Tears to Tiara Discussion Thread [Archive]

Fencedude

04-01-2009, 09:57 PM

From the creators of Utawarerumono

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HitokiriShadow

04-01-2009, 10:01 PM

From the creators of Utawarerumono.

This is why Tears to Tiara is one of my most anticipated shows for the Spring '09 season.

Suwako Moriya

04-01-2009, 10:16 PM

From the creators of Utawarerumono.This is why Tears to Tiara is one of my most anticipated shows for the Spring '09 season.

The Utawarerumono factor does have me somewhat interested. Except I never did finish that series. So make of that what you will.

Draneor

04-01-2009, 10:29 PM

From the creators of Utawarerumono

And Comic Party, ToHeart, ToHeart2, and White Album. Leaf/Aquaplus <3

Fencedude

04-01-2009, 10:43 PM

From the creators of Utawarerumono

And Comic Party, ToHeart, ToHeart2, and White Album. Leaf/Aquaplus <3

Yeah, but none of those are fantasy action dramas, thus aren't really good comparisons.

Suwako Moriya

04-01-2009, 10:45 PM

And Comic Party, ToHeart, ToHeart2, and White Album. Leaf/Aquaplus <3

Here we have three titles that I found at the very least to be decent. With one title that ended up frustrating me.

Westlo

04-03-2009, 05:33 PM

They released this a day early on Nico, here's the OP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t48xyo4amBk&feature=player_embedded

Octavia = win.

Suwako Moriya

04-04-2009, 12:32 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t48xyo4amBk&feature=player_embedded

It's not my favorite song per se, but it is at least decent. I'm just undecided on whether it will grow on me or if I'll tired of it. I might need to listen to it a few more times later. Or I could just wait until I watch the actual episode.

Draneor

04-04-2009, 06:41 AM

Eh. I'm kind of disappointed, although there was no way it was going to match "Tears to Tiara" or "Haunting Melody". At least they kept Suara.<3

Oh, and Riannon is love.

Westlo

04-04-2009, 07:23 AM

Eh. I'm kind of disappointed, although there was no way it was going to match "Tears to Tiara" or "Haunting Melody". At least they kept Suara.<3

Yeah it is kinda disappointing.

Tears to Tiara (PC) > Haunting Melody (PS3) >>>>>> Anime OP.

I was hoping the OP would be the song at the end of the trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hop-wDoxr08

Also I would hope they use Tears to Tiara as an insert song at some point!

Draneor

04-04-2009, 08:06 AM

I was hoping the OP would be the song at the end of the trailer.

[...]

Also I would hope they use Tears to Tiara as an insert song at some point!

Ah, "Until." That's a great song too.

Westlo

04-04-2009, 09:48 AM

I was hoping the OP would be the song at the end of the trailer.

[...]

Also I would hope they use Tears to Tiara as an insert song at some point!

Ah, "Until." That's a great song too.

*looks around*

*slaps head*

Arrghh! Until is the last song on the OST.

William K

04-05-2009, 12:08 PM

Got to watch it same time with Japan thanks to Animax. Subs were so-so but story was pretty straightforward even for someone like me who hasn't played the game before. Basic intro episode with just a small number of the characters appearing so will have to watch some more before deciding on this one. Hopefully we'll get a nice sword and sorcery series to replace Uruk.

leongsh

04-05-2009, 12:14 PM

Got to watch it same time with Japan thanks to Animax. Subs were so-so but story was pretty straightforward even for someone like me who hasn't played the game before.
Another show which I came in without any expectations as I have no knowledge of the game. It's a decent starting episode for a fantasy fighting show. I presume that there's some big bucks behind it as the animation looks quite good.

Oh.. same here - just finished watching Episode 1 on Animax Asia.

Hopefully we'll get a nice sword and sorcery series to replace Uruk.
I think Tears to Tiara is a more than worthy replacement and will be watching this.

Suwako Moriya

04-07-2009, 05:49 AM

Based on the way the first episode went, it's clear that we're still in the set up phase. So I might give this one or two more episodes to see how things go. If for no other reason that I like Riannon's design and her voice.

So her role in this episode was to be chosen as a sacrifice and to be put into a trance? Yeah, it's only the first episode and things are already going bad for her. Hopefully she'll get a better long term role than that.

Fencedude

04-07-2009, 04:27 PM

Well, that was quite eventful.

I have a feeling Drwc is going to be very dissapointed in his demon king.

ArcticMech

04-07-2009, 09:37 PM

Well, that was quite eventful.

I have a feeling Drwc is going to be very dissapointed in his demon king.

Riannon gets a thumbs up from me. I know what I'd do if I was the demon king. Apologies to the vowel-less one.

A village where the people prefer to do things in pitch black darkness? Interesting.

No complaints so far.

Ashyukun

04-07-2009, 09:38 PM

Hmmm. Definitely an exciting first episode... but for some reason it really didn't grab me all that hard. I'll still likely watch the second episode to see what happens though.

Suwako Moriya

04-07-2009, 09:46 PM

Riannon gets a thumbs up from me. I know what I'd do if I was the demon king. Apologies to the vowel-less one.

A single one? You have seven hands, so give her at least three thumbs up.:P Granted I suppose I may be terrible at counting.

As for the demon king, it will be curious to see exactly what actions he'll take. Although I can say I have my own thoughts in regards to. Some that I probably shouldn't reveal.

As for the vowel-less one. Perhaps that may be why he's such an evil for the sake of being evil character. The lack of vowels in his name has driven him insane. Why couldn't mommy have at least given him one vowel?

HitokiriShadow

04-08-2009, 12:05 AM

That was a solid first episode. Nothing amazing, but it gives me a good feeling about what's to come.

04-08-2009, 09:44 PM

That was a solid first episode. Nothing amazing, but it gives me a good feeling about what's to come.

This is basically how I feel. The production is solid, and there is not really anything to nitpick about the show. It really didn't draw me in or get me excited about it, but I'm definitely interested in sticking with it for now to see where it goes. It just didn't really leave me with much to say I guess.

Suwako Moriya

04-08-2009, 10:27 PM

It just didn't really leave me with much to say I guess.

Hopefully the second episode will give each of us more to say in general. The first episode was needed in the sense of setting up whatever they're setting up. However if the set up phase lasts too long then it could definitely cause problems for the series.

pathos

04-09-2009, 08:13 AM

The biggest problem with episode 1 was there was almost no, umm, character development, I guess? It was almost completely 100% plot. Which works with some shows. I'm not so sure it worked with this show, however. I suppose it will be fine, if they develop the characters at some point in the future.

If the show continued to throw plot at you, without slowing down to get a grasp of anyones actual personality though, it will probably get cumbersome.

HitokiriShadow

04-09-2009, 03:51 PM

Fencedude

04-09-2009, 04:01 PM

The problem with the first episode is that very little actually happened. Riannon is coerced into becoming the sacrifice for the demon's resurrection, Aurthur kills some guys, demon gets summoned, the end. You could condense the whole episode into about 5 minutes (or less) without losing anything at all. While it wasn't bad, it leaves very little to make an impression or talk about.

Thats true, but I never really felt like it dragged, except for when...uhh...forgot his name stopped after the rocks fell on the old dude.

I found Riannon fascinating, for some reason though.

04-09-2009, 04:08 PM

I found Riannon fascinating, for some reason though.

She has an unusually strong personality. I wouldn't be that collected if some crazy priest was threatening to kill me whilst surrounded by bloodthirsty soldiers.

Her name is going to bug me the whole time I watch this show, which is entirely not her fault. Why you ask? Because every time I hear it the Fleetwood Mac song pops into my head. :sd:

ArcticMech

04-09-2009, 04:17 PM

I found Riannon fascinating, for some reason though.

She has an unusually strong personality. I wouldn't be that collected if some crazy priest was threatening to kill me whilst surrounded by bloodthirsty soldiers.

So it's not just that funky hat that she has on her head. ;)

The name of the other guy (her brother I think) is Arthur. He is decidedly not fascinating for obvious reasons.

HitokiriShadow

04-09-2009, 04:25 PM

Thats true, but I never really felt like it dragged, except for when...uhh...forgot his name stopped after the rocks fell on the old dude.

Very true. It was still a well done episode (though that part annoyed me slightly as well; get a move on and save your sister, you idiot! I didn't care for the stereotypical "we'll handle things here, you go ahead" part either.) and as a result it didn't really feel like it had pacing problems. It simply doesn't make a strong impression as little of remote significance actually occurred and what padded things out didn't really add to the experience either (unlike, say, cute girls getting their tails stroked).

Riannon makes a good first impression, but her scenes would be about three of those five minutes I would have kept anyway.

beatmania

04-09-2009, 05:36 PM

I found Riannon fascinating, for some reason though.

She has an unusually strong personality. I wouldn't be that collected if some crazy priest was threatening to kill me whilst surrounded by bloodthirsty soldiers.

She's strong? She gave in!

The priest wasn't threatening to kill her, he was threatening to kill those 2 dumb kids. And if she were really strong, she would've off'ed herself anyway instead trading 2 kids for the demon.

So instead of those hunter guys griefing over a dead priestess and 2 mutilated kids and calling it a day, we now have a not terribly exciting anime series about a demon running amok in the world. Nice going there. :)

Fencedude

04-09-2009, 06:07 PM

She's strong? She gave in!

The priest wasn't threatening to kill her, he was threatening to kill those 2 dumb kids. And if she were really strong, she would've off'ed herself anyway instead trading 2 kids for the demon.

So instead of those hunter guys griefing over a dead priestess and 2 mutilated kids and calling it a day, we now have a not terribly exciting anime series about a demon running amok in the world. Nice going there. :)

She knew that if she killed himself, He-who-has-no-vowels would kill the kids anyway.

Also, this demon is almost definitely not going to be what The-vowelless-one expects.

HitokiriShadow

04-09-2009, 06:19 PM

Also, this demon is almost definitely not going to be what The-vowelless-one expects.

Where are you getting this "almost" from?

Fencedude

04-09-2009, 06:27 PM

beatmania

04-09-2009, 07:09 PM

Also, this demon is almost definitely not going to be what The-vowelless-one expects.

Where are you getting this "almost" from?

Ok, I was hedging my bets.

(I think The-one-not-constrained-by-vowels is going to have a very bad episode this week)

Well yeah ... its standard procedure for the evil summoned entity to kill off whoever summoned it. Just like if you threaten people with the life of little children they'll do whatever you want. And nothing good happens to the side character that stays behind and tells the main character to go on ahead.

Man, this anime is so cliche :p

04-09-2009, 09:15 PM

beatmania

04-09-2009, 09:21 PM

She's strong? She gave in!

The priest wasn't threatening to kill her, he was threatening to kill those 2 dumb kids. And if she were really strong, she would've off'ed herself anyway instead trading 2 kids for the demon.

You must've missed the part where he intended to kill them in the most gruesome way possible if she offed herself. She obviously cared about the kids a lot (not really sure why you say they are "dumb" kids in this situation, what did they do wrong besides get caught by an entire army after coming back because they were concerned for Riannon), so let me ask you: would you kill yourself and doom two innocent children in the process even knowing it would be the "greater good" decision to make? You basically need to have no feelings to make such a choice, and besides when does the protagonist in ANY show EVER make a choice like that? ;)

No I didn't miss it. In my previously post I already said "a dead priestess and 2 mutilated kids ". The kids came back when they are absolutely powerless to do anything in the first place so they're dumb for thinking they have something to contribute. And yes, I'm cold blooded and it is for the greater good, so she definitely should kill herself in episode one and turn this into a 20 minute OAV instead. :)

Suwako Moriya

04-10-2009, 01:17 AM

You could condense the whole episode into about 5 minutes (or less) without losing anything at all.

That much is definitely true. I can somewhat understand why they made sure to end the first episode in the way they did. However I think rather than drag out a five minute episode, they could have added a bit weight to it. Maybe start the episode before the "should have been five minutes" part and lead into a shorter version of the said part. One thing I would have cut down a bit was the slashing of the "soldiers with -15 defense armor".

Westlo

04-10-2009, 05:31 AM

I thought it was a nice set up episode, clearly it won't get into it's stride until a few more eps are shown and the lead character establishes himself.

You could condense the whole episode into about 5 minutes (or less) without losing anything at all.

That much is definitely true. I can somewhat understand why they made sure to end the first episode in the way they did.

While it was a good point to end the episode... I think aroduc on his blog said it best

At least Arawn seems a bit menacing as a cliffhanger… assuming you know nothing about the game and didn’t watch Riannon nuzzling him in the OP at any rate."

They really should've left the OP out this episode imo....

Fencedude

04-14-2009, 03:24 AM

"I'm going to be his bride!"

A revelation which would be more surprising if the OP didn't show Riannon snuffling all over Arawn, and Arawn and Arthur fighting side by side.

Regardless, Riannon wins the episode effortlessly, due to being awesome and voiced by Goto Yuko.

Next time we meet the first in what will probably be quite a few female warriors to join...whatever it is we're doing.

(oh yeah and...ah forget it, who cares?)

Westlo

04-14-2009, 03:26 AM

WTB Octavia.

Fencedude

04-14-2009, 03:33 AM

WTB Octavia.

...what?

