Shin Mazinger Shogeki Z-hen Discussion Thread

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Its Mazinger Z for the next generation

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[Andrew Cunningham]

Anything from the director of Giant Robo always gets me excited, though he's disappointed more often than not.

[Suwako Moriya]

All right decided to try this out for the heck of it. So far it seems to be a mixture of cool, confusing, and chaotic. Although it might make more sense on a re-watch and/or to people more familiar with Mazinger in general.

Either way it feels like we've been thrown into the middle of a major battle. The type you'd usually see near the end and it seems like the battle still isn't over yet. I wonder if this means the true flow might not happen until episode 3 or 4.

I'm not completely sold yet, but I'm leaning towards giving it another episode or two sometime in the undetermined future. It depends on how I feel and perhaps what certain other people say about it. Regardless, I wanted to try at least one episode.

[strangefour]

Yay, finally a break from all the Shin Getter, New Getter, Neo Getters and back to Mazinger. Not that I don't like Getter Robo. It's just been getting way too many revamps compaired to Mazinger Z.

It's always nice to come back to a Go Nagai show. He makes only anime I can watch without subs and know exactly what's going on. From the minds of mortal men, the mightiest of machines.

[Magewolf]

All right decided to try this out for the heck of it. So far it seems to be a mixture of cool, confusing, and chaotic. Although it might make more sense on a re-watch and/or to people more familiar with Mazinger in general.



I am just hoping that someone subs this so that I can understand what is happening between fights.

[Andrew Cunningham]

I am not entirely sure the human brain is capable of processing such sustained, concentrated awesomeness.
Imagawa keeps this up the whole series, adding a little coherency in along the way, and he might well live up to Giant Robo at last.

[Fencedude]

That not only did not make sense, it REVELED in not making sense.

I think we just saw the end of the series? Or...something?

Also, holy crap, was that GREAT?!

Edit: Oh yeah, and that was the Ankoku Daishogun there at the beginning, and aparently Zeus is a...Mazinger?

THIS MAKES NO SENSE BUT IT WAS FUCKING AWESOME

[Suwako Moriya]

I think we just saw the end of the series? Or...something?

So this might turn out to be yet another series where they show an event from near the end of the story then jump back to the beginning? Regardless I just hope the pacing becomes normal by episode 2 or 3.

[Kusaja]

I am not entirely sure the human brain is capable of processing such sustained, concentrated awesomeness.
Imagawa keeps this up the whole series, adding a little coherency in along the way, and he might well live up to Giant Robo at last.

This is certainly the most awesome first episode I've seen this season, but yes...this was a great way to show what Imagawa is capable of and where he wants to go with this, but now he just needs to slow down and get us there. I really did think back to Giant Robo at a few key moments, which is a great sign in my book. Also a little bit of Mazinkaiser here and there, but of course, that wasn't Imagawa.

If I'm not wrong, he really hasn't tried to do anything on that scale again though, at least not until now...or has he?

[Mazinkaizer]

Here are my thoughts:

I agree about this being the best 1st eps of the shows i watched so far, and possibly for a long time. Pretty much the same pace & feeling i had when i watched the 1st eps of Mazinkaizer yet with some new touches.

The eps finished so quickly without me realizing :catgirl: ! that eps did not make any sense in terms of story or connectivity but who cares.....it was SUPER !!!

It seems that Ankuko Dai Shogun part is the another advanced arc of the story, then the eps turned to a flashback before that. I am not sure though if this eps marks the actual beginning of the story or the show is intended to start this way without wasting time to build the story, characters that almost everyone know about Mazinger.

Humm, is it just me or did i see a glimpse of Great Mazinger behind the fire scene ?

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Humm, is it just me or did i see a glimpse of Great Mazinger behind the fire scene ?

Almost definitely, and that seemed to be THE PRO out in front of it...

[Westlo]

I am just hoping that someone subs this so that I can understand what is happening between fights.

Same team from a group of subbers who did Casshern Sins are doing this.

[regz91]

I think we just saw the end of the series? Or...something?

So this might turn out to be yet another series where they show an event from near the end of the story then jump back to the beginning? Regardless I just hope the pacing becomes normal by episode 2 or 3.

Episode 1 Title: "Finale"
Episode 2 Title: "Start Up! Mazinger!"

Speaks for itself, really.

I'm not even going to comment on this episode, since its only purpose was to overwhelm the senses, which by God it most certainly did.

[VinceA]

That was seventeen kinds of Go Nagai crazy... and I love it. That was without understanding a word of it.

[Suwako Moriya]

Episode 1 Title: "Finale"
Episode 2 Title: "Start Up! Mazinger!".

All right then, that definitely explains a lot for me.

[Vicserr]

I couldn't wait and watched this RAW, so I might be off in a lot of things, I was just Blown Away!

*Koji gives us some sort of briefing
*The Isle of Bardos is in Flames
*The Great General of Darkness is here?!
*Dr. Hell Crawls Away from the debris
*Koji Calls Scrander and docks with it
*Scarnder deploys Fingers?!? and envelops Mazinger! (Z-Mazinger Scrander)
*As a Ginormus Rocket Punch Aproaches the Great General we see Prof Yuzo Kabuto (Koji's grandfather) riding it?!
*The Photon Researh Institute is Under Attack
*A guy riding a tiger and controlling animals attacks the lab,
*The Mazinger Army and Venus Ace blast off, driving out for a moment the intruder... this guy is Vizcount Pigman?
*The shields are raised by the Profs. Mori Mori, Sewashi and Nossori
*We go to a strange woman house as the Mazinger Army flies to help Koji
*As the City is filled with Dr Hell, His Minions (Count Blocken, Baron Ashura) their Fortresses (Gore and -multiple- Budo), Lots of Kikaiju and Tesukamen troops
*The weird woman appears to Baron Ashura and unleases a "Yakuza Gang" that attacks the invading forces
*A shot of the Pillars of heaven with statues and stuff appears
*Duke Gorgon Appears as he hits the statues
*We see Mazinger standing under a Greek Temple in the sky where a monster octopus comes down
*the Octopus is destroyed by a giant golden figure in Mazinger like armor, It's Zeus!!
*We get some well dressed cyborg sitting in a chair speaking about the history of Zeus
*We see Zeus kicking A$$ Go Nagai style
*we see the mysterious woman reflected off the cyborg's eye
*Zeus stands above Mazinger
*The Cyborg continues the story and tells us about when Dr. Yuzo Kabuto and Dr. Hell explored the Isle of Bardos
*We see a girl laying down as the Cyborg and the mysterious Woman continue to talk
*Suddenly Kenzo Kabuto Appears (Koji's Dad)
*The Mysterious woman is startled, draws a knife and attacks Kenzo
*a red beam illuminates the darkness
*Koji is escaping the octopus monster
*The octopus monster speaks, Koji shoots it in the eye
*As lots of glass comes raining down and monster pouring out of their containers, Dr. Hell is mad
*Dr Yumi is startled
*As the profs. lie on the floor, VizCount Pigman and his minions enter the lab and surround the profs.
*Sayaka and the Mazinger Army fight the Kikaiju
*After covering Sayaka, Lori and Roli get killed (like always, with the robot boob grab of death)
*Sayaka lands and goes for her father, askiing forgiveness for the failure of the Mazinger Army
*Vizcount Pigman threathens Sayaka and Prof Yumi!!!!!
*The Detective and the Assassin android Galia appear and Galia takes Pigman out!!!
*Pigman upper half separates and tries to escape, but is taken out by someone(who looks like Tetsuya Tsurugi)... with Great Mazinger!!!! at his back
*Air Fortress Gore pierces the clouds with an escort of flying Kikaiju and Count Bloken in control
*The Big Bang Punch crashes thru Gore and Koji appears, with a thrist for vengeance for the Mazinger Army, the Lab and Shiro (Koji's younger brother)!
*Count Blocken's head activates a Kikaiju in his own image (in the original series only Baron Ashura had a kikaiju that looked like him)
*and it inmediately get a taste of Breast Fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Gore crashes in the staging area where Baron Ashura is.... OUCH!
*Dr. Hell Appears pissed off...
*3 flying islands hover over mount Fuji
*Mazinger rises thru the debris
*Koji calls on the spirit of his friends and fallen commarades to face the forces of the flying islands
*A defiant Rocket Punch is fired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think this is a preview of what's to come during the series...in one word.... Bring it on!!!!

[Rando]

The cyborg and little girl are Dr. Heinrich and his daughter Lorelei. They both appeared in the original anime and manga. Glad to see them included!

[Darkseid]

I enjoyed this preview ep. It's all I needed for now, especially since there was no 'burning passion' type opening sequence yet. This was the appetizer, and I'm ready for the main course.

[regz91]

The woman in charge of the Kurogane-ya is Tsubasa Nishikiori, from Violence Jack and other Go Nagai works. In general, it seems that the Kurogane-ya will be a dumping ground for characters from other Nagai manga, Giant Robo-style.

[HellKorn]

I was confused, awestruck, bored, touched and excited all in one episode.

Definitely curious for more.

[strangefour]

I stand corrected. I only half knew what was going on other than huge slatherings of Chokogin armored awesomeness. I guess this Kurogane gang I never heard of will be explained, but Boss is with them so they have to be good. It's a JAM Project opening theme and some cleavage short of exactly what I love about any Go Nagai mecha show.

[Vicserr]

The cyborg and little girl are Dr. Heinrich and his daughter Lorelei. They both appeared in the original anime and manga. Glad to see them included!

I had forgotten about those 2, from Ep 63 I think. And something for the Chogokin Lover in All of US (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxSDht4aJZs)!!

[regz91]

For anyone who might have doubted Yasuhiro Imagawa's passion for this project . . . BEHOLD!!! (http://ranobe.com/up/src/up350603.jpg )

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For anyone who might have doubted Yasuhiro Imagawa's passion for this project . . . BEHOLD!!! (http://ranobe.com/up/src/up350603.jpg )

Ahh...?

Someone or another vs. Mazinger?

Proton...something?

Koshuryouku BEEEEEEEEMUU?

[Kiggy]

I'd love to see this dubbed.


In spanish. ;)

By the same cast as the mexican dub Vicserr and me (and others here I'm sure) saw in the late 70's/early 80's if possible.:P

[Andrew Cunningham]

For anyone who might have doubted Yasuhiro Imagawa's passion for this project . . . BEHOLD!!! (http://ranobe.com/up/src/up350603.jpg )

Writing every episode, and storyboarding the bulk of them? Yeah, he's had this one churning for a while.

[Gundamhead]

Wow what the fuck just happened? I'd like to tell you how great it was but this ep beat me senseless and now my brain is oozing out my ear. It was sort of like a Bizzarro World Micheal Bay movie (by which I mean not sucking Goats.)

It seems this episode was actually some sort of half hour commercial for the rest of the show. So I can't do any sort of actual review until we get a real episode.

I'm definitely going to keep watching though.

GIANT MECHA GOD FIST!!!1!

[LordGeo]

Wow, this episode was crazy!

Seeing Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, Z Mazinger, AND the Mazinger Army I'm kind of hoping to see the show bring in God Mazinger at one point. Yeah, this episode didn't make all too much sense, but it sure was fun...

[Vicserr]

Finally managed to watch it subbed.... Man, this is the F'ing Nuclear bomb of awesomeness, the sheer epic scope of this project is frightening! It will be interesting to see what Tsubasa Nishikiori and the Kurogane House gang (and what Boss has to do with them) will do in the series and her relationship with the Kabuto Elders (Juzo and Kenzo), Dr. Heinrich and his daughter Lorelei and the triumphant return of Count Blocken (what he had to do with the dissaperance of Koji's parents) and VizCount Pigman (to my knowledge they haven't appeared in an anime since the original series) without forgetting the classic Mazinger Z cast, and who can forget Zeus, the Z Mazinger!!!:bowsmiley:

[Garasharp K7]

Honestly, I'm speechless. I don't know what to say after watching that.

Well, maybe one thing - it was fantastic.

[Mazinkaizer]

Wow, this episode was crazy!

Seeing Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, Z Mazinger, AND the Mazinger Army I'm kind of hoping to see the show bring in God Mazinger at one point. Yeah, this episode didn't make all too much sense, but it sure was fun...

I wonder if Grendizer will have a chance of appearing in the series ? I mean he's part of the Mazinger saga. Unless they want to keep it for a separate project in the future like Shin Jeeg or so.

[Fencedude]

I wonder if Grendizer will have a chance of appearing in the series ? I mean he's part of the Mazinger saga. Unless they want to keep it for a separate project in the future like Shin Jeeg or so.

Well, remember, this is the "Z Chapter", which would imply the possibility of other chapters...

[evilgordo]

BIG BANG PUNCH!

This 1st episode echoes so much of the GR-finale my eyes damn near fell outta my head. Can not wait for what's next. Time to brush up on my Go Nagi lore.

[Kusaja]

I wonder if Grendizer will have a chance of appearing in the series ? I mean he's part of the Mazinger saga. Unless they want to keep it for a separate project in the future like Shin Jeeg or so.

Well, remember, this is the "Z Chapter", which would imply the possibility of other chapters...

Certainly but, since this may be relevant, in the case of Giant Robo the story was also one of a number of theoretical chapters..and nothing else was ever animated. Possibly intentionally so, I've heard. Perhaps we may have more luck this time around.

[Kiggy]

The cyborg and little girl are Dr. Heinrich and his daughter Lorelei. They both appeared in the original anime and manga. Glad to see them included!

I had forgotten about those 2, from Ep 63 I think. And something for the Chogokin Lover in All of US (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxSDht4aJZs)!!


Wasn't there in the 1972-74 TV series another girl working at the Photon Lab? She was Boss's cousin and her name was Hitomi or something.

[Rando]

Her name was Misato. I think she only appeared in the Mazinger Z anime.

[Vicserr]

Her name was Misato. I think she only appeared in the Mazinger Z anime.

Yeah, she popped on the latter part of the series, she might appear in Shin Mazinger, and maybe Rumy, the maid / sister - in one of the spanish dubs - that Baron Ashura murdered in Ep 1 of the tv series will make an appearance too.

[Arnold]

So what was the plan here, totally confuse us with the first episode so we have to watch the rest of the series to make sense of it?

[Vicserr]

No, it's to fill your eyes with so much hot-blooded awesomeness, that you'll stay and watch ;)

[Jimmie M]

No, it's to fill your eyes with so much hot-blooded awesomeness, that you'll stay and watch ;)
I could be wrong but the impression that I got from watching it was as a preview of things to come-Almost an "Episode Zero", so to speak. It got my interest though (It being a Go Nagai show was a selling point for me anyway) so I'll definitely be following this.

