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muhootsaver
03-26-2009, 09:42 AM
Oh my! http://muhootsaver.tistory.com/entry/Mar-252009-news-2009%EB%85%84-326-%EC%86%8C%EC%8B%9D
I took that screencap from the CM. Remixed 5.1ch. Scheduled for this September. orz... I just might have to buy this one...
Day 1.... I'm not sure if I'll even wait to confirm if it's an upscale... I love this damn show. Now if you'll excuse I'll go shed some manly tears of happiness.
hissatsu
03-26-2009, 02:07 PM
Day 1.... I'm not sure if I'll even wait to confirm if it's an upscale... I love this damn show. Now if you'll excuse I'll go shed some manly tears of happiness.
I recall Planetes was an HD production. Now would English subtitles be too much to ask for? Yeah, probably won't happen.
Was it a HD production? I honestly can't remember apart from seeing some caps that were at least HD resolution. But it was so long ago I can't even remember. Well, the bandai release was nice enough. But even with no subtitles I'll probably grab this one as it is one of the best scifi shows.
Pyocola
03-26-2009, 03:50 PM
It was animated in HD, definitely not an upscale (well, at least not from SD resolution.)
Buster Darkwings
03-26-2009, 09:15 PM
Official listing: http://product.bandaivisual.co.jp/web_service/shop_product_info.asp?item_no=BCXA-0181
No English dub/subs listed, at least not yet.
52,500 yen also seems a bit expensive for a 2-cour show... I'll have to think about this one. Would definitely get it at R1 prices, though.
I really love this show and do hope they release it in NA on Blu at a reasonable price. It's very popular and would probably sell fairly well.
This is a bit of an insane pricetag for a re-release IMHO. Oh well, reading the amazon.jp comments should be amusing then. The way things are, I'm not counting on a R1 blu-ray release at all, there's probably tons of other more popular shows that'd sell better on blu-ray like Gundam 00 for example.
I'd have grabbed the show at half the price with no hesitation, though I think I'll grab it despite the high pricetag. Afterall it's one of the best scifi themed anime shows.
Buster Darkwings
03-26-2009, 09:41 PM
I really love this show and do hope they release it in NA on Blu at a reasonable price. It's very popular and would probably sell fairly well.
Uh, I was under the impression that R1 sales were poor and that the LEs w/slipcovers + extras discs were cancelled halfway through...
Quarkboy
03-26-2009, 09:46 PM
Official listing: http://product.bandaivisual.co.jp/web_service/shop_product_info.asp?item_no=BCXA-0181
No English dub/subs listed, at least not yet.
52,500 yen also seems a bit expensive for a 2-cour show... I'll have to think about this one. Would definitely get it at R1 prices, though.
It's basically in line with the rest of BV's blu-ray prices. 2000 yen an episode. New release singles are 2300 and episode, box sets are around 2000.
Buster Darkwings
03-26-2009, 09:59 PM
It's basically in line with the rest of BV's blu-ray prices. 2000 yen an episode. New release singles are 2300 and episode, box sets are around 2000.
The Ashita no Joe 2, Eureka Seven, Dancouga, and Z Gundam boxes were all around 36000 yen for about the same number of episodes. Minky Momo was a bit more expensive at 39900 yen for each box, but that's still a significant price difference per ep.
But it's pretty obvous that the price per ep goes up as the total number of episodes goes down, as they charge around 20,000-26,000 yen for their OVA series, and I assume they'd charge about the same for a 1-cour TV series box.
Quarkboy
03-26-2009, 10:10 PM
It's basically in line with the rest of BV's blu-ray prices. 2000 yen an episode. New release singles are 2300 and episode, box sets are around 2000.
The Ashita no Joe 2, Eureka Seven, Dancouga, and Z Gundam boxes were all around 36000 yen for about the same number of episodes. Minky Momo was a bit more expensive at 39900 yen for each box, but that's still a significant price difference per ep.
