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bluesilo
04-06-2009, 10:11 AM
PandoraHearts is about a boy who gets thrown into a prison world (think twisted Alice in Wonderland) and enters into a contract with a powerful but feisty girl. After escaping, the two work together to help him figure out his sin and find her memories. (XEBEC)
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Nosredna
04-06-2009, 10:06 PM
I'm surprised I'm the first to make a post about episode one, but I found the episode to be a bit boring. I know it was setting up the plot, so I'm going to give it more time. His friend Gilbert was just annoying, although the stuff with him at the end of the episode was promising.
ArcticMech
04-06-2009, 10:27 PM
Too early to tell with this one. Heck, I thought they'd at least get up to the ceremony. Oh well. I don't want to say it was boring, but it wasn't very interesting either. Will give this one another couple of episodes.
Suwako Moriya
04-06-2009, 11:01 PM
I have to agree with the idea that this episode was a bit on the boring side. Even for a set up episode. The main thing I got from the episode was the following.
Gilbert gets to be used by the enemy. Eda (?) is kind of cute. There's apparently going to be some sort of bitch that will be a major obstacle for our lead.
This was definitely one of the weaker episode ones I've checked out recently. The other ones had a lot more energy to them to be honest. This one was just lacking.
ArcticMech
04-06-2009, 11:21 PM
This was definitely one of the weaker episode ones I've checked out recently.
Out of the eight pilot episodes I've seen, this would rank second from the bottom. As nothing has really happened thus far, I do want to give it a chance. Then again, this is proving to be a rather busy season...
Suwako Moriya
04-06-2009, 11:41 PM
Then again, this is proving to be a rather busy season...
Since I'm still in the process of finalizing what I want to watch this season, it's still too early for me to decide how busy this season is. Although sometimes the testing process itself can be the most hectic. As you're trying to decide what to stay with long term.
Regardless, I still have shows from past seasons to finish watching as well. Which means it's probably a good idea to keep my Spring list in check for now. Thus if something needs to be cut then this might be it. Unless things shape up soon.
Fencedude
04-07-2009, 01:02 AM
Huh...don't know what to think yet, but worth another episode or two.
Having an OP by FictionJunction and an ED by savage genius helps too.
BluWacky
04-07-2009, 04:42 AM
I'm refusing to watch this until the widescreen broadcast. It drives me mad that TBS do this whole 4:3 thing with their anime on Thursday nights; I'm fairly sure it's a money-making exercise (don't the widescreen broadcasts air on a satellite channel or something like that?) but they could at least just air them letterboxed or something. Pandora Hearts clearly relies a great deal on visual atmosphere from the promotional artwork I've seen, and the cropping ruins the scene composition if you ask me.
I'm not saying it's going to be a great show (clearly reactions are mixed) but this is one of the very few technical things I like to rant about!
Ashyukun
04-07-2009, 07:25 AM
Out of the eight pilot episodes I've seen, this would rank second from the bottom. As nothing has really happened thus far, I do want to give it a chance. Then again, this is proving to be a rather busy season...
Yeah, this was definitely one of the weakest- but then there's a lot of good stuff this season as well. I'll be watching the second episode just to see if it picks up a bit, but it's going to have to pull something Ga-Rei level for it to convince me to follow it beyond that.
pathos
04-07-2009, 08:06 AM
Yeah, this was definitely one of the weakest- but then there's a lot of good stuff this season as well. I'll be watching the second episode just to see if it picks up a bit, but it's going to have to pull something Ga-Rei level for it to convince me to follow it beyond that.
I'm actually finding it to be the opposite. I've watched (or tried to anyway) everything I could get my hands on, and there is very little I actually like.
So, this one, while not being "great", still has my attention for another week at the least. It has potential. Now, the question is will it actually live up to the best parts of the episode, or follow the worse parts instead.
Suwako Moriya
04-07-2009, 03:20 PM
I'm refusing to watch this until the widescreen broadcast.
Honestly in the case of most of these series, I'm not patient enough to wait for the 16:9 version. So I end up watching it 4:3 then 16:9 later. However given my feelings for the first episode are on the meh side, I might be tempted to wait to make an exception. In other words wait for 16:9 before watching anymore. Assuming I decide to watch anymore at all.
ArcticMech
04-13-2009, 08:33 PM
A big improvement over the first episode as the story finally kicked into gear. Pretty dark and twisted episode and that B-Rabbit is scary (though I kinda like the girl, even with that wicked smile).
This one's a keeper for now since some time seems to have transpired by the end of the episode and I want to know what's going to happen next. Darn, I've been looking to trim shows, but that's proving to be difficult to do so far this season.
I was bored and completely uninterested throughout. This style of storytelling usually doesn't work for me, and I'll admit I was biased against it going in but my feelings on it are what they are. The character designs were kinda nasty too, especially the tiny marble shaped eyes. I thought I'd give it a try but it doesn't seem like my thing.
Nosredna
04-21-2009, 09:52 PM
After watching the episode, I'm more lost than before, but I hoping I'm supposed to be :sd:. Definitely a lot more action this episode and it does show some promise. I'm going to keep with it now, especially with what happened at the end of the episode.
Nosredna
04-23-2009, 09:38 PM
Those were some freaky 'babies' (or what ever you want to call them) at the beginning of the episode. Overall I thought it was entertaining as I finally started putting a few things together, but I'm still pretty lost as to what is going on. I do think Alice is going to be a cool character and depending on his attitude Oz could be too.
Suwako Moriya
05-15-2009, 03:03 PM
A big improvement over the first episode as the story finally kicked into gear.
I have to agree. This seems like a classic case of following a weak first episode with a much better second episode. Which is nice, but they kind of require one being motivated enough to watch the second episode in order to see the improvement.
Regardless as can be guessed already, I decided to try out a bit more of this. I suppose part of it was because I was curious about Alice herself. In spite of the negative impression she created in the first episode, I did start to become curious about her.
In this episode she managed to be scary, creepy, insane, and yet strangely awesome. Although I'm not sure about that rabbit form of hers. That's got to be one of the scariest rabbits ever. It goes without saying that I like her human form a lot better.
You have to feel sorry for Oz. Thanks to the various events that happened, his entire life is destined to be screwed up. Being the property of Alice is just one of the many issues he'll likely have to deal with.
Oh, and I think I'm going to love Sharon. She's quite attractive and I rather like her voice as well. Hopefully she'll have a decent role in the story. That way I can have an excuse to stare at her on occasion.
Still I get the feeling the most major reason to watch this could be Alice. I guess it depends on how her character develops over time. Still her actions in this episode make it hard to ignore. I just hope she spends plenty of time in human form.
Suwako Moriya
05-15-2009, 03:49 PM
I do think Alice is going to be a cool character and depending on his attitude Oz could be too.
Yes, and with both of them likely to be interacting heavily with each other there's a high amount of potential as well. It just depends on how their relationship develops over time.
As for all the questions that Oz kept asking. The answer to most of them is quite simple. It's because Alice is strangely awesome, strangely attractive (sometimes), and you just can't resist her.
So the contract results in a kiss Alice and being possessed (?) by her. For the record, yes I am now officially jealous of Oz. Thus he better appreciate her or else. I can't believe I'm saying this.
In any case, the whole "You tried to kill me before" followed by "The first time we met was..." does tell me that something isn't adding up here. What that is, I can't really say.
Suwako Moriya
05-15-2009, 04:23 PM
In this episode, Sonic the hedgehog attacks! Ok. It wasn't Sonic himself, but I just wanted to say that. At least I think that's supposed to be a hedgehog. Now on to more important things.
We learn that Sharon and a few other people are part of some group called Pandora. Oz and Alice get into a bit of confrontation with them.
They talk about how they have need for Oz and likely Alice as well. So they get into discussion about things. Break has an interesting attitude. "We'll use each other!"
It would seem that Alice's goal is to regain her lost memories that have been scattered around the world. It seems that she regained one in this episode. And as a result we got to see a somewhat different Alice. Well, for a short bit anyway.
Nosredna
05-15-2009, 04:37 PM
Wow someone else is watching this show? I need to go back and watch ep. 4 to remember what happened :sd:.
Westlo
05-15-2009, 04:52 PM
Wow someone else is watching this show? I need to go back and watch ep. 4 to remember what happened :sd:.
I went and read the first 8 chapters of the manga after episode 2.. and with XEBEC for once being really faithful to the source material (why couldn't they do that with To Love Ru as well sigh) I've had no reason to watch the anime. I'll be along for the ride with episode 7 onwards though :p
It's a shame the first episode of this and Tears to Tiara had no "hook", something Cross Game managed to avoid by reshuffling some events. I'm kinda worried about the same thing happening with Umineko...
Suwako Moriya
05-15-2009, 04:56 PM
Wow someone else is watching this show?
And if episodes 2-4 are any indication I'll likely be watching more. Hopefully Alice can forgive me for having dropped this before. Speaking of which, it would be nice if some could consider watching at least up to episode 4. Would be curious to see what others think of her. Since 2-4 help to create a more detailed impression of her.
Suwako Moriya
05-15-2009, 06:37 PM
In this episode, we get to spend quality time with Alice, Raven, Alice, Oz, and Alice. Yet I wanted to say Alice multiple times because I can. Just remember that Alice has a big heart.
The illegal contractor we get to meet in this episode is a flower girl. A flower girl that has to deal with "angry rich lady" and "creepy guy". Both of which she ends up killing.
In the end, she herself gets swallowed up by the Abyss. It would seem that "contractors" have a time limit and once reached they get swallowed by the Abyss. Her time ran out.
It would seem that in spite of the fact she's a chain, Alice didn't realize the "contract" could lead to such things. She also makes it clear to us that she made her first contract with Oz. I'm tempted to read too much into the way she said it.
In any case, according to Break there are three paths that Oz can ultimately end up taking. I'll let you decide for yourself which of those paths is the best...
Suwako Moriya
05-15-2009, 08:19 PM
Oz decides it would be a good idea to visit the "mansion" from his past. This leads to flashback scenes concerning Oz and Gil. It also leads to finding out that Raven is Gil. As well as finding out that thanks to the wonders of "magical time" that 10 years passed before Oz escaped from the Abyss. The episode ends on a cliffhanger. Yes, things are getting hectic.
