(split from) Would you study Japanese in order to become "self-sufficient?"

[danboardDX]

If you have more than a passing interest in the bigger picture of the creative subcultures and media-mixes intertwined with animation, comics, games, and character-culture in Japan—and especially if you want to connect with the human beings involved, both creators and fans—becoming fluent in the language will completely change your world.
So in other words, you couldn't give a shit about the normal, everyday 'non-otaku' Japanese populous and instead would focus your extensive knowledge of the language to better appreciate your own precious hobby?

Sorry if it sounds out of line, but it seems that you've gone way off the deep end in learning a language just for the sake of bettering an interest in cartoons and nerd subculture. Actually, it's one of the more selfish reasons for learning the language, given that there is so much more to the country other than games and anime.

(It also is safe to say that once somebody makes the decision to pursue a study of the language under those terms, that person is already hopelessly consumed by the hobby at that point.)

[Nylock]

So in other words, you couldn't give a shit about the normal, everyday 'non-otaku' Japanese populous and instead would focus your extensive knowledge of the language to better appreciate your own precious hobby?

Did you read what the thread topic is?


Sorry if it sounds out of line, but it seems that you've gone way off the deep end in learning a language just for the sake of bettering an interest in cartoons and nerd subculture. Actually, it's one of the more selfish reasons for learning the language, given that there is so much more to the country other than games and anime.
It is out of line. You have no right to tell someone what reason they should have for studying a language, especially in the way you have. This is your first post here and you immediately ignore the rules and take a shot at someone. That is unacceptable.

[Gatts]

if you want to connect with the human beings involved, both creators and fans

So in other words, you couldn't give a shit about the normal, everyday 'non-otaku' Japanese populous and instead would focus your extensive knowledge of the language to better appreciate your own precious hobby?

It's amazing that you disregard creators and fans as "otaku" when the vast majority are not. In a way your post contradicts itself since you exhibit the exact behavior that you are attempting to deride by looking down on someone who is attempting to expand their cultural knowledge.

What you may have been trying to say:
"Don't ignore other parts of Japanese culture while learning the language"

What you came off as saying:
"Fuck anyone who learns Japanese for their hobby"

I will assume that you are a rational person. As one you should know that spitting venom is the worst way to get your opinion heard and recognized. The more adamantly you yell profanities, the less valid your point seems to all but a few people.

For that reason, instead of being known as "that guy who flipped out over a difference of opinion that got banned in a few days"; Perhaps you should take to time to type up a response that gets your point across without vitriol and malice.

Or you could choose to stay the course and earn yourself a place in the ring of honor known as the banned list. It is your choice.