But it's pretty obvous that the price per ep goes up as the total number of episodes goes down, as they charge around 20,000-26,000 yen for their OVA series, and I assume they'd charge about the same for a 1-cour TV series box.
I think it has more to do with the fact they expect to sell less of them, I think. R2 pricing is usually set with a formula where the less they expect to sell, the higher priced the item is, because they have a particular revenue goal they'd like to reach and lowering the price tends not to effect the total number of sales much if any.
Buster Darkwings
03-26-2009, 10:52 PM
I think it has more to do with the fact they expect to sell less of them, I think. R2 pricing is usually set with a formula where the less they expect to sell, the higher priced the item is, because they have a particular revenue goal they'd like to reach and lowering the price tends not to effect the total number of sales much if any.
Uh, yeah. That's sorta the same thing I was saying. Such prices are pretty much determined by otaku economics of scale. Otaku will pay 30,000 yen for a 1-cour set, but not 120,000 yen for a 4-cour set.
muhootsaver
03-26-2009, 11:29 PM
Official listing: http://product.bandaivisual.co.jp/web_service/shop_product_info.asp?item_no=BCXA-0181
No English dub/subs listed, at least not yet.
52,500 yen also seems a bit expensive for a 2-cour show... I'll have to think about this one. Would definitely get it at R1 prices, though.
-_- OMG... that's a bummer. I'll bite if exchange rate gets better(like... a LOT better), but 52500 is a bit high for a series that's 5 years old. I'll have to think about this one, too.
russ869
03-27-2009, 12:15 PM
Hmm... good show; I've been meaning to watch it again soon.
I guess I should pull out my Bandai DVDs to see how the video quality is. If it's "satisfactory" then I'll probably pass on the Blu-ray.
Planetes Opening HD on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI05g96Q6io)
Hit the HD button, then zoom in full screen. Looks great.
Skywise
03-27-2009, 06:35 PM
Please don't use words like "youtube" "HD" and "great" in the same line. This forum is about true HD releases, not compressed to hell and back digital downloads - that's what the digital delivery forum is for.
Oh come on, I was just trying to give an example of what it would look like. Yes, Youtube uses Flash for HD, no it's not Blu, but it's nowhere near as bad as all that.
Skywise
03-27-2009, 07:55 PM
Yes it's as bad as all that. It doesn't even give you an idea what a DVD release would look like, never mind a full HD one.
PhilipReuben
03-27-2009, 10:16 PM
The sharpness and level of detail are a separate issue to the level of compression. In the latter respect, certainly, it looks far worse than any DVD. But in the former respect it looks far better. It might only be a YouTube video, but it's still worthwhile as evidence that the show would look much better on Blu-ray than on DVD, because it's that much sharper than DVD.
JeffDM
03-28-2009, 01:06 AM
Oh come on, I was just trying to give an example of what it would look like. Yes, Youtube uses Flash for HD, no it's not Blu, but it's nowhere near as bad as all that.
That video on YouTube is 640 x 360. It doesn't matter if it came from a 1280x720 video, it got squished down to lower res than DVD. How is that supposed to show us how it looks in HD?
kakugo
03-28-2009, 02:22 AM
It was also bob-deinterlaced rather than given a full IVTC, already halving whatever the source resolution was.
...just saying.
Quarkboy
03-28-2009, 03:50 AM
Oh come on, I was just trying to give an example of what it would look like. Yes, Youtube uses Flash for HD, no it's not Blu, but it's nowhere near as bad as all that.
That video on YouTube is 640 x 360. It doesn't matter if it came from a 1280x720 video, it got squished down to lower res than DVD. How is that supposed to show us how it looks in HD?
Click on the "HD" button, and it'll show it at 1280x720...
Not that the quality is any good, mind you. I HAVE seen high quality 1280x720 videos on youtube, but that is NOT one of them. It all depends on the source, which in this case looks to be an already highly compressed xvid.
