Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood Discussion Thread.

[Westlo]

The season's big gun isn't far from airing so it's time for a thread.

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[Fencedude]

The season's big gun isn't far from airing [/B]

Eh? Queen's Blade aired two days ago!

...oh, I thought you said "big gunS"

[Westlo]

TAF Trailer + Message from Romi Paku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idfC61pVz4E&fmt=18

60 Sec CM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH9vs2QB2hY&fmt=22

Full versions of the OP and ED are also all over youtube, liking the OP though it seems a weird fit for an FMA OP, would've been better suited to an ED imo.

[Westlo]

The season's big gun isn't far from airing [/B]

Eh? Queen's Blade aired two days ago!

...oh, I thought you said "big gunS"

big isn't an adequate word for queens blade and you know it!

[Fencedude]

big isn't an adequate word for queens blade and you know it!

EXPLOSIVE!

[Critic Chris]

Two reasons I'll watch this: while I love the English dub of FMA to death, I have been interested in hearing the Japanese performances. This will give me an opportunity to do so. Also, while I'm not a big fan of the manga, maybe BONES can make it work for me in animated form. After all, there will no doubt still be some changes, right?

[Westlo]

After all, there will no doubt still be some changes, right?

Of course, while it's following the manga storyline it's not exactly going to be a 1:1 copy of it, too many manga chapters to do that... and the starting 1-2 episodes are anime original with Issac.

[Doom85]

After all, there will no doubt still be some changes, right?

Of course, while it's following the manga storyline it's not exactly going to be a 1:1 copy of it, too many manga chapters to do that... and the starting 1-2 episodes are anime original with Issac.

I suspect this will be the first BONES series to have a second season ("season" meaning 50-52 episodes). No way can they fully adapt what will probably be a 100-chapter 40-page manga in 50 episodes. At least I hope BONES is adapting the whole story, I thought the first anime's original ending was great, but deviating from the manga again would be redundant

[Westlo]

Off to a nice start! Animation is typical top notch Bones, action scenes were a treat, music is great and it was a nice introduction episode. Wasn't really a fan of the OP song but the parts they chopped up for the OP sequence worked and it's probably my fav OP of the season so far. Liked Kimberly's new voice, still a bit iffy on Mustang and Lust sounds way to close to Grace O Connor from Macross Frontier lol. Also... ARMSTRONG IS AWESOME!!!

Subs just came out too, guess I'll watch this again after it dls.

[LordGeo]

I will agree that it was a fun episode... But it was just weird how BONES decided to start this new adaptation off with filler, which kind of changes the flow of the story slightly (for exmaple, Hughes and Kimblee were introduced really early on). I did like how it tied into the start of the actual story, though, with the prologue of the whole Lior incident

I almost feel like saying that FMA: Brotherhood is like the Gungrave anime in that you could probably skip the 1st episode, since it's not really the best way to start off for new viewers... But the way that it introduces characters kind of ruins that idea.

[leongsh]

Off to a nice start! Animation is typical top notch Bones, action scenes were a treat, music is great and it was a nice introduction episode.
Agreed that it's a very nice start. The care and attention given is very good - with the huge amount of money invested in this reboot series, it's good to know that the money is not wasted. They know they have a a built-in major audience for this and is a winning start for the fans of FMA.

Looking forward to the rest of the series.

[Vegard Aune]

And so, the new, "closer-to-the-manga"-version of FMA begins... with an anime original episode:sweat:.
It was a good one, though. For a minute, I was thinking that they went and mentioned too much stuff without actually explaining what they meant about it, but then again, it's not like the manga explained everything right away either, so it's fine.
Anyway, I also want to mention that I'm completely addicted to the new opening already.

[Leon_Belmont]

I will agree that it was a fun episode... But it was just weird how BONES decided to start this new adaptation off with filler, which kind of changes the flow of the story slightly (for exmaple, Hughes and Kimblee were introduced really early on). I did like how it tied into the start of the actual story, though, with the prologue of the whole Lior incident

I almost feel like saying that FMA: Brotherhood is like the Gungrave anime in that you could probably skip the 1st episode, since it's not really the best way to start off for new viewers... But the way that it introduces characters kind of ruins that idea.

I tend to think characters like these who would make sense to be around would be loitering around until the manga roles are adopted. The manga likely simply didn't have the entire cast created from the get-go. We'll probably continue to see Kimblee and Hughes in small doses as well as others with later roles who would likely be loitering around the setting. I caught another cameo already though this is no manga discussion so I won't go into detail.

Is it now confirmed that this is even a manga adaption though? The manga's kinda meh so I'm okay either way they take it, so long as it's good.

Good first episode though. Original but definitely well done and attention getting. Makes sense to start this way.

[something]

Should be interesting watching this with my first ever full viewing of the first FMA having been quite recently. Here goes.

Episode 1:

- Hmmmm, not sure where I stand on the OP. It's not bad, and it started getting really cool at parts, but it never really broke out into full swing like I kept thinking it was going to.
- Hughes~ Also, I knew Roy was sounding different, and apparently thats because it is indeed a different seiyuu. Looks like a number changed, I see someone different for Winry too.
- I have little to say, but I'm liking it so far. It's interesting to see where the two differ.
- wtf at the eyecatch English XD
- Armstrong! Ah one of my favorites.
- Well this is quite dramatic and impressive so far. Nice way to start the series off.
- And now an excuse to flashback to the failed human transmutation scene.
- Heh I think I'm liking this voice for Roy.
- Nice switch into black and white.
- Ah so Lior is next.

...lol ED

Good start. Looks like mostly backstory next time.

[Fencedude]

lol Roy is Shinichiro Miki and Hughes is Fujiwara Keiji, thats HILARIOUS

Anyway, good start, and Lust is FUCKING GRACE

[TheGreenMan]

I don't understand. Is this series a reboot, a retelling of the original show?

[something]

I don't understand. Is this series a reboot, a retelling of the original show?
This series assumes the original anime does not exist.

They're just rebooting it and, presumably, following the manga more closely. We won't know for sure until we get to about the halfway point where it really diverged.

[Doom85]

I don't understand. Is this series a reboot, a retelling of the original show?
This series assumes the original anime does not exist.

They're just rebooting it and, presumably, following the manga more closely. We won't know for sure until we get to about the halfway point where it really diverged.

Well, they seem to be hinting at future developments that occur in the manga. Two times throughout the episode you see flashes of (manga spoilers!) Father, and the filler villain seemed to know information that won't be revealed to the audience until much later on (I'd smack Ed for not giving Issac a chance to speak, but considering Issac was acting like a murderous lunatic, I can't blame him). Nice bit of foreshadowing by BONES there. And I like how this is starting, FMA, despite being my favorite manga, did have a shaky start (hence why I slightly prefer the first anime, because it did the earlier parts of the story much better), so it'll be interesting to see if BONES takes steps to improve it. I was hearing people fearing they were going to rush the early part of the story, but this episode seemed to be more of a setting the stage/foreshadowing events to come. I can't see them rushing, considering next week will apparently be mostly the flashback of the Elrics' childhood.

[Ty]

- Hmmmm, not sure where I stand on the OP. It's not bad, and it started getting really cool at parts, but it never really broke out into full swing like I kept thinking it was going to.

I have really liked all the stuff Yui has done for Bleach, but this one felt a little off. It seemed to trip over its own pace in places, but I still liked it overall. For being so young the singer has a very strong voice. I think she was like 13 or 14 or something when she belted out Rolling Star for Bleach a couple of years ago.


Also, I knew Roy was sounding different, and apparently thats because it is indeed a different seiyuu.

The new VA doesn't work IMO. It makes Roy sound to suave for lack of a better term. I generally don't get all up in arms over voice changes, but I could tell right away this wasn't a good switch.

Overall, it's FMA so what can I say about the episode itself? It's a good series that I've always enjoyed, but for some reason I can't really work up any excitement to watch it right now. It dawned on me while I was watching this that Funimation is likely going to be releasing this on BluRay probably before the end of the year, and I've really been wanting to get back to watching some shows "fresh" on the HT setup instead of having seen everything second hand when I purchase and watch. So I think I'll just drop this and wait for the better presentation of it since I know I will be buying it. I feel that way about quite a few shows this season actually, but you can never be certain what will or will not come over these days. Since FMA is already locked in I can at least follow through on my intention with this show and not have to worry about it.

[beatmania]

I don't understand. Is this series a reboot, a retelling of the original show?
This series assumes the original anime does not exist.

They're just rebooting it and, presumably, following the manga more closely. We won't know for sure until we get to about the halfway point where it really diverged.

Oh ... now I'm not that interested in continuing watching it. I thought it would be new material :(

[Ty]

Oh ... now I'm not that interested in continuing watching it. I thought it would be new material :(

There will be new material, especially later on where the original series completely split off from the manga storyline. Up to a certain point it is bound to be familiar to some extent, but eventually we're going to see a different path taken that follows the manga which is the whole reason they are doing the new series in the first place.

[something]

Oh ... now I'm not that interested in continuing watching it. I thought it would be new material :(
It largely will be. Episode one already is.

I imagine we're going to have a stretch coming up with very familiar material, but I have no doubt they'll take a fresh look at it, as well as use the earlier sections to hint at things to come in the second half that'll be completely new.

[Leon_Belmont]

I don't understand. Is this series a reboot, a retelling of the original show?
This series assumes the original anime does not exist.

They're just rebooting it and, presumably, following the manga more closely. We won't know for sure until we get to about the halfway point where it really diverged.

Oh ... now I'm not that interested in continuing watching it. I thought it would be new material :(

This is probably why they decided on this original 1st episode to begin with. The first half of the original anime was fairly faithful to the manga, so starting at Lior might have caused some viewers to bail. The slightly altered animation style also feels a bit more in keeping with the tone in the manga.

I'd imagine they'll have to add some deviations or foreshadowing of the later deviations to the first 20-30 episodes of the series so that viewers don't feel like it's the same thing over again.

[something]

This is probably why they decided on this original 1st episode to begin with. The first half of the original anime was fairly faithful to the manga, so starting at Lior might have caused some viewers to bail.
Yeah, I think starting as they did here (with an original story) was a fantastic choice. I already feel like I'm watching a new show, even if that feeling will probably fade for a while in the near future.

[oslapedo]

I thought this was a great way to start off the series! It may be filler but there was plenty of foreboding on the evils of the military going on. Especially with the Fuhrer! GAH! I can't wait to see the Xing people animated.

If we could just skip right ahead to the Greed arc after a few episodes then we'd hit the part where the first anime series divulged from the manga 8D

They crammed so many pseudo spoiler-y parts in the opening... I wonder how long this OP'll last.

[Westlo]

They crammed so many pseudo spoiler-y parts in the opening... I wonder how long this OP'll last.

I'll be shocked if we don't have new op/eds every cour considering they use this time slot (and the one it use to be in on Sats) as a vehicle to push cd singles.

[DeadlyMessiah]

I am very confused. I thought the first episode was great, especially for animation, but what is the point of this when the manga is not even finished yet? I mean all we are going to get is another Bleach or Naruto, a long as hell series full of fillers. Hell, even the first episode was nothing but filler.

[something]

I mean all we are going to get is another Bleach or Naruto, a long as hell series full of fillers.
You have not the slightest clue what you're talking about. It won't be even remotely comparable to Bleach or Naruto. And your use of "filler" is amusing, since the expectation is that this series will be much closer to the manga than the first one.

[bobma]

I am very confused. I thought the first episode was great, especially for animation, but what is the point of this when the manga is not even finished yet? I mean all we are going to get is another Bleach or Naruto, a long as hell series full of fillers. Hell, even the first episode was nothing but filler.

Plotwise, the manga is currently pretty much in endgame territory. Additionally, it's at chapter 93 and apparently Arakawa has stated that she doesn't intend to go far beyond chapter 100. This means the manga will probably finish before the new anime series can catch up.

[strangefour]

Two reasons I'll watch this: while I love the English dub of FMA to death, I have been interested in hearing the Japanese performances.

Yeah I love the English dub too. I remember stopping watching the last FMA anime around episode 10 because I was tired of the "little loli in a bucket down a well" voice Alphonse had. But AL doesn't seem to sound as bad to me here, yet.

- Hmmmm, not sure where I stand on the OP. It's not bad, and it started getting really cool at parts, but it never really broke out into full swing like I kept thinking it was going to.
- Hughes~ Also, I knew Roy was sounding different, and apparently thats because it is indeed a different seiyuu. Looks like a number changed, I see someone different for Winry too.
- wtf at the eyecatch English XD
...lol ED


-The Op does seem a bit average to me. Not bad but not great.
-It's hard to express just how happy I was to see Maes Hughes again. Please tell me how cute Alicia is. Show me more pictures. *sigh*
-The english Eyecatch was odd. It kind of sounded like a loading screen in a fighting game. *shrug*
-The ending is perfectly adorable. It would be a better counter balance if the OP had some awesome in it. But cute little doodle Winry is adorable.

