Your "springboard" into the fandom...

[Memories Lost]

What was the show that firmly cemented your interest in your interest as an anime fan? Do you still find those firsts to be enjoyable, or have you outgrown watching them and not looked back?

I think the show that first made me into a serious anime fan was Cardcaptors. There were shows that I watched before (DBZ, Gundam Wing) that I enjoyed, but it was Cardcaptors that prompted me to actively seek more anime to watch.

Even though I have now seen the original Cardcaptor Sakura, I still find myself looking back and VHS recordings of Cardcaptors just to bring back my earliest memories of anime watching. :)

[bluesilo]

Originally it was probably Salior Moon. Then DBZ/Pokemon. Then Cowboy Bebop. Then Haruhi and Death Note. Now I watch almost anything. This is over the course of 10 years.

[something]

As with so many others, Gundam Wing and its contemporaries on Toonami. Wasn't very long before I went DVDs only and abandoned TV though.

Wing hasn't really aged well with me, as I've never been able to rewatch it even though I really liked it at first watch. The other Toonami shows (Outlaw Star, Tenchi Muyo) have never gotten rewatched either.

[Kellory]

Star Blazers, Speed Racer, other old school shows. And later shows like Robotech. My earliest memories revolve around watching Anime after school in kindergarden and preschool at my grandmother's cottage. Although, if I recall right, it was actually live action Sentai shows that I was watching first, it's just that KIKU showed Anime at the same time. I quickly outgrew Sentai shows (although they still have a place in my nostalgic heart) but still love Anime.

I admit, I do not go back and revisit these older shows much. There is frankly too much cheese in shows like Speed Racer, Star Blazers, and even Voltron to be that interesting to me these days. Although I do have all of them for nostalgia's sake. I have found myself revising Macross and Robotech though from time to time.

[chloes_fork]

For me it was Noir. I admit I had always disdained "cartoons" up to that point, and this show was a revelation. I had never imagined I could get so involved and invested in an animated series, in the way I would a good live-action TV show. Mireille and Kirika and the dynamic between them came vividly alive to me. I had simply never seen anything like it.

As for whether I would still feel the same way about the show, well, I certainly hope so. I haven't watched it in a long time (too much else on the viewing plate), but it would be pretty dispiriting to find it didn't hold up.

[Suwako Moriya]

What was the show that firmly cemented your interest in your interest as an anime fan?

Honestly, I'm not really sure I can pin point it to one series. Also my memory is kind of vague. I'd say it's more of a progression. Watch cartoons, slowly learn anime exists, try out stuff through various means, find some good series, find some average series, find some bad series, and more or less all that combined results in a real interest in anime.

It may not seem like it, but finding bad series is just as important as finding good in regards to establishing fandom. The latter shows me anime is capable of being enjoyable. The former reminds me to keep expectations on the realistic side.

[joelgundam01]

It was Gundam Wing and I still rewatch the series every now and then.

[BluWacky]

Vision of Escaflowne (well, I liked Sailor Moon before hand, but that didn't make me an anime fan).

Given that I've rewatched it five or six times, yeah, I think I still like it.

[Keith Palmer]

I'm always tempted to answer questions like this with Robotech, as I stayed interested in its story (reading the novelisations and such) for a full decade after I saw it on TV. At the end of that time, I got to university and saw the anime club posters there, and having very recently gone on-line and learned that there was more "stuff like Robotech" out there, and still being made to boot, my course was pretty much set... although I think that the club showing Macross Plus my first term certainly helped draw me in.

I suppose that nowadays I can still contemplate Robotech's story in a somewhat detached way, although I'm probably more likely to rewatch Macross itself. (Oh, and I could certainly see my way clear to rewatching my Macross Plus DVDs too.)

[Serial Experiments Nobue]

Ah yes, we're due for this question again, aren't we? :sd:


Loved Voltron as a kid, knew it was cool, might have known it was Japanese, didn't know it was "anime". Haven't seen this since its last run on Cartoon Network a few years ago. My childhood is in this show, and I have the toys to prove it. ;)

Sailor Moon is the first show I watched that I knew was anime. Still a sentimental favorite. And that S is my favorite season (directed by Kunihiko Ikuhara) was a sign of things to come for me.... (ie Utena)

Gundam Wing is the series that sealed the deal for me. I knew that this anime stuff was going to be a hobby I'd be able to get into. Haven't watched this in quite a while, and while the story does take itself a bit too seriously at times, I suspect I'll still enjoy it whenever I get around to watching it again because of the nostalgia factor. (There's something I never thought I'd be saying... Gundam Wing, nostalgic. It was the be all and end all of awesome back in the day! :sdsmiley: )

Tenchi Muyo! was the first series I discovered as a brand new anime fan. Still enjoy it to this day.


