Haruhi 2

[Draneor]

As mentioned on the unofficial IRC channel, the new Haruhi DVDs will have English subtitles. (http://kyotoanimation.shop-pro.jp/?pid=14691827) 4,830 yen for two episodes (for the first one anyway).

[The Great Bear]

As mentioned on the unofficial IRC channel, the new Haruhi DVDs will have English subtitles. (http://kyotoanimation.shop-pro.jp/?pid=14691827) 4,830 yen for two episodes (for the first one anyway).

Interesting. That raises their import value considerably. I was definitely going to pass on importing the second "season" of Haruhi, but considering Bandai's current state of licensing, and the fact that these will have subtitles, might be enough to change my mind.

[DiGiKerot]

As mentioned on the unofficial IRC channel, the new Haruhi DVDs will have English subtitles. (http://kyotoanimation.shop-pro.jp/?pid=14691827) 4,830 yen for two episodes (for the first one anyway).

Actually, I think that's just the one episode on that volume - Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody.

I realise that the running time says 43 minutes, but that's clearly not long enough for two episode. Also, looking at the two volumes of the season one release which only had one episode on them (Episode 00, and Someday in the Rain), they were including extras in the disks running times - both of those disks were labelled at more than 40 minutes as well.

I suspect future volumes will have two episodes rather than one, but I'd be looking to expect them to stretch this show out over 7-8 volumes.

That said, if it's subtitled, I kind of suspect I'll probably wnd up buying it anyway. They really need to do Blu-ray as well, though.

-edit- As a side note, it sounds like the LE releases are going for the same hellish extras as the first season did - there's something you will get (a Postcard/Coaster, from what I gather), but it'll be random from a selection of five. Then there's a completely random possibility that you might just happen to get an additional secret coaster. Possibly.

[Draneor]

Actually, I think that's just the one episode on that volume - Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody.

I realise that the running time says 43 minutes, but that's clearly not long enough for two episode.

Ah you're right. I was going off of the running time, but I forgot it included extras. It's really expensive, isn't it? ^^U

[DiGiKerot]

Actually, I think that's just the one episode on that volume - Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody.

I realise that the running time says 43 minutes, but that's clearly not long enough for two episode.

Ah you're right. I was going off of the running time, but I forgot it included extras. It's really expensive, isn't it? ^^U

Yes, but they know it'll sell anyway, and given the way they've set up the extras again, they know that some people will be buying multiple copies...

[Oniko]

Hmm, I just might get this myself. It really helps that there will be subtitles on it- my Hubby won't tease me so much over this then. But I might just restrict my purchases to the volumes that definitely have new episodes on them. I don't really need doubles.

[DiGiKerot]

Hmm, I just might get this myself. It really helps that there will be subtitles on it- my Hubby won't tease me so much over this then. But I might just restrict my purchases to the volumes that definitely have new episodes on them. I don't really need doubles.

I'm assuming that this is just going to be the new episodes, given that they are starting with Bamboo Leaf.

Although I do guess there's the question of how many version of Endless Eight you want...

[something]

As mentioned on the unofficial IRC channel, the new Haruhi DVDs will have English subtitles. (http://kyotoanimation.shop-pro.jp/?pid=14691827) 4,830 yen for two episodes (for the first one anyway).
I see later in the thread that it's probably only 1 episode, so holy shit that's expensive. I've actually been hoping they'd have subtitles, but I have my doubts they'll be particularly coherent if Haruhi-chan is any indication whatsoever. Also, I'm not really one to wait for BD, I don't own any, nor a BD drive in my computer, and would never hold off a purchase waiting for one, but I'll have a new computer within a year (before this finishes on DVD most likely) and it'll have a BD drive. So I'd like to see what their plans are for that. Of course, it'll probably be at least 7 discs, and will in total quite possibly cost more than the whole computer, which is mindbogglingly stupid. Also need to see if they're just releasing new eps, or how they're handling the older ones, or if they'll do one super set or... yeah.

Or I could just not be insane and simply wait for an R1 and pay probably 90% less, maybe getting it all in one $60 set. At the very least I don't need to make the decision now, I suppose, but the presence of subtitles at least makes it a potential choice.

[DiGiKerot]

I see later in the thread that it's probably only 1 episode, so holy shit that's expensive. I've actually been hoping they'd have subtitles, but I have my doubts they'll be particularly coherent if Haruhi-chan is any indication whatsoever.

Their sub of Bamboo Leaf is up on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2vCw3nVRmA&feature=PlayList&p=AA844FB687BA335E&index=7) until... tomorrow if you want to check out what the translation quality is like.

[Draneor]

I see later in the thread that it's probably only 1 episode, so holy shit that's expensive.

Yeah. It's pretty bad for a series of this caliber. For one TV episode, I'd expect something around 2,500 yen max. I'm also disappointed that Kadokawa isn't going to release this in blu-ray, when virtually everything else is coming out that way now.

Or I could just not be insane and simply wait for an R1

That's my plan. And if it never comes to R1, R3 will get it. But I'm also not a super-Haruhi fan.

[something]

Or I could just not be insane and simply wait for an R1That's my plan. And if it never comes to R1, R3 will get it. But I'm also not a super-Haruhi fan.
True, though I wonder if the R3s would have the subs (can't see why not though I guess). R3s are relatively cheap though so that'd be an option. I'd like to get the R2s, but it'll be a bit of a stretch for that to become feasible...

[Jumbo]

I've already sworn to myself that the Kara no Kyoukai movies are the last R2 DVD purchase that I'll make. Not going to back down from that now, especially with the release of K-on! on Blu-ray.

Subtitles are a nice gesture but I'd take Blu-ray without subs over DVD's with. Sure, no subs on the Blu-ray would be absurd, but it certainly wouldn't be the most absurd thing in R2 either.

[Buster Darkwings]

Same here, they can suck my cock if they think I'm going to buy a DVD of such a popular show that would sell better on Blu-ray if they would only release it.

And the English subtitles (well, dubtitles really) on R2 DVD but not on Blu-ray has already happened with Brave Story.

[Shiroi Hane]

I really need to cut back so I wasn't planning on picking up anything else other than the Negima OVAs once Clannad and Kara no Kyoukai have finished until Kiddy GiRL-and is released but I will kick myself if I don't get this, especially since I already have the first series on R2 and it has subtitles and all. But.. I kicked myself when Haruhi had better extras in the R1 release and then kicked myself again when the R2UK release duplicated it.
But then again.. I kicked myself when the R1 Lucky Star had better extras than the R2 release but held off for a UK release.. and they decided not to release the last LE even over there.

[Draneor]

It's now up on CD Japan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6001).

[something]

It's now up on CD Japan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6001).
I bought it. For reasons I can't really figure out. :sd:

I could have saved a bit with Amazon but going through "my friend who knows a friend in Japan" to circumvent insane amazon S&H takes too much effort and takes too long, and buying straight from Amazon even at the preorder discount would still cost slightly more thanks to their crazy 2,300 yen shipping fee for a single DVD. I was able to combine with a CD so shipping is only ~$4.50 each on cdj. I'm probably only going to buy this first volume, to be honest. I guess I just want a little piece of the Haruhi R2 action even if I cannot realistically afford to buy it all.

I did check out the BLR episode on YT with Kadokawa's translation and it's really not that great a trans, but I also understood what was going on in the episode (possibly because I'd already seen it with a translation before that though) and it's a lot better than their efforts on Haruhi-chan/Churuya-san.

So this is my first non-doujin (got the Maikaze Touhou DVD, and that ran me *$70* for one episode) R2 purchase. And of course it's something very likely to be licensed... :sd: Now to hope the USD doesn't fall like a rock against the yen between now and late August.

Oh well, gotta spend the money I'm saving on R1s being so cheap somewhere, right?

[Draneor]

So this is my first non-doujin (got the Maikaze Touhou DVD, and that ran me *$70* for one episode) R2 purchase.

^^ (HMV has cheaper shipping than Amazon but only offers 21% off (http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3620270), if you didn't know). Although I intend to wait for R1 myself.^^U

I'm probably only going to buy this first volume, to be honest. I guess I just want a little piece of the Haruhi R2 action even if I cannot realistically afford to buy it all.

Some people have wondered if a BD will follow for the entire series after this. As of right now, we still don't know how they intend to release Endless Eight.

[Oniko]

It's now up on CD Japan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6001).

It's listed on HMV
(http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3620270) as well.

Now I need to place another August order.:sd:

[something]

^^ (HMV has cheaper shipping than Amazon but only offers 21% off (http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3620270), if you didn't know). Although I intend to wait for R1 myself.^^U
Hmm, yeah, for one item shipping is about half the cost of Amazon. It'd actually be slightly cheaper from HMV than CDJapan, but in this case it's more or less the same for various coupon/combined order S&H/frequent shopper point reasons. Something to keep in mind if I order more R2s, though that's somewhat unlikely. Thanks.

[ooga]

I am too lazy to do the research. But this is not a straight sequel of the original right? Is it a remake?

[DiGiKerot]

I am too lazy to do the research. But this is not a straight sequel of the original right? Is it a remake?

It's new episodes, but rather than coming directly after the point where the previous series ended, the episodes positioning is interwoven with those from the first season.

[Hayate Kurogane]

I am too lazy to do the research. But this is not a straight sequel of the original right? Is it a remake?

It's new episodes, but rather than coming directly after the point where the previous series ended, the episodes positioning is interwoven with those from the first season.