Just seeing a new FMA episode has a kind of nostalgia to it. I've always liked the show. Just never bought the origional series (I really disliked the ending). So I am filled with hope and joy for this version. Though most of me is just wondering if they will get everyone back for the dub (well I can live without Armstrongs dub, I don't like Sabat).

[HitokiriShadow]

Very interesting way to start things off. One of the concerns leading up to the airing was the issue of going through a bunch of material that was already animated (albeit with some differences as the first series changed some of the details and exactly how things played out). So this is how they are handling it: by doing some of it in a different way. So in the process of being more faithful to the manga, they will, ironically, change up some of it to present necessary information in a different way. More importantly, this episode makes it clear that things will be different from the original in some ways, particularly to anyone who has read at least some of the manga (I read up to about volume 12 a while back but I haven't read any of it recently).

Good episode overall, but I had two annoyances. The first one is a returning issue from the first series: Ed's "I'm not short stick". Its not funny and it never was. I hope they keep that to a minimum. Actually, a lot of Hiromu Arakawa's humor kind of sucks.

Also, I didn't like the voices saying "Fullmetal Alchemist" during the eyecatches, but that's an exceedingly minor issue.

[HitokiriShadow]

They're just rebooting it and, presumably, following the manga more closely. We won't know for sure until we get to about the halfway point where it really diverged.

It think we'll hit new material by about episode 20 at the latest, but I can see it happening as early as the end of the first cour. The first half of the original series had a decent amount of inconsequential anime-only episodes to begin with as well as parts that could be condensed (For example, I think Liore might be doable in one episode as opposed to the original's two). From what I recall, the original series really padded the pre-State Alchemist flashbacks that followed Liore as well.

[oslapedo]

Actually, a lot of Hiromu Arakawa's humor kind of sucks.


I love her humor! I was actually thinking about how cool it'd be if some of the FMA 4koma got animated... :noodle:

[Critic Chris]

They're just rebooting it and, presumably, following the manga more closely. We won't know for sure until we get to about the halfway point where it really diverged.

It think we'll hit new material by about episode 20 at the latest, but I can see it happening as early as the end of the first cour. The first half of the original series had a decent amount of inconsequential anime-only episodes to begin with as well as parts that could be condensed (For example, I think Liore might be doable in one episode as opposed to the original's two). From what I recall, the original series really padded the pre-State Alchemist flashbacks that followed Liore as well.

I wouldn't say that the original's first half was "padded" or "inconsequential". It added characters such as Hughes earlier on so that we got to know him better, as well as leaving certain characters alive (Shou Tucker) so they could have an impact on future events.

[DeadlyMessiah]

You have not the slightest clue what you're talking about. It won't be even remotely comparable to Bleach or Naruto. And your use of "filler" is amusing, since the expectation is that this series will be much closer to the manga than the first one.

How far could the first anime series have strayed from the manga though, other than creating its own ending (which I personally had no issue with)?

This feels like they are just cashing in on the name FMA because it is still a popular property.

[Vegard Aune]

How far could the first anime series have strayed from the manga though, other than creating its own ending (which I personally had no issue with)?
Let me put it like this; After Lab 5, the anime more or less stopped following the manga completely, and even before that, they were still quite different in how certain things played out. (Like the State Alchemist exam, which was completely different in the manga.)

[Takato]

Good episode overall, but I had two annoyances. The first one is a returning issue from the first series: Ed's "I'm not short stick". Its not funny and it never was. I hope they keep that to a minimum. Actually, a lot of Hiromu Arakawa's humor kind of sucks.

I personally love Arakawa's humor and I always liked seeing the creative ways they kept coming up with how to make fun of Ed's height and I love her omakes.

How far could the first anime series have strayed from the manga though, other than creating its own ending (which I personally had no issue with)? I'd say it was pretty significant. Some characters who die in the anime don't die in the manga and vice versa (I wasn't sure if this would count as a spoiler, since I didn't mention any specifics, but I wanted to be safe). Other characters like the Homunuculi have completely different roles, especially Greed. Some of the Homunculi are entirely different characters like Sloth and Wrath, so already you know those storylines are drastically different. Lyra and Dante aren't in the original manga, so that storyline isn't there and there are other characters who only appear in the manga, like the people from Xing. Comparing the original FMA anime to the manga is like comparing the Sailor Moon anime to the manga. Like in Sailor Moon, the first couple of episodes start off similar to the manga, but even in those episodes there are some major differences in how they plan out. I think the way to look at the new FMA anime is that it's sort of like the FMA version of PGSM. Like how PGSM stayed more faithful to the manga but had its own original storylines and characters, too.

As for my thoughts, I enjoyed the episode as a whole. It was really exciting and they had a lot of kickass action scenes. I also enjoyed seeing Hughes back again and I'm glad the series still hasn't run out of creative ways to make fun of Ed's height. The animation was pretty impressive too although it took awhile to get used to the new style as it looks different from the original series. I also loved the new musical score, especially the new opening and ending themes. I hope Funi will release the OST for this series when they do release it. The new character, Isaac, had some pretty cool powers, but he reminded me a bit too much of Scar in his motivations. In some ways, I have to say the original series had a better first episode. Even though it also threw you into the middle of the action, I thought the original series' first episode did a better job of introducing you to Ed and Al and introducing the viewer to what alchemy and the Philosopher's Stone is. I also loved how the first episode in the original series dealt more with philosophical themes instead of just action-oriented scenes whereas the first episode of the new series deals more with action scenes and throwing you into the middle of the whole Ishbal storyline. It's still a really enjoyable episode and worth watching. I just think the original series did a better job of introducing the viewer to the FMA universe but I'm still looking forward to seeing more of it. It was weird hearing most of the cast with completely different VAs though I enjoyed their performances, so I hope Funi will bring back the original English cast when they dub it. Did Kotono Mitsuishi return as Gracia or is her VA new too?

[HitokiriShadow]

I wouldn't say that the original's first half was "padded" or "inconsequential". It added characters such as Hughes earlier on so that we got to know him better, as well as leaving certain characters alive (Shou Tucker) so they could have an impact on future events.

I didn't mean everything was inconsequential, just certain episodes (like the one with the thief).

But yes, it was "padded" in that a number of things were added that were not there in the manga. That doesn't mean it was bad. It just means it is stuff that they likely won't bother with in the new series.

[Critic Chris]

I wouldn't say that the original's first half was "padded" or "inconsequential". It added characters such as Hughes earlier on so that we got to know him better, as well as leaving certain characters alive (Shou Tucker) so they could have an impact on future events.

I didn't mean everything was inconsequential, just certain episodes (like the one with the thief).

But yes, it was "padded" in that a number of things were added that were not there in the manga. That doesn't mean it was bad. It just means it is stuff that they likely won't bother with in the new series.

Oh, I see. And yeah, the Psiren episode was pretty fluffy, if very fun fluff.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Just watched episode 1 "Fullmetal Alchemist" over at Funimation.com. Not a bad start despite it was a completely different start from how both the manga and the original FMA series started. It seems like the first few episodes will act as a prolouge to the main storyline. The new character Issac was pretty good and a great counter to Roy. The animation itself was good looking for the most part and appers to be in HD. The oddest thiing was the eyecatches where they have a still shot of Ed then Al with a VO saying in english Fullmetal Alchemist. All in all I'd give the first episode of Brotherhood a solid B+.

[Chris Beveridge]

Off to a nice start! Animation is typical top notch Bones, action scenes were a treat, music is great and it was a nice introduction episode. Wasn't really a fan of the OP song but the parts they chopped up for the OP sequence worked and it's probably my fav OP of the season so far. Liked Kimberly's new voice, still a bit iffy on Mustang and Lust sounds way to close to Grace O Connor from Macross Frontier lol. Also... ARMSTRONG IS AWESOME!!!

Subs just came out too, guess I'll watch this again after it dls.

Just reviewed it myself... linky (http://www.mania.com/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-01_article_114297.html)

[Rolancehack]

for some weird reason, the episode stops 2 minutes short for me... Time to refresh and try again...

I hope crap like this this doesn't happen every week.

[ArcticMech]

Good episode overall, but I had two annoyances. The first one is a returning issue from the first series: Ed's "I'm not short stick". Its not funny and it never was. I hope they keep that to a minimum. Actually, a lot of Hiromu Arakawa's humor kind of sucks.


Funny, I didn't mind it at all and actually caught myself chuckling a little. Though part of it probably has to do with me not having watched the original in a long time. Hope it doesn't begin to wear too soon.


Also, I didn't like the voices saying "Fullmetal Alchemist" during the eyecatches, but that's an exceedingly minor issue.

That was a bit jarring and disrupted the flow, albeit temporarily - much like a speed bump.

Very enjoyable first episode. Solid on all fronts, but that was to be expected.

[Takato]

Oh, I see. And yeah, the Psiren episode was pretty fluffy, if very fun fluff.I thought that episode was hilarious in the English dub. "You'd think I'd be able to keep track of a seven foot suit of armor"

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Yeah that's one of my favorite episodes from the original series. The cop reminded me of Zenigata from Lupin the III. Especially the way he runs with his handcuffs above his head.

[Critic Chris]

Episode 1 Thoughts:
-The OP is pretty sweet, with nice visuals and music.
-I like that the character designs, while not completely different, are subtly so, and they're closer to the manga designs as well (not that the first anime's designs were bad at all). It's a signal that this will indeed be a (somewhat) different experience.
-Isaac may be an anime-only "filler" character, but he's interesting enough for our first antagonist, and his powers rock.
-HUGHES XD.
-Ah, the running gags again: People keep mistaking Al for Ed, and they keep calling him short.
-As always, BONES knows how to be both budget-conscious and impressive with their animation, especially in the action scenes.
-It's nice to see Al really kick some ass; he did that here and there in the original series, but rarely to this degree.
-ARMSTRONG YAY!
-Yay for requisite "transmutation flashback"!
-Nice to see that Bradley is just as hardcore and deceptively benign as ever.

Bring on the next episode!

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

I thought it was nice that Elicia Hughes got some screen time right off the bat. Next episode will see the return of Whinry Rockbell and Trisha Elric.

[Westlo]

While episode 1 was a nice start, episode 2 was definitely a big improvement. The transmutation scene to revive their mother felt a lot more intense and involving in this episode than the series one counterpart. I really liked the backgrounds shown throughout (Lior looked really nice) and the production values were still high, like in the short Ed and Al spar.

I honestly can't remember how Riza and Winry sounded in the original series but their vas sounded fine in this episode. Mustang's new VA grew on me this episode after being a bit jarring in the first. The music was a highlight of this episode, some very nice pieces played throughout.

Looking forward to seeing how they handle Lior and what comes after, especially episode 4... will be very hard to top the original season's version of that...

[Fencedude]

Not bad, not bad at all.

I seem to remember these events in the original series taking forever to play out.

[HitokiriShadow]

I seem to remember these events in the original series taking forever to play out.

I think the events from this episode took about three episodes to play out in the original series (one for Happy Life With Mom, tragedy, and trying to resurrect her, one to meet the teacher and begin training, one to meet Mustang and the do the examination, I think). I expect episode three to cover all of the Lior/Riore/whatever storyline, which the first series took about 2.5 episodes to cover. The first episode of this series effectively replaced the train hijack episode from the first series. By the end of episode 3, they will have probably have covered the equivalent of what took about 7 episodes in the first series.

[strangefour]

Good episode. Nice to see the history playing out a bit faster. A bit odd to see Mustang there at the Rockbell household near Winry at this point though. I wonder if the Lior stuff will also be condensed down to one episode.

[Takato]

I never thought the original series' flashback episodes took all that long to cover but I was impressed how they condensed it down to one episode given that in the manga, they had an entire volume devoted to flashbacks. I wonder if they'll animate the flashbacks of Izumi later on? Did they bring back Pinako's original Japanese VA for the new series? She had really powerful emotion in her voice and the scene where she gets pissed off at Roy is so much more moving than the original series. I agree that the scene of Ed and Al performing human transmutation is much more involving this time around but I thought the scene with the gate was better animated in the original series to be honest. Riza's new VA took awhile to get used to. I don't know if it was because this was a flashback, but her new VA somehow sounds younger to me.