Ah Toonami, you sparked many a new interest in anime in this country, didn't you?

[Memories Lost]

Ah yes, we're due for this question again, aren't we? :sd:
Sorry if this kind of thread has been done numerous times before. :sweat:

It is a bit tricky using the search feature and pinpointing this exact topic.

[Isuzu Inugami]

Ah yes, we're due for this question again, aren't we? :sd:
Sorry if this kind of thread has been done numerous times before. :sweat:

Don't be--it's a perfectly good question and I don't recall seeing it recently.

It is a bit tricky using the search feature and pinpointing this exact topic.

I hear that if you can master the search feature at AoD, you will receive the power to watch DVDs just by holding them in your hand! (I've never known anyone to achieve such mastery, though.)

RE: the actual question... I worked in a comic shop, and these funny (but appealing) looking comics started to appear, like Lum and Ranma 1/2, and Outlanders. Eventually I tried renting some VHS tapes of Beautiful Dreamer and Project A-ko, and loved them both (and still do) and was pretty much hooked from there.

[Serial Experiments Nobue]

Ah yes, we're due for this question again, aren't we? :sd:
Sorry if this kind of thread has been done numerous times before. :sweat:

As Shimauma said, don't worry about it. This is the kind of question that pops up every year or so as new people keep coming on board. It still works because then we can hear how the new people found their way here! :cool:

[thecapt1701]

Technically it would be StarBlazers for me as a fan. But as I was all of 10 years old at the time, my buying dollar was somewhat limited (plus other factors like no car and all that) so I can't truly say I was in fandom at that time. :sweat:

I would have to say Robotech was the true show/era/period that got me into fandom. Being able to buy stuff and go to anime club meetings and SciFi cons (no anime cons back in the day after all) helped cement things in for me at the time.

Did the Robotech fan thing in the mid-1980's; started going to cons; joined up with the (by then on it's last breath) national C/FO in the late 1980's; heavy anime tape (VHS) trader in late 1980's/early 1990's; attended first anime con (Project A-Kon 1) in 1990; started a local anime club in the early 1990's; published a few different anime fanzines for several years; started working/running cons (though live action US SciFi) in the late 1990's; now helping with local anime con (Anime LA); planning on continuing annual tradition of going to A-Kon in Dallas for 20th year in 2009 for A-Kon 20; more to come.

And the fun keeps coming.

Enjoy!!

[jlazar]

Ironically, it was Disney's Little Mermaid.

I had seen the 80's hacked for TV anime (like robotech), but it never drew me in.

I was Little Mermaid that got me back into watching animation as an adult (the shells, it had to be the shells :) ). That eventually led to anime, since US animation was aimed at kids and usually didn't have the depth of characters, stories, and variety of genres that anime does.

[Draneor]

Ranma 1/2. I first discovered anime when I and one of my best friends in college discovered what his roommate--and also our close friend--kept xing every time someone walked in. It turned out to be .rms of Ranma 1/2 and not what we thought it might be. Other than being my first, Ranma 1/2 is also notable for being the only anime I ever watched entirely dubbed (given we switched to sub-only with the next couple titles we watched). Heh. I've come so far since those days when nudity was embarrassing, Card Captor Sakura was utterly unappealing, and the ending to Love Hina was offensive because Shinobu was partially naked in it.

Well, technically, another friend showed us Akira first. But it didn't draw me into anime like Ranma 1/2 did.