TheGreenMan

04-14-2009, 01:00 PM

Did someone slip another anime halfway into the second episode when I wasn't looking? What the hell just happened?

Fencedude

04-14-2009, 01:06 PM

Did someone slip another anime halfway into the second episode when I wasn't looking? What the hell just happened?

She's marrying the demon king, I fail to see what is so complicated.

TheGreenMan

04-14-2009, 01:24 PM

Did someone slip another anime halfway into the second episode when I wasn't looking? What the hell just happened?

She's marrying the demon king, I fail to see what is so complicated.

I was talking about the sudden turn around in mood of the show. It was all dark and serious and violent, then suddenly it turns into comedy. It was just jarring, that's all. I hate when anime suddenly do that.

Fencedude

04-14-2009, 01:26 PM

Suwako Moriya

04-14-2009, 02:05 PM

Regardless, Riannon wins the episode effortlessly, due to being awesome and voiced by Goto Yuko.

It's quite clear that she's going to be my primary reason for watching the series. Although it begs the question of which will be the main factor. Her attractiveness? Her being awesome?

Or maybe the fact she's voiced by Goto Yuko, a seiyuu that I'm quite fond of. Not that was ever any major secret. Still I've got to love her voice. It's just got something special to it.

I will also confess that I was paying less attention to the "questions" that Riannon kept asking during that scene and more attention to the partial(?) naked aspect of it.

Over all, this episode was much better than the first. Not just because of the Riannon factor, but also because it felt like the pacing was much better. It felt like there was a bit more weight to the episode.

Ashyukun

04-14-2009, 06:59 PM

I definitely enjoyed the second episode more than the first- the lighter atmosphere suited my tastes more than the more serious tone of the first. However, as expected there's just too much else good this season to have time for it. :/

HitokiriShadow

04-15-2009, 12:50 AM

Aurthur is an idiot, but Arawn and Riannon are pretty cool. I wasn't terribly pleased with the CG skeletons. They were not terrible in and of themselves, but it bodes ill for the future of this series. I was hoping this series would at least avoid Utawarerumono's glaring weak point.

I fully expect Gaius to join Arawn & Friends down the line.

Now that they've finished dragging what should have been about half an episode or maybe a single full episode into two full episodes, maybe things will get moving in episode 3.

LKK

04-15-2009, 11:26 AM

I was really surprised at Arawn's personality. I wasn't expecting him to be so laid-back. I knew going into the series that he wasn't going to be the all evil, end of days type demon lord. But that I was all I knew. I certainly wasn't expecting him to be so easy-going (despite the fact that he killed Mr. Evil Vowel-less Priest). His reaction to Riannon and Arthur's arguing about the marriage and eventual chiefdom of their tribe -- "hey, don't I get a say in this?" -- made me laugh.

The clanking bones SFX on the skeleton warriors was a nice touch. Did the episode reveal who summoned them? Or did I miss that?

I wonder how Arawn and the old guy know each other. I *really* wonder why Arawn and the old guy are taking such a keen interest in Arthur. (Rhetorical questioning, at this point. Don't tell me if you know.)

I think Gaius (the emperor) must be an ancestor of Teddy Roosevelt. He sure was talking softly and carrying an awfully big stick. Of course, anyone who can heft a sword that huge over his shoulder with one hand doesn't need to talk too loudly, does he?

I was surprised by the lack of background music for most of the episode's first half.

HitokiriShadow

04-15-2009, 11:33 AM

The clanking bones SFX on the skeleton warriors was a nice touch. Did the episode reveal who summoned them? Or did I miss that?

The skeletons were already there; the whole place was a giant tomb/catacombs. The resurrection spell used on Arawn revived the skeletons on accident as a side effect.

ArcticMech

04-15-2009, 11:45 AM

Fencedude

04-15-2009, 11:49 AM

I will also confess that I was paying less attention to the "questions" that Riannon kept asking during that scene and more attention to the partial(?) naked aspect of it.

The volume was on, but it might as well have been on mute, since it essentially went in one ear and out the other for me.

Arawn seems to be more interested in Arthur than Riannon. Not your typical love triangle.

The details of what she was saying complete went in one ear and out the other, but I'll TOTALLY listen to a naked Goto Yuko character all day long.

Suwako Moriya

04-15-2009, 11:57 AM

LKK

04-15-2009, 12:11 PM

The resurrection spell used on Arawn revived the skeletons on accident as a side effect.

The idea that a bunch of skeletons got revived due to a side effect is kind of amusing and a bit silly. I wonder how that would look on a warning label.
Demon Lord Resurrection Spell
Possible side-effects: May cause skeletal mobility of the deceased.

Thanks for the explanation, HitokiriShadow. :)

Magewolf

04-15-2009, 09:15 PM

I will also confess that I was paying less attention to the "questions" that Riannon kept asking during that scene and more attention to the partial(?) naked aspect of it.

The volume was on, but it might as well have been on mute, since it essentially went in one ear and out the other for me.

Arawn seems to be more interested in Arthur than Riannon. Not your typical love triangle.

Since it seems to be using analogs for England and the Roman Empire the show may be going for a proto King Arthur story with Arthur being left in charge after Arawn is moved off screen.

Fencedude

04-15-2009, 09:17 PM

Since it seems to be using analogs for England and the Roman Empire the show may be going for a proto King Arthur story with Arthur being left in charge after Arawn is moved off screen.

If so I hope Arthur becomes a heck of a lot more interesting.

That being said, it makes perfect sense, actually.

something

04-20-2009, 06:56 PM

Episode 1:

Well, to be honest as I was watching I didn't have one single thing I felt like typing out. It didnt' do anything wrong, but it was unremarkable in pretty much every way. Lots of cute girls in the OP though, so I figure this one is just slow to start. Checking out episode two now before I come to any conclusions.

something

04-20-2009, 07:30 PM

Episode 2:

- I have to give Arthur some credit for having no qualms about killing. He's already racked up a nice body count.
- ::actually pays some attention to the things in the OP that don't have breasts this time:: Haha, yeah, "demon lord" dude doesn't look particularly demonic to me.
- Oh hey nakedness, now we're getting somewhere.
- Bwahahahaha. I was just about to complain that Arthur needs to hurry up and tell us what the hell his baggage is with our not so demonic lord, and then Rhiannon goes and proposes to the guy! In a single moment this show got ten times better by not taking itself so seriously.
- Urggggh, ridiculous looking skeletons. Damnit Japan, stop that.
- Rhiannon is so smitten.
- Uh... Hey Arthur. Isn't that where you left your friend in the rocks?
- Alright, enough with the skeletons, we get it.

That was better, but this still won't be one of my major priorities of the season.

something

04-20-2009, 07:32 PM

It was just jarring, that's all. I hate when anime suddenly do that.
I like it when it makes it better. This was one such case.

Draneor

04-20-2009, 08:01 PM

Heh. So no (pseudo) incest for us. :(

What can I say? I love it. Just like I knew I would. And Riannon is love. <3

Well, I do dislike the opening and ending. But who knows. Maybe they will grow on me (hopefully, before they ship^^U).

- Urggggh, ridiculous looking skeletons. Damnit Japan, stop that.

Personally, I didn't think the CG was that bad. At least, it blended in for me. Also, skeletons are supposed to move somewhat awkwardly. None of that is to say I wouldn't have minded had they animated it instead...

HitokiriShadow

04-20-2009, 08:19 PM

Personally, I didn't think the CG was that bad. At least, it blended in for me. Also, skeletons are supposed to move somewhat awkwardly. None of that is to say I wouldn't have minded had they animated it instead...

It wasn't Gonzo CG, but it wasn't exactly good either. A lot of companies have figured out how to make it work well in anime. These guys aren't quite there yet. It was a definitely improvement over Utawarerumono, but its still enough to make me twitch a bit. I just hope they don't resort to this very often, but I fear we will be seeing this ever few episodes at the least.

something

04-20-2009, 08:24 PM

I just hope they don't resort to this very often, but I fear we will be seeing this ever few episodes at the least.
If they do, this will be a pretty easy drop. I'm mildly amused by the more comical aspects of it, but there's nothing in it quite yet that would make me put up with much in the way of CG. Saki or Utawarerumono this is not, and it's sure as fuck not Higashi no Eden, so I won't hesitate in dropping it if it takes that path.

Suwako Moriya

04-20-2009, 08:58 PM

Personally, I didn't think the CG was that bad.

In all honesty, I was indifferent towards the CG. Maybe my problem is I wasn't focusing on it enough. That and sometimes if poor CG is used for villains I like to pretend it's an excuse to hate them more.:P

Draneor

04-20-2009, 09:15 PM

That and sometimes if poor CG is used for villains I like to pretend it's an excuse to hate them more.:P

Or in this case, cannon fodder. Sword fodder?

04-20-2009, 09:28 PM

An interesting second episode. The animation held up really well, though the atmosphere did a complete 180. I'm not entirely sure why Riannon is so head over heels for Arawyn just because he snapped her out of her trance, but I'm not going to question it too hard because it's amusing. Speaking of Arawyn he isn't what I was expecting, and this is a good thing. I always like laid back personalities like his that are just a tad smug, and since it's clear he isn't going to be a villain in this show it is better for him to be at least somewhat likeable anyway. Arthur, on the other hand, is totally forgettable which is not surprising at all. At least he isn't too annoying. All in all it seems rather promising. My only remaining question is where the hell are the catgirls?

Westlo

04-22-2009, 04:10 AM

- Morgan is win
- Arawn pretty much makes Morgan his 2nd wife, 2 wives in 3 episodes... Arawn's a total pimp.
- Arawn and harem own grunts in style.
- Gaius got swagger
- *wonders if Arawns injury in the game was at a different body part....*
- Arawn backstory as well as some info on the empire Gaius is from.
- Obor.. Arthur gets put in place by Arawn again, but he now finally agrees to leave Rhinanon to Arawn.
- Land ho
- ED Song still awesome. *listens to full version*

Each episode has been getting better, nicely animated with some shortcuts throughout but no cg humans thankfully. They went through quite a lot in this episode, especially compared to the first two. Arawn has waifu #2, encountered Gaius, explained backstory and now about to land at Albion.

Fencedude

04-22-2009, 06:33 PM

Very good episode!

Also Morgan is awesome, Nakahara Mai FTW!

Now Morgan and Riannon need to get some co-wifery on with each other...

Anyway, I was going to make a long winded speculation about how this all relates to the Arthurian legend, but the preview makes that pointless. LOL AVALON. Yeah, lets totally throw out any pretense of subtlety.

Also more girls next time.

HitokiriShadow

04-22-2009, 10:16 PM

Arawn gains one Haremette. Rather bluntly, too. "She lost, so I get to keep her." And she was all to willing. Anyway, Morgan is pretty amusing and nice addition to the cast.

And that was a nice, bloody little battle. There was some in the first episode as well, but I was still surprised to see how freely the blood flowed here.

Suwako Moriya

04-22-2009, 11:38 PM

Also Morgan is awesome, Nakahara Mai FTW!

Outfit + Body + Personality + Seiyuu= Complete Approval. Seriously, I'm definitely going to like having Morgan around a lot. Second Wife, indeed.

Now Morgan and Riannon need to get some co-wifery on with each other...

The more experience they gain now, the better they'll be able to teach the future wives in the future. Yes, I'm fully expecting more.

Arawn's logic makes a lot of sense. Cutting off heads isn't going to magically solve the problem. A policy like that only benefits your enemy anyway. As they can just wait for you to punish yourselves to death....

The battle was definitely pretty nice and I was wondering if I'd see Riannon fighting in battle. I figured she'd mostly be watching. I'm glad I was wrong on that one.

*Watches preview* A twintails is going to appear. It's official, I'm looking forward to the next episode completely now.

William K

04-27-2009, 01:29 AM

The link to Welsh and Arthurian mythology continue as our party reach Avalon. Not much action this episode as we see the refugees settling in their new home as well as more back-story on Arawn and Pwyll. We do get 3 new characters, the house(?)-elves Limwris and Ermin, and the merchant(?)-elf Epona. Limwris (more Koshimizu Ami!) is delightfully airheaded :). Avalon was named after apples? Morgana provides most of the laughs in the episode.

Rhiannon speaks of Myrddin who gave fire to the mortals and is punished for it, and Arawn mentions that he knew him in the past. Myrddin is the Welsh name for Merlin, by the way.

Next episode has a bard-like character... Taliesien?

Fencedude

04-29-2009, 08:53 AM

Now Morgan and Riannon need to get some co-wifery on with each other...

I love it when Japan reads my mind. (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/446917/) (possibly NSFW)

Fencedude

04-29-2009, 11:28 PM

Limwris is <3, and Epona is Asai Kiyomi, who is best known (to me at least) as Daikuji Ayu. Haven't heard from her in a while.

Definitely picking things up now.

HitokiriShadow

04-30-2009, 12:32 AM

Three new characters this time. Epona seems like the kind of character that will get along well with Morgan. I don't have much to say on the other two as they didn't make much of an impression.

Rhiannon speaks of Myrddin who gave fire to the mortals and is punished for it, and Arawn mentions that he knew him in the past. Myrddin is the Welsh name for Merlin, by the way.