My favorite scene was when Roy and Riza went to see the Elric brothers and Ed had this lifeless expression on his face and Al kept saying they were sorry. That scene made me cry in the manga and it still makes me cry in the anime. I also loved it when Roy said he saw fire in Ed's eyes with that expression on his face. And I thought that Ed's test on how to become a state alchemist played out better in the new series. In the original, it seemed like Ed just became a state alchemist because of an accident but in the new series, I like how he proves that he has the skills and guts to take on the Fuhrer. I also loved the new music in the series though I was saddened that the Bratja song is gone now. That scene of Ed and Al training wasn't the same without it. I was a little disappointed that they didn't animate the scene in the manga of the Elrics and Winry at school goofing off in class because they're too smart for it and the scene of Ed and Al crying at the funeral, but I really enjoyed this episode and I'm glad they're back with the manga storyline and I'm really looking forward to seeing how they handle the Lior storyline.

[Pachi]

Just watched Episode 2 on FUNi's video page. At first it felt a little weird to me how quickly they were moving through the flashback scenes, but then I remember that the manga goes through it at about that speed. It's probably just that the first series dragged things out so much that it feels faster now.

I noticed a mention of Xingese alchemy, which I heard clearly as "rentanjutsu" like in the manga, but FUNi's subs said something like "alkahestry". Has that translation been used anywhere before?

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Just finished episode 2 over at Funimation.com.

Good solid episode with a lot of manga cannon material mainly in the back story stuff. The death of Trisha did not have the same impact as in the first series since we did not really see her pass away this time. But since that's the way the manga did it it works great. The scene with Ed inside the door was terrific and the part with Winrey meeting Hawkeye was my favorite part. The only thing I didn't realy like was the character model for Winrey as a kid. Thankfuly when the flasback advanced to 6 years latter she looked a lot better. Can't wait for next week when they get back to the Liore storyline that was used to start the original series.

[Fencedude]

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[Pachi]

To the last three posters, please respond as requested in the first post of the thread, using the "Quote" button on one of the posts titled with the proper episode number, and not using the "Post Reply" button at the bottom of the page.

Oh, I didn't see that. Sorry.

I have to say, I really like how the series so far is managing to condense the material (at least, it feels sort of condensed) without making it feel too rushed. I'll also admit that I was a little concerned with the issue of accuracy to the manga after the 1st episode, but after seeing this episode I have much better faith in that. Save cutting of a couple scenes and the brief present day scenes, it felt almost exactly like they imposed the manga events onto a screen and directly animated them.

Edit: Ha, I think I might've been the first one to view the video on FUNi's page today. I loaded it earlier and the whole thing took like five minutes, and now it's running slow again.

[Classical]

I finally got to watching this today. It was a very interesting watch for me. I saw part of the first Full Metal Alchemist series, so I recognize most of the characters that show up in this first episode. I also understand some of alchemy related bits that showed up in it. Anways, now for some impressions.

-I just love it how Roy sends Ed and Al to do his dirty work. Nice to see that show up here.
-The OP animation is beautiful, but the song is okay.
-Al and Ed are after the Freezing Alchemist, Isaac. I have to admit, I like how he makes good use of water. Ed and Al capture Isaac but he manages to escape again.
-It's freaking hilarious how the military people think Al is the Fullmetal Alchemist and Ed gets ticked off when they confuse the two of them. I see Ed is still being made fun of his stature.
-Anyways, Ed and Al spend the night at some guy's house. I think it's really neat how the both of them get along so well as brothers. I hope you get your body back Al.
-It seems Isaac is very determined to lead a revolution. The guy is vicious and is as cold as ice.
-Military launches a full scale search for Isaac and Mustang joins in. Isaac is found and Armstrong tries to fight him. Big explosions ensue and clay heads go flying in the air!?
-Really, Isaac is rather clever with water.
-Anyways, Ed and Al track Isaac down. Isaac says something to tick Ed off, and Ed enters Berserk mode. That was some awesome Ed and Al teamwork there.
-Isaac runs off and winds up being killed by the man he was going after.
-By the end of the episode, it seems that Isaac *was* using a Philosopher's Stone.

Hmm, I admit the first few minutes that I was watching this it was hard to get a grasp of this new show, but afterward it was very fun to watch. Awesome episode, and awesome animation. Hope to watch episode 2 soon.

[Classical]

Wow, another good episode. It still a little early, but up to this point I've liked how the show has been handled. Even though I had seen some of the events that transpired in this episode in the previous series, the whole "transmutation" scene was still dramatic. Although, the whole Ed dream/hallucination/whatever sequence that transpired in this episode was something new to me. Ed and Al have already gone through some of the worst things imaginable, so I wonder what exactly it is that military members have gone through. Anyways, it was nice seeing Winry say that she was determined to support Ed and Al (though Al reacted kind of funny to her saying that).

The state alchemist test was amusing to watch, though it was kind of strange how Ed reacted upon hearing that his second name would be Fullmetal. He almost seemed evil or something. The ending sequence is an amusing watch, that's for sure.

[nakimushi]

So far so good, but I already miss Megumi Toyoguchi as Winry though. I thought she was great as Winry in the first series. Then again, I like all her performances.

However, I'll reserve judgment until after I hear Megumi Takamoto's voice when she is portraying Winry at the age she was in most of the first series. Here, I thought her voice was too "thin" and "weak" for such a strong character, but Winry was still very young in this episode, so it isn't an equal comparison yet.

Anyway, it isn't keeping me from enjoying the series.

[Fencedude]

Barreling right along, Lior is finished in a single episode.

Rose is now voiced (fantastically I might add) by Statsuki Yukino, and things play out basically the same as in the first series, only...a lot faster.

AND THEN FUCKING GRACE

(And next time...Tucker...)

[Classical]

Having experienced some of the episode's material previously, I didn't enjoy this episode as much as the first two episodes. That said, it was still an entertaining episode to watch. I'm still having fun with the whole bit where Al's mistaken for the Fullmetal Alchemist, and there were a few other comical moments as well. There was also a nice fight scene with Ed and a chimera.

[Takato]

It was interesting to see how episode 3 stayed closer to the manga in some ways but deviated from it in others. I loved the new scenes they added in that weren't in the manga. It helped give the episode a different experience than the original series had although I thought they could have had a better buildup to introducing Rose's character instead of just having her randomly meet Ed and Al. I thought it handled the deep philosophical themes very well and even though I had already seen this story before in the previous series and the manga, my heart was still beating hard from the excitement. It'll be interesting to see how the events play out in this new series in comparison to the previous anime and the manga.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Episode 3 was not bad.

This was the first episode that gave me that De Ja Vu feeling. Again some of the character models were just strange when compared to how they looked back in the old series. This time with Rose. She looked way too pale and weaker than she looked in the first show. The part with "Muntant Cornello" were done nicely. Love the pacing of the storlyline so far. They mangaed to tell the whole Liore storyline in one episode that took the first two to tell in the old show.

[Fencedude]

The Tucker and Nina event.

Fucking fuck fuck fuck

Also, Scar.

[Dagger]

The Tucker and Nina event.

Fucking fuck fuck fuck

Also, Scar.
I was so skeptical about how they would tackle the issue of presenting the same material in a single episode, but damn, it destroyed me all over again. Kudos, Bones.

[Consignia]

So, it seems that Basque Grand and Shou Tucker retained their original voice actors. Seems the only way to get a returing role in this anime, other than being Romi Paku or Rie Kugimiya, is to have voiced a character who gets killed off quickly.

I am enjoying this series, because hey, it's Fullmetal Alchemist. But I'm finding the episodes with already adapted material a bit of a slog. The next episode actually looks quite boring. I look forward to the new material.

[duckroll]

Seems the only way to get a returing role in this anime, other than being Romi Paku or Rie Kugimiya, is to have voiced a character who gets killed off quickly.

Or have a mustache. :)

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Anyone else getting episode 3 again when you try to watch episode 4 at Funimation.com?

[Delariean]

Anyone else getting episode 3 again when you try to watch episode 4 at Funimation.com?


I am....I'm gonna try again later and hopefully they will realize what's going on.....

[WTK]

Anyone else getting episode 3 again when you try to watch episode 4 at Funimation.com?


I am....I'm gonna try again later and hopefully they will realize what's going on.....
I'm having the same issue as well. I hope they catch the mistake soon...

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Looks like its been fixed. Episode 4 is now playing on Funimation.com.

[Just Passing Through]

Rule 1 of corporations - Never admit to a mistake.

I noticed episode 3 instead of 4, and promptly e-mailed them about it.

Three hours after they sorted themselves out I get this e-mail.

Thank you for watching Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. Episode 3 and 4 share the same pre-opening introduction but have different episode content. Please continue watching the rest of the episode and you'll see what I mean.

Wombles!:bigsmile:

[Mank]

Ah, this episode is just all the more wrong when you know it's coming...
They seemed to try and make it a bit more obvious this time around, I think, though...

[The Great Bear]

The Tucker and Nina event.

That was pretty sick. I remember the first time I saw it, it was pretty shocking. This time around, the shock was not there, since I knew what was coming, but the impact was quite strong.

They did a good job of presenting the material a second time. It didn't feel like a copy or an imitation. It stands on its own, and for those watching the first time around, the impact should be quite powerful.

[Classical]

Despite knowing what was coming in this episode, it was still rather powerful seeing the same thing happen again with Tucker and Nina. Man, it was depressing.

[HitokiriShadow]

Woohoo, Hawkeye badassness!

The Scar fight as a whole was very nice, easily at least as good as it was in the first series. We also didn't have to deal with any of those stupid "short" jokes.

Next episode, its Winry time!

[Fencedude]

Not bad, not bad at all.

Alphonse started to sound kinda like Taiga there for a bit when he was berating Ed.

AND FINALLY WINRY NEXT TIME

[Consignia]

Alphonse started to sound kinda like Taiga there for a bit when he was berating Ed.


Funny, I was thinking Al was sounding quite Tsundere at that point too.

[The Great Bear]

Not bad. I think I'd use that phrase to sum up how they've been doing so far. I'm not finding myself bored or saying "Ahh, I remember when they did that last time."

Pretty intense scene there with Ed and Scar.

And we get Winry next time.

[DJ_72]

Episode 4:

Watching this made me appreciate how well the first series told this part of story. Back then, the guys spent a few months at the Tuckers' and shared some pretty big experiences with Nina (Elysia's birth, passing the exam, etc.). Not only did she become like a little sister to them, the audience had more time to connect with her, making her death absolutely wrenching.

This time around, she was like a new friend but her reduced time onscreen took off some of the emotional edge (I especially missed Chimera-Nina stopping Ed from beating Shou to death.."no, big brother, no".... such an incredible moment. Not to mention the image of Ed pounding the wall over and over trying to bring her back):cry:

Her death was gruesome and depressing in this new edition, but didn't have near the effect as before.

Episode 5:

Just awesome--on par with the original. What I liked best is that even with the rapid-fire action, it took some time for a little character development with Ed and Al.

Overall so far:

I'm still getting used to the different pacing in Brotherhood but enjoy seeing everyone in action again. I especially like that Hawkeye is getting a lot of chances to shine---she is one cool lady!!!

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

All around good episode. I liked the scene back in Liore were we got to see Envy change back to his preferred form. Can't wait to see Whiry in the next episode.

[Classical]

Great episode. There were a lot of interesting things about it, like how Ed was dealing with the whole "transmutation" issue, along with what was transpiring in Liore with Envy and the others. The fight with Scar was awesome as well. Seeing Armstrong in action was nice. I couldn't help but laugh when Mustang was all ready to fight Scar but forgot about the fact he wouldn't be able to do anything in the rain. The little history bit about the Ishbal and the alchemists was interesting as well.

[Leon_Belmont]

I'm still a little ambivalent about these episodes. Feels almost as been there done that as a recap. But I'm glad the pace is a bit faster. The series will either diverge quicker or have some original content to fill in.

Even if I'm not so much of a manga fan (the original tv was one of the few properties I found the anime adaptation superior), I'm looking forward to the point where it diverges. Until then I've kinda accepted this is going to be a mundane several months for this show.

[Takato]

Even though I already knew what to expect in episode 4, the twist was still disturbing and impactful. I liked how they tied Scar into this episode and I thought they did a better job of building up to his character this time around. I loved the action in episode 5 and how it was more faster paced. The scene where where Ed an Al are in the rain and the rain makes it look like Al is crying was a really powerful scene. I'm glad that Hughes still thinks the alchemists are freaks. ^^;; Is it just me or does it seem like the new series is darker than the original? Like in the original, there were some dark and serious episodes at the beginning, but they had some lighter episodes in between. Besides episode 6, it seems like this time each episode keeps getting darker than the previous and it seems like Roy is a more serious character and he hasn't made many perverted jokes yet. But even episode 6 had some dark moments in it and I enjoyed seeing Winry again. The scene where Ed kept bugging Winry about his automail was hilarious and I liked the interaction between Armstrong and Pinako. The scene where Armstrong treats Al as luggage with the sheep is still hilarious. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Sheska in next week's episode and I hope they'll be able to bring back her original VA.