In any case, the comment about 10 years having passed makes one wonder about Sharon. Since it would seem that she hasn't aged. So I suppose this means that there's something special about her.
Alice with fork and knife in battle stance was fun to see. Now I want to imagine her fighting with those for real.
ArcticMech
05-17-2009, 09:46 AM
In any case, the comment about 10 years having passed makes one wonder about Sharon. Since it would seem that she hasn't aged. So I suppose this means that there's something special about her.
Yeah, there's definitely something odd about Sharon. I'm sure this will be explained in due time. Break looks about the same too if memory serves.
I put off watching this series after the second episode due to an increasingly hectic schedule and an unforeseen appetite for manga. Having caught up in the past 12 hours, I really like how Pandora Hearts has turned out thus far. Things really started getting interesting during Oz's imprisonment in the Abyss. And it's not mere coincidence that Alice cemented herself as the other (better?) half of this show during that time. I'm glad to see that others have either stuck it out from the beginning or, like myself, have recently returned to it as Pandora Hearts is easily one of the better shows of the current season IMO.
Suwako Moriya
05-17-2009, 01:18 PM
Yeah, there's definitely something odd about Sharon. I'm sure this will be explained in due time.
I think how soon will partially depend on how attentive Oz is. If he takes the "ten year" thing to heart, if he's noticed that Sharon hasn't aged, and he's willing to ask questions then we'll be a step closer. Of course Sharon could dodge the question....
And it's not mere coincidence that Alice cemented herself as the other (better?) half of this show during that time.
And thanks to her, a show that could have easily gone down the path of awful is now going down the path of awesome. Well, so far anyway.
I'm glad to see that others have either stuck it out from the beginning or, like myself, have recently returned to it as Pandora Hearts is easily one of the better shows of the current season IMO.
Honestly, I'm not that good with exact rankings. However I can say that Pandora Hearts has jumped up several spots. That's probably the best way to put it for now.
Nosredna
05-17-2009, 02:17 PM
It would seem that Alice's goal is to regain her lost memories that have been scattered around the world. It seems that she regained one in this episode. And as a result we got to see a somewhat different Alice. Well, for a short bit anyway.
Kind of weird we find out her goal after four episodes, but I like how things aren't being rushed. The pacing seems a bit slow, but things are still enjoyable (after that first episode). Now I need to actually watch episodes 5 and 6.
I went and read the first 8 chapters of the manga after episode 2.. and with XEBEC for once being really faithful to the source material (why couldn't they do that with To Love Ru as well sigh) I've had no reason to watch the anime. I'll be along for the ride with episode 7 onwards though :p
It's a shame the first episode of this and Tears to Tiara had no "hook", something Cross Game managed to avoid by reshuffling some events. I'm kinda worried about the same thing happening with Umineko...
Interest, guess I can skip the manga for now. Yeah, the first episode wasn't that great, but I'm glad that I stuck with it for now.
ArcticMech
05-17-2009, 02:35 PM
They wasted no time dealing with the prior episode cliff hanger as everything went down about as expected...though they did dispense with it rather quickly. One shot to the shoulder of the contractor was enough to send the Chain away.
In any case, the interesting things about this episode were the discovery of one of Alice's memory fragments and the rather surprising appearance of the Will of the Abyss.
Appearing as a stuffed bunny, the Will of the Abyss tried to manipulate Alice and later Oz into severing their bond, but without success. The bunny resembled the cute stuff bunny that Alice had in her memory, except this one was floating, dripping blood, and turned into a monster when "reasoning" with the children was met with resistance. Very creepy and nicely done. Later we see that the Will of the Abyss is identical in looks to Alice, except that she has white/silver hair and more feminine attire. Yep, she's the one in the ED.
Another highly entertaining episode.
Nosredna
05-17-2009, 06:51 PM
Alice can be so cute at times, I'm in heaven watching her (sometimes :P).
Interesting way to introduce, they only have a limited amount of time together and now they are racing against the clock with that. Of course I have a feeling they are going to run out of time and have to figure something out. Alice's expression when she told Raven that Oz was her 'first' was priceless.
Suwako Moriya
05-17-2009, 07:10 PM
The bunny resembled the cute stuff bunny that Alice had in her memory, except this one was floating, dripping blood, and turned into a monster when "reasoning" with the children was met with resistance. Very creepy and nicely done.
Can you imagine some poor kid getting a bunny like that as a Christmas present? That thing was beyond creepy, but the fun part was watching Oz "debate" with. Also let's face it, the only reason was Oz needs to be with Alice is because she's Alice.
Later we see that the Will of the Abyss is identical in looks to Alice, except that she has white/silver hair and more feminine attire. Yep, she's the one in the ED.
Ah, so she's finally made her appearance. Will be curious as to what her long term role is. And what connection if any she has to Alice. Either way, it seems the Will of the Abyss is quite dangerous. In any case, I hope she has another name we can call her instead.
On another note, one has to wonder exactly what plan Sharon has. Then again the main issue with "Everything is going as planned" is the line is often vague and you don't really get much information beyond that.
And with episode 7, I'm now more or less caught up. Now begins the long wait for episode 8. Speaking of which. Since the show airs before K-ON! which I like to watch "live", I might do the same for Pandora Hearts too if possible. I'll have to think about it.
ArcticMech
05-17-2009, 07:47 PM
Also let's face it, the only reason was Oz needs to be with Alice is because she's Alice.
Alice is probably the only one who doesn't realize how awesome she is.
On another note, one has to wonder exactly what plan Sharon has. Then again the main issue with "Everything is going as planned" is the line is often vague and you don't really get much information beyond that.
That's the big unknown. It's an understatement to say that Sharon and Break definitely know much more than they've let on to Oz, Gil and Alice. Especially considering that the organization is named Pandora, I'd definitely be a bit suspicious if I was in the shoes of our trio.
Suwako Moriya
05-17-2009, 08:10 PM
Alice is probably the only one who doesn't realize how awesome she is.
Which is sad, but hopefully she'll made to realize it as well eventually. Then again it would likely go to her head.
That's the big unknown. It's an understatement to say that Sharon and Break definitely know much more than they've let on to Oz, Gil and Alice.
And clearly we the viewer get the pleasure of being in the dark as well. Still for all we know while their knowledge may be much higher, it's possible they themselves don't have all answers.
Especially considering that the organization is named Pandora, I'd definitely be a bit suspicious if I was in the shoes of our trio.
Yes, a name like Pandora doesn't exactly provide a positive mental image.
Suwako Moriya
05-17-2009, 08:12 PM
Alice's expression when she told Raven that Oz was her 'first' was priceless.
I was about to say "she acted like she just had her first kiss" and then I remembered what happened in episode 3.
something
05-17-2009, 08:17 PM
Decided to finally start this, since I'm going too slow and not getting around to the remaining new shows I intended to watch. I'll keep expectations low for the first few eps since it only apparently picks up later. I figure I might just keep pace with the widescreen releases unless I really like it, in which case I'll go ahead and catch up soon.
Episode 1:
- Hah, blond boy is Minagawa Junko. Looking at ANN, I've also got Hanazawa Kana, Hirohashi Ryou, Kawasumi Ayako and a bunch of others to look forward to. And fo course more Fukuyama Jun. :sd:
- lol little blond girl is manhandling that cat.
- Ada/Eida is an adorable Fukuhara Kaori! (Tsukasa! Chisato [ZKC]!) I'm surprised someone who voiced an important character in Lucky Star still has so few roles. Here's hoping she gets more.
- Then creepy dolls and creepy girl and creepy stuff.
- I hear a Hirohashi Ryou!! So she's evil cloak woman. And she seems to be working on turning Gil to her side or something.
Hey, that was actually pretty good. Maybe it's just because I set my expectations really low, but I enjoyed it anyway.
ArcticMech
05-17-2009, 08:25 PM
Hey, that was actually pretty good. Maybe it's just because I set my expectations really low, but I enjoyed it anyway.
Don't think anyone ever really said that it was bad, but it's definitely smart to keep expectations low for the first episode or two. It definitely picks up and a certain someone is a real gem. Nice to know more people are giving this show a chance.
something
05-17-2009, 08:54 PM
Episode 2:
- Sharon. Hanazawa Kana~! <3 <3 Her voice makes me melt (Oz too apparently). And she seems like she'll be quite interesting...
- And Break is... Hah. yes. Definitely an Ishida Akira role. Xerxes Break... that's an awesome name.
- Clock rings, and Kawasumi Ayako (er, Alice) can escape =D
- Oz stabbed? A big breasted chained up woman? A giant fucking rabbit monster with a scythe type thing?
- Oooh it's one form of Alice, I guess. Interesting.
- Well, I guess the fight scenes won't be one of this show's strengths. Alice is fucking awesome though.
I can't really speculate much on what all this means yet but it seems quite promising. Alice is amazing, and I geuss I was right in assuming that Gil is the man in the that from the promo images. Or not? Well, it seems like it. It's hard to tell if that much time could have really gone by because Oz doesn't look any older in the next ep preview, and it's hard to tell if Sharon aged much. The castle, though, certainly looks damn worn down.
I'm definitely keeping up with this show, although I don't want to rush yet since I think there's only widescreens to 4 or 5. Got too much else to watch anyway.
Suwako Moriya
05-17-2009, 09:00 PM
Don't think anyone ever really said that it was bad, but it's definitely smart to keep expectations low for the first episode or two.
I think the issue with Pandora Hearts is that it's one of those shows that starts off slow and takes a couple of episodes to truly start the story. Which usually has its own set of risks.
It definitely picks up and a certain someone is a real gem. Nice to know more people are giving this show a chance.
The truth is definitely being spoken here. On a side note, just like with most other shows that first air in 4:3 and then in 16:9, I'm probably going to lack the patience to wait for the 16:9 version.
Suwako Moriya
05-17-2009, 09:09 PM
I'm definitely keeping up with this show, although I don't want to rush yet since I think there's only widescreens to 4 or 5. Got too much else to watch anyway.
Just like with other series, the 16:9 version should be three weeks behind. Episode 7 of the 4:3 aired recently. Meaning the 16:9 should be up to episode 4 in terms of airing.