[Njr Scrawl]

Gunbuster. I was intigued before with Dominion & Bubblegum Crisis OVAs, but Gunbuster was the show that really made me want to explore other titles. Being Gainax, it led to Evangelion, & that "sprung" me into anime deep. :)

[Ty]

I'm another "moonie" from the days when Sailor Moon was broadcast on the afternoon (i.e. original) Toonami block on CN. I think my intial interest was from anime style artwork from games actually, but Sailor Moon was the first real anime I ever absorbed. Then when I went to college I noticed other people on the dorm floor watching anime (which turned out to be the Tenchi Muyo OVA and Eva on VHS) and I started seeking it out at the local Suncoast, buying whatever coverart happened to catch my eye. The rest as they say is history. I just recently got rid of most of those VHS tapes actually. It felt like the end of an era.... I looked at anime a lot differently then. I honestly think I enjoy it more now than I ever did in those days though. Anime has completely changed the style of humor and drama I enjoy over the years.

[Ty]

Ah yes, we're due for this question again, aren't we? :sd:
Sorry if this kind of thread has been done numerous times before. :sweat:

It is a bit tricky using the search feature and pinpointing this exact topic.

Don't sweat comments like that. Lots of topics are repeats. It doesn't mean it isn't worth exploring again. Plus new people weigh in each time.

[Serial Experiments Nobue]

Don't sweat comments like that. Lots of topics are repeats. It doesn't mean it isn't worth exploring again. Plus new people weigh in each time.

I wasn't trying to belittle the topic being brought up again, and I've already reassured the OP that I didn't mean anything mean by it. I hoped that the sweatdrop was enough to show that I was not being malicious. If I didn't think it was an interesting topic, I wouldn't have given a list of titles like Memories Lost was looking for.

That'll teach me not to non-maliciously tease again, I suppose...

Memories Lost, please know that I was not making fun of you or this topic in any way.

Sorry for the drift everyone, I just wanted to make it plain what were and weren't my intentions by my comment. Carry on.

[memyselfandi]

I'd watched odd things like Akira and the first Ghost in the Shell movie but hadn't really clicked in. Then I saw the Cowboy Beebop film which lead to the series and things kinda spiraled from there ...

[Memories Lost]

Memories Lost, please know that I was not making fun of you or this topic in any way.
None taken. In retrospect, I may have read way too much into that comment. :) I'm actually glad this community is friendly enough to let such things pass.

Anyways, thank you for the replies thus far, everybody. Since the folks at Animeondvd are usually the most devoted, DVD-buying anime fans on the internet, the intent of asking this was to learn if you had started out the same way as most other fans. Though so far it seems like many of you have quite the humble beginnnings!

[The Alaskan Assassin]

None.
I just finished college and was looking for a hobby to occupy my time with. I was into comics and D&D during the college years, but that died down/waned. I rarely D&D or any paper rpg. I only pick up a hand full of comics a week. I'm not that big into computer games.

At times I feel like i could just stop, but there always be shows that keep me around. The latest (at least JP release only) is Yakushiji Ryoko no Kaiki Jikenbo. I cannot wait for it to be licensed.

[Jen526]

Another one here who grew up with anime-derived cartoons in the 1970's. "Battle of the Planets" was the big one for me, and "Robotech" later, of course. Though it feels pretty inaccurate to highlight specific shows. It became more of a pavlovian response - I'd stop and watch anything that "looked like Battle of the Planets" back then.

When I eventually discovered the existence of a lot more stuff that "looked like Battle of the Planets" only better, and found out it was called anime, there wasn't really a question of "if" I would be a fan or not... it was a given.

Nowadays, I still enjoy and appreciate the Robotech universe, as well as Macross. (I own the subbed Southern Cross and Mospeada sets, but have never sat down to watch them.) I wasn't able to get into Gatchaman. I hate to admit it, but I kinda missed my kitschy 'Battle of the Planets' version with Casey Kasem, 7-Zark-7, and even Keyop's freakish speech impediment.

[Doom85]

While I did enjoy DB/DBZ and Outlaw Star on Toonami and the various 'mon shows (Poke, Digi, Monster Rancher) and by random chance Betterman on Anime Unleashed, I never really began an anime "addiction" until seeing Fullmetal Alchemist and Naruto. I went on to start checking out some DVDs of older shows (Outlaw Star, Betterman) I had seen, and then checking out new ones. Then I started working at Toys R Us and met a few co-workers who were into anime and my interest grew. It then skyrocketed when I started a second job at UPS and got assigned to an area with this other guy. He was wearing a hat that said "Tenjho Tenge" on it. Curious, I asked him what that meant, and then found out he was into anime as well, quite a lot really. So I began watching even more and we'd talk about it a lot while working, and the rest is history.