And his story sounds familiar. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus)

carmolita

05-03-2009, 08:29 PM

I am so addicted to this anime and Arwan is my favorite character by far! Aside from the fact that he is toatally mysterious and cunning...He is incrediably hot *fangirl giggles*
Although after watching episode 2 he seems to be developing quite the harem to his chagrin~I think. Does anyone knows\/thinks that he is going to pick one of the girls or is it going to keep steering toward the action? I like both together... action and romance.. I would love for him to be with that girl that propsed to him in the second episode.. I would also like to know if anyone thinks that Arwan has feelings for Riannon? Afterall, he is still wearing her red thing :) I would love opinion please?:)

Fencedude

05-03-2009, 08:34 PM

something

05-04-2009, 08:49 PM

Episode 3:

- APPLE. BITE THAT APPLE.
- Oh now that is hot. Mmm, underboob. Arwan is totally not up for dealing with her hot bloodedness.
- Bwhahaha, he doesn't want to deal with Arthur's noble warrior shit either. "Are you an idiot?" XD
- HAH! Oh my god this is hilarious. Arawn is so fucking up their stuffy old traditions. Every other scene they're just looking at him going "huh?"
- Woah woah woah, Rhiannon is totally okay with Morgan becoming the second wife. Threesome confirmed!
- Bwhaha, they make a fantastic team. Love the shot of Arawn nonchalantly walking down the stairs while Morgan expertly covers him with her arrows. And nice move Riannon!
- So like, they fit the whole village on one boat?

Yeah, that was, of course, much much much better than eps 1-2 because we have Morgan being hot, Rhiannon being cool with polygamy, and Arawn being generally badass and hilarious.

something

05-04-2009, 09:16 PM

Episode 4:

- Where did Morgan's underboob go? Is she trying to be modest for meeting the king?
- Morgan hanging on Rhiannon <3
- Apples! Also, Shimizu Ai and Koshimizu Ami! Yes!
- Rhiannon likes cute girls! Also, score two more for Arawn's harem.
- Limwris kills me. She realizes she just had the descendant of [fucking name I can't spell] helping her roast apples. XD
- lol Epona done fucked up. And oh god, the little 'x' bandage just falls right off Arawn's head like some cartoon sight gag. Hah.
- That's pretty damn amusing. "Oh yeah, sure, I was drinking buddies with one of your revered gods."
- That's quick, the empire is invading already.

Good ep again.

boogiecat

05-04-2009, 11:39 PM

Watched this one on Animax and its a nice anime!!

Suwako Moriya

05-05-2009, 03:50 AM

I think I'm definitely going to like Limwris and Ermin. Likely Epona as well. All I know is Ermin has twin tails and thus I'm hypnotized. Those three along with Morgan and Riannon gives me at least five reasons to watch this.

LKK

05-05-2009, 09:13 AM

And oh god, the little 'x' bandage just falls right off Arawn's head like some cartoon sight gag. Hah.
I was impressed that the animators remembered to show us what happened to the bandage. Otherwise we'd be talking about the mysteriously disappearing bandage. :D

Fencedude

05-10-2009, 02:46 AM

The minstrel is indeed Taliesin, laying the Arthurian legend stuff on even thicker.

Gaius shows he's one step ahead of Arawn, and Arthur continues to be a dick.

And at the end....a woman comes out of the sea?

(and next time AgriasSaber a mysterious blonde swordswoman?)

Suwako Moriya

05-10-2009, 07:35 AM

and Arthur continues to be a dick.

Well, at least he's fulfilling his apparent purpose.:sweat:

Thankfully we have Morgan and Riannon to make up for him.

And at the end....a woman comes out of the sea?

Heh, it will be interesting to learn about that person.

(and next time AgriasSaber a mysterious blonde swordswoman?)

Thank goodness it's not Agrias. She's bad for the health of the bloody angel. In all seriousness, it's nice to know it won't be too long before we find out what she (mysterious blond swordswoman) is like.

Westlo

05-10-2009, 07:47 AM

lol Arthur

Tanaka Rie next week ftw.

William K

05-10-2009, 12:05 PM

Awwww, Llyr (pronounced as Suir. Kaori Nazuka with her Lynette voice!) is super adorable. She's also super clumsy and after an incident with her gown, she decides to join Arawn's harem! She does seem to handle her trident well though, not to mention having a deceptively nice figure.

Octavia also appears (apparently ZetRyo was also popular in ancient Britain) and is unfortunately working for an incompetent leader who leads them into a disastrous trap. I hope it doesn't take long before she rebels and switches sides.

With just one more of the main girls yet to appear, I'm liking all of them so far. Perhaps I should try the game.

ArcticMech

05-10-2009, 12:24 PM

Arthur continues to be a dick.

I think he's not so much a dick as he is an idiot. Wait...that's probably more insulting to Arthur. Oh well.

HitokiriShadow

05-11-2009, 01:09 AM

Geez, Morgan is quite an idiot.

An suddenly, a girl appears in the ocean.

HitokiriShadow

05-16-2009, 12:20 AM

Enter Wife #3: Llyr. She's cute, but pretty dull other than that. I liked the part where Arawn realizes they just used her ticket home to cook their meal, but otherwise, the first 2/3 of the episode about her were rather boring.

Then Octavia showed up. It's a classic case of a very good soldier getting stuck with an incredibly incompetent commander. She's by far the most interesting of the girls thus far, so I'm very much looking forward to seeing more of her.

Fencedude

05-16-2009, 12:48 AM

I was expecting the deeper, more "mysterious" Nazuka Kaori, not SUPER SQUEAKY Nazuka Kaori. Oh well. WAIFU NUMBER THREE GETTO!

In other news, AgriasSaber Octavia is...exactly what you'd expect.

Suwako Moriya

05-16-2009, 07:18 AM

This episode taught me two things. First, that Llyr is hot. Second, that Octavia is cool. Both qualify as attractive in their own way. Octavia, she needs to "train" with Riannon, Morgan, and Llyr. Yes, I'm calling it training.

Suwako Moriya

05-16-2009, 07:20 AM

In other news, AgriasSaber Octavia is...exactly what you'd expect.

And in this case, having those expectations filled is probably a good thing. Now I just have to hope that she'll switch sides and that it won't take too long. There's nothing sadder than "All right, just five minutes left before the credits of the final episode? Now I'm ready to switch" type scenarios.

LKK

05-16-2009, 11:25 AM

Now I just have to hope that she'll switch sides and that it won't take too long. There's nothing sadder than "All right, just five minutes left before the credits of the final episode? Now I'm ready to switch" type scenarios.
If the scenes in the OP are indications of what's to come, Octavia's switch will happen before the last 5 minutes of the last episode. I wouldn't worry about that scenario. :)

William K

05-18-2009, 09:36 PM

It's Hammer time!

Arawn and gang head to Londinium to watch a tournament, mainly because Morgan and Arthur are all excited about it. They meet Rathty, a mine elf (gnome? dwarf?) with a big hammer (think Vita without the attitude) who may be small but can pummel much larger opponents. Weird hearing Kana Ueda's accent coming from an elf though.

We also get Octavia vs Bubulcus. I was about to complain about the unfairness of a fully armoured guy fighting against a girl wearing little armour, but then she started kicking his ass in her short skirt with her killer legs and I forgot everything :)

Of course Bubulcus is a sore loser and summons extra help but Morgan (who wears even less than Octavia) helps out and the two girls proceed to take out everyone. Octavia was really great in this scene. She may seem cool at times, but Morgan made her smile several times. They make a great pairing. Now just hurry up and join the good side already.

Suwako Moriya

05-19-2009, 04:42 PM

I highly approve of Rathty! This makes the second girl with really large hammer that I've seen this season.

Octavia has already gained five levels in awesome. That and it was fun watching Morgan fight along side her.

Riannon, Morgan, Limwris, Ermin, Epona, Llyr, Octavia, and Rathty. This has quite a few females that I either like or love.

HitokiriShadow

05-20-2009, 11:52 PM

Suwako Moriya

05-21-2009, 12:49 AM

The subs used "he" for Rathty but I'm not convinced they are correct. On the hand, I'm not quite certain Rathty is female either, though I am leaning that direction.

Heh, I just got through the re-watch of this episode yesterday My impression that Rathty was supposed to be female came before I even watched the series. Which essentially means one of two possible scenarios.

A: I fell for what is essentially at the very least a technical trap character.

B: Without realizing it, I've already spoiled a reverse trap surprise for myself.

Regardless of what the actual answer here is, that just goes to show you what one of the major problems with traps and reverse traps can be. Be they intentional ones or unintentional ones.

William K

05-21-2009, 01:25 AM

It was nice to see Octavia kick her commander's ass. Morgan got to be a little cool as well.

I highly approve of Rathty! This makes the second girl with really large hammer that I've seen this season.

The subs used "he" for Rathty but I'm not convinced they are correct. On the hand, I'm not quite certain Rathty is female either, though I am leaning that direction. The voice sounded distinctly female at times, though that doesn't necessarily mean anything for the character's sex.

I think the confusion is because Rathty uses 'boku' to refer to herself. In fact her character page on the website specifically mentions that. Either the sub used that to determine her gender, or it is translated that way to mean that Arawn and the rest mistake Rathty for male as well because of that.

Westlo

05-21-2009, 09:43 AM

I think the confusion is because Rathty uses 'boku' to refer to herself. In fact her character page on the website specifically mentions that. Either the sub used that to determine her gender, or it is translated that way to mean that Arawn and the rest mistake Rathty for male as well because of that.

It's the latter.

Fencedude

05-21-2009, 10:55 AM

The subs used "he" for Rathty but I'm not convinced they are correct. On the hand, I'm not quite certain Rathty is female either, though I am leaning that direction. The voice sounded distinctly female at times, though that doesn't necessarily mean anything for the character's sex.

Ueda Kana <3

Also, is it me, or does it seem that Octavia's earring match the "Red Branch" Morgan is looking for?

Suwako Moriya

05-21-2009, 11:38 AM

Either the sub used that to determine her gender, or it is translated that way to mean that Arawn and the rest mistake Rathty for male as well because of that.
It's the latter.

Ah, I see then. So if I take everything being said here into account the following conclusion is reached. First, that Rathty is definitely female. Second, that this is one of those cases where it should be blatant to the audience she's likely a girl from the start.

Suwako Moriya

05-21-2009, 11:41 AM

Also, is it me, or does it seem that Octavia's earring match the "Red Branch" Morgan is looking for?

Honestly, I never gave the whole "Red Branch" thing much thought. Still it would be amusing if Octavia did have the "Red Branch".

something

05-22-2009, 06:28 PM

Episode 5:

- Crab again.
- Drunken Morgan!
- Ahaaa, Arawn. "You're the first warrior, solve your own problems." XD I love his attitude.
- A bard. There is guaranteed to be something wrong with him.
- "Are you going to report us?" "...Oh that sounds like a good idea." Hah.
- MORGAN UPPERCUT!
- Damnit Morgan is hot. Anyway, I like how Rhiannon comes along on these missions. They don't keep her out of danger or otherwise sideline her.
- Crab again. ...Why that's not a crab, that's boobs!

Good ep.

something

05-22-2009, 07:05 PM

Episode 6:

- Llyr is... very cute. I was expecting some badass deep-voiced swordswoman. Instead it's... Nazuka Kaori. :sd: lol Nunnaly. And she's joining, yay! I was hoping Arthur would look down on her and challenge her to a fight and get his ass kicked or something. At any rate, cute elf with trident thing >>>>>>>>>> cg crabs. Yay!
- So what the heck are they saying when they say Llyr's name? It... sounds much different. ::looks it up:: Okay, so "スィール" is what I was hearing but even the Japanese wiki article explicitly says it's romanized Llyr?
- Ahahah, I was wondering what was up with the seal akin, and then... XD Let's see how Arawn gets out of this one.
- YES! ARAWN HAREM +1!!!
- This has now become THE LLYR SHOW. So washing clothes was too much for her, but she thinks she can handle milking a cow? :sd: ...I knew it would happen but it still looks wrong.
- Limwris, Ermin <3
- A military commander shown eating conspicuously. Must be a dumbass who will betray his men to save his ass. It's like a rule.
- But Octavia! Tanaka Rie~! I guess this dumbass' selfishness will be what gets her on Arawn's side. Well that and becoming his wife.
- You know, hey may be picking up powerful characters but the whole damn Gael tribe fit on a single frickin' boat. And there's no indication that Avalon had much if anything in the way of available warriors to begin with. So they have, what, a couple dozen able bodied men, women and elves? And they're going to beat an empire like that? They're lucky now that they're only facing a small group due to the commander's shortsightedness, but how do you fight a war like that?
- lol, just as expected. But done better than I expected, with a rather good action sequence. Hurry up and join the good guys, Octavia!

Fencedude

05-22-2009, 07:11 PM

Episode 6:

- You know, hey may be picking up powerful characters but the whole damn Gael tribe fit on a single frickin' boat. And there's no indication that Avalon had much if anything in the way of available warriors to begin with. So they have, what, a couple dozen able bodied men, women and elves? And they're going to beat an empire like that? They're lucky now that they're only facing a small group due to the commander's shortsightedness, but how do you fight a war like that?