Fencedude
05-18-2009, 02:34 AM
Alice and Sharon are fantastic.
And for apparently getting stabbed in the heart, Oz sure was doing pretty good.
Fencedude
05-18-2009, 03:05 AM
Seriously, I could listen to Alice talk all day. Classic badass Kawasumi Ayako.
Perhaps some answers next time? Maybe?
something
05-18-2009, 07:45 AM
And for apparently getting stabbed in the heart, Oz sure was doing pretty good.
Looked like it at first, but later on it seems like he was holding his shoulder, or upper chest near the shoulder.
Suwako Moriya
05-18-2009, 09:49 AM
Seriously, I could listen to Alice talk all day. Classic badass Kawasumi Ayako.
Kawasumi Ayako is playing the role of Alice quite well. Which only adds to the benefit of listening to Alice.
Nosredna
05-18-2009, 05:19 PM
Seriously, I could listen to Alice talk all day. Classic badass Kawasumi Ayako.
Kawasumi Ayako is playing the role of Alice quite well. Which only adds to the benefit of listening to Alice.
That's definitely the highlight of watching the show for me.
Magewolf
05-19-2009, 09:03 PM
I think we are looking at a time loop.The blond guy in the memories is an adult Oz and that is his own grave he found.That would tie into the chains ability to manipulate time.
Suwako Moriya
05-19-2009, 09:08 PM
I think we are looking at a time loop.The blond guy in the memories is an adult Oz and that is his own grave he found.That would tie into the chains ability to manipulate time.
That's possible, but if true then it begs the question. Will this be the type of time loop that makes all of their actions futile? Or will it be the type that can be broken? I guess it depends on what type of ending they're going for.
Magewolf
05-19-2009, 09:23 PM
I think we are looking at a time loop.The blond guy in the memories is an adult Oz and that is his own grave he found.That would tie into the chains ability to manipulate time.
That's possible, but if true then it begs the question. Will this be the type of time loop that makes all of their actions futile? Or will it be the type that can be broken? I guess it depends on what type of ending they're going for.
I think they might be on the second loop because the blond guy tells Gil to protect Oz correctly this time so it may not be a closed loop.The adult Oz could be from timeline 1 then he goes back and changes things making timeline 2 so young Oz does not have to go back.
Nosredna
05-25-2009, 05:23 PM
I don't know why I keep getting behind in watching this :sd:. Amazing episode, I can't believe 10 years have passed and Raven is Gil. I really didn't see it coming, although their appearances were certainly similar. And then thinking Sharon looks the same after all these years is quite puzzling too. Then to top things off, we have the "Will of the Abyss" which will certainly make things more complicated.
Suwako Moriya
05-26-2009, 02:35 PM
Raven (Gil) carried Alice and Oz to his home. Raven is annoyed that Break and Sharon essentially used Alice and Oz as bait. Of course Sharon and Break were ready to make a move if anything truly went wrong.
After all, they were watching from the shadows. Sharon made it clear she wasn't kidding about that. Much to the dismay of Raven. Sharon, she's like the wonderful.
Alice wakes up to find Break under the bed. Alice's reaction is awesome. Cause damage and then go to a corner and act like an angered animal. The latter part is especially amusing.
Break explains the reason why he and Sharon haven't aged. They're both contractors. However their contracts are considered legal and done through Pandora. One of the possible side effects is not aging.
However Break makes it clear that just because they don't age, it doesn't mean they live forever. Make of what you will. On a side note, I'm taking the terms legal and illegal with a grain of salt.
Break gives a discussion as to what the Will of the Abyss is and the purpose of Oz. Although it's clear a lot of it is speculation and deduction. That's comforting to know.
Oz is hurting and it seems the seal has moved. Oh, and a mystery girl gives him flowers. I'm going to take a wild guess they're going to have the seal be completed much as they possible can get away with for dramatic effect.
Alice and Gil head over to Oz. Alice and Gil notice the flowers. Gil looks at an envelope with a letter and plays the "It's nothing" game. Wait. Is Alice trying to eat one of the flowers? Yes, she seems to be and we get to see her stick out her tongue.
Alice has discovered a meal she wants to eat. She's so cute when requesting. Gil makes it clear he'd rather go for ingredients. Alice decides she'll get it herself. Suddenly Gil decides he'd rather buy it.
Gil talks to Oz about how a lot of what Break says is meaningless harassment. He then start to make it clear that he too has suffered because of Break. Break is scary...
Gil and Alice get into a discussion about parents. Alice wants to ask Oz about them. Gil doesn't want her to since it's a delicate subject for Oz. This leads to Alice climbing up high and demanding Gil provide her with information.
Some kid is getting bullied and it's Oz to the rescue. Well, rescue in his own way.... The kid asks about Oz's parents. The question seems to bother him. Let's see his mother is dead and he doesn't remember his father's face.
And we end the episode with a better view of the cute girl in blue that delivered the flowers.
Fencedude
05-26-2009, 05:00 PM
ALIIIIIIIICE <3 <3 <3
Actually, Xerxes is pretty awesome too, Ishida Akira is perfect in that role, though I keep thinking he's waaaaay too tall for one of his characters.
Interested in seeing whats with with Raven, and why Sharon is part of all of this.
Fencedude
05-26-2009, 05:43 PM
Not pulling any punches in this show.
Also Alice and Raven are hilarious together, and Oz is like "whatever"
And totally don't trust Xerxes at all.
Suwako Moriya
05-26-2009, 06:05 PM
And totally don't trust Xerxes at all.
I don't trust him either. On a side note, I'm so used to him being called Break, that I forgot about the Xerxes part of his name.:sweat:
Fencedude
05-26-2009, 06:23 PM
So, unsurprisingly Raven is Gil, however this raises all sorts of interesting questions about Sharon, doesn't it?
Nosredna
05-26-2009, 06:25 PM
Since 10 years have passed, shouldn't Oz wonder what the heck happened to his sister? He doesn't seem all that concerned that the place where he once lived is in ruins. Not the best episode, but we are moving the plot along with the introduction of the Will of the Abyss. As much as I like Alice, maybe Oz should have picked her :P.
Suwako Moriya
05-26-2009, 06:54 PM
Since 10 years have passed, shouldn't Oz wonder what the heck happened to his sister?
Perhaps, but maybe Oz is taking it one step a time. He could also be trying to keep focused for both his sake and the sake of Alice.
Actually, I myself would like to know about the sister and if she has a role to play. Also I want to know if ten years of aging has resulted in her becoming attractive.
Fencedude
05-26-2009, 06:55 PM
Interesting, so the Will of the Abyss is a white Alice, there are definitely quite a few places they could go with this.
But I'm definitely more interested for the moment in finding out what is up with Sharon.
Fencedude
05-26-2009, 07:10 PM
Since 10 years have passed, shouldn't Oz wonder what the heck happened to his sister? He doesn't seem all that concerned that the place where he once lived is in ruins.
Actually, they didn't "live" there, they were just there for the coming of age ceremony. We have no idea about where they lived.
As for Ada, well, She's right there in the OP (http://fencedude.com/Images2/Ada.jpg) look all hot and everything.
BUT SERIOUSLY SHARON WHAT THE FUCK OZ. WHY are you not realizing that she looks exactly the same?
Suwako Moriya
05-26-2009, 07:15 PM
As for Ada, well, She's right there in the OP (http://fencedude.com/Images2/Ada.jpg) look all hot and everything.
Note to self, actually pay attention to the opening of shows better. Also if that's what we have to look froward to, they need to bring her into the story as soon as possible.
Nosredna
05-26-2009, 07:19 PM
Actually, they didn't "live" there, they were just there for the coming of age ceremony. We have no idea about where they lived.
As for Ada, well, She's right there in the OP (http://fencedude.com/Images2/Ada.jpg) look all hot and everything.
BUT SERIOUSLY SHARON WHAT THE FUCK OZ. WHY are you not realizing that she looks exactly the same?
Well that just goes to show how well I was paying attention to the episodes :sd:. Wouldn't Oz want to return to his 'home' sometime then since he got back? I'm beginning to think Oz is about as slow as me. I didn't notice Ada in the OP either, but that maybe because I've skipped it, or just had it playing in the background while I was doing something else.
Fencedude
05-26-2009, 07:34 PM
Hey, its Felli! Whats she doing in this show?
Anyway, seeing Alice trying to eat the black roses was amusing, as was her reactions to both Xerxes and Gil. I think she's more of a cat than a rabbit, honestly.
And, unsurprisingly, both Sharon and Xerxes are contractors, so now I look forward to seeing Sharon's Chain...
Magewolf
05-26-2009, 08:34 PM
Some kid is getting bullied and it's Oz to the rescue. Well, rescue in his own way.... The kid asks about Oz's parents. The question seems to bother him. Let's see his mother is dead and he doesn't remember his father's face.
And we end the episode with a better view of the cute girl in blue that delivered the flowers.
After this I am even more certain that Oz's father was the man from Baskerville that Gil jumped in front of to keep Oz from killing.That would also help explain why Gil is now part of an enemy noble house.
Suwako Moriya
05-26-2009, 08:48 PM
After this I am even more certain that Oz's father was the man from Baskerville that Gil jumped in front of to keep Oz from killing.
Assuming your theory is right and it likely is, it will be fun to see the results of Oz finding out for himself.
Fencedude
05-26-2009, 08:49 PM
After this I am even more certain that Oz's father was the man from Baskerville that Gil jumped in front of to keep Oz from killing.That would also help explain why Gil is now part of an enemy noble house.
I though that was pretty obvious from the get-go, honestly.
Magewolf
05-26-2009, 09:59 PM
After this I am even more certain that Oz's father was the man from Baskerville that Gil jumped in front of to keep Oz from killing.That would also help explain why Gil is now part of an enemy noble house.
I though that was pretty obvious from the get-go, honestly.
Well I had thought so from the first episode but they keep on pounding on it.Also they keep hinting that this is not the first extraordinaire situation Oz has found himself in.
Nosredna
05-27-2009, 07:51 PM
Anyway, seeing Alice trying to eat the black roses was amusing, as was her reactions to both Xerxes and Gil. I think she's more of a cat than a rabbit, honestly.