[Sly05]

Sailor Moon first got me started in the mid-90's. After that I'd watch what little aired on tv (Cardcaptor Sakura, Macross Plus, Gundam Wing, etc) and rent videos from a local rental place. However, it wasn't until 2000 or so when anime became much easier to find that it took off as my primary hobby. I think digisubs of Love Hina marked that transformation.

[Garasharp K7]

It started with Battle of the Planets in the early '80s, then Ulysses 31, Robotech, Voltron, Captain Harlock and Mazinger Z a few years later. I wasn't aware of their Japanese origins though, and made no distinction from the other cartoons I watched. They were just cool shows to me.
Through the '90s, Channel 4's late-night anime slots introduced me to Devilman, 3x3 Eyes, Legend of the Four Kings and a few others. BBC 2 also ran Akira, Patlabor and Roujin Z, but I wasn't all that fond of them at the time.
Back then I was pretty much content with watching (and taping) the shows on tv. I didn't really get into collecting whole series and such until 2001 when I picked up Giant Robo and a few VHS tapes of Battle of the Planets to see if it held up after all those years. (thankfully, it did - same goes for Robotech and Mazinger)
And then it all went downhill from there.... :)

[Ty]

That'll teach me not to non-maliciously tease again, I suppose...

It wasn't my intention to accuse you either actually. What we've exemplified here quite nicely is that people can take something expressed only in writing in a variety of very different ways and I was just trying to point that out. :)

I've had people get on my case in the past for doing a "dupe" topic and it's those voices that seem to stick so I just wanted to reassure the OP that the majority of people are fine with it regardless of how he interpreted the comment.

I've never seen you make a comment that could be clearly taken as rude, so it wasn't my intention to get on your case here.

[Shikishima]

The show that started my interest in anime would be Robotech (The Macross part) which
I watched on VHS back in 1987 or 1988. At the time I had no idea what anime was, but the
drawing style, mecha design and action scenes really made an impression on me.
Later I watched the initial Manga video releases and have been an anime fan since then.

The Macross part of Robotech is still one of my favorite shows, I regularly watch episodes
from the DVD boxset I bought a few years ago. The action scenes and mecha design are
still top notch in my opinion.

[Orihara_Kaoru]

美少女戦士セーラームーン　

Or, more accurately, the Sailor Moon dub that started airing in August of 1995. The Japanese original came a year later, and I've never looked back.

Sailormoon will always be my favourite and most beloved. 13+ years later, of course I can recognise it's flaws (repetitive, gimmicks to sells toys, etc), but I really do believe that it has a very strong overall story and excellent characters. Excellent combination of comedy, romance, and drama.

Other early series that helped me get into anime besides Sailormoon (circa 1996):

Fushigi Yuugi
Marmalade Boy
Rurouni Kenshin
Escaflowne
Wedding Peach

I consider these my "first wave" shows before getting into shows like CCS, Kodocha, Hime-chan, Ririka, HanaDan, Oniisama e, etc (circa 1997-1998).

It's amazing to think I have nearly all of these early favourites on DVD except for the second half of Kodocha.

[Fencedude]

Neon Genesis Evangelion

[EmperorBrandon]

My springboard was Toonami in mid-2000 (was into the Pokemon anime before then since I like the VG's, but it was never a "springboard into the fandom"). I started watching Sailor Moon then (starting out with the S series) because a friend of mine was into it and told me about (I had also played a fan translated version of the SNES RPG several months before). I got to watching it, and I also tried out Tenchi Muyo when it came on around that time. I became addicted to the two franchises, and also tried some other shows that came on Toonami in those years (got to liking Outlaw Star, saw Cardcaptors and later started collecting CCS, etc.). I got into DVD's at the time since I wanted to own the bilingual and uncut version of those shows and have been collecting them ever since. I credit Magic User's Club as a sort of second springboard, as it was that point I started collecting shows I hadn't seen before on Toonami and looking around for recommendations on such.