[Fencedude]

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[Fencedude]

Ed and Al return to Resembool, along with Armstrong, though they make a brief detour when Armstrong spots an alchemist from the war, Dr. Marcoh. From Marcoh they learn about the Philosopher's Stone, and data hidden in the Central Library. They leave...and then FUCKING GRACE shows up for Dr. Marcoh...

Arriving at Resembool, blah blah you know what happens here.

Notes: Winry's still criminally hot, though now she's Takamoto Megumi, who hasn't done much, most notably Chao from Negima and Misaki from W.A.

They head back, next episode is searching the library, and it looks like that one girl with the impossible to spell name will be there as well.

[HitokiriShadow]

Looks like FMA is doing after-credits scenes. I assume they've been doing that the whole time. That's.... really annoying. At least I figured it out before they hit new material.

Anyway, Yay for Winry as she gets one of her rare appearances. Otherwise, not much happened this episode, especially for those of us that have seen the first series.

Next time, Schiezka! (Or however you spell it) And the Mole Girl!

[Fencedude]

Looks like FMA is doing after-credits scenes. I assume they've been doing that the whole time. That's.... really annoying. At least I figured it out before they hit new material.


Actually I'm pretty sure they haven't been.

Also, I'm very conflicted about the new Seiyuu for Winry.

FREAKING MISAKI

[Vegard Aune]

Looks like FMA is doing after-credits scenes. I assume they've been doing that the whole time. That's.... really annoying. At least I figured it out before they hit new material.


Actually I'm pretty sure they haven't been.
True, this week's episode was the first one to have anything other than the preview after the credits. Anyway, I agree with HitokiriShadow, after-credits scenes are annoying.

[HitokiriShadow]

Looks like FMA is doing after-credits scenes. I assume they've been doing that the whole time. That's.... really annoying. At least I figured it out before they hit new material.


Actually I'm pretty sure they haven't been.

Well, its good to know I haven't missed anything up until now. It's odd that I had the urge to check after the credits the one time they did it.

Also, I'm very conflicted about the new Seiyuu for Winry.

FREAKING MISAKI

That's not exactly a shining role on her resume but its not her fault that character sucks, so I can't hold it against her. I don't even remember who voiced her in the first series and she seems to be doing a good job, so I have no complaints.

[Westlo]

That's not exactly a shining role on her resume but its not her fault that character sucks, so I can't hold it against her. I don't even remember who voiced her in the first series and she seems to be doing a good job, so I have no complaints.

Megumi Toyoguchi voiced Winry in the first adaption. I honestly can't even remember her Winry... even though she is one of my fav va's going around.. mainly thanks to her Revy from Black Lagoon.

I'm liking the new Winry voice.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Good episode overall. Other than the scene with Ed checking in on Winry working on his arm it didn't seem too different from the original episode. The parts with Dr. Marco were done nice as well.

[Quarkboy]

Okay, I just watched the ED animation which I heard a lot of good things about...

haven't watched the show itself yet.

The reason is because I read that the person who did it was the author of the web-anime/4-panel manga "sakana & neko" and I didn't believe it.

But it's true! He really did animate the hagaren ending! Not only that, "neko" from sakana & neko makes a cameo in it!

(for those of you unfamiliar with sakana & neko, you can watch all 6 episodes for free on livedoor anime: http://anime.livedoor.com/movie/5753650f54b784e7/

P.S. for those of you who can't read Japanese, no need to fear! Sakana & Neko has only one joke! And I bet you can figure it out.

I'm sort of amazed that this guy got such an amazing gig, considering he basically was a hack flash anime guy.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Just finished watching it at Funimation.com. Good episode all around. The introduction of Sheska was done really nicely. Seems like they wanted to give Ross and Blosch a "co staring" role in this episode. :P


My only real complant with the translation so far is witch is it IshBALian or IshVARlin? Cause so far on the streemed version on Funni's site I have seen it spelled both ways now.

[Fencedude]

Hmm...interesting, we're getting really close to the point where I bailed the first time, there really was a lot of filler in the first season. But whatever, some good revelations, Sheshka was sexy in her librarian sort of way, and Ross and Bosch made for good cabbageheads to provide expository dialog to.

[Fencedude]

Okay, I just watched the ED animation which I heard a lot of good things about...

haven't watched the show itself yet.

The reason is because I read that the person who did it was the author of the web-anime/4-panel manga "sakana & neko" and I didn't believe it.

But it's true! He really did animate the hagaren ending! Not only that, "neko" from sakana & neko makes a cameo in it!

(for those of you unfamiliar with sakana & neko, you can watch all 6 episodes for free on livedoor anime: http://anime.livedoor.com/movie/5753650f54b784e7/

P.S. for those of you who can't read Japanese, no need to fear! Sakana & Neko has only one joke! And I bet you can figure it out.

I'm sort of amazed that this guy got such an amazing gig, considering he basically was a hack flash anime guy.

Wow, that is simultaneously a really cool break for the guy, and somewhat depressing in that you are absolutely right, he's a hack.

[Fencedude]

FUCKING GRACE!

Anyway, good fights, and I still think that Al getting psyched out by Barry is stupid.

[Kirarakim]

Anyway, good fights, and I still think that Al getting psyched out by Barry is stupid.

Well it is stupid and illogical. But Al is 14 and thinking with his feelings and sometimes we do illogical and stupid things when we think with our feelings. But at least I can assure you it will be dealt with much quicker than the last series.

Although I am interested why you bailed on the last series.

[ArcticMech]

Both fights were superb with Ed's match with Slicer the highlight for me. Hughes adds the right amount of comic relief. Heck, he should be proud of his family.

[NeoCortex]

Just a quick note to anybody that skips credits/previews: There is another post-credit scene this episode.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Good episode. I liked the little extra scene after the closing credits. The part with Ed meeting Lust and Envy for the first time was nicely done.

[Westlo]

I thought this was the best episode so far, they handled Al's doubts a lot better than the first version did, which just dragged on... Great voice acting all round, Megumi Takamoto's Winry definitely held her own here. Next episode should be quality...

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

I just hope Anniplex lets Funimation post this episode tomorrow.

[Kirarakim]

I just hope Anniplex lets Funimation post this episode tomorrow.

This should help :)

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-02/funimation.com-to-repost-fullmetal-alchemist-after-fixes

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

I just hope Anniplex lets Funimation post this episode tomorrow.

This should help :)

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-02/funimation.com-to-repost-fullmetal-alchemist-after-fixes
Well that's a relief. Thanks for the link.
Update: I just checked there all back on the site. Crisis resolved. :P

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Just watched episode 9 over at the Funi site.

I like the scene with Hughes and Whinry at Elicia's birthday party. The part were Ross slaps Ed I thought was not as well done as it was in the original series. I don't know it just seemed like it was done for laughs this time. As recall the manga didn't make it seem like a joke either. The part with Scar waking up in the Ishbal camp was good up till .. WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE CHARACTER MODEL ON RICK!! :laugh: He lookes like a troll of some type. Anyway good episode. Next weeks looks like we hit the turning point with the death of Hughes

[Mank]

...Is anyone else having issues getting 9 to load on Funi's site? I keep getting an error beofre it goes anywhere, but some of you guys seem to have seen it...

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Sounds like the same glitch they had last week.

[Kirarakim]

...Is anyone else having issues getting 9 to load on Funi's site? I keep getting an error beofre it goes anywhere, but some of you guys seem to have seen it...


I can't play it either (or any of the older episodes) all I get is the ad and then the screen goes black and doesn't load at all.

Well I feel a little better that I am not the only one. But I wonder why some people can play it and others can't. :(

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

...Is anyone else having issues getting 9 to load on Funi's site? I keep getting an error beofre it goes anywhere, but some of you guys seem to have seen it...


I can't play it either (or any of the older episodes) all I get is the ad and then the screen goes black and doesn't load at all.

Well I feel a little better that I am not the only one. But I wonder why some people can play it and others can't. :(
I watched it about 4 hours ago. Maybe something to do with the servers?
EDIT: Just checked and it works for me using FireFox.

[Kirarakim]

I watched it about 4 hours ago. Maybe something to do with the servers?

I don't think so. At least not in my case because I've been trying on and off since 11:00 today.


edit: Finally got it to work :)

[Collectonian]

Is it just me or does it seem like the new series is darker than the original? Like in the original, there were some dark and serious episodes at the beginning, but they had some lighter episodes in between.

It probably is...keep in mind the manga was darker than the first anime series as well. One reason I stopped watching the first anime was it upped to comedy/lightness too much for my tastes. The manga has humerous moments, but is fairly dark on the whole IMHO. This reboot seems to be doing better about keeping that heavier feeling going :)

[Consignia]

Is it just me or does it seem like the new series is darker than the original? Like in the original, there were some dark and serious episodes at the beginning, but they had some lighter episodes in between.

It probably is...keep in mind the manga was darker than the first anime series as well. One reason I stopped watching the first anime was it upped to comedy/lightness too much for my tastes. The manga has humerous moments, but is fairly dark on the whole IMHO. This reboot seems to be doing better about keeping that heavier feeling going :)

Really? I think the opposite is true, and this version is a lot lighter. It seems they jump to chibi mode, and do visual gags far more frequently in this version.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Is it just me or does it seem like the new series is darker than the original? Like in the original, there were some dark and serious episodes at the beginning, but they had some lighter episodes in between.

It probably is...keep in mind the manga was darker than the first anime series as well. One reason I stopped watching the first anime was it upped to comedy/lightness too much for my tastes. The manga has humerous moments, but is fairly dark on the whole IMHO. This reboot seems to be doing better about keeping that heavier feeling going :)

Really? I think the opposite is true, and this version is a lot lighter. It seems they jump to chibi mode, and do visual gags far more frequently in this version.
I feel the same way.

[Kirarakim]

Really? I think the opposite is true, and this version is a lot lighter. It seems they jump to chibi mode, and do visual gags far more frequently in this version.

As a fan of the manga I agree that it is lighter than the first series. Although I don't want that to discourage people. The manga might have less angst and a little more comedy but it has in my opinion a tighter plot and more interesting and likeable characters than the first series. Also while certain characters will seem to get less development in this new series other characters will end up getting more focus & development.

But I do want to be clear that when I say lighter I don't in anyways mean less depth.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Wee going on the preview for next weeks ( Episode 10 ) things will get series fast. With the death of Hughes.

[Consignia]

Really? I think the opposite is true, and this version is a lot lighter. It seems they jump to chibi mode, and do visual gags far more frequently in this version.

As a fan of the manga I agree that it is lighter than the first series. Although I don't want that to discourage people. The manga might have less angst and a little more comedy but it has in my opinion a tighter plot and more interesting and likeable characters than the first series. Also while certain characters will seem to get less development in this new series other characters will end up getting more focus & development.

But I do want to be clear that when I say lighter I don't in anyways mean less depth.

Hell no, I'm enjoying both versions for what they are. I just disagreed with the assertion that this is the darker version. Frankly, I think their both as good as each other.

[Westlo]

Info from duckroll

Seems like Newtype has announced the OP and ED for the next season starting in July.

OP: "Hologram" by NICO Touches the Walls

ED: "LET IT OUT" by Miho Fukuhara

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Info from duckroll

Seems like Newtype has announced the OP and ED for the next season starting in July.

OP: "Hologram" by NICO Touches the Walls

ED: "LET IT OUT" by Miho Fukuhara
Cool thanks for the heads up.

[Leon_Belmont]

Really? I think the opposite is true, and this version is a lot lighter. It seems they jump to chibi mode, and do visual gags far more frequently in this version.

As a fan of the manga I agree that it is lighter than the first series. Although I don't want that to discourage people. The manga might have less angst and a little more comedy but it has in my opinion a tighter plot and more interesting and likeable characters than the first series. Also while certain characters will seem to get less development in this new series other characters will end up getting more focus & development.

But I do want to be clear that when I say lighter I don't in anyways mean less depth.

But the manga IS less deep. It's more of a shonen action piece. Still, it's more FMA, so I'm looking forward to watching something that deviates from the original TV series. Only several more weeks of this boredom. Can't wait.

[Fencedude]

Well thank god they got that over with quickly. Did not need to be dragged out. Was handled quite well overall.

Also Winry is awesome.

[Fencedude]

HUUUUUUUGGGHHHHEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah well, knew it would happen, but still *manly tear*

[Westlo]

But the manga IS less deep. It's more of a shonen action piece.