That was pretty funny. I think her hiding in the corner was pretty goofy too.
Oh and finding out why Sharon looks the same is kind of a let down, although I'll admit I didn't see that coming.
See we've determined that Oz's father is is part of Baskerville, are we assuming he was the person in Alice's memories too? Or did I get the wrong impression out of that?
And as cute as the girl is blue is, I still like Alice much better.
Magewolf
05-27-2009, 09:12 PM
See we've determined that Oz's father is is part of Baskerville, are we assuming he was the person in Alice's memories too? Or did I get the wrong impression out of that?
And as cute as the girl is blue is, I still like Alice much better.
I think then man in the memories is probably an adult version of Oz.
Magewolf
05-27-2009, 09:25 PM
However Break makes it clear that just because they don't age, it doesn't mean they live forever. Make of what you will. On a side note, I'm taking the terms legal and illegal with a grain of salt.
Break gives a discussion as to what the Will of the Abyss is and the purpose of Oz. Although it's clear a lot of it is speculation and deduction. That's comforting to know.
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Break's talk about the Abyss and what Pandora wanted with it gave me a bad feeling.I think it may turn out that Pandora is the real bad group who wants to control all the chains and Baskerville is trying to keep the Abyss caged away.
Suwako Moriya
05-27-2009, 09:37 PM
And as cute as the girl is blue is, I still like Alice much better.
I like Alice better as well, but to be fair the girl in blue hasn't provided me with enough to form an opinion on her.
Fencedude
05-27-2009, 09:41 PM
Break's talk about the Abyss and what Pandora wanted with it gave me a bad feeling.I think it may turn out that Pandora is the real bad group who wants to control all the chains and Baskerville is trying to keep the Abyss caged away.
Thats so obvious I'll almost be disappointed.
Speaking of the BLEEDING OBVIOUS that no one seems to be addressing, how about the fact that Alice, quite blatantly, used to be human?
Suwako Moriya
05-27-2009, 09:46 PM
Break's talk about the Abyss and what Pandora wanted with it gave me a bad feeling.I think it may turn out that Pandora is the real bad group who wants to control all the chains and Baskerville is trying to keep the Abyss caged away.
It's possible. Right now, I'm going by the safe assumption that everyone outside of Oz and Alice has potential to turn out to be the evil. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if each organization itself was being used and taken advantage of by select members.
Suwako Moriya
05-27-2009, 09:52 PM
Speaking of the BLEEDING OBVIOUS that no one seems to be addressing, how about the fact that Alice, quite blatantly, used to be human?
Sooner or later they're going to have to address how in the heck a person goes from being human to suddenly being a chain. Also there's the matter of whether or not this has happened before.
As for the whole "blatantly obvious thing", I guess we can amuse ourselves and consider Pandora Hearts the story about a boy and a girl who have to figure out things the audience already figured out several episodes ago.
Nosredna
05-28-2009, 05:39 AM
I think then man in the memories is probably an adult version of Oz.
You really believe in the time warp theory. It will be interesting to see if that happens and how they explain it.
Speaking of the BLEEDING OBVIOUS that no one seems to be addressing, how about the fact that Alice, quite blatantly, used to be human?
Well I guess there's not much to say about it yet. But that's why I thought it was Oz's dad, but if we are reliving events over and over again I guess it could be Oz himself.
ArcticMech
05-29-2009, 12:05 AM
Speaking of the BLEEDING OBVIOUS that no one seems to be addressing, how about the fact that Alice, quite blatantly, used to be human?
Well I guess there's not much to say about it yet. But that's why I thought it was Oz's dad, but if we are reliving events over and over again I guess it could be Oz himself.
I'd have to agree that Alice once being human was pretty obvious. Funny how something so obvious would be ignored by everyone except one. I suppose everyone else was caught up in the other thing that's been blatantly obvious this entire time: Alice's awesomeness (which was in peak form in episode 8 btw).
I'm not even close to being sold on the person from the memory fragment being a grown-up version of Oz - though I don't deny the resemblance and the fact that there is a connection between the man in question and young Oz.
Other stuff:
Can't wait to see Sharon and Break's respective Chains. Not that they'd have anything on Alice!
Break was at his creepy best. I'd certainly hate to wake up to that! Poor Alice.
Looks like that new girl is part of Gil's current family given the name that was written on the paper/envelope that came with the flowers.
something
05-30-2009, 09:42 PM
Episode 3:
- Oz is actually taking this pretty well... which is good. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
- Haha oh god this little doll is creepy. Kill it! Kill it!
- Alice is awesome! Oz is... also pretty awesome, actually. "COOKIES!" XD These two are awesomely fun already.
- Oh and it's one of them human/demon contract plots. That's fine.
- And uh, Sharon time? She can enter Abyss at will huh?
- ...or not, lol. Jeeze, this show has some creepy imagery. It's done quite well.
- Its legs are made of baby heads. O_O
- >_> Did it just dismember Alice? And then it ate her. Ah!
Oh shit, that was fantastic. Alice makes the most deliciously evil "just as planned" smiles. And this BMG track sooooooooooo sounds like it's taken straight from a HiME/Otome episode. :sd: (Edit: and yeah, it's Kaijura)
something
05-31-2009, 12:13 AM
Episode 4:
- They still haven't addressed what if any time skip we've undergone... Raven being Gil seems like a given, but they're definitely hiding a lot from Oz right now and Sharon looks the same. What's going on? Hmm.
- Hah, Break is a bastard, but amusing. He's leaving Raven and Sharon in the dark about a lot of things.
- Oh yay, Alice was separated from Oz's body. Here's hoping she doesn't spend too much time inside it. We need to see her!
- Break talks a lot and I just end up with more questions. Then a Chain appears!
- Bwhahaa, sweet, crying Alice... next scene, angry, domineering Alice. =D
Well, really interesting setup. I very much like Oz and Alice, and team Pandora is great too. Break is just so hilariously open about how they'll all be blatantly using each other. Oh, I mean, "cooperating". Yeah. :sd:
something
05-31-2009, 01:24 AM
Episode 5:
- Ahahaha, ALICE! <3 She stands up on the chair so she can yell at them from above. XD
- Niiiiice. Oz kicks ass, we need more male leads like him. He gives Break a great look when he notes that not trusting people easily applies to Pandora at least as much as it would apply to Alice.
- Hmm. So is Oz really so clueless about the flower buyers motives, or does he have a plan here? He's been a too sharp so far to be so dense.
- Oh, so flower girl is the illegal contractee. Sucks to be her.
- I was going to say that it was nice to see that creepy dude get eaten (and it is), but it seems the girl's Chain ate the whole household too. :sd:
- Yep... definitely sucks to be flower girl.
- Ahahaha! Raven is a perfect rival for Alice. They get on each others' nerves soooo easily. Very interesting tidbit about Oz being Alice's first contractee - Raven was quite taken aback at that. The B-Rabbit isn't quite like the rumors indicated, eh?
Awesome again.
something
05-31-2009, 01:52 AM
Episode 6:
- Okay, so will we finally reveal that Raven is Gil in this ep? The preview after 5 nearly said as much. I'm not so interested in that (it seems obvious) itself, but I am interesting in knowing how much time passed. And why Sharon seems to look the same. I'd have to compare directly to be sure, but Oz hasn't commented on it. Heck, nobody's commented on the seeming passage of time at all.
- Flashbacks remind me... where the hell is cute little Ada? I hope she's okay, but she seems like prime material for a really dramatic illegal contractee subplot. =/
- Here, have some chicken! ALICE LOVE MEAT!
- Bwhaha, young Oz meeting Gil makes for a great flashback.
- Ah good, we're not kicking the Gil revelation farther down the line. Nice to get it out in the open here. Also, what a fantastic voice for Hirohashi Ryou. =D
- And a date! Ten years. Sounds about right, though I was guessing closer to 5. Now I'm really curious what the hell is up with Sharon.
- Maaaan, Hirohashi is awesome. I wonder if I've heard her in a villain role before. Nothing comes to mind.
- Nice cliffhanger.
something
05-31-2009, 02:31 AM
Episode 7:
- Hahaha, Oz is hilarious. Gil gets his emo on and tries to act all cool about staying quiet, and Oz is just like, "Hah! Lamer!" XD
- Oooh, Oz/Gil scene under the tree is fantastic. Great music and great visuals.
- But Alice feels left out, like she'll lose Oz to Gil now. =( And then she gets teased by... a bunny rabbit that continuously bleeds profusely. o_O And it's the Will of the Abyss?
- Oh wow, impressive kick.
- Ah! A cute happy looking Alice in a dress! Memory #2.
- Argh, the Will is so damn creepy as that little bunny. And let go of Alice!
- Fuuuuck, more awesomeness. We finally meet the "white rabbit", the Will of the Abyss. So who is voicing her? Is that just Kawasumi Ayako again?
This show is amazing.
something
05-31-2009, 02:36 AM
Well that just goes to show how well I was paying attention to the episodes :sd:. Wouldn't Oz want to return to his 'home' sometime then since he got back?
But remember what Break said - if Oz really cares about keeping his family safe, the last thing he should do is go anywhere near them or even tell them he's alive. The second he starts hanging around them, they become targets too. So as much as he might want to find out what happened to them (Break did promise that they're okay), he feels that the right thing to do is to stay away.
Which is undoubtedly correct, although it's also quite convenient for Break in that it puts Oz in a position where he has nowhere to go and has no choice but to accept the offer to join Pandora.
And damnit, I keep almost typing PANDRA because of Zettai Karen Children.
something
05-31-2009, 03:23 AM
Episode 8:
- Ahahaah Sharon! The way she teases Gil here is fantastic. He must be mortified. XD
- Nice entrance, Break. :sd: Hissing Alice for the win. I'm glad that, since Oz clearly isn't going to ask, Break decides to volunteer information about why he and Sharon don't age. It's nice to get some info about legal contractees, because I had found the concept of an illegal contractee odd since it didn't sound like contracts were allowed *at all*.
- Loving the song playing while Break launches into exposition mode. Loving even more how awesome Oz is at throwing everyone around him off their pace. Break builds up to an informational crescendo and Oz pulls the plug with a simple, "So what?" Hah.