[Vicserr]

No, it's to fill your eyes with so much hot-blooded awesomeness, that you'll stay and watch ;)
I could be wrong but the impression that I got from watching it was as a preview of things to come-Almost an "Episode Zero", so to speak. It got my interest though (It being a Go Nagai show was a selling point for me anyway) so I'll definitely be following this.

You got it right... it's a preview of the awesomeness to come, mighty heroes, powerful super robots, dastardly villains, gods,that intervene in the affairs of mortal men with the fate of the entire world standing in the balance!!!!:blush::devil:

What else do you need from a show?:bowsmiley:

Will ppl notice that I'll be fangasming for 26 weeks and praying for more? ;)

Bask in the Power of the OP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL5lT7-AC-o)!!!!

[Vicserr]

Impressions of Episode 2 RAW (I might be way off on stuff)

*We get an op, it recycles mostly footage from Ep 1, except for Mazinger Rising from some wreckage, a couple trapped in a cocoon, Mazinger Z fighting Garada K-7 and Doublas M-2, a flash of light and Koji Piloting Hover Pilder
*A Beaten up Mazinger Z, with the God Scrander walks toward the audience, Koji is barely conscious
*Mazinger Z Falls, the Great General of Darkness is behind him.
*A shot of the Photoatomic Research Institute, at the base of Mount Fuji, it's shields are up
*In a clockwork construct we meet the Evil Dr. Hell, he calls for Baron Ashura
*A beam goes off the PRI, it lights up an entire city
*The press covers the event, Prof. Gennosuke Yumi appears on Screen, apparently Prof Yuzo Kabuto is watching it on tv
*Some poor fool is dead near the test site, Inspector Ankokuji is on the case, apparently is not the only person killed connected with the Kabutos
*Koji and Shiro are living with their Grandfather and are setting up lunch
*Some guy dressed as a Samurai is watching the Kabuto Home, the police surround him, but the samurai dispatches the police with ease
*Koji is not a good cook, as the samurai guy continues to take out the policemen
*Koji and Shiro go for a bike ride as prof. Kabuto checks his creation....
*The Samurai continues hacking the police to bits, Prof Kabuto is energizing his creation
*Sayaka Yumi watches as Koji and Shiro continue their trip
*Boss, Nuke, Mucha and their gang are on a boat trip
*Inspector Ankokuji watches Prof Kabuto... at the hot baths...
*As prof Kabuto walks home, he encounters the Samurai guy, he wastes a policeman that just joined Dr.Kabuto
*Baron Ashura prepares Garada K-7 and Doublas M-2
*Shiro gets taken off school by Nuke & Mucha
*Prof Kabuto feeds some birds,and test the house defense grid... and Inspector Ankokuji gets some defense grid laser blasted
*The Inspector ask Prof. Kabuto about the murders
*The photonic energy grid goes down, as Kikaiju approach the coast
*Prof. Kabuto goes down into the basement as Tetsukamen troops storm the house
*Boss is beating Koji as Mucha & Nuke hold Shiro hostage
*Inspector Ankokuji shoots the TetsuKamen as Prof Kabuto prepares his creation
*Koji's Hot blood level rises...to over 9000!, and beats down Boss
*The ppl hear Sayaka's voice, Boss and Koji continue to strugle as a Kikaiju appears
*Prof. Kabuto tells Koji to pick Up Hover Pilder
*Another Kikaiju appears
*Afrodite A makes her appearance and battles one of the Kikaiju
*Pilder blast off, the Tetsukamen take the chance to storm the house basement
*The house blows up
*As the Kikaiju is about to grab Koji and Shiro, its knocked down by missiles
*Pilder appears
*As the mechanical monster rises again, Koji and Shiro get into Pilder
*Prof Kabuto goes into the God/Devil Speech
*The inspector is alive
*And the Fortress of Iron... Mazinger Z rises from the wreckage of the house

*Next:Let all Kikaiju Tremble Dr.Hell.... Mazinger Z is Here!!!!!

[Gundamhead]

Episode two (although it's really episode one) RAW.

-The Op's just a crappy clip show! Lame! The song is suitably kick ass though.

-Giant Robo style opera music plays as we see a badly damaged Mazinger emerge from the darkness. The narrator says a few words as Mazinger collapses! The Great General of Darkness stands triumphantly.

-We see Mt. Fuji as the narrator tells us about Photonic Power.

-Looks like Dr. Hell moved into Drosselmyer's old place. It's pretty awesome looking, though it doesn't seem very functional. I love his theme music. He commands Ashura to do something. Evil, no doubt.

-Dr. Yumi is giving a press conference about Photonic Power. Juzo Kabuto watches on T.V. He is not happy!

-A guy in a Zenigata style coat and hat looks at a body with it's head sliced in half. He recalls similar killings and mentions "Kabuto" while looking up at their house.

-Shiro, Juzo and Koji eat breakfast (prepared by Koji). Much komedy ensues.

-A suspicious samurai is watching from the surrounding hills. Police appear and order him to surrender. The samurai attacks! The Samurai block bullets with his sword! He doesn't cut them in half though, so he isn't quite as awesome as Goemon. Koji and co. are oblivious to the slaughter.

-Shiro and Koji are riding a motorcycle. They discuss Juzo and Mazinger while jazzy music plays. Sayaka, also on a motorcyle, is watching them. Boss and his goons are also watching them...from a yacht!?

-The Detective guy from earlier is following Juzo even into the hotsprings. He won't take his hat off even in the water. Juzo is drunk and naked and the Detective is getting annoyed.

-The suspicious samurai confronts Juzo after he leaves the hotsprings. Juzo seems to recognize him. The samurai prepares to attack Juzo, but a random cop shows up and the samurai slices him instead. The detective shows up just in time to find the body after Juzo and the samurai have left.

-Baron Ashura is in a cavernous room filled with red mist and gives one of those "talking to myself" Ashura monologue/rants we know and love. He/she selects Garada and Doublas.

-Shiro is waiting for Koji to pick him up after school, but Boss's sidekicks grab him instead!

-Juzo uses some bread crumbs and an unfortunate bird to test his "Cagliostro" style laser defense system. The detective is sneaking around and takes a beam to the ass. Juzo invites him in for tea and cookies.

-The detective questions Juzo about the killings. He holds a gun to his head! Does he thinks Juzo is the murderer!?

-Juzo hands the detective some girly pictures instead of the murder pictures they were looking at. He has a hearts for eyes freak out and grabs the pictures, hastily stuffing them into his pocket. Juzo seems to regard him with a mix of contempt and boredom. Suddenly the power shuts off all over town...

-The detective is freaking out! He has no clue what could be happening. Juzo on the other hand seems to have been expecting this. He calmly activates the secret elevator to his underground lab. Iron Mask troops leap through the windows!

-Koji is getting pounded by Boss! Shiro is tied up! Boss's ugly toadies chortle at Koji as he is knocked to the ground. Boss grabs Koji by the neck and starts taunting him.

-The detective shoots down Iron Masks. Hey, Dr. Hell? Guns. You might want to look into them. Juzo runs to a control panel. Boss continues insulting Koji as the toadies laugh it up. Uh oh! Looks like Boss said The Wrong Thing! Koji is PISSED! Shiro casually escapes from his bonds with a "you're in for now!" look. Koji gets a deranged smile as he kicks boss's ass! He has Boss on the ground and is smooshing his face under his foot and laughing maniacally!

-Sayakas voice commands to stop. It doesn't work. Now Boss has Koji on the ground. They finally do stop when a Kikaiju rises from the ocean. Koji escapes with Shiro by motorcycle. He doesn't sound nearly as freaked out about the giant robot as I would have thought. Juzo contacts him by radio and sends the Pilder to him. Another robot rises in front of him and almost chops him with it's sword. Sayaka and her robot appear and take the second Kikaiju out with a flying jump kick!

-Pilder launches! Iron Maskes storm the lab! Juzo confronts them standing on Mazinger! The house expldes! A Kikaiju is almost ontop of Koji! Missiles blow it away, it's Pilder! Koji and Shiro leap into it from the motorcyle! Juzo gives the "God or Devil" speech as Mazinger bursts from the wreckage! The narrator melodramatically bellows something and the episode is over.

Yeah, that was pretty freaken awesome. I didn't really mind watching it raw actually. It's kind of fun trying to figure it out, and it's easy to follow even without subtitles. The animation is good (although not fantastic) and I really like the artwork. I'll give this ep. a B+ It's been a while since I've seen a show that had me anticipating a new episode every week.

edit:Holy crap! I didn't realize this post was so long! Sorry for going overboard there.

[evilgordo]

Just finished watching the Gattai Subs...

I'm luving this show! Definitely has Imagawa's spirit/style radiating from every direction! I certainly hope he can maintain this pacing and see this story to the end. Looking forward to some Mazinger action next episode, which is only a week away! Sure beats the months waiting for GR episodes!

[strangefour]

Man, I love Mazinger. Fun with yelling and fighting and giant robots and Boss kicking some ass and horrible jokes about old man smell. It feels like coming home to my first vague anime memories, Tranzor Z. Only more over the top.

[Fencedude]

Come on, follow the instructions in the OP post, they are really very simple and basic.

Anyway, very fun episode, all sorts of insanity going on. I've decided that I really like Kouji's new Seiyuu, and Sayaka's seems very good as well.

Next time we should get to really see Mazinger in action for the first time.

...now, how long till KABUTO KOUJI DIES IN LAVA?

[strangefour]

Come on, follow the instructions in the OP post, they are really very simple and basic.

Anyway, very fun episode, all sorts of insanity going on. I've decided that I really like Kouji's new Seiyuu, and Sayaka's seems very good as well.


Dagnabit! This odd quote system is kinda wonky. I just quoted the last post before me since I never actually notice the Re: part. My brain just kind of visually ignores it.

So yeah I was talking about fun in episode 2. Since episode 1 was basically the Opening animation only longer and crazier. I don't mind any seiyuu changes in anything Go Nagai related. Because grew up with dubbed Tranzor Z and even though I play SRW games I'm not that invested in any of them. Can Kouji scream? Yep, then he's good.

I can't wait to see this version's Garada K7 and Doublas M2 in action.

[Suwako Moriya]

In some ways the grandfather is cool and in other ways he's quite creepy. Maybe if I'm lucky I'll completely forget about the whole bath scene. I hate it when they such jokes.

The whole "I'm uber with my sword" sub plot was kind of boring and they may as well have just said "By the way, he easily cut up another round of generics" as it would have had the same effect.

All right then, I get to see what Boss is like. I've come to the following conclusion. Someone needs to shine some pure light on bloody impurity. In other words, yes, I completely hate the guy already. Then again I never cared for the "Hi, I am a gang member and I'm a complete ass" type character.

In any case, ending the episode where they did was kind of cruel. That being said, I guess it gives a reason to consider checking out episode 3. To see what an initial Mazinger Z battle is like. Although how the battle will go depends on varying factors.

[Mazinkaizer]

[Anyway, very fun episode, all sorts of insanity going on. I've decided that I really like Kouji's new Seiyuu, and Sayaka's seems very good as well.



I am a bit surprised with the some of the negative feedback regarding Kouji's new seiyuu in some other forums. I know that Hiroya Ishimaru will always be Kouji Kabuto in the hearts of many fans, but i personally believe that the show's new style would do with a new seiyuu for the character, the and the new is a very good one. A bit generic ? maybe but that's the character for Kouji ! A normal high school boy who got dragged into the Mazinger saga weather he liked it or not.

Personally i would accept this seiyuu change without much troubles as that it suits the series style. In fact i like Dr. Hell's new voice more than the original one.

It's not one of those idiotic seiyuu changes like the Shin Hokuto No Ken (2003), Saint Seiya or Zeta Gundam (Four Murasame's) ones.

[Vicserr]

In some ways the grandfather is cool and in other ways he's quite creepy. Maybe if I'm lucky I'll completely forget about the whole bath scene. I hate it when they such jokes.

Yuzo has had more exposure in this series than in the original tv series (where he lasted for about half of episode 1), and is also serving as a showcase for the perverted Go Nagai style humor. Also it seems he's not in good graces with Prof. Yumi (Prof. Yumi was Prof. Kabuto's protege in the original)

The whole "I'm uber with my sword" sub plot was kind of boring and they may as well have just said "By the way, he easily cut up another round of generics" as it would have had the same effect.

You have to be an uber badass if you are Prof. Kabuto's Bodyguard as apparently those 4 murdered guys and the policemen were Dr. Hell Agents, as Prof. Kabuto was safe at home after Inspector Ankokuji found the sliced "policeman". Dr Hell and Baron Ashura did use agents during the original series.

All right then, I get to see what Boss is like. I've come to the following conclusion. Someone needs to shine some pure light on bloody impurity. In other words, yes, I completely hate the guy already. Then again I never cared for the "Hi, I am a gang member and I'm a complete ass" type character.

We know Boss will have his change of heart, I just hope Imagawa keeps some of his edginess and doesn't turn him into the total Goofball that he became in the latter part of Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger.

In any case, ending the episode where they did was kind of cruel. That being said, I guess it gives a reason to consider checking out episode 3. To see what an initial Mazinger Z battle is like. Although how the battle will go depends on varying factors.

Ohh yeah, but that means episode 3 should be full of awesome!:cool:

[Suwako Moriya]

Ohh yeah, but that means episode 3 should be full of awesome!:cool:

Perhaps, but only time will tell if it does deliver. Still I'm going to make a prediction that the "Rocket Punch" will be the very first attack we see from Mazinger Z. Whether I'm predicting the obvious or being far fetched, I'm not sure.

[Kiggy]

Man, I love Mazinger. Fun with yelling and fighting and giant robots and Boss kicking some ass and horrible jokes about old man smell. It feels like coming home to my first vague anime memories, Tranzor Z. Only more over the top.

¡HUY-HUY-HUY!

