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something
09-26-2009, 06:30 PM
Just for the lulz here (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/F7VnP2lyXE_w8lk2XS8zJA?authkey=Gv1sRgCO2KgfnAr9mNB g&feat=directlink) is a video of what I'm currently not putting up with.
Yeah, that's not acceptable. Mine doesn't get that bad, but still bad enough that I don't find it acceptable to watch.

Fencedude
09-26-2009, 06:43 PM
That video looked pretty bad.

Anyone who has problems with the new player should definitely send CR an e-mail about it. I'm considering doing so anyway even though my computer is powerful enough that it works.

I can't say I've had an issue with it--in fact I didn't even notice they had switched.^^U But I also have a dual core...

As long as you have a dual core you should be fine. I have a Core2 Duo on this machine, I'll check at work tonight, which uses a dual core celeron.

But regardless, the player just isn't as good as the old one, not just performance wise.

Quarkboy
09-26-2009, 07:35 PM
I've been complaining internally for more than a week.

The subtitle display issue we 2 weeks ago. "It's on the bug tracker" is the best response I've gotten so far, and it's vexing to say the least.

I do not think they _understand_ that this sort of things actually effects people. Send emails complaining, cancel memberships, etc. I'm not sure what more could be done to pressure them to fix it faster.

something
09-26-2009, 07:41 PM
I've been complaining internally for more than a week.
The subtitle display issue we 2 weeks ago. "It's on the bug tracker" is the best response I've gotten so far, and it's vexing to say the least.
I do not think they _understand_ that this sort of things actually effects people. Send emails complaining, cancel memberships, etc. I'm not sure what more could be done to pressure them to fix it faster.
Glad we have someone internal who is bringing it up as well, though it's a bit disheartening that their reaction is less than speedy. It would really help if they just re-enabled the Old Player, but even then it's not an ideal solution. Because most people won't see that the old player is an option, and with the default to new player they'll just say "CR has glitches." and, well, that's not the impression they want to give.

I'm very much invested in CR continuing to grow and be successful so here's hoping they can clear this up sooner, not later.

rpereyda
09-26-2009, 09:19 PM
Something, your concern is in the hopper and being addressed right now. Our "push" (of new code) happened as someone was traveling, so this made it a little more complicated than normal to take a look at.

The new simulcast season is around the corner and we have some really cool shows: both the offbeat "WTF" genre shows we have been getting a lot of lately AND really cool, mainstream "OMG YES" shows as well.

Fencedude
09-26-2009, 09:25 PM
The new simulcast season is around the corner and we have some really cool shows: both the offbeat "WTF" genre shows we have been getting a lot of lately AND really cool, mainstream "OMG YES" shows as well.

I don't think I've ever quite tried to divide anime up into those specific categories before.

The Great Bear
09-26-2009, 09:29 PM
The new simulcast season is around the corner and we have some really cool shows: both the offbeat "WTF" genre shows we have been getting a lot of lately AND really cool, mainstream "OMG YES" shows as well.

Well, that sounds…interesting. Perhaps I will be reviewing one of these shows. So, what should I pick. OMG YES or WTF?

Quarkboy
09-26-2009, 09:54 PM
The new simulcast season is around the corner and we have some really cool shows: both the offbeat "WTF" genre shows we have been getting a lot of lately AND really cool, mainstream "OMG YES" shows as well.

Well, that sounds…interesting. Perhaps I will be reviewing one of these shows. So, what should I pick. OMG YES or WTF?

Don't pay too much attention to Rob: he divides everything in the world into WTF, OMG YES, and BAM

CR is getting a bunch of really good shows, a couple of shows with the potential to be good. And some where I can only shake my head and hope for the best :).

something
09-26-2009, 10:09 PM
Something, your concern is in the hopper and being addressed right now. Our "push" (of new code) happened as someone was traveling, so this made it a little more complicated than normal to take a look at.
I'll stay hopeful, as I imagine I'm going to want to watch quite a few of those 13 shows. Also nice to see a CR person posting on the forums.

Fencedude
09-26-2009, 10:11 PM
And some where I can only shake my head and hope for the best :).

They totally have Mystery Train. And they made you translate it!

Draneor
09-26-2009, 10:45 PM
The new simulcast season is around the corner and we have some really cool shows: both the offbeat "WTF" genre shows we have been getting a lot of lately AND really cool, mainstream "OMG YES" shows as well.

So basically, there won't be anything I'm interested in (if they're mainstream or just unusual ones). Always good to not get my hopes up.

something
09-26-2009, 11:00 PM
So basically, there won't be anything I'm interested in (if they're mainstream or just unusual ones). Always good to not get my hopes up.
Wait, you can translate those categories just from that? Let us in on the secret too. =P I sure can't tell which of the upcoming shows would be considered either unusual or mainstream. And unusual or mainstream to who?

Anyway, I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet. It's not like CR has been devoid of variety thus far so I'm sure there'll be a good range this season.

Fencedude
09-26-2009, 11:03 PM
So basically, there won't be anything I'm interested in (if they're mainstream or just unusual ones). Always good to not get my hopes up.

Draneor, I'm pretty sure that most of the shows you like would fall under "unusual"

Suwako Moriya
09-26-2009, 11:28 PM
The new simulcast season is around the corner and we have some really cool shows: both the offbeat "WTF" genre shows we have been getting a lot of lately AND really cool, mainstream "OMG YES" shows as well.

Interesting, let's just see how many of those will be ones that catch my interest.

einhorn303
09-27-2009, 12:06 AM
The new simulcast season is around the corner and we have some really cool shows: both the offbeat "WTF" genre shows we have been getting a lot of lately AND really cool, mainstream "OMG YES" shows as well.

Somehow when he says "genre shows" there I thinks he means some pretty (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Aoihana) specific (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Saki) genres (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Kanamemo).

We need a "moemoe~!" emoticon on AoDVD.

In terms of shows I'll be interested in, maybe it's just me, but the output from Japan does seem to be getting rather hit-or-miss lately. Even premises I couldn't imagine not liking (moe orphan who always 'does her best'? That's ore no fechi!) have underwhelmed me. But there should at least be one show each season I can really get engrossed in.

bayoab
09-27-2009, 02:43 AM
Really quick note for those with slow video, the highest video quality is now turned on by default. Disable the smoothing via right click and things should go from slide show to non-slide show most of the time.

something
09-27-2009, 03:09 AM
Really quick note for those with slow video, the highest video quality is now turned on by default. Disable the smoothing via right click and things should go from slide show to non-slide show most of the time.
I'm still getting jerkiness when I do that. Slightly less, but too much. It also makes it look fairly terrible... It's the fact that we're forced into the new player causing the problems, not choosing a higher quality. I ran 720p shows fullscreened with all the features turned on without a hitch in old player. But now, new player with smoothing on doesn't look any better (again, worse if anything) than old player, and with smoothing off it is... urgh. It's certainly not what I'm used to seeing from an episode of Gendai Mahou on CR. I'm holding out hope that whatever rpereyda was talking about results in huge quality and playback enhancements. Even if it just gets back to the quality of the old player I'll be happy.

Fudce
09-27-2009, 04:28 AM
Really quick note for those with slow video, the highest video quality is now turned on by default. Disable the smoothing via right click and things should go from slide show to non-slide show most of the time.

That would help if I could right click, but I watch most of my Crunchy stuff via the PS3 where there is no right click. :(

Quarkboy
09-27-2009, 06:17 AM
Really quick note for those with slow video, the highest video quality is now turned on by default. Disable the smoothing via right click and things should go from slide show to non-slide show most of the time.

That would help if I could right click, but I watch most of my Crunchy stuff via the PS3 where there is no right click. :(

You sure you couldn't hook a USB mouse up? I'm not sure they've implemented right click in the browser, though...

Shiroi Hane
09-27-2009, 09:50 AM
Really quick note for those with slow video, the highest video quality is now turned on by default. Disable the smoothing via right click and things should go from slide show to non-slide show most of the time.

I gave up trying to get it to play reliably enough again to take video (exactly how it is using all the available CPU power to display a still image while playing music is beyond me), but imagine this (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HEnnD0iwaqGZZDOQ3BzI9g?authkey=Gv1sRgCO2KgfnAr9mNB g&feat=directlink) jerking along and you've got the idea.

calimike
09-28-2009, 02:44 AM
I got email from Crunchyroll Newsletter say

hey guys~lots of exciting things are happening here, especially for the fall season! I can't say what we have lined up yet, but for more information, follow this page: http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup?src=newsletter_20090928 for more information! It will be updated frequently, giving you the chance to be the FIRST to know!

I wonder what anime series is? I guess It's Cross Game lol!!!
http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup?src=newsletter_20090928

Fencedude
09-28-2009, 03:31 AM
I got email from Crunchyroll Newsletter say

hey guys~lots of exciting things are happening here, especially for the fall season! I can't say what we have lined up yet, but for more information, follow this page: http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup?src=newsletter_20090928 for more information! It will be updated frequently, giving you the chance to be the FIRST to know!

I wonder what anime series is? I guess It's Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's lol!!!
http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup?src=newsletter_20090928

So I take it you didn't read the thread?

And 5D's isn't starting this season, so I don't know why you'd guess that of all things.

something
09-28-2009, 06:26 AM
I wonder what anime series is? I guess It's Cross Game lol!!!
http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup?src=newsletter_20090928
Heh, even if you edit your post from 5Ds to Cross Game, it can't be that since it's not a fall season show, it's a continuation from previous seasons.

ChibiGoku
09-28-2009, 06:51 AM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?

Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.

Quarkboy
09-28-2009, 06:55 AM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?

Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.

See, I told you no one would be able to guess. "Barepack" indeed.

Please check it out and post your thoughts (in the appropriate thread in general anime, of course). I'm quite curious.

The Great Bear
09-28-2009, 07:06 AM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?

Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.

See, I told you no one would be able to guess. "Barepack" indeed.

Please check it out and post your thoughts (in the appropriate thread in general anime, of course). I'm quite curious.

*Looks at CR info pages and episode descriptions*

So, would this be one of the WTF?!? shows?

Because it doesn't look like a OMG YES! show to me.

something
09-28-2009, 07:17 AM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?
Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.
Naked Wolves? I don't remember seeing that on any of the Fall lists. And uh, all 26 episodes available in 7 days? Is this how it's coming out in Japan too? Because if not, it's not really a simulcast. :sd:

I find it unlikely that I could watch something with this sort of art style, regardless. 12 more to go though.

Quarkboy
09-28-2009, 07:18 AM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?

Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.

See, I told you no one would be able to guess. "Barepack" indeed.

Please check it out and post your thoughts (in the appropriate thread in general anime, of course). I'm quite curious.

*Looks at CR info pages and episode descriptions*

So, would this be one of the WTF?!? shows?

Because it doesn't look like a OMG YES! show to me.

Actually, I'm not sure this even counts as one of the 13... It is a simulcast though, but it's starting with ep 25 simulcast and the earlier episodes all available at once (for members... for non-members 6 episodes free per week, so catching up in 4 weeks).

But yeah. Considering no one has ever heard of this I would hesitate to put this in an "OMG YES" category.

Quarkboy
09-28-2009, 07:19 AM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?
Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.
Naked Wolves? I don't remember seeing that on any of the Fall lists. And uh, all 26 episodes available in 7 days? Is this how it's coming out in Japan too? Because if not, it's not really a simulcast. :sd:

I find it unlikely that I could watch something with this sort of art style, regardless. 12 more to go though.

It's a 50 episode show, 24 eps have aired. So it's a simul starting 25 weeks late and catching up immediately. 1 ep will be released every week from now until the end. Oh... don't feel like you need to be kind to it just 'cause I'm translating it. Be honest...

Draneor
09-28-2009, 07:22 AM
And uh, all 26 episodes available in 7 days? Is this how it's coming out in Japan too? Because if not, it's not really a simulcast. :sd:

CR has used "simulcasts" to describe shows that had already aired in their entirety as before so I'm not surprised. CR has so much marketing bullshit to get past to get what they're really trying to say...

Incidentally, shows like Naked Wolves are why I'm taking a pessimistic approach.

something
09-28-2009, 07:28 AM
CR has used "simulcasts" to describe shows that had already aired in their entirety as before so I'm not surprised. CR has so much marketing bullshit to get past...
They did have Kurokami in their "simulcasts" when it wasn't really, yes, but by and large most of their listed simulcasts really have been, far as I can tell. So I'm sure almost all of the 13 will be actual Fall season shows in the traditional sense. And Quark noted that this might not even be one of the 13. It could be leaked early, but the first isn't supposed to be announced until 12PST/3EST.

einhorn303
09-28-2009, 09:27 AM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?

Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.

Looks like some rather Adult Swim-ish fare.

I also don't think it counts as one of the 13 simulcasts, since it's not tied into the announcement schedule at http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup (with all announcements at Noon PST).

ChibiGoku
09-28-2009, 12:00 PM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?

Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.

Looks like some rather Adult Swim-ish fare.

I also don't think it counts as one of the 13 simulcasts, since it's not tied into the announcement schedule at http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup (with all announcements at Noon PST).

Well, so much for that hope. Check the page now. :sweat:

Quarkboy
09-28-2009, 12:04 PM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?

Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.

Looks like some rather Adult Swim-ish fare.