- Ahaha, Gil is noticing something important in the letter but I'm too busy watching Alice try to eat the flowers. XD
- Oh god, the way she seeks out higher ground when lecturing people... <3
- Parent issues. I've been assuming that the blond man in Oz's dreams is his father.
lesterf1020
05-31-2009, 04:23 PM
Its nice to see someone else discover the awesomeness of Pandora Hearts. I have seen many different types of Tsunderes in my short anime life but Alice is my first awesome Tsundere. Oz is pretty fun and unusual too, a strange mix of carefree, action oriented, helpful and kind, and devilishly mischievous. Those two would make awesome friends who would get you into all kinds of fun trouble.
Break has reawakened all the feelings I had for Dio of Last Exile. The creepy, annoying yet amusing character who might be an antagonist but seems awfully helpful and obsessed with our heroes.
Fencedude
06-02-2009, 08:47 PM
Felli + Alice (not this Alice, the other Alice) == Echo
And Echo's AWESOME!
And Oz, if you have trauma about your parents, do go striking up conversations about parents. Thats just dumb.
Suwako Moriya
06-03-2009, 02:21 AM
Felli + Alice (not this Alice, the other Alice) == Echo
I can definitely see the Felli factor, but I'm not sure what you mean by other Alice. I take it you're either referring to the girl who looks almost like Alice as shown in the ending or some Alice from a different series.
And Echo's AWESOME!
Hence why they need to make sure we see and hear even more of her in the future.
On another note, I hope we're not going to fall into a trap where the illegal contractors and chains are able to do whatever they want because Oz doesn't want someone to get hurt.
Nosredna
06-05-2009, 10:40 PM
Felli + Alice (not this Alice, the other Alice) == Echo
And Echo's AWESOME!
Okay, I'll admit I have no clue who you are referencing here :sd:. But Echo is quite awesome.
On another note, I hope we're not going to fall into a trap where the illegal contractors and chains are able to do whatever they want because Oz doesn't want someone to get hurt.
Yeah I'm hoping this is a one time thing, otherwise it could get quite annoying fast.
Fencedude
06-09-2009, 06:42 PM
The highlight of the episode was definitely the Oz/Alice scene towards the end, they're really great together.
Echo continues to be cute *achoo*, and Vincent and Xerxes are...yeah...
Fencedude
06-09-2009, 06:43 PM
Felli + Alice (not this Alice, the other Alice) == Echo
And Echo's AWESOME!
Okay, I'll admit I have no clue who you are referencing here :sd:. But Echo is quite awesome.
The same Alice who shares a Seiyuu with both Echo and the person in your avatar.
Suwako Moriya
06-09-2009, 09:29 PM
The same Alice who shares a Seiyuu with both Echo and the person in your avatar.
*Takes a look* I should have known it was her.
Suwako Moriya
06-09-2009, 09:39 PM
The highlight of the episode was definitely the Oz/Alice scene towards the end, they're really great together.
I can't think of a better moment in the episode so I'm going to go with this one. In part due to the way conversation went and the timing of it.
Hopefully Echo will end up getting a decent role in the story.
The not so subtle conversation between Xerxes and Vincent was telling. Can I root against both of them?
something
06-10-2009, 06:00 PM
Episode 09:
- Haha oh wow, Oz's dad is a biiiiitch. Also, different seiyuu from the blond man in Oz's dreams.
- Wait, what? Hirohashi Ryou again? And despite it clearly looking like a different person, she also calls herself Echo. Of course with a name like Echo I wouldn't be surprised if there really were two of them. [Edit: No, wait, there is another Hirohashi Ryou but she was voicing the crazy hooded lady Zwei, who controlled the chain Doldum. But that one is the same as the hooded lady from back when Oz was taken down to abyss. I wonder if there's supposed to be any connection between Echo and Zwei]
- Oh man, this Echo is fantastic. And it's all in the voice. <3 Hirohashi.
- Also looks like it's #2 in what will undoubtedly be a long line of "nice people Oz meets that turn out to be illegal contractees and die".
- Or it could be his dad instead. Okay, so I amend that to "nice people Oz meets turn out to be or to be close to an illegal contractee and die(s)".
- Love the sudden chibi stuff, especially when Gil and Alice realize they can't undo the limiter. XD
- Oh don't stop her, Oz, you silly boy.
something
06-10-2009, 06:04 PM
On another note, I hope we're not going to fall into a trap where the illegal contractors and chains are able to do whatever they want because Oz doesn't want someone to get hurt.Yeah I'm hoping this is a one time thing, otherwise it could get quite annoying fast.
That's the one trap this show could fall into that would bother me the most. I'm really hoping his actions this time don't become the norm. On to ep 10...
something
06-10-2009, 06:39 PM
Episode 10:
- Oz you nitwit, you're lucky this guy is a horrible shot.
- Man you gotta love those anime flash floods. In the span between two sentences it can become an absolute downpour and soak everything.
- ...Alright Gil, it's time to earn your paycheck. How about shooting the lunatic some time this year?
- Oh he was unconscious. But someone else does the dirty work anyway. Oh Vincent, you're obviously not evil. Not evil AT ALL! Just like Break! :sd: (also, Fukuyama Jun...)
- Although Break and Vincent don't seem too fond of one another.
- Echo sneeze adorable~~
- Blah blah Oz's daddy issues.
- Alice! With wet hair! And shirt comes off! And a nice little moment between her and Oz.
- Ooooooh. Break vs Vincent is going to be an extremely entertaining side show.
I have to say, 9 and half of 10 were not nearly as good as the prior episodes. I guess I just don't care too much about Oz's emotional baggage - he's much cooler when he's being badass and/or nonchalant about everything. I also get tired of the obsession with saving people you know can't be saved, or deluding yourself into thinking they can.
That said, I'm thinking/hoping that we got that stuff out of the way with this. The second half of 10 was back up to par and things should get interesting from here on out.
ArcticMech
06-10-2009, 10:59 PM
Yeah, what everyone else basically highlighted already:
First half really dragged.
Echo's pretty cute with the gentle sneezes, but Vincent creeped me out when he was drying her hair like a little doll.
The Oz and Alice scene by the fireplace, back-to-back, was the best moment. Had a Torodora! flashback for some reason as I watched it.
Break vs. Vincent looks to be a good one. A match made in hell.
Suwako Moriya
06-11-2009, 02:53 AM
That said, I'm thinking/hoping that we got that stuff out of the way with this.
Yeah. If we're lucky they will have gotten the "I'm a contractor, my life sucks, and I'm doomed" stories out of their system. Then again, they are probably going to at the very least need other chains for Alice to fight...
Nosredna
06-11-2009, 08:14 PM
The highlight of the episode was definitely the Oz/Alice scene towards the end, they're really great together.
I can't think of a better moment in the episode so I'm going to go with this one. In part due to the way conversation went and the timing of it.
Being completely unoriginal, I'm going to have to agree with you guys (and everyone else who mentioned the scene). That was definitely my favorite part of the episode. Alice does things that just melts your heart sometimes, and other times she's just insane.
I'll forgive Oz for his crazy outburst last week and this week against the Chain, because of his daddy issues. But if every chain has a back story like that, I think we maybe in trouble.
Nosredna
06-16-2009, 08:37 PM
First of all, there wasn't enough Alice this episode, Sharon had a cute moment, but that didn't really make up for it. Learning about Gil's past wasn't the most interesting story, but it gave enough background information to help the plot keep moving. I think Alice and Oz had a similar reaction as me though :P. Looks like Oscar is alive and well though. Xerxes will always freak me out though, but he maybe the only one that knows what's going on (or possibly will happen).
Suwako Moriya
06-18-2009, 06:57 AM
Getting a bit more back story on Gil was definitely needed, so this episode was decent because of that. Speaking of the past, Vincent makes for a creepy child. Also it seems that Xerxes will always be Xerxes.
The Sharon moment was rather nice. She definitely needs more screen time. Speaking of screen time, I wonder how long it will take before I get to see Oz's sister again. The opening seems to give hope, but I'm an impatient person.
Nosredna
06-18-2009, 10:01 PM
The Sharon moment was rather nice. She definitely needs more screen time. Speaking of screen time, I wonder how long it will take before I get to see Oz's sister again. The opening seems to give hope, but I'm an impatient person.
Well the fact that Oscar knows Oz is alive and well, maybe that means his sister could find out soon too.
Suwako Moriya
06-19-2009, 02:36 AM
Well the fact that Oscar knows Oz is alive and well, maybe that means his sister could find out soon too.
That certainly does give hope, but I'm familiar with shows playing the last minute card.
Fencedude
06-22-2009, 04:28 AM
Definitely didn't have enough Alice.
Interesting background information though, but Gil is kinda tiring after a while.
Fencedude
06-23-2009, 12:45 AM
Now thats more like it!
Lots and lots of Alice awesomeness throughout the episode, and some amusing stuff from Xerxes as well.
And yes Alice, all memories aren't good ones...
Suwako Moriya
06-23-2009, 09:27 AM
Ah, we get an awesome Sharon related moment.
Xerxes is definitely quite the character. Yeah, that's some ninja trick.
Alice gets to be part of the most epic arm wrestling match ever!
It will be curious to see exactly what this memory involves. Since it's clear not a good one.
Nosredna
06-23-2009, 09:28 PM
Alice was so cute after she won the arm wrestling match.
And I'd much rather find out about Alice's memories than Gil's, but I guess we needed to get his back story out of the way sooner or later. Seems maybe Xerxes didn't have everything planned out like he thought, but it looks like Oz is back to being cool and Sharon's chain is quite interesting. Have we seen Xerxes' chain yet?
Nosredna
06-30-2009, 09:22 PM
Interesting to find out Alice wanted to get rid of her memories herself and that her worst memory is being held right where they are now. Finally seeing Sharon's chain was interesting. It seems to fit her perfectly. The more we learn about the past the more I get confused :sd:. But I guess it should be no surprise Oz and Jack pretty much look exactly alike (assuming Oz ever grows older). Oh and the Cheshire Cat was pretty creepy looking.