In chronological order, too. I'm pretty much ambivalent about the old broadcast vs. chronological debate, but I do find it hilarious how certain friends I know who were always hardline broadcast order people have reacted (badly) to this second official reordering of the series to account for the new episodes. :sdsmiley:

[ooga]

I am too lazy to do the research. But this is not a straight sequel of the original right? Is it a remake?

It's new episodes, but rather than coming directly after the point where the previous series ended, the episodes positioning is interwoven with those from the first season.

Thanks for the info. As if the TV-broadcast order wasn't enough to start debates among fans....now this!:relief:

[something]

In chronological order, too. I'm pretty much ambivalent about the old broadcast vs. chronological debate, but I do find it hilarious how certain friends I know who were always hardline broadcast order people have reacted (badly) to this second official reordering of the series to account for the new episodes. :sdsmiley:
Comparing the 2006 and 2009 airings of Haruhi in that sense is stupid on a fundamental level anyway. They're simply not the same thing. If your friends are upset at the order 2009 is going in, I really think they're missing the point. (Besides, KyoAni hasn't abandoned the old audience mindfuck approach... as the unfortunate rage over Endless Eight illustrates clearly.)

How 2009 should be watched changes nothing about what the best way to watch in 2006 was. And it's not like 2009 is 2006's chronological order anyway - we're already up to the 5th new episode shoved into the original group of 14, of which only 10 have aired as of the 15th week of Haruhi 2009.

Or more simply put: both were intended to be watched in the order they were presented. And for good reason - I think they made the right choice with how they've ordered 2009, just as I am absolutely unrepentant in my support for the order in 2006.

And I still want a fancy R1 mega-box release with all 28[?] episodes together. I'd have no problem rebuying 14 of them. Of course, there's no such thing as a face mega-box release in R1 anymore.

[Hayate Kurogane]

In chronological order, too. I'm pretty much ambivalent about the old broadcast vs. chronological debate, but I do find it hilarious how certain friends I know who were always hardline broadcast order people have reacted (badly) to this second official reordering of the series to account for the new episodes. :sdsmiley:
Comparing the 2006 and 2009 airings of Haruhi in that sense is stupid on a fundamental level anyway. They're simply not the same thing.

I completely understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure I agree with your justification. Otherwise, what is to be said about the chronological reordering of the original episodes for the R2J DVD release, effectively an intended order of the original episodes that supercedes the broadcast order in terms of what is official? I can appreciate the apparent fan-majority-held view that broadcast order > chronological order for the original episodes, but trying to speak purely in subjective terms of things like "should be" or "best" to justify the former over the latter is kind of a troublesome way to make the case.

Well, having to wade through all the old arguments swirling around something I didn't really care about, for moderator-ish reasons, burnt me out on the whole thing pretty quickly. Frankly, I'm still surprised I was able to buy and watch the series as it was being released and still enjoy it after having it be such a burden, through no fault of its own. Though Aya Hirano's voice still was and is a big negative for me. :sweat:

[something]

I completely understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure I agree with your justification. Otherwise, what is to be said about the chronological reordering of the original episodes for the R2J DVD release, effectively an intended order of the original episodes that supercedes the broadcast order in terms of what is official? I can appreciate the apparent fan-majority-held view that broadcast order > chronological order for the original episodes, but trying to speak purely in subjective terms of things like "should be" or "best" to justify the former over the latter is kind of a troublesome way to make the case.
Rather than bring up all the old points, I'll just say that DVD order is utterly secondary to initial airing order for me. The actual experience of watching it for the first time and discussing it with everyone else in the world is what counted then, and what counts today. And it's once again the reason why I feel that people who watch things as they first air interact with their shows and their fandom in a fundamentally different way (a way I like so much better and will never give up at this point) from people who exclusively wait for home video releases - particularly if that means R1s and all the enormous delays and constraints that inevitably come with them.

That's why I'm really happy Kadokawa is legally streaming Haruhi 2k9 with subs (but it really should be on Crunchyroll, and simultaneous, and not up for such a short window), so that people who have objections to watching unauthorized releases can experience it the same way the rest of us will and can join in the shared experience.

After all, Kadokawa seems to be releasing just the new episodes on DVD, not a full 28 episode release with the episodes all where they would be in chronological order. Absolutely understandable, of course - adding even a few discs at R2 prices would break most people's banks and even Kadokawa isn't evil enough to force people to rebuy a significant number of old episodes (well, we hope not anyway). Thus even with Haruhi 2k9 following a chronological progression, the DVD release still won't match the broadcast order without the dreaded disc swapping. Again, the two experiences differ, with home video being the markedly inferior and less important one to me.

[greatcircle]

My question is who the hell will be dumb enough to buy more than one DVD volume of "Endless Eight"...

[something]

My question is who the hell will be dumb enough to buy more than one DVD volume of "Endless Eight"...
I've absolutely loved the episodes I've seen so far of Endless Eight (need to watch the most recent tonight). So, I'm "dumb enough" I guess. So will a few tens of thousands of Japanese, I can guarantee you.

Now I likely wouldn't buy it at R2 prices, but that's because I don't buy R2s (this was something of an exception). If I was used to R2 prices, you damn well bet I'd buy through E8.

[Draneor]

Otherwise, what is to be said about the chronological reordering of the original episodes for the R2J DVD release, effectively an intended order of the original episodes that supercedes the broadcast order in terms of what is official?

Why can't both versions be official in their respective contexts? ;_;

and even Kadokawa isn't evil enough to force people to rebuy a significant number of old episodes (well, we hope not anyway).

Trust me, they will be. But it will be on BD and more expensive. Mark my words.

[something]

Trust me, they will be. But it will be on BD and more expensive.
Well, by "force" I meant "it's the only possible way to buy it" (on any medium). I'm sure they will release *some* kind of combined version eventually.

[Njr Scrawl]

I'm not a MoHS fanatic, but did like the show. One thing I feel sure of, is that Bandai Japan's quality will be superior to Bandai US etc.

Surely this is one show that a spontaeneous release with the US would have scored with, & also shot down some fansub sales loss.

Meanwhile a subbed Blu Ray season 1 release would be welcome.

[Shiroi Hane]

One thing I feel sure of, is that Bandai Japan's quality will be superior to Bandai US etc.
Too bad Kadokawa is releasing it then.
Previous comparisons: http://anime.thenexxus.org/haruhi/stuff/comparisons/

[relentlessflame]

One thing I feel sure of, is that Bandai Japan's quality will be superior to Bandai US etc.
Too bad Kadokawa is releasing it then.
Previous comparisons: http://anime.thenexxus.org/haruhi/stuff/comparisons/Granted that the first scene there is known as the "DVD Killer", but isn't the R2 DVD the nicest version in that comparison? The R1 looks like they cranked the WarpSharp up to max or something. (In any case, the new OP/ED should be much more DVD-encode friendly.)

Edit: Well, I guess I can see why some would prefer the sharper version in terms of a still shot, since it appears to have more detail (even if most of that detail is extrapolated). But the fact that many R2s look a bit "soft" is often deliberate too, and in this case it had the benefit of masking some of the ugly artifacting. *shrug*

[something]

Too bad Kadokawa is releasing it then.
Previous comparisons: http://anime.thenexxus.org/haruhi/stuff/comparisons/Granted that the first scene there is known as the "DVD Killer"
I'm pretty sure that part of the 2k6 OP sequence is a central component in most WMDs.

[Hayate Kurogane]

I completely understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure I agree with your justification. Otherwise, what is to be said about the chronological reordering of the original episodes for the R2J DVD release, effectively an intended order of the original episodes that supercedes the broadcast order in terms of what is official? I can appreciate the apparent fan-majority-held view that broadcast order > chronological order for the original episodes, but trying to speak purely in subjective terms of things like "should be" or "best" to justify the former over the latter is kind of a troublesome way to make the case.
Rather than bring up all the old points, I'll just say that DVD order is utterly secondary to initial airing order for me. The actual experience of watching it for the first time and discussing it with everyone else in the world is what counted then, and what counts today.

Well, the "for me" part is what was kind of lacking in your first post, and that was all I was really getting at. Personal preference = great; the problem arises when it simply seems like folks are trying to push those preferences onto others and doing it with what comes off as excessive amounts of elitism and condescension. I'm not sure what sorts of personal insecurities or "oh God, I'm going to lose my authoritative 5 minutes of Internet fame moment" thoughts play into the apoplectic horror fits that early-adopters have when newer fans attempt to discuss anything outside of what the 2ch cliques have determined to be the uber-version, but that's got to be a hard way for folks to live their lives. There needs to be less worrying, and more...I dunno, alcohol, I guess, for the sake of relaxing.

In regards to Haruhi, I don't think it's any less legitimate for folks to be discussing the DVD release and its specifics, especially since it's the most readily available version of the show at the moment. It's unfortunate that there can't be a better meeting of the two versions in terms of discussion, but I guess there's nothing to be done about the inherent lack of meeting of the minds on the issue.

[Draneor]

Has anyone been able to confirm the English subtitles? Right now, only Kadokawa's website seems to list them as a feature.