I also don't think it counts as one of the 13 simulcasts, since it's not tied into the announcement schedule at http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup (with all announcements at Noon PST).

Well, so much for that hope. Check the page now. :sweat:
Interesting, they made it the first announcement... Well, guess you don't want to blow all the big surprises up front then, hah!

something
09-28-2009, 12:17 PM
Well, so much for that hope. Check the page now. :sweat:
Well... hrm. At least there's a dozen left. We should keep a tally of what shows are officially out of the running when their air date passes without an announcement. I can't get to that chart at work though.

I know Queen's Blade 2 is, utterly unsurprisingly, already out of the running since it aired ep 1 already. Then again this entry bends the whole "simulcast" concept a bit so it's possible some shows *won't* be announced before their first episode. Though I'd imagine any show that's truly starting in Fall (not continuing from before) will be.

tadakichi
09-28-2009, 12:38 PM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?
Looking around seems to show up nothing. Only thing is that it's a Pony Canyon series, so I'll look around their website in a bit... Judging from the screenshots, I... really don't know if I'd be interested or not.
Naked Wolves? I don't remember seeing that on any of the Fall lists. And uh, all 26 episodes available in 7 days? Is this how it's coming out in Japan too? Because if not, it's not really a simulcast. :sd:

I find it unlikely that I could watch something with this sort of art style, regardless. 12 more to go though.

It's a 50 episode show, 24 eps have aired. So it's a simul starting 25 weeks late and catching up immediately. 1 ep will be released every week from now until the end. Oh... don't feel like you need to be kind to it just 'cause I'm translating it. Be honest...

Interesting. I think most of us assumed that all 13 new simulcasts would be new Fall shows (well, at least I did), but if continuing shows are fair game, that introduces some tantalizing new possibilities. Like, say, Umineko. Or Cross Game. Actually, those are the only two I can think of. What other summer season (and earlier) shows that CR doesn't already have are continuing into the fall season?

Fencedude
09-28-2009, 12:57 PM
I'm quite sure I'll be passing on this one.

Suwako Moriya
09-28-2009, 01:16 PM
Well, apparently one of these shows is... Naked Wolves (http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-533498/naked-wolves-1/)?

So much for the hope that "Naked Wolves" would be about female werewolves that conveniently ended up in states of undress during the course of the series. What?

In any case, I'm not exactly interested in shows of that err art style. From the sound of it, it seems to essentially boil down to the random adventures of some guy.

bayoab
09-28-2009, 01:25 PM
Well, so much for that hope. Check the page now. :sweat:
Well... hrm. At least there's a dozen left. We should keep a tally of what shows are officially out of the running when their air date passes without an announcement. I can't get to that chart at work though.

I know Queen's Blade 2 is, utterly unsurprisingly, already out of the running since it aired ep 1 already. Then again this entry bends the whole "simulcast" concept a bit so it's possible some shows *won't* be announced before their first episode. Though I'd imagine any show that's truly starting in Fall (not continuing from before) will be.There is always the possibility that the simulcast will start at ep 2 or 3. It has happened before.

malazar
09-28-2009, 01:36 PM
At least the schedule on the Fall lineup page still shows that we will get another announcement today.

Quarkboy
09-28-2009, 01:44 PM
Haha, it seems CR psyched you guys out (and me, too...)

I'd check their front page now.

Fencedude
09-28-2009, 01:50 PM
Haha, it seems CR psyched you guys out (and me, too...)

I'd check their front page now.

0/2

The Great Bear
09-28-2009, 01:52 PM
Haha, it seems CR psyched you guys out (and me, too...)

I'd check their front page now.

0/2

Ditto.

I'm still waiting for a show that would be worth my time to review.

Suwako Moriya
09-28-2009, 01:57 PM
I'd check their front page now.

Assuming I actually find the motivation and time to try "Letter Bee" how I will ultimately feel about watching more will depend on what type of impression the early episodes create. Right now, it's in my "I'll let others try it first" category.

Yes, even I a person with no life don't have unlimited time. I have to save time for things like playing games and oh, re-watching stuff I've already seen a dozen times. Yes, I'm crazy. (Sometimes I try to watch two or three shows at once).

malazar
09-28-2009, 01:59 PM
Haha, it seems CR psyched you guys out (and me, too...)

I'd check their front page now.

That's 1/2 for me. I was definitely planning on giving this series a try.

Suwako Moriya
09-28-2009, 02:02 PM
I'm still waiting for a show that would be worth my time to review.

I take it you're going to reject my idea of a dart board with pictures of the new shows on it and the use of a blind fold?

Actually, it would be curious to see if certain older series could also get reviews. No prizes for guessing which show(s), I'm thinking of here.

Fudce
09-28-2009, 02:05 PM
Letter Bee wasn't one of the series I had on my radar, but I may decide to give one episode a try, given that it's there.

something
09-28-2009, 02:29 PM
I don't really know anything about this one so I might as well check it out. The description in the news post is neither enticing nor off-putting, though it being a Jump title has me dialing back any expectations, I guess.

I guess this means we can expect a full 13 not counting Naked Wolves now? That's cool.

Quarkboy
09-28-2009, 02:44 PM
Letter Bee is serious fantasy shounen. In my opinion it's some of the best written shounen I've read in who knows how long.

Check it out, seriously.

HitokiriShadow
09-28-2009, 02:51 PM
Well, so much for that hope. Check the page now. :sweat:

I can safely say I will definitely not be watching Naked Wolves. I'll give Letter Bee a chance, but the PV doesn't give me any reason to expect much from it.

Oh well, there's still 11 more and I'm still confident there will be several that will be of at least moderate interest to me.

tadakichi
09-28-2009, 03:22 PM
Haha, it seems CR psyched you guys out (and me, too...)

I'd check their front page now.

Letter Bee... eh, I'll check it out. That loli near the end of the PV was kind of cute.

Are they intentionally announcing all the shows you're translating first? Only "Secret 1" is left now...

Shiroi Hane
09-28-2009, 03:29 PM
Oh... don't feel like you need to be kind to it just 'cause I'm translating it. Be honest...
I have to ask why someone has taken what looks like a flash animation, converted it to video and is now streaming it via a flash video player.

ThatOneMan
09-28-2009, 04:01 PM
Looks like there will be more than 13 titles according to their press release. That makes the 50% claim seem much more believable. Although Naked Wolves is definitely not funny. I enjoyed Eagle Talon much more than this. I wish they uploaded more of that series.

TEGAMI BACHI: LETTER BEE joins over 20 other titles to form Crunchyroll's Fall 2009 Anime Lineup

Edit: Nevermind, just realized they calculated the continuing series in this.

tadakichi
09-28-2009, 04:06 PM
Oh... don't feel like you need to be kind to it just 'cause I'm translating it. Be honest...
I have to ask why someone has taken what looks like a flash animation, converted it to video and is now streaming it via a flash video player.

Holy crap, it really does look that bad. Apparently it isn't even notable enough to have a Wikipedia page (in English or Japanese), either. I really hope they're just giving Pony Canyon a cut of the ad revenue or something like that and didn't actually pay up front for this.

Suwako Moriya
09-28-2009, 04:29 PM
I have to ask why someone has taken what looks like a flash animation, converted it to video and is now streaming it via a flash video player.

My theory is that it boils down to being "bored". In any case, I made an "attempt" to try out an episode and ultimately decided I was better off watching something else. Yeah, each episode is only five minutes. However I can find much better way to spend five minutes than to waste it on "Naked Wolves". So, yeah definitely not for me.

something
09-28-2009, 04:53 PM
Letter Bee is serious fantasy shounen. In my opinion it's some of the best written shounen I've read in who knows how long.
Check it out, seriously.
I was going to, but just please tell me it's not coming from the "never ever ending" school of Jump philosophy. :sd:

Draneor
09-28-2009, 07:14 PM
0/2 as well.

Mitsuki
09-28-2009, 07:30 PM
Well, Naked Wolves definitely wasn't on my radar.

Neither was Letter Bee, but I may check it out.

dragonpiece
09-28-2009, 09:53 PM
I am hoping for Fairy Tail! Letter Bee is a great manga by the way you all should give it a chance.

DiGiKerot
09-29-2009, 01:59 PM
Today's reveal is Asura Cryin', including the first season.

einhorn303
09-29-2009, 02:03 PM
Today's reveal is Asura Cryin', including the first season.

So, we might see other shows that aren't necessarily beginning their first cour this Fall?

DiGiKerot
09-29-2009, 02:05 PM
Today's reveal is Asura Cryin', including the first season.

So, we might see other shows that aren't necessarily beginning their first cour this Fall?

Well, the first season of Asura Cryin, whilst recent, was separated from this upcoming season by three months, so I wouldn't read any more into it than you'd be able to read into them getting the second season of Hayate.

something
09-29-2009, 02:08 PM
Today's reveal is Asura Cryin', including the first season.
Fantastic! A show I most certainly intended to watch, as I liked the first season. And we'll get more timely subs this time!

Suwako Moriya
09-29-2009, 02:09 PM
Today's reveal is Asura Cryin', including the first season.

Ah, yes "Surely Confusing" the anime is a nice choice. In all seriousness, I'd say it's one of the better choices. I'm mixed on the first season, but still have an interest in the second season.

bci110
09-29-2009, 02:11 PM
I don't know about this one. Looks like a pass to me.

Personally I'm hoping that they will get the rights to stream Kobato.

DiGiKerot
09-29-2009, 02:13 PM
Today's reveal is Asura Cryin', including the first season.

Ah, yes "Surely Confusing" the anime is a nice choice. In all seriousness, I'd say it's one of the better choices. I'm mixed on the first season, but still have an interest in the second season.

"Surely Confusing" is right, but it's so unapologetically nuts I can't help but find it somewhat charming (though, truth be told, I'm not a massive fan of the character designs for some reason I can't quite put my finger on).

That said, I did stall somewhere near the end of the first season, so I'm glad they picked that one up as well.

tadakichi
09-29-2009, 02:19 PM
Today's reveal is Asura Cryin', including the first season.

Hmmm... I dropped the first season after a couple of episodes. Now that it'll be available with CR-quality subs I might pick it back up. "Might" being the operative word here.

On a different note, I see that Naked Wolves has been removed from the "Fall Lineup" page. Also, today's announcement actually came as scheduled at noon Pacific time.

Suwako Moriya
09-29-2009, 02:27 PM
"Surely Confusing" is right, but it's so unapologetically nuts I can't help but find it somewhat charming (though, truth be told, I'm not a massive fan of the character designs for some reason I can't quite put my finger on).

The character designs aren't exactly amazing, but I was never really bothered by them. In any case, while season 1 was fine, I'm hoping that season 2 of Asura Crying will get that needed change of focus.

Fencedude
09-29-2009, 02:46 PM
Well, the first season of Asura Cryin, whilst recent, was separated from this upcoming season by three months, so I wouldn't read any more into it than you'd be able to read into them getting the second season of Hayate.

Oh, fantastic. I wonder if this means we get W.A. Second as well.

Edit: And Sekirei when it airs! And possibly future Nanoha...

Suwako Moriya
09-29-2009, 02:59 PM
Oh, fantastic. I wonder if this means we get W.A. Second as well.

Well, that would be interesting, but unless it ends a certain way I'm not touching it.

Edit: And Sekirei when it airs! And possibly future Nanoha...

Sekirei, I might consider. As for Nanoha, it would be interesting if they put up StrikerS. So that way those who have Original and As can watch it legit.

DiGiKerot
09-29-2009, 03:33 PM
Well, the first season of Asura Cryin, whilst recent, was separated from this upcoming season by three months, so I wouldn't read any more into it than you'd be able to read into them getting the second season of Hayate.

Oh, fantastic. I wonder if this means we get W.A. Second as well.

Edit: And Sekirei when it airs! And possibly future Nanoha...

Sekirei is Aniplex, though, isn't it? I do wonder if that may preclude if from appearing on Crunchyroll.

Fencedude
09-29-2009, 03:38 PM
Sekirei is Aniplex, though, isn't it? I do wonder if that may preclude if from appearing on Crunchyroll.

Sekirei is Aniplex/MOVIC/Seven Arcs, while all I see on ANN for Asura is Seven Arcs, so who knows?

DiGiKerot
09-29-2009, 03:44 PM
Sekirei is Aniplex, though, isn't it? I do wonder if that may preclude if from appearing on Crunchyroll.

Sekirei is Aniplex/MOVIC/Seven Arcs, while all I see on ANN for Asura is Seven Arcs, so who knows?

Asura Cryin' was published by King Records (Star Child), which I think was the case for Nanoha as well.

I was just thinking about prior cases - Natsu no Arashi was Shaft/King Records, which we saw. Bakemonogatari was Shaft/Aniplex, which we didn't. I'd think the publisher is something we should put more weight into than the animation studio, and Aniplex have proven themselves more protective than most in the past (the new FMA and Kannagi have appeared online, but they'd already sown up distribution R1-side for those at that point).

EmperorBrandon
09-29-2009, 08:21 PM
Asura Cryin' was published by King Records (Star Child), which I think was the case for Nanoha as well.