Hey, that guy with a mask stuck to his face and no memories pulled it off, so I think the resurrected Demon God can manage.

something

05-22-2009, 07:35 PM

Episode 7:

- Hah, yeah, okay. Arthur giving a lecture about not being impatient. LOOK WHO'S TALKING.
- Morgan eating an apple~ I love her outfit.
- Again with the milk. I think I can guess what most of Llyr's h-cgs are like. :sd:
- Llyr and Rhiannon blushing <3
- Little girl, big hammer! AND UEDA KANA!!!!
- ...And they're referring to her as a male? What?
- Haha, Arawn can't really argue against what Rathy is saying, can he? I mean, he is a demon king and all... though he doesn't call himself that =P
- wtf? Bubulcus is agreeing to a dual with Octavia? Does he really think he has a chance?
- Pantyshot! Very very briefly. Anyway, Octavia is fucking awesome. <3
- Bwhaha Morgan steals Arthur's thunder!
- Damn, I soooo thought she was going to join there. But it has to come soon!
- But we got Rathy! Yaaaaaay! I guess Octavia will take a little longer. Stop teasing, Octavia!

This show has gotten soooooooooooooo much better from ep 3 onwards.

Fencedude

05-22-2009, 07:40 PM

- Bwhaha Morgan steals Arthur's thunder!
- Damn, I soooo thought she was going to join there. But it has to come soon!
- But we got Rathy! Yaaaaaay! I guess Octavia will take a little longer. Stop teasing, Octavia!

MorganXOctavia FTW

(and Rathy is, apparently a girl, just no one realized it.)

something

05-22-2009, 08:03 PM

(and Rathy is, apparently a girl, just no one realized it.)
Really, I was just surprised it even came up as a question in the show, because I never for a second thought she was anything but female. Midriff + those pants + cute hat + Ueda Kana + eroge + Arthur is already one more male than the show needs + Arawn needs bigger harem = cute hammer elf girl!

LKK

05-22-2009, 09:50 PM

but even the Japanese wiki article explicitly says it's romanized Llyr?
Llyr is the traditional romanized spelling of the Welsh name just like Arawn is. I agree that the name sounds very odd when run through the Japanese pronounciation system though.

Fencedude

05-22-2009, 10:07 PM

William K

05-28-2009, 02:52 AM

In this episode, we find out that Ermin has written and illustrated a book about the heroic tales of Arawn and Pwyll. We also find out that she is neither a good writer not a good artist, but don't worry, we still love you anyway Ermin!

Main focus of the episode is on Ruprom, a group of soldiers that belong to the Holy Empire Senate's Intelligence wing. They specialize in stamping out rebellions and putting barbarians to the sword. Of course, they and their zealous leader Lydia (Miyuki Sawashiro!) consider the Gaels to be barbarians, so off they go to Avalon.

Morgan spots their ship and Arthur leads an ambush in the forest again, but the red-armoured Ruprom are not as weak as Bubulcus's troops were. Lots of action involving Llyr, Morgan and Rathty but they are badly outnumbered and only Ogam's magic helps the Gaels avoid being totally slaughtered. This show is not shy about showing blood.

I've been expecting Arthur to suffer a setback like this and hopefully this will make him less insufferable. A bit of Octavia at the end. Looks like she has discovered some corrupt plot that will push her closer to changing sides.

Fencedude

05-31-2009, 03:37 AM

Fencedude

05-31-2009, 03:38 AM

(reposted because I hadn't realized this episode had already been posted about)

And so we meet Lydia, leader of the Rublum portion of the Holy Empire army, an elite group specializing in "Public Order".

She proceeds to trounce the Gael tribe. Thats what you get for skipping the optional battles Arthur!

Anyway, Lydia is voiced fantastically by Sawashiro Miyuki, who conveys Lydia's subdued, but deranged nature perfectly. We also get to see Llyr in action a bit, and she's pretty good, as is Rathy...sorta. They all get soundly whuped though. And then Arthur gets all whiny until Arawn punches some sense into him.

And then at the end, Octavia is investigating a storage room in her fortress, but finds something shocking...and then gets clonked on the head.

Draneor

05-31-2009, 02:54 PM

The opening is growing on me, although I still think the apple part is cheesy. The OST is not growing on me, however. Kind of sad, considering how much of an impact the game OST had on me.

Anyway, Lydia is voiced fantastically by Sawashiro Miyuki, who conveys Lydia's subdued, but deranged nature perfectly.

Ah. So Lidia (http://www.aquaplus.jp/ttt/character14.html)'s from the PS3 version. I had to do some research, because I couldn't figure out who she was.^^U

HitokiriShadow

05-31-2009, 09:05 PM

Ermin is a terrible writer, but its cute.

I was hoping to see Arawn make Aurthur realize what a big mistake he made, so I was kind of disappointed to see him realize it himself. At least I still got to see Arawn yell at him about something though.

And something weird is going on at the military base Octavia is at...

William K

06-03-2009, 09:05 PM

Octavia wakes up bound, gagged and put in a crate. Apparently she defeated Lydia in a duel before the Emperor in the past and Lydia is the type that hold grudges. Lydia is really scary in this scene.

Arawn and Arthur plot their revenge for their defeat in the last episode and with Rathty's help, they infiltrate the empire's camp. Rathty needs to work on her GPS (Gnome Positioning System) though. They raise havoc, burning stuff and stealing food. Arawn finds Octavia in the crate but is interrupted (in whatever he was about to do to bound and helpless Octavia) by Arthur. Arawn manages to get Arthur to leave the crate alone but someone else in the group didn't get the memo and Octavia ends up with the rest of the loot back in Avalon.

Ogam finds the same disturbing thing in some of the crates that Octavia did at the end of Ep 8, the empire is sending dead bodies back to the main continent. Arawn seems to be a pretty clueless demon lord for not realizing quickly what the dead bodies could be used for :P

Back in Avalon, Octavia escapes from the crate and attacks Arawn when he comes looking for her. Arawn finally shows a bit of feeling here, bemoaning how stupid humans were with their fights over honour and stuff. The fight ends with Octavia collapsing from an earlier wound she got from somewhere.

An awesome-looking Arthur versus Octavia duel in the next episode preview. I hope she knocks him down a couple of times :P

HitokiriShadow

06-07-2009, 12:45 AM

Haha, wow, Lidia is pretty messed up.

Just sitting around and defending Avalon against the Imperials was rather dull and this corpse stuff finally brings something more interesting to the table.

something

06-07-2009, 03:22 PM

Episode 8:

- Sawashiro Miyuki! A shame she's on the bad guys' side, but she's loooooove anyway.
- Need more Ermin in a picture book!
- HAH, yes, Lidia is awesome. And what do you know, imperial grunts who are good at their job for once. Though it's really just to make a point, and before long they'll be getting their asses handed to them too, no doubt. Lidia definitely won't be joining Arawn's harem though. She's hardcore imperial.
- Ahahaha, nice punch Arawn. At least Arthur realized he fucked up.
- Rathy has an idea!
- Sucks to be you, Octavia. Hurry up and join up with the good guys. Morgan needs you!

something

06-07-2009, 04:00 PM

Episode 9:

- Oh wow. Lidia is insane. Yay!
- That's some impressive digging, Rathy. Hurry up and free Octavia before Lidia eats her!
- Holy crap, Sawashiro's performance as Lidia is PHENOMENAL! Even by her standards. This whole rant to Octavia is one of the best acted scenes I have seen in a long, long time. Damn I love her.
- Hahah! I love how Arawn is trying to delicately dance around this Octavia issue. :sd: I had no idea why he shut the lid again when Arthur approached, but it became clear quickly. Heh.
- ...Is he really going to leave her there? Can't he just, like, override the Gael rules? Hell, just marry her as protection =P
- Ah yes, fire solves everything. Arawn better have Octavia in one of those boxes.
- Yay~ I wonder how long she'll have to sneak around before Arawn gets her to join.
- Arawn gets to work his magic on Octavia =D Though the ep ends before she can be fully won over. Need ep 10!

Fencedude

06-07-2009, 07:36 PM

- Holy crap, Sawashiro's performance as Lidia is PHENOMENAL! Even by her standards. This whole rant to Octavia is one of the best acted scenes I have seen in a long, long time. Damn I love her.

Indeed, absolutely fantastic work, really far outside her normal range. Lidia just drips insanity.

I guess Octavia's our designated "Lesbian Magnet"

malazar

06-07-2009, 10:05 PM

Episode 9:

- Oh wow. Lidia is insane. Yay!

Lidia is pretty awesomely insane. She will be interesting to watch for sure.

Octavia making her way to the good camp is definitely welcome to me as well so we'll see how that goes next episode. The weirdest thing this episode was all the corpses the Empire seems to be collecting. I suppose all those priests will perform some ritual to raise an army of undead. Since the Empire seems to have its power base firmly settled other than minor barbarian tribes in rebellion to quell, it seems like an odd effort though. I am sure the undead army will be used to hilarious effect though so I approve.

06-07-2009, 10:52 PM

Fencedude

06-07-2009, 11:09 PM

Suwako Moriya

06-08-2009, 05:14 AM

Is it just me or did all the red soldiers look (almost) alike? Also I'm half expecting to find out that their red armor gives them +75 to a variety of stats.

Not sure what to think of Lidia yet.

Poor Octavia, she just had to get randomly whacked by some random soldier while randomly checking a crate.

The whole "book" scene involving Ermin was the definite highlight of the episode. Her book may be "awful" technically, but it's evidence that she herself is wonderful.

something

06-08-2009, 05:39 AM

Lidia and Octavia have made the show at least twice as interesting as it was before. Also, I could swear Rathty is actually a girl. It's not just the voice either, the mannerisms and everything are more tomboyish girl than effeminate guy.Rathy is a girl.
Yeah, totally a girl, but I'm rather surprised they're holding that revelation off this long. :sd: Arawn and the rest still think she's a boy, don't they? They need to hurry up and realize, especially since said scene will probably involve Rathy getting out of that big ass outfit to some degree.

Suwako Moriya

06-08-2009, 05:55 AM

I'm now confident that during the final battle Morgan will end up drunk somehow.

Watching Rathty dig was strangely amusing. Watch her create a path. A path to revenge, victory, or whatever.

Lidia definitely has issues with Octavia. She's just jealous because Octavia is better than her.

Speaking of Octavia, the best part about her fight against Arawn was his complaint about the whole pride stuff and the way people seem to like to throw their lives away for inane reasons.

Draneor

06-08-2009, 06:31 AM

Is it just me or did all the red soldiers look (almost) alike?

Probably due to a low budget. Individual sprites and character designs cost money. It's cheaper to create one and copy it for the cannon fodder. The PC version was far worse than the anime has been in this matter though.

Suwako Moriya

06-08-2009, 06:41 AM

Probably due to a low budget. Individual sprites and character designs cost money. It's cheaper to create one and copy it for the cannon fodder.

Ah, it figures that would be the case. Suddenly I'm reminded of those shows where they go "Look! They're mass produced clones" or something along those lines.

Draneor

06-08-2009, 06:45 AM

Suddenly I'm reminded of those shows where they go "Look! They're mass produced clones" or something along those lines.

At least the elves have individuality. :)

Suwako Moriya

06-08-2009, 06:46 AM

At least the elves have individuality. :)

And the Elves are what truly matter. Especially the female ones.

malazar

06-08-2009, 04:33 PM

something

06-08-2009, 04:43 PM

Rathy is a girl.I didn't realize this was even supposed to be in question.
Only for the characters in the show. :sd:

William K

06-08-2009, 11:28 PM

Octavia wakes up to find Rhiannon looking after her. Rhiannon is really trusting to hand Octavia back her sword with no one else around. We also get some back story about Octavia's tragic past and probably the reason why she was working under someone like Bubulcus despite her obvious skills.

Arthur, as expected, wants to send Octavia away as soon as possible but Arawn tells him to learn more about her character and make the final decision on what to do with her. In the process, Arthur learns that not all Imperials are bad and Octavia learns that the Gaels are really not barbarians.

Morgan spends a lot of time jumping on Octavia in the episode and it's fitting that Octavia solves the puzzle of what happened to the Red Branch. Which in turn more or less changes Arthur's mind about Octavia.

They do have a short but well-animated fight which ends in a draw. Arthur accepts her as a fellow warrior while Octavia pledges her sword to defend Avalon. She hasn't officially joined Arawn's harem but she most certainly is part of Morgan's :)

Next episode - Gaels vs Ruprom : The Rematch

Fencedude

06-14-2009, 11:22 PM

Ahahaha...Rathty was amusing this episode.

Octavia was pure awesome, of course, and lots of good Octavia/Morgan.

Arthur, you're still a jerk.

Next time, Octavia vs. Lidia!

HitokiriShadow

06-15-2009, 12:12 AM

That was an unexpected resolution to Morgan's red branch storyline.

This series needs more Rathty, she can be rather amusing.

Draneor

06-16-2009, 08:42 PM

I'm really not liking how WHITE FOX/Oriental Light and Magic are turning this into an "after-school special." They need to pick up the pace a bit. Or at least make better use of the cast if they keep up the relaxed pace.

HitokiriShadow

06-16-2009, 09:42 PM

That was an interesting twist to Lidia's grudge. I wish they had showed us more of Lidia and Octavia's past with them being friendly rather than just the swordfight.

I was expecting at least one of the kids to get killed at some point, though I suppose it could still happen.

Suwako Moriya

06-17-2009, 05:16 AM

Rathty decides to show us how fun she can be.