JeffDM
03-28-2009, 10:41 PM
That video on YouTube is 640 x 360. It doesn't matter if it came from a 1280x720 video, it got squished down to lower res than DVD. How is that supposed to show us how it looks in HD?
Click on the "HD" button, and it'll show it at 1280x720...
Not that the quality is any good, mind you. I HAVE seen high quality 1280x720 videos on youtube, but that is NOT one of them. It all depends on the source, which in this case looks to be an already highly compressed xvid.
OK, I thought the HD badge meant that it was being shown in HD. I'm too used to internet sites calling sub-standard definition HD because it was higher resolution than they offered before, which was often half SD in the first place.
russ869
03-31-2009, 05:05 PM
Please don't use words like "youtube" "HD" and "great" in the same line. This forum is about true HD releases, not compressed to hell and back digital downloads - that's what the digital delivery forum is for.
Well actually (and incredibly) Youtube does have a few HD videos now. I have seen several 1280x720 resolution MP4 video clips featuring way more quality than Youtube has any right to have.
I'm just saying Youtube does have videos in HD. But that Planetes OP that was posted is clearly not one of them.
zipCode
04-03-2009, 07:15 AM
Pics from promo:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/62634331602543
http://www.imagebam.com/image/dece7131602544
http://www.imagebam.com/image/e0f77731602546
http://www.imagebam.com/image/a38c0231602548
http://www.imagebam.com/image/b2153c31602550
http://www.imagebam.com/image/26aa7731602552
BigPants
04-03-2009, 08:36 AM
No Blu-Ray release has made me want to say "Fuck You, Japan" more than this one. :|
because there aren't subtitles or the dub; I'm sure I'll crack because this is my favorite show
Pyocola
04-03-2009, 09:02 AM
Pics from promo:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/62634331602543
http://www.imagebam.com/image/dece7131602544
http://www.imagebam.com/image/e0f77731602546
http://www.imagebam.com/image/a38c0231602548
http://www.imagebam.com/image/b2153c31602550
http://www.imagebam.com/image/26aa7731602552
That's better. I wonder if it really has to be 1080i though, I don't recall any 30fps parts.
The trailer for planetes blu-ray box is from the Code Geass blu-ray disc. As the only other HD video material from the show that's floating around the internet is in xvid this is probably the best we'll get in terms of representing the video quality on the upcoming boxset:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LX2ELDNU
posted the m2ts file, with the permission of the mods. Sorry I don't have any other faster place to host the file. I've tried it on my PS3 and it plays fine. Quite honestly I'm very much looking forward to this set (sigh... and GiTS SAC ... and 12 Kingdoms :/ ).
Ingraman
04-13-2009, 10:34 AM
The trailer for planetes blu-ray box is from the Code Geass blu-ray disc. [...] Quite honestly I'm very much looking forward to this set (sigh... and GiTS SAC ... and 12 Kingdoms :/ ).
That trailer was pretty. I'd be thrilled if the subtitles (if not the dub, too) from the US release is part of the release, but I'm not expecting it.
I'm very likely to buy this release (definitely if it's got a translation), and GitS:SAC, too. It's not like Bandai US found Planetes to be a sales winner over here, so I'm not expecting them to release it. ;_; I'm not sure about 12 Kingdoms; I love the series, but with it's length it's going to be very pricey.
Daichi
04-13-2009, 08:19 PM
Omg, this show is so awesome, ARGHHH it needs to get released in america on blue-ray >_<!@@!@!@!
Considering Bandai-ent holds the US rights I wouldn't keep my hopes up. Especially considering they're letting stuff go out of print, Planetes collection is almost gone everywhere, so it probably don't sell as well to be reprinted. They also dropped the "LE" style releases after 2 volumes, first two were 2 disc releases. TRSI still has a bunch of those left in the bargain bin (sad), so the later volumes probably got a smaller run (speculating).
So yeah, I'm pretty happy that at least we're getting the show on blu-ray subs or not since it really looks good in HD (which was a poor excuse I used to rewatch my favourite scense :| ).