(Those of us who watched the latinamerican dub in the 80's will know....;) )

[Vicserr]

My Impressions of Ep 3 RAW (I might be off in a lot of things)

*Mazinger rises
*Sayaka is beating one of the Kikaiju
*Koji and Shiro are Spooked by Mazinger
*Ashura is in tears at the precesence of Zeus
*In ancient times the warriors confront Zeus, he answers them defiantly
*We go to the origin of the universe and the story of Zeus
*A dark spirit confront Zeus, attacks the city and warriors drop from the heavens, Zeus attacks them
*Koji remembers what his grandpa taught him about Zeus
*Gramps tells Koji to wake up and dock with Mazinger
*After some hesitation 2 words...... PILDER ON!!!!!!!!!
*Kikaiju gets decapitated by a rocket punch
*Ankokuji is alive and impressed, Sayaka is in awe too, Prof Yumi wonders how Prof Kabuto created it.
*Gramps goes again into the God/Devil speech after Koji and Shiro check the carnage
*Baron Ashura is still in shock and his rage goes Over 9000!!!!
*And he/she is beating a super Robot?!?!?!?!
*Afrodite A tries to intervene,but gets dropped by one punch from Ashura?!?!?!?!
*Seems like Ashura has something to do with the monsters sealed by Zeus on Bardos
*As Ashura is about to beat Mazinger Again, he gets dropped, by a cloud commanded by Dr Hell, who blast Ashura for his/her impertinence in fighting Mazinger
*Dr Hell threatens Gramps, He'll have nothing of it, Dr Hell calls Ashura
*Baron Ashura orders Underwater Fortress Salude to rise, its rising floods the city as Tetsukamen troops prepare to attack and storm the city.
*Boss, Nuke & Mucha escape and it seems that Tsubasa Nishikiori won't take this affont of the Tetsukamen lying down
*As Koji and Sayaka are in awe, Baron Ashura under orders of Dr Hell activates Garada K-7 and Doublas M-2, who were hiding inside those generic Kikaiju!!!!

*Next,The real battle begins!

[Gundamhead]

Wow. It was easy to follow episode 2 even unsubbed but I have no idea what's going on here.

That narrator is getting really annoying. REALLY annoying.

Asura is weeping and screaming about Zeus!?

Was that evil black cloud in the flashback with Zeus Ankoku Dai-Shogun?

Asura has Superman like powers now!? I mean it made sense with Pigman. But Ashura?

Dr. Hell saves Koji!? The Doctor seems to powers to.

Ashura's army is huge! Though I still think it's silly, considering all of Dr. Hell's super weapons that his soldiers are just armed with swords.

Nooo! We still have to wait ANOTHER episode to see Mazinger in action?!

Not a lot seemed to happen this episode actually. It seemed to be a lot of exposition. It was still pretty fun even unsubbed though. I guess I'll give it a B- Arrg! It's been a long time since an anime has hooked me like this. I don't want to have to wait another week!

[Kusaja]

Wow. It was easy to follow episode 2 even unsubbed but I have no idea what's going on here.

Yes, there was more than enough exposition and that really does demand knowing what the hell the characters are saying.


Asura has Superman like powers now!? I mean it made sense with Pigman. But Ashura?


Haven't you seen G Gundam? Or Giant Robo even. ;)


Nooo! We still have to wait ANOTHER episode to see Mazinger in action?!


Hey, we actually did get to see it in action...briefly, but that counts.

Arrg! It's been a long time since an anime has hooked me like this. I don't want to have to wait another week!

I'd have to second that.

[Fencedude]

Ok, seriously, the narrator needs to STFU already.

Also I don't like Zeus's voice. Something strikes me as off about it.

Anyway, otherwise a very awesome episode, though the plot seems to be becoming way more complicated than is really necessary.

[Mazinkaizer]

Ok, seriously, the narrator needs to STFU already.

Also I don't like Zeus's voice. Something strikes me as off about it.

Anyway, otherwise a very awesome episode, though the plot seems to be becoming way more complicated than is really necessary.

Couldn't agree more ! If Akira Kamiya was brought back as the narrator instead of Ryoma Negre's role in (Change) Shin Getter Robo then i see no reason for Hiroya Ishimaru not being the narrator for the this show ? Or at least any other famous ones from the originals instead of Tessho Genda who is one of my favorite seiyuu but sucks as the narrator for this show. Oh well we have to live with it and hope that he won't speak much :laugh:

For Zeus, it's so so but definitely could have been a lot better. Let's hope he gets better in the upcoming eps.

It is worth mentioning that Shozo Izuka (who played Ankoku Dai Shogun in the Mazinkaizer vs Ankoku Dai Shogun OVA) is playing Uranu's role (voice speaking to Zeus). I think that's the spelling for it if i didn't misread it in the credit.

Now the OP theme is SUPER !!! while the ED is.....well too generic for my taste. But it doesn't matter much since you need 1 theme for a Super robot show when it is included in SRW later :P

A bit off-topic, i found a video concert for the original Lazy's Kanjite Night (renamed Kanjite Knight for Shin Mazinger). I thought it would be interesting to watch :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPkOpqdjMZE

[Gundamhead]

Ok, seriously, the narrator needs to STFU already.

Yes, It's getting really annoying especially since now that I've seen it subbed I see that he's not saying anything worthwhile anyway.

Anyway, the subs explained a lot. Uhh, I don't know, I don't really have much more to add except that things are getting more interesting. Ashura seems to have a different back story here so I wonder what motivation he/she has for serving Dr. Hell this time around.

[Fencedude]

then i see no reason for Hiroya Ishimaru not being the narrator for the this show ?

eargh. I don't think I could handle Ishimaru as the narrator. He has a really bad habit of getting shrill when excited, and thats one of the main reasons I wasn't too upset by Kouji being recast.

Basically, unless you get Wakamo to narrate, just don't have a narrator.

[Suwako Moriya]

Watching Baron Ashura beat up on Mazinger Z was a definite WTF moment. Mazinger Z's initial appearance would have been even better if the narrator had shut up. I'm not sure what to make of the Zeus stuff. Also, I wonder if they're going to drive the God and Devil thing into the ground.

In any case, if this tease is any indication then the next episode has definite potential. So long as we get to see Mazinger Z go all out and of course the narrator never comes up again.

[Andrew Cunningham]

Ok, seriously, the narrator needs to STFU already.

Yes, It's getting really annoying especially since now that I've seen it subbed I see that he's not saying anything worthwhile anyway.


That stuff would be seriously hard to translate and capture the correct tone.
The echoed line before Rocket Punch was fantastic in Japanese, but try as I might, I couldn't come up with a way to make it work in English.

LOVE the narrator to bits.

[Vicserr]

Watching Baron Ashura beat up on Mazinger Z was a definite WTF moment. Mazinger Z's initial appearance would have been even better if the narrator had shut up. I'm not sure what to make of the Zeus stuff. Also, I wonder if they're going to drive the God and Devil thing into the ground.

Well, The Ashura thing was surprising, but apparently He/She comes from the lineage of the gods instead of just being the sniveling cowardly freak He/She is in the original series and the narrator is a necessary evil (but I did love the presentation of the mighty Rocket Punch!) as they have to find a way to mix the Zeus stuff with the basic Mazinger mythos, taking the conflict into time immemorial, something out of Chariots of the Gods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_gods) or something like that.

And the God/Devil theme is basically the "With great power comes great responsability" mantra... It's part of the Mazinger name (Ma-God, Zin-Devil), it was a concept that was explored a few times in the original tv series.

In any case, if this tease is any indication then the next episode has definite potential. So long as we get to see Mazinger Z go all out and of course the narrator never comes up again.The epicness continues to rise...:bowsmiley::nosebleed:

[Suwako Moriya]

And the God/Devil theme is basically the "With great power comes great responsability" mantra... It's part of the Mazinger name (Ma-God, Zin-Devil), it was a concept that was explored a few times in the original tv series.

Ah, that would explain a lot. So it's a classic case of the name playing a factor in the show itself.

[Mazinkaizer]

then i see no reason for Hiroya Ishimaru not being the narrator for the this show ?

eargh. I don't think I could handle Ishimaru as the narrator. He has a really bad habit of getting shrill when excited, and thats one of the main reasons I wasn't too upset by Kouji being recast.

Basically, unless you get Wakamo to narrate, just don't have a narrator.

Hiroya was fairly good as the narrator in Grendizer & Mao Dante, but i agree that Norio Wakamoto (that's whom you're referring to...right ?) would have been the perfect choice :)

[Kusaja]

LOVE the narrator to bits.

I wouldn't go so far and can't claim to understand Japanese, but he does give an old-school feeling to the show, despite being a little intrusive. I don't really mind him that much.

As for Fencedude's statement about the plot becoming more complicated than is really necessary...that's true at a glance, but there's still plenty of time for a number of things to be explained. Yet even if not all of them are, or at least not with enough detail, I don't think the show would necessarily suffer as a result as long as the main points are still clear in the end.

In short, what's really important should indeed be explained, everything else is optional.

[Vicserr]

Impressions of Episode 4 RAW (I Might be off about a lot of stuff)

*Garada K-7 and Doublas M-2 make their apperance
*Boss, Nuke & Mucha are hiding in the forest
*Garada uses its head blades and damages Afrodite A
*Doublas stomps on Mazinger and both kikaiju prepare to strike Mazinger
*Dr. Hell shows his contempt to Yuzo
*As Doublas Heads toward the PRI, some strange robots are going underwater toward the city.... it's the Mazinger Army!!!!
*Tsubasa Nishikiori continues to observe the city
*Samurai Guy goes thru the forest
*Doublas and the Tetsukamen army are approaching the PRI
*Prof Yumi is worried as Afrodite A is out of the fight, the Lab is an open target
*Dr. Hell observes everything from hs Command Center
*Dr. Hell's Cloud dissipates and Garada K-7 prepares a Death Blow... Mazinger reacts and it's trapped by an energy snare
*Prof Kabuto and Inspector Ankokuji are in the sights of Baron Ashura and the Tetsukamen
*Why is Baron Ashura kneeling at Prof. Kabuto's feet?
*After Dr Kabuto speaks with Baron Ashura, he trigger explosives
*Mazinger continues to strugle against Garada K-7
*Ashura survives the explosion and order the Tetsukamen to Kill/Capture Dr Kabuto
*As Koji and Shiro try to figure out how to get out of this mess, they manage to launch a Rocket Punch... it doesn't work as expected
*The Mazinger Army continues to approach
*Koji finally goes into the offensive and downs Garada, against a building but Koji is shocked as blood leaks from the wrecked building
*The Mazinger Army is about to surface
*Sayaka tries to re-start Afrodite A
*Doublas and the Tetsukamen continue their march against the PRI
*The Mazinger Army surfaces, Million Alpha does field repairs to Afrodite A
*Baion Beta and Daion Gamma engage Doublas M-2
*Prof. Kabuto and Ankokuji appear out of a secret tunnel, they see the city on fire, the Prof. is worried about why hasn't Koji beaten the Kikaiju
*Shiro wonders why hasn't Koji taken the offensive, he sees the blood and freaks out
*Prof. Kabuto is Injured and the TetsuKamen are after him and Ankokuji
*Boss and his cronies are hiding at the mountaintop shrine, Samurai Guy is there too
*Prof Kabuto was hiding a command center in the shrine?!, and the TetsuKamen are surrounding the place
*Baron Ashura is not giving Yuzo Kabuto another chance as the Prof.is doing some Off the cuff programming
*Koji tries to go to the offensive, and sees that the Rocket Punch is no longer stuck in the building
*As Ashura is about to attack, he is sliced by Samurai guy, and the Missing Rocket Punch picks up Prof Kabuto and Inspector Ankokuji
*The Rocket Punch goes thru Garada K-7 and Prof Kabuto JUMPS into Pilder

*Next: Mazinger Training School?!

[Gundamhead]

Hey, Hell finally figured out his minions might be more effective with guns.

Just how many blows from those blades can Mazinger take!?

Those two guys in the flying robots sure are useless.

Man, Ashura's pretty tough to (presumably) survive getting sliced in half like that!

Holy cow! Juzo's crazy! (as if we didn't already know)

I enjoyed this episode but they seem to be dragging things out more than I'd like. I hope they pick up the pace soon. On the plus side I like that they're exploring the consequences of giant robot fights in populated areas. Really drives home the "God or Devil" thing.

[Fencedude]

Ok, this battle is taking for goddamn ever. Everyone in this show talks too much.

[Suwako Moriya]

Ok, this battle is taking for goddamn ever. Everyone in this show talks too much.

I still need to get around to the episode myself, but reading this kind of worries me a bit for some reason or another.

It's possible that this current battle is the exception and other battles will end up being on the shorter side. However I do have to wonder if they might be going for a strategy of having fewer battles, but making them longer than usual.

[Vicserr]

Ok, this battle is taking for goddamn ever. Everyone in this show talks too much.

I still need to get around to the episode myself, but reading this kind of worries me a bit for some reason or another.

It's possible that this current battle is the exception and other battles will end up being on the shorter side. However I do have to wonder if they might be going for a strategy of having fewer battles, but making them longer than usual.

I know the build up is going a little slowly, but if we want a Massive Payoff at the end we have to let Imagawa work his magic, We have to get Koji motivated and with Yuzo taking control next episode to teach him a lesson or two and probably dying it will give Koji the determination and the drive to walk the path beyond humanity and to stand besides the Gods and the Devils as humanity's ultimate defender.

[Suwako Moriya]

I know the build up is going a little slowly, but if we want a Massive Payoff at the end we have to let Imagawa work his magic,

Well, I am familiar with some series taking a few episodes to get going, but then having a strong finish. So long as I'm still feeling motivated to watch more, I'll eventually see if that's the case here.

That being said I finished the episode. All things considered it was a decent episode. Still one part that stood out was the whole "Yes, people can die these battles" scene.

[Fencedude]

I know the build up is going a little slowly, but if we want a Massive Payoff at the end we have to let Imagawa work his magic, We have to get Koji motivated and with Yuzo taking control next episode to teach him a lesson or two and probably dying it will give Koji the determination and the drive to walk the path beyond humanity and to stand besides the Gods and the Devils as humanity's ultimate defender.

I'm willing to give Imagawa quite a bit of slack, but he's bordering on being too cute for his own good.

Also the first episode really didn't help with the whole pacing issue.

[Mazinkaizer]

This was an ok Eps, not at the same level of the previous 2 (Eps 1 doesn't really count) but i was hoping for the 1st battle to end soon and start the events. Oh well, no need to rush things so let's wait and see.

A bit off-topic, but i am suprised that there is no word yet for the DVD/BD release. Unless they're planning Sets release like Casshern Sins, which is what i hope for.

[Gundamhead]

Didn't Asura get sliced in half last episode? But now he/she/they is completely fine? How tough is that weirdo anyway?