Morgan reminds us that she's Octavia's wife.

Quality time is spent with Octavia.

Octavia has very nice legs. A fact that can't be denied.

Octavia has a potential fan club.

Magewolf

06-17-2009, 07:36 PM

Fencedude

06-17-2009, 11:38 PM

Damn, I was hoping they wouldn't kill Lidia, but I guess this opens the way for Octavia/Morgan.

Really well done episode all around, even without the yuri aspect.

malazar

06-18-2009, 08:40 PM

As sad as I was to see Lidia go already, I guess it makes sense to move the story along with Octavia being a committed member of the good side. I still wish they had kept her around though for the wonderful insanity moments.

arooga

06-20-2009, 02:51 PM

Is this anime just utawarerumono all over again?

I played ttt the game and thought it was awesome and i was really looking forward to the anime. That was until watching utawarerumono the anime. I'm halfway through it and I can't believe that these shows have the same plot/characters/timing/situations... everything. Granted, i'm only halfway through it, but you might as well just photocopy utawarerumono and change the names and you get the tears to tiara game. So is this anime version actually different to utawarerumono or ttt the game? Not sure i could handle the same story a third time.

Fencedude

06-20-2009, 04:04 PM

Draneor

06-20-2009, 04:39 PM

Well, I've never played either of the games, but the anime really aren't that similar.

They are similar thematically, and you can draw rough comparisons between some of the characters, but the plot of TtT is progressing very differently than Utawa's did, and has had somewhat more of a focus on character development.

I've played both games and seen both anime. There are similarities, as one might expect from games produced by the same company, however they both do their own thing. They're also structured somewhat differently.

That's probably about as much as I can say without spoiling anything.

Suwako Moriya

06-22-2009, 11:37 AM

It was a pretty decent episode over all. Just that the whole explanation for the relationship between Lidia and Octavia didn't do much for me.

06-22-2009, 03:06 PM

It was a pretty decent episode over all. Just that the whole explanation for the relationship between Lidia and Octavia didn't do much for me.

For me it wasn't that their being friends in the past wasn't believable, but the part where it was Octavia who was "spared and shamed" instead of Lidia. They just kind of threw that in there deus ex machina style and there is no justification for it. It was a defining moment in both persons' lives, so it strikes me as a bit unusual that Lidia would remember something so important backwards like that. I think I'd remember whether or not I won or lost a fight like that. It didn't seem believable to me. Otherwise I thought it was a good episode.

In general TtoT has been improving over the last 4-5 eps. Even Morgan isn't so annoying anymore. I was close to dropping it a few episodes in but it's worth watching now.

Fencedude

06-22-2009, 03:24 PM

For me it wasn't that their being friends in the past wasn't believable, but the part where it was Octavia who was "spared and shamed" instead of Lidia. They just kind of threw that in there deus ex machina style and there is no justification for it. It was a defining moment in both persons' lives, so it strikes me as a bit unusual that Lidia would remember something so important backwards like that. I think I'd remember whether or not I won or lost a fight like that. It didn't seem believable to me. Otherwise I thought it was a good episode.

Well, its worth noting that Lidia was (and quite possibly always has been) completely off her rocker.

Draneor

06-22-2009, 05:21 PM

I knew those brats would leave the castle.

For me it wasn't that their being friends in the past wasn't believable, but the part where it was Octavia who was "spared and shamed" instead of Lidia. They just kind of threw that in there deus ex machina style and there is no justification for it.

Agreed. I have the feeling that they rushed whatever back story Lidia. I also thought the sudden yuri thing was a bit forced too. It makes me wish I had a PS3.

Suwako Moriya

06-23-2009, 08:09 AM

For me it wasn't that their being friends in the past wasn't believable, but the part where it was Octavia who was "spared and shamed" instead of Lidia.

I could swallow the idea of them being friends in the past. Also for me, it doesn't really matter which of the two was "spared and shamed". You could potentially make the argument that technically speaking it's a personal perspective thing.

My main issue is I find the whole "Waaah! Because you didn't kill me, I hate you" plot to be well inane. Maybe I'm missing some special culture thing or some deeper meaning. I will concede that. Even so from my perspective it comes off as silly.

LKK

06-23-2009, 08:57 AM

My main issue is I find the whole "Waaah! Because you didn't kill me, I hate you" plot to be well inane. Maybe I'm missing some special culture thing or some deeper meaning. I will concede that. Even so from my perspective it comes off as silly.
I think Lidia saw the sparing of her life as thoroughly humiliating to a her ego as a soldier. Because it was her best friend who had humiliated her so completely, that added a layer of betrayal to the humiliation feelings. The feelings overwhelmed any sense of rationality and turned into a killing hatred. At least that's the best way I can understand the situation.

Draneor

06-23-2009, 10:41 AM

My main issue is I find the whole "Waaah! Because you didn't kill me, I hate you" plot to be well inane.

No, it is. I think it's possible that it could be used well, with proper development. However, the anime clearly hasn't devoted much time to that or really anyone so far.

Fencedude

06-27-2009, 02:30 AM

Riannon will mother the empire into submission!

Uhh...we got to hear Goto Yuko talk a lot, which was good. And uhh...thats it.

And hey, we get a fight next time!

something

07-04-2009, 06:48 PM

Time to catch up!

Episode 10:

- Rhiannon is probably the best person for Octavia to wake up to right now.
- Oh Arthur, stop being so uptight. Can't wait for Octavia to put him on his ass.
- Damn, I was hoping Octavia would have her reunion with Morgan.
- Rathy! <3 I keep waiting for the cast to realize she's female, and yet somehow it still hasn't happened. :sd: It's more like they're ignoring the issue entirely.
- Boo, I guess we have to wait a bit longer to see Octavia vs Arthur. But it'll be for the best for her to be healed up first.
- MORGAN!!!! They need to get married immediately.
- Octavia-sensei? Heh.
- Arthur, take some tips on judging character from your sister.
- Damn Octavia is awesome. Pure, as Rhiannon said, describes her very well. Even lunkhead Arthur sees her charms now.
- Hahah, how convenient, Morgan finds the red branch in the first box she opens. :sd: ...or not. Aww, sad Morgan? Sad does not suit her.
- Octavia x Morgan NOWWWWW.
- Heh, flustered Rhiannon is being ignored.
- Ah, boo. Since the match was held after they'd reconciled, it doesn't really go anywhere. I wanted Octavia to beat some sense into him but instead they just kinda call it good after a few exchanges.

Octavia has joined your party!

Great ep.

something

07-04-2009, 07:32 PM

Episode 11:

- Morgan teasing Octavia, who then blushes? DO WANT.
- Yessssss, Lidia! <3 Delicious, scrumptious, delectable Sawashiro Miyuki goodness!
- lol! Morgan, when you do it it's cute. Arthur, when you do it it's awkward, but we get to laugh at you. Ogam, when you do it... uh...
- Arthur, you're so obvious that even Morgan is suspicious. And man that's a big cake. Ermin is love.
- Huh. So what's Octavia's angle here? Trying to feed the Imperials disinformation, or is she really betraying the Gael gang? It has to be the former. I feel bad for Morgan though. =(
- And Morgan, you're ten times worse at hiding it than Arthur. :sd: But so much cuter!
- I really like how they're playing this aspect. It's quite interesting watching to see what Morgan will do.
- Heh, Ermin is their early warning system!
- But the kids are dumb. Stupid kids.
- Morgan! Nice, I wasn't sure how they were going to break that tension. Nice move to rescue the the girl too.
- Wow, kinda cool here Ogam.
- Lidia! Nooooo! ;_; What a fantastic scene though. I had some pretty standard expectations for how it would play out and then it went and was way more awesome. Octavia being pissed that it was Lidia who didn't deliver the final blow? Hah, nice. I loved all the flashbacks too. Damn it would be incredible to see a show about those two together. They were so cute as kids too. Nice ending to the scene as well, and a pretty decent battle to watch.
- !! Oh wow. Lidia x Octavia confir--- oh. Death, you're such an impediment sometimes. At least she has Morgan to turn to fo consolation now. ;_;

Fantastic! Surprised that Lidia isn't a bigger enemy, but this was probably for the best. There's only so much you can stretch this sort of plot, and they let it go out in its prime.

something

07-04-2009, 08:10 PM

Episode 12:

- Ah crap, Rhiannon gets kidnapped. ...And tells them their food stinks. XD!
- Haha, wow, shitty soldiers. They just run off with the prisoner's door open. :sd:
- Getting some focus on Rhiannon is seriously overdue. I love the types that don't take shit from anyone... in the politest way.
- Now she's cooking for them. XD It's always so fun to watch this sort of character because those around her just have no idea how the fuck to react. She just throws them all out of sorts by not being what they expect.
- Though Gaius is a bit tougher to handle. I rather like him too, so I found their conversation pretty enjoyable. Neither is willing to move an inch and yet they both seem to respect each other.
- Rathty should have gone with them. She's clearly capable in a fight. Same with Llyr.
- Heh, Taleisin sees someone he didn't expect.
- Wow, great security guys! First you let the prisoner walts out of her room, and now she just strolls out the front gate!
- Uh, and what's up with Taleisin? He just shrugs off an arrow shot? :sd:
- Ahaha, Rhiannon steps on her siscon brother's heart! =D

Well, Gaius is going to regret that pretty hard by the end.

Fencedude

07-04-2009, 08:19 PM

Arthur's getting really tiring.

On the other hand, we get our first glimpse of the little girl from the OP/ED.

something

07-04-2009, 08:42 PM

Episode 13:

- And that makes the second person to say Rhiannon is like an elf/fairy.
- Rhiannon not actually being human or related to the Gaels by blood, confirmed! ...Well not really but I can't think of another good explanation for her worry here.
- Oh hey, finally the girl from the OP and ED. So okay my guess doesnt seem to be what's worrying her, at least not directly. It still seems quite likely she's not human though. (Actually, was something like that already discussed...? I don't really remember all the talk about the Fairy King and all that from earlier.)
- Hah, Taleisin is with the Brigantes?
- Arthur is suddenly reluctant to fight someone? Where's his recklessly gung-ho attitude when we need it?
- Oh Arthur you're an idiot. Interesting outbursts from Taleisin though - he seemed the type to be cool and collected at all times from start to finish, the kind that watches from the shadows and always knows what's going on. This episode kinda smashed that impression.
- Aahaha, they all jump Arthur so Morgan can fix his shoulder. "Gently". =D

...wtf Taleisin? Heh.

Hmm, halfway done. Not sure where the show is going yet but it's been a fun ride so far.

malazar

07-04-2009, 08:56 PM

Arthur's getting really tiring.

He was pretty pathetic in this episode. I mean really, who would want an ally that is not willing to take advantage of an opportunity while the opponent is weak? Hey guys, let's only attack the Imperial forces when they are ready for us and at 100%. Oh well, at least he got to suffer in the end when they popped his shoulder back into place.

HitokiriShadow

07-04-2009, 11:35 PM

On the other hand, we get our first glimpse of the little girl from the OP/ED.

I had always thought that was a younger Riannon that we would see via flashback at some point, but now it seems that's not the case.

something

07-05-2009, 03:28 AM

I had always thought that was a younger Riannon that we would see via flashback at some point, but now it seems that's not the case.
That was my default assumption too, but the show had completely avoided giving any hints to that effect for so long that it seemed like it had to be something else... but what? Guess we'll find out.

Fencedude

07-05-2009, 03:36 AM

DiGiKerot

07-05-2009, 03:49 AM

something

07-05-2009, 04:56 AM

I was starting to think I'd imagined this before I went back and checked, but it was brought up in the shows first episode that she is at least part faerie, albeit probably rather distantly. That's why she was desirable as a sacrifice for the resurrection of Arawn.
That would make sense. I almost completely zoned out on the first two episodes (the first episode got NO reaction from me at all) so it's no surprise I would have bee muddy on the details.

Fencedude

07-05-2009, 04:59 AM

That would make sense. I almost completely zoned out on the first two episodes (the first episode got NO reaction from me at all) so it's no surprise I would have bee muddy on the details.

I keep meaning to go back and watch the first episode again, I have a feeling that the details of the conversation between Riannon and HE-WHO-IS-NOT-CONSTRAINED-BY-VOWELS will end up being pretty important.

LKK

07-05-2009, 03:48 PM

- Oh hey, finally the girl from the OP and ED. So okay my guess doesnt seem to be what's worrying her, at least not directly. It still seems quite likely she's not human though. (Actually, was something like that already discussed...? I don't really remember all the talk about the Fairy King and all that from earlier.)

I was starting to think I'd imagined this before I went back and checked, but it was brought up in the shows first episode that she is at least part faerie, albeit probably rather distantly. That's why she was desirable as a sacrifice for the resurrection of Arawn.
Riannon and Arthur are direct descendents of Pywll, the famous elf king who was Arawn's close friend and ally during Arawn's previous life. I assume that at some point one of Pywll's heirs married a human and it was through this now almost wholly human bloodline that the siblings are the elf king's descendents. It's noted in the first few episodes that Arthur strongly dislikes being reminded of his elf heritage. That explains why he sounded so dubious and questioning when Ogam mentioned that Riannon could almost be mistaken for an elf when surrounded by the other elves. Arthur probably doesn't like the fact that his sister seems to be more elf than human.