Thoughts play into the apoplectic horror fits that early-adopters have when newer fans attempt to discuss anything outside of what the 2ch cliques have determined to be the uber-version

And Nagi. You don't want to see Nagi cry, do you? ;_;

[something]

Well, the "for me" part is what was kind of lacking in your first post, and that was all I was really getting at.
When I first wrote the post I was actually being specifically mindful not to get into the "it's the only way!" discussion. I even rewrote a few sentences before submitting it with that in mind. Guess it still didn't sound right though. ::shrugs:: That wasn't even the point I was trying to discuss. :sd:

If anything, I was confused by your initial response because I thought I was mostly agreeing with you, i.e. that 2k6 broadcast order supporters who were upset that 2k9 wasn't non-linear were comparing apples to oranges and probably missing the point. That's why my second reply clarified that I wasn't talking about the DVDs.

Next section of your post was kinda ranty - which is fine obviously, I rant too - but I don't have any specific responses because I have no idea who it's aimed at or what you were trying to say, specifically. So to move on to the end:

In regards to Haruhi, I don't think it's any less legitimate for folks to be discussing the DVD release and its specifics
Didn't say it wasn't. It's just not of interest to me in this case, outside of things like "is it licensed?" and "when will it be out?" and "how much will it cost?" etc. When I discuss the episode content of 2k6, I'm always thinking by default in broadcast order. It's the same when I talk about 2k9, which of course isn't being released on DVD the same way it's airing either, for purely practical reasons.

It's unfortunate that there can't be a better meeting of the two versions in terms of discussion, but I guess there's nothing to be done about the inherent lack of meeting of the minds on the issue.
Eh, again, watching something week by week at its first airing and watching something a 1+ year later on a DVD release schedule are just completely different ways of experiencing something. Having experienced both extensively, I don't think the approaches can ever be equated, on a fundamental level. After all, much of the experience of a show happens before and after the episode itself ends.

Haruhi (both airings) is a really really extreme example of the difference, but it's not the only one. It applies to everything else I watch too, on some level. I can still have perfectly fun and fruitful discussion with a "home video only!" person (see the Aria the Natural, Nanoha 1st/A's and Clannad S1 GA discussions), but those work best when the initial week-by-week experience is simulated as much as possible, and there will nonetheless be many instances where the way I first reacted to an episode was inherently quite different from someone else coming at it in such different circumstances of time and medium and fandom environment.

[something]

Has anyone been able to confirm the English subtitles? Right now, only Kadokawa's website seems to list them as a feature.
Have there been cases where something is listed as having english subs and then turns out not to when it gets in people's hands? I just need to find out in enough time to cancel my order if it turns out it doesn't have them. :sd:

[kakugo]

I'm pretty sure that part of the 2k6 OP sequence is a central component in most WMDs.

Amen. Lucky Star's title card is the second generation in The Fight Against High Quality Compression.

Higher bitrates, different encoders, and more median filtering (ie: softening) could have helped, but there's simply a limit as to how good insanely complicated material can look on DVD. As much as I'm loathe to admit it, this is exactly the kind of thing that would benefit from an upscaled Blu-ray.

I'll get my wife the R1 of these eventually. Still, it's encouraging to see Bandai Visual including English subtitles on the R2 release.

[Draneor]

Still, it's encouraging to see Bandai Visual including English subtitles on the R2 release.

Did you mean Kadokawa?

[kakugo]

I did. :sd:

[Draneor]

So it appears that the DVD information for the rest of the Haruhi DVDs is out (http://www.syu-ta.com/blog/2009/07/31/010236.shtml) (also, this (http://up2.viploader.net/pic2/src/viploaderf166903.jpg).

Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 4.X 4,830 Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody 2008/08
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.142857 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/09
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.230769 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/10
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.285714 6,930 Endless Eight　2009/11
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.428571 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/12
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.571428 6,930 Endless Eight 2010/01
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.714285 6,930 Endless Eight　2010/02
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.999999 4,830 ????????????? 2010/03

Link to the second volume on CDJapan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6002). It seems the bonuses are random coasters this time. I wonder how accurate this list is for volumes beyond 5.142857 though (If true, it would mean there will be twelve episodes total^^U). I haven't yet found anyone who has posted all of them.

[DiGiKerot]

So it appears that the DVD information for the rest of the Haruhi DVDs is out (http://www.syu-ta.com/blog/2009/07/31/010236.shtml) (also, this (http://up2.viploader.net/pic2/src/viploaderf166903.jpg).

Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 4.X 4,830 Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody 2008/08
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.142857 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/09
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.230769 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/10
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.285714 6,930 Endless Eight　2009/11
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.428571 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/12
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.571428 6,930 Endless Eight 2010/01
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.714285 6,930 Endless Eight　2010/02
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.999999 4,830 ????????????? 2010/03

Link to the second volume on CDJapan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6002). It seems the bonuses are random coasters this time. I wonder how accurate this list is for volumes beyond 5.142857 though (If true, it would mean there will be twelve episodes total^^U). I haven't yet found anyone who has posted all of them.

I could be wrong, but from what I gather all that anyone has really been able to ascertain is the prices (therefore episode counts) and what the volumes have been numbered as. How many of these, precisely, are going to be Endless Eight still seems to be up to debate. However, if these volume numbers are correct, it means that the whole series has to comprise of events taking place before Lone Island Syndrome (which was R2 volume 5 of the initial release).

I could be wrong, though, but that site linked above does seem to be the only place actually putting episode names to the volumes, aside from one I found speculating that it's all going to be Endless Eight (the final volumes single episode being the one to finally end the loop).

[something]

I could be wrong, but from what I gather all that anyone has really been able to ascertain is the prices (therefore episode counts) and what the volumes have been numbered as. How many of these, precisely, are going to be Endless Eight still seems to be up to debate. However, if these volume numbers are correct, it means that the whole series has to comprise of events taking place before Lone Island Syndrome (which was R2 volume 5 of the initial release).
I'd be surprised if they were willing to reveal ahead of time how many episodes E8 really is, so I'll wait and see what happens as well. I do love E8, but I'll have to pick and choose if it's $70+... When I said I would buy, I was thinking they'd be the price of disc 1, not significantly more expensive. Though in retrospect I guess it's not surprising. This is getting to be much more than I can afford, however. Guess I'll be missing out on the LE versions since I can't make a decision right now or any time soon. Depends if the rest of E8 is as good as parts 1-5, or as not good as part 6. Kinda sucks to buy the ep with 5-6 just to get 5... $70+ for one episode? I... yeah. I'm rethinking this now. Especially since it's not like the subs on it (which... I assume is still confirmed for BLR at least right?) are all that great.

[Fencedude]

FTR, Endless Eight takes place after Lone Island Syndrome, not before.

[EmperorBrandon]

However, if these volume numbers are correct, it means that the whole series has to comprise of events taking place before Lone Island Syndrome (which was R2 volume 5 of the initial release).


You mean comprised of events before R2 volume 6, which would be Live Alive. That's what the numbers would indicate to me.

[Ingraman]

When I said I would buy, I was thinking they'd be the price of disc 1, not significantly more expensive. [...] $70+ for one episode? I... yeah. I'm rethinking this now.

Has it been confirmed that the upcoming Haruhi DVDs ony have one episode? The discs for the last Haruhi run were priced similarly (I don't recall the actual numbers), but the more expensive discs each had two episodes, rather than the single episode of the first and last DVDs. I'm presuming that that is again the case, so you probably are getting more for the greater amount of money.

If they are just single-episode discs, the ignore me. ^_^

[something]

When I said I would buy, I was thinking they'd be the price of disc 1, not significantly more expensive. [...] $70+ for one episode? I... yeah. I'm rethinking this now.Has it been confirmed that the upcoming Haruhi DVDs ony have one episode?
The part you [...]'d was actually directly relevant to the part you quoted afterward. :sd: I was specifically talking about just the E8 Part 5-6 disc there. It has two eps on it, indeed, but I only like one of them. That's what I was getting at. The rest have 2 as well, but still, $35+ per episode (plus S&H)? I don't think I can swing that. Maybe I'll just buy the disc with eps 3-4, since they were my 3rd and 1st favorite part of E8 so far, respectively. 5 was my 2nd favorite but again, it's there with the mediocre 6... what I consider the only mediocre episode of Haruhi ever made =(

Anyway, yeah... it's getting too rich for my blood. I could import a few dozen CDs for what Haruhi would cost. Or buy a new computer. Hmm.

I'll think about it. I want to buy at least parts of it, beyond just the first disc I have preordered already.

[Hayate Kurogane]

So it appears that the DVD information for the rest of the Haruhi DVDs is out (http://www.syu-ta.com/blog/2009/07/31/010236.shtml) (also, this (http://up2.viploader.net/pic2/src/viploaderf166903.jpg).

Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 4.X 4,830 Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody 2008/08
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.142857 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/09
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.230769 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/10
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.285714 6,930 Endless Eight　2009/11
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.428571 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/12
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.571428 6,930 Endless Eight 2010/01
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.714285 6,930 Endless Eight　2010/02
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.999999 4,830 ????????????? 2010/03

Link to the second volume on CDJapan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6002). It seems the bonuses are random coasters this time. I wonder how accurate this list is for volumes beyond 5.142857 though (If true, it would mean there will be twelve episodes total^^U). I haven't yet found anyone who has posted all of them.

Math-heads and trivia geeks will recognize the trailing numbers for the 5.xxxxxx volumes as the cyclical permutations of the six repeating digits for the fraction 1/7. For those interested in a bit of detail, the Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/142857_(number)) does as good a job as any of laying out the basic idea.

It's a clever and somewhat cruel numbering scheme, based on the premise of the ongoing Endless Eight saga. :P

However, the supposed 5.230769 volume's digits do not belong (and, based on some searching, don't seem to mean much of anything), and the digits for the fifth permutation, 857142, are missing. So, either someone's wrong, or someone's lazy. I guess we'll see what happens when the official solicitation for October's volume shows up.

