, 12:34 PM
They also sent out C&D for Hitman Reborn.
If you look back, that was part of a huge batch of animes which were targeted a while back, none of which FUNi have licensed.
Once again, I think this is FUNi acting on behalf of the Japanese license holders.

which I hope KHR gets licensed. but soul eater would be a good title for Funi

Doom85
11-22-2008, 01:06 PM
They also sent out C&D for Hitman Reborn.
If you look back, that was part of a huge batch of animes which were targeted a while back, none of which FUNi have licensed.
Once again, I think this is FUNi acting on behalf of the Japanese license holders.

which I hope KHR gets licensed. but soul eater would be a good title for Funi

Indeed, Soul Eater has great animation, and a nice combo of humor and fighting (I've only seen the first 5 episodes though), I'd love for Funimation to license it.

hikaru004
11-22-2008, 01:07 PM
I'd love for FUNi to release it if they don't mess up the video quality and give it good packaging and all the extras in the Japanese release if it had any.

blinx01
11-22-2008, 01:30 PM
If FUNi are indeed after licensing the title, then it'd be logical of them to at least wait to see how it ends.
The series has been great so far but it's only scheduled for 51 eps and the manga's still on-going, so it could be a train wreck, although based on what Bones have done so far, it's unlikely...

Suwako Moriya
11-22-2008, 02:24 PM
Well if FUNimation ever does announce Soul Eater, I won't be surprised at all. Heck I figure it's only a matter of time. So long of course as the licensing cost isn't insane of course. That being said thankfully for me, I won't be effected regardless who licenses it.

something
11-22-2008, 02:53 PM
If FUNi are indeed after licensing the title, then it'd be logical of them to at least wait to see how it ends.
I think people overemphasize how much that matters. Even if Soul Eater disappoints in the end somehow, that really won't matter for its prospects in R1, especially for this type of show. Get it on TV and Hulu, sell it to all sorts of people that don't have any idea how it ended, and it'll do perfectly fine. I mean, what IF the last few eps sucked? Do you really think Funi would go "Uh oh, guess we shouldn't license it now!"? Of course not. It'll sell very well regardless.

blinx01
11-22-2008, 06:30 PM
If FUNi are indeed after licensing the title, then it'd be logical of them to at least wait to see how it ends.
I think people overemphasize how much that matters. Even if Soul Eater disappoints in the end somehow, that really won't matter for its prospects in R1, especially for this type of show. Get it on TV and Hulu, sell it to all sorts of people that don't have any idea how it ended, and it'll do perfectly fine. I mean, what IF the last few eps sucked? Do you really think Funi would go "Uh oh, guess we shouldn't license it now!"? Of course not. It'll sell very well regardless.
Alot of the people that buy DVD's will have already seen the shows before hand. Not many people will actually buy blindly, especially when money's so tight these days.
For these fans, if the series is ruined by a crappy ending, then they might not feel it's worth buying the DVD's for collections sake.
I know alot of people who came to this decision with Claymore due to the half assed ending.
Like I said though, this is being handled by Bones so the series is in safe hands as far as I'm concerned, but none the less, it's worrying to see anime companies licensing stuff without much thought. FUNi may very well be top of the pack now but all they need is for a few investments to fail and all of a sudden they start walking the same path ADV took...

something
11-22-2008, 06:44 PM
Alot of the people that buy DVD's will have already seen the shows before hand. Not many people will actually buy blindly, especially when money's so tight these days.
Debatable, of course, and the importance of this varies by how much mainstream appeal a show has. Something like, say, Marimite or Aria might have needed to worry about that, because almost nobody outside the AOD crowd will give those half a look if they haven't already seen it. But Soul Eater? With presumed TV exposure? Not at all. I mean, Naruto's well known, heck utterly infamous, year+ of horrid filler didn't slow that show's sales down.

As for Claymore, I have a feeling that if we ever got access to sales data, it would be pretty much the perfect example to disprove your concerns here.

Draneor
11-22-2008, 07:05 PM
[I]t's worrying to see anime companies licensing stuff without much thought. FUNi may very well be top of the pack now but all they need is for a few investments to fail and all of a sudden they start walking the same path ADV took...

Anime fans want anime released stateside quicker, but they also want the licensors to wait until the show is finished? I don't really get it. License negotiations and localization take a long time. My understanding is the negotiations usually start before a series finishes or even before it is produced anyway.

Anyway, C&D doesn't mean anything other than the Japanese industry is expressing that they would rather their shows not be fansubbed. It's probably cheaper and more efficient to hire FUNimation to do it since they already have the expertise.

Suwako Moriya
11-22-2008, 07:16 PM
Anime fans want anime released stateside quicker, but they also want the licensors to wait until the show is finished? I don't really get it.