Fencedude

07-05-2009, 03:56 PM

Arthur probably doesn't like the fact that his sister seems to be more elf than human.

Of course, its been well established that Arthur's a twat.

Also, I had this weird impression that Arthur and Riannon weren't actually related.

Draneor

07-05-2009, 04:32 PM

Also, I had this weird impression that Arthur and Riannon weren't actually related.

Sadly, they are very much blood-related siblings. Which does make Arthur's obsession with his sister a bit more creepy.

Draneor

07-05-2009, 06:29 PM

Well, other than changing how Arthur dislocated his shoulder, I thought WHITE FOX did a good job at portraying the radical differences between Taliesin's approach to his heritage and Arthur's in their confrontation. And they managed to slip in a little bit of Taliesin's philandering of Epona.^^

A new ending by Yuuki Aira, "Weeping Alone," should be coming soon. Also, this (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/goods/goods_detail.html?KEY=NEOGDS-9371) was too funny to not mention.

LKK

07-05-2009, 09:07 PM

A new ending by Yuuki Aira, "Weeping Alone," should be coming soon.
A new ED song? That's good to hear. I don't care much for either credits song and would love to hear something better.

Also, this (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/goods/goods_detail.html?KEY=NEOGDS-9371) was too funny to not mention.
I so want that Arawn Nendroid.

malazar

07-11-2009, 11:08 PM

Ignore this.

something

07-12-2009, 12:02 AM

ep14
Ah, I hope to watch this soon. But can you repost that as a reply to the root (first) post? It was posted down in the episode 13 subthread. Thanks.

malazar

07-12-2009, 08:52 AM

It was interesting seeing that Last Supper style mural on the wall of Arawn's grave with his face scratched out for being somehow flawed. Since some of the other spirits or whatever they are seem to have been involved in previous chieftain's death, I wonder when they will make their appearance and have similar strength to Arawn's.

It looks like next week we finally get some undead imperial soldier action. Yay!

HitokiriShadow

07-15-2009, 05:56 AM

It's been a while since we had some good fights and the ogre battle was the most impressive one yet in the series. The golems were less interesting or fearsome enemies, but the fight was still pretty fun to watch.

I think Rathty might be my favorite character (Octavia is her only potential competetion). She doesn't get much screentime but I love every second she gets. I also feel cheated that Rathty actually took off that bulky outer clothing for once and we only get a split second shot of her off to the side.

Also, I would gladly listen to Riannon's dragon stories. Riannon was incredibly cute in that scene.

HitokiriShadow

07-15-2009, 03:15 PM

Nice job Aurthur, you fucking idiot.

I was a little disappointed though, that they didn't have Arawn "die" (obviously, he probably come back at some point anyway, but I was hoping he would at least die temporarily). At least they do an "oh no, he's (apparently) dead" ending only to reveal he's still alive at the very beginning of the next episode.

And gee, I wonder who really killed Aurthur's father.

Also, I wonder if this Myrrdon "guy" is actually that little girl that is linked to Riannon (it seems like a good possibility that Riannon is some sort of reincarnation of her). Lack of gender specific pronouns are fun!

07-15-2009, 10:06 PM

Nice job Aurthur, you fucking idiot.

My patience for Arthur is wearing so thin I'm starting to find it a chore to watch the show in general. He is one of the least likable male leads I've seen in quite a while.

Fencedude

07-16-2009, 12:04 AM

Rathty is so much win.

Also, was it me or were the girls (especially Morgan) more...uhh...bouncy?

HitokiriShadow

07-16-2009, 12:25 AM

Also, was it me or were the girls (especially Morgan) more...uhh...bouncy?

I specifically noticed that Morgan was quite perky and bouncy at the breakfast table. I don't recall taking particular notice of anything from the other girls.

Fencedude

07-16-2009, 12:32 AM

Fuck you Arthur! Seriously, fuck you.

Uhh...so yeah the girl is cute, and presumably Riannon's a reincarnation of her. I like the idea that she is "Myrddon" (who is, of course, Merlin).

But yeah, Arthur needs to fuck off and die already. He adds nothing to story, other than useless whining and screwing shit up.

Thankfully Arawn is actually pretty cool, and the girls are fantastic <3

Draneor

07-16-2009, 07:50 AM

He is one of the least likable male leads I've seen in quite a while.

Arthur isn't actually the male lead. You know how every visual novel has a crazy or annoying friend?

07-16-2009, 03:04 PM

Arthur isn't actually the male lead. You know how every visual novel has a crazy or annoying friend?

Well, I mean lead as in a lead character. I have a bit of a hard time picturing Arawn as the center of a harem. That is something I have to credit the anime for, it does a good job of not coming off as a harem adaptation even though nearly every character is female. They certainly aren't constantly hovering over Arawn, except for Riannon of course and Ermin's cute little crush on him.

Suwako Moriya

07-18-2009, 10:21 AM

Uhh...we got to hear Goto Yuko talk a lot, which was good.

Yes, that was definitely the best aspect of the episode. In any case, this had to be one of the more laid back "I've been taken prisoner" episodes that I've seen in awhile.

Suwako Moriya

07-18-2009, 11:06 AM

Run for your life, Epona, there's a Taliesin coming for you. Yes, I'd like for Epona to run towards me. My thoughts are currently pure.

Suwako Moriya

07-18-2009, 11:25 AM

Rathty is so much win.

She definitely deserves more screen time.

Suwako Moriya

07-19-2009, 01:37 AM

Uhh...so yeah the girl is cute, and presumably Riannon's a reincarnation of her. I like the idea that she is "Myrddon" (who is, of course, Merlin).

If that actually is the case, then I like this version of Merlin a lot better. I don't even need to say why.

But yeah, Arthur needs to fuck off and die already. He adds nothing to story, other than useless whining and screwing shit up.

It's like the guy has dedicated his life to being a complete and utter moron. He's has a very narrow way of thinking. He relies too much on emotion. He also tends to prioritize the wrong things. Hence forth, the sooner he dies the better.

Thankfully Arawn is actually pretty cool, and the girls are fantastic <3

In some ways, they help to make up for the pain that Arthur causes. Arthur is trying his best to drag the show down. While they are trying their best to keep the showing decent.

HitokiriShadow

07-22-2009, 08:11 PM

Waaaaaaay too much Aurthur. His fail continues as he abandons his people and then most of the episode is spent on him and Ogam. I guess that was supposed to be character growth but it was incredibly crappy character growth (he realized he and Arawn were friends. Wow, what an amazing revelation) for a very annoying and uninteresting character. He's so far gone at this point that they really can't do anything to make me give a damn about him.

The episode did have a few redeeming features though. Riannon finally got to show that strength she showed back in episode one, before she was quickly reduced to a secondary character that did little aside from fawning over Arawn. Llyr entertained me for the first time since her introduction in her teamwork with Rathty. And she gives us the Rathty Missile, by far the best part of the episode, so she gets points for that.

William K

07-22-2009, 08:20 PM

The episode did have a few redeeming features though. Riannon finally got to show that strength she showed back in episode one, before she was quickly reduced to a secondary character that did little aside from fawning over Arawn. Llyr entertained me for the first time since her introduction in her teamwork with Rathty. And she gives us the Rathty Missile, by far the best part of the episode, so she gets points for that.

Riannon does make a very unlikely general and the Rathty Missile part was hilarious. And I loved the Octavia/Morgan scenes. The Ogam revelation was surprising though. Didn't see that one coming at all! Next episode looks to have even more combat.

HitokiriShadow

07-22-2009, 08:51 PM

The Ogam revelation was surprising though. Didn't see that one coming at all!

I always figured he had to have some big secret, simply because he knew Arawn personally, which meant he had to be several hundred years old and thus not a normal human. As soon as he brought up dragons in this episode, I figured that had to be what he was.

untoldsorrow

07-22-2009, 08:51 PM

But yeah, Arthur needs to fuck off and die already. He adds nothing to story, other than useless whining and screwing shit up.

It's like the guy has dedicated his life to being a complete and utter moron. He's has a very narrow way of thinking. He relies too much on emotion. He also tends to prioritize the wrong things. Hence forth, the sooner he dies the better.

Thankfully Arawn is actually pretty cool, and the girls are fantastic <3

In some ways, they help to make up for the pain that Arthur causes. Arthur is trying his best to drag the show down. While they are trying their best to keep the showing decent.

I am actually having a lot of trouble deciding if I should continue watching this BECAUSE of Arthur. He is so damn annoying that it pisses me off. I don't know if the girls and Arawn is enough to get me through. I love the girls, especially Octavia but this asshole is ruining a otherwise fun show to watch.

malazar

07-22-2009, 09:08 PM

Llyr entertained me for the first time since her introduction in her teamwork with Rathty. And she gives us the Rathty Missile, by far the best part of the episode, so she gets points for that.

Yeah, Llyr does seem to just kinda be there. She is completely uninteresting to this point. Rathty did shine this episode with both the Rathty Missile and when she was doing flying hammer attacks on the siege towers.

Other than that, it was interesting to see just what Ogam's background was and what the source of his powers was.

The Arthur stuff was a yawner, but if the "shocking" revelation of him being friends with Arawn makes him get his crap together and be less annoying then that will be a pleasant change.

Suwako Moriya

07-22-2009, 09:59 PM

I am actually having a lot of trouble deciding if I should continue watching this BECAUSE of Arthur.

I get the feeling in my case, I'll probably end up letting a few episodes build up again, and perhaps in the future catch up. It's just too bad that Arthur feels dedicated to trying to ruin the series.

something

07-23-2009, 08:04 PM

Holy crap, three episodes behind? I swore this was one I was only one behind on... time to get cracking.

Episode 14:

- Woah there Morgan. have we seen her bare-shouldered before? And thrusting her breasts into our faces =P
- Also... the faces seem different in this episode.
- No, it's just the animation in general that feels different. Almost like there are less frames in the characters' movements. Hard to explain...
- Well the fighting bit didn't look bad. The art director for this episode is someone who hadn't done any of the previous episodes so maybe that's it. I don't know, it's not bad necessarily, it just feels so different. And now it's like there are more frames, some things were really fluid.
- And jeeze, those corpses were way more explicit than anything else this show has done.
- Ogre. Heh, damnit Arawn, remember these things! The fight here was, again, weird, but pretty cool. Nice blood splatter on Octavia. I'm just still not feeling these weird facial expressions.
- Flashback, with characters voiced by Riannon and Arthur's seiyuu. That can't mean anything!
- "What was their relationship?" Gay lovers, of course!
- ...Arawn is Judas?
- And he (and/or his comrades) maybe killed Arthur's father?
- Wow, sucks to be Gaius. They're sure quick about assuming his treason. But then they've been looking for a reason to get rid of him... lol if only he could join Arawn's harem too.
- RIANNON YOU ARE SO ADORABLE.

Well that was a somewhat odd episode, though enjoyable.

something

07-23-2009, 08:34 PM

Episode 15:

- Ah, it's the little girl (who is all sorts o Gotou Yuuko) and Arawn. And you can definitely tell the animation is back to how it was in eps 1-13.
- Oh how I love Rathty's giant hammer.
- So hey, that's where all those Gael corpses went.
- Poor Rathty and Llyr. =( Stupid gravitas-whatever!
- ...Where did this EXTREME fog come from anyway?
- "Oh btw I can just toast them all, but I'll only tell you this after you all tire yourselves out for an hour." :sd:
- lol, the demon king is casting an anti-undead purification spell?
- Octavia seems to be wondering the same thing. =P
- He has returned to us, as Arawn the White!
- Oh Arthur, you're so irritating. The dude in your flashback doesn't even have the same seiyuu! Duuuuuuh.
- And Arawn, maybe you could say something?
- Way to not lift a finger to stop him, everyone. At least Riannon didn't get the sword...
- Arthur you're such a loser.
- Oh good, Arawn isn't dead. If we had to leave the rest of the show up to Arthur... argh, hell no.

Well, not sure where I come down on this episode, but it was an interesting development I suppose. Next!

something

07-23-2009, 08:38 PM

But yeah, Arthur needs to fuck off and die already. He adds nothing to story, other than useless whining and screwing shit up.
Yeah he's... really bad. He just drags everything else down. The show is fun as hell until he suddenly gets his panties in a twist over something an goes all emo. He's just not adding anything, like you said. They could have done "did Arawn kill mah daddy?" drama with just Riannon (although I do like her as his defender). I know Arthur will be central to the story in some form, but I really feel like you could drop all the focus he's gotten and not have to alter the plot significantly.

Fencedude

07-23-2009, 08:50 PM

. I know Arthur will be central to the story in some form, but I really feel like you could drop all the focus he's gotten and not have to alter the plot significantly.