It's not like the first season is Evangelion.... and I would daresay most of the best scenes from the first season were lifted and/or expanded on from the manga anyway...

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

HUUUUUUUGGGHHHHEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah well, knew it would happen, but still *manly tear*
Damn I wish Funimation.com would get there act together and finish fixing the video portal! At least before Thursday when this episode is scheduled to go up. That was one of the saddest scenes ever. Elicia's pleading to her mom is like a dagger in the heart every time.

[Kirarakim]

But the manga IS less deep. It's more of a shonen action piece. Still, it's more FMA, so I'm looking forward to watching something that deviates from the original TV series. Only several more weeks of this boredom. Can't wait.

I'm sorry but I disagree. There is an unfortunate tendency to equate angst for depth. The first anime might of had more melodrama but it certainly did not have more depth.

Also it is more of adventure/fantasy story than action orientated story. There is a difference. In a shounen action story you usually have characters fighting stronger and stronger opponents. The main character is usually the one who ends up beating these stronger opponents. This is not the case with FMA at all. It has fights yes (but so did the 1st anime) but these fights are not the focus of the story.

[Leon_Belmont]

But the manga IS less deep. It's more of a shonen action piece. Still, it's more FMA, so I'm looking forward to watching something that deviates from the original TV series. Only several more weeks of this boredom. Can't wait.

I'm sorry but I disagree. There is an unfortunate tendency to equate angst for depth. The first anime might of had more melodrama but it certainly did not have more depth.


We're going to have to agree to disagree there until the series is over and some of the key plot point differences are up for discussion. But I'm personally left feeling some of the original TV's differentiating ideas did provide a lot more to ponder than the manga, which at times, seems a little more straight forward good guys vs bad guys to me. There are some ideas used only in the original TV series I'm rather fond of and wish were present in the manga.

[Fencedude]

Meh, delivery plots are always lame.

Good Winry screentime though.

[HitokiriShadow]

The first series spent an entire episode on the island training alone and it was one of the weakest episodes of the series for me. It wasn't very interesting the first time and I certainly wasn't looking forward to seeing it again. Fortunately, they condensed it into only 8 minutes here, but that was still about twice as long as it should have been.

It doesn't help that the previous episode was rather weak as well. Oh well, next episode will be pretty good.

[Consignia]

It doesn't help that the previous episode was rather weak as well. Oh well, next episode will be pretty good.

Aren't we about to hit the split? Where the series starts to actually have different stories? I'm looking forward to it, as these last couple of episodes have been utter fluff.

[Kirarakim]

Aren't we about to hit the split? Where the series starts to actually have different stories? I'm looking forward to it, as these last couple of episodes have been utter fluff.


I appreciate that people do not like the baby delivery scene & the island scene. But they are not just fluff. Having read the manga I can tell you that no episode is unimportant. The birth scene was important to the development of Ed, Al, & Winry and what Ed & Al discover on that island is important as well and actually ties into a discovery a character makes later in the series. Actually in some ways the birth of the baby ties in as well.

But anyways they should be getting to manga only material by episode 15, possibly even episode 14. :)

[HitokiriShadow]

It doesn't help that the previous episode was rather weak as well. Oh well, next episode will be pretty good.

Aren't we about to hit the split? Where the series starts to actually have different stories? I'm looking forward to it, as these last couple of episodes have been utter fluff.

Yes, next episode should be the last episode that resembles the material from the first series.


I appreciate that people do not like the baby delivery scene & the island scene. But they are not just fluff. Having read the manga I can tell you that no episode is unimportant. The birth scene was important to the development of Ed, Al, & Winry and what Ed & Al discover on that island is important as well and actually ties into a discovery a character makes later in the series. Actually in some ways the birth of the baby ties in as well.


It may have some significance, but that doesn't necessarily make it interesting to watch. Especially when you've already seen it once before.

Also, please use the quote button to respond to posts and please don't hint at future developments.

[Fencedude]

I appreciate that people do not like the baby delivery scene & the island scene. But they are not just fluff. Having read the manga I can tell you that no episode is unimportant. The birth scene was important to the development of Ed, Al, & Winry and what Ed & Al discover on that island is important as well and actually ties into a discovery a character makes later in the series. Actually in some ways the birth of the baby ties in as well.


Thats nice, but no one asked. Please don't volunteer information that has not been presented in the show.

And the only good delivery scene in anime was in Vandread.

[Kirarakim]

It may have some significance, but that doesn't necessarily make it interesting to watch. Especially when you've already seen it once before.

Well that is why I said I can appreciate that people dislike it. I never said that anyone was wrong for disliking those scenes for whatever reason. It's subjective. But calling something fluff indicates it's irrelevant. You can dislike it and it could still be relevant which is the point I was trying to make. Not that anyone should change their opinion about the episodes.

Although the Rush Valley arc was almost entirely different from the first series: No baby birth and Winry doesn't stay to train in Rush Valley. Not to mention Ed's watch says 1911 instead of 1910 (but that's a minor difference). I agree that the Izumi & Island stuff is relatively the same.

Also, please use the quote button to respond to posts and please don't hint at future developments.

I didn't quote anyone because I wasn't replying to one person in particular. I also made a point to make what I said as generic as possible so not to spoil anything. I apologize if that was hinting. Although even with that hinting I guarantee you won't be able to now accidentally figure something out unless you are a mind reader.


Thats nice, but no one asked. Please don't volunteer information that has not been presented in the show.

Can't I state my feelings on something without being asked?

And the only good delivery scene in anime was in Vandread.

In your opinion and I respect that.

Anyways I wasn't trying to attack anyone for their opinion so I apologize if it came off that way.

[Fencedude]

Thats nice, but no one asked. Please don't volunteer information that has not been presented in the show.

Can't I state my feelings on something without being asked?



Not if it involves later events, its not spoiler tagged, and you didn't follow the posting directions in the first post.

[Consignia]

Although the Rush Valley arc was almost entirely different from the first series: No baby birth and Winry doesn't stay to train in Rush Valley. Not to mention Ed's watch says 1911 instead of 1910 (but that's a minor difference).


Rush Valley was boring in both versions, though. A birth scene was also done a lot better in the first series. What ever the future holds, though, these episodes have felt like boring fluff. Even if the series makes me shout "A-ha!"* later because of these events, it doesn't impact how I felt directly after watching them.

*which isn't out of the ordinary for me after living in a Travel Tavern for 2 years. /obscure joke for this community

[Kirarakim]

Rush Valley was boring in both versions, though. A birth scene was also done a lot better in the first series. What ever the future holds, though, these episodes have felt like boring fluff. Even if the series makes me shout "A-ha!"* later because of these events, it doesn't impact how I felt directly after watching them.


Well I am not disagreeing with your feelings on the episode at all just word usage I suppose. I also think it is subjective about which birth scene was better. I know people like the first birth scene better because of the character that was born and Ed & Al had more involvement. This birth scene involved Winry and Ed & Al were shown to be powerless even with alchemy.

Anyways I edited my last post to add spoilers/quotes. I apologize for not following the rules but I don't automatically go to the first post in a thread and didn't know what they were. I was also not trying to be careless with spoilers because trust me I don't want to ruin anything for anyone and I wouldn't post something if I thought it could ruin something.

[Fencedude]

Well, glad thats over with.

Next time looks awesome though

[Leon_Belmont]

Thats nice, but no one asked. Please don't volunteer information that has not been presented in the show.

Can't I state my feelings on something without being asked?



Not if it involves later events, its not spoiler tagged, and you didn't follow the posting directions in the first post.


Yeah, I can't remember any special relevance offhand anyway.

But what I did notice is the pace is starting to slow to normal now, which is good, as we are hopefully treading into new territory for the anime in the not so distant future. I know it's a different take but everything thus far has just felt like recap episodes to me, except not as good. Can't be helped with the quick pace.

[Kirarakim]

Not if it involves later events, its not spoiler tagged, and you didn't follow the posting directions in the first post.


Yeah, I can't remember any special relevance offhand anyway.

But what I did notice is the pace is starting to slow to normal now, which is good, as we are hopefully treading into new territory for the anime in the not so distant future. I know it's a different take but everything thus far has just felt like recap episodes to me, except not as good. Can't be helped with the quick pace.

I will explain what I meant in the future.

But anyways it might feel like they are slowing down the pace but in reality since episode 11 they've actually been speeding things up. Or at least they have been adapting more chapters per episode. I hope they will slow down when they get to the new stuff.

Anyways as for differences between this series and the last well one thing the latest episode gave you is a clearer picture of the doors of truth. I believe the designs for the two series doors/gateway were quite different. At least I know that the designs on the doorway in this series come from the Kabbalah (http://www.amaluxherbal.com/christian_kabbalah_franz_bardon_robert_fludd.htm)( and before anyone jumps on me that is not a spoiler).

[Fencedude]

At least I know that the designs on the doorway in this series come from the Kabbalah (http://www.amaluxherbal.com/christian_kabbalah_franz_bardon_robert_fludd.htm)( and before anyone jumps on me that is not a spoiler).

It was pretty obviously a tree of Sephirot, so yeah.

[Kirarakim]

At least I know that the designs on the doorway in this series come from the Kabbalah (http://www.amaluxherbal.com/christian_kabbalah_franz_bardon_robert_fludd.htm)( and before anyone jumps on me that is not a spoiler).
It was pretty obviously a tree of Sephirot, so yeah.

Well I am very glad you noticed it but I am sure it doesn't hurt to point it out since maybe not everyone knew what it was or noticed the detail of it.

[Fencedude]

At least I know that the designs on the doorway in this series come from the Kabbalah (http://www.amaluxherbal.com/christian_kabbalah_franz_bardon_robert_fludd.htm)( and before anyone jumps on me that is not a spoiler).
It was pretty obviously a tree of Sephirot, so yeah.

Well I am very glad you noticed it but I am sure it doesn't hurt to point it out since maybe not everyone knew what it was or noticed the detail of it.

Anyone who doesn't recognize a Tree of Sephirot needs to trade in their Anime Fan Credentials.

Its only one of the most overused "mystical plot device" symbols.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Well looks like Funimation has finaly caught up with the 3 episodes that we have been waiting the last 3 weeks for. I'll just say for episode 12 I was surprised Mason did not attack the boys on the island in the flashback like he does in the manga. I guess since that was in the first seres they figured it was overkill.

[Mank]

Looks like next week is Greed... and the preview makes it look like they might handle it in a single episode... Bring on the previously unanimated manga content :)

[Consignia]

This episode showed some of the strongest signs of divergence so far, even though nearly all of it had been covered before, almost scene for scene. It was really enjoyable, though, definitely my favourite episode so far. It had a nice mix of action, comedy and story, and Greed's gang is as awesome as ever.

[Fencedude]

Ahahahahaha...Greed bit off more than he could chew.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Looks like Izumi had to pick up the slack in Ed's fight vs. Greed. LOL.

[Fencedude]

Please follow the posting directions.

[Pachi]

Maybe this is just the manga-purist in me talking, but I didn't like this episode as much. Differences from the manga are to be expected, even if it's a series that endeavors to be true to the manga, but I felt there were quite a few unnecessary changes in this one.

For one thing, since we already lost the Youswell story to a meer mentioning (which is a shame, because I really liked that story), Yoki's origin and desire to bring down the Elric brothers just looks confusing. It's like, "Who is this guy? Why does he hate Ed and Al so much?" Well, we'd KNOW that if they had given one episode for Youswell.

I dunno, it feels like the animators are just trying to speed through everything covered by the first anime, which as a whole makes it look a little sloppy. I'm really hoping that everything slows down when Lin shows up, and I'm all for that, but it's just a shame that the first part of the series had to take blows for it. These episodes we're speeding through are really important; they deserve more time taken to get the proper nuances across.

On a side note, Roa lopping off Greed's head did not nearly have the same shock factor as in the first anime. Probably because Greed almost flat out hinted that it was going to happen and the music didn't change. In the first anime, Greed's dialouge was vague enough that we might not have seen it coming, and there was a dramatic musical sting when it happened, which gave a much better sense of "Oh my god!! He whacked his friend's head off!!" In this episode, it was more like, "Oh, he whacked his head off. I'm shocked." Then again, by now the entire audience probably knows it's coming anyway, so....

EDIT: Sorry, sorry, jeez.........it's been awhile since I've posted.

[Fencedude]

Well, they wasted no time with that revelation, did they?

Anyway, the Bradly vs. Greed fight was fantastic, and shame about Martel.

[Vegard Aune]

...Awesome. Not only did they have some really good action-scenes, but the introduction of Father, as well as two of the Homonculus who were both... rather different from their counterparts in the first anime, made this episode one of the best ones yet.