Fencedude
06-30-2009, 09:57 PM
WHAT DID YOU DO TO SHARON ECHO!?
Also, infodump episode! Hope there's more actual Alice next time.
Nosredna
07-01-2009, 08:52 PM
Hope there's more actual Alice next time.
That's two episodes out of three, I don't think it's a trend, but it is becoming quite disturbing.
Suwako Moriya
07-12-2009, 02:03 AM
Ah, so Alice was behind her own memory loss. It's kind of funny how the end result of a character erasing her own memories is that she ends up trying to get them restored. In some ways, it makes you wonder...
Suwako Moriya
07-12-2009, 02:05 AM
WHAT DID YOU DO TO SHARON ECHO!?
She better not have done any permanent damage or I might have trouble forgiving her. Don't get me wrong, Echo is cute, yes. However Sharon is prettier.
Suwako Moriya
07-12-2009, 02:33 AM
Oz gets to meet Jack. Jack who by the way is technically not so much Jack, but a fragment.
Break vs Cheshire Cat. It looks we get to the chain of break.
We get to discover that both Gil and Vincent are from 100 years ago. You've got to love the Abyss. You never know where or maybe I should say when you'll show up.
Oz manages to find Alice, sort of. He gets to learn the fact that she was indeed human. Well, at least until she was murdered. Whoever did it was pure evil.
Ah, it looks we've gotten ourselves a new ending. *Notices what is blatantly Oz's sister in the ending animation* Darn it, she better appear soon. It's like they're dedicated to making us wait.
Fencedude
07-12-2009, 02:39 AM
Huh, that was interesting. Alice being human was obvious, but her and Gil being involved in the Sabrie Tragedy is interesting.
Oh, and Break being the Mad Hatter is just so perfect.
Fencedude
07-12-2009, 03:05 AM
What Did They Do To My Sharon-chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!?
Suwako Moriya
07-12-2009, 09:04 PM
What Did They Do To My Sharon-chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!?
Good question. Wait, your Sharon-chan? Is this the part where I'm supposed to be jealous?
In any case, each time an episode like this comes up, I'm convinced that Oz is like two seconds away from well, let's just call it proposing to Alice.
Nosredna
07-19-2009, 12:59 PM
Oh, and Break being the Mad Hatter is just so perfect.
I didn't see that coming, but that was pretty cool. I wonder if that's the end of the Cheshire Cat? Overall good episode, things are falling into place like some of us thought, but there are still a lot of things that make you want to go crazy. I'm really enjoying how they are pacing the story.
Interesting new ending. I don't even remember what the old one was like :sd:.
Nosredna
07-21-2009, 06:52 PM
That was a beautiful moment Alice and Oz shared near the end there. Except for that thing coming out of her nose :sd:. I felt bad for the Cheshire Cat, sure he was crazy, but he cared for Alice, even though his way of showing it wasn't the best. Doesn't look like Oz and Alice came out in the best place though.
Nosredna
07-22-2009, 05:29 PM
Well I guess you guys were right and something happened to Sharon. But did Break actually get her back? I wonder if Jack is always going to show up when Oz is in trouble or if eventually Oz and Alice will have to win on their own. That scene of Jack at the end, was he surrounded by Alice and Gilbert? Oh and if Vincent wasn't bad news before, he definitely is now. Although who was that other girl sitting with the Baskerville people?
And as good as that episode was, watching the previews for episode 17 makes me even more excited.
Fencedude
07-25-2009, 12:31 AM
Hah, I knew it would be the Baskervilles. Rather annoyed that we didn't get any Sharon.
Oz and Jack are both really awesome when they're serious though.
Fencedude
07-25-2009, 12:55 AM
Twintail Alice with Zettai Ryouiki!
Busty Ada with Zettai Ryouiki!
THIS WAS THE BEST EPISODE EVER!
Nosredna
07-25-2009, 09:03 AM
Are you talking about episode 17?
Suwako Moriya
07-25-2009, 09:47 AM
Ah, so the "main boss" has been named. At least for now. Since there's always a chance someone else might be like "No, I want to be the main boss!"
Fencedude
07-25-2009, 01:35 PM
Whoops. Thats what I get for posting when I'm so tired.
something
07-25-2009, 05:47 PM
Super Ultra Mega Excellent Magical Catch-up Marathon Time!
Episode 11:
- Oh yeah, we left off with Alice only wearing a sheet! And Vincent is Gil's little brother, what?
- Well, adopted.
- No, wait, both adopted which means real brothers! :sd:
- Well, the backstory for Break, Vincent and Gil is actually fairly interesting, which is nice. I love that Oz fell asleep during it. =P
Oh, huh, that went by really fast. I thought the end was the halfway point at first. :sd: Interesting to see Oscar knows about Oz coming back now, I don't remember seeing him again yet. But where is my Ada!?
something
07-25-2009, 06:37 PM
Episode 12:
- Does Oscar really look 10 years older? Maybe he's contracted too, since he appears to be part of Pandora.
- Nice. "How did things end up like this?" indeed.
- Heh, Gil vs the woman? :sd:
- MEAT FOR ALICE!
- Sexy Sharon!
- lol Oz.
- Sexy Echo round!
- lol Oscar.
- Sexy... .... ... >_____>
- ALICE I LOVE YOU! And Gil, how nice of you to unseal her powers and eat away a little of Oz's life for your hat =P
- ::checks back to ep 1:: I *guess* Oscar looks like he aged. I dunno.
- Aww, don't run away, Alice.
- Ahahah, Break ninjutsu! I think he's my second favorite character after Alice. At least unless Sharon gets some focus (which she likely won't).
- Oh now that's one creepy Cheshire Cat. And his taste in interior decorating is a tad disturbing. Also, ALICE LOOOOVE.
- Break vs Break? And the memory for Alice is not a good one this time...
- Ah, this is how Oz should be. This is the cool Oz.
- Sexy sexy sexy sexy Sharon! Oz should have looked up after he jumped in and got some nice upskirt! =D
- Cheshire cat is a catboy?
something
07-25-2009, 07:01 PM
Episode 13:
- Haha, oh Sharon. Well you could have been sent to the wrong place but hey you didn't so it's all good!
- Sharon's Chain is a black unicorn? Huh.
- She doesn't look happy to see Echo... Don't you dare hurt Sharon, Echo! At least we learn a bit about Sharon and Break's motives.
- So the Cheshire Cat is Alice's cat, or rather her memories of it. And she's the one who sealed away her own memories? Also, uh, sucks ot be Gil.
- Huh, Pandora doesn't know about Oz coming back? But hah, poor Liam.
- Oh wow, we suddenly find out the blond man's identity. Jack Bezarius.
Looks like we're getting a few things revealed sooner than I expected, though there are still questions aplenty.
something
07-25-2009, 07:26 PM
Episode 14:
- "Hollow Eye Socket"? Sounds like a Break episode to me.
- Jack is sure taking a much more active role than I had expected.
- Break's Chain is Mad Hatter? Oh that's so fitting. I still don't quite know where he fits into the backstory though. He seems to have known Sharon since they were young though (and oh she's so cute).
- Alice's memory of being front and center at the Tragedy of Sabrie. Yeah, I can see how that would be an unpleasant memory.
- Well this is... confusing! Gil and Vincent were alive 100 years ago? In the same place young Alice was? ...Although that makes some sense. If they were somewhere that got sent into Abyss, they could have been trapped for all that time until they escaped and were found separately by Nightray and Bezarius. Alice, however, did not escape until she found Oz.
- Alice was human! ...Well I guess I had sort of assumed as much, but okay.
And hey, stabbed to death by scissors = new upbeat ED! ...:sd:
Edit: Oh crap, is that some sexy grown up zettai ryouiki Ada!?
something
07-25-2009, 08:09 PM
Episode 15:
- "Who Killed Poor Alice?" ...Well, Vincent I would assume. He even seemed to be taking credit for all the deaths in the castle. :sd:
- At the young boy's scream, the time will be... Two o' Clock.
- Why is these so damn little Alice in this show? Goddamn.
- The rampaging power of the B-Rabbit is stopped by a slap? =P
- Gah, someone put Cheshire out of his misery already. And stop dilly dallying and help Alice out!
- Finally! Now, no more arcs where Alice just waits passively to be rescued, please!
- At least break is still totally awesome. Yay for managing to kill Cheshire before Oz could moan and whine about saving everyone.
- And ahaha, way to make an entrance, you two.
And seriously... where is Sharon!? We saw Echo... And Eques is okay. But where is she?
something
07-25-2009, 08:42 PM
Episode 16:
- lol Alice. I like how we come out of one arc straight into this action.
- And Break and Gil are already out of there, interesting.
- Looks like Jack will still be playing a very active role, to the point of taking over Oz's body.
- Damn Jack is cool.
- And Vincent with scissors! Totally not a hint!
- Well Jack sure just got a lot of people involved in something big.
- Damnit Break, where is Shaaaaaroooooon?
- Break likes cake! I love how he carries things on his head.
- Vincent friends with the Baskervilles? SHOCK! (not really). But one of them looks very cute =D
something
07-25-2009, 09:11 PM
Episode 17:
- SHAAAAARON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAY! <3 <3 <3 Also, some backstory on her and Break now?
- Well they're sure ratcheting up Vincent's BASTARDOMETER. Not only does he kidnap Sharon, and was conneted to the Tragedy, and has poisoned Sharon, he's even poisoned Echo, who he treats like a peice of garbage. All so he can get the past erased. That bitch.
- I liked Break before but I like him even more now. He talks about using all the people around him, but in order to save Sharon he just gave up what should be the most important thing in the world to him. Fuck yeah, Break! And Fuck yeah, Echo! ...I can only imagine the beating she got from Vincent for that though. ;_;
- Ahahaha! Sharon pulls out the harisen! And Break acts like he doesn't care about her, but bah, we know the truth!
- Oh, there we go. There was a good deal of setup about Break's eye in the Cheshire Cat arc, but then nothing actually came of it. Then all of a sudden here he says that was his eye. :sd:
- Hey look, it's Alice! Remember her, guys? I think she was one of the characters in this show but I'm not sure!
- OMG TWINTAILED ALICE!!!!!!!!! ...Not sure I'm feeling her outfit though.