Removing Arthur would give us first warrior Morgan, which would be awesome.

something

07-23-2009, 09:08 PM

Episode 16:

- Suddenly, in the middle of a siege. o_O
- You go Riannon! <3
- Ummm, Ogam seemed kinda... suspicious...
- Holy shit Rathty and Llyr! RATHTY BOMB!!! And Riannon is looooooove. If it weren't for BLAHBLAHPLOT you so would not need Arthur at all. <3
- Another Ogam? Or... we jumped ahead a day or so and he's made it to Arawn's tomb? Is that what he wanted four days for?
- Arthur is saying he's willing to die! Someone PLEASE take him up on the offer!
- Bwhaha, Ogam *is* a dragon? That's hilarious.
- Definitely a difference in the art again, mostly on Arthur's face.
- Ahahaha, Morgan! <3 lol wtf Morgan and Octavia? Just have the senior warriors abandon camp, I'm sure the grunts won't freak when they find their chain of command has vanished. :sd:
- Haha, what? Did Arthur really just now turn around and see "O hey, AVALON IN FLAMES!"?
- Enough talking, just transform into a dragon and fuck the Empire up, Ogam! Though it's nice to hear him basically tell Arthur "Everything you believe in in bullshit."
- lol whaaaaaaat? Suddenly it's nighttime and we're surrounded by angry pig men. :sd:
- Morgan and Octavia <3
- Yay decapitations?
- AND NOW, GIANT ROBOTS.
- Ahahaha! Yes! Dragon Ogam!! Oh god, I have no idea what the fuck is going on in this show anymore.
- MORGAN! <3 And the enemy realizes that she's not quite in standard military uniform...
- RATHTY FUCKING MISSILE OH My GOD YESSSS!!!! Oh my god, that plus FEMALE WARRIORS plus WAR GODDESS RIANNON = BEST SCENE OF THE SHOW!
- "Riannon's leadership is second only to Arthur." Uh, no, I'm pretty sure she's a thousand times better than that nitwit.

Whoooo boy, Arthur still bores me to tears but that was possibly the best episode of the show.

07-23-2009, 10:33 PM

I'm guessing that, judging by the way Arthur seemed to be in a trance, all of his actions will be excused under the pretense that he was being controlled by somebody's spell or some other easy excuse along those lines. I'm pretty much over him by now, marking his appearances as the show's mandatory emo time.

Fencedude

07-24-2009, 09:57 AM

FUCK YEAH RATHTY MISSILE!!!!!!!!!!!

Also Morgan and Octavia are utterly fantastic together.

Suwako Moriya

07-24-2009, 11:02 AM

FUCK YEAH RATHTY MISSILE!!!!!!!!!!!

No other missile can compare to the one that Llyr decided to use this episode.

Also Morgan and Octavia are utterly fantastic together.

Those two might as well be married. Well, in my world they are.

Suwako Moriya

07-24-2009, 11:08 AM

"Riannon's leadership is second only to Arthur." Uh, no, I'm pretty sure she's a thousand times better than that nitwit.

Of course, Arthur being jealous of his superior sister plans to return to battle in order to steal the glory.

Speaking of Riannon, it's so nice that allowing her to be awesome. As opposed to reducing her to a cheerleader like some series would.

untoldsorrow

07-24-2009, 12:00 PM

Speaking of Riannon, it's so nice that allowing her to be awesome. As opposed to reducing her to a cheerleader like some series would.

Someone has to step up because we all know Arther isnt.

something

07-24-2009, 02:16 PM

Of course, Arthur being jealous of his superior sister plans to return to battle in order to steal the glory.
Yeah, not looking forward to that. ;_; Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll at least allow Riannon the chance to share the spotlight equally.

The weird thing about how Riannon is depicted is that we know she's always right there on the front lines no matter how vicious the battle is, and yet... we don't see her fight. In 15 we got a quick shot of her blowing some zombies away with a spell, but it's really rare to get anything from her. But you know she has to be fighting, she's right there.

Draneor

07-24-2009, 02:25 PM

The weird thing about how Riannon is depicted is that we know she's always right there on the front lines no matter how vicious the battle is, and yet... we don't see her fight.

Riannon is a healer. So while she may have some offensive holy magic, she isn't the magical powerhouse Ogam is. I suspect the bulk of her magic would be spent after the battle.

William K

07-27-2009, 04:23 AM

Lots of time spent in Arawn's subconsciousness in this episode. We find out the little girl is called Primula and that Arawn's father is Myrrdin?? Also some interesting stuff about the Gold, Silver and Bronze ages of humans. The Silver Age tsunami flashback seems to be hinting Atlantis.

The girls all get some nice action scenes as they defend Avalon ( love the Lyr bounce :P ) but in the end they are forced to retreat to the inner wall by the sheer number of the enemy. Speaking of the enemy, Gaius is finally rebelling against the Empire, although he wants to crush Avalon first before attempting to overthrow the Senate back home.

And yeah, there is quite a bit of Arthur time though it is tempered by some Taliesin, and if he can get the Brigantes to help repel the Empire, he'll have served his purpose.

No idea what happened to Ogam and the Gundams...errr...Electrum Golems he was fighting against. From the OP animation, it seemed like the Golems were fighting along with the Gaels.

07-27-2009, 04:52 PM

Rathty missile is probably the best thing in this show so far. I was pretty impressed at the visuals this episode, they really went all out on Arthur's scene against those pig goblin things. You don't see that quasi first person perspective that often either. Usually the pacing and camera work in scenes like that aren't enough to really draw you in because of budget limitations, but when he put his sword right through one of their open mouths I was wincing thinking that's just gotta hurt. In other words drawn into the fight pretty much completely. Arthur is still a tool, but at least he was involved in something interesting this time.

something

07-27-2009, 07:17 PM

Episode 17:

- Oh hey, Mini-Riannon has a name. Primula (or whatever the spelling should be). P.S., I have no idea what's going on.
- Rathtyyyyyyyy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Oh no! The apples! ...This is the most laid-back bucket brigade ever.
- Haha, Arthur falls on his face. Loser.
- Gaius plans to start a revolution! He should just join Arawn.
- You talk too much, Arthur.
- Huge skilled armed forces hiding out in the woods waiting to turn the tide of battle are always so convenient.

Well that was pretty good, even with all the Arthur.

Fencedude

07-27-2009, 07:17 PM

Amazing, Arthur managed to not be a tool for an entire episode.

Also Primula is adorable <3

HitokiriShadow

07-27-2009, 11:13 PM

Well, that kills my theory on Myrrdin or whatever his name is. Oh well, at least we have a Primula's name now.

Somehow "Arawn is my friend!" leads to "Hey, blindly following all these stupid duties is stupid" and realizing this magically makes him less of an idiot and gives him some sort of leaderly aura.... which has jack squat to stabbing your leader in the chest and abandoning your people. Aurthur has some of the most retarded character development I've ever seen. At least he wasn't an obnoxious twat.

William K

08-02-2009, 12:09 PM

Wow, amazing way to start an episode. Morgan and Octavia forever!

Lots of combat and blood in the episode. Arawn wakes up but doesn't really do much except vaporizing the giant ram in one shot, leaving Arthur and Gaius to fight it out with kinda expected results.

And in the aftermath, the final boss(es?) appears!

08-04-2009, 07:07 PM

Watching Arthur land flat on his face after falling down the hill was definitely the highlight of the episode. That and seeing Rathty obliterate seige towers with a single hammer swing. I couldn't help but think what a shame it was to see the castle walls being blasted up so much. My love of old architecture made that a bit painful to watch.

something

08-04-2009, 08:24 PM

Episode 18:

- Matching necklaces! Marriage! ...HANDS ARE TOUCHING!!
- Hand holding gets the sponsor screen too =D
- So yeah Ogam, why not just turn into a dragon? You could lay waste to the entire Imperial army in about two minutes... Oh well, characters that strong always have some sort of reason why they can't just do the obvious thing.
- Llyr is a firefighter! And I can never remember Epona's name until someone says it. I keep thinking of the horse in Zelda...
- Oh Morgan you are entirely too hot. Morgan and Octavia! The Female Warriors' Last Stand! But no baked apples =(
- Stop talking and start killing, Arthur.
- Ahahahah! Fuck yes Awarn shows the kid how it's done. =D
- Oh wow, now that was pretty cool. Arawn and Riannon had absolutely no fear of Gaius whatsoever, and then Arthus actually has some pretty good timing for once. It all came together so nicely.
- But Octavia and Morgan still make the beat team! <3 Man, there's something particularly awesome about watching skilled archers fight close up in a primarily melee battle. Something about the movements and always getting the shot off at the last possible moment, and the sheer strangeness of seeing a ranged weapon kill from mere feet. All the better if their beautiful lesbian swordswomen wife is providing backup!
- ...Damnit Ogam is so badass.
- Well that was interesting. Usually in fights all the debris that flys around is treated as if it never hits anyone, but Arthur just got bonked on the head from a stone stirred up by Gaius. I also like Gaius' Me Have Big Sword fighting style.
- Boy you take a long time to die, Gaius, but you're pretty awesome so it's okay.

Ahahaha, wow, how over the top villianous is that dude? :sd: Clearly not the final boss!

LKK

08-04-2009, 09:18 PM

Episode 18:
- So yeah Ogam, why not just turn into a dragon? You could lay waste to the entire Imperial army in about two minutes... Oh well, characters that strong always have some sort of reason why they can't just do the obvious thing.
Do you remember the episode where they fought Gael warrior zombies? Ogam was going to use his special magic then, but Arawn stopped him because once Ogam used his powers, he had a long wait (of unstated time) before he could use his powers again. That's probably the reason why Ogam couldn't turn into a dragon again and lay waste to the Empire's army. I assume it was too soon after the last time Ogam went dragon mode.

something

08-04-2009, 09:22 PM

Do you remember the episode where they fought Gael warrior zombies? Ogam was going to use his special magic then, but Arawn stopped him because once Ogam used his powers, he had a long wait (of unstated time) before he could use his powers again. That's probably the reason why Ogam couldn't turn into a dragon again and lay waste to the Empire's army. I assume it was too soon after the last time Ogam went dragon mode.
Ah right, makes sense. Then again I doubt he'd have done it anyway. Gotta give the mortals their time to shine, I guess =P

HitokiriShadow

08-04-2009, 09:39 PM

Morgan x Octavia! And they weren't terribly subtle about it; its hard not to read that the way I want to read it. The ultimate female warriors! Yeah, they definitely won this episode.

Gaius had the potential to be an decently interesting character (relative to the rest of the cast in this series anyway) and even recently it looked like they might do something interesting with him. But no, they just kill him off so he can give a boring and long-winded death speech.

William K

08-04-2009, 09:49 PM

Morgan x Octavia! And they weren't terribly subtle about it; its hard not to read that the way I want to read it. The ultimate female warriors! Yeah, they definitely won this episode.

Is it wrong that the whole episode I was just waiting for Octavia to say "We might die tomorrow, so let's spend the whole day having hot lesbian sex?"

Fencedude

08-04-2009, 09:54 PM

OCTAVIA AND MORGAN GOT MARRIED!

Oh yeah and Arthur did some stuff.

Edit: *watches preview* So wait, is Rathty's gender finally going to be a plot point?

Suwako Moriya

08-05-2009, 04:13 AM

Speaking of the enemy, Gaius is finally rebelling against the Empire, although he wants to crush Avalon first before attempting to overthrow the Senate back home.

So even with a new found purpose, he still has his priorities.:sweat:

Suwako Moriya

08-05-2009, 04:15 AM

Also Primula is adorable <3

Yes, she is. On a side note, aside from this and Shuffle, I can't think of any other girl named Primula.

Suwako Moriya

08-05-2009, 05:00 AM

OCTAVIA AND MORGAN GOT MARRIED

Hence forth making it the most important moment in the series. So far anyway.

*watches preview* So wait, is Rathty's gender finally going to be a plot point?

Hopefully that's the case. I'm surprised it's taking this long. Usually we're told what we already know much earlier.

something

08-05-2009, 06:39 AM

Hopefully that's the case. I'm surprised it's taking this long. Usually we're told what we already know much earlier.
The fact that this has not yet come up reveals a critical flaw in TtT: We have not had any bathing, onsen, or beach scenes yet! ;_;

Suwako Moriya

08-05-2009, 07:05 AM

The fact that this has not yet come up reveals a critical flaw in TtT: We have not had any bathing, onsen, or beach scenes yet! ;_;

That's probably because they decided that Arthur angst and reminding us that he's special was far more important. That and they needed plenty of time for Gaius to die.

Fencedude

08-08-2009, 04:16 PM

Oh well, at least we have a Primula's name now.

I was watching the Blu-Ray version of episode 1, and I had a thought. Remember how Drwc asked Riannon for the name that was the "source of her power"? How much you want to bet that that name is "Primula"?

Suwako Moriya

08-08-2009, 04:41 PM

I was watching the Blu-Ray version of episode 1, and I had a thought. Remember how Drwc asked Riannon for the name that was the "source of her power"? How much you want to bet that that name is "Primula"?

I'm not sure if I'll take that bet, but I do think it would be pretty awesome if it did turn out that Primula was her "magic" name. In general, I just want to know what her name is. Be it Primula or otherwise.

On a side note, this discussion about "names" just reminded me about a certain game I played awhile ago involving the idea of some of the characters having two names.

Then again there are some characters that have a lot of names. Including one that I'm very fond of.

08-08-2009, 05:45 PM

How much you want to bet that that name is "Primula"?

Assuming they re-visit the issue I would bet you are right. Shows like this tend to start little plot threads like these and forget about them so who knows if Drwc's question has any deeper meaning or not.

Fencedude

08-12-2009, 08:37 PM

William K

08-12-2009, 09:46 PM

Well, I guess that was Epona, not Rathty. Though the new ED basically confirms her as a girl regardless, in case there was any doubt.