[pluvia33]

So it appears that the DVD information for the rest of the Haruhi DVDs is out (http://www.syu-ta.com/blog/2009/07/31/010236.shtml) (also, this (http://up2.viploader.net/pic2/src/viploaderf166903.jpg).

Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 4.X 4,830 Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody 2008/08
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.142857 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/09
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.230769 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/10
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.285714 6,930 Endless Eight　2009/11
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.428571 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/12
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.571428 6,930 Endless Eight 2010/01
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.714285 6,930 Endless Eight　2010/02
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.999999 4,830 ????????????? 2010/03

Link to the second volume on CDJapan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6002). It seems the bonuses are random coasters this time. I wonder how accurate this list is for volumes beyond 5.142857 though (If true, it would mean there will be twelve episodes total^^U). I haven't yet found anyone who has posted all of them.

It looks to me like it's just some random dude's prediction and doesn't really hold any weight whatsoever (as we know with past predictions about this series). I really don't think they'll do 12 episodes of Endless Eight and just throw in a single episode version of Sigh.

[DiGiKerot]

However, if these volume numbers are correct, it means that the whole series has to comprise of events taking place before Lone Island Syndrome (which was R2 volume 5 of the initial release).


You mean comprised of events before R2 volume 6, which would be Live Alive. That's what the numbers would indicate to me.

D'oh. That was a pretty silly mistake to make :sweat:

[EmperorBrandon]

Given how stretched out Endless Eight has been, my recent guess has been the renewed airing will end with Someday in the Rain. The way Kadokawa has done things (not ever calling it a "second season" or even acknowledging that there were going to be new episodes beforehand) seem to point to just being intended as an update to the original series, so that makes the most sense to me.

[Bibulb]

SIt seems the bonuses are random coasters this time.

Um, wow. Irony.

[Macron one]

Amazon.co.jp's listing of the volume 2 pre-order is already getting a lot of angry preemptive reviews by the looks of things ( http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002JPC9CG/ ).

[james_039]

Selling "Endless Eight" as 2-episode volumes for the full regular price as though each disc had completely new episodes is an extremely *BAD* decision. As different as this was on TV, and as interesting as it has been, the reality here seems clear that even fanatical otaku will not pay ~$200 for the same episode animated in 8 or so different ways. I hope Kadokawa, or Kyoani or *whomever* was responsible for this decision learns from it.

They should have released a 2-disc box containing (all) of Endless Eight and charged maybe ￥3000 or possibly ￥4000 (or whatever is a normal price for a 1-episode disc). This would have made sense.

[something]

pay ~$200
Assuming it really is 12 eps/6 discs (which I have no reason to believe is incorrect at this point), more like ~$370, or ~$440 for the LEs. =P That would be why I'm going to have to be really picky about which volumes I buy. :sd:

[Buster Darkwings]

Amazon.co.jp's listing of the volume 2 pre-order is already getting a lot of angry preemptive reviews by the looks of things ( http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002JPC9CG/ ).

Good thing that Amazon.co.jp hasn't yet implemented its policy change of not allowing reviews before a product is released.

[Thanatos]

Selling "Endless Eight" as 2-episode volumes for the full regular price as though each disc had completely new episodes is an extremely *BAD* decision. As different as this was on TV, and as interesting as it has been, the reality here seems clear that even fanatical otaku will not pay ~$200 for the same episode animated in 8 or so different ways. I hope Kadokawa, or Kyoani or *whomever* was responsible for this decision learns from it.

They should have released a 2-disc box containing (all) of Endless Eight and charged maybe ￥3000 or possibly ￥4000 (or whatever is a normal price for a 1-episode disc). This would have made sense.

Actually this is a golden decision. The Endless Eight DVDs are going to be a proof of otakudom and bragging for the Japanese Haruhi worshippers. "I'm a TRUE Haruhi fan because I preordered every volume of the same episodes! Teehee" -_-

[The Great Bear]

Selling "Endless Eight" as 2-episode volumes for the full regular price as though each disc had completely new episodes is an extremely *BAD* decision. As different as this was on TV, and as interesting as it has been, the reality here seems clear that even fanatical otaku will not pay ~$200 for the same episode animated in 8 or so different ways. I hope Kadokawa, or Kyoani or *whomever* was responsible for this decision learns from it.

Actually this is a golden decision. The Endless Eight DVDs are going to be a proof of otakudom and bragging for the Japanese Haruhi worshippers. "I'm a TRUE Haruhi fan because I preordered every volume of the same episodes! Teehee" -_-

Sure, and all 5 of them can gather and have a beer in the cheapest bar in Tokyo, since they'll have spent all of their money on Endless 8 :P

[Draneor]

Sure, and all 5 of them can gather and have a beer in the cheapest bar in Tokyo, since they'll have spent all of their money on Endless 8 :P

I think you underestimate otaku and the power of LE items.^^ While I have no doubt it won't sell in the 40,000s like the first season, I'd expect it to be at least around 5,000, which would still be above average. Thankfully, the numbers will be public so we'll know soon how well Bamboo Rhapsody sold and the drop-off for Endless Eight one.

[something]

So it appears that the DVD information for the rest of the Haruhi DVDs is out (http://www.syu-ta.com/blog/2009/07/31/010236.shtml) (also, this (http://up2.viploader.net/pic2/src/viploaderf166903.jpg).

Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 4.X 4,830 Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody 2008/08
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.142857 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/09
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.230769 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/10
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.285714 6,930 Endless Eight　2009/11
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.428571 6,930 Endless Eight 2009/12
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.571428 6,930 Endless Eight 2010/01
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.714285 6,930 Endless Eight　2010/02
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 5.999999 4,830 ????????????? 2010/03

Link to the second volume on CDJapan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6002). It seems the bonuses are random coasters this time. I wonder how accurate this list is for volumes beyond 5.142857 though (If true, it would mean there will be twelve episodes total^^U). I haven't yet found anyone who has posted all of them.
Relevant, though could certainly be considered spoilers, not that anyone here doesn't know already though: Well, the above is clearly off a bit.

Anyway, I just ordered the LE of 5.142857 from CDJ. Oh boy oh boy, after coupon only $70! :sd: Maybe it would have been cheaper from HMV but higher S&H at HMV plus all the points and coupons I'm getting at CDJ really evens it out. Plus I can combine later orders for other things into this one at some point, lowering the per-item S&H. I didn't really want to have this shipped SAL but EMS would have been like 1800 yen for S&H as opposed to 700 yen. Way too much of a difference.

So uh, I know I keep bringing it up but have we ever gotten anything else in the way of confirmation about there being English subs on these? At this point I guess I don't care and I'll just be importing them all regardless, because I'm a whore for Haruhi. But it'd still leave me with a bit more justification when myself starts yelling at myself about how much I'm spending.

[Draneor]

So uh, I know I keep bringing it up but have we ever gotten anything else in the way of confirmation about there being English subs on these?

Other than the KyoAni shop listing, not that I know of.

But it'd still leave me with a bit more justification when myself starts yelling at myself about how much I'm spending.

I believe it was Madarame who said don't look at the price (paraphrased).

[something]

I believe it was Madarame who said don't look at the price (paraphrased).
I'm trying not to, though when I compare the $550 or so this will cost all told to how much that buys me in R1 (14 eps vs approx 280 [839 eps at $1.6k divided by ~3] for the same sum so far in 2009) it's hard not to. :sd: So yeah, having subs would be a huge plus.

Oh well, it's not just any 14 episodes. It's Haruhi.

[something]

As mentioned on the unofficial IRC channel, the new Haruhi DVDs will have English subtitles. (http://kyotoanimation.shop-pro.jp/?pid=14691827)
So, I was going to contact CDJapan about whether the Haruhi DVDs really did have subtitles, as Draneor suggested in another thread. And I was going to link them to the page listed here when I did it.

But it appears to be gone. I just get a message saying 該当する商品がありません ("there is no corresponding item" or something like that). In fact, going to the Haruhi DVD section at all yields only one hit: http://kyotoanimation.shop-pro.jp/?mode=cate&cbid=11484&csid=1

Did the stuff move to a different part of the site I can't find?

Edit: actually, looks like almost all their DVDs are gone right now.

[Draneor]

Go here (http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/haruhi/goods/goods_dvd2009.html). Search for "英語字幕."

Edit: actually, looks like almost all their DVDs are gone right now.

The KyoAni shop tends to not have DVDs in stock for very long.

[something]

Go here (http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/haruhi/goods/goods_dvd2009.html). Search for "英語字幕."

Edit: actually, looks like almost all their DVDs are gone right now.

The KyoAni shop tends to not have DVDs in stock for very long.

Ah yeah, I was just about to edit again to say I found it on the Haruhi site too - http://www.haruhi.tv/fanclub/goods_dvd_sasanoha.html. Thanks.

[Roujin0308]

As mentioned on the unofficial IRC channel, the new Haruhi DVDs will have English subtitles. (http://kyotoanimation.shop-pro.jp/?pid=14691827)
So, I was going to contact CDJapan about whether the Haruhi DVDs really did have subtitles, as Draneor suggested in another thread. And I was going to link them to the page listed here when I did it.

CD Japan now has the "English subtitles" button on their listings for the new Haruhi dvds.