I was just thinking about prior cases - Natsu no Arashi was Shaft/King Records, which we saw. Bakemonogatari was Shaft/Aniplex, which we didn't. I'd think the publisher is something we should put more weight into than the animation studio, and Aniplex have proven themselves more protective than most in the past (the new FMA and Kannagi have appeared online, but they'd already sown up distribution R1-side for those at that point).

The press release (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/press-release/2009-09-29/crunchyroll-and-starchild-cryin-for-some-action) specifically mentions Starchild too.

Draneor
09-29-2009, 08:30 PM
I'm afraid to say I've never heard of Asura Cryin. I looks, perhaps, a bit violent for my tastes (although the character designs are nice).

Fencedude
09-29-2009, 08:33 PM
I'm afraid to say I've never heard of Asura Cryin. I looks, perhaps, a bit violent for my tastes (although the character designs are nice).

Well its not like we were hiding (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=92108) it from you or anything.

Fencedude
09-29-2009, 10:39 PM
I was just thinking about prior cases - Natsu no Arashi was Shaft/King Records, which we saw. Bakemonogatari was Shaft/Aniplex, which we didn't. I'd think the publisher is something we should put more weight into than the animation studio, and Aniplex have proven themselves more protective than most in the past (the new FMA and Kannagi have appeared online, but they'd already sown up distribution R1-side for those at that point).

It might be worthwhile to make a list of what publishers have had their shows show up on CR, and see if we can find any patterns between the publisher and the production companies.

Looking at the shows that should be starting in the next day or so, I'd be happy with almost any of them, though I'd definitely like Kampfer or RAILGUN.

einhorn303
09-29-2009, 10:53 PM
I was just thinking about prior cases - Natsu no Arashi was Shaft/King Records, which we saw. Bakemonogatari was Shaft/Aniplex, which we didn't. I'd think the publisher is something we should put more weight into than the animation studio, and Aniplex have proven themselves more protective than most in the past (the new FMA and Kannagi have appeared online, but they'd already sown up distribution R1-side for those at that point).

It might be worthwhile to make a list of what publishers have had their shows show up on CR, and see if we can find any patterns between the publisher and the production companies.


Well, CrunchyRoll does have this page:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/IndexByPublisher

I'm not quite sure about the exact role of some entities, though. Plus you have R1 companies and random unknown stuff mixed in. Also, the page doesn't seem to be maintained too extensively...a lot of them just link to a "Can't view this publisher" error message.

Quarkboy
09-29-2009, 11:03 PM
I was just thinking about prior cases - Natsu no Arashi was Shaft/King Records, which we saw. Bakemonogatari was Shaft/Aniplex, which we didn't. I'd think the publisher is something we should put more weight into than the animation studio, and Aniplex have proven themselves more protective than most in the past (the new FMA and Kannagi have appeared online, but they'd already sown up distribution R1-side for those at that point).

It might be worthwhile to make a list of what publishers have had their shows show up on CR, and see if we can find any patterns between the publisher and the production companies.

Looking at the shows that should be starting in the next day or so, I'd be happy with almost any of them, though I'd definitely like Kampfer or RAILGUN.

To answer your question: some things distributed by King records go through Tv Tokyo, because Medianet (TV Tokyo's sub-company that handles international distro of their titles) also has a deal where they handle the international sales for some King records properties.

Isn't Japanese licensing fun? That's just the tip of the complex web of insanity.

Fencedude
09-30-2009, 01:57 PM
Natsu no Arashi 2 (http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-566077/new-fall-titles-natsu-no-arashi-2/).

No real surprise here.

Two announcements tomorrow, hopefully they'll be less expected.

DiGiKerot
09-30-2009, 02:01 PM
Natsu no Arashi 2 (http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-566077/new-fall-titles-natsu-no-arashi-2/).

No real surprise here.


True that there's no surprise, but I am glad for the confirmation, and I'm glad that they've got it out there relatively early rather that later when it may have been rather more anti-climatic.

Suwako Moriya
09-30-2009, 02:05 PM
Natsu no Arashi 2 (http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-566077/new-fall-titles-natsu-no-arashi-2/).

I don't suppose there are any surprises for predicting that one...

Two announcements tomorrow, hopefully they'll be less expected.

That would be nice, but then again there might be a benefit to getting the "Of course, we have the new season of this. We got the previous season, remember?" shows out of the way.

On that note, I wonder how many of those shows would be left. The first one that comes to mind is "Shin Koihime Musou" due to them having "Koihime Musou", but beyond that I'm drawing a blank.

something
09-30-2009, 02:13 PM
Natsu no Arashi 2 (http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-566077/new-fall-titles-natsu-no-arashi-2/).
Since Naked Wolves is not in the 13, out of the 3 so far announced shows of the 13 new simulcasts that's two definite watches and one "give it a shot".

Quite good.

But all moot if they don't fix their player, of course.

something
09-30-2009, 02:14 PM
On that note, I wonder how many of those shows would be left. The first one that comes to mind is "Shin Koihime Musou" due to them having "Koihime Musou", but beyond that I'm drawing a blank.
Pretty sure that's the only one, and I'd very much like to see them get the second season...

...provided it doesn't get the poor treatment their recent acquisition of season one got.

Suwako Moriya
09-30-2009, 02:17 PM
...provided it doesn't get the poor treatment their recent acquisition of season one got.

I think my most complaint in regards to their treatment of Koihime Musou is the lack of previews. So if Shin Koihime Musou also has previews, I just know we're going to miss out on them.

something
09-30-2009, 02:18 PM
I think my most complaint in regards to their treatment of Koihime Musou is the lack of previews. So if Shin Koihime Musou also has previews, I just know we're going to miss out on them.
I was thinking more the terrible video quality, and I've seen people say the subtitles were below par as well. Here's hoping a simulcast would get better treatment.

tadakichi
09-30-2009, 02:18 PM
Natsu no Arashi 2 (http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-566077/new-fall-titles-natsu-no-arashi-2/).

No real surprise here.

Two announcements tomorrow, hopefully they'll be less expected.

Shinbo + SHAFT = not interested. The first season seems to have been pretty well-received, though, so this was a natural pickup for CR.

Kampfer and Nyan Koi are probably out of the running now, as the simulcasts would have to start tomorrow at around the same time the announcements are scheduled to take place.

Fencedude
09-30-2009, 02:22 PM
Shinbo + SHAFT = not interested. The first season seems to have been pretty well-received, though, so this was a natural pickup for CR.


Did you even try it?

LelouchLamperouge
09-30-2009, 02:26 PM
So far, 1/3 of the announced series already, Letter Bee is getting lonely. Not interested in the sequels. I gave Arashi and Asura a chance, but really didn't care for either of them.

tadakichi
09-30-2009, 02:38 PM
Shinbo + SHAFT = not interested. The first season seems to have been pretty well-received, though, so this was a natural pickup for CR.


Did you even try it?

No, but Shinbo's style drives me batty, at least in SHAFT productions. I have tried Tsukuyomi, Paniponi Dash, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, Maria Holic, and Bakemonogatari, and I didn't like any of them. Nanoha was excellent, though.

Fencedude
09-30-2009, 02:39 PM
Bakemonogatari, and I didn't like any of them.

HERESY!

Suwako Moriya
09-30-2009, 03:08 PM
Kampfer and Nyan Koi are probably out of the running now, as the simulcasts would have to start tomorrow at around the same time the announcements are scheduled to take place.

Actually, by the time the announcement is over both shows should have finished airing their first episode. Although I wouldn't rule out them because of that. Since Crunchyroll tends to put episodes after they air anyway. Just that in this case, episode 1 would be a bit later than usual.

If anything, I'd say the main reason to rule them out might be the fact they both air on TBS. Which from my experience tends to air the cropped 4:3 versions of shows. Shows that later get a 16:9 airing on a different station.

Which begs the question. Would Crunchyroll just bypass the 4:3 version and wait for the 16:9? Would they even be allowed the 16:9? If not then would they see any point to getting the show if they were only allowed the cropped version?

One positive to TBS is that it's possible to watch the live broadcast. It was kind of fun to watch both K-ON! and Taishou Yakyuu Musume live. Whether or not the same will hold true for Kampfer and Nyan Koi remains to be seen.

tadakichi
09-30-2009, 03:45 PM
Kampfer and Nyan Koi are probably out of the running now, as the simulcasts would have to start tomorrow at around the same time the announcements are scheduled to take place.

Actually, by the time the announcement is over both shows should have finished airing their first episode. Although I wouldn't rule out them because of that. Since Crunchyroll tends to put episodes after they air anyway. Just that in this case, episode 1 would be a bit later than usual.

If anything, I'd say the main reason to rule them out might be the fact they both air on TBS. Which from my experience tends to air the cropped 4:3 versions of shows. Shows that later get a 16:9 airing on a different station.

It's possible that they could delay the simulcast of the first episode, but all three shows announced so far have been announced with significant lead time. If they did have Nyan Koi or Kampfer (which start tomorrow), why would they announce Natsu no Arashi 2 (which doesn't start until the 4th) today instead?

As for the 4:3 thing, according to the most recent post on the Nyan Koi blog (http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/nyankoi/blog/blog.html), the show will be broadcast in 16:9. One would think that this applies to Kampfer as well, unless it's only being done on a trial basis.

Looking at TBS' entire back catalog, though, almost none of their shows have appeared on Crunchyroll without first being licensed for R1 DVD. The sole exception is Linebarrels of Iron, which was licensed through Gonzo and not TBS. So I suppose Nyan Koi and Kampfer were unlikely to begin with, assuming that TBS is the international licensor.

Suwako Moriya
09-30-2009, 04:32 PM
It's possible that they could delay the simulcast of the first episode, but all three shows announced so far have been announced with significant lead time. If they did have Nyan Koi or Kampfer (which start tomorrow), why would they announce Natsu no Arashi 2 (which doesn't start until the 4th) today instead?

To be honest, I'm not really sure. Although it's always possible that they might break the pattern a bit or cut it close with some shows.

As for the 4:3 thing, according to the most recent post on the Nyan Koi blog (http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/nyankoi/blog/blog.html), the show will be broadcast in 16:9. One would think that this applies to Kampfer as well, unless it's only being done on a trial basis.

Well, in the case of Kampfer, there was a preview for it after Pandora Hearts and if memory serves me right that preview was in 4:3. Still, I suppose it's possible TBS might finally be considering moving on to the 16:9 world. Only time will tell in the long run.

Draneor
09-30-2009, 08:37 PM
Like everyone else, I was expecting CR to get Natsu no Arashi 2. I'll be watching it so 1/4.

I think my most complaint in regards to their treatment of Koihime Musou is the lack of previews. So if Shin Koihime Musou also has previews, I just know we're going to miss out on them.

My main complaint is they aired the censored, TV version rather than the uncensored DVD one.

einhorn303
09-30-2009, 09:08 PM
I think my most complaint in regards to their treatment of Koihime Musou is the lack of previews. So if Shin Koihime Musou also has previews, I just know we're going to miss out on them.

My main complaint is they aired the censored, TV version rather than the uncensored DVD one.

I've always approached CR from the viewpoint of "it's a replacement/substitute for a TV broadcast," so I've never had problems with CR airing broadcast versions.

Fencedude
09-30-2009, 09:31 PM
Hey, Quarkboy, if you happen to know the translator for Asura Cryin', do you think you could beat into his head the proper way to sub names? IE SUB WHAT THEY SAY DAMMIT.

"Natsume-kun" should not be written as "Tomoharu" in subs.

something
09-30-2009, 09:54 PM
"Natsume-kun" should not be written as "Tomoharu" in subs.
Are you shitting... I'm not watching that. What the fuck, did someone hire a Viz reject?

Fencedude
09-30-2009, 09:59 PM
"Natsume-kun" should not be written as "Tomoharu" in subs.
Are you shitting... I'm not watching that. What the fuck, did someone hire a Viz reject?

Yeah, its annoying. Names are flipped, of course.

Actually this is the only instance of out and out changing I saw, most of the rest seemed more or less right. I may have caught a "Takatsuki" when Misao said "Kanade", but I think that was just a mistake since it was correct the rest of the episode.

Quarkboy
10-01-2009, 12:32 AM
Hey, Quarkboy, if you happen to know the translator for Asura Cryin', do you think you could beat into his head the proper way to sub names? IE SUB WHAT THEY SAY DAMMIT.

"Natsume-kun" should not be written as "Tomoharu" in subs.

Let's just say that I will be forwarding this complaint to the people I know at TV Tokyo so they can be aware of the opinions of the fans for this "quality" of subbing.

Fencedude
10-01-2009, 03:11 AM
Everyone who's had trouble with the player, there is a new option on the right-click menu "Fast Fullscreen", try enabling it and see what happens.

I seem to be getting CPU usage more in line with the old player, but since my machine was more than powerful enough so I'm not a good test.

something, Shiroi?

Further testing shows you need to enable Fast Fullscreen BEFORE going to full screen, and it does not affect playback when windowed, so you will get worse performance there.

I was playing the ED credits to Saki 25 with its system killing combination of scrolling credits and pans over large still images, and was only using ~40% of my CPU when fullscreen. Back when it first aired it was using 80~90, and now with Fast Fullscreen off it uses 60~70. So it does seem to be an improvement.

...but once again, someone with a shitty computer needs to test it.