- ADA!!!!! I sure bet she's making the boys cry.
- But Alice's outfit has zettai ryouiki! Now I approve!
- Don't smoke in a library, dumbass.
- ADA!!!!!!!!!
- Oh man those are some twintails, Alice.
- HOLY EVER LOVING SHIT, ADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahahaha, a tender moment brought to a screeching halt as Alice declares him her manservant =D
- Hah! Gil crush on Ada confirmed!
- lol, poor Gil.
I need twintailed Alice x Kooh x Azunyan fanart ASAP.
Suwako Moriya
07-29-2009, 07:57 AM
It's nice to get a better idea as to how Break feels about Sharon. The relationship has some potential.
Wow. Time has been quite good to Ada. She's become quite hot. It's also nice that a reunion with Ada leads to fun moments in general.
Oh, and twin tails Alice. This might be the best episode so far.
Nosredna
07-29-2009, 07:31 PM
Touching reunion between brother and sister. Although Alice's jealous while ugly is quite cute too.
Guess we are moving into the couples portion of the show now.
Nosredna
08-06-2009, 08:20 PM
Seems like Oz hates spoilers as much as some people around here :sdsmiley:. I like how Alice went from being jealous of Ada, to forgetting her and wanting to find the food. It's scary how popular Gil is with the young ladies. Who knew the Baskerville woman would be so good looking? Guess they really want Jack and not Oz at this moment. And it would make sense that Eliot would be a Nightray, I wonder if that's who Ada really loves.
Nosredna
08-09-2009, 06:02 PM
I really enjoyed the back story this episode. Finding out Jack and Glenn were
friends, the Bezarius family was just a third rate noble family and they gained their fame after Jack killed Glenn was interesting. I wonder what made Glenn snap and want everyone dead, maybe I missed that in a previous episode :sd:. Lotti was pretty cute when she was younger. Funny I liked this episode and Alice was barely in it, I guess this show really has grown on me.
something
08-15-2009, 11:27 PM
Episode 18:
- SPOILERS! EDGAR DIES! Poor Oz, he just got super mega terribly spoiled. ;_;
- Spoilers are one of the most unforgivable acts in this world! Leo understands! He understands!!
- Good god damn Ada is far too hot. And Oz is being kinda awesome again now. Also, Leo is fun. Elliot is the type of character I dont anticipate ever caring for though.
- TWINTAILED ALICE WANTS MEAT!!
- Hahaha, and Gil collects fangirls who don't realize he's completely gay for Oz. Even though he's surrounded by so much zettai ryouiki!
- orz!
- Awww, that was such a sweet scene between Oz and Ada... THEN SUDDENLY BADDIES.
- Meanwhile Alice finds the bbq-bu. XD
- Sheesh, didn't take Ada long to start getting shat on after she finally came back.
- Leo really is awesome. I'm going to like him a lot. Watanabe Akeno works perfectly.
- lol lottie.
- Hmm, maybe Elliot isn't so bad, though I still doubt I'll like him outside of when he's kicking ass. Leo is better anyway!
Oz really did need to get bitched out like that though.
Nosredna
08-15-2009, 11:44 PM
Well that was an interesting episode. Learning what type of drunk everyone is was funny. I think I like stripping Alice the best, but dominatrix Sharon and drunk Gil were quite funny too. Sharon giving Alice advice about love and having her call her 'big sister' was priceless. I assume Eliot is also from the past, but I'm sure most people are thinking that too, so maybe that's too obvious.
And damn, no episode next week :depressed:.
something
08-15-2009, 11:57 PM
Episode 19:
- Huh, suddenly almost 10 minutes in. Anyway, lots of fighting and stuff and then... well, yeah, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to mess with a Jack and B-Rabbit tag-team. Lottie and friends are screwed.
- Hey flashback time. Jack knew Lottie (oh man, I did not recognize her at all) and Glen?
- Lottie is so cute back then.
- Oh god, Jack is pretty badass in general (well nowadays) but a pissed off Jack is someone you soooooo don't want to deal with.
- Though no big confrontation yet. Where did Alice go after B-Rabbit was unsummoned?
- And while Oz has been fairly cool on occasion, this little revelation of his should result in moe consistent awesomeness. I hope.
But, like, didn't Lottie's Chain look like it could totally have been a transformed version of one of Ada's cats? :sd:
Also, the SUPER DRAMATIC MUSIC in the next episode previews is hilarious when the images accompanying it very clearly scream "COMEDY EPISODE!" =P
Fencedude
08-16-2009, 12:04 AM
Ada really is ludicrously hot.
And I freaking love Lottie!
Suwako Moriya
08-16-2009, 12:20 AM
Ah, nothing like having a discussion on the evils of spoilers.
Alice wants meat and Alice should get whatever she wants.
An argument over the idea of "self sacrifice". I always found one major problem with it is that it puts way too much trust in the enemy. Oh, sure, like they're NEVER going to do anything bad again just because you're dead.:sweat:
Lottie may be evil, but she's also hot. So that has to have some worth, right?
Suwako Moriya
08-16-2009, 12:20 AM
Ada really is ludicrously hot.
And I freaking love Lottie!
For some reason, I suddenly imagined Lottie seducing Ada in order to bring her to the dark side.
Fencedude
08-16-2009, 12:28 AM
So...uhh...Lotti's hot, and Jack's pretty awesome, but god damn this show does not have enough Alice.
Edit: This may just be a character design issue, but anyone else think Lotti looks a lot like Sharon?
something
08-16-2009, 12:52 AM
So...uhh...Lotti's hot, and Jack's pretty awesome, but god damn this show does not have enough Alice.
She's clearly just intended as a way of tricking people like us into watching this show. Then we do, and she's gone for huge chunks of time. =(
Edit: This may just be a character design issue, but anyone else think Lotti looks a lot like Sharon?
In that dress, yeah. When I first saw her in the flashback I thought it was a grown up Sharon, or Sharon's great grandmother or something. Whether that's of any significance or whether the character designs just look too similar when placed in those big dresses, I don't know. But I'd bet on the latter.
Suwako Moriya
08-16-2009, 12:59 AM
One has to wonder if Glen woke up one day and decided that he just wanted to be pure evil.
That dress looks rather nice on Lotti. I get the feeling for her it was a case of "Well, since I killed enough people I think I'll be evil now".
Suwako Moriya
08-16-2009, 01:55 AM
Sharon decided she wanted to be extra awesome this episode.
Multiple characters decided they wanted to be drunk.
The preview decided to give indicated that we might actually see the Will of the Abyss again. I almost forgot she existed...
Wait, the show is skipping a week? Darn that makes three series so far. Is this some sort of evil plot?
Wait, the show is skipping a week? Darn that makes three series so far. Is this some sort of evil plot?
Evil plot? No, just a major multi-day holiday celebration in Japan. Namely the Obon Festival.
Suwako Moriya
08-16-2009, 12:20 PM
Wait, the show is skipping a week? Darn that makes three series so far. Is this some sort of evil plot?Evil plot? No, just a major multi-day holiday celebration in Japan. Namely the Obon Festival.
Ah, so that would explain it. Obon Festival, I believe I'd heard that name multiple times in the past several weeks.
I have to admit I'm 1/25 curious as to what will be shown in place of Pandora Hearts and Taishou Yakyuu Musume. I guess there's only one way to find. Granted even if I watch during the time, it might be a show that leaves me thinking "What the heck is that?"
Fencedude
08-22-2009, 02:48 AM
Clearly no one here is underage!
Absolutely hilarious. Otome-mode Sharon is awesome (when did she grow tits anyway?) and seeing everyone get smashed was great.
something
08-30-2009, 01:19 AM
Episode 20:
- Sharon and Break! Yay! I also see Sharon is a graduate of the Harisen school of discipline. <3
- Alice is feeling lonely!
- HAHAHA! Shaon! LOOOOOOVE. Her sparkles can cause physical damage! This Sharon is Best Sharon!
- OTOME SWITCH! HOLDING HANDS! SHARON VISION! SHARON-ONEESAMA! YOU ARE THE BEST!!
- Sharon is going to teach Alice about romance... gently.
- She has such fitting books.
- Dual wield!
- Oh god this is the best episode of the show yet.
- "There are no minors!" XD I love the logic.
- ALICE UNDERBOOB! I did not think we'd get to see that. God damn. Why wasn't the show like this all along?
- Drunken Sharon is a dom.
- Poor maid. XD
- Sharon is dom and Oz seems to like being sub. How well that works out.
- Harisens evertwhere!
God damn, should I even watch more? There's no way the show can top this episode. Not possible.
something
08-30-2009, 02:51 AM
Episode 21:
- Alright I guess I'll keep watching, even if otome switch alice underboob drunken madness was unquestionably the climax of this series.
- And we get Alice in a big red dress! The gang is being given an audience with someone important sounding.
- The guy they meet is... god damn I thought he was a Chain. He's bizarre to say the least.
- Really, really bizarre. I don't even know how to describe him. Does Reim really know this guy? o_O
- So Duke Barma seems to know many, many things. Including Break's real name - Kevin Regnard.
- And the crazy *thing* they've been talking to isn't the Duke, which isn't too surprising. The real Barma is, uh, kind of a dick.
- Also, some questionable pacing in this episode as we launch into Break's past as an illegal contractee (he has the clock mark Oz has, but it's completed its circle) who killed quite a few people feeding his chain.
- 116 to be exact, but he was cast into Abyss anyway, as the circle completed. There he met the Will, and Cheshire. Somehow, he got out, and was able to become a contractee again.
- But before that... The Will totally plucks his eye right out. Just sticks her fingers in there and rips it out and gives it to Cheshire. Ouch.
- Ah and this was happening at the same time as the Tragedy at Sabrie. Which brought young Vincent into Abyss, carrying... someone?
This episode felt pretty awkward in parts and I wasn't expecting this sudden infodump (I really feel like I missed an episode) but there was some good stuff in here.
Magewolf
08-30-2009, 04:46 PM
Episode 21:
- Ah and this was happening at the same time as the Tragedy at Sabrie. Which brought young Vincent into Abyss, carrying... someone?