[Consignia]

Yes, the split has well and truly occurred. I was shocked how violent the thing was, considering the time of day it is aired at. The whole thing was awesome again from start to finish.

[HitokiriShadow]

Wow, that was bloody. And the dog dude was very clearly cut in half.

So, yeah, we've hit the divergence point. Though it will be another 5-10 episodes before I encounter truly new material, since I read a good chunk of the manga a few years ago (up to volume 12, I think).

[Geno]

For one thing, since we already lost the Youswell story to a meer mentioning (which is a shame, because I really liked that story), Yoki's origin and desire to bring down the Elric brothers just looks confusing. It's like, "Who is this guy? Why does he hate Ed and Al so much?" Well, we'd KNOW that if they had given one episode for Youswell.
There should be time for a brief flash back in a later episode. But in my opinion it works fine because Ed and Al don't remember him when they meet again.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Wow, that was bloody. And the dog dude was very clearly cut in half.

So, yeah, we've hit the divergence point. Though it will be another 5-10 episodes before I encounter truly new material, since I read a good chunk of the manga a few years ago (up to volume 12, I think).
Yeah it seems they are making it darker than the first series. But at the same time overloading it with the comedic moments. Actually in the next episode we get into the manga only material. With the characters from Xing

[Pachi]

For one thing, since we already lost the Youswell story to a meer mentioning (which is a shame, because I really liked that story), Yoki's origin and desire to bring down the Elric brothers just looks confusing. It's like, "Who is this guy? Why does he hate Ed and Al so much?" Well, we'd KNOW that if they had given one episode for Youswell.
There should be time for a brief flash back in a later episode. But in my opinion it works fine because Ed and Al don't remember him when they meet again.

I suppose that's true, though I personally think the joke isn't as funny if the audience doesn't remember their encounter either. But oh well.

On the other hand, I thought Episode 14 was much better paced, even if it still feels weird for Greed to go out so quickly. I don't think we got enough exposure to the relationships among Greed and his subordinates, which is important later on when the original Greed's memories surface inside the new Greed. I guess my point is that I can tell we're hitting all the important points, but I feel that some of them are going by so fast that the emotional impact is weathered down a little. Still, it was a very good episode.

As for next week, I guess Hawkeye will just have had Black Hayate all this time? And I have to wonder why Scar is fighting the Silver Alchemist already. We're at Volume 8 manga-wise and that's in Volume 11. In any case, I look forward to seeing the true manga-only material finally animated.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Well I guess they assume everyone watched the first series and thus there is no reason to go into stuff like that again. I'm assuming that's why the storyline on the train and the Youswell story were cut from FMAB.

[Pachi]

Well I guess they assume everyone watched the first series and thus there is no reason to go into stuff like that again. I'm assuming that's why the storyline on the train and the Youswell story were cut from FMAB.

My beef with that mentality is that, while I understand it, I still want to see that stuff play out because I think it's important to see it play out for both fans of the original and new fans. The fact of the matter is, if it's changed, it's changed. It doesn't really matter if the train story happened in the manga and the first anime; the animators basically decided that it did not happen in the new anime. And I feel that an anime that totes on following the original manga needs to stay true to that as closely as possible.

I also understand why they decided to cut those story lines, since they're not entirely conclusive to the series and the series can still roll ahead without them, but I prefer a series to have more encounters and locations like that because I feel it expands the scope of the world being shown. Frankly, I'm more disappointed that Youswell was cut than anything else. (all the train story really did was provide a means to properly introduce the main military personnel and Mustang) Still, what they cut out was fine - if they had to cut out SOMETHING, those stories would be at the top of the list. It's just that I think they wouldn't have to cut in the first place if they weren't racing through the series. So far, it feels like the producers are trying to meet a deadline, or trying to make sure the series ends at a particular amount of episodes. I'm just worried that this will hurt the quality of the series in the long-run, but I hope I'm wrong.

[HitokiriShadow]

It's just that I think they wouldn't have to cut in the first place if they weren't racing through the series. So far, it feels like the producers are trying to meet a deadline, or trying to make sure the series ends at a particular amount of episodes. I'm just worried that this will hurt the quality of the series in the long-run, but I hope I'm wrong.

They were racing through the early episodes because the majority of the people watching have already seen the first series and want to see the new material. If anyone in the audience really wants to see those episodes that were cut, they can see them in the first series. The produces know why people are watching this new series and its not because they want to see the same stories with a new coat of paint.

[Pachi]

The produces know why people are watching this new series and its not because they want to see the same stories with a new coat of paint.

Then you've caught me red-handed - because that's sort of what I was hoping for. Or, more accurately, the same manga stories with a new coat of paint. Perhaps I expect too much.

Don't get me wrong, though, all these little nitpicks haven't stopped me from enjoying the series so far. On the contrary, I think it's a great adaptation. It's just moving at a different speed than I originally envisioned - I think I'm quickly adjusting.

[Princedarian07]

Does anyone know when Funi will start dubbing Brotherhood?

[Fencedude]

Does anyone know when Funi will start dubbing Brotherhood?

Sometime between now and when the first set is released.

[Princedarian07]

Does anyone know when Funi will start dubbing Brotherhood?

Sometime between now and when the first set is released.

and when is that?

[LelouchLamperouge]

Does anyone know when Funi will start dubbing Brotherhood?

Sometime between now and when the first set is released.

and when is that?

Probably Mid-2010 for the 1st set, since they need to wait for the 1st season to finish airing, then wait for DVD masters to come in and etc etc.

[Fencedude]

Does anyone know when Funi will start dubbing Brotherhood?

Sometime between now and when the first set is released.

and when is that?

We don't know.

[Kirarakim]

They were racing through the early episodes because the majority of the people watching have already seen the first series and want to see the new material. If anyone in the audience really wants to see those episodes that were cut, they can see them in the first series. The produces know why people are watching this new series and its not because they want to see the same stories with a new coat of paint.

Well the problem is now that we are at manga only material, the Brotherhood staff is still rushing through the material. My only guess is although no episode count has been announced they probably do have a limited episode count to work with.

I also disagree with the sentiment that people should just watch the first series to see what was cut. Yes the first series is similar to the 1st part of the manga and therefore Brotherhood but it's not exactly the same. There are different details that affect the story in different ways. And besides some of the things that were cut were not in the 1st series. That being said the Brotherhood team did not cut anything major and I do at least understand that people who watched the first series might have been frustrated watching similar things twice.

[Fencedude]

Hawkeye is now required to have her hair down at all times.

Anyway, SUDDENLY! CHINESE! WTF?!

But Ran Fan is Mizkui Nana! <3 <3 <3 And Yao Ling is oddly hilarious.

[HitokiriShadow]

The Xing characters make their appearance! Ran is the main one I was looking forward to but I forgot that May could be rather amusing and Ling is one of the more interesting characters in the series from what I had read.

Also, yay for Hawkeye being awesome.

[Shirou Emiya]

Does anyone know when Funi will start dubbing Brotherhood?

Sometime between now and when the first set is released.

and when is that?

Probably Mid-2010 for the 1st set, since they need to wait for the 1st season to finish airing, then wait for DVD masters to come in and etc etc.

That's cool, I'll finally to be able to watch this series ^_^.

I don't know what I'd do if anime stopped being dubbed, and I have already watched all dubbed anime that interests me :(.

[HitokiriShadow]

Well the problem is now that we are at manga only material, the Brotherhood staff is still rushing through the material. My only guess is although no episode count has been announced they probably do have a limited episode count to work with.


The last few episodes really haven't been rushed. Once they finished the backstory stuff with Izumi, its been at a pretty natural pace. 14 was the first episode that was in manga territory though it was the tail end of an arc that the first series was faithful to until the last little bit. Both 14 and 15 had perfectly natural pacing; I don't see anything to complain about.

I read up to about volume 12 and from what I recall, the current episodes are about volume 10. I think the manga is up to about volume 20 now and I hear it looks like it is close to ending, quite possibly around the same time Brotherhood would end if its ~50 episodes. So they have nearly 40 episodes to cover 12 or so volumes of material. I'm not exactly worried about the pacing they would need to cover that.

[Kirarakim]

The last few episodes really haven't been rushed. Once they finished the backstory stuff with Izumi, its been at a pretty natural pace. 14 was the first episode that was in manga territory though it was the tail end of an arc that the first series was faithful to until the last little bit. Both 14 and 15 had perfectly natural pacing; I don't see anything to complain about.

It depends on what you consider rushing. The worst paced episodes were 11-13 which covered about 3 to 4 chapters. The rest covered about 2-2.5 chapters. But now that we are at manga only material it's still at the same pace as earlier episodes. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed episode 15 for the most part but that is partially because I have accepted that each episode is going to be a bit rushed and they will have to skip things.

I read up to about volume 12 and from what I recall, the current episodes are about volume 10. I think the manga is up to about volume 20 now and I hear it looks like it is close to ending, quite possibly around the same time Brotherhood would end if its ~50 episodes. So they have nearly 40 episodes to cover 12 or so volumes of material. I'm not exactly worried about the pacing they would need to cover that.

We just finished volume 8 to be exact.

[Vegard Aune]

Great episode. I liked the new opening, and the introduction of Ling and the other Xingese characters was awesome. Also, Ed's "brotherly pride" being destroyed by Al having learned to transmute without a circle... Genius. Only thing that bothers me is that they took out the one-panel gag of chibi-Winry chasing chibi-Ed (on the beach... against the setting sun... with a dog wearing Al's helmet running around... while she was holding a chainsaw...) after she found out that his automail had fallen off. That picture was hilarious.
(That there wasn't really a spoiler, but seeing how it was something from the manga that was left out of the anime, I thought I might as well tag it anyway.)

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Good solid episode. Love the fact that we are finally in what was the "manga only" material up till now. I just wish they had animated her time in Youswell.

Love the new OP and CL.

[DJ_72]

The alchemist Scar fought at the beginning looked like that old guy from the Monopoly game :knowitall: :bigsmile:

Great episode; I enjoyed the new characters. And I get to hear Nana Mizuki again!!! :beatingheart:

[Fencedude]

The reactions to finding out about Hughe's death were very well done.

And FUCKING GRACE! Seriously!

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

The alchemist Scar fought at the beginning looked like that old guy from the Monopoly game :knowitall: :bigsmile:


I was thinking the same thing when I first saw him in the manga. :laugh:

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

The reactions to finding out about Hughe's death were very well done.



Yeah and I think it was different in the manga. Will have to go back and check but I thought the boys and Whinry find out when they read about Ross's arrest in the paper the next day? Anyway good episode all around. It was nice to see Sheska getting some real screen time again. Also it was a nice change of pace having a epiosde with a serious tone and not overloaded with jokes and over the top animation. ( not that I have a problem with that)

[Consignia]

Anyway good episode all around. It was nice to see Sheska getting some real screen time again. Also it was a nice change of pace having a epiosde with a serious tone and not overloaded with jokes and over the top animation. ( not that I have a problem with that)

I agree, I definitely enjoyed that episode. This series has a habit of dispersing serious scenes with super deformed characters. It works in the fights, but it would have been wholly inappropriate in this episode, and I thought it was very well handled.

[untoldsorrow]

The reactions to finding out about Hughe's death were very well done.



Yeah and I think it was different in the manga. Will have to go back and check but I thought the boys and Whinry find out when they read about Ross's arrest in the paper the next day? Anyway good episode all around. It was nice to see Sheska getting some real screen time again. Also it was a nice change of pace having a epiosde with a serious tone and not overloaded with jokes and over the top animation. ( not that I have a problem with that)

You are right. I felt something was off myself and I check. Both were done well, but the manga version would have made the impact better.

[DJ_72]

The scene at the Hughes' place was excellent. It definitely added something we didn't get in the last series. What a memorable moment when the boys find Winry cradling Elysia. :cry: Good to see more attention to Gracia and her reaction as well.

So far, I'd have to say that "Brotherhood" would have been a better name for the first series. Back then, Ed and Al's relationship was clearly the center of the story. This time, they've traveled together and fought side by side but there haven't had a lot of heart to heart conversations like before. Granted, we're still fairly early in this edition so there's probably more of that ahead.

On the other hand, I really like how Winry is more involved. Her relationship with Ed is getting the time it deserves.

[Fencedude]

Ah...not what I expected.

Mustang is being very hard to read.

[William K]

The reactions to finding out about Hughe's death were very well done.

I thought the scene where they obliviously run past the phone booth where Hughes died was a bit cruel to the viewers...

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Ah...not what I expected.

Mustang is being very hard to read.
Yeah that was a surprise when I first saw that in the manga. Seems like in the last three episodes Ed has run the gambit of emotions.

[DJ_72]

Ah...not what I expected.