Edit: Further further testing shows that on a 480p encode (such as Asura Cryin'), with Fast Fullscreen Off it uses ~50% of CPU, while with it on it uses ~10%. Playing an equivalent resolution file in MPC uses up ~20%. So thats damn good improvement there, since I know last night the 480p Asura Cryin was taking up 50~60% of my CPU.

There is an odd behavior with 480p files where turning fast fullscreen on makes the pop-up bar at the bottom MUCH bigger, but that seems like a minor issue in the grand scheme of things. I haven't noticed it with 720p videos.

Fencedude
10-01-2009, 03:48 AM
Hey, Quarkboy, if you happen to know the translator for Asura Cryin', do you think you could beat into his head the proper way to sub names? IE SUB WHAT THEY SAY DAMMIT.

"Natsume-kun" should not be written as "Tomoharu" in subs.

Let's just say that I will be forwarding this complaint to the people I know at TV Tokyo so they can be aware of the opinions of the fans for this "quality" of subbing.

Checking some other episodes, its very strange, all the problems are directly connected to Kanade. Either people talking to her swapping her name around, or her talking to Tomo and swapping his name.

But everyone else is fine. How weird is that?

Also, while I can't specifically speak for the translation, the half of episode 13 I just watched was far clearer than the version I watched originally. And considering things weren't shaping up to be any better this time around, I'll take some name wonkiness in exchange for a clear, understandable translation.

However if they could fix the names that would be fantastic...

Quarkboy
10-01-2009, 06:29 AM
Hey, Quarkboy, if you happen to know the translator for Asura Cryin', do you think you could beat into his head the proper way to sub names? IE SUB WHAT THEY SAY DAMMIT.

"Natsume-kun" should not be written as "Tomoharu" in subs.

Let's just say that I will be forwarding this complaint to the people I know at TV Tokyo so they can be aware of the opinions of the fans for this "quality" of subbing.

Checking some other episodes, its very strange, all the problems are directly connected to Kanade. Either people talking to her swapping her name around, or her talking to Tomo and swapping his name.

But everyone else is fine. How weird is that?

Also, while I can't specifically speak for the translation, the half of episode 13 I just watched was far clearer than the version I watched originally. And considering things weren't shaping up to be any better this time around, I'll take some name wonkiness in exchange for a clear, understandable translation.

However if they could fix the names that would be fantastic...

To elaborate and maybe soften my previous statement: I haven't actually watched any of the subs, and I don't need to tell anyone anything to begin with...
TV Tokyo is quite actively monitoring the subs for Asura Cryin' and natsu 2... Whether I point them to opinions or not.

something
10-01-2009, 06:44 AM
To elaborate and maybe soften my previous statement: I haven't actually watched any of the subs, and I don't need to tell anyone anything to begin with...
TV Tokyo is quite actively monitoring the subs for Asura Cryin' and natsu 2... Whether I point them to opinions or not.
Here's my concern: does TV Tokyo know what good English subtitles look like anyway? My experience with foreign-made commercial subtitles is rather limited (Haruhi 2k9, Haruhi-chan, Nodame Cantabile R3, maybe some older stuff?) but none of them really grasped honorifics or name order either. Although none straight up swapped names when only one was spoken. So I guess I just wonder if they would really catch that there's a problem unless someone complains. I guess I can at least hope they recognize that the translator is really inconsistent - like Fence clarified later, it's something of a mess as to when they actually swap out first for last and when they don't. Getting it right some times is better than not getting it right at all but it's still something that really pulls me out of the experience for a moment every time I read it. The fear, of course, is that they say "be consistent" and he goes "okay, let's swap all instances of a single name being spoken!" at which point I just start slamming my head into a wall and hope a non-CR source decides to revise the subtitles each week. (Are you sure you don't have the bandwidth to sub all 13+ shows? :sd: )

Speaking of the changes to the player - Fence, I have a suspicious "Enable Fast Fullscreen" is code for "Turning (some variant of) the Old Player Back On". The fact that the horizontal black bars can be used to click out of the right click menu was an Old Player thing (and convenient). The larger interface was an Old Player thing as well, and I *think* the "Press Esc to Exit Fullscreen" message or whatever it was was Old Player only. On the other hand it definitely does not feel as smooth as the true Old Player still, windowed mode is significantly worse than either in New Player or Old Player, and Fast Fullscreen + Smoothing off is not very pretty.

Still, I checked out Asura 2 right after waking up and my eyes were all sorts of not in focus, so I'll need to take a better look at it when I get back from work. But I checked Saki as well and... well, major jerkiness. I need to restart Firefox and play with combinations of settings and do this all when I'm awake. Reserving judgment for now.

ChibiGoku
10-01-2009, 07:18 AM
I just found a number of titles on their site that looks to be part of the simulcasting:

1. Fairy Tail
2. Miracle Train
3. Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza -
4. Sora No Otoshimono
5. The Book of Bantorra

Information was taken from here (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime/simulcasts). I'm only familiar with a couple of these titles, so I'm unsure if all the listed above are "simulcasts" but I would assume so.

something
10-01-2009, 07:21 AM
I just found a number of titles on their site that looks to be part of the simulcasting:

1. Fairy Tail
2. Miracle Train
3. Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza -
4. Sora No Otoshimono
5. The Book of Bantorra

Information was taken from here (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime/simulcasts). I'm only familiar with a couple of these titles, so I'm unsure if all the listed above are "simulcasts" but I would assume so.

They have them sitting right in their main simulcasts list? :sd: It's like they wanted them to be found. I suppose I'll do the "waiting for confirmation" thing but holy crap Nogizaka would be great. None of the others mean much to me on name alone though. I'll look into them if they get confirmed.

ChibiGoku
10-01-2009, 07:27 AM
They have them sitting right in their main simulcasts list? :sd: It's like they wanted them to be found. I suppose I'll do the "waiting for confirmation" thing but holy crap Nogizaka would be great. None of the others mean much to me on name alone though. I'll look into them if they get confirmed.

To be quote honest, I found these by accident. But yes, you have to wonder what went through their minds when they set up this page. :sweat:

I don't think this is the first time either they did this, if my memory serves me right.

As for me, I'm potentially looking forward to Fairy Tail and Miracle Train. I'll give the other shows a shot, since I'm not too picky about what I watch.

Quarkboy
10-01-2009, 07:50 AM
To elaborate and maybe soften my previous statement: I haven't actually watched any of the subs, and I don't need to tell anyone anything to begin with...
TV Tokyo is quite actively monitoring the subs for Asura Cryin' and natsu 2... Whether I point them to opinions or not.
Here's my concern: does TV Tokyo know what good English subtitles look like anyway? My experience with foreign-made commercial subtitles is rather limited (Haruhi 2k9, Haruhi-chan, Nodame Cantabile R3, maybe some older stuff?) but none of them really grasped honorifics or name order either. Although none straight up swapped names when only one was spoken. So I guess I just wonder if they would really catch that there's a problem unless someone complains. I guess I can at least hope they recognize that the translator is really inconsistent - like Fence clarified later, it's something of a mess as to when they actually swap out first for last and when they don't. Getting it right some times is better than not getting it right at all but it's still something that really pulls me out of the experience for a moment every time I read it. The fear, of course, is that they say "be consistent" and he goes "okay, let's swap all instances of a single name being spoken!" at which point I just start slamming my head into a wall and hope a non-CR source decides to revise the subtitles each week. (Are you sure you don't have the bandwidth to sub all 13+ shows? :sd: )


I can't talk about internal decisions at CR in terms of who subs what other than to say I'm not translating it.
I can say, however, that Tegami Bachi and Secret 1 are both contracted directly from TV Tokyo. This implies I work fairly close with them on these translations, and the people there trust my judgement on what a good translation vs. a bad translation is. Plus the head of their international department is not too shabby a translator himself. He's still got some outdated opinions but it's all part of the familiarity process.

I cannot translate 13 shows a week. Not to the standards I have for myself. 6-8? Yes, I could do that. We'll see if I end up getting a Secret 5 or Secret 6... working on it...

tadakichi
10-01-2009, 08:01 AM
I just found a number of titles on their site that looks to be part of the simulcasting:

1. Fairy Tail
2. Miracle Train
3. Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza -
4. Sora No Otoshimono
5. The Book of Bantorra

Information was taken from here (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime/simulcasts). I'm only familiar with a couple of these titles, so I'm unsure if all the listed above are "simulcasts" but I would assume so.

Nice find! I'll definitely be checking out SoraOto and Bantorra.

EDIT: I wonder if they have the first season of Nogizaka Haruka as well?

Draneor
10-01-2009, 08:08 AM
Nogizaka is a must. I'll check out Sora No Otoshimono, but this image (http://www.akibanana.com/files/image/0AKIHABARA/0905/Tabi/sora.jpg) is scaring me a bit.

I remember CR had a few Marvelous titles listed before they officially announced they had them.

something
10-01-2009, 08:35 AM
I cannot translate 13 shows a week. Not to the standards I have for myself. 6-8? Yes, I could do that. We'll see if I end up getting a Secret 5 or Secret 6... working on it...
I know, wasn't serious, I doubt anyone could do that many. I just don't like playing translator roulette with CR shows. I suppose it's no different than watching any other show (fansub or DVD), though, in that you never know exactly what to expect until you watch, but it'd be nice if they had some consistency in naming conventions.

But even then, I have to be very very careful what I wish for because consistency sucks when the decision is to be consistent with a crappy policy...

bayoab
10-01-2009, 09:45 AM
I don't think this is the first time either they did this, if my memory serves me right.

It's not. We've found a list like this every single time they had new shows to announce. Usually it's been on the publisher page though.

Fudce
10-01-2009, 10:00 AM
Am happy to hear that Nogizaka will be amongst Crunchy's series this time, and Sora No Otoshimono was one of the titles I was going to try at least, now that it's on Crunchy there's even more incentive.

This is of course assuming that they're not one of the non-UK titles.

Quarkboy
10-01-2009, 10:05 AM
Am happy to hear that Nogizaka will be amongst Crunchy's series this time, and Sora No Otoshimono was one of the titles I was going to try at least, now that it's on Crunchy there's even more incentive.

This is of course assuming that they're not one of the non-UK titles.

You can get a pretty good idea of who is UK versus non-uk by looking at which company controls the international distribution in Japan. Basically the large and/or older the company, the less territories they'll license to.

Fudce
10-01-2009, 10:32 AM
Is Sora no Oto showing up for everybody else, because I've just noticed it's not there for me - if it's there for others, I think we've found our first restricted title.

Shiroi Hane
10-01-2009, 11:05 AM
Everyone who's had trouble with the player, there is a new option on the right-click menu "Fast Fullscreen", try enabling it and see what happens.

I seem to be getting CPU usage more in line with the old player, but since my machine was more than powerful enough so I'm not a good test.

something, Shiroi?
Excellent! It looks as bad as ever, but at least it plays smoothly. In fact, I tried increasing the quality a notch to "SD" and it is still playing, albeit maxing out my CPU to do so. Thanks for noticing and thinking of us, and to whoever got it fixed (Rob?).

Suwako Moriya
10-01-2009, 11:07 AM
1. Fairy Tail
2. Miracle Train
3. Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza -
4. Sora No Otoshimono
5. The Book of Bantorra

I'm not sure about the other ones, but I'm definitely interested in trying out Haruka. Let's see here. The currently announced three, these five, and potentially Shin Koihime Musou. That would make for 9 of the 13 titles in question. Assuming I counted right.

something
10-01-2009, 11:45 AM
Excellent! It looks as bad as ever, but at least it plays smoothly. In fact, I tried increasing the quality a notch to "SD" and it is still playing, albeit maxing out my CPU to do so. Thanks for noticing and thinking of us, and to whoever got it fixed (Rob?).
If you can't go to at least 480p I'm not sure that's really "fixed", though. Could you play 480p before? Anything below that seems a rather unusably low quality to me.

Shiroi Hane
10-01-2009, 12:24 PM
Before it broke my PS3 could go up to 480P (but no further). My PC has never been good above "HQ" :(

Fencedude
10-01-2009, 01:59 PM
Not really a surprise considering what was posted earlier.

Sora no Otoshimono (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Sora_No_Otoshimono)

Book of Bantorra (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/The_Book_of_Bantorra)

Thats two more for me.

Suwako Moriya
10-01-2009, 01:59 PM
It looks like both Sora No Otoshimono and The Book of Bantorra are officially announced.

(Wow, I was beaten by seconds and I even rushed the post)

In any case, the honest truth is neither series screams "You must watch it" to me.

bci110
10-01-2009, 02:05 PM
Soraoto seems like an interesting title from what I read so I'll check it out.

Fudce
10-01-2009, 02:07 PM
And as suspected from the five mentioned, Sora no Otoshimono isn't available to me. Looks like I'll be trying that one through other methods.

Mitsuki
10-01-2009, 03:24 PM
Not sure about either of these. I guess it couldn't hurt to try one episode.

EmperorBrandon
10-01-2009, 03:38 PM
If they are simulcasting Nogizaka Haruka, I'll think about getting a subscription. It would be an appropriate time for me to try it out. I have doubts I'll be able to play the higher quality videos, and watching SD doesn't bother me. I would like to not have to wait a week on a favorite title, though. Also, ads seem to have gotten much more annoying, being put in more (and stranger) places as well as some can't be muted.