Also lots of Taliesin, who is pretty meh. So whatever.

...but seriously, Epona? Really?

Well, just because she likes money doesn't mean she can't also sing during full moons :)

I like the new ending art and the way they pair up Morgan/Octavia but the song is just so-so. Maybe it might get better after repeated listens, but no way it matches "Blue Sky, True Sky"

From the preview, it looks like everything that happened between Arawn, Myrddin, Pwyll and Primula will be explained finally in the next episode.

Fencedude

08-12-2009, 09:51 PM

I like the new ending art and the way they pair up Morgan/Octavia but the song is just so-so. Maybe it might get better after repeated listens, but no way it matches "Blue Sky, True Sky"

They also conveniently paired up Llyr/Rathty and Limwris/Ermin

And yes, the song is...forgettable.

HitokiriShadow

08-12-2009, 10:55 PM

Hah? Taliesin x Epona? That came out of nowhere and its a rather strange pairing.

Looks like we should learn some interesting stuff next episode.

Oh, and I think Limwris just tripped a death flag.

And we get a new ED sequence at episode 19. It's strange how this kind of thing isn't that rare anymore.

Fencedude

08-12-2009, 10:57 PM

Oh, and I think Limwris just tripped a death flag.

Or worse, they could try to hook her up with Arthur!

HitokiriShadow

08-12-2009, 11:09 PM

Oh, and I think Limwris just tripped a death flag.

Or worse, they could try to hook her up with Arthur!

....I can see that happening.

They've strangely made no effort at all to pair Arthur with anyone yet. At this point, Arthur X Riannon and Arthur x Arawn (ick) are the most plausible pairings for him. So I can see them shoehorning in Arthur x Limwris at the last minute, because there aren't any other pairings that make any sense for him that they would actually go with. Though since they pulled Taliesin x Epon out like this, they could pair Arthur up with almost anyone.

Actually, they'll probably just pull the "Not Blood Related" thing and stick him with Riannon.

William K

08-12-2009, 11:35 PM

They've strangely made no effort at all to pair Arthur with anyone yet. At this point, Arthur X Riannon and Arthur x Arawn (ick) are the most plausible pairings for him. So I can see them shoehorning in Arthur x Limwris at the last minute, because there aren't any other pairings that make any sense for him that they would actually go with. Though since they pulled Taliesin x Epon out like this, they could pair Arthur up with almost anyone.

Actually, they'll probably just pull the "Not Blood Related" thing and stick him with Riannon.

The thought that I had during the Avalon siege was Arthur x Taliesin actually :P

Draneor

08-13-2009, 08:03 AM

Hah? Taliesin x Epona? That came out of nowhere and its a rather strange pairing.

Taliesin has a fetish for elves. The anime briefly had the scene at the end of a previous episode where Taliesin hugs Epona out of nowhere, but did not elaborate on it.

Actually, they'll probably just pull the "Not Blood Related" thing and stick him with Riannon.

Riannon's already married to Arwan (since episode two).

HitokiriShadow

08-13-2009, 09:05 AM

Actually, they'll probably just pull the "Not Blood Related" thing and stick him with Riannon.

Riannon's already married to Arwan (since episode two).

Death tends to nullify marriages.

LKK

08-13-2009, 09:09 AM

Hah? Taliesin x Epona? That came out of nowhere and its a rather strange pairing.

Taliesin has a fetish for elves. The anime briefly had the scene at the end of a previous episode where Taliesin hugs Epona out of nowhere, but did not elaborate on it.
Yeah, it was Taliesin's hug in the earlier episode that came as the surprise to me. Episode 19 was the explanation for that earlier scene in the marketplace. I'm glad they took the time to follow-up on that.

Suwako Moriya

08-13-2009, 11:20 AM

Some fun moments, but I think the part that stood out was Riannon's voice change as she looked into the future. Oh, and I can't blame anyone for being interested in Epona.

Suwako Moriya

08-13-2009, 11:21 AM

I like the new ending art and the way they pair up Morgan/Octavia but the song is just so-so. They also conveniently paired up Llyr/Rathty and Limwris/Ermin

Great, now I'm imagining "Rathty Missile" as some sort of pet name.

something

08-16-2009, 01:24 AM

Episode 19:

- BLAH BLAH ARTHUR IS BORING. I only put up with you because you're Riannon's brother, damnit.
- With all these magic users, couldn't someone just magic up some flowers and city walls?
- So is Decimus joining the Arawn-gumi? I would have preferred Gaius but I guess it's hard to have two personalities as forceful as Arawn and Gaius on the same team.
- Another army of the dead approaches... wait, wasn't this supposed to be a swimsuit episode? Am I remembering wrong? :sd:
- Llyr and Rathty <3 PIE DETECTED!
- Haha, Taliesin violates Epona's cheeks and then launches wholly uninvited into a flashback.
- Ahahahaha, no, absolutely not. I do not buy that singing voice coming out of Epona, not one bit. Just as I was about to guess that Epona was the elf Taliesin they go and confirm it already.
- And a baby dragon? Do we have a mascot character all of a sudden? And... I thought dragons were seen as creatures of legend in this world. I must be forgetting something, because Taliesin doesnt seem surprised at all.
- Then stumbling into a big ass prison and getting a recording from (a pre-dead) Arawn?
- Or someone with voice named Lucifer. Arawn's old name?

New ED! I'll miss the first one but this one is nice for Morgan x Octavia, Ermin x Limwris and Llyr x Rathty.

But yeah this was decidedly not a beach episode. What show was I thinking of...

something

08-16-2009, 01:42 AM

something

08-16-2009, 01:43 AM

Hah? Taliesin x Epona? That came out of nowhere and its a rather strange pairing.
My main problem is that I can never remember that Epona is actually female.

LKK

08-16-2009, 10:25 AM

Episode 19:
- And a baby dragon? Do we have a mascot character all of a sudden? And... I thought dragons were seen as creatures of legend in this world. I must be forgetting something, because Taliesin doesnt seem surprised at all.
For no reason that I can explain, I've always felt that Taliesin (and by extension the Brigantes) knows more about the true history of this world than most humans. So I expected him to know that the existence of dragons was fact and not legend. Another possibility is that Arthur has told him that Ogam is a dragon, thereby confirming the dragons' reality.

But yeah this was decidedly not a beach episode. What show was I thinking of...
I kind of wondered that myself when you first mentioned a beach episode. :)

Westlo

08-16-2009, 11:04 AM

They've strangely made no effort at all to pair Arthur with anyone yet.
And that's definitely been one of the best things about this show. He's annoying enough, but being annoying AND a romantic interest for one of the awesome girls would be tragic.

Would've been a tragedy if they paired him with Octavia, at least while WHITE FOX sadly buried the most popular pairing from the games in ArawnxOctavia (Morgan and her are still good "friends" even with that pairing) they weren't silly enough to go and jump on its grave by pairing her with Arthur.. at least so far...

HitokiriShadow

08-16-2009, 05:28 PM

They've strangely made no effort at all to pair Arthur with anyone yet.
And that's definitely been one of the best things about this show. He's annoying enough, but being annoying AND a romantic interest for one of the awesome girls would be tragic.

At this point, Arthur X Riannon and Arthur x Arawn (ick) are the most plausible pairings for him.Hah, I'd prefer the latter if those were the options. That'd free Riannon up to form a threesome with Limwris and Ermin.

I'm certainly not at all disappointed at Arthur's single status, but it does seem strange since he seems like a character that would usually have some sort of romantic pairing. I wouldn't mind at all if he was involved with Limwris since I find her to be the dullest character in the cast and can barely remember she exists, but the threesome option would still be preferable to that. However, I would rage so hard if he somehow ended up with Morgan or Octavia.

William K

08-16-2009, 09:07 PM

I'm certainly not at all disappointed at Arthur's single status, but it does seem strange since he seems like a character that would usually have some sort of romantic pairing. I wouldn't mind at all if he was involved with Limwris since I find her to be the dullest character in the cast and can barely remember she exists, but the threesome option would still be preferable to that. However, I would rage so hard if he somehow ended up with Morgan or Octavia.

Since they are borrowing a lot from the Arthurian legends, he'll marry late and then Guinevere will fall for the handsome, younger Sir Lancelot.

Fencedude

08-16-2009, 09:10 PM

Since they are borrowing a lot from the Arthurian legends, he'll marry late and then Guinevere will fall for the handsome, younger Sir Lancelot.

The weird thing is, does that make Morgan, Moragana?

Fencedude

08-19-2009, 04:01 AM

Huh. That was actually pretty interesting.

It was a total mythology mashup, but still very cool.

Not much else to say otherwise, Arawn was kinda annoying when he was younger though.

LKK

08-19-2009, 09:39 AM

Not much else to say otherwise, Arawn was kinda annoying when he was younger though.
Young Arawn reminded me a lot of how Arthur was before the recent battle. The parallelism gives me hope that Arthur will mature as well. Whether we get to see Arthur's maturation in the series is another matter entirely.

HitokiriShadow

08-21-2009, 04:20 PM

So apparently the humans had some strange restrictions placed on them in addition to not knowing about fire. The fire part wasn't exactly surprising considering what was said about Myrrdin earlier in the series (Myrrdin=Prometheus).

something

08-23-2009, 01:54 AM

Episode 20:

- Ohhh yeah, this was going to be an infodump episode, wasn't it? Taleisin is about to learn the secrets of the universe and stuff.
- Looooots of backstory. Looooots of white. Also, Ogam!
- And this should be there they find Primula. So hurry up and get to it!
- Ah there. I'm sure sitting in a pile of rotting corpses does fabulous things to your psyche.
- Myrddin gets all Prometheus and then disappears.

Mmmm. Well. Okay. It was kinda interesting but it'd be nice if the backstory were worked into the show more naturally. It looks like next week we're back to fighting, so this is something of an odd interlude.

Still, if Primula is the only human left, how is she supposed to restart the race? And we've never seen her looking like anything but a little girl. Maybe they meant the only one left in that specific location.

Fencedude

08-23-2009, 02:02 AM

Still, if Primula is the only human left, how is she supposed to restart the race? And we've never seen her looking like anything but a little girl. Maybe they meant the only one left in that specific location.

I also somewhat failed to see what making a fire for her like that actually did, in the grand scheme of things.

Though I guess its Arawn's problem to deal with now, and he obviously dealt with it.

something

08-23-2009, 02:03 AM

William K

08-23-2009, 02:30 AM

I also somewhat failed to see what making a fire for her like that actually did, in the grand scheme of things.
Though I guess its Arawn's problem to deal with now, and he obviously dealt with it.
The fire, probably not much. His big fancy production after that, probably a lot. Kinda seems like he used his powers to break humanity out of its artificially imposed Ice Age.

Yeah, his song of Genesis ended the Ice Age and brought the 4 seasons back to Earth. Teaching humans about fire is probably symbolic in that it would make them be self-sufficient.

As to how the episode relates to the series, it is hinted that Myrddin didn't manage to finish his song, so the mountains are still covered with ice and snow. Taliesin is supposed to complete the song and perhaps sacrifice himself? That could be the 'doom' that he was talking about in the previous episode.

LKK

08-23-2009, 10:11 AM

Episode 20:
Still, if Primula is the only human left, how is she supposed to restart the race? And we've never seen her looking like anything but a little girl. Maybe they meant the only one left in that specific location.
The consensus elsewhere is that Primula was the last human in that one location. But that there are humans elsewhere. Earlier in the episode, the angels talked about humans that had been gathered and were still living in various camps. Presumably, some of these humans survived the end of the Ice Age.

something

08-29-2009, 01:08 AM

Episode 21:

- Still in the 12 Spirits flashback. Lucifer becomes the 12th after Myrddin's "death". It's pretty interesting to compare how naive and impressionable he's been in this whole flashback with how cynical and witty he is today.
- I had been wondering what the "minor adjustments" the Spirits made were. Seems it was to remove free will from humans. Primula is like a robot. ;_;
- But that's when Lucifer finally understands the corruption of the Spirits. And in the next scene, he's no longer that naive young man, he's totally the Arawn we know and love. He declares war!
- So he heads back down to earth, undoes the brainwashing, and gives Primula her name.
- Then Lucifer the White becomes Arawn the Black. And the flashback ends. We return to Taliesin.
- Meanwhile, outside, the manmade (or golem-made) avalanche plan is going into effect, and we get some short but pretty sweet action scenes as this happens. Unfortunately a clearly unnatural snowstorm literally freezes the avalanche in place, ruining this plan. They retreat... (Oh BTW the white spirit baddie has a ginormous army of like a million heavily armored creatures or some sort marching towards our heros...)
- ...and run into Taliesin. Who totally punches Arthur in the stomach and knocks him out! HAH! Oh god that was soooo satisfying.
- He sings the Song of Origin, unfreezes the avalanche, the huge enemy army is buried and he along with them. Bye bye Taliesin.
- blah blah shut up arthur
- Heh and back at Avalon Epona does her song of mourning. Briefest romance ever!

The best part of the episode was Arthur getting punched, but the rest wasn't bad either.

Next time, more flashbacks to Arawn's past? I'm not adverse to that but we're sure running out of time to beat up the bad guy.