Njr Scrawl
04-26-2009, 06:54 AM
Planetes US release was not helped by the scratched up episode discs due to lousy case hubs. Also the theme is too mature/thoughtful for the bigger anime audience IMO.
What I want for Planetes BD is to buy certain discs with my favourite episodes, & skip the rest.
Buster Darkwings
12-16-2009, 08:40 AM
Just picked this up on sale and checked out the first 3 episodes.
The video quality is excellent, and like Pyocola said there isn't really much reason for it to be in 1080i so far as I can tell. All that's 30fps is some animated text for a few seconds at certain points in each episode (pre-OP flippy logo, ep title, eyecatch, ep title in preview), which probably could have been re-animated easily enough. Everything else is 24fps, including the OP/ED and 3DCG. There are some instances of bad cadence, especially in the fades in the ED, so I assume these would require a bit of manual tweaking if they wanted to make it perfect 1080p24. Guess they didn't think it would be worth the trouble. Ah well, that's why I have a video processor.
As for the audio, the surround track is maybe a little too heavy on the music (it drowned out the dialogue a bit so I had to turn up the level for my center speaker), but it's quite impressive.
Bibulb
12-16-2009, 12:37 PM
Just picked this up on sale and checked out the first 3 episodes.
And I'm assuming that we were right with no English audio or subtitles?
hissatsu
12-16-2009, 12:57 PM
Just picked this up on sale and checked out the first 3 episodes.
And I'm assuming that we were right with no English audio or subtitles?
Zip. Zilch.
hissatsu
07-20-2010, 10:00 AM
One of the problems caused by having an invincible backlog that can at best be kept in check, is that it can sometimes take a long time to get more than than a cursory look at new purchases. I figure if no anime was released for a year, I might catch up. Maybe.
And so, on to the Planetes JP BD box released close to a year ago. Another episode in "Stuff that will never, ever come out on BD in the US." The video quality is nice, very nice. Much better than the DVDs. I've included some comparison shots below. I'm not so hot on the new 5.1 sound mix. It's not just new mix, it's often an entirely different soundtrack. It varies from episode to episode: some are mostly unchanged, while in other episodes (5 & 6 comes to mind), most of the music is different (and not just a little different). This can be very distracting if you've seen the show before. There's a difference in the OP as well. One line is changed to one from another part of the full version of the OP. 願を 放つ時は今/Negai wo hanatsu toki wa ima in the original -> 大地をいま鳥翼けって/Daichi wo ima tori yoku kette in the 5.1 mix. Weird.
But the sound is a non-issue, since both the original (LPCM) and new 5.1 mix (TrueHD) are on the discs. Audio dramas and commentary tracks from the DVDs are present. No English of any kind, though I'm watching with subs I ripped from my US DVDs.
01 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_01.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_01.png)
02 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_02.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_02.png)
03 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_03.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_03.png)
04 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_04.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_04.png)
05 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_05.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_05.png)
06 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_06.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_06.png)
07 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_07.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_07.png)
08 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_08.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_08.png)
09 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_09.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_09.png)
10 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_10.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_10.png)
11 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_11.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_11.png)
12 R1DVD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_r1dvd_12.png) | BD (http://acacallis.com/planetes/planetes_bd_12.png)
u_nick
07-20-2010, 11:44 AM
I both thank you, as well as curse you! for those comparison shots. I would love to get my hands on that some day.
@ Amazon Japan - Planetes BD-BOX (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0021ZMHTE): ￥ 36,431 (31% off)
murkurial
07-28-2011, 03:32 PM
@ Amazon Japan - Planetes BD-BOX (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0021ZMHTE): ￥ 36,431 (31% off)
A 26-episode anime series on Blu-ray costs almost $500 after a discount? How rare is this series?