Fencedude
10-01-2009, 03:42 PM
If they are simulcasting Nogizaka Haruka, I'll think about getting a subscription. It would be an appropriate time for me to try it out. I have doubts I'll be able to play the higher quality videos, and watching SD doesn't bother me. I would like to not have to wait a week on a favorite title, though. Also, ads seem to have gotten much more annoying, being put in more (and stranger) places as well as some can't be muted.

Its seriously worth it. Its just $60 for a year, which is an absolute steal, considering.

EmperorBrandon
10-01-2009, 04:00 PM
Its seriously worth it. Its just $60 for a year, which is an absolute steal, considering.

I'm thinking of just doing the $20 for three months right now, since I'm not sure if I want to drop $60 even though that is the better value. If Nogizaka Haruka gets simulcast (which would be my condition for trying it out in the first place), I should cover the whole duration of that with the former anyway.

einhorn303
10-01-2009, 04:48 PM
Another "not sure about, will have to watch 1st episode" for me. Heaven's Lost Property sounds ridiculously generic of course, but I do like the character designs.

I thought Quarkboy's Secret #1 might have been Sora No Otoshimono from the hint, hmmm.

Suwako Moriya
10-01-2009, 08:43 PM
I just don't like playing translator roulette with CR shows.

Ah, but it's exciting to find out whether or not a series you love become a victim of someone addicted to name swapping and stuff like that.:sweat: I'm a very bad liar.

In some ways, it's kind of sad since for those who prefer to watch legit, Crunchyroll might be their only option in some cases. So we have to hope two things.

That if the show in question gets a less than desirable translation that the person can still adjust to it. Such as being able to realize when names are being swapped and such.

geotrio
10-02-2009, 01:55 AM
I'm looking foward to Sora No Otoshimono but it seems to be somewhat fan service oriented so I hope it doesn't get the censor treatment like with Charger Girl.

bayoab
10-02-2009, 04:08 AM
Currently appearing on the publisher page (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/IndexByPublisher) under YTV (http://www.crunchyroll.com/publisher/YTV): Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Nogizaka_Haruka_no_Himitsu)

tadakichi
10-02-2009, 09:37 AM
Currently appearing on the publisher page (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/IndexByPublisher) under YTV (http://www.crunchyroll.com/publisher/YTV): Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Nogizaka_Haruka_no_Himitsu)

I was wondering who they had licensed it through. I guess this is another new business relationship for Crunchyroll. They already added Kadokawa Pictures when they licensed Sora no Otoshimono.

No hint of today's other announcement, though.

bluesilo
10-02-2009, 02:01 PM
New announcement is not up quite yet. I keep refreshing lol.

EDIT::::

Confirmed Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza - and Miracle Train

Fudce
10-02-2009, 02:06 PM
Fantastic to get confirmation of Haruka Nogizaka's Secret 2, and also great to be confirmed that I will get to watch it (unlike another series).

Miracle Train doesn't do anything for me, since I'm neither a trainspotter nor a bishiespotter.

EmperorBrandon
10-02-2009, 02:16 PM
Confirmed Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza

Good, I guess it's about time for me to get a Crunchyroll subscription, then. This has been one of my most anticipated things to watch for a while now. :)

einhorn303
10-02-2009, 02:17 PM
It's strange how the announcement doesn't mention anything about the 1st season of Haruka Nogizaka's Secret, even though they have seperate 1st and 2nd season pages. It would be rather awkward if they had only the 2nd season, but not the first.

Fudce
10-02-2009, 02:18 PM
It's strange how the announcement doesn't mention anything about the 1st season of Haruka Nogizaka's Secret, even though they have seperate 1st and 2nd season pages. It would be rather awkward if they had only the 2nd season, but not the first.

They have pages for most anime series, but don't necessarily have videos for all series.

And it wouldn't be much different to the situation with Hayate Season 2

Fencedude
10-02-2009, 02:21 PM
Fantastic to get confirmation of Haruka Nogizaka's Secret 2, and also great to be confirmed that I will get to watch it (unlike another series).

Miracle Train doesn't do anything for me, since I'm neither a trainspotter nor a bishiespotter.

Both are expected, but having Haruka is, of course, fantastic. Miracle Train is...lol

einhorn303
10-02-2009, 02:26 PM
It's strange how the announcement doesn't mention anything about the 1st season of Haruka Nogizaka's Secret, even though they have seperate 1st and 2nd season pages. It would be rather awkward if they had only the 2nd season, but not the first.

They have pages for most anime series, but don't necessarily have videos for all series.

And it wouldn't be much different to the situation with Hayate Season 2

True, but when Hayate S2 began simulcasting, the 1st season was already licensed for R1 DVD, so a legal option existed for people who wanted to watch it.

I think another possibly important detail is that the page for the 1st season of Haruka Nogizaka's Secret is linked to from the YTV publisher page. Whereas other shows that might have been published/broadcast by YTV have pages, but aren't linked to in that way.

Suwako Moriya
10-02-2009, 02:48 PM
Confirmed Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza - and Miracle Train

I'm definitely interested in the former, but not so much the latter.

EmperorBrandon
10-02-2009, 02:49 PM
I'd think the publisher is something we should put more weight into than the animation studio, and Aniplex have proven themselves more protective than most in the past (the new FMA and Kannagi have appeared online, but they'd already sown up distribution R1-side for those at that point).

Well, doesn't seem Aniplex is reluctant about Crunchyroll here (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/press-release/2009-10-02/all-aboard-for-bishonen-crunchyroll-and-aniplex-announce-miracle-train-welcome-to-the-oedo-line). Maybe we'll see more of their titles simulcast in the future.

Fencedude
10-02-2009, 03:00 PM
I'd think the publisher is something we should put more weight into than the animation studio, and Aniplex have proven themselves more protective than most in the past (the new FMA and Kannagi have appeared online, but they'd already sown up distribution R1-side for those at that point).

Well, doesn't seem Aniplex is reluctant about Crunchyroll here (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/press-release/2009-10-02/all-aboard-for-bishonen-crunchyroll-and-aniplex-announce-miracle-train-welcome-to-the-oedo-line). Maybe we'll see more of their titles simulcast in the future.

(pst..fix your link)

EmperorBrandon
10-02-2009, 03:15 PM
(pst..fix your link)

Dangit all, I thought I did... Psst... you too, since you quoted me. :)

tadakichi
10-02-2009, 07:58 PM
New announcement is not up quite yet. I keep refreshing lol.

EDIT::::

Confirmed Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza - and Miracle Train

Aw, I was hoping for something that hadn't already leaked. No more announcements until Monday, which effectively eliminates a lot of possibilities, most intriguingly Shin Koihime Musou. Monday's announcements will come 16 hours after it airs in Japan, so I'm guessing it's not one of the remaining shows. There are several other shows from MMV (the Japanese licensor) on CR, including the first season, but none of them were simulcasted. Perhaps MMV just doesn't want to do simulcasts?

As things currently stand, there are six simulcasts yet to be revealed, of which one should be Fairy Tail. My guesses for the remaining five:


Kimi ni Todoke
Sasameki Koto
Tamagotchi
Kaidan Restaurant
Trapeze

Mitsuki
10-02-2009, 08:44 PM
I wonder about Koihime Musou especially since they haven't put anymore episodes of the first season up. (They have only four.)

I'd love for them to get Kimi ni Todoke or Sasameki Koto.

What's Trapeze?

tadakichi
10-02-2009, 08:48 PM
What's Trapeze?

The new Noitamina show, aka Kuuchuu Buranko.

bayoab
10-02-2009, 11:47 PM
Aw, I was hoping for something that hadn't already leaked. No more announcements until Monday, which effectively eliminates a lot of possibilities, most intriguingly Shin Koihime Musou. Monday's announcements will come 16 hours after it airs in Japan, so I'm guessing it's not one of the remaining shows.
Sora no Otoshimono is actually going up on CR about 24 hours after it is first aired in Japan and is still counted as a "simulcast" so it's still possible. Though I suppose that since Sora no Otoshimono was announced before it aired, that would actually still eliminate it.

EmperorBrandon
10-04-2009, 02:59 PM
Anyone here who is a subscriber to Crunchyroll know how the renewal process works? Do they renew you automatically after your subscription runs out and charge your card, or does it just expire? In the former case, is it quick and easy to cancel beforehand?

Draneor
10-04-2009, 03:01 PM
Do they renew you automatically after your subscription runs out and charge your card[...]

Yes. You actually purchase a recurring subscription (similar to a MMORPG).

einhorn303
10-04-2009, 03:02 PM
Anyone here who is a subscriber to Crunchyroll know how the renewal process works? Do they renew you automatically after your subscription runs out and charge your card, or does it just expire? In the former case, is it quick and easy to cancel beforehand?

In my experience, they do renew it automatically at the end of the month. So if you want to cancel it, you'll have to do it manually the few days before it would expire/renew. It is, however, easy to cancel.

EmperorBrandon
10-04-2009, 03:12 PM
In my experience, they do renew it automatically at the end of the month. So if you want to cancel it, you'll have to do it manually the few days before it would expire/renew. It has, however, easy to cancel.

Ok, I was mostly worried about whether it would be a pain to cancel. Other family members had problems with this before (apparently X-box Live).

Draneor
10-04-2009, 03:20 PM
Ok, I was mostly worried about whether it would be a pain to cancel. Other family members had problems with this before (apparently X-box Live).

It's easy, if you pay via PayPal. You just just click "cancel" under "Recurring Payments details".

calimike
10-05-2009, 01:55 PM
2 anime series are...??? 5 minutes to go...

LelouchLamperouge
10-05-2009, 01:58 PM
Sasameki Koto and Fairy Tail are the next 2 series on the list.

calimike
10-05-2009, 02:05 PM
Sasameki Koto and Fairy Tail are the next 2 series on the list.

Thanks!!!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Fairy_Tail

http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Sasameki_Koto

Quarkboy
10-05-2009, 02:08 PM
"I thought they had wings" = fairies with tails?

:)

The Great Bear
10-05-2009, 02:10 PM
"I thought they had wings" = fairies with tails?

:)

Stars Aya Hirano and looks silly. I might watch it, if I can find the time :P

Suwako Moriya
10-05-2009, 02:11 PM
Sasameki Koto and Fairy Tail are the next 2 series on the list.

Fairy Tail: I'd have to think about it. Right now, I'm not sure.

Sasaemki Koto: This one I'm definitely looking forward too.

Fudce
10-05-2009, 02:13 PM
Sasameki Koto and Fairy Tail are the next 2 series on the list.

Hmm, Sasameki Koto was one I had my eye on this season, think I'll be watching that.

Sasameki Koto is available in the Americas and Oceania.
Balls.


I'll still be checking it out albeit through other means, since I'm still technically paying for it. (My subscription price doesn't go down because of the region lockouts I have imposed on me)

Quarkboy
10-05-2009, 02:14 PM
"I thought they had wings" = fairies with tails?

:)

Stars Aya Hirano and looks silly. I might watch it, if I can find the time :P

It did strike me as "what if haruhi willed herself the star of the next big shounen blockbuster anime."

Yeah, this one is as hard-core shounen action show as you can get. From the creator of rave master and takes inspiration from naruto and one piece and DBZ and flame of recca and all the classic shounen shows. If tegami-bachi is intelligent mature shounen fantasy, Fairy Tail is a guilty pleasure that's WAAAY over 9000.

Classical
10-05-2009, 02:16 PM
Sasameki Koto and Fairy Tail are the next 2 series on the list.

I will definitely check out at least one episode of Fairy Tail, but I don't know about Sasameki Koto. The power of yuri is no longer strong within me. I must be a heretic.

Suwako Moriya
10-05-2009, 02:18 PM
*Reads the announcement* I might have to forget about Fairy Tail. It looks like it requires being a paying member.

Edit: Or I could just watch the actual live airing instead. That's if I even care enough to be on when it actually airs.

EmperorBrandon
10-05-2009, 02:24 PM
It did strike me as "what if haruhi willed herself the star of the next big shounen blockbuster anime."

If it's the next big shounen blockbuster anime, I wonder why FUNimation wasn't all over trying to get the simulcast rights to it?

*Reads the announcement* I might have to forget about Fairy Tail. It looks like it requires being a paying member.

I'm about to become a subscriber, so that ends up not being a hurdle to me. I don't know if I'm in for trying shounen action stuff, though. May check out a few episodes out of curiosity.

bayoab
10-05-2009, 02:27 PM
It did strike me as "what if haruhi willed herself the star of the next big shounen blockbuster anime."

If it's the next big shounen blockbuster anime, I wonder why FUNimation wasn't all over trying to get the simulcast rights to it?
Considering the wording of that press release (worldwide, 30 days, and members only), it's completely possible that FUNi is working on the DVD rights now and letting CR pay out the rear to hype the series for them.

Otherwise not available due to licensing restrictions, FAIRY TAIL is specially presented on Crunchyroll for Anime Members, with each episode available one hour after Japanese broadcast and accessible 30 days thereafter.

tadakichi
10-05-2009, 02:30 PM
Sasameki Koto and Fairy Tail are the next 2 series on the list.

Watched the Fairy Tail PV and wasn't all that impressed. Sasameki Koto could be good though.