One - 4 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6001)
Two - 5.142857 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6002)
Three - 5.285714 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6003)
Four - 5.230769 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6004)
Five - 5.428571 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6005)
Six - 5.571428 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6006)
Seven - 5.714285 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6007)
Eight - 5.999999 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KABA-6008)

[something]

CD Japan now has the "English subtitles" button on their listings for the new Haruhi dvds.
Huh, when did they list all the other volumes? They weren't there just a few days ago.

I emailed them about the subtitles two days ago, and hadn't gotten a reply yet. I guess this is my reply! I figure it's at least trustworthy for the first volume, since they have it on hand. Good stuff.

I should order Vols. 3-8 when I get home, to make sure I get the LEs. Not that I forsee needing to be in much of a rush for Vols. 3-5, but I want to be certain. :sd:

[Draneor]

I should order Vols. 3-8 when I get home, to make sure I get the LEs.

Changed your mind about buying all of E8?

[something]

I should order Vols. 3-8 when I get home, to make sure I get the LEs.Changed your mind about buying all of E8?
I kept wavering on that, but in the end I decided to go for it, given that it ended up being a manageable length, and that I liked it so much. Only Part 6 was disappointing, and I still want Part 5 which will be on the same disc. Since they're all listed as having subs now (about as much confirmation as I can get until I have them all in my hands) that removes the last hurdle.

Sort of glad K-ON! doesn't have subs or I'd seriously consider getting that too. =P Then again it's not like subtitles made by the Japanese companies will be any better than the R1 subs I get annoyed by (worse, if anything) so I'm not sure why I give their presence any weight.

I think it's a purely mental thing. :sd: It makes it *seem* more reasonable, even if it doesn't change anything. =P

[Draneor]

Sort of glad K-ON! doesn't have subs or I'd seriously consider getting that too. =P Then again it's not like subtitles made by the Japanese companies will be any better than the R1 subs I get annoyed by (worse, if anything) so I'm not sure why I give their presence any weight.

I think it's a purely mental thing. :sd: It makes it *seem* more reasonable, even if it doesn't change anything. =P[

They'd be nice for anime that aren't going to be picked up. And since they're creating them anyway for shows that air on CR... Then again, from my perspective, the only benefit of R1 DVDs is their price and subtitles. Only than Nozomi, which I still believe gives a premium value for the cost.

I'd like to think someone would license K-On! though.

[Oniko]

Well, I'm glad I waited on getting this series. Proware in R3 land has licensed (http://www.prowaremedia.com.tw/shop/product_info.php?cPath=387&products_id=4787) it and will be releasing the first volume with a box. They will also be including postcards with their release.

[something]

Well, I'm glad I waited on getting this series. Proware in R3 land has licensed (http://www.prowaremedia.com.tw/shop/product_info.php?cPath=387&products_id=4787) it and will be releasing the first volume with a box. They will also be including postcards with their release.
Figured they would, but I'll stick with the R2 anyway. Heck maybe I'll pick up the R3 vol with the box as well. I also don't see anything about English subs on the Proware listing unless google translate is failing me.

[Oniko]

Figured they would, but I'll stick with the R2 anyway. Heck maybe I'll pick up the R3 vol with the box as well. I also don't see anything about English subs on the Proware listing unless google translate is failing me.

Yeah, I wish it had the English subtitles, but at the moment I can live without. I've gotta save what I can when I'm gonna be purchasing a house next month. I am glad that the R3 will have an art box unlike the R2.

[something]

Yeah, I wish it had the English subtitles, but at the moment I can live without. I've gotta save what I can when I'm gonna be purchasing a house next month. I am glad that the R3 will have an art box unlike the R2.
The difference in price certainly is tempting. I mean, we're talking like literally a third, a quarter, maybe less of the price, once you factor in S&H. I expected it to get an R3 license, though I didn't expect it to be so soon... Ah I shouldn't waver though. I'll stick with my decision to get the R2s. It's not like I plan on importing any other full R2 series any time soon.

[Draneor]

I am glad that the R3 will have an art box unlike the R2.

Doesn't volume two come with a box?

[Buster Darkwings]

CD Japan now has the "English subtitles" button on their listings for the new Haruhi dvds.
Huh, when did they list all the other volumes? They weren't there just a few days ago.

I emailed them about the subtitles two days ago, and hadn't gotten a reply yet. I guess this is my reply! I figure it's at least trustworthy for the first volume, since they have it on hand. Good stuff.

I should order Vols. 3-8 when I get home, to make sure I get the LEs. Not that I forsee needing to be in much of a rush for Vols. 3-5, but I want to be certain. :sd:

I can confirm that subtitles are indeed listed on the back cover, although I haven't bought the disc or watched it.

[something]

Doesn't volume two come with a box?
Of the R2? CDJ doesn't list one. But I'm looking at a google translation of the more detailed Amazon listing and... maybe? I see a couple things that could refer to one:

"special digipak (tray slides) "
"Anime illustrators draw down special ambition西屋DVD-BOX (all four volumes housed)"
"special DVD-BOX with another pattern."

I guess two boxes, four discs each...? That would certainly be nice, seeing as how I was planning on getting these assuming there was no box. If there really is a box I'd love to see art ASAP.

[Oniko]

Doesn't volume two come with a box?
"special digipak (tray slides) "
"Anime illustrators draw down special ambition西屋DVD-BOX (all four volumes housed)"
"special DVD-BOX with another pattern."

I guess two boxes, four discs each...? That would certainly be nice, seeing as how I was planning on getting these assuming there was no box. If there really is a box I'd love to see art ASAP.

Ah, I had not looked at the solicitations for the later volumes. I forgot sometimes it is a later volume that comes with a box.

[DiGiKerot]

My volume 1 (or 4) LE turned up today. I've not had a chance to watch it yet, but I've not done particularly well on the random extras - I just got the one, standard coaster (Number 4 - Haruhi's Coaster). So, alas, no super secret extra coaster or Film bookmark for me.

I'm curious to see how you other's fair on this one.

[something]

My volume 1 (or 4) LE turned up today. I've not had a chance to watch it yet, but I've not done particularly well on the random extras - I just got the one, standard coaster (Number 4 - Haruhi's Coaster). So, alas, no super secret extra coaster or Film bookmark for me.
I'm curious to see how you other's fair on this one.
Weren't there supposed to be other things in the LE too? Charging more for the LE and then just not including some of the stuff is pretty lame, although I can't complain if I don't get it, seeing as how I don't really care about coasters or bookmarks. I guess it's just the principle =P

Mine shipped yesterday and was sent via airmail, so we'll see how long it takes. I'd always used SAL before.

[DiGiKerot]

Weren't there supposed to be other things in the LE too? Charging more for the LE and then just not including some of the stuff is pretty lame, although I can't complain if I don't get it, seeing as how I don't really care about coasters or bookmarks. I guess it's just the principle =P


There's some postcards and a DVD with some extra content on as well, both of which everyone will be getting :sweat:

The random extras I was prepared for, since I collected the first series R2 as well, but my luck was a bit better with that one.

Coincidently, they've continued the pattern of hiding an image directory on the DVD, modelled after Kyon's hidden Mikuru image directory. That said, they went through all the character specific ones with the original release, so this one is a little more random - and, annoyingly, all in HD resolution. Kind of rubs it in that the show isn't getting a BR release.

I've got around to watching the episode now. No changes from the broadcast version from what I can gather. The subtitles are mostly pretty good - there was one typo I clocked ("Can we come it?" rather than "Can we come in?"), a couple of lines which read a touch awkwardly, and one exchange which doesn't quite follow correctly (Kyon - "What's with the greeting and the twig?", Haruhi - "The woods behind the school"), but that's pretty much all what was wrong with it. The rest reads just fine.

[something]

I've got around to watching the episode now. No changes from the broadcast version from what I can gather. The subtitles are mostly pretty good - there was one typo I clocked ("Can we come it?" rather than "Can we come in?"), a couple of lines which read a touch awkwardly, and one exchange which doesn't quite follow correctly (Kyon - "What's with the greeting and the twig?", Haruhi - "The woods behind the school"), but that's pretty much all what was wrong with it. The rest reads just fine.
Ah, guess you didn't watch their stream on YouTube? Was wondering if you could compare the two to see if the DVD one was any different. I did watch that one to get a taste of their subs, but then I did that quite some time ago so I don't know how well I'd be able to compare. It was readable, but felt more awkward than it should have been. If only there were an easy way to stick different subtitles on a DVD, but I don't feel like futzing around with retiming and all that. Especially if there are any new scenes like with the 2k6 episodes.

[DiGiKerot]

Ah, guess you didn't watch their stream on YouTube? Was wondering if you could compare the two to see if the DVD one was any different. I did watch that one to get a taste of their subs, but then I did that quite some time ago so I don't know how well I'd be able to compare. It was readable, but felt more awkward than it should have been. If only there were an easy way to stick different subtitles on a DVD, but I don't feel like futzing around with retiming and all that. Especially if there are any new scenes like with the 2k6 episodes.

Nah, I didn't bother watching the Youtube stream, so unfortunately I can't do the comparison thing. I'd imagine it's probably the same script, though.

[Roujin0308]

My volume 1 (or 4) LE turned up today. I've not had a chance to watch it yet, but I've not done particularly well on the random extras - I just got the one, standard coaster (Number 4 - Haruhi's Coaster). So, alas, no super secret extra coaster or Film bookmark for me.

I'm curious to see how you other's fair on this one.