I was really intrigued when I read the premise of this after doing a general search for anime films and series after seeing Evangelion 2.0, but $500 doesn't make any sense.
hissatsu
07-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Maybe making a token effort to see what Japanese pricing is like before being astonished by Planetes' price would be in order. You know, like looking at any other thread in this forum concerning a Japanese release. No, this isn't unusual pricing.
murkurial
07-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Maybe making a token effort to see what Japanese pricing is like before being astonished by Planetes' price would be in order. You know, like looking at any other thread in this forum concerning a Japanese release. No, this isn't unusual pricing.
Oh, so that's what kind message board this is then huh? Lol, I wonder why I was so anxious to get my account registered to speak with other fans. I'd count myself among the new and relatively uneducated ones, but still interested in learning more...which is why I asked the damn question.
You think that maybe saying all of that w/o the cunty attitude strewn about the post might've been a little easier?
something
07-28-2011, 03:58 PM
You think that maybe saying all of that w/o the cunty attitude strewn about the post might've been a little easier?
Hissatsu has a fairly, er, "hair-trigger" response to any questions like "Why does this cost so much?", "When will it be licensed?" and "Why aren't there English subs?" as regards Japanese releases, so if it's any consolation you're not being singled out. If possible, don't take it personally.
For those of us who are constantly immersed in the world of importing (I haven't bought an R1 in a long long time) and have been mentally warped to the point where anything less than $300 for a cour of anime feels dirt cheap, it can be a bit repetitive when every thread has an incredulous reaction to what we know are perfectly standard Japanese prices. But the reaction is understandable, and certainly we should take into account that, to normal sane human beings, these releases are pretty fucking outrageously priced. It's just kind of funny what a person can get used to after enough time... eventually you stop even batting an eye at dropping $70 on two episodes.
Anyway, welcome to the boards. :sd:
Fencedude
07-28-2011, 04:10 PM
Oh, so that's what kind message board this is then huh? Lol, I wonder why I was so anxious to get my account registered to speak with other fans. I'd count myself among the new and relatively uneducated ones, but still interested in learning more...which is why I asked the damn question.
You think that maybe saying all of that w/o the cunty attitude strewn about the post might've been a little easier?
Sure, if you'll tone down the victimization complex, 'k?
hissatsu
07-28-2011, 05:14 PM
You think that maybe saying all of that w/o the cunty attitude strewn about the post might've been a little easier?
Hissatsu has a fairly, er, "hair-trigger" response to any questions like "Why does this cost so much?", "When will it be licensed?" and "Why aren't there English subs?" as regards Japanese releases, so if it's any consolation you're not being singled out. If possible, don't take it personally.
So are you saying I'm going to lose my spot as the head of the reception committee? To think how long I lobbied for it, and now this.
Ingraman
07-28-2011, 10:24 PM
@ Amazon Japan - Planetes BD-BOX (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0021ZMHTE): ￥ 36,431 (31% off)
A 26-episode anime series on Blu-ray costs almost $500 after a discount?
That's not too abnormal for an anime BD box in Japan.
I was really intrigued when I read the premise of this after doing a general search for anime films and series after seeing Evangelion 2.0Buy the R1 DVD release from Bandai. It's a cheap release of an awesome series, which is one of my favorites.
[...], but $500 doesn't make any sense.I just ordered a copy, and it should arrive tomorrow (if DHL doesn't mis-route it in LA and delay delivery until the following business day [as they've done with 5 of my last 8 AmazonJP shipments!! <grrr> ]). The only thing better would have been pre-ordering it, or just ordering it long ago when the discount was less, but the exchange rate far, far better. <sigh> ;_;
nakimushi
07-28-2011, 10:43 PM
@ Amazon Japan - Planetes BD-BOX (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0021ZMHTE): ￥ 36,431 (31% off)
A 26-episode anime series on Blu-ray costs almost $500 after a discount? How rare is this series?
I was really intrigued when I read the premise of this after doing a general search for anime films and series after seeing Evangelion 2.0, but $500 doesn't make any sense.