We finally got Doublas and Garada out of the way.

Is that...a ghost?!

Koji's gone beeezerk!

Again, those three flying robots sure are useless.

The count makes his appearance. I thought we weren't going to see him until much later.

Well, that was a confusing ending.

Again, this episode was good, but this show still seems to be to slow in my opinion. I understand that they're still setting things up but I want to see more robot slagging and hot blooded battle screams. This is a super robot anime after all. Oh well, I'm going to keep watching anyway. I'm sure we'll be getting that sort of thing and then some later on.

[Vicserr]

*Yuzo and Ankokuji board Pilder
*Yuzo prepares the Rust Hurricane
*The Rocket Punch returns and Garada K-7 "Pukes" its guts
*Baron Ashura battles the Samurai, seems he can survive being slashed in half
*Rust Hurricane is unleashed on Garada K-7, Sayaka and the Mazinger Army are impressed as Koji hits the damaged Kikaiju and destroys it
*Tsubasa Nishikiori seems impressed as Baron Ashura sees Garada's particles flowing in the wind and blasts aside the Samurai, who is surrounded by the TetsuKamen, another guy throws a smoke bomb and escapes with the Samurai, Boss and his cronies escape with them
*Baron Ashura power up Doublas M-2, who strikes against Baion Beta and Daion Gamma
*Million Alpha gets involved, but Doublas M-2 quickly takes her down
*Someone should work on those Oppai cockpits...
*Baron Ashura orders Doublas to engage Mazinger Z
*Doublas M-2 gets a demonstration of Mazin Power
*Doublas hits Mazinger Z with his beams, Mazinger Stands there as is a gentle breeze was hitting it
*Sayaka and Prof. Yumi think that Mazinger was created with Super Alloy Z
*The narrator is freaking out about Super Alloy Z
*As Yuzo's injuries are getting worse, he continues to push Koji
*As Mazinger Z shakes off the attack his breast plates start to glow with power.. the Power of....
*Breast Fire!!!!!!! and Doublas gets an SPF 1,000.000.000 burn
*As Yuzo is finally brought down by his injuries, his spirit is super pumped by the power of the awesome super robot Mazinger Z, as he sees his grandsons crying over his body
*Baron Ashura is shocked that his powerful kikaiju have been destroyed, and orders his forces to retreat
*Ashura's Army get to taste the full fury of Mazinger Z
*The Mazinger Army interferes to stop Koji from crushing Ashura, He/She escapes
*Koji's fury unleashes Breast Fire upon the Mazinger Army, Sayaka interposes Afrodite A between them and Mazinger Z and tries to reason with Koji, and Ankokuji and his gun aren't far behind
*Prof.Yumi talks to Koji, but then Air Fortress Ghoul appears and attacks the AWACS plane
*As the plane crashlands everybody on the ground is shocked by the Air Fortress appearance
*The master of Ghoul appears... Count Blocken!!!! and he drops Groizer X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GEl4GKOXgg)-10 into the battlefield!?!?!?!
*The Mazinger Army tries to stop Groizer X-10
*Koji tries to figure out how to stop the new Kikaiju
*Tsubasa Nishikiori appears and tells him to use Mazinger's Photon Beams
*a big explosion happens over the city
*Tsubasa Nishikiori is visited by Sayaka and Prof Yumi
*Koji appears to have passed the night in a cell...

Now that we got the first battle out of the way, let the all out war begin!!!!

[strangefour]

Ok, this battle is taking for goddamn ever. Everyone in this show talks too much.

I still need to get around to the episode myself, but reading this kind of worries me a bit for some reason or another.

It's possible that this current battle is the exception and other battles will end up being on the shorter side. However I do have to wonder if they might be going for a strategy of having fewer battles, but making them longer than usual.

Man, I love Mazinger but this is progressing too slow for my tastes. Four episodes and Garada & Doublas aren't even dead yet. *sigh* I do adore those two evil robots but come on. Stop narrating and blow shit up!

That said when action does happen it's great. Like Baron Ashura beating down Mazinger with his bare feet, flipping fantastic! Just wish the pacing was more like the recent Jeeg.

*sits and waits for the screaming of "Breast Fire"*

[Suwako Moriya]

It's nice to know the narrator is there to explain each weapon to us. I wonder if he'll be able explain the use of say a fork.:P In any case, I'm suddenly reminded of that "The end of one battle is the start of another quote" from a certain game I've played.:sweat:

[Fencedude]

Ok, WTF is with the random changes in video quality during the episode? Its bizarre, never seen anything like it.

Anyway, THIS BATTLE WILL NEVER FUCKING END JESUS CHRIST

But at least Juuzou's finally dead.

[Kusaja]

Ok, WTF is with the random changes in video quality during the episode? Its bizarre, never seen anything like it.


The alternative would be to wait for the DVDs or miss out on that content, so...I'm absolutely fine with that.


Anyway, THIS BATTLE WILL NEVER FUCKING END JESUS CHRIST

But at least Juuzou's finally dead.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

All kidding aside, it was running a little long but I though the episodes were entertaining enough to make up for it.

I expected him to, certainly, but he was a pretty cool character while he lasted.

[Suwako Moriya]

Anyway, THIS BATTLE WILL NEVER FUCKING END JESUS CHRIST.

Well, you have to give them credit for trying to achieve a record. :P In all seriousness, I'm starting to wonder if I should put this series on hold for a bit. After all, if they're going to have a single battle last for several episodes... Then maybe I should wait until I can watch multiple episodes in a row.

[Fencedude]

The alternative would be to wait for the DVDs or miss out on that content, so...I'm absolutely fine with that.



...what?

[Suwako Moriya]

Ok, WTF is with the random changes in video quality during the episode? Its bizarre, never seen anything like it.

It's probably a result of the fact some of scenes come from the Bandai Channel Stream of the series. Which includes extra footage. It's mentioned in the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Mazinger_Shougeki!_Z_Hen) for the series. I'll bold the important part below..

The version available here, as with other anime, includes extended scenes not seen in the TV broadcast.

That should help explain things, hopefully.

[Gundamhead]

Anyway, THIS BATTLE WILL NEVER FUCKING END JESUS CHRIST.

Well, you have to give them credit for trying to achieve a record. :P In all seriousness, I'm starting to wonder if I should put this series on hold for a bit. After all, if they're going to have a single battle last for several episodes... Then maybe I should wait until I can watch multiple episodes in a row.

I'm hoping this first fight is an aberration since Koji didn't know how to operate Mazinger yet. I think later fights will go much more swiftly. This show is only 26 episodes after all!

[Kusaja]

...what?

Exactly what Shikieiki Yamaxanadu said.

The scenes with lower quality are exclusive to the Bandai Channel stream and not part of the TV broadcast.

Though frankly, rather than merely being "extra" footage, sometimes it looks like they animated the entire episode first and then had to choose which parts could be cut out, which is why it's been largely assumed that they'll be on the DVDs.

[Vicserr]

Impressions of Ep 6 RAW (I might be off on some stuff)

*Air Fortress Ghoul arrives at Bardos island
*Count Blocken has an audience with Dr.Hell
*The town is a mess after the events of last night
*Shiro remembers his last moments with his grandpa
*Shiro hasn't eaten and asks the Policewoman about Koji
*Koji is "enjoying" the police's hospitality
*Ankokuji remember the events of last night
*Prof. Yumi pays his last respects to Prof.Kabuto
*Repairs are being doneto Aphodite A and the Robot Army
*Sayaka thanks the Robot Army Pilots and thinks about Mazinger Z
Dr.Hell is also thinking about the awesome Super Robot and its weapons
*The Robot Army does a flyby over the city
*Koji and Ankokuji talk in jail, they remember what happened last night
*Count Blocken drops Groizer X-10 over the city
*The Robot army tries to stop it and can't
*Koji remembers that she saw a woman (Tsubasa Nishikiori) ans she telling him to use his photon beams
*Prof Yumi and Sayaka head toward the city and talk about the use of the Photon Beams
*Prof Yumi remebers Prof Kabuto and his research into photon power and Japanium, the source of Super Alloy Z
*Dr Hell and Count Blocken continue to see the events as Groizer X-10 continues to drop over the city and blasts away the Robot Army
*Shiro finds the Photon Beam button, Koji tests it by basically blasting Underwater Fortress Salude's Island top to pieces
*Groizer X-10 bombs the city
*As Koji powers up the Photon Beams, Mrs. Nishikiori prepares her pipe as bombs explode all around them
*Koji fires, Groizer is hit and destroyed
*We check out Prof. Yumi's meeting with Mrs Nishikiori, and she tells her knowledge about the Photon Beams came from Dr. Kabuto himself...in one of his drunken diatribes
*The Police bust into Mrs Nishikiori spa, looking for pilder, it seems it disapperad last night
*Ankokuji treatens Koji because he thinks the kid is hiding Pilder
*Mrs. Nishikiori puts her gang together
*Dr. Hell know Mrs.Nishikiori knows more than she lets out.

A good episode, I guess we'll have "The search of Pilder" next episode"

[Suwako Moriya]

The highlight of the episode had to be Dr. Hell's reaction when he realized who the "woman" aka Nishikiori actually was.

[Gundamhead]

Alright! It looks like the plot is starting to move now. I was getting fed up with the last few episodes which seemed to be stretching thing out interminably, but this one has got me interested again. We've got the set up done with now, so I think this show may finally be starting to hit it's stride (I hope).

[Mazinkaizer]

Yup this Eps have finally got the main plot moving. I just hope that they don't waste too much time with streching small events like the last few eps and squeez the main/important ones in the last eps or so. But then again, perhaps they have a plan B in mind: Season 2 ??

Either ways, I hope that they cover events in the next 20 eps with the right pace & quality. Oh well, let's wait and see.

[Fencedude]

Egads there is so much talking in this show. But at least things are finally getting a move on.

Also holy crap they powered up the Koshuryoku Beam. Can't wait to see it at the BOTTOM of Mazinger's move list in SRW!

[Vicserr]

Impressions of Ep 7 RAW (Imight be off in some things)

*Prof Yumi and Sayaka watch as the city light up, and the intense security operation
*Ankokuji still holds Koji in jail,Koji has no idea where Pilder went and is worried about Shiro, who is sleeping at the Atami Police HQ
*Shiro wakes up and ask where is Koji...but find the police officers... DEAD, he listen to voices approaching, but he's too far up to go out a window
*Boss, Nuke and Mucha loiter around, planning something, but another guy with a mexican sombrero and a gun doesn't agree(probably another of the Kurogane gang crew)
*Ankokuji orders the police out of the building and shoots the phone, Shiro is freaking out under a desk
*the call was from the Photon Power Lab
*The police continue to search the Kurogane compound, the old lady tries to stop a policeman from entering a small warehouse
*Aphodite A deploys toward Atami
*Shiro tries to liberate Koji but Ankokuji makes a grab for Shiro
*If Ankokuji was sleeping at Kurogane House, who's the guy at the police station?
*It's Baron Ashura, master of disguise, and those policemen are TetsuKamen!!!!
*In the way to protect Mazinger Z Aphodite A is intercepted by a Kikaiju
*Baron Ashura corners Shiro on the Station's roof and asks him about where's Pilder
*Tsubasa Nishikiori pops up, this woman is everywhere, and gives Baron Ashura a shock!
*Cross and Jazu spring Koji from Jail, are surrounded by the TetsuKamen... Sensei and Jazu deal with them
*Koji grabs a sword and wants to deal with Baron Ashura to avenge his Grandpa
*Ankokuji deals with the Tetsukamen at Kurogane House
*Shiro wonders how she is dealing with Baron Ashura, who by Him/Herself dropped Mazinger Z
*Dr. Hell speaks to Count Blocken about his encounter with *Dr.Kabuto(acompanied by Miss Nishikiori) and the story of Bardos Island, the excavation of the ruins and when they discovered the Gate of Zeus and the secrets inside
*Koji breaks Ms Nishikiori hold on Baron Ashura as a Kikauju flies toward them

[Suwako Moriya]

There's nothing like revealing it was an impostor to put things in proper perspective. That woman is surprisingly awesome. As for Koji, the guy really needs to get his act together. Right now he's more trouble than he's worth.

[Fencedude]

I like Tsubasa. Mostly because she knows when its time to stop talking and actually DO something.

[Suwako Moriya]

I like Tsubasa. Mostly because she knows when its time to stop talking and actually DO something.

Seriously, they should just make her the main character.

[Mazinkaizer]

The eps was ok, but i was expecting more. I am a bit worried about the pace of the events ! I mean from Eps 1 there seems to be a lot of events that none or very little was covered from them so far. Meaning that most of them might just get squeezed into the last eps or so :sd:

[Gundamhead]

I really liked this episode even if there wasn't much action. Adding Tsubasa and co to the Mazinger story seems to be a great idea (so far...)

However as others have said, this show is still to damn wordy. I mean, all the voice actors in this are pretty good so it's not as obnoxious as it could be. But still, pick it up already! Maybe 26 episodes was to many?