Mustang is being very hard to read.

That's the main thing I felt after watching this episode. What happened with Ross was unexpected and so dark.It's hard to imagine Roy ending up admirable like he was at the end of the first series.

I'm still stumped about what happened with Falman and the Chopper. How did that psycho escape? Maybe it wasn't Falman but actually Envy?

I wonder what plans Winry and Al have now that Ed has been dragged off by Armstrong...

[HitokiriShadow]

I'm still stumped about what happened with Falman and the Chopper. How did that psycho escape? Maybe it wasn't Falman but actually Envy?


I can't remember the names of all of Roy's men, but Falman was the one staying in the hideout with the Chopper, right? I'm not sure what you're confused about. They've been together for the past episode or two and that hasn't changed here. The Chopper hightailed it when Lab 5 was destroyed and then he encountered Roy's men and they helped him hide. So then in this episode, he left the hideout despite Falman's protests. The entered the jail to rescue Ross and then left, just the way we saw it. Which part confused you?

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

I'm still stumped about what happened with Falman and the Chopper. How did that psycho escape? Maybe it wasn't Falman but actually Envy?


I can't remember the names of all of Roy's men, but Falman was the one staying in the hideout with the Chopper, right? I'm not sure what you're confused about. They've been together for the past episode or two and that hasn't changed here. The Chopper hightailed it when Lab 5 was destroyed and then he encountered Roy's men and they helped him hide. So then in this episode, he left the hideout despite Falman's protests. The entered the jail to rescue Ross and then left, just the way we saw it. Which part confused you?

Yes Falman and Havoc have been guarding Barry the Chopper. Although Havoc is allowed to come and go as he pleases.

To DJ_72: All your questions should be answered in the next two episodes.

[DJ_72]

I'm still stumped about what happened with Falman and the Chopper. How did that psycho escape? Maybe it wasn't Falman but actually Envy?
So then in this episode, he left the hideout despite Falman's protests. The entered the jail to rescue Ross and then left

Sounds like I missed the scene where the Chopper left Falman :sd:

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Xerxes kinda reminds me of ancient Rome.
ROSS IS ALIVE. I knew Mustang was not that cold.
It looked like the booth Roy was in was the same one Hughes was killed in.
Looks like next will be an all out war between the military and some of the Homonculi

[Pachi]

A good episode overall, but I'm a little concerned for the next episode because the preview didn't show any hint of the Ran Fan vs. Envy fight. Though the preview was sticking very close to only showing scenes with Hawkeye in them, so I guess that doesn't mean the fight won't be there.

[Fencedude]

Ah yes, that was about what I expected from Mustang.

Some interesting revelations all around, and next episode should be loads of fun.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

A good episode overall, but I'm a little concerned for the next episode because the preview didn't show any hint of the Ran Fan vs. Envy fight. Though the preview was sticking very close to only showing scenes with Hawkeye in them, so I guess that doesn't mean the fight won't be there.
I like how they do the previews for this one. They try not to give away too much.

[Pachi]

A good episode overall, but I'm a little concerned for the next episode because the preview didn't show any hint of the Ran Fan vs. Envy fight. Though the preview was sticking very close to only showing scenes with Hawkeye in them, so I guess that doesn't mean the fight won't be there.
I like how they do the previews for this one. They try not to give away too much.

That's what I hope, that they're just trying not to give away too much too soon. Especially since it didn't show any of Lust, who plays a huge part coming up.

[Fencedude]

Its a 30 second preview for a 22 minute episode. Calm down.

[Pachi]

Its a 30 second preview for a 22 minute episode. Calm down.

I am calm. I'm just used to previews for shows like this showing a little tiny bit from most of the main scenes that take place in the episodes - I was just thrown off a little by the Hawkeye-centric preview. But it is also good that they want to keep the audience guessing as much as possible so we don't know what to expect.

[Fencedude]

But it is also good that they want to keep the audience guessing as much as possible so we don't know what to expect.

In that vein, such an endeavor would be helped by those f you who've read the manga not talking about future events. I haven't made a big deal out of it but its getting annoying.

[Pachi]

But it is also good that they want to keep the audience guessing as much as possible so we don't know what to expect.

In that vein, such an endeavor would be helped by those f you who've read the manga not talking about future events. I haven't made a big deal out of it but its getting annoying.

I suppose you're right. Sometimes I forget that there are assuredly a lot of new fans who did not read the manga. Which is one of the reasons I used spoiler tags, but I'll concede your point.

[Consignia]

I suppose you're right. Sometimes I forget that there are assuredly a lot of new fans who did not read the manga. Which is one of the reasons I used spoiler tags, but I'll concede your point.

The odd hand comment is ok, properly, but any extended discussion should be taken elsewhere, since despite the popularity not everyone, me included, has read the manga and it sort alienates of that group.

I did like this episode, it's got a nice different feel to it from the first series. I knew Mustang didn't kill Maria, but it was quite interesting seeing how he pulled it all off.

[Fencedude]

And one sin is down. They take a lot of killing.

[HitokiriShadow]

Mustang vs. Lust was very impressive. Some very nice Hawkeye scenes as well. Watching episodes 18 and 19 back to back made it even better. This little storyline was what I've been looking forward to since the new series started, and I wasn't disappointed.

I think the anime will hit the point I stopped reading at in another 5-6 episodes.

[Consignia]

This episode was awesome on toast with a mug of brilliance.

I was completely blind sided by them killing Lust off so early. And then poor Barry. I thought that he might have had chance of being a whacky side kick or something. They are certainly packing these episodes tight.

[NeoCortex]

Quick question for anybody that's read the manga, since I haven't: Without giving away any plot points, does the show seem to be on pace to finish in 26 episodes? Or is this going to probably run the same length as the original series?

I can't remember if someone's already said for certain what the length of this series was going to be.

[HitokiriShadow]

Quick question for anybody that's read the manga, since I haven't: Without giving away any plot points, does the show seem to be on pace to finish in 26 episodes? Or is this going to probably run the same length as the original series?


The length hasn't been announced, but it's going to be at least 50 episodes. 26 episodes will cover up to about the point where I stopped, which was the end of volume 12 or 13. I don't recall how many volumes the manga is right now, but I believe its around 22 or so.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Quick question for anybody that's read the manga, since I haven't: Without giving away any plot points, does the show seem to be on pace to finish in 26 episodes? Or is this going to probably run the same length as the original series?

I can't remember if someone's already said for certain what the length of this series was going to be.
The manga is still going in Japan. The point were at in the Brotherhood right now is in volume 10 of the manga.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Quick question for anybody that's read the manga, since I haven't: Without giving away any plot points, does the show seem to be on pace to finish in 26 episodes? Or is this going to probably run the same length as the original series?


The length hasn't been announced, but it's going to be at least 50 episodes. 26 episodes will cover up to about the point where I stopped, which was the end of volume 12 or 13. I don't recall how many volumes the manga is right now, but I believe its around 22 or so.
Yeah volume 19 just came out here in the US. And yeah the Japanese version is around volume 22-23. I believe they said the show would go on till the whole story is done. The story feels like it's starting to wind down but I'm only reading the US Viz Media version so I don't know for sure.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Mustang vs. Lust was very impressive. Some very nice Hawkeye scenes as well. Watching episodes 18 and 19 back to back made it even better. This little storyline was what I've been looking forward to since the new series started, and I wasn't disappointed.


Just saw it, great episode. I loved the way the fight between Mustang and Lust played out. The animation as Lust being torched was amazingly well done. However it is sad to see her go after just 19 episodes. Whinrys' calling Al an idiot and then saying welcome back a good scene. Nice touch there at the end as well having the theme music start playing as Ed notices Hohemhiem. Kinda reminiscent of the old series.

[Vegard Aune]

Badass fight-scenes, great animation, interesting plot-developments... (which, granted, I was already aware of because I'd read the manga, but still) Yeah, all in all a pretty awesome episode. And I agree with Orihimes_Boyfriend, it was cool how they had the ending-theme start playing a few seconds before the end of the episode, like they did in the first series. Though I can't quite remember, was this Hohenheim's first proper appearance in this series? I know that, in the manga, they actually showed his arrival in Resembool, but I can't remember seeing that here.

[DJ_72]

It's official: I'm hooked! :bowsmiley:

Brotherhood has reached a point where it's standing on it's own. Good character development these last 3 weeks or so with Mustang and that battle was phenomenal.

I'll say it again: the real winners with this version are Winry and Hawkeye. I love how they're more involved in this version.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Though I can't quite remember, was this Hohenheim's first proper appearance in this series? I know that, in the manga, they actually showed his arrival in Resembool, but I can't remember seeing that here.
Yeah up till this point he had only been seen in flashbacks.

[Fencedude]

Hohenheim's a bit of an ass, but I guess that's expected.

Ed makes important discoveries, new resolve is found, etc etc.

[Consignia]

I'm a bit confused: why is it that important that it wasn't the Elrics' mother/Izumi's child that was transmuted and why does that imply that they can get Al's body back? I seem to have missed the logical link there. I understand the dramatic significance of them transmuting their loved one, but they still desecrated someone else's corpse, so it's hardly cause for celebration/relief.

[Fencedude]

I'm a bit confused: why is it that important that it wasn't the Elrics' mother/Izumi's child that was transmuted and why does that imply that they can get Al's body back? I seem to have missed the logical link there. I understand the dramatic significance of them transmuting their loved one, but they still desecrated someone else's corpse, so it's hardly cause for celebration/relief.

I don't think they created anyone in particular, I think they just...created a random body with no soul.

I do agree that I'm not really following Ed's logic vis a vis Al's body, but whatever. I figure they'll clarify later.

[bleachjoj]

I'm a bit confused: why is it that important that it wasn't the Elrics' mother/Izumi's child that was transmuted and why does that imply that they can get Al's body back? I seem to have missed the logical link there. I understand the dramatic significance of them transmuting their loved one, but they still desecrated someone else's corpse, so it's hardly cause for celebration/relief.

I don't think they created anyone in particular, I think they just...created a random body with no soul.

I do agree that I'm not really following Ed's logic vis a vis Al's body, but whatever. I figure they'll clarify later.

don't worry they clear it up in the next episode judgeing from the manga

[Consignia]

I'm a bit confused: why is it that important that it wasn't the Elrics' mother/Izumi's child that was transmuted and why does that imply that they can get Al's body back? I seem to have missed the logical link there. I understand the dramatic significance of them transmuting their loved one, but they still desecrated someone else's corpse, so it's hardly cause for celebration/relief.

I don't think they created anyone in particular, I think they just...created a random body with no soul.

I do agree that I'm not really following Ed's logic vis a vis Al's body, but whatever. I figure they'll clarify later.

Right, I think I may have mixed up stuff from the first anime into this, which caused the confusion. I believe there, they explicitly excavated the corpse, where as here they completely transmuted a human from raw materials.

[Kirarakim]

I'm a bit confused: why is it that important that it wasn't the Elrics' mother/Izumi's child that was transmuted and why does that imply that they can get Al's body back? I seem to have missed the logical link there. I understand the dramatic significance of them transmuting their loved one, but they still desecrated someone else's corpse, so it's hardly cause for celebration/relief.

I don't think they created anyone in particular, I think they just...created a random body with no soul.

I do agree that I'm not really following Ed's logic vis a vis Al's body, but whatever. I figure they'll clarify later.

Right, I think I may have mixed up stuff from the first anime into this, which caused the confusion. I believe there, they explicitly excavated the corpse, where as here they completely transmuted a human from raw materials.

Yes they didn't bring back any dead corpse just a random body. The only reason it moved at all was because Al's soul for a time was attached to it. It was never really alive.

But to explain Ed's logic further: Ed discovers that you cannot ever bring the dead back to life. Before this discovery he thought it was possible just his theory was incomplete. However where does that leave Al? We now know that you can never bring the dead back. But Al's soul does exist in that armor.

Ed confirms this by having Al talk to Winry about his memories from the past that Ed does not remember. One part from the manga that they left out from this chapter that might help clarify things is Al not only has his past memories but he keeps storing new memories. How? Ed theorizes that Al's body and brain are still out there somewhere functioning and are somehow linked to his soul. This was similar to the situation with Barry the chopper, the body and soul were attracted to each other.

So basically what Ed confirms from this discovery is Al is not dead and his body still exists somewhere thus why he is still storing memories. That was what is important from that discovery. And at this point he doesn't know exactly how he can get Al back. But he at least believes it is possible.

[Pachi]

One part from the manga that they left out from this chapter that might help clarify things is Al not only has his past memories but he keeps storing new memories. How? Ed theorizes that Al's body and brain are still out there somewhere functioning and are somehow linked to his soul. This was similar to the situation with Barry the chopper, the body and soul were attracted to each other.