[TalonG4]

For me, I liked anime as "something different" and I pretty much just rented it only. This includes Dirty Pair, Project Ako, BGC. I wasn't pushed over the edge into a full blown anime fan until I bought my first anime and that would be the Tenchi Muyo OAV's. It was a blind buy except for a few recommendations from this guy on a local BBS and I watched them out of order. I bought vol 4 first and this is when the VHS tapes had only one episode each although even back then I thought that was a bit of a rip-off. Mishoshi was on the vol 4 cover and I just thought she was really cute. The artwork was attractive and colorful. Then when I watched it, I was totally drawn in by the story and wanted to see more and then it was downhill from there. :sdsmiley:

[TalonG4]

I'm another "moonie" from the days when Sailor Moon was broadcast on the afternoon (i.e. original) Toonami block on CN. I think my intial interest was from anime style artwork from games actually, but Sailor Moon was the first real anime I ever absorbed. Then when I went to college I noticed other people on the dorm floor watching anime (which turned out to be the Tenchi Muyo OVA and Eva on VHS) and I started seeking it out at the local Suncoast, buying whatever coverart happened to catch my eye. The rest as they say is history. I just recently got rid of most of those VHS tapes actually. It felt like the end of an era.... I looked at anime a lot differently then. I honestly think I enjoy it more now than I ever did in those days though. Anime has completely changed the style of humor and drama I enjoy over the years.

I also sold off or gave away a lot of my VHS tapes some years ago and I do kind of feel a little bad about it. Especially my Tenchi tapes, as they had some pretty attractive covers.

[HyperDuel]

Tenchi Muyo, and G Gundam for me. But the shows didn't get me really into fandom until I had high speed internet at home, and asking friends for some anime recommendations back in high school (after downloading the unedited Sonic X, man that was about four years ago).

Unlike many fans I had a different take in anime watching. I prefer watching 80s OVAs (Bubblegum Crisis, MD Geist) and movies (Crusher Joe, Arion) than TV series (but I do watch some TV shows like Tytania and Gao-Gai-Gar). I just like the animation that's done by hand a lot better than the current CGI/computer stuff. Also it doesn't help that there's no "macho" man animes out there anymore like MD Geist. It got the point that I purchase two Laserdisc players and start collecting US Anime LDs (I'm surprised that there were a lot of them in the US). Then of course is my Anime DVD shelf which has tons of OVAs and movies (and out of 50 different tittles only two TV series).

[martod]

Ranma 1/2. The first full anime show I got was a VHS boxset of the second season of Ranma. It was $200 for 26 eps, took up an obscene amount of shelf space, and was dubbed only, and I loved it. Those were the days.

I don't rewatch it much now as I've got too much new stuff on my plate, but I'll always have a soft spot for it.

[Serial Experiments Nobue]

It wasn't my intention to accuse you either actually.

We're all good then! AoD group hug? :sd:


Back on topic, I'll just add that when I finally saw Serial Experiments Lain, that opened my eyes to the fact that anime had some amazing ways of storytelling that I was not previously aware of. Non-linearity paved the way for my appreciation of more complex ways of presenting a story, including allegory and metaphor. It all culminated for me with Adolescence of Utena. Since then I've even looked for more abstract stories in live action movies as well.

[BonifaceVIII]

Princess Mononoke. Not a show, I know, but that's where it came from.

[O-chan]

Ranma 1/2 and to a later extent Rumiko Takahashi.

I still enjoy Ranma a lot and rewatch it a least once a year but I do think Rumiko Takahashi has seemed more "generic" to me these days. Her sense of drawing and humor is more reminisent of anime during the 80's and 90's then anything current.

O-chan

[Vegard Aune]

In my case, it wasn't until like, 2 years ago that I actually started calling myself an "anime-fan". Before that, I was more like a "guy who likes One Piece and Dragonball". The series that kinda made me a fan of anime in general was, ironically, Lucky Star, I think. And while I still like it quite a lot, I tend to think "How the hell did I manage to get into that show in the first place?" considering how extremely otaku-focused it is... But considering how like, half the series I've seen were stuff that I watched because of Lucky Star in some way or another*, I can definitely say that that show was one of the main reasons why I became an anime-fan.

*I don't think I have to explain how Lucky Star influenced me to check out Azumanga Daioh and Haruhi, the first I saw of Full Metal Panic was the opening of Fumoffu, which I checked out because I heard it in Lucky Star, I watched Da Capo on a complete whim, but if I hadn't seen that parody in Lucky Star, I would never have known that this series even existed, and seeing how that one got me into visual novel-based shows, Lucky Star would also be part of the reason why I'm now a fan of those.