This episode felt pretty awkward in parts and I wasn't expecting this sudden infodump (I really feel like I missed an episode) but there was some good stuff in here.
We get confirmation that people in the abyss become chains and it seems likely that Vincent opened the door to the abyss so the way might be open for the baskervilles to be painted in a better light.If Glen knew about but could not stop a door to the abyss being opened then all that he might have been able to do was order everyone in the area killed.
Nosredna
08-30-2009, 07:00 PM
Wow that was one messed up episode, I do agree the pacing seemed off and we got a lot of information. Alice in the red dress was quite spectacular. This is definitely a show I'm going to need to marathon once it's all done, just because there's so much I know I've missed or misunderstood.
Nosredna05
09-06-2009, 09:34 AM
Well I guess it makes sense that Alice and the Will of the Abyss are twins. Again they are getting into some pretty deep topics, but it's still clear that Vincent is one messed up person. It's always good to see Oz show some backbone. Pretty good episode, I can't wait to see how this all plays out.
Nosredna05
09-12-2009, 11:16 PM
Seems this episode was the calm before the storm. They set up things nicely for the end, although with how laid back this episode was, I wonder why they seemed to throw so much at us before, or maybe they were just giving us a break before the final episodes. I'm sure a lot of people loved that scene with Ada calling out to her big brother. Now I just want to know how Alice can eat all that food :sd:. Oh and when she's in her B-Rabbit form, she really is a badass.
Fencedude
09-13-2009, 11:38 PM
Ah! The Will of the Abyss is spectacular. Love her.
Fencedude
09-14-2009, 12:10 AM
Well I guess it makes sense that Alice and the Will of the Abyss are twins. Again they are getting into some pretty deep topics, but it's still clear that Vincent is one messed up person. It's always good to see Oz show some backbone. Pretty good episode, I can't wait to see how this all plays out.
I like how the nice and sweet version of Alice is the Will of the Abyss. I find that amusing. Granted she's insane too, but thats beside the point.
something
09-14-2009, 12:20 AM
Episode 22:
- Ah, that explains why Cheshire didn't have eyes. Vincent is a sadistic little bitch isn't he? And obviously he's the one who killed Alice...
- Sad crying Will is disturbingly cute. So is happy tea party Alice.
- Infodump continues! And just like last week, the pacing is not optimal.
- But it's followed by Alice cuteness. And amusing Break stuff.
- And then talking and stuff.
Not bad, but I hope these two episodes got a lot of the backstory out of the way so we can spend more time in the present for the last few eps.
Fencedude
09-14-2009, 12:37 AM
I want to see Sharon go into OTOME MODE with Ada.
Anyway, looks like hte final arc is starting, wonder if we'll get any real answers.
something
09-14-2009, 01:01 AM
Episode 23:
- And we jump into more Chain fighting.
- Ada!! And Oz's overprotective guard. :sd:
- Heh, Break is right. Who do you trust more? A bunch of nameless guards, or Break, Sharon, Gil and Alice?
- Sharon and Ada together <3
- Heh way to mess up Gil's plans, Oz.
- Echo-chan! Yeah, I had completely forgotten about her.
- Lots of talk about how to learn more about Sabrie. And stupid Oz, go shopping with Ada.
- Dur, it finally just clicked with me that Lacie = Alice.
- And we stomp some Trumps while the city burns, wee.
Fencedude
09-14-2009, 01:03 AM
- Dur, it finally just clicked with me that Lacie = Alice.
*facepalms*
Thats so obvious I can't believe I missed it.
Nosredna05
09-14-2009, 05:50 AM
- Dur, it finally just clicked with me that Lacie = Alice.
*facepalms*
Thats so obvious I can't believe I missed it.
Crap, I don't even remember who Lacie is :sd:.
Fencedude
09-14-2009, 05:51 AM
- Dur, it finally just clicked with me that Lacie = Alice.
*facepalms*
Thats so obvious I can't believe I missed it.
Crap, I don't even remember who Lacie is :sd:.
Lacie is the song played by Oz's watch
Nosredna05
09-14-2009, 04:07 PM
- Dur, it finally just clicked with me that Lacie = Alice.
*facepalms*
Thats so obvious I can't believe I missed it.
Crap, I don't even remember who Lacie is :sd:.
Lacie is the song played by Oz's watch
Ah thanks. I really should pay better attention.
something
09-19-2009, 02:37 AM
Episode 24:
- Trumps and Chains everywhere, oh yay. Though they're totally recycling the Chain designs from earlier.
- Heh, Break doesn't even need his Chain.
- "My child is still inside the house!" You know, just once, JUST ONCE, I want to see the protagonist turn aroud and say, "Go get the brat yourself, I have things to do!"
- Yeaaaaah, kinda hax there, Mad Hatter.
- Heh, watching Oz so his little run and roll move amused me for some reason.
- More fighting, giant winged monster type thing, Oz's true powers, etc.
And blushing Alice! Well, not a lot of time left in this show, huh? And, uh, from what I'm seeing the next episode is he last. How in the world...? I really thought this battle would transition right into the next episode but we really resolved this issue and came to another break. What can they possibly do in one more episode? Are they just setting up for a second season?
I can't imagine how 24 minutes, possibly minus OP and ED, is going to be enough to finish this off.
Suwako Moriya
09-19-2009, 01:12 PM
I think that guy is intent on scaring small children or heck anyone that breathes probably.
Alice is at least wearing a nice dress.
Ah, some Break related stuff.
The Will of the Abyss is like trying to be the creepiest girl ever.
Nosredna05
09-20-2009, 09:42 AM
And blushing Alice! Well, not a lot of time left in this show, huh? And, uh, from what I'm seeing the next episode is he last. How in the world...? I really thought this battle would transition right into the next episode but we really resolved this issue and came to another break. What can they possibly do in one more episode? Are they just setting up for a second season?
I can't imagine how 24 minutes, possibly minus OP and ED, is going to be enough to finish this off.
That's what I was trying to figure out myself. Hopefully there is a second season, because I've really enjoyed this show.
And the Mad Hatter really is a badass. His powers are just awesome. Alice blushing was definitely amazing as well.
Suwako Moriya
09-23-2009, 01:12 AM
It's nice to spend some quality time with Alice finally. She sadly hasn't gotten that much screen time compared to Alice. Although if I had to choose between Alice and Alice, I'd say I like Alice better.
So the classic lesson of "changing the past does not always give better results" is in this show as well. And Break gets to be the one experiencing the lesson.
I wonder what at point Vincent became the pure evil monster he is. Maybe he was always like this. I can already imagine his first words must have been unsettling.
Suwako Moriya
09-23-2009, 01:40 AM
I want to see Sharon go into OTOME MODE with Ada.
That would be awesome to see. Especially given their figures.
Suwako Moriya
09-23-2009, 01:41 AM
Dur, it finally just clicked with me that Lacie = Alice.
Ah, yes, there's nothing like the trick of rearranging the letters.
Suwako Moriya
09-23-2009, 02:39 AM
That's a lot of chains! I'm suddenly reminded of those games where you either had to destroy a re-spawn point or kill some specific enemy to get the monsters to stop appearing.
So one more episode remains. Like others I'm going to be worried. I can't imagine them wrapping up all the remaining plot threads without doing a poor job of it. Maybe it would be better for them to focus on select points and save the rest for another season?
Suwako Moriya
09-24-2009, 12:11 PM
Well, the tune they played near the end of the episode was kind of nice. As far as I can tell it's one of those "Hope for another season" scenarios.
Also, they played a preview for Kampfer. Which gives me an idea what's taking its slot.
Nosredna05
09-25-2009, 07:50 PM
I couldn't resist waiting any longer and while I can't say I understood everything that happened, I guess it's an alright ending. Watching Alice break those chains and fight at the end gave me goosebumps. I'm hoping for another season, but if not I'm definitely picking up the manga.
Oh and that was a nice song played near the end.
something
09-27-2009, 12:23 AM
Time to see how much of a non-ending this gets.
Episode 25:
- Ah right, Oz's dad wouldn't be at the Bezarius mansion, since he's presumably with the Baskervilles.
- Hahah, Alice is just the cutest thing. Delicious meat is exciting!
- Oh. I'm glad Alice explained it because Oz was freaking the fuck out and I couldn't recognize what was familiar about Gryphon at all. So yeah daddy sent you to the Abyss. Because he knew you were the reincarnation of Jack, and bait for the Will, or whatever it was Break had surmised.
- Whelp, that little bit of news sent Oz back into knee-hugging mode. With about 12-14 minutes left in the show, depending on if they run the usual ED.
- But he got over it quickly. Good job, Alice.
- Leisurely approaching the final[?] confrontation with 9 minutes left? :sd:
- "How was it?" "We had a long conversation." "And?" "I don't get what he said." lol, Alice.
- I'm with Alice. Beat the crap out of your dad, Oz.
- ...Oh jeeze, they sure did. :sd: Or his Chain anyway.
- They stick us with the regular ED. Ah well.
So uh, what now? Oz just showed that he's essentially invincible. He and Alice annihilated one of the primary Gate Chains in one shot. He's got another (Raven) as his wookie life debt partner. He's got the most powerful force from Abyss, B Rabbit, by his side. He's allied with Break, who has the anti-Abyss instakill Chain, Mad Hatter. And he's got the hero Jack Bezarius inside of him if all else fails and the need some help in a pinch. Oh, and Oz himself is finally feeling confident. I'm kinda thinking it's the Baskervilles who are fucked now. Edit: And his sister is hot. Sharon too. And Alice of course.
Well, here's hoping for a season two. I guess all things considered this wasn't all that bad as a cut-off point, but it doesn't work as an open ended ending if no more will ever be made. That's not exclusively the ending's fault though, it's been clear for a little while that they couldn't wrap this up in two cour. At least the DVDs are selling okayish (~5k) so hopefully that's enough.
Fencedude
10-04-2009, 04:10 AM
Huh...that was certainly resolved faster than I expected. Now what?
I guess I'll go find out...
Fencedude
10-04-2009, 04:40 AM
Edit: And his sister is hot. Sharon too. And Alice of course.
I believe these were the most important things, of course.
So...that was interesting. Season 2, please?
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