So basically what Ed confirms from this discovery is Al is not dead and his body still exists somewhere thus why he is still storing memories. That was what is important from that discovery. And at this point he doesn't know exactly how he can get Al back. But he at least believes it is possible.

That part would've definitely helped to better explain to fans who had not read the manga.

What's important is that Ed and Al tried to transmute a dead person from beyond the doors of truth (though they didn't know of the doors when they did it). But since humans cannot be brought back to life through transmutation as Ed has discovered, that means that dead souls do not go through the doors, and thus anything beyond them is living. Since Al saw his own body, his body is still attainable, basically.

Anyway, I thought this episode was great. Cut interactions aside, the ending of the episode was especially powerful in establishing the turning point in the Elric brothers' resolve. Hoho's appearance was very speedy, but I thought his voice was fitting. Looking forward to the next big mission next week.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Anyway, I thought this episode was great. Cut interactions aside, the ending of the episode was especially powerful in establishing the turning point in the Elric brothers' resolve. Hoho's appearance was very speedy, but I thought his voice was fitting. Looking forward to the next big mission next week.

Trust me you guys that don't read the manga things will start to clear up some in the coming episodes. I know it's confusing and it was for me when I read this part in the manga.
Anyway moving on to the episode itself another good one. I particularly enjoyed the parts were Ed dug up the body and that last scene with Izumi and Sig. Very moving scene. I also like the way Din was sitting the corner growling at Hoenhiem. That was kinda funny.

[leongsh]

Looking forward to the next big mission next week.
Episode 21 will be broadcast on 30 August 2009 (and not this coming weekend, i.e. 23 August 2009) per heading text announcement in the next episode preview.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Looking forward to the next big mission next week.
Episode 21 will be broadcast on 30 August 2009 (and not this coming weekend, i.e. 23 August 2009) per heading text announcement in the next episode preview.
OK Thanks for the heads up.

[Pachi]

Looking forward to the next big mission next week.
Episode 21 will be broadcast on 30 August 2009 (and not this coming weekend, i.e. 23 August 2009) per heading text announcement in the next episode preview.

Oh right, I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.



Anyway, I thought this episode was great. Cut interactions aside, the ending of the episode was especially powerful in establishing the turning point in the Elric brothers' resolve. Hoho's appearance was very speedy, but I thought his voice was fitting. Looking forward to the next big mission next week.

Trust me you guys that don't read the manga things will start to clear up some in the coming episodes. I know it's confusing and it was for me when I read this part in the manga.

Are you including me in that? I've read the entirety of the manga that's been released so far.

I don't remember being all that confused, but there was definitely a whole lot of "let's stop everything and try to explain this" in those two consecutive chapters of the manga that should approximate to the end of this episode and the beginning of the next one. Believe me though, it didn't confuse me nearly as much as some of the stuff that should come up about 4 or 5 episodes from now.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Looking forward to the next big mission next week.
Episode 21 will be broadcast on 30 August 2009 (and not this coming weekend, i.e. 23 August 2009) per heading text announcement in the next episode preview.

Oh right, I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.



Anyway, I thought this episode was great. Cut interactions aside, the ending of the episode was especially powerful in establishing the turning point in the Elric brothers' resolve. Hoho's appearance was very speedy, but I thought his voice was fitting. Looking forward to the next big mission next week.

Trust me you guys that don't read the manga things will start to clear up some in the coming episodes. I know it's confusing and it was for me when I read this part in the manga.

Are you including me in that? I've read the entirety of the manga that's been released so far.

I don't remember being all that confused, but there was definitely a whole lot of "let's stop everything and try to explain this" in those two consecutive chapters of the manga that should approximate to the end of this episode and the beginning of the next one. Believe me though, it didn't confuse me nearly as much as some of the stuff that should come up about 4 or 5 episodes from now.
I was talking about myself. And to the others that got confused by some of the events. Sorry :sweat:

[DJ_72]

Interesting how Pinako was involved in this installment. We hardly ever see her away from the Rockbell house.

This was a great character development episode for Ed, Al and Winry--her outburst at Ling surprised me.

Does anyone know how soon we'll see May Chang again? She's my favorite "new" character, but has only shown up once so far. I want to watch her get on Ed's nerves :bigsmile:

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Does anyone know how soon we'll see May Chang again? She's my favorite "new" character, but has only shown up once so far. I want to watch her get on Ed's nerves :bigsmile:
Just keep watching. :sweat:

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Good episode. Some of the animation in this one was an interesting art choice. I liked how the scenes with Havoc was handled. The music when is talking to Hawkeye was a nice touch. In the beginning it was a tiny bit strange to hear Mustang chewing out Hawkeye for a change. And here I thought she wore the pants in that relationship. lol.

[Fencedude]

Oh good, they broke Ran Fan's mask promptly. I was not looking forward to her fighting wearing that stupid mask.

Next episode should be awesome.

[HitokiriShadow]

Ed's transformation of the baby carriage cracked me up.

We also get the start of another some more nice fights.

[Fencedude]

Mostly focused on backstory for Scar and Winry. Good emotional scene with Winry and Ed.

Lin stuff continues into next week...

[DJ_72]

Wow...I don't think we even saw Mom and Dad Rockbell's faces in the last series! This was such a well-written episode for Winry--her scene with Ed at the end was one of the best moments ever for those two.

One thing that has disappointed me a little so far in Brotherhood is the background music. It's been okay (admittedly, it's had a really tough act to follow), but this time it was outstanding.

I hope the next episode has a little humor...

[bored@lazy]

*Please respond to this post when discussing episode 23*(Hopefully I did it right this time...)

Well that was another very good episode. I was really worried about Winry near the end after seeing Fuhrer Bradly talking to her, I think something will come of that later though... Good to see May Chang make another appearance and the bit with her Panda contemplating the "new" food pyramid was hilarious.
Can't wait for next week.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Just watched this one and it was terrific.

I love Hawkye with her hair down.

The music used when Whinry gets the call from Rush Vally fit the scene perfectly.

May Changs' sudden appearance at the end of the Scar fight was pretty funny.

Looks like Gluttony might play a pivotal role coming up.

Can't for next week.

[Fencedude]

Lan Fan is hardcore.

But dammit Winry, don't leave right when an awesome girl needs some automail love!

[HitokiriShadow]

I kind of remembered Lan Fan doing something like that, but I couldn't remember the exact details. I forgot that she completely lopped off her arm.

May Chang was pretty awesome too when she rescued Scar.

[Fencedude]

Ed and Lin get swallowed by Gluttony, and Mustang is in a very bad situation...

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Ed and Lin get swallowed by Gluttony, and Mustang is in a very bad situation...
I wonder if eating Elric gives you really bad indigestion? LOL.

One thing I picked up on in this episode was while Envy is fighting Ling he refers to Lings' fight with Wrath (King Bradly) however the actor was saying Lust. This seems like it was a goof in the script

[Pachi]

Ed and Lin get swallowed by Gluttony, and Mustang is in a very bad situation...
I wonder if eating Elric gives you really bad indigestion? LOL.

One thing I picked up on in this episode was while Envy is fighting Ling he refers to Lings' fight with Wrath (King Bradly) however the actor was saying Lust. This seems like it was a goof in the script

No, Envy was saying Wrath. The Japanese pronounciation of Wrath is "Ra-su", and the sentence involved saying "fight WITH Wrath". To convey that in Japanese, you would use the Japanese "to" to imply that the action was done with/against Wrath, so, "Ra-su to...". But Lust is pronounced in Japanese as "Ra-su-to", which sounds exactly the same. So the problem there is with Japanese pronounciation of English words rather than a scripting error, I'm guessing.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Ed and Lin get swallowed by Gluttony, and Mustang is in a very bad situation...
I wonder if eating Elric gives you really bad indigestion? LOL.

One thing I picked up on in this episode was while Envy is fighting Ling he refers to Lings' fight with Wrath (King Bradly) however the actor was saying Lust. This seems like it was a goof in the script

No, he was saying Wrath. The Japanese pronounciation of Wrath is "Ra-su", and the sentence involved saying "fight WITH Wrath". To convey that in Japanese, you would use the Japanese "to" to imply that the action was done with/against Wrath, so, "Ra-su to...". But Lust is pronounced in Japanese as "Ra-su-to", which sounds exactly the same. So the problem there is with Japanese pronounciation of English words rather than a scripting error, I'm guessing.
OK. Thanks for the help. That had me baffled

[Fencedude]

Uhh...how about that true form huh.

Lots of interesting developments...Mustang is in quite the pinch...

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Uhh...how about that true form huh.

Lots of interesting developments...Mustang is in quite the pinch...
Not what you were expecting he would look like huh?

[Consignia]

Oh dear, Envy's true form was a rather jarring piece of CG animation, wasn't it? Sapped my enjoyment of the episode right down.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Looks like Bradly is getting wise so he is splitting up Mustang and Hawkeye. Not to mention the rest of his top allays. Envy's true from is freaky. Loved the scene with May Chang talking about her back story of how her and her panda met. Her putting out the fire with her tears was great.

[Mank]

For whatever reason I never really thought of the true form as green (nothing implied or said that it was prior to this, right?), but I suppose that makes sense...
And yay, next episode or the one after we should get that one super awesome event...

[Fencedude]

For whatever reason I never really thought of the true form as green (nothing implied or said that it was prior to this, right?), but I suppose that makes sense...
And yay, next episode or the one after we should get that one super awesome event...

Please use the "Quote" button to respond to a specific post, and not the "Post Reply" button at the bottom of the page. See how your post no longer has a topic title indicating that its about episode 25?

Thank you.

[Mank]

For whatever reason I never really thought of the true form as green (nothing implied or said that it was prior to this, right?), but I suppose that makes sense...
And yay, next episode or the one after we should get that one super awesome event...

Please use the "Quote" button to respond to a specific post, and not the "Post Reply" button at the bottom of the page. See how your post no longer has a topic title indicating that its about episode 25?

Thank you.

Wasn't exactly responding to a specific post so no need to quote, but I do see your point as to prominently displaying what episode is being discussed, so my post has been edited to have the proper title. I'll be sure to watch out for that in the future.

[Fencedude]

Wasn't exactly responding to a specific post so no need to quote, but I do see your point as to prominently displaying what episode is being discussed, so my post has been edited to have the proper title. I'll be sure to watch out for that in the future.

Even if you aren't specifically responding to a post, please use "Quote" regardless to keep things all together in a single subthread.

[Fencedude]

Very cool stuff this time, though the CG Envy was kinda annoying.

Next time looks like it might give us some more background...

[bleachjoj]

anyone know why the call him ling. In the viz manga he's called lin.
Anyway cg envy wasn't as fun to look at as in the manga but still good episode.

[Fencedude]

anyone know why the call him ling. In the viz manga he's called lin.
Anyway cg envy was as fun to look at as in the manga but still good episode.

Lin and Ling are pronounced the same way, though "Lin" is probably more technically correct.

...not that he's actually chinese or anything.

And use the "Quote" button. Please.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Good episode. I thought the back story how Bradley became Wrath was well done.

[Fencedude]

New OP and ED, they're ok, none of the songs in this series have really resonated with me, but none have been outright horrible. I can't wait to meet the blonde military lady with the tank! ED is very Winry focused.

As for the episode, its mostly recap, but there is some new stuff, mostly surrounding Hohenheim...having a moment of self reflection? He talks to a younger Pinako (she sure shrank...) and "Father", who very clearly has a different voice from Hohenheim. By the end of the episode he's come to some sort of resolution, but we're missing so much information that its hard to draw any real conclusions.

The recap portions were somewhat disjointed (ok, really disjointed), but it all worked together rather well...for a recap.

Next time, shit goes down!

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

And thus season 3 begins.

Decent episode overall. The new OP is not as good as the previous two in my opinion but its OK. I like the new closing and how they used the previous CL for the montage at the end. I gotta say Pinako was hot back in the day! I guess we were do a recap after 26 episodes and I thought it was handled alright. Kinda would have preferred they go in order of event than randomly jump around. Was good to see and hear Hugues again.

[Consignia]

The recap portions were somewhat disjointed (ok, really disjointed), but it all worked together rather well...for a recap.


I thought it was an absolute mess. It had no real structure, and the framing was incoherent. I know it was supposed to be a dream, but still, that's no excuse for one of the worse recaps I've ever seen. The dream as a standalone would have worked much better, but then it wouldn't have been a recap.

It's hard to get worked up about it, though since the series as a whole has been so packed, it would be hard pack the entire narrative in a single episode in a good way. Also kudos for actually trying something interesting for the recap, regardless of the results, it's what I like to see.