[Renzo]

I had watched DBZ for a few years before I discovered Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop on Adult Swim. After that, I started watching Gundam Wing and haven't looked back since 2001.

[Kiggy]

Urusei Yatsura. September 1994.

[HitokiriShadow]

Ah yes, we're due for this question again, aren't we? :sd:
Sorry if this kind of thread has been done numerous times before. :sweat:

Don't be--it's a perfectly good question and I don't recall seeing it recently.

It is a bit tricky using the search feature and pinpointing this exact topic.I hear that if you can master the search feature at AoD, you will receive the power to watch DVDs just by holding them in your hand! (I've never known anyone to achieve such mastery, though.)


I think the last one used the term "gateway drug" so if you didn't search that exact term, you probably wouldn't have found it. And I'm pretty sure it was from the previous forum software which may or may not have caused more difficulties.

Anyway, in my case it depends on how you look at it. The first anime I got into was Sailor Moon in its pre-Toonami days. I used to get up early on Saturday mornings to watch it. I probably didn't know it was Japanese at the time but I could tell there was something different about it and I ate it up.

But I really got into anime when I learned that Toonami was airing new episodes of it along with Gundam Wing. I had heard of Gundam due to ads in the back of video game magazines and probably occasional references to it and anime in general in the same publications. I knew it involved giant robots blowing stuff up and was well regarded (the franchise, that is, not necessarily that particular series but I knew nothing of those complications at the time). I also quickly became interested in Tenchi Muyo. I also watched DBZ, but while I enjoyed it, it was never to the extend of the aforementioned series.

So, depending on how you look at it, either Sailor Moon or it along with Gundam Wing and Tenchi Muyo!

[Buster Blader 126]

For me, it was Witch Hunter Robin. I had watched several titles on TV at the time, but this was what cemented me as a fan of the medium.

I haven't watched it again in a long time (it's been about four years or so), but when I did rewatch it, I still rather liked it.

[meganly_chan]

Well, this was 11 years ago (12 soon enough), so my memory is rather vague and I can't pinpoint one thing.

I can recall having great enthusiasm for Sailor Moon (dubbed or subbed, I ate it up). The Sci-Fi Network used to air anime movies on Saturday mornings, so I got to see other things like the first two Tenchi Muyo! films, Project A-ko (and Project A-ko Vs), Dominion Tank Police, Roujin Z, etc.

[loplop]

When I saw Macross Plus some years ago on VHS. I had watched a few shows (Space Battleship Yamato, Project A/KO, and a couple of others) here and there, but it really got me interested in the genre. To this day it's still my favorite show.

[Njr Scrawl]

When I saw Macross Plus some years ago on VHS. I had watched a few shows (Space Battleship Yamato, Project A/KO, and a couple of others) here and there, but it really got me interested in the genre. To this day it's still my favorite show.

Interesting. It was Mac+ almost killed my interest in MX, after I'd seen DYRL & MXII. It was Animeigo's SDF MX TV release that really made me a Macross fan, & keeps me there. The power of Minmay, Marii Iijima's songs & the absorbing canned world of living, fighting & dying for humanity's last best hope.

Perhaps I should give M+ a second chance.

[jcrharris]

I was six years old when I first watched Battle Of The Planets on Channel 5 in NYC. From there I was transfixed. Star Blazers followed and then in the 80s Voltron & Robotech.

I bought ROBOTECH Art 1, which gave a truncated history of the anime genre. It is where I learned about what was done to Kagaku Ninja Tai Gatchaman in order to make BotP. I waited 6 years. In 1990 I saw Akira while at college and was completely blown away. In 1991 I started working at Marvel Comics in the mail room. One ofmy co-workes hooked me up with a tape trader who gave me RAW Gatchaman taped right from Japanese TV. I fell in love all over again.

Then I met other peopel in the Marvel Bullpen, namely a guy by the name of Steve Bunche. He introduced me to Hokuto No Ken. That became an obsession for me. Then came Saint Seiya as well trolling through the old Books Nippon store in NYC for back issues of Animag (lord do I miss Animag).

My fandom is 30 years old now and still going strong. It will probably die when I eventually do...

James

[JINROH]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grendizer

Back in the late 70's,early 80's in French.Has it held up over time? Yes it has for me anyway.