What's weird is that Fairy Tail doesn't start in Japan for almost a week. That's longer than the lead time for any of the other announcements.

We can probably rule out Kobato, Kimi ni Todoke, and 11eyes as they start tomorrow in Japan. If so, none of the remaining possibilities really excite me, unless they pull a major coup and announce Darker than Black 2.

EDIT: Episodes of Fairy Tail expire 30 days after broadcast, huh? I guess that's one incentive to stay caught up on a series. Being members-only is also a surprise; I know the original Naruto episodes have that restriction, but do any other CR shows have it?

Quarkboy
10-05-2009, 02:44 PM
It did strike me as "what if haruhi willed herself the star of the next big shounen blockbuster anime."

If it's the next big shounen blockbuster anime, I wonder why FUNimation wasn't all over trying to get the simulcast rights to it?

*Reads the announcement* I might have to forget about Fairy Tail. It looks like it requires being a paying member.

I'm about to become a subscriber, so that ends up not being a hurdle to me. I don't know if I'm in for trying shounen action stuff, though. May check out a few episodes out of curiosity.

Trust me, it's the next shounen blockbuster. Or at the very least a shounen blockbuster wannabe.

Would funi want this show? Hell yeah. But remember, TV Tokyo and CR have a close partnership... Since TV Tokyo helped fund the show, they probably have a lot of say when it comes to who streams it, so Funi might have been out-influenced.
If Funi trying to get the rights for this show on DVD/blu-ray? Almost certainly.

malazar
10-05-2009, 03:45 PM
Fairy Tail will be a definite watch for me, although I will have to avoid my normal habit of sometimes falling behind on shows with the 30 day limit. That shouldn't be a problem for one show.

HitokiriShadow
10-05-2009, 04:25 PM
http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Fairy_Tail

http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Sasameki_Koto

Yay for Sasameki Koto. It's one of series I've been looking forward to this fall and I'm pretty sure I'm going to like it quite a bit.

I'm probably not even going to try Fairy Tail.

Mitsuki
10-05-2009, 04:27 PM
Interesting about the thirty-day limit, but I'm not sure I'm interested enough to check out this show. Sasameki Koto is a given, though.

Moe Moe Taiga
10-05-2009, 07:46 PM
Sasameki Koto and Fairy Tail are the next 2 series on the list.

And with this announcement I'm 6/3. I think it's time for an account now. I'll go for the paid version. But I'm not sure if my hardware can handle it, I'd like to watch the HQ 720p episodes. Do you guys think my hardware can handle it with out any stuttering? Here's my specs that are relevant:

Connection Speed: 1.5 Mbps (Get about 175 Kbs download speed)
CPU: E5200 Dual-Core 2.5 GHz
RAM: 4 GB DDR2 667
Video Card: Radeon HD 4650 512MB
and this probably doesn't matter, but: Monitor - Acer H213H 21.5" 5ms 1080p

Fencedude
10-05-2009, 07:53 PM
Sasameki Koto and Fairy Tail are the next 2 series on the list.

And with this announcement I'm 6/3. I think it's time for an account now. I'll go for the paid version. But I'm not sure if my hardware can handle it, I'd like to watch the HQ 720p episodes. Do you guys think my hardware can handle it with out any stuttering? Here's my specs that are relevant:

Connection Speed: 1.5 Mbps (Get about 175 Kbs download speed)
CPU: E5200 Dual-Core 2.5 GHz
RAM: 4 GB DDR2 667
Video Card: Radeon HD 4650 512MB
and this probably doesn't matter, but: Monitor - Acer H213H 21.5" 5ms 1080p

That should be fine. I've confirmed that 720p (with Fast Fullscreen Enabled) will run on a Dual Core Celeron E1400, which is waaaaay less powerful than your machine.

My home computer is a Dual Core E8400 and is complete overkill. You should be fine.

Connection speed can be iffy, but it seems to just depend. It was working fine for me earlier today, but I was just trying again to rewatch NHnH and it was buffering to hell and back, but I'm betting this is "peak" period for CR, considering its late afternoon to evening across the continental US.

Moe Moe Taiga
10-05-2009, 07:57 PM
Connection Speed: 1.5 Mbps (Get about 175 Kbs download speed)
CPU: E5200 Dual-Core 2.5 GHz
RAM: 4 GB DDR2 667
Video Card: Radeon HD 4650 512MB
and this probably doesn't matter, but: Monitor - Acer H213H 21.5" 5ms 1080p

That should be fine. I've confirmed that 720p (with Fast Fullscreen Enabled) will run on a Dual Core Celeron E1400, which is waaaaay less powerful than your machine.

My home computer is a Dual Core E8400 and is complete overkill. You should be fine.

Connection speed can be iffy, but it seems to just depend. It was working fine for me earlier today, but I was just trying again to rewatch NHnH and it was buffering to hell and back, but I'm betting this is "peak" period for CR, considering its late afternoon to evening across the continental US.

Thanks Fence :). I was pretty sure I would be ok, but I just wanted to make sure.

Classical
10-06-2009, 02:05 PM
It seems that CR is going to stream 11Eyes (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/11eyes). This will be another series that I'll give a shot.

Fencedude
10-06-2009, 02:06 PM
It seems that CR is going to stream 11Eyes (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/11eyes). This will be another series that I'll give a shot.

Ah, fantastic.

tadakichi
10-06-2009, 02:11 PM
It seems that CR is going to stream 11Eyes (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/11eyes). Will give this series a shot.

Guess I was wrong about it being eliminated as a possibility. I figured that if they were going to simulcast an MMV series, it would be Shin Koihime Musou. Hopefully they can get the episode up soon since it's already aired in Japan. Wonder why they waited so long to announce it?

Oh, and this is definitely a show that I'm interested in.

Fencedude
10-06-2009, 02:16 PM
It seems that CR is going to stream 11Eyes (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/11eyes). Will give this series a shot.

Guess I was wrong about it being eliminated as a possibility. I figured that if they were going to simulcast an MMV series, it would be Shin Koihime Musou. Hopefully they can get the episode up soon since it's already aired in Japan. Wonder why they waited so long to announce it?

Oh, and this is definitely a show that I'm interested in.

If its not going to be a direct simulcast, it'd be nice if they'd let us know when its going to start.

Quarkboy
10-06-2009, 02:18 PM
It seems that CR is going to stream 11Eyes (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/11eyes). Will give this series a shot.

Guess I was wrong about it being eliminated as a possibility. I figured that if they were going to simulcast an MMV series, it would be Shin Koihime Musou. Hopefully they can get the episode up soon since it's already aired in Japan. Wonder why they waited so long to announce it?

Oh, and this is definitely a show that I'm interested in.

If its not going to be a direct simulcast, it'd be nice if they'd let us know when its going to start.

I'm sure the answer to that is "as soon as they can get it finished".

In the past none of the MMV shows were simulcasts, so perhaps these have some "kinks" to work out. (see what I did there? Ero-games? Kinks?! Harhar!)

Fencedude
10-06-2009, 02:20 PM
I'm sure the answer to that is "as soon as they can get it finished".

In the past none of the MMV shows were simulcasts, so perhaps these have some "kinks" to work out. (see what I did there? Ero-games? Kinks?! Harhar!)

While I have you here, go smack the Nogizaka translator for me.

Quarkboy
10-06-2009, 02:22 PM
I'm sure the answer to that is "as soon as they can get it finished".

In the past none of the MMV shows were simulcasts, so perhaps these have some "kinks" to work out. (see what I did there? Ero-games? Kinks?! Harhar!)

While I have you here, go smack the Nogizaka translator for me.

Sorry, but I think they live in Hong Kong. I have no say in the matter (nor am I an impartial messenger).

Also, via animevice: "Each episode will air on Crunchyroll 24 hours after they air on TV in Japan. " for 11 eyes.

tadakichi
10-06-2009, 02:30 PM
Also, via animevice: "Each episode will air on Crunchyroll 24 hours after they air on TV in Japan. " for 11 eyes.

I think I can live with that. To me, the most important thing is that they be available on a fixed weekly schedule.

Suwako Moriya
10-06-2009, 03:46 PM
It seems that CR is going to stream 11Eyes (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/11eyes).

Ah, this would be one that I'm definitely interested in trying out. Hopefully it will be a respectable adaptation and not one of those cases where the anime staff hates the game.

malazar
10-06-2009, 04:03 PM
I'll definitely give 11Eyes a try since I am at least somewhat interested in it.

Mitsuki
10-06-2009, 04:24 PM
Awesome. Definitely giving 11Eyes a try. Still holding out hope for Kimi ni Todoke, though, considering Sasameki Koto airs after 11Eyes but was announced first.

Draneor
10-06-2009, 04:28 PM
Well, as long as 11Eyes isn't edited to death, I might as well give it a whirl.

Suwako Moriya
10-06-2009, 04:34 PM
Still holding out hope for Kimi ni Todoke, though, considering Sasameki Koto airs after 11Eyes but was announced first.

Well given that Kimi ni Todoke aired today and there has yet to be an announcement for it, I'm probably not going to hold my breath.

Shiroi Hane
10-06-2009, 08:56 PM
I think it's time for an account now. I'll go for the paid version. But I'm not sure if my hardware can handle it, I'd like to watch the HQ 720p episodes. Do you guys think my hardware can handle it with out any stuttering?
When they first started HD streaming there was a test video anyone could watch
Aha, found it: http://www.crunchyroll.com/hd_demo
I believe they also still do a week free trial (as long as you remember to cancel).

EmperorBrandon
10-07-2009, 01:25 AM
I believe they also still do a week free trial (as long as you remember to cancel).

It's two weeks actually, and they're still doing, since I'm on it right now (though I do plan to continue to paid membership after it's done)

something
10-07-2009, 09:02 AM
It seems that CR is going to stream 11Eyes (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/11eyes). This will be another series that I'll give a shot.
It's great that they keep adding shows I want to see, although increasingly frequent translation issues and the significant inferiority of their New Player (even after some fixes) have dampened my enthusiasm significantly. I won't be able to watch any of these shows at the same level of performance (when I can get them to play at all) as with the Old Player until I buy a new computer. That means the first cour of Fall is pretty much a wash.

So I'm finding it hard to get as excited about these as I'd like to. Sigh.

Draneor
10-07-2009, 09:22 AM
although increasingly frequent translation issues and the significant inferiority of their New Player (even after some fixes) have dampened my enthusiasm significantly.

While I can't speak about the player issues (since I don't have them), I agree that many CruncyRoll translations leave much to be desired. It's not just the obvious stylistic issues, like the names or obvious typos, though. Then again, most of the "competition" leaves much to be desired. So it's a wash for me. Sure, I'd rather have a R1 industry level translation, but that's not exactly an option for simultaneous streaming, apart from two shows.

From what I heard from a freelance translator, CR pays substantially lower than the standard rate for anime translation (and I also heard, from someone else, they prefer to hire people that can do everything--not just translate). Combine that with the obvious tight deadlines, it's not exactly a formula for attracting top talent, unless they're doing it more as a hobby than a living. Basically, we get what we pay for.

Still, CR releases anime at set times each week. Their stuff is, at least, watchable. I have the ability to watch shows I'd never thought I could watch (like Happiness!).

something
10-07-2009, 09:45 AM
While I can't speak about the player issues (since I don't have them), I agree that many CruncyRoll translations leave much to be desired. It's not just the obvious stylistic issues, like the names or obvious typos, though. Then again, most of the "competition" leaves much to be desired. So it's a wash for me. Sure, I'd rather have a R1 industry level translation, but that's not exactly an option for simultaneous streaming, apart from two shows.
I'll still take CR over R1, though it varies from show to show. It's mostly the stylistic (and player, of course) issues for me because apart from some annoying screwups in Aoi Hana, none of the shows I've personally watched have done anything that obscured meaning in the translation. And in terms of English grammar and fluidity, they've been fine. So I would like to think of Aoi Hana an an exception... though as I watch a much larger number of shows this season - it was only four last time - issues may become more apparent.

Really, it's all a matter of luck regarding who gets the translation, I guess. All we can do is keep complaining, reasonably, about the translations in the Report Problem/Bug Report link. And make sure we note that we are paying customers, and that staying paying customers will be influenced by how they choose to address these concerns.

Still, if they can sort these issues out then I'll easily be able to say that I get much more value from my $60 CR subscription than what I spend on R1 DVDs. I've really started moving in two completely opposite directions... I now value cheap streaming and expensive imports over middle of the road R1s. Since I don't want to be left with just the expensive imports, I really want to see CR do a good job holding up the opposite end.

Draneor
10-07-2009, 09:52 AM
Since I don't want to be left with just the expensive imports, I really want to see CR do a good job holding up the opposite end.

I would think the quality would go up as their user base expands. But it may also be that CR is just trying to do too much, too soon.

something
10-07-2009, 10:03 AM
I would think the quality would go up as their user base expands. But it may also be that CR is just trying to do too much, too soon.
It's definitely... ambitious. They really are on track to deliver approximately half of the currently airing shows, which is fairly remarkable and a drastic increase over what they'd done before. It speaks to all sorts of interesting and important shifts on both sides of the Pacific and it's not like I can't understand how they'd be stretched on quality. I just don't want them to stretch to the point where they break - I'd rather they just simulcast less shows and handle them right. And I'm hoping they can snap back into shape sooner rather than later. Like, before this cour ends.