It is a great show. If you don't want to pay Japanese prices, and you would prefer subtitles and a dub (which the Japanese Blu-Ray box does not have) you can pick up the R1 DVD set (http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/15R8NNTHUrVNkPVR35/browse/item/71307/4/0/0) for a lot less.
There is no, and in all likelihood, will never be a US Blu-Ray release.
kakugo
07-28-2011, 10:53 PM
Oh, so that's what kind message board this is then huh? I'd count myself among the new and relatively uneducated ones, but still interested in learning more...which is why I asked the damn question.
Lesson One: If the thread has [JP] in the title, expect everyone therein to be a grizzled sum'bitch wearing an eye patch and with a peg leg, chain-smoking pure I don't-give-a-crap as they drop another $80 on 2 episodes of a possibly garbage show they were only half-crazy about to start with. Do that a dozen or so times and they just start wanting to punch people who complain about high prices for breakfast. It's pure instinct at that point - you can hardly blame them. It breaks a man after a while. Those import prices with today's exchange rate are hell, soldier.
You want anime on Blu-ray? Consider yourself in the shit, son.
You think that maybe saying all of that w/o the cunty attitude strewn about the post might've been a little easier?
Lesson Two: Internet sarcasm is one of the very few things that makes $500 box sets slightly more tolerable. ;)
JeffDM
07-28-2011, 11:20 PM
Ha, a zombie thread.
I treat Japanese imports as something reserved for the special occasion, the very top shows that I like. If you're just getting into anime now, then now is not the time to buy the Japanese imports.
Ingraman
07-28-2011, 11:59 PM
Lesson One: If the thread has [JP] in the title, expect everyone therein to be a grizzled sum'bitch wearing an eye patch and with a peg leg [snip]
The last place that I would expect to find pirates would be in a thread about Japanese BD releases. ;p
kakugo
07-29-2011, 05:41 AM
Hey, now! I made no mention of parrots, swashbuckling or triangular headgear... seems to me you're jumping the gun on battle scarred stereotypes. :sdsmiley:
javaandjam
07-29-2011, 09:40 AM
Next Summer: Pirates of the Carribbean 5: Ninja N'er Do Wells!
Buster Darkwings
03-15-2012, 09:03 PM
@ Amazon Japan - Planetes BD-BOX (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0021ZMHTE): ￥ 36,431 (31% off)
Now 35% off, which might be the lowest it's ever been. I've already had it for a few years now (and still haven't finished re-authoring it with the R1 subs...), though.
russ869
03-16-2012, 10:35 AM
(and still haven't finished re-authoring it with the R1 subs...)
Heh... You aren't trying to translate all the menus and extras too, are you? A guy I know who's doing that has only finished authoring 1 disc since the set came out. But he's really just playing around to learn how to do anything and everything with BD-J.
Buster Darkwings
03-16-2012, 09:28 PM
Nah, I don't care about menus too much (other than having an intense hate for BD-J) but I do like to have them when there's more than just the episodes on a disc, so I'm making new menus with multiAVCHD.
The thing that's taking so long is removing stupid localizaton crap, adding honorifics, and fixing mistakes, of which there are a LOT in the subs for the commentary tracks. It's like they got some random fansubber who only had a few years of Japanese classes to do them by ear without any scripts, since there's multiple errors where they didn't accurately hear what was being said.
russ869
03-17-2012, 09:40 AM
So... I assume mistakes like that make it into the dub too? Assuming the dub script isn't way different from the subtitle translation (as it sometimes is).
Buster Darkwings
03-17-2012, 10:29 AM
Yeah, they usually have the same mistakes AFAIK.
I remember back when I pointed out all the dubtitle crap in the original Z Gundam subs, the actual dub had a more accurate script in some parts that I checked, though. And the Gundam 08th MS Team dub actually didn't use Nadelman's stupid "Feddie" translation in a part where it would sound extra awkward (at the end of the first ep when Aina is talking to Shiro and they're already feeling close to each other), but of course the subs used it...
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