[Vicserr]

Episode 8 RAW impressions, I might be off in some stuff

*The kikauju helps Baron Ashura Escape, it shows them the captured Aphodite A
*Cross tries to stop Baron Ashura from escaping, but He/She escapes
*Jazu sends a signal
*The Pilder was hiding at the Kurogane spa
*Pilder blasts off, taking Ankokuji with it
*The Kikaiju is about to capture Mazinger Z
*Boss and his goos are discovered by the Tetsukamen, but the Bandido takes them out
*They set up a anti armor nest in Mazinger's head?!
*Pilder arrives at the police station rooftop
*Ms Nishikiori explains how she took Pilder and hid it
*The Bandido shoots a freeze shell at the kikaiju and freezes it
*Dr.Hell continues the tale of the Bardos Island exploration with Dr.Kabuto
*Baron Ashura escapes on a cable car
*They find the cocoon with the bodies of what would become Baron Ashura
*Dr.Hell Explains the experiment that would bring the 2 viable body halves back to life
*Ms Nishiokori doesn't like it one bit but she does the operation
*It's alive, Baron Ashura has arisen!
*Ms Nishikiori and Koji Find Baron Ashura
*A shadowy figure with a lance and animal powers appears and flies away
*Ms Nishikiori doesn't like Koji's indecision and fires a missile at the cable car
*The shadowy figure stops the missile, it's VizCount Pygman!!!!
*the missile detonates, Pygman and Asura land on the kikaiju, Pygman proceeds to melt the ice of the mechanical monster
*The Bandido, Boss, Nuke & Mucha decide to leave Mazinger's head
*The Kikaiju activates it's magnetic field to capture Mazinger
*Sayaka wakes ups and detonates one of Aphodite A's arms to break the field
*PILDER ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Baron Ashura escapes as Mazinger battles the Kikaiju
*As the sun rises over Atami, Prof Yumi, Koji and the Kurogame gang prepare to face Dr. Hell with the Power of Mazinger Z

[Vicserr]

Impression of Ep 9 RAW (I might be off in some stuff)

*The Pool Scene, Nuff said!!!!!
*Mazinger quickly dispatches Baron Ahsura's Kikaiju (one is reversioned from the original series)
*The Robot army and Aphodite A stops Koji from ging after Ashura and Salude, Koji is no team player
*Mrs Nishikiori gets a call as Pilder returns to the Kurogane Inn
*Insp Ankokuji and Shiro are enjoying the facilities
*Ankokuji gives us a rundown of the Kurogane gang members Cross and Master
*Yazu gives the Inspector and Shiro the spa treatment...his way and tells them about the Bandido
*Koji wants to go to Bardos to face the Enemy, mrs Nishikiori wants him to train more and brings in the head waitress?....
*Baron Ashura is getting punished for not dealing with Mazinger Z, Count Blocken and VizCount Pygman stand as witnesses
*Dr.Hell orders Blocken to start the next operation, Baron Ashura disobeys and departs with Salude
*Koji's training is not going well
*Mrs Nishikiori speaks with the PPL profs (Nosori,MoriMori and Sewashi)
*Baron Ashura has 4 Kikaiju at his/her disposal (all from the original series)
*Bandido is about to get another lousy lot of passengers... the Siniter Sisters Gamia Q-3
*Yazu calls Mrs Nishikiori, Kikaiju have landed on Tokyo, Osaka and Nagoya
*Koji wants to fight but Mrs Nishikiori doesn't let him, his training isn't over yet.

Next: All Out War!!!... If Koji can get into Pilder:devil:

[Suwako Moriya]

I think the most interesting part of the episode was the talk about how Kouji needs to learn how to fight without relying just on his weapons. In any case, it seems that looking insane is almost a requirement in this show. Oh, and I'm not sure what to think of the triplets.

[Vicserr]

I think the most interesting part of the episode was the talk about how Kouji needs to learn how to fight without relying just on his weapons. In any case, it seems that looking insane is almost a requirement in this show.

In an adaptation of a Go Nagai Show, insanity is a requirement, :cool:

Oh, and I'm not sure what to think of the triplets.

You'll see The Gamia triplets (Gamia Q 3), also known as the daughters of Ashura are assassin droids programmed to kill Koji Kauto that appeared in the original series, they also make an appearance on Ep 3 of MazinKaiser, that came out in a double pack with Shuten Doji

[Garasharp K7]

Oh, and I'm not sure what to think of the triplets.

I can think of a number of things, though for decency's sake I'll not repeat them here. There's a particular scene with them in episode 10 that I liked. (there's a brief clip at this ep's end) Make of that what you will. :)
I have to say I didn't care for Tsubasa and her gang early on, but they've really grown on me now. Django certainly has an interesting method in dealing with unwanted guests. Lesson learned: If he offers you a lift, politely decline and move on....

I think the show works well for a marathon viewing, but when you're watching one ep a week the pace does seem a bit on the slow side. 'Twas nice seeing more monsters turn up here as well. (and a few favourites at that) As enjoyable as it is, the show's been lacking in monster action compared to previous iterations. Still, what's there is great.

[Vicserr]

*The Gamia survive the attack by Django
*As the kikaiju attack the cities of Japan, the Robot Army engages them without much success
*Sayaka is about to sortie, and wonder where's Koji
*Mrs Nishiokiori is still holding Koji to the challege
*Inspector Ankokuji is stuck by love for the Gamia "triplets"
*Cross finds the wreckage of Dyango's minibus
*Seems like the Ladies don't like Master Cooking
*Jazu, Shiro and AnkoKuji almost become sacrifices for their peeping ways as they were lookig at the Gamia Androids in the onsen
*The Gamia Androids finally find Koji
*Sayaka confronts one of the Kikaiju unsuccessfully, at least we get boob missiles
*As the Gamia attack Koji, Cross and Master fught them
*Cross' body and Master's Sword are SUPER ALLOY Z!!! and they dispatch the 1st 2 Gamia Androids
*The Head Waitress stops Gamia Q 3 and she uses SUPER ALLOY Z Razor wire....
*Yazu shows us his SUPER ALLOY Z secret
*As Nishiokiori speaks with Koji in the Pilder hangar, another Gamia, Q 4 appears
*As Ashura unleases her to take his/her Vengeance against Nishikiori, Django saves the day with SUPER ALLOY Z bullets and Nishikiori stops him from taking Koji out after taking Pilder I think there's enough stuff and with Nishikiori's knowledge to create the Ankokuji Gamia
*Baron Ashura is about to spring his/her next trap as the Robot army and Aphodite A has been overwelmed by the Kikaiju.

Next Kikaiju War!!!!!

[Fencedude]

Oh, and I'm not sure what to think of the triplets.

You'll see The Gamia triplets (Gamia Q 3), also known as the daughters of Ashura are assassin droids programmed to kill Koji Kauto that appeared in the original series, they also make an appearance on Ep 3 of MazinKaiser, that came out in a double pack with Shuten Doji

You know, you really need to work on not answering rhetorical questions with spoilers.

Also, way too much naked Shiro and Ankokuji, how about some Sayaka and the Twins? Is that too much to ask?

Though we got a bit of one of the triplets at least.

[Fencedude]

Those are some dangerous twintails. Also they were highly inconsistent about the doll joints.

And next time...Scrander! I'm just shocked.

[Vicserr]

Impressions of Ep 11 RAW, I might be off about stuff

*The PPL prepares Mazinger for deployment
*The Trap by Baron Ashura is sprung by Belgas V-5 (from Ep 25, in the original series it's Gold and red) who steals Mazinger Z
*What the hell is Boss, Nuke and Mucha doing in Pilder?
*Koji manages to fool the Kikaiju and manages to dock with Mazinger Z
*Baron Ashura orders Salude to dive and the Belgas V-5 to fight Mazinger
*Mazinger is not prepared to fight underwater (something that popped up in the original series) to buy himself more time, he uses Rust Hurricane to cloud the water
*the OP is playing, you're Pwed Belgas V-5
*Baron Ashura throws Salude against Mazinger and he gives it a tastes of Mazin Power
*Baron Ashura orders Glossam X-2 to attack (Ep 16, in the original series it was salmom red and without wings)
*As the explosion of the beam barrage between Mazinger Z and Glossam pierces the water, Ghostfire (Grengus C-3 from Ep 29 and Toros D-7 who looks a bit like Danchel from ep 6 and appears in Mazinkaiser wait on the beach
*The kurogane Gang, Ankokuji and Shiro visit the PPL with the body of a Gamia android and speak with Prof Yumi
*Profs Nosori, Mori Mori and Sewashi check by hologram the Gamia android, meet Shiro...and scold the Robot army for totally sucking!
*Look..it Jet Scrander!!!!!
*Mazinger rises from the sea, Boss and his cronies are out like a light and is attacked by Toros D-7 and Ghostfire, they're no match for Koji
*Kingdam X-10 (from Ep 5) prepares to engage Koji but it has captured Sayaka

Next: will Koji be able to destroy Kingdam X-10 and save Sayaka?

This episode was just plain awesome and with the energy of the original Mazinger Z series

[Gundamhead]

This episode was just plain awesome and with the energy of the original Mazinger Z series

This. I was a little worried for the first few episodes which were entertaining but a little underwhelming. But these last few eps. have been fantastic and it looks like this show has FINALLY started kicking ass like I knew it could.

I wish Sayaka would get to kill a Kikaiju once in a while though...

[Garasharp K7]

This episode was just plain awesome and with the energy of the original Mazinger Z series

Oh, very much so. It was great seeing one monster after another show up, only to get their metallic arses handed to 'em in the Mazinger style. :)

I wish Sayaka would get to kill a Kikaiju once in a while though...

Has she ever though? I can't remember her lasting more than a few minutes against those monsters in the old series, let alone actually killing one. She might've stomped on a few Iron Masks though. Even so, she fared better than Boss ever did.

[Vicserr]

I wish Sayaka would get to kill a Kikaiju once in a while though...

Has she ever though? I can't remember her lasting more than a few minutes against those monsters in the old series, let alone actually killing one. She might've stomped on a few Iron Masks though. Even so, she fared better than Boss ever did.

Well, Sayaka managed to destroy a kikaiju or two in the original series, the most famous Sayaka kill was Minerva X in ep. 38.

[Vicserr]

Impressions of Episode 12 RAW

*Koji has surrendered to Baron Ashura, He/She is foaming at the mouth for his/her victory.
*The news arrive at the PPL, nobody is thrilled about it.
*Mrs Nishiokiori seems to have an ace up hes sleeves.
*Boss, Nuke and Mucha are still hiding inside Pilder.
*Baron Ashura returns from putting Koji in jail and admires Pilder and how he'll give Mazinger as a gift to Dr. Hell.
*Ashura tries to dock Pilder to Mazinger... and fails.
*Boss and his cronies get out of Pilder and go into action.
*As Koji ponders how he has treated Sayaka, he get out of jail thanks to Boss, who is disguised as a TetsuKamen and takes the chance to berate Koji.
*Noooooo, not this again!!!!! (those who have seen MazinKaiser, know what I mean) at least it's heavyly fogged.
*As Boss and Koji go to rescue Sayaka, Air Fortress Gore decides to pay a visit, mining/bombing the area where Salude is going, apparently Blocken wants to be the one to give Mazinger Z to Dr. Hell.
*Koji, Boss, Nuke and Mucha rescue the poor, naked Sayaka.
*Baron Ashura decides to strike back at Count Blocken.
*Blocken hits back with a trio of Groiser-Xs.
*Salude is stuck at the bottom of the sea.
*Koji and the gang get to the Hangar but are stopped by ANOTHER Gamia Android (Q-5) Koji decides to face it. and thanks to Sayaka he manages to take it out.
*Mazinger Z powers up and perpetreates Kikaiju abuse on Kingdam X-10.
*Baron Ashura abandons Salude, the underwater fortress is programmed to self destruct.
*Mazinger Z escapes but its stuck on the soft silt at the bottom of the sea.
*At the time where hope is almost lost.... the Robot Army brings in the Jet Scrander, all manage to escape the detonation of Salude.
*At the party at the Kurogane inn, Koji makes up with the pilots of the Robot Army.
*Nuke & Mucha tend to a beaten up Boss.
*Mrs Nishiokiori is working on the remnants of a Gamia android.

I loved this episode full of action, hotbloodedness and Jet Scrander.

[Fencedude]

Action packed!

But Kouji, do try to stay out of the water, Mazinger has only a C rank there, you should know that.

And it looks like next time has gratuitous Sayaka nudity. Which is fantastic <3

[Garasharp K7]

*Noooooo, not this again!!!!! (those who have seen MazinKaiser, know what I mean) at least it's heavyly fogged.

All I can say is thank God for the steam censor. :) There's no way anyone would want that scene cleared up for the dvd. And who'da thunk Boss and his gang could be competent fighters? (well, sort of...) They managed to hold their on pretty well there until Q5 showed up.
Fantastic stuff with the Scrander at the end too. The show had a bit of a shaky start, but it's been getting better over the last few eps. It's starting to feel like the old show now.

[Mazinkaizer]

I was kinda busy for the last 2 weeks so i didn't get the chance to watch 10 & 11. I finished watching them yesterday and man i am glad that the show has finally started kicking out and becoming more and more like the Go Nagai Super robot shows that i liked before (and still like).

[Fencedude]

In this episode, Kouji learns the importance of teamwork!

And Sayaka is naked for no particular reason. As is the Fifth Gamia, oddly enough.

[Vicserr]

Impressions of Ep 13 RAW (I might be off in some stuff)

*Shiro stands in a meadow as Mazinger Z faces Rhine X-1 (from Ep 61 in a different color scheme), then we cut to a cute girl named Lorelei at the entrance of the Kurogane Inn
*Abkokuji and Shiro raid the Pilder Hangar's armory, Yazu caught them red handed
*As they all chop wood Yazu tells them about what they're doing with the Gamia android remnants
*As Shiro leaves Ankokuji and Jazu, she finds a cute girl at the entrace (love at first sight I guess)
*Shiro and Lorelei shara a tour of Atami, she wonders about the wrecked part of town and Shiro tells her about Mazinger Z
*under the sunset Lorelei meets the Castle of Iron
*Boss and the gand come to harrass Shiro, but Koji and Mazinger Z come to the rescue
*As Koji meets Lorelei, she tells them her father makes Giant Robots
*Ankokuji and the Kurogane gang shre liquor, the inspector is in the need of android love or something?
*Lorelei is enjoying the onsen, Shiro doesn't let Ankokuji in
*Koji and Shiro talk about Prof.Heimlick, he isn't a nice person
*Shiro decides to run away with Lorelei, Koji goes afer them with Mazinger... and Scrander
*What is it with ppl joining Koji in a mission, this time it's the Inspector
*Air Fortress Gore intercepts Mazinger
*barely an episode and Scrander is scrapped?!
*Koji and Ankokuji are surrounded by a Kikaiju and a lot of Marionette Ninja assasins
*Koji and the Inspector are ready to fight them off but the inspector is captured
*and Cross comes to help too
*Lorelei and Shiro Arrive at the Creepy manor of Prof. Heimlick
*Mrs Nishiokiori is there in a rather sexy dress
*Count Blocken and Baron Ashura discuss something

It was a fun episode although the actionmeter was way down compares to the previous episodes.

[Kiggy]

I like Tsubasa. Mostly because she knows when its time to stop talking and actually DO something.

Seriously, they should just make her the main character.


Plus, she's smoking hot :beatingheart::nosebleed::beatingheart:

She sure makes my Mazin Go! :devil::sdsmiley:

[Kiggy]

You'll see The Gamia triplets (Gamia Q 3), also known as the daughters of Ashura are assassin droids programmed to kill Koji Kauto that appeared in the original series, they also make an appearance on Ep 3 of MazinKaiser, that came out in a double pack with Shuten Doji

You mean the original manga. I don't remember seeing the triplets in the 1972 anime.

[vanfanel]

*Noooooo, not this again!!!!! (those who have seen MazinKaiser, know what I mean) at least it's heavyly fogged.

:) There's no way anyone would want that scene cleared up for the dvd.

The nonsense going on in the recommendations forum makes me wonder, unfortunately...

It's nice to hear that this show is turning out pretty well, though. I've only caught parts here and there, but the robots look nostalgic, and everyone looks sufficiently crazed to bring a smile to my face. I remember watching Tranzor Z as a kid and not really liking it. It seemed *too* weird, and I was always in suspense that my Mom would choose just the wrong moment to walk into the room (they didn't edit *every* Aphrodite A moment back then). Only later did I realize...the problem was that I simply had no frame of reference at the time to understand just *how* weird that show was!

Nice to see it getting the Imagawa treatment now!

[Vicserr]

We see how Tsubasa is connected to the Kabuto family She was Kenzo's wife and Koji and Shiro's mother and to Heimrich, how she's offering Shiro to Heimrich for experimentation. We see Baron Ashura trying to get his hands on Danube Alpha 1 (Rhine X-1) and how Heimrich returned from the dead, Koji and Cross speaking under the scary German night and Ankokuji's scary infatuation with Gamia,

Next: the return of Kenzo Kabuto!!!!

[Fencedude]

Lorelei is cute.

And uhh...yeah. Thats it. She's very cute. <3

[Fencedude]

I just realized that the first episode and OP have Ankokuji with a Gamia.

Anyway, ZOMG BACKSTORY.

[Gundamhead]

Poor Baron Ashura. Looks like you fail again. I'm liking this show more and more.
it just keeps getting better. Not much more to say I guess. It's just good stuff.

Kenzo's entrance was surprisingly sinister.

[Vicserr]

Count Blocken lets Baron Ashura borrow the kikaiju River F-9 (Ep 61) to retrieve Danube Alpha 1(Rhine X-1), Apparently a program left by Kenzo Kabuto takes over the castle defenses, Stroheim and Tsubasa manage to fend them off, Stroheim wants to use Shiro to finish his preparations for Danube Alpha 1 but Baron Ashura intervenes and takes Danube, just as Koji finishes repairing Pilder, Cross escapes with Tsubasa and the kids as Gamia helps Ankokuji escape from the collapsing castle, Stroheim pleads to Ashura to let him finish Danube, Ashura says no and with a shield takes out Stroheim, as he lays dying, he reveals to Lorelei the truth and how they wanted to use Shiro as a final trigger, Lorelei accepts her father's legacy even as Shiro pleads with her not to do it, She merges with Danube Alpha 1 and destroys River F-9 (in Episode 61, he also was a pushover) and then faces Mazinger Z in a tragic battle for Shiro.

Next: the Coming of Kedora

PS: you can compare it with pictures of the original episode here (http://www.mundomazinger.com/index.php?id=01_61_01)

[VinceA]

In the new opening that starts with Episode 16, do I see Grendizer and/or Duke Fleed?

[Vicserr]

In the new opening that starts with Episode 16, do I see Grendizer and/or Duke Fleed?

No, We see Energer Z (and in other scene it's pilot with the Kurogane Gang) fighting Mazinger Z and the guy you mentioned was Blade AKA Tetsuya Tsurugi and with him... Great Mazinger shooting Thunder Break!

[Fencedude]

In the new opening that starts with Episode 16, do I see Grendizer and/or Duke Fleed?

No, We see Energer Z (and in other scene it's pilot with the Kurogane Gang) fighting Mazinger Z and the guy you mentioned was Blade AKA Tetsuya Tsurugi and with him... Great Mazinger shooting Thunder Break!

I do not like this redesigned GUREITO at all.

Also WTF transforming Mazinger?

But, FUCK YEAH JAM PROJECT

[Mazinkaizer]

In the new opening that starts with Episode 16, do I see Grendizer and/or Duke Fleed?

No, We see Energer Z (and in other scene it's pilot with the Kurogane Gang) fighting Mazinger Z and the guy you mentioned was Blade AKA Tetsuya Tsurugi and with him... Great Mazinger shooting Thunder Break!

Yup that's true. Although i am not sure if Tetsuya will be the pilot of Energer Z in the fight with with Mazinger Z.

As for Grendizer, i don't see a place for it in this part of the series. Perhaps if they make a second season (i hope they do) to cover Space Invaders (Emperor Vega and so) then that would be great :)

[Kiggy]

Count Blocken lets Baron Ashura borrow the kikaiju River F-9 (Ep 61) to retrieve Danube Alpha 1(Rhine X-1), Apparently a program left by Kenzo Kabuto takes over the castle defenses, Stroheim and Tsubasa manage to fend them off, Stroheim wants to use Shiro to finish his preparations for Danube Alpha 1 but Baron Ashura intervenes and takes Danube, just as Koji finishes repairing Pilder, Cross escapes with Tsubasa and the kids as Gamia helps Ankokuji escape from the collapsing castle, Stroheim pleads to Ashura to let him finish Danube, Ashura says no and with a shield takes out Stroheim, as he lays dying, he reveals to Lorelei the truth and how they wanted to use Shiro as a final trigger, Lorelei accepts her father's legacy even as Shiro pleads with her not to do it, She merges with Danube Alpha 1 and destroys River F-9 (in Episode 61, he also was a pushover) and then faces Mazinger Z in a tragic battle for Shiro.

Next: the Coming of Kedora

Sad to see this Lorelei suffering the same fate as in the original. :cry:

[Kiggy]

In the new opening that starts with Episode 16, do I see Grendizer and/or Duke Fleed?

No, We see Energer Z (and in other scene it's pilot with the Kurogane Gang) fighting Mazinger Z and the guy you mentioned was Blade AKA Tetsuya Tsurugi and with him... Great Mazinger shooting Thunder Break!

Any chances of Minerva X coming back from the dead?:P

[Kiggy]

Ep 16:

The debut (in this timeline anyway) of BOSS BOROT... ¡UY-UY-UY! and Duke Gorgon

Call me a sentimental, nostalgic sap, but I miss Ichirô Mizuki's classic OP and ED songs, and Shunsuke Kikuchi's BGM from the original series.

[Vicserr]

Ep 16:
and Count Gorgon

Arch Duke Gorgon to you!!!!

Call me a sentimental, nostalgic sap, but I miss Ichirô Mizuki's classic OP and ED songs, and Shunsuke Kikuchi's BGM from the original series.I do miss them too, but the current series has great audio tracks

[Gundamhead]

New opening! I have feelings about that. One the one hand we get a typically kick ass action opening sequence instead of just a cruddy clip show. On the other, while I like "The Guardian" O.K. it's not as bad ass as "Kanjite Knight" was.

[Vicserr]

*New Op.
*Koji battles 2 Kikaiju: Garuda C-3 & Balga M-4 (One of them being (the bird) Basler Q-5 from Ep 47).
*Sensei, Django and Yazu watch from afar.
*Koji is riled up with the discovery that Tsubasa is his (and Shiro) mother, they decide to stay now at the PEL
*She admits of killing Kenzo.
*Mazinger Z destroys the kikaiju but as the Kurogane gang gets down from the roof, Sensei notices something.
*Count Blocken joins Dr Hell and Vizcount Pigman in the excavation of Bardos Island were Mikene relics are still being unearthed.
*Dr Hell shows his henchmen the Kedora tubes and that he inserted one of the capsules inside one of the kikaiju.
*As they laugh another capsule with something very familiar inside cracks.
*Koji still can believe that Tsubasa is their mother and gets visited by Sayaka, they enjoy a night under the stars.
*Kedora attacks the PEL and takes control of Mazinger.
*hey, it's Boss Borot!!!!
*And just like in the original series... he's Useless.
*The possesed Mazinger heads toward Kurogane house and the gang hits it with everything they have.
*Koji and Sayaka get on the attack with Pilder.
*Koji jumps on Mazinger's head to take out Kedora.
*We get a history lesson on the Kedora.
*4 Kikaiju pop up (a mash-up of different kikaiju from the tv series) to capture Mazinger Z, but the Kedora has a different idea and blast them into oblivion.
*Hey, it's Mao Dante!!!!
*And Kedora will use it to destroy humankind, Koji gets the God/Devil speech on his head one again.
*Tsubasa rescues Koji and they rescue Mazinger.
*They destroy the Kedora as Dr Hell purges the Kedora tubes.
*The Kedora were the reason Tsubasa Killed Kenzo.
*Arch Duke Gorgon is tired of Dr Hell's bungling, breaks out of his stasis tube and is now taking over the operation.

[Kiggy]

Ep 16:
and Count Gorgon

Arch Duke Gorgon to you!!!!



Sonuvabitch! I meant to fix that as I was typing and forgot a second later. :anger200: Fixed now.

By the way, have you seen how the kika...Machine Beasts seem to have shrunken in size since the first episodes?

[Vicserr]

The plot thckens as the road to the Grand Finale approaches.

*As Koji and Tsubasa recover from their encounter with Kedora, Dr. Hell, Count Blocken and Vizcount Pygman encounter ArchDuke Gorgon.
*As they escape, Gorgon cuts Blocken's Cyborg body in half.
*Dr. Hell orders his Talos robots (the generic kikaiju) to destroy the pillars, but they are sodidly under the command of Gorgon.
*A pillar breaks thru the Earth in front of the PEL .
*The Kedora AI survived the battle and escapes to the pillar.
*The Pillar sprouts tentacles that envelop the PEL, Mazinger goes weed wackying but the tencacles have found the Japanium repository.
*Gorgon has found the Japanium but decides to take out Dr. Hell and his cronies first.
*Vizcount Pygman uses his powers to protect his cohorts.
*As Gorgon mocks Count Blocken, He calls upon his extra cyborg bodies to overwhelm ArchDuke Gorgon and apparently destroy him.
*Dr. Hell Offers a truce to the PEL because if they don't stop Kedora from getting the Japanium, the world is doomed.
*Tsubasa agrees and Mazinger has to enter the pillar, Dr. Hell's assigned guide for this mission is... Baron Ashura.
*We get why Ashura is so loyal to Dr. Hell, and the Kurogane gang joins in as they enter the pillar.
*We go back to ancient Mikene, where ancient warriors attack Bardos island, but are quickly dealt with by the Talos kikaiju.
*ArchDuke Gorgon, Tristan and Isolde enjoy the kikaiju display of might and plan to gain God bodies, conquer the Earth and exterminate the humans.
*Something that Zeus doesn't like... as the mission of those three is to mantain the Gods in fighting shape for the war.
*The trio is flustered, but Gorgon reveals to Tristan and Isolde that a change of command is coming and that Lord Hades will take over the Earth operations, something that they like very much..
*Thru the time warp Ashura, Mazinger and the Kurogane gang arrive at Bardos.
*They see Zeus and Ashura reveals that they have arrived at the day of the fall of the Mikene civilization.
*Ashura wants to stop the fall, but is stopped by Django and Cross and that Kerora is using the illusion to hide.
*Ashura recognizes his/her former selves...
*Yazu tries to take the Kedora out but it's stopped by Gorgon and discover tha even in the illusion, they can get hurt and die.
*Mikene troops pursue our heroes.
*A kikaiju blocks their path, Garadoublas, Garada K-7 and Doublas M-2 shared the same body in ancient times.
*As Koji and the crew are surrounded Garadoublas reveals the hybrid nature of Baron Ashura to Tristan and Isolde.
*As Ashura tells Tristan and Isolde that he is them, GaradaDoublas strikes where Koji and the others stand.

*Next: The Fall of Mikene!!

[Kiggy]

Until the next episode summary, let's take a look at this humorous interlude (http://www.neomonsterisland.com/tktarkv/vol4/031/1532/1.html), courtesy of Twisted Kaiju Theater. (Some content NSFW.)

[Vicserr]

As Garadoublas slaps down on our brave crew, Cross holds it's hand up with his Super Alloy Z arms, letting Koji and Tsubasa escape before going down, Django and Master help their escape with Pilder, Ashura is captured by ArchDuke Gorgon and Yazu uses his Photon Bomb to get Garadoublas out of his Mistress' back, Zeus notices the explosion.

As Koji, Tsubasa, Django and Master find refuge they hatch a plan to get at the surviving Kedora AI, Gorgon, Tristan and Isorde hatch a plan to lower Zeus' Guard using Baron Ashura's uncanny resemblance to Tristan and help their plans to take over Earth with Zeus replacement, Lord Hades, entombing Tristan and Isolde in a way that could never be opened, so that the Mikene empire would never be stopped, our heroes now have to rescue Ashura, Zeus falls for the trap as he's ambushed by Gorgon and Lord Hades.

An all out Battle Royale between the forces of Good and Evil starts, with the fate of both worlds hangs in the balance in a 5 way between Zeus and Hades, Tsubasa VS Kedora, Baron Ashura's conflicting loyalies, Django and Master Double Teaming Gorgon and the Return of Garadoublas VS Mazinger Z, With an Special Apperance by the Great Emperor of Darkness (From Great Mazinger) and the mystery of Kenzo Kabuto deepens.

Next: Black Magic, Tetsuya and Energer Z!!!!!

[Fencedude]

Blargh.

Needless tragedy was needless. Fuck you Stroheim.

[Fencedude]

Kedora sounds very familiar, dunno why.

Anyway, interesting stuff. blah blah blah at least Sayaka is around again.

[Fencedude]

Huh, Gorgon is gone for now.

But anyway, backstory. Or at least more of it. Curious to see where things are going from here.

[Fencedude]

FUCK YEAH ROCKET PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANCH!

Zeus is pretty awesome.

And lol Ankoku Daishogun.

[Fencedude]

So Tetsuya's dead? (maybe...)

And of course, the arm Zeus ROCKET PAAAAANCHED with is the source of the Japanium ore. That makes perfect sense.

[Fencedude]

After extensive listening and comparison, I have concluded that Shugoshin - The Guardian > Kanjite Knight

And in other news, while Tsuyoki Mono yo is a pretty good song, I don't think it needed 15 girls singing it.

[Mazinkaizer]

After extensive listening and comparison, I have concluded that Shugoshin - The Guardian > Kanjite Knight

And in other news, while Tsuyoki Mono yo is a pretty good song, I don't think it needed 15 girls singing it.

15 girls ! really ? oh well it's way better than the previous ED IMO, which was too generic for my taste. The 2 OP rocks though i am a bit biased toward Kanjite Knight since it has the 80s rock touches in it.

Now we have 2 theme songs for Shin Mazinger set for him in a SRW game in the future ;)

[Fencedude]

Now we have 2 theme songs for Shin Mazinger set for him in a SRW game in the future ;)

Indeed. Will be very interested in seeing how SRW handles having actual new Mazinger plot to deal with.

[Vicserr]

As Boss and his gang work at Kurogame House, Tsubasa falls ill and she encounters Tetsuya Tsurugi and as Dr hell rebuilds his base,Pygman hatches a plan to kill Tsubasa with help from Count Blocken, an Iron Cross Force pursues an escapee who is assisted by Koji, Boss, Nuke and Mucha who play soccer with Blocken's head but as they rescue the stranger a mysterious robot rises from the mountain, this stranger turns out to be Baron Ashura. She is driven to madness by a spirit attack by Pygman, Koji remembers the events He saw at the pillar, we see how Tsubasa met Kenzo and the genius piloting abilities of Tetsuya, Pygman reveals that Zeus arm is the thing that's boosting his curse and form a ball of fire raises Energer Z, piloted by Kenzo Kabuto!!!!!!!!!

Next Curses and Father and Son battle for the fate of Photon Power

[Fencedude]

And finally the full backstory comes out. We find out why Tsubasa killed Kenzo, and why Tetsuya holds his grudge. Though, there are a few inconsistencies still...

Meanwhile Mazinger and Energer (I loved the ENERGER Z! Logo that popped up) duke it out, Kouji generally getting his ass kicked. But at the end...GOD SCRANDER!?

[Fencedude]

BIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGG BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNGGGG PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNCCHHHH!!!

And some other stuff

[Kiggy]

And we finally get to see Tsubasa naked! (Even if it was for a split second before she herself "split"). Arigato Nagai-Sensei & Imagawa-Sensei! ^_^

[Fencedude]

Uhh...way too much recap. Lame episode.

[Vicserr]

As the Profs want a nude photo of Sayaka to make a new robot for her (that they already finished, the old Bastards) Koji's relationship with Sayaka grows as the forces of Dr Hell start their assault on Japan, the SDF (very old school using F-4 Phantoms) is no match for the Kikaiju and Fortress Gore and Budo. As Prof Yumi is trying to finish the barrier, Inspector Ankokuji appears very cryptic, Boss Borot gets a new paint job. Tsubasa is rallying her gang to the upcoming struggle, the Mazinger Corps face the Ashura Kikaiju as Tsubasa, Koji, Shiro and even Dr Hell pay their respects to Juzo Kabuto and offers Koji a Duel for all the marbles, even as Venus Ace is overwhemed by the Ashura Kikaiju and even against a stacked deck, Koji and Mazinger Z will face the forces of evil... because He's THE MAN!!!!

Next: Duel to the Death!!!!!

[Vicserr]

It's mostly recap with some good tasty morsels...

As Dr Hell prepares for the All Out invasion of Japan, Duke Gorgon prophetizes his death, We see the Kurogane Gang congregate for an all out fight, we see how VizCount Pigman infiltrated the Kurogane House in the guise of the escaping Baron Ashura, Ashura is in crisis as he remembers his betrayal o Mikene but his loyalty to Dr. Hell is rewarded with a new Kikaiju in his image and a new Submarine Fortress, Budo as the Armies of Dr. Hell launch their attack on the islands of Japan. the final battle is about to begin!!!!!

[Kiggy]

As the Profs want a nude photo of Sayaka to make a new robot for her (that they already finished, the old Bastards) Koji's relationship with Sayaka grows as the forces of Dr Hell start their assault on Japan, the SDF (very old school using F-4 Phantoms) is no match for the Kikaiju and Fortress Gore and Budo. As Prof Yumi is trying to finish the barrier, Inspector Ankokuji appears very cryptic, Boss Borot gets a new paint job. Tsubasa is rallying her gang to the upcoming struggle, the Mazinger Corps face the Ashura Kikaiju as Tsubasa, Koji, Shiro and even Dr Hell pay their respects to Juzo Kabuto and offers Koji a Duel for all the marbles, even as Venus Ace is overwhemed by the Ashura Kikaiju and even against a stacked deck, Koji and Mazinger Z will face the forces of evil... because He's THE MAN!!!!

Next: Duel to the Death!!!!!

Venus A's moves and weapons are reminiscent of another Dynamic™ creation: Getter Ryger, from Getter Robo G. (aka Star Arrow in Starvengers). I think.... Vicserr, throw me a bone here.

Also, we got a cameo of sorts from another Go Nagai creation.

Plus, naked Sayaka for the win.:nosebleed:

[Fencedude]

I like that Sayaka's not useless, but god damn they half-assed the relationship aspect of the series.

I like the new interpretation of Venus A, even if this will probably be the only time it does something cool.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Kouji took the lame, easy and not particularly cool choice.,

[Vicserr]

The Grand Finale has Arrived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As the Combined forces of Dr. Hell invade Japan and Mazinger Z faces Baron Ashura's trap, Sayaka talks with Tsubasa as her gang prepares for the siege of Atami putting Boss and the gang hiding on the grounds and dump Ankokuji and Gamia on a cell. Mazinger Z faces an onslaught of Kikaiju (some based on kikaiju from the original series), God Scrander deploys.

Sayaka is attacked by Pygman, but she's saved by Lori and Roll. The forces of Baron Ashura storm the city, Sayaka and the Mazinger Army prepare to scramble, Pygman strikes the PEL with his wild animal forces but it's stopped by the launch of the Mazinger Corps and the raising of the Photon Barrier. The Mazinger Corps engages Count Blocken forces as the Kurogane gang fight Ashura's armies, Boss Borot gets a chance to shine against an Ashura Super Missile, using his powers of illusion Pygman makes it first to the PEL, Prof. Yumi is forced to detonate the Lab, as the forces of evil press their attack Kenzo Kabuto is once again in the presense of Tsubasa, and she takes the opportunity to attack.

OMG!!!!, this Final episodes will be filled to the brim of Super Robot Awesome!!!!

Next: The Fall of Bardos Island!!!!!

[Mazinkaizer]

OMG!!!!, this Final episodes will be filled to the brim of Super Robot Awesome!!!!



Indeed ! though i wouldn't mind if they continue the story with a 2nd season showing more on the other Mazinger stories: Ankoko Da Shogun, Yami no Taiyo, Emperor Vega...etc

[Fencedude]

Well, that certainly was hectic.

[PsychoGoatee]

I love this show, best of the year I'd say.

It is pretty weird that the Bandia channel version is a few minutes longer, and the regular TV-Tokyo broadcast is only 20:54 long.

[Fencedude]

It is pretty weird that the Bandia channel version is a few minutes longer, and the regular TV-Tokyo broadcast is only 20:54 long.

More like really stupid. Chopping 2 minutes arbitrarily from the TV broadcast is quite possibly the most asinine decision ever.

[Mazinkaizer]

It is pretty weird that the Bandia channel version is a few minutes longer, and the regular TV-Tokyo broadcast is only 20:54 long.

More like really stupid. Chopping 2 minutes arbitrarily from the TV broadcast is quite possibly the most asinine decision ever.

Couldn't agree more, the funny part is that the BD release (and i am guessing the DVD as well) contain the unedited complete version of the Eps and the TV version as well :sweat: What a waste of space !! I would have preferred if they used more eps instead of putting the edited ones :depressed:

[Fencedude]

Couldn't agree more, the funny part is that the BD release (and i am guessing the DVD as well) contain the unedited complete version of the Eps and the TV version as well :sweat: What a waste of space !! I would have preferred if they used more eps instead of putting the edited ones :depressed:

They wouldn't put more episodes on the BDs regardless.

[PsychoGoatee]

It is pretty weird that the Bandia channel version is a few minutes longer, and the regular TV-Tokyo broadcast is only 20:54 long.

More like really stupid. Chopping 2 minutes arbitrarily from the TV broadcast is quite possibly the most asinine decision ever.

Couldn't agree more, the funny part is that the BD release (and i am guessing the DVD as well) contain the unedited complete version of the Eps and the TV version as well :sweat: What a waste of space !! I would have preferred if they used more eps instead of putting the edited ones :depressed:

That is pretty funny. I guess some people don't have time for the extra two minutes. :bigsmile:

Speaking of, I hope if this gets licensed it gets a Blu-Ray release in Region 1.

[Fencedude]

Speaking of, I hope if this gets licensed it gets a Blu-Ray release in Region 1.

Don't get your hopes up.

[Vicserr]

OMG!!!!, this Final episodes will be filled to the brim of Super Robot Awesome!!!!



Indeed ! though i wouldn't mind if they continue the story with a 2nd season showing more on the other Mazinger stories: Ankoko Da Shogun, Yami no Taiyo, Emperor Vega...etc

Maybe our wishes will be granted, this (http://tamashii.jp/special/mazingerZ/column/column.php?eid=00030) is the mecha designer's page at Tamashii and some ppl are bringing attention to this set of characters

“○レート編”

that mean... Great - Hen... Great Chapter!

If this means what we think it means... it will be glorious.:bowsmiley:

[Fencedude]

“○レート編”

that mean... Great - Hen... Great Chapter!

If this means what we think it means... it will be glorious.:bowsmiley:

Definitely want that. Great has always been my favorite Mazinger.

[regz91]

OMG!!!!, this Final episodes will be filled to the brim of Super Robot Awesome!!!!



Indeed ! though i wouldn't mind if they continue the story with a 2nd season showing more on the other Mazinger stories: Ankoko Da Shogun, Yami no Taiyo, Emperor Vega...etc

Maybe our wishes will be granted, this (http://tamashii.jp/special/mazingerZ/column/column.php?eid=00030) is the mecha designer's page at Tamashii and some ppl are bringing attention to this set of characters

“○レート編”

that mean... Great - Hen... Great Chapter!

If this means what we think it means... it will be glorious.:bowsmiley:

Sorry to have to say this, but it doesn't mean what you think it means.

(Spoilers for Episode 25 follow. I'm not going to tag them because it's pretty hard to talk about this without them.)

The page you linked is the mecha designer doing a summary of Episode 25. A very rough translation of the paragraph in question:

"The Fortress of Science! A "What is this doing here!?" kind of appearance. A moment that makes you think "Is this the start of the Great-Chapter!?" And then suddenly, they appear! Imagawa's obligatory Mass-Produced Robot Army! Whether it's Getter Robo G or Black Ox, under Imagawa's direction the mass-produced models can multiply instantly."

(The Fortress of Science is the main base for Great Mazinger. Getter Robo G refers to Getter Robo: Armageddon, while Black Ox refers to Tetsujin 28, both Imagawa shows where those robots were mass-produced. Although, I thought officially they weren't supposed to say Imagawa worked on Armageddon? I guess after 10 years nobody gives a damn anymore.)

Anyway, what the writer was trying to say was that the appearance of the Fortress of Science was a red herring to make you think Great Mazinger was going to swoop in and save the day, only for Imagawa to throw a curveball by having the saviors turn out to be about a gajillion Mazinger Army models. It has nothing to do with whether or not the creators are actually working on a Great-Chapter, it's just the writer being cute.

This is just my personal opinion, but I don't think further chapters are coming. Imagawa loves the idea of a story so vast that the show he actually directed can only contain a small portion of it. It feels very much in his style to simply call something "Z-Chapter" and then leave it at that. And just look at the poor man's workload - in addition to serving as director, he wrote every episode and helped storyboard the vast majority of them (including about a third of them by himself). After this Saturday when the series ends, he'll be lucky to still be on his feet, let alone in any condition to be doing another season.

[PsychoGoatee]

That's great and epic that Imagawa did all that. Just for the record, how do you know the full extent that he was involved in like that? Does he have a blog? Or is it just in the credits (which I can't read)? :bigsmile:

[regz91]

That's great and epic that Imagawa did all that. Just for the record, how do you know the full extent that he was involved in like that? Does he have a blog? Or is it just in the credits (which I can't read)? :bigsmile:

Normally I would say the credits, which should list things like who wrote and storyboarded the episode. For this show, however, things get complicated. Instead of a storyboard and episode direction credit, the broadcast version only lists an "On TV Editing" credit (credited to Imagawa for each episode). I assume this has to do with how the broadcast version is technically an edit of the actual episode, not the episode itself. For the first half of the series, Bandai Channel would air the full episode, and that version would have proper storyboard credits. Now that they stopped doing that, though, the only source for accurate individual episode credits is in magazines like Newtype, which list that information alongside their episode summaries.

Also, I have to correct myself after checking the full list of credits: Imagawa has actually storyboarded almost HALF the series by himself. Since I have the list in front of me now, I'll list them here for those who are interested. Imagawa storyboarded 11 episodes by himself: 1, 6, 14, 18-22, 24-26. He then storyboarded an additional 9 in collaboration with somebody else: 2, 4-5, 7-9, 13, 15-16. Only 6 episodes were storyboarded by somebody else entirely: 3, 10-12, 17, 23. And, as I said before, Imagawa wrote every episode. I'm pretty sure that's some kind of record.

[Fencedude]

This is just my personal opinion, but I don't think further chapters are coming. Imagawa loves the idea of a story so vast that the show he actually directed can only contain a small portion of it. It feels very much in his style to simply call something "Z-Chapter" and then leave it at that. And just look at the poor man's workload - in addition to serving as director, he wrote every episode and helped storyboard the vast majority of them (including about a third of them by himself). After this Saturday when the series ends, he'll be lucky to still be on his feet, let alone in any condition to be doing another season.

I find this to be one of his more fantastically obnoxious habits. See also Giant Robo.

Also, while its nice that he's taken so much upon himself, the show has some serious pacing issues, and sticking a recap in at episode 23 is terribly bad form.

[Mazinkaizer]

Speaking of, I hope if this gets licensed it gets a Blu-Ray release in Region 1.

While i would like to remain optimistic and say you never know. It's most likely what Fencedude mentioned. IMO you have a better chance of convincing BV to include English sub on the Japanese BDs than to ask an R1 company to license it or release it as it is without cramping it to a dub only movie(s) :sweat:

[Fencedude]

While i would like to remain optimistic and say you never know. It's most likely what Fencedude mentioned. IMO you have a better chance of convincing BV to include English sub on the Japanese BDs than to ask an R1 company to license it or release it as it is without cramping it to a dub only movie(s) :sweat:

*sigh*

Can we not conflate completely separate issues? No one is going to chop this into compilation movies, don't act like that is even remotely plausible.

[Fencedude]

Lots of awesome this time around, though the cuts were really noticible this time around (the destruction of Million, and the transition to the Mazinger Army scene were particularly abrupt)

[Mazinkaizer]

While i would like to remain optimistic and say you never know. It's most likely what Fencedude mentioned. IMO you have a better chance of convincing BV to include English sub on the Japanese BDs than to ask an R1 company to license it or release it as it is without cramping it to a dub only movie(s) :sweat:

*sigh*

Can we not conflate completely separate issues? No one is going to chop this into compilation movies, don't act like that is even remotely plausible.

I am not !! i am just reflecting on the sad status of the R1 market when it comes to classic shows or their reincarnations in general.

[Mazinkaizer]

There are so much elements/characters in the story that can explored or still left, which i highly doubt that the last eps will be enough to cover. Anyway let's wait for the next eps and see.

As for Eps 25, it was amazing yet a bit over-paced in some segments. Now i could have sworn that i saw Great Mazinger (the same scene from Eps 1) from behind Blade (???) and the flames.

[Fencedude]

I am not !! i am just reflecting on the sad status of the R1 market when it comes to classic shows or their reincarnations in general.

Bringing up the "hack into compilation movies" is completely ridiculous. This will either get licensed or it won't, but its not going to be turned into compilation movies, even bringing it up shows a complete lack of understanding.

[Mazinkaizer]

I am not !! i am just reflecting on the sad status of the R1 market when it comes to classic shows or their reincarnations in general.

Bringing up the "hack into compilation movies" is completely ridiculous. This will either get licensed or it won't, but its not going to be turned into compilation movies, even bringing it up shows a complete lack of understanding.

Well i am free to state my thoughts/opinion how or where i like ! if you don't like it then it's up to you.

[Fencedude]

Attn: Ishikawa

Sequel.

NOW

[Kiggy]

Attn: Ishikawa

Sequel.

NOW

Amen, Brother!

:beat:

[VinceA]

Need more.... soon

At least the word that there will be more would be nice.

[Westlo]

The only thing that could've improved episode 26 is Duke Gorgon yelling out... GORGON TAICHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mazinkaizer]

I am pretty sure that we'll see more of Shin Mazinger thought it will probably be next year. Anyway very good show and excellent job by the production team.

[Vicserr]

I am pretty sure that we'll see more of Shin Mazinger thought it will probably be next year. Anyway very good show and excellent job by the production team.

If this article from the Kuwait Times (http://mazinsaurus.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/articulo-del-periodico-kuwait-times/) is to be believed (from MazinSaurus blog), we just might get a new Shin Mazinger.:bowsmiley:

[Mazinkaizer]

I am pretty sure that we'll see more of Shin Mazinger thought it will probably be next year. Anyway very good show and excellent job by the production team.

If this article from the Kuwait Times (http://mazinsaurus.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/articulo-del-periodico-kuwait-times/) is to be believed (from MazinSaurus blog), we just might get a new Shin Mazinger.:bowsmiley:

Well we can never know until it is officially confirmed. Though with some common sense i believe it just a matter of time before we see more of Mazin Go.

Though i wonder if the plan is to include the Grendizer arc this time, or just pass it to Mazinkaizer. Or simply continue with a powered up Mazinger(s).

On the other hand, my lucky bastard friend in Kuwait got his SOC Grendizer figure signed by Go Nagai. But then again i got some exclusive merchandises from his Go Wonder Land Museum in Wajima :devil:

[Vicserr]

Well, it has been announced in this Year "Salon del Manga" in Barcelona last October that Shin Mazinger Z will come to DVD... in Spain (http://ramenparados.blogspot.com/2009/10/selecta-vision-licencia-shin-mazinger-z.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+RamenParaDos+%28Ramen+Para+Do s%29) (Lucky Bastards!!!) by Selecta Vision (http://www.selecta-vision.com/), the company previously released the Mazinger Z manga in Spain, so If you live in Europe and/or understand Spanish, you have an option.

[VinceA]

I'm happy for the Spanish Giant Robot fans. I doubt that the little high school Spanish knowledge left in my skull will cover the dialog.

[hissatsu]

Seeing as how often characters are revived from the dead in Shin Mazinger, it seems appropriate I revive this thread. I only just watched the show, and I loved it. Took me a while to get around to it, since I never watched any previous Mazinger incarnations. But I loved Giant Robo and expect great things from Imagawa, so I really shouldn't be surprised that I liked it.

After watching I went onto Amazon.co.jp to see how much the blu-ray boxes were going for, and I was a bit surprised by the reviews. I knew the show didn't sell well, but I figured it was just because old school giant robot stuff isn't exactly popular anymore. But the reviews are brutal. I read (slowly) through some of the many 1 star reviews. These are not happy campers. So I guess this was indicative of Japanese fan reaction? I was just surprised to see how much it was disliked.

I imagine the ending didn't go over very well either. I felt glad for Ashura. Finally vengeance on everyone and a measure of peace at last. Such a tortured character - a very memorable villain.

[Mazinkaizer]

According to Go Nagai himself (his interview can found at ANN), the main target for the Shin Mazinger is the old school Robot anime fans and the fans who grew up watching the Mazinger Trilogy. Definitely not a show that was aiming to sell like say: Bleach or One Piece ? But then again it's the same story with the majority of his remade shows ever since Shin Cutie Honey (1994).

I bought the BD sets and i am happy with the show, i just hope that they don't take so much time to make another season.

[Fencedude]

Well, I'm not sure what those reviews say, but while I enjoyed the series, I do think it has some major structural issues, and really could have been much better than it was. It generally succeeded in spite of itself, getting by on sheer awesome rather than coherency and logical plot and character paths.

[hissatsu]

It generally succeeded in spite of itself, getting by on sheer awesome rather than coherency and logical plot and character paths.

I think sheer awesome was the goal. For me logic has to be thrown out the window pretty quick with this type of show. Though I still don't understand what the point of the first episode was, other than creating confusion.

[Mazinkaizer]

Now here is sort of an update:

from ANN:

The June issue of Hobby Japan magazine is revealing a new original video animation project called MazinKaizer SKL on Saturday. The new project is billed as the return of the MazinKaiser anime franchise, which is itself a spinoff from Go Nagai's classic super robot manga and anime series, Mazinger Z. More details will be announced in the future.

The anime studio Brains Base and the distributor Bandai Visual released the first MazinKaiser video anime series in 2001. The Mazinkaiser: Shitou! Ankoku Daishogun video anime project followed in 2003.

Now it remains to be seen if this will be a sequel to the Shin Mazinger anime, sequel to the 2001-2003 OVAs, or complete reboot ?

Perhaps Go Nagai wants to make the Mazinger & Mazinkaizer sagas on separate anime or so. Oh well let's wait and see. I am surly looking forward to this one.

MAZIN GO !!!

[PsychoGoatee]

Should be great, Mazinkaiser rocks. If it was a sequel to True Mazinger you figure they'd go for Great Mazinger as a focus. Plus True Mazinger kind of ended "in the middle of the action"...

So, I'll take a guess that this'll be a sequel to the Mazinkaiser stuff, but we'll see. I'm sure it'll be cool either way.

[Vicserr]

Now here is sort of an update:

from ANN:

The June issue of Hobby Japan magazine is revealing a new original video animation project called MazinKaizer SKL on Saturday. The new project is billed as the return of the MazinKaiser anime franchise, which is itself a spinoff from Go Nagai's classic super robot manga and anime series, Mazinger Z. More details will be announced in the future.

The anime studio Brains Base and the distributor Bandai Visual released the first MazinKaiser video anime series in 2001. The Mazinkaiser: Shitou! Ankoku Daishogun video anime project followed in 2003.Now it remains to be seen if this will be a sequel to the Shin Mazinger anime, sequel to the 2001-2003 OVAs, or complete reboot ?

Perhaps Go Nagai wants to make the Mazinger & Mazinkaizer sagas on separate anime or so. Oh well let's wait and see. I am surly looking forward to this one.

MAZIN GO !!!


I'm always up for more chapters of the Mazin Saga, and this will hopefully rock

PS: Official Page is up (http://www.mazinkaizer-skl.com/)

[Mazinkaizer]

I'm always up for more chapters of the Mazin Saga, and this will hopefully rock

PS: Official Page is up (http://www.mazinkaizer-skl.com/)

Looks cool, but who are those characters :sweat:

[PsychoGoatee]

Looks cool, but who are those characters

Call me crazy, I'd say they're Tetsuya Tsurugi and Kabuto Kouji.

It is interesting that their clothes and overall design is different. Maybe this won't be a continuation of any of the anime after all, but it's still possible.

[Mazinkaizer]

Looks cool, but who are those characters

Call me crazy, I'd say they're Tetsuya Tsurugi and Kabuto Kouji.

It is interesting that their clothes and overall design is different. Maybe this won't be a continuation of any of the anime after all, but it's still possible.

I think so too, well the common sense answer is that they can't be any other than Kouji or Tetsuya.....but who knows ?

[Mazinkaizer]

The site has been updated with some details, and teaser. It is also available at Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62CZ1hC3OMo&feature=related

Looks promising, though it seems to be a complete reboot and not related to Shin Mazinger or the previous OVAs. Oh well, i guess we'll have to wait a bit more for news on Shin Mazinger (S2 or so). For now i am looking forward to this one.

[Mazinkaizer]

I guess that's the last news about Mazinkaizer SKL here since it won't have anything to do with Shin Mazinger.

According to wiki, Mazinkaizer SKL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazinkaizer_SKL) will be screened on November 27th before getting a BD/DVD release. The show will be three OVA eps.

Won't comment on the show before watching it, but i hope that while we wait and see. Shin Mazinger Season 2 is being worked on :sweat:

[Vicserr]

Ok, guessing that is better late than never, for those of you that can play R2 or Area B and have an affinity with Castillian (AKA Spanish from Spain) you can pick up "Mazinger Z: ¡Edicion Impacto!" (http://www.selecta-vision.com/mazingerz/mazingerz.html) thanks to Bandai Visual and Selecta Vision on DVD and Blu Ray.

And some bad news, Bandai has announced that there won't be any Shin Mazinger Shogeki Great-hen. :depressed:

[hissatsu]

It's amusing that it gets a dub/sub DVD/BD singles release in Spain, but probably doesn't have much of a chance of showing up here in any form. Spanish subs would do just about as well for me as English subs, though after recently buying the JP BD boxes, I'm not exactly looking to add even more to my expenses.

As for no more Shin Mazinger, that's not exactly a surprise. The JP sales were pretty terrible.

[Mazinkaizer]

And some bad news, Bandai has announced that there won't be any Shin Mazinger Shogeki Great-hen. :depressed:

Well that's really sad ! The show has potential to succeed the 70s trilogy with darker elements and so. But i guess this isn't the stuff that sells anymore, so it will join up with another fine shows that didn't spark enough interest to commence sequels/more seasons such as: Guyver TV, Claymore, Angel Heart....etc

[Fencedude]

And some bad news, Bandai has announced that there won't be any Shin Mazinger Shogeki Great-hen. :depressed:

Well that's really sad ! The show has potential to succeed the 70s trilogy with darker elements and so. But i guess this isn't the stuff that sells anymore, so it will join up with another fine shows that didn't spark enough interest to commence sequels/more seasons such as: Guyver TV, Claymore, Angel Heart....etc

This show (and those shows, for that matter) don't appeal to the audience that buys lots of DVDs/BDs.

Also Claymore shot itself in the foot, IMO. I wouldn't place it as a "fine show"

[Westlo]

Also Claymore shot itself in the foot, IMO. I wouldn't place it as a "fine show"

Yeah going with an anime original ending that sucked was bad enough.. but the ending pretty much makes it impossible to continue with the manga material. I don't care what some of those morons on ANN think, but Clare rescuing Raki alone fucks everything up, not to mention even meeting, let alone fighting and beating Priscilla at that weak level.

How the fuck do you rewrite that shit so that Raki was with prissy the entire 7 year time skip after clare and co are supposed to be dead. There was so much going on in the grand scheme of things too during those events, they didn't even set up the "real" bad guys.

[Mazinkaizer]

And some bad news, Bandai has announced that there won't be any Shin Mazinger Shogeki Great-hen. :depressed:

Well that's really sad ! The show has potential to succeed the 70s trilogy with darker elements and so. But i guess this isn't the stuff that sells anymore, so it will join up with another fine shows that didn't spark enough interest to commence sequels/more seasons such as: Guyver TV, Claymore, Angel Heart....etc

This show (and those shows, for that matter) don't appeal to the audience that buys lots of DVDs/BDs.

Also Claymore shot itself in the foot, IMO. I wouldn't place it as a "fine show"

Agreed about Claymore, the ending would not have been this way if the show was actually planned to span for more season(s).

For Shin Mazinger, you pretty much said the same thing i did. I I also believe that the show creators knew this already a head and even Go Nagai stated in his interview that the show targeted older fans that grew up watching the 70s mecha shows. Meaning that they were not expecting the show to sell like say: One Piece or Bleach in the first place. But i guess even their humble expectations were not met as well. Well as i always say "Never say never". Hopefully, my other favorite show from 2009 "Guin Saga" will have a better luck in getting more season(s).

[Fencedude]

For Shin Mazinger, you pretty much said the same thing i did. I I also believe that the show creators knew this already a head and even Go Nagai stated in his interview that the show targeted older fans that grew up watching the 70s mecha shows. Meaning that they were not expecting the show to sell like say: One Piece or Bleach in the first place. But i guess even their humble expectations were not met as well. Well as i always say "Never say never". Hopefully, my other favorite show from 2009 "Guin Saga" will have a better luck in getting more season(s).

The fact that you mention One Piece and Bleach makes me think you don't pay much attention to what actually sells DVDs/BDs in Japan.

[Mazinkaizer]

Ok, guessing that is better late than never, for those of you that can play R2 or Area B and have an affinity with Castillian (AKA Spanish from Spain) you can pick up "Mazinger Z: ¡Edicion Impacto!" (http://www.selecta-vision.com/mazingerz/mazingerz.html) thanks to Bandai Visual and Selecta Vision on DVD and Blu Ray.



The BD release is actually a good deal since it has both BD & DVD for a price less than the Japanese release. Since my friend have been pondering on getting the Japanese BDs (which i already did) then this is also a good alternative.