Quarkboy
10-07-2009, 11:22 AM
I would think the quality would go up as their user base expands. But it may also be that CR is just trying to do too much, too soon.
It's definitely... ambitious. They really are on track to deliver approximately half of the currently airing shows, which is fairly remarkable and a drastic increase over what they'd done before. It speaks to all sorts of interesting and important shifts on both sides of the Pacific and it's not like I can't understand how they'd be stretched on quality. I just don't want them to stretch to the point where they break - I'd rather they just simulcast less shows and handle them right. And I'm hoping they can snap back into shape sooner rather than later. Like, before this cour ends.

Well, personally I'm hoping they don't snap... in general.

Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?

(I know, of course, but I'm not translating either of them so no clues in my sig :) )

Fencedude
10-07-2009, 11:25 AM
Well, personally I'm hoping they don't snap... in general.

Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?

(I know, of course, but I'm not translating either of them so no clues in my sig :) )

I'm more interested in what the issue with Sasameki Koto and 11eyes is, are they going up today or not?

Quarkboy
10-07-2009, 11:33 AM
Well, personally I'm hoping they don't snap... in general.

Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?

(I know, of course, but I'm not translating either of them so no clues in my sig :) )

I'm more interested in what the issue with Sasameki Koto and 11eyes is, are they going up today or not?

Probably not, no. expect 1-2 days delay for ep 1 of those. Should be more "simul"-ish next week.
I'd place blame where blame is due but I don't think it'd be appropriate for me to comment.

something
10-07-2009, 12:10 PM
Probably not, no. expect 1-2 days delay for ep 1 of those. Should be more "simul"-ish next week.
I'd place blame where blame is due but I don't think it'd be appropriate for me to comment.
As long as they get eps 2+ up on time that's what really matters. Airing a couple days after ep 1 goes up in Japan is fine. I'm behind on stuff anyway what with being away from my computer for two days and all.

LKK
10-07-2009, 12:29 PM
Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?
I'm not really going to guess. But I will say that if it's Darker Than Black 2, then CR will likely get a subscription from me.

Nagato-san
10-07-2009, 12:29 PM
Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?

(I know, of course, but I'm not translating either of them so no clues in my sig :) )

I found the new Seires. Not sure if it would be right to leaK it though. It's clearly viable in the siMulcast section.

Needless to say, I'm happy about it.

Fencedude
10-07-2009, 12:33 PM
Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?

(I know, of course, but I'm not translating either of them so no clues in my sig :) )

I found the new Seires. Not sure if it would be right to leaK it though. It's clearly viable in the siMulcast section.

Needless to say, I'm happy about it.

Uhh...? Those initials don't match any currently airing series.

tadakichi
10-07-2009, 12:36 PM
Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?

Tamagotchi and Kuuchuu Buranko.

There was a third announcement originally scheduled for 10/9, but it's now 'TDB' (to determined be?). I wonder what happened there.

bayoab
10-07-2009, 12:37 PM
Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?

(I know, of course, but I'm not translating either of them so no clues in my sig :) )

I found the new Seires. Not sure if it would be right to leaK it though. It's clearly viable in the siMulcast section.

Needless to say, I'm happy about it.

Uhh...? Those initials don't match any currently airing series.

They do, and there is a new series on the simulcast page.

Suwako Moriya
10-07-2009, 12:38 PM
I found the new Seires. Not sure if it would be right to leaK it though. It's clearly viable in the siMulcast section.
Uhh...? Those initials don't match any currently airing series.

Rinrin is sad that you don't realize what those initials stand for. Rinrin is going to tell Aisha.

Clearly I'm being vague here since Rinrin must be from Sister Princess and Aisha must be from Romancing Saga. The two can't possibly be from a currently airing anime that I'm watching.

tadakichi
10-07-2009, 12:38 PM
Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?

(I know, of course, but I'm not translating either of them so no clues in my sig :) )

I found the new Seires. Not sure if it would be right to leaK it though. It's clearly viable in the siMulcast section.

Needless to say, I'm happy about it.

Shin Koihime Musou. I'll be damned.

Fencedude
10-07-2009, 12:38 PM
They do, and there is a new series on the simulcast page.

Blargh, I'm blind.

Fudce
10-07-2009, 12:46 PM
I wonder if this means they'll actually get around to releasing the rest of the first series?

TheGreenMan
10-07-2009, 12:48 PM
Meanwhile, we've got 2 more license announcements, one in a few hours and one tomorrow. All the "leaked" titles are covered so any guesses?

(I know, of course, but I'm not translating either of them so no clues in my sig :) )

I found the new Seires. Not sure if it would be right to leaK it though. It's clearly viable in the siMulcast section.

Needless to say, I'm happy about it.

Shin Koihime Musou. I'll be damned.

Another show for them to censor. That is, if there's anymore armpit licking and fingering.

Suwako Moriya
10-07-2009, 12:53 PM
I wonder if this means they'll actually get around to releasing the rest of the first series?

That, and hopefully remembering that previews exist.

Nagato-san
10-07-2009, 12:58 PM
I wonder if this means they'll actually get around to releasing the rest of the first series?

I hope so. I never got to finish the first series, and I was hoping that they would have had it up before Shin Koihime Musou aired. :\

einhorn303
10-07-2009, 01:42 PM
I would think the quality would go up as their user base expands. But it may also be that CR is just trying to do too much, too soon.
It's definitely... ambitious. They really are on track to deliver approximately half of the currently airing shows, which is fairly remarkable and a drastic increase over what they'd done before. It speaks to all sorts of interesting and important shifts on both sides of the Pacific and it's not like I can't understand how they'd be stretched on quality. I just don't want them to stretch to the point where they break - I'd rather they just simulcast less shows and handle them right. And I'm hoping they can snap back into shape sooner rather than later. Like, before this cour ends.

Another possible pitfall for CR is emphasizing quantity over quality with their licensing strategy. Sure, you can have 50% of currently airing shows, but if you hypothetically end up having all the shows that suck, and lacking all the shows that don't suck...that's not something to be proud of.

I wonder if this means they'll actually get around to releasing the rest of the first series?

Hopefully. With this and Haruka's Secret, I'm a bit annoyed at CR's "lol watch the fansubs" model.

Not to sound too negative...this is a title I'm interested in and am quite glad that they have. I'm developing an inordinate love of shows which recast historical/mythic figures as cute girls (ala Strike Witches, Touhou).

Draneor
10-07-2009, 01:55 PM
Another possible pitfall for CR is emphasizing quantity over quality with their licensing strategy. Sure, you can have 50% of currently airing shows, but if you hypothetically end up having all the shows that suck, and lacking all the shows that don't suck...that's not something to be proud of.

By casting a wide net, CR draws a wider audience. What many seem to fail to realize is that the definition of "suck" varies from person to person. For the fall season, I think it is fair to say that CR has at least one show for just about everyone.

Hopefully. With this and Haruka's Secret, I'm a bit annoyed at CR's "lol watch the fansubs" model.

This "model" exists only in your head.

Suwako Moriya
10-07-2009, 02:43 PM
I hope so. I never got to finish the first series, and I was hoping that they would have had it up before Shin Koihime Musou aired. :\

Speaking of which, the fact they announced that series after it's first episode aired is going to make it even harder to guess what the last show is. Since we can't use "It already aired episode 1" as a way of eliminating the show.

Fencedude
10-07-2009, 02:47 PM
Sasameki Koto is up, looks like Wed at 3pm for the new episodes.

Quarkboy
10-07-2009, 03:01 PM
Sasameki Koto is up, looks like Wed at 3pm for the new episodes.

Ugh, I watched like 5 minutes of it... I really should just turn the subs off if I watch something on CR now.

It's not like they're _wrong_ wrong, it's just every other line there's a miss-voicing, or some odd sounding word, or something clearly with unintentional connotations.

"beloved one" for "suki na hito"? "insolent" for "shitsurei"? What are we, in ancient China?

Fencedude
10-07-2009, 03:17 PM
Sasameki Koto is up, looks like Wed at 3pm for the new episodes.

Ugh, I watched like 5 minutes of it... I really should just turn the subs off if I watch something on CR now.

It's not like they're _wrong_ wrong, it's just every other line there's a miss-voicing, or some odd sounding word, or something clearly with unintentional connotations.

"beloved one" for "suki na hito"? "insolent" for "shitsurei"? What are we, in ancient China?

Aren't there people you can raise this issue with?

Quarkboy
10-07-2009, 03:23 PM
Sasameki Koto is up, looks like Wed at 3pm for the new episodes.

Ugh, I watched like 5 minutes of it... I really should just turn the subs off if I watch something on CR now.

It's not like they're _wrong_ wrong, it's just every other line there's a miss-voicing, or some odd sounding word, or something clearly with unintentional connotations.

"beloved one" for "suki na hito"? "insolent" for "shitsurei"? What are we, in ancient China?

Aren't there people you can raise this issue with?

Sure, but it kind of comes off as me trying to get more work. I'm not exactly impartial here. "Dude, fire those guys, they suck. P.S. hire me instead."
Nor are they unaware of the quality of the subs. Only the reactions of the fans themselves will they listen to. Actually, not even the fans, just the subscribers.... Subscriber feedback is key.

TheGreenMan
10-07-2009, 03:37 PM
Sasameki Koto is up, looks like Wed at 3pm for the new episodes.

Goddamnit CR, you guys just had to put it up after my lunch hour?

Fencedude
10-07-2009, 03:38 PM
Sure, but it kind of comes off as me trying to get more work. I'm not exactly impartial here. "Dude, fire those guys, they suck. P.S. hire me instead."
Nor are they unaware of the quality of the subs. Only the reactions of the fans themselves will they listen to. Actually, not even the fans, just the subscribers.... Subscriber feedback is key.

You can count on that. I plan on "feeding back" whenever necessary.

I assume that using the CR forums is essentially pointless, and any feedback should be submitted via the bug-report forms?

Quarkboy
10-07-2009, 03:40 PM
Sure, but it kind of comes off as me trying to get more work. I'm not exactly impartial here. "Dude, fire those guys, they suck. P.S. hire me instead."
Nor are they unaware of the quality of the subs. Only the reactions of the fans themselves will they listen to. Actually, not even the fans, just the subscribers.... Subscriber feedback is key.

You can count on that. I plan on "feeding back" whenever necessary.

I assume that using the CR forums is essentially pointless, and any feedback should be submitted via the bug-report forms?

That's probably the best way, yes. The forums are too full of white noise.

Fencedude
10-07-2009, 03:42 PM
That's probably the best way, yes. The forums are too full of white noise.

Thats a nice euphemism.

something
10-07-2009, 04:26 PM
Another possible pitfall for CR is emphasizing quantity over quality with their licensing strategy. Sure, you can have 50% of currently airing shows, but if you hypothetically end up having all the shows that suck, and lacking all the shows that don't suck...that's not something to be proud of.
They have plenty of shows that don't suck (or that I'm interested in anyway, I won't know if they suck until I watch them), so that's not a big problem for me.

EmperorBrandon
10-07-2009, 04:38 PM
I did get to watching Koihime Musou a few months ago, so I might catch Shin Koihime too. Even though the first wasn't really one I was overly enthusiastic about, I did like it a little.

einhorn303
10-07-2009, 05:11 PM
Ah, good, now they have uploaded the rest of Koihime Musou Season 1. Thanks, CR. Though I can't help imagining the scene of:

(30 minutes after SKM's stream announcement)
Crunchyroll employee in California, reading replies: "Wait man, did you remember to upload the rest of that Three Kingdoms show?"
Other Crunchyroll employee, eating brownies: "Duuuuuude! I knew I forgot something."

I'm sure it was some complicated dance of Japanese permissions and licensing agreements, but still that image will stick in my head.

I was thinking of dropping my subscription for this Fall. But now I'm pretty sure I'll find at least one show I can really get into, which would justify by itself the subscription cost.

And hey, still two more announcements.

Suwako Moriya
10-07-2009, 05:19 PM
Another possible pitfall for CR is emphasizing quantity over quality with their licensing strategy. Sure, you can have 50% of currently airing shows, but if you hypothetically end up having all the shows that suck, and lacking all the shows that don't suck...that's not something to be proud of.They have plenty of shows that don't suck (or that I'm interested in anyway, I won't know if they suck until I watch them), so that's not a big problem for me.

In my case, I have at least five shows of definite interest. The rest range from no to maybe. The current list would be...

Asura Cryin 2
Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza -
Sasameki Koto
11Eyes,
Shin Koihime Musou

Granted that's less than a 1/3, but I figure that's still pretty decent. And who knows? Maybe I'll random try one of the shows in the no/maybe category and actually like it. Only time will tell.

In any case, as for this whole quantity vs quality thing. I've never understood why it has to be one or the other. That and I figure it this way. The more shows they have the better chance there will be one I actually care about.

something
10-07-2009, 05:34 PM
In my case, I have at least five shows of definite interest. The rest range from no to maybe. The current list would be...