Got my copy in today; ordered from HMV on Aug. 16. Coaster is #002 - a group shot of the brigade members: red-colored line art, side/profile shot of the group as they all look/face off to the left.

No special/deluxe extras for me either.

[something]

My volume 1 (or 4) LE turned up today. I've not had a chance to watch it yet, but I've not done particularly well on the random extras - I just got the one, standard coaster (Number 4 - Haruhi's Coaster). So, alas, no super secret extra coaster or Film bookmark for me.
I'm curious to see how you other's fair on this one.
Didn't fare any better. Just #1 (Haruhi and Mikuru) and nothing else.

But the package got here in 5 days via airmail! That's fantastic, so hah, who needs EMS? This cost way less and wasn't much more expensive than SAL which takes over a month.

Also, maybe this isn't strange to R2 buyers but I find the DVD case used absolutely bizarre. Kinda cool, but I've never seen anything remotely like it. Flips up from the top and has you slide the upper DVD tray down to reveal the lower? How odd.

[DiGiKerot]

Also, maybe this isn't strange to R2 buyers but I find the DVD case used absolutely bizarre. Kinda cool, but I've never seen anything remotely like it. Flips up from the top and has you slide the upper DVD tray down to reveal the lower? How odd.

Nah, I found the DVD case absolutley bizarre as well :sweat:

[something]

[quote=something;1642944]Nah, I found the DVD case absolutley bizarre as well :sweat:
I also thought it odd that the actual episode disc is the one on the bottom. I stuck the top one in and was confused for a few moments when I couldn't find the episode to play. :sd:

[relentlessflame]

Nah, I found the DVD case absolutley bizarre as well :sweat:
I also thought it odd that the actual episode disc is the one on the bottom. I stuck the top one in and was confused for a few moments when I couldn't find the episode to play. :sd:Yes, this was a bit counter-intuitive to me too. For some reason I also expected the feature to be on top with the extras on the bottom, and actually that was they way they did it three years ago (though the case was slightly different (http://www.relentlessness.com/anime/haruhi/suzumiya_haruhi_no_yuuutsu_dvd0_packaging.jpg) that time).

In any case, though, I would also agree -- this is the only R2 anime I own that has a case anything like this one. Like everything else about this franchise, it's very unconventional.

[Draneor]

The first volume of E8 sold ~14,104 copies, it seems. So all around, not bad. Certainly, not the disaster some people were expecting.

[EmperorBrandon]

The first volume of E8 sold ~14,104 copies, it seems. So all around, not bad. Certainly, not the disaster some people were expecting.

Well, isn't it the middle volumes of E8 people are expecting to do badly?

[something]

The first volume of E8 sold ~14,104 copies, it seems. So all around, not bad. Certainly, not the disaster some people were expecting.Well, isn't it the middle volumes of E8 people are expecting to do badly?
People were expecting the whole thing to be terrible, but even given the inevitable further drop for the middle bolumes that's damn good for what is essentially a season of gravy for Kadokawa (since now they can squeeze a full third season out of the franchise).

I'm quite happy to be one of those 14k. I'm guessing it'll arrive in about a week.

[traviskeshav]

The first volume of E8 sold ~14,104 copies, it seems. So all around, not bad. Certainly, not the disaster some people were expecting.Well, isn't it the middle volumes of E8 people are expecting to do badly?
People were expecting the whole thing to be terrible, but even given the inevitable further drop for the middle bolumes that's damn good for what is essentially a season of gravy for Kadokawa (since now they can squeeze a full third season out of the franchise).

I'm quite happy to be one of those 14k. I'm guessing it'll arrive in about a week.

It includes a nice box as well. I was impressed. Well, sort of.

[Draneor]

It includes a nice box as well.

Have any pictures? ;)

[something]

It includes a nice box as well.
Yes! I was hoping that that was correct.

And I would be delighted to see pictures as well.

[Draneor]

I found some pictures on this blog (http://akiba.kakaku.com/hobby/0909/24/224500.php#). And here is a side angle (http://edoi.at.webry.info/200909/article_48.html). Personally, it's not a must have for me.

[something]

I found some pictures on this blog (http://akiba.kakaku.com/hobby/0909/24/224500.php#). And here is a side angle (http://edoi.at.webry.info/200909/article_48.html). Personally, it's not a must have for me.
So it's a box... just for Endless Eight! Ahahahaha. Now that is hilarious.

I like it. Nice wrap-around fireworks and yukata fun.

[Draneor]

So it's a box... just for Endless Eight! Ahahahaha. Now that is hilarious.

The box really makes me feel sorry for Yuki, given where they placed her.

[something]

The box really makes me feel sorry for Yuki, given where they placed her.
Heh, seems appropriate though. I think my only real issue with the box is that because of the way the image is placed, I can't easily display one side and get all of Haruhi. Maybe if I put it at a bit of an angle...

[something]

Got this in today, sooner than expected.

The box is nice, but as I feared it's hard to get a good angle on it for Haruhi because of where she's placed. I also noticed the postcard book, which makes me wonder why the postcards themselves aren't perforated or anything. I had to get out the ruler and knife and separate them. :sd: The Itou Noiji DVD covers are especially gorgeous when seen in hand. Yuki <3

No special stuff this volume, if the lottery was even supposed to continue to later vols. Just coaster #9.

Haven't watched it yet, but I assume the subs are going to be at the same level as Vol. 1.

[RyGuySays]

The box is nice, but as I feared it's hard to get a good angle on it for Haruhi because of where she's placed.

Hah guess your gonna have to get 2 more and just show off the whole picture lol :b

[Shiroi Hane]

Where's Fabio when you need some triple box shots?

[Roujin0308]

No special stuff this volume, if the lottery was even supposed to continue to later vols. Just coaster #9.

Got coaster #8 and a film strip - 5 frames of the brigade holding their frog costumes.

[Shiroi Hane]

Got coaster #8 and a film strip - 5 frames of the brigade holding their frog costumes.
Feel free to gloat - I got nothing either.
Multiple expensive DVDs with almost identical content repeated over and over and a extras lottery - and still people buy it. We may complain about Kadokawa but darn do they keep suckering us anyway.

[relentlessflame]

Got coaster #8 and a film strip - 5 frames of the brigade holding their frog costumes.
Yeah, this time I got a film strip as well (5 frames of the cast at the restaurant), and coaster #7. I never had a lottery extra for the first volume, though, so I guess it all works out somehow.

[Draneor]

My copy of Bamboo Rhapsody came today. Oddly enough, I got first press (coaster #2), even though I ordered it two months after it was released.

[traviskeshav]

Hm. I got Endless Eight Part 2 today... no film strip. Some small plastic folder-type thing was included, although I assume that's standard.

I do like the screenshots included in the folder on the DVD itself, though. Nice for computer wallpaper.

[Shiroi Hane]

I haven't ordered anything past the first ∞8 DVD due to no longer having a job (that and I just ordered the Kiddy Grade bluray set).

[Draneor]

The second DVD of Endless eight sold ~12,708 copies in its opening week (http://www.cartoonleap.com/2009/11/03/suzumiya-haruhis-endless-eight-selling-like-hotcakes/). So there was a good drop (from ~18,000), but it's still well above 10,000.

[something]

The second DVD of Endless eight sold ~12,708 copies in its opening week (http://www.cartoonleap.com/2009/11/03/suzumiya-haruhis-endless-eight-selling-like-hotcakes/). So there was a good drop (from ~18,000), but it's still well above 10,000.
You reported earlier that E8 part 1 sold ~14k in its first week, so the first week comparative dropoff is closer to about 1.5k, which isn't bad at all.

[Draneor]

You reported earlier that E8 part 1 sold ~14k in its first week, so the first week comparative dropoff is closer to about 1.5k, which isn't bad at all.

Ah right. The 18,000 is cumulative sales.

[Fencedude]

The second DVD of Endless eight sold ~12,708 copies in its opening week (http://www.cartoonleap.com/2009/11/03/suzumiya-haruhis-endless-eight-selling-like-hotcakes/). So there was a good drop (from ~18,000), but it's still well above 10,000.
You reported earlier that E8 part 1 sold ~14k in its first week, so the first week comparative dropoff is closer to about 1.5k, which isn't bad at all.

But..but...but...I thought E8 was supposed to kill the franchise!

Heh

[stfram]

But..but...but...I thought E8 was supposed to kill the franchise!


The Japanese could market ice to Eskimos, if they were Otaku and the ice had a first-press bonus.

[Draneor]

The Japanese could market ice to Eskimos, if they were Otaku and the ice had a first-press bonus.

And you'd still have a bunch of non-Japanese people nicking the ice and than complaining that it wasn't made from an artesian aquifer. ;)

[something]

The Japanese could market ice to Eskimos, if they were Otaku and the ice had a first-press bonus.
Which is of course why the average show sells only ~2k copies a disc - when the volumes even chart at all - right?

Eventually you and others are just going to have to come to terms with the fact that not everyone hates E8 like you do, and get over it.

[stfram]

Eventually you and others are just going to have to come to terms with the fact that not everyone hates E8 like you do, and get over it.

In all seriousness it's because of the Japanese Otaku collector's mentality, not necessarily because they liked E8.

They'll collect just about everything related to the show that they "support", no matter how foolish it may seem to non-or-disenchanted fans.

And Haruhi kicked major Otaku ass in sales.

Hell, I collect all the Evangelion soundtracks, and I'll be getting the upcoming "Neon Genesis EVANGELION Shin Suisogaku Ban" releases, even though it's likely I'll never listen to them enough to make the investment "worthwhile" in the grand scheme of things.