It's really quite simple. See after the final episode of show X airs, R1 Company Y is supposed to consult a special council. *Mysterious Music Plays*. If the council judges the series worthy then the R1 company must using magic powers causes the first volume or set to street the following Tuesday.:P

In regards to this "Wait till it's over talk", it's best for everyone to remember that consumers vary. Not just in terms of how much they watch (if any) before they buy, but in regards to their opinions. No matter what direction a show goes, it will have fans and detractors.

gundamseed
11-22-2008, 07:27 PM
When soul eater first start i was hype for it , fast forward and i don't care how it ends. Bones made the show go way to slow . On the point of buying anime the ending is most import part of anime for me. Not like matter unless comes of blu ray.

geotrio
11-22-2008, 07:58 PM
I'm not really a fan of shonen type shows but Soul Eater has really impressed me. I think it's the combination of the artwork and the character designs. If it does get licensed I hope it gets picked up by a company like FUNimation and not by Viz.

ArcticMech
11-22-2008, 08:56 PM
Assuming the license isn't outrageous, Soul Eater would be a rather low risk gamble for FUNi. It's in the most popular genre and sports great visuals. FUNi been successful with lesser titles, so I wouldn't bet against them if and when they do secure the license.

Fudce
11-22-2008, 09:09 PM
Anyway, C&D doesn't mean anything other than the Japanese industry is expressing that they would rather their shows not be fansubbed. It's probably cheaper and more efficient to hire FUNimation to do it since they already have the expertise.

Bingo. And Funimation are more than happy to act as their go to for C&D's because it shows the Japanese companies that Funimation is a good company that pays close attention to their rights, meaning that they're more likely to side with Funimation when deciding who to sell their titles to.

Fencedude
11-22-2008, 09:09 PM
Assuming the license isn't outrageous, Soul Eater would be a rather low risk gamble for FUNi. It's in the most popular genre and sports great visuals. FUNi been successful with lesser titles, so I wouldn't bet against them if and when they do secure the license.

Also, they can use these magic words when promoting it:

"From the creators of Full Metal Alchemist"

LordGeo
11-22-2008, 09:16 PM
Assuming the license isn't outrageous, Soul Eater would be a rather low risk gamble for FUNi. It's in the most popular genre and sports great visuals. FUNi been successful with lesser titles, so I wouldn't bet against them if and when they do secure the license.

Also, they can use these magic words when promoting it:

"From the creators of Full Metal Alchemist"

Well, technically it should be "From the studio behind Full Metal Alchemist"... Otherwise you might get people thinking that Arakawa made Soul Eater.

Fencedude
11-22-2008, 09:19 PM
Well, technically it should be "From the studio behind Full Metal Alchemist"... Otherwise you might get people thinking that Arakawa made Soul Eater.

The people the statement is aimed at probably don't have a clue who Arakawa is.

LordGeo
11-22-2008, 09:34 PM
Well, technically it should be "From the studio behind Full Metal Alchemist"... Otherwise you might get people thinking that Arakawa made Soul Eater.

The people the statement is aimed at probably don't have a clue who Arakawa is.

Yeah, but both say the same thing in essence, it's just that the one I used has no potential confusion behind it. Also, I have seen it used before on other releases, so it's not like it isn't used.

Fudce
11-22-2008, 09:37 PM
Well, technically it should be "From the studio behind Full Metal Alchemist"... Otherwise you might get people thinking that Arakawa made Soul Eater.

The people the statement is aimed at probably don't have a clue who Arakawa is.

Yeah, but both say the same thing in essence, it's just that the one I used has no potential confusion behind it. Also, I have seen it used before on other releases, so it's not like it isn't used.

It's like when ADV marketted Paniponi Dash, by saying it's "From the brains behind Negima!?". This was around the same time Funimation had just finished releasing Negima!.

Fencedude
11-22-2008, 09:44 PM
Well, technically it should be "From the studio behind Full Metal Alchemist"... Otherwise you might get people thinking that Arakawa made Soul Eater.

The people the statement is aimed at probably don't have a clue who Arakawa is.

Yeah, but both say the same thing in essence, it's just that the one I used has no potential confusion behind it. Also, I have seen it used before on other releases, so it's not like it isn't used.

They want the confusion.

KudosForce
11-22-2008, 10:45 PM
They want the confusion.

If that's the case, they should license Mahoraba for that reason alone. ;)

Zhemos
11-23-2008, 03:59 PM
Sigh. It's half-way through the season. I hope they announce they got the license and start streaming it. This kind of sucks.

I wouldn't have cared if they had done this around episode 3-5 but episode 33? Not cool Funimation, not cool at all.

Buckeye
11-23-2008, 04:03 PM
This is a title that thought that Viz would license and broadcast it on Cartoon Network. Well, if it is Funimation licensing it, I'm pretty sure that they should be thinking the same thing.