Asura Cryin 2
Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza -
Sasameki Koto
11Eyes,
Shin Koihime Musou

For me, assuming everything I'm interested in is listed on the site already:
Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza
Shin Koihime Musou
Asura Cryin 2
NATSU NO ARASHI!
Sasameki Koto
11Eyes
Sora No Otoshimono
Fairy Tail
The Book of Bantorra
Tegami Bachi: Letter Bee

Sequels listed first, then the rest in order of how much i liked or anticipate liking them. 10 so far and they still have a number of announce, so things are looking (mostly) good.

Fencedude
10-07-2009, 05:47 PM
For me, assuming everything I'm interested in is listed on the site already:
Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu 2 - Purezza
Shin Koihime Musou
Asura Cryin 2
NATSU NO ARASHI!
Sasameki Koto
11Eyes
Sora No Otoshimono
Fairy Tail
The Book of Bantorra
Tegami Bachi: Letter Bee

Sequels listed first, then the rest in order of how much i liked or anticipate liking them. 10 so far and they still have a number of announce, so things are looking (mostly) good.

Same here, I'm going to give them all a shot, whether I end up following all to completion is another question. Only new show I'm not trying is Miracle Train, for obvious reasons.

Suwako Moriya
10-07-2009, 06:38 PM
Only new show I'm not trying is Miracle Train, for obvious reasons.

Clearly you don't have the training required to watch that. Then again, I probably don't either. I watched the first episode live and it didn't really click with me....

If anything the one show I likely won't be watching on CR is Fairy Tale due to the restrictions on it. Also, it's hard to say if I'll care enough to watch it when it airs. Although the commercial for it during Sasameki Koto wasn't too bad.

Draneor
10-07-2009, 08:15 PM
Only the reactions of the fans themselves will they listen to.

Generally speaking, fans are the absolutely last people you want judging a translation's quality, as I am sure you know.

Only new show I'm not trying is Miracle Train, for obvious reasons.

Be a man. I did it. :P

einhorn303
10-07-2009, 10:25 PM
Only the reactions of the fans themselves will they listen to.

Generally speaking, fans are the absolutely last people you want judging a translation's quality, as I am sure you know.

Well, I just started watching Koihime Musou on CR, and I think it's errors would bother anyone, not just fans. From episode 2:

1:57: "What's the matter, why you look so glum?"
3:28: "In this case, I must let my master know, you are here."
3:52: "Please seat down."
5:46: "But don't you think you are jumping to conclusion?"
6:36: "And she will not lose to likes of you."
9:38: "But breaking into bandit's hideout all alone is..."
10:00: "Listen, it takes lots of patients to be quiet while hiding in the container."
10:16: "Then why don't we just give it try here?"
11:20: "We don't know when the bandits will strike, so no chit chating."
12:39: "Drink as mush as you want!"
13:07: "So they use the shafts as hideout."
19:02: "Now thinking about it, going south was not the right idea!"
22:05: "They precede to apprehend the bandits by themselves." (should be past tense)
22:57: "You are being quiet hard on here."

It's not MangaGamer quality, but it's getting there. I hope they have someone different working on the 2nd season.

Draneor
10-08-2009, 06:06 AM
Well, I just started watching Koihime Musou on CR, and I think it's errors would bother anyone, not just fans.

You're pointing out typos and awkward phrasing--not mistranslations. CR has bad quality control, as indicated earlier in the thread. I don't think anyone hasn't noticed that. But is the translator for that show competent? How accurate is it? A translation can sound perfectly fine in English but be entirely wrong or misleading. Fans generally make poor judges of a translation's quality because they, largely, don't know Japanese (or know a little bit and insist on textbook translations).

Quarkboy
10-08-2009, 06:27 AM
Well, I just started watching Koihime Musou on CR, and I think it's errors would bother anyone, not just fans.

You're pointing out typos and awkward phrasing--not mistranslations. CR has bad quality control, as indicated earlier in the thread. I don't think anyone hasn't noticed that. But is the translator for that show competent? How accurate is it? A translation can sound perfectly fine in English but be entirely wrong or misleading. Fans generally make poor judges of a translation's quality because they, largely, don't know Japanese (or know a little bit and insist on textbook translations).

I won't comment on anything specific to this show: But 9 times out of ten, if a translator can't be bothered to make sure they use correct english, they aren't putting much care into making sure the meaning is very accurate either.

Your point about fans making poor judgement on translation is quite accurate though.

halo
10-08-2009, 07:58 AM
Well, I just started watching Koihime Musou on CR, and I think it's errors would bother anyone, not just fans.

You're pointing out typos and awkward phrasing--not mistranslations. CR has bad quality control, as indicated earlier in the thread. I don't think anyone hasn't noticed that. But is the translator for that show competent? How accurate is it? A translation can sound perfectly fine in English but be entirely wrong or misleading. Fans generally make poor judges of a translation's quality because they, largely, don't know Japanese (or know a little bit and insist on textbook translations).

I won't comment on anything specific to this show: But 9 times out of ten, if a translator can't be bothered to make sure they use correct english, they aren't putting much care into making sure the meaning is very accurate either.

Your point about fans making poor judgement on translation is quite accurate though.

Forgive me, but shouldn't the editor be the one making sure they're using correct English? I'm guessing they skip that phase along with any quality checking. I'll give them an A+ for their business model but I'm really starting to regret paying them money. To make matters worse the new flash player they're using is buggy as hell and I really doubt they tested it much before implementing it.

Quarkboy
10-08-2009, 11:20 AM
Well, I just started watching Koihime Musou on CR, and I think it's errors would bother anyone, not just fans.

You're pointing out typos and awkward phrasing--not mistranslations. CR has bad quality control, as indicated earlier in the thread. I don't think anyone hasn't noticed that. But is the translator for that show competent? How accurate is it? A translation can sound perfectly fine in English but be entirely wrong or misleading. Fans generally make poor judges of a translation's quality because they, largely, don't know Japanese (or know a little bit and insist on textbook translations).

I won't comment on anything specific to this show: But 9 times out of ten, if a translator can't be bothered to make sure they use correct english, they aren't putting much care into making sure the meaning is very accurate either.

Your point about fans making poor judgement on translation is quite accurate though.

Forgive me, but shouldn't the editor be the one making sure they're using correct English? I'm guessing they skip that phase along with any quality checking. I'll give them an A+ for their business model but I'm really starting to regret paying them money. To make matters worse the new flash player they're using is buggy as hell and I really doubt they tested it much before implementing it.

Fine, then replace "translator" with "translation team" or "translation services company" or "translation contractor".

It doesn't really matter what form the translation is done in... Lack of care is lack of care.

Fencedude
10-08-2009, 01:27 PM
The Shin Koihime subs seem fine, in fact, they are very good.

I have minor quibbles with calling "Mana Name" "Given Name", but...I can live with that.

Quarkboy
10-08-2009, 01:46 PM
The Shin Koihime subs seem fine, in fact, they are very good.

I have minor quibbles with calling "Mana Name" "Given Name", but...I can live with that.

Considering the shin koihime subs and the koihime ones are not by the same people, that's not surprising.

Unfortunately the video quality for it is crap during any scenes with too much motion

Draneor
10-08-2009, 02:06 PM
So the announcement that was supposed to be at noon PDT today has been changed to TBA sometime in the last hour or so.^^U

Suwako Moriya
10-08-2009, 02:07 PM
So the announcement that was supposed to be at noon PDT today has been changed to TBA sometime in the last hour or so.^^U

Ah, so it was changed. Here I thought I might have been remembering wrong. It looks like I was remembering right. They just decide to change things on mean for whatever reason.

Fudce
10-08-2009, 02:08 PM
Hmm, was there supposed to be an announcement today? The penultimate spot in the autumn buildup page has now become "TDB" (The Decision Bemuses?) like the final one - or am I just being dense and failing to notice that it was like that all along?

Fencedude
10-08-2009, 02:13 PM
Hmm, was there supposed to be an announcement today? The penultimate spot in the autumn buildup page has now become "TDB" (The Decision Bemuses?) like the final one - or am I just being dense and failing to notice that it was like that all along?

No, it was supposed to be today.

Quarkboy
10-08-2009, 02:13 PM
Well, this week is MIPCOM. Most of the people in Japan who handle approvals of things are at it.

Anyway, they definitely have at least 2 more shows, they just can't announce them yet...

Fencedude
10-08-2009, 02:14 PM
Well, this week is MIPCOM. Most of the people in Japan who handle approvals of things are at it.

Anyway, they definitely have at least 2 more shows, they just can't announce them yet...

Do you know if 11Eyes is going up today?

Quarkboy
10-08-2009, 02:22 PM
Well, this week is MIPCOM. Most of the people in Japan who handle approvals of things are at it.

Anyway, they definitely have at least 2 more shows, they just can't announce them yet...

Do you know if 11Eyes is going up today?

If shin koihime went up, 11 eyes shouldn't be far behind... they're both from marvelous so I would assume the work-flow would be about the same. Whether it'll be today... I can't say.

something
10-08-2009, 03:56 PM
Considering the shin koihime subs and the koihime ones are not by the same people, that's not surprising.
Oh thank goodness, after seeing the list of fail for season one I was worried Shin would have the same problems.

Unfortunately the video quality for it is crap during any scenes with too much motion
Bleh, not looking forward to that though. Assuming I can get stuff to play, and get some time to watch things...

Fencedude
10-08-2009, 04:00 PM
Considering the shin koihime subs and the koihime ones are not by the same people, that's not surprising.
Oh thank goodness, after seeing the list of fail for season one I was worried Shin would have the same problems.



In terms of names, these subs are just about perfect. Proper use of long vowels and all.

The video quality isn't great, but its no worse than some other stuff I've seen recently.

Draneor
10-08-2009, 04:17 PM
It appears everybody's favorite show has a page (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/White_Album_2nd_Season ). So far, it's just a rumor though (mainly because of this (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/White_Album)).

Fudce
10-08-2009, 04:39 PM
It appears everybody's favorite show has a page (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/White_Album_2nd_Season ). So far, it's just a rumor though (mainly because of this (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/White_Album)).

There are library pages for most anime series, just now I found pages for Demon Fighter Kocho (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Demon_Fighter_Kocho), The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/The_Melancholy_Of_Haruhi_Suzumiya) and Tales of Symphona (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Tales_of_Symphonia), and they don't have streams for those three very different series.

Fencedude
10-08-2009, 04:41 PM
It appears everybody's favorite show has a page (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/White_Album_2nd_Season ). So far, it's just a rumor though (mainly because of this (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/White_Album)).

There are library pages for most anime series, just now I found pages for Demon Fighter Kocho (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Demon_Fighter_Kocho), The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/The_Melancholy_Of_Haruhi_Suzumiya) and Tales of Symphona (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Tales_of_Symphonia), and they don't have streams for those three very different series.

Also:

Created: Nov 4 2008

something
10-08-2009, 04:42 PM
There are library pages for most anime series, just now I found pages for Demon Fighter Kocho (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Demon_Fighter_Kocho), The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/The_Melancholy_Of_Haruhi_Suzumiya) and Tales of Symphona (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Tales_of_Symphonia), and they don't have streams for those three very different series.
On the other hand, those all either are licensed or aired before CR went legit, so the pages could be holdovers from when they had fansubs of them up, or some failed deal with an R1 company or whatever. WA2 being listed is far more likely to be real.

Unfortunately... maybe one of the crappy translators will be kept busy with that and stay away from things I want to watch? :sd:

Fudce
10-08-2009, 04:48 PM
There are library pages for most anime series, just now I found pages for Demon Fighter Kocho (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Demon_Fighter_Kocho), The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/The_Melancholy_Of_Haruhi_Suzumiya) and Tales of Symphona (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Tales_of_Symphonia), and they don't have streams for those three very different series.
On the other hand, those all either are licensed or aired before CR went legit, so the pages could be holdovers from when they had fansubs of them up, or some failed deal with an R1 company or whatever. WA2 being listed is far more likely to be real.

Unfortunately... maybe one of the crappy translators will be kept busy with that and stay away from things I want to watch? :sd:

No, I think people can create their own entries in the Library - it's a bit like a version of Anime News Network. It's why they have K-On (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/K-On!) and Geijutsuka Art Design Class (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/GA:_Geijutsuka_Art_Design_Class).

tadakichi
10-08-2009, 04:49 PM
There are library pages for most anime series, just now I found pages for Demon Fighter Kocho (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Demon_Fighter_Kocho), The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/The_Melancholy_Of_Haruhi_Suzumiya) and Tales of Symphona (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Tales_of_Symphonia), and they don't have streams for those three very different series.
On the other hand, those all either are licensed or aired before CR went legit, so the pages could be holdovers from when they had fansubs of them up, or some failed deal with an R1 company or whatever. WA2 being listed is far more likely to be real.

What's important isn't that White Album 2 has a page, it's that White Album doesn't. Crunchyroll didn't stop allowing library pages for unlicensed series after they went legit; Taishou Yakyuu Musume (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Taishou_Yakyuu_Musume) has one, for instance. The White Album page being a dead link means that CR probably killed the existing informational page, and one very plausible reason is that they're preparing to make the episodes available for streaming.

Draneor
10-08-2009, 04:55 PM
The White Album page being a dead link means that CR probably killed the existing informational page, and one very plausible reason is that they're preparing to make the episodes available for streaming.

Yes. Exactly. If you type in a random word (http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/nanoha), you will see the standard message is "That article doesn't exist. Help expand the Crunchyroll Library by creating the article!"