I suspected that E8 would likely sell better than expected merely because of this; the 1.5k drop are all the folks that smashed their Haruhi figures and sent angry letters to KyoAni and Kadokawa during the E8 run.

[something]

In all seriousness it's because of the Japanese Otaku collector's mentality, not necessarily because they liked E8.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.

[Draneor]

[T]he 1.5k drop are all the folks that smashed their Haruhi figures and sent angry letters to KyoAni and Kadokawa during the E8 run.

No, it's really just the normal drop of sales between volumes. K-On! DVD sales, for example, went from 10,847 to 7,903 between volumes one and two (BD sales not factored in). And it wasn't because people were tearing up their copies of the manga in disgust due to their unhappiness about Mio's rice bowl. :p

[Suwako Moriya]

No, it's really just the normal drop of sales between volumes

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I take it most of the people involved in the drop-off are going to likely be blind buyers as opposed to ones who already watched the show?

The reason I say that is simple. I can't imagine a person watching through say an entire cour of a series and then deciding to only buy one volume. More likely they'd buy all the volumes or not buy any of them.

Then again, I could be wrong. Maybe some people are like "I hated the rest of the show, but since I loved the first two episodes..." Also, I suppose it's possible a person may decide they can only afford part of a series.

[something]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I take it most of the people involved in the drop-off are going to likely be blind buyers as opposed to ones who already watched the show?
The reason I say that is simple. I can't imagine a person watching through say an entire cour of a series and then deciding to only buy one volume. More likely they'd buy all the volumes or not buy any of them.
Then again, I could be wrong. Maybe some people are like "I hated the rest of the show, but since I loved the first two episodes..." Also, I suppose it's possible a person may decide they can only afford part of a series.
I've always been curious too, but I have a hard time believing there's a significant blind buy audience for these. In general, I'd put the drop to people maybe just wanting the goodies in the first volume or two...? Maybe they just want to own at least some of it, but can't afford it all? Sometimes if the first volume is substantially cheaper, that could explain it too. Vol. 1 of Nana sold 63,000 copies... but the show then dropped to 10k, 8k, 6k, 5k, 3k, eventually under 2k for later volumes. I think Vol. 1 was priced super cheap or something.

Or perhaps later volumes sell more gradually, over a longer period of time. Thus later sales are not recorded because the weekly total isn't enough to chart. A show will always have sold more (not much, but more) than the numbers indicate, simply because sales aren't accounted for forever. Or after the first few weeks. ::shrugs::

[Draneor]

The reason I say that is simple. I can't imagine a person watching through say an entire cour of a series and then deciding to only buy one volume. More likely they'd buy all the volumes or not buy any of them.

I don't think there are too many people that blind buy R2s. Especially in Japan, where you can rent them. Well, DVD-only episodes do cause a significantly jump in sales as do certain bonus goods.

I would think there would be many reasons for the drop off, many the same as in R1 (also, the ones you mentioned). Perhaps six months later some buyers have moved on to another show. Perhaps they can't afford to buy the latter volumes now. Perhaps they intend to get it later. Perhaps the release was crap. In any case, after a certain point, sales level off. I'm not aware specifically of why it happens, but it does occur.

On a personal note, I've dropped R2 DVDs mid-way before (Lucky☆Star), and bought select volumes of others (Bakemonogatari/Haruhi II).

[relentlessflame]

I don't think there are too many people that blind buy R2s. Especially in Japan, where you can rent them. Well, DVD-only episodes do cause a significantly jump in sales as do certain bonus goods.

I would think there would be many reasons for the drop off, many the same as in R1 (also, the ones you mentioned). Perhaps six months later some buyers have moved on to another show. Perhaps they can't afford to buy the latter volumes now. Perhaps they intend to get it later. Perhaps the release was crap. In any case, after a certain point, sales level off. I'm not aware specifically of why it happens, but it does occur.Yeah, I would guess that one of the main reasons for this is probably being less than thrilled with the actual release itself and deciding not to continue collecting it. There's a sizable "second-hand" market as well, so they may "sell back" their LEs in order to get some of their money back. This is all because a lot of the local stores do things based on pre-orders, so you have people pre-ordering (to not miss the LE/Firstpress) without necessarily knowing for sure whether they'll want to collect the whole thing. And with rental being an accessible option (and space generally being at a premium), it means that the need to own things is not as high.

I wouldn't necessarily dismiss the possibility of blind-buying though. If you don't live in the Tokyo region and/or don't have satellite, a lot of shows are simply not available for you. I guess we tend to assume that all anime collectors are Internet-connected and download most of their anime the way many of us do (since our primary connection to anime is via the Internet), but that's not necessarily the case. You may very well have some people who buy based on recommendation and what they've read in magazines, or who were just fans of the original work, and then change their mind about collecting as they go along (and maybe decide to just rent instead). And again, even though renting is an option for those on the fence, if you're contemplating a purchase you're better of pre-ordering in order to not miss the chance of getting the firstpress/LE. Anyway, it would be interesting to know how much this market segment may contain; it may not be huge, but I suspect it's larger than we might think. It's like how most Americans actually watch American TV shows on TV, and if they miss it they miss it; this despite there being a ton of technological options to see it in other ways. It's different if it's domestic TV, and in Japan this is just domestic (specialty) TV.

[stfram]

In all seriousness it's because of the Japanese Otaku collector's mentality, not necessarily because they liked E8.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.

Like a baby. :)

[something]

Like a baby. :)
Then perhaps you'd be better served going back to bed instead of jumping in this thread and making excuses about why it's selling more than you'd like it to. There are few arguments more tiresome than the one you've been using here - the blunt dismissal of interest in something you don't like as being somehow insincere on the part of those engaged in/watching/buying it.

[stfram]

Like a baby. :)
Then perhaps you'd be better served going back to bed instead of jumping in this thread and making excuses about why it's selling more than you'd like it to.


You're the one that's all hostile here.

All the other responses have been reasonable and measured, and that's added to my knowledge of the Japanese DVD market, such that it is.

Am I disappointed? Sure. Surprised? Not at all. On the other hand, Haruhi DVD 01 from the first season sold 90k units in Japan in a two month period. Will E8 move those numbers? If it doesn't, is E8 to blame, or the Japanese economy?

It'll be interesting to see what mad experiment they have in mind for the movie...

Edit: Haruhi S1 numbers for the first two releases here:
http://www.animenewsservice.com/archives/septx.htm

[Betenoire]

Will E8 move those numbers? If it doesn't, is E8 to blame, or the Japanese economy?

Or the original author, who keeps stringing the fans in Japan along? Perhaps the Japanese tendency to often grow tired of a product over time-didn't the latest dance game sell considerably fewer copies than some similar titles in the past? It's possible there are a plethora of variables that will factor in.

[something]

You're the one that's all hostile here.
All the other responses have been reasonable and measured, and that's added to my knowledge of the Japanese DVD market, such that it is.
Please, you're in for rough times on the internet if you consider this hostile. I'm just tired of your E8 trolling (one would think you'd move on eventually), and how your arguments get sillier each time. I'm not the only one who feels that way. I don't care if you don't like it, but spare us the nonsense about how people don't really like it, it must all just be dumb otaku sheep impulse. That's just blatantly insulting.

Edit: Haruhi S1 numbers for the first two releases here:
http://www.animenewsservice.com/archives/septx.htm
Uh, don't know where they got their numbers from but Haruhi 2k6 Vol. 1 sold around 40-some thousand. Not 90k. It averaged about 41k over all volumes. I don't think any volume of TV anime has ever sold 90k, not even Seed Destiny Vol. 1 (around 80k).

[something]

Or the original author, who keeps stringing the fans in Japan along? Perhaps the Japanese tendency to often grow tired of a product over time-didn't the latest dance game sell considerably fewer copies than some similar titles in the past? It's possible there are a plethora of variables that will factor in.
Let's not forget that BDs vastly outsell DVDs for many anime in Japan as well. I wonder how many people held off because Haruhi only came out on DVD? Certainly not 20000, but there's a reason why big sellers like Bake and K-ON! have BD sales 2-4 times the DVD sales. Kadokawa will definitely milk it with a BD release later, although I'll have to pass. $600 is enough for me.

[stfram]

Will E8 move those numbers? If it doesn't, is E8 to blame, or the Japanese economy?

Or the original author, who keeps stringing the fans in Japan along? Perhaps the Japanese tendency to often grow tired of a product over time-didn't the latest dance game sell considerably fewer copies than some similar titles in the past? It's possible there are a plethora of variables that will factor in.

True.

Forgot the BD factor as well.

[Fencedude]

You're the one that's all hostile here.

And you're the one who just can't get over the fact that people liked Endless Eight.

Edit: oh yeah, if you want some real amusement head over to Sankaku, they're EXTREMELY butthurt over this. Its pretty hilarious seeing them try to justify how E8 is a failure when it sold 12,000 copies anyway.

[Betenoire]

Edit: oh yeah, if you want some real amusement head over to Sankaku, they're EXTREMELY butthurt over this. Its pretty hilarious seeing them try to justify how E8 is a failure when it sold 12,000 copies anyway.

I caught a bit of their reaction the week the vol hit. I thought it was hilarious. I haven't seen the attempts at justification yet.

[stfram]

And you're the one who just can't get over the fact that people liked Endless Eight.


Regardless, here's hoping they don't pull the same shit again.

Not holding my breath, though.


Edit: oh yeah, if you want some real amusement head over to Sankaku, they're EXTREMELY butthurt over this. Its pretty hilarious seeing them try to justify how E8 is a failure when it sold 12,000 copies anyway.

*reads comments*

Amusing comments are amusing.

What would really be interesting is a poll..IN JAPAN, asking buyers of E8 if they got it to complete a collection, or if they genuinely liked E8 and want to see Kadokawa do something unique like this again.

Perhaps the sales numbers will motivate a poll in that regard once the last E8 volume is complete. It would definitely be interesting to see the results.

[Fencedude]

And you're the one who just can't get over the fact that people liked Endless Eight.


Regardless, here's hoping they don't pull the same shit again.

Not holding my breath, though.


Jesus christ they aren't going to do it again! This is the most utterly ridiculous thing people go on about. Endless Eight is unique in that the situation that allowed for its creation will almost definitely never occur again, with Haruhi or any other franchise in any other medium.

This is the "slippery slope" fallacy at its most ridiculous.

[Draneor]

And you're the one who just can't get over the fact that people liked Endless Eight.

For the record, I did not care for Endless Eight after a couple episodes. The trolling is still annoying.

Edit: oh yeah, if you want some real amusement head over to Sankaku, they're EXTREMELY butthurt over this.

Sankaku is... I really don't get the propensity for English-speaking online fandom to engage in back seat cultural criticism of Japanese otaku culture as if their opinion mattered. Because let's be honest: even if the industry made the anime they claim they want, they wouldn't be buying it.

The best comment I saw though was that, now that Haruhi sucks, it's a moe show (because of the evil influence of MoeAni).

What would really be interesting is a poll..IN JAPAN, asking buyers of E8 if they got it to complete a collection, or if they genuinely liked E8 and want to see Kadokawa do something unique like this again

You're not going to get a scientific poll about this. Namely because it would be stupid. So why don't we just all agree some people bought it because they liked it and some people bought it because they're obsessive-compulsive Haruhi fans. In the end, it doesn't matter why 12,000 people decided to buy it. They did.

Jesus christ they aren't going to do it again!

Endless Busters. :) It could happen. Really.

[Bibulb]

Let's not forget that BDs vastly outsell DVDs for many anime in Japan as well. I wonder how many people held off because Haruhi only came out on DVD?

While my contribution isn't exactly germane to this portion of the discussion, it is why I haven't been importing the R2s - between not having a region-free player and not wanting to double-dip when the BD release hits, I'm just waiting. (Although if R1 DVDs of the 2009 release hit before BDs on either side of the pond, then I WILL go ahead and double dip.)

[Fencedude]

Endless Busters. :) It could happen. Really.

I think thats Nanoha's newest attack.

[Suwako Moriya]

Edit: oh yeah, if you want some real amusement head over to Sankaku, they're EXTREMELY butthurt over this. Its pretty hilarious seeing them try to justify how E8 is a failure when it sold 12,000 copies anyway.

You know if some of the series I liked had "failed" in the way E8 did then I probably would have been able to see another season.

[something]

Oops, just noticed my subject line for Vol. 2 said Vol. 1. Anyway, I got this in today and there's a... a something. I'm not sure what it is. Anyone have a clue?

Checking back, it sounds like I got whatever traviskeshav got. Some kinda plastic thing with a shot of the SOS-dan (-Itsuki, +Imouto) on the Remote Island Syndrome boat. Maybe the filmstrips (that I'm 0/3 on) are supposed to go in there? :sd: Mine will end up being empty...

One thing I don't quite like about unusual cases is no good place to put the stuff that comes with it. The cardboard pouch on the inside top cover barely holds the coaster and certainly won't hold this.

But it's more Haruhi, so yay. With two of the best E8 episodes to boot, 3 and 4. Part 4 being my favorite.

[ilmaestro]

Presuming I'm looking at the same thing (it opens along the top and the left hand side, right?), it's a "Mini clear file, with original illustration by Nishiya Futoshi", as taken from the spine card. So, it's like a clear file you would keep pieces of paper in... except much smaller than pieces of paper I would regularly use. So I don't know what you're supposed to put in there. At the moment, I'm just keeping it in the digipack, since the outer sleeve prevents it from falling out sideways. Although I rather think that defeats the object of buying the LE to get the collectible goodies.

I'm also 0/3 on film strips, and 0/3 on fancy coasters. ;_;

[Draneor]

Volume 4 sold 12,278 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-01/japan-animation-dvd-ranking-november-23-29) in the first week or 3.6% less than the previous volume. Given the very low decrease, I think we can infer the base Haruhi fandom is around 12,000. I'd be amazed if it dropped any further.

[Buster Darkwings]

The base fandom who is willing to support an HD-animated show on DVD, anyways. I'd most likely be buying Endless 8 if it were on Blu-ray, although I'd probably wait to see if the price goes down on Amazon first.

[Draneor]

The base fandom who is willing to support an HD-animated show on DVD, anyways.

Point taken. I wonder if they'll (finally) release the BDs when the movie comes out? It's like Kadokawa is sitting on a gold mine.

[Fencedude]

Volume 4 sold 12,278 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-01/japan-animation-dvd-ranking-november-23-29) in the first week or 3.6% less than the previous volume. Given the very low decrease, I think we can infer the base Haruhi fandom is around 12,000. I'd be amazed if it dropped any further.

*goes and checks something*

Ah yes, the butthurt continues among those who live half a world away.

Sankaku's collective tears taste like candy.

[traviskeshav]

I was really thinking about holding off on the last two volumes of Endless Eight for now, but I like the cover art on the last volume too much. And you can't have a partially empty DVD box, so I suspect that is unfortunately (?) going to pull me back in later in December.

[something]

The base fandom who is willing to support an HD-animated show on DVD, anyways. I'd most likely be buying Endless 8 if it were on Blu-ray, although I'd probably wait to see if the price goes down on Amazon first.
Was Haruhi animated in HD? I thought people were claiming otherwise. Well not that it wouldn't benefit from a BD release anyway.

I'd be tempted to rebuy if it came in a nice set with all 28 episodes but having already spent $600 on the DVDs for this season, I dunno...

[Buster Darkwings]

The first season was most likely all or mostly in SD, but AFAIK everything KyoAni has done starting with Kanon has been in HD (well, not sure about Haruhi-chan).

[iserlohn]

It's not 12,000 fans. It's 600 fans buying 20 copies each to get all of the store exclusive phone cards, posters, and point stamps. =P

[Draneor]

It's 600 fans buying 20 copies each to get all of the store exclusive phone cards, posters, and point stamps. =P

Not every DVD has store exclusives.

[Betenoire]

It's not 12,000 fans. It's 600 fans buying 20 copies each to get all of the store exclusive phone cards, posters, and point stamps. =P

Then those 600 fans care far more than most series fans. And since "money" is the name of the game at the end of the road those 600 have more power than "many" others who don't support their favorite series to that extent. :P

[Ingraman]

The base fandom who is willing to support an HD-animated show on DVD, anyways. I'd most likely be buying Endless 8 if it were on Blu-ray, although I'd probably wait to see if the price goes down on Amazon first.

I bought all of the LE DVDs for Haruhi's earlier series, but I've skipped the '09 DVDs to wait for blu-ray. If a BD release doesn't happen, or if it does, but lacks the translation (just how are the subtitles on the DVDs?), then KyoAni/Kadokawa won't get my money until there's a US release (since the R2 LE DVDs will be a lot harder to get by the time any news comes out).

I do want to buy the series, but I'm not sure when that will happen. ^_^

[something]

or if it does, but lacks the translation (just how are the subtitles on the DVDs?)
They're... functional. As you might expect they can be awkward, and there's a good deal of over-translation of cultural things (no doubt assuming foreigners can't understand these "complicated" Japanese concepts, not that R1 translators set them a good example on that count anyway). I certainly wouldn't use it as my translation of choice given that there's better out there. But if you just want something on the discs that is factually accurate in describing what is happening in the episode, they are acceptable.

[ilmaestro]

Yayayayayaayaaaayy!! I finally got something "extra" - one of the film strips. ^_^

[Suwako Moriya]

Sankaku's collective tears taste like candy.

I was actually stupid enough to read some of the comments there. The lesson I learned is the following. Before we buy anything, we should get their permission.:sweat: They actually make me wish I was collecting the R2s for Haruhi. Which I'm not purely due to budget reasons.

[something]

Yayayayayaayaaaayy!! I finally got something "extra" - one of the film strips. ^_^
Heh yeah got one too this time. And man, the plastic whateveritis thing... Mikuru BOOOOOOOOOOBS like woah.

Also, Yuki is smiling on the cover and it weirds me out. But it's another awesome cover.

[Roujin0308]

Yayayayayaayaaaayy!! I finally got something "extra" - one of the film strips. ^_^
Heh yeah got one too this time.

Whereas for me this is the first E8 volume where I didn't get a film strip, just the plastic mini folder thing and coaster #018.

[relentlessflame]

Whereas for me this is the first E8 volume where I didn't get a film strip, just the plastic mini folder thing and coaster #018.No film strip for me either this month, and coaster #20. Cue "it seems to be random!" :sweat:

I did, however, get an extra of those useless paper sleeves with product info that go around the spines. Wow!

(And regarding the clearfile... Titanic? :sweat: )

[something]

(And regarding the clearfile... Titanic? :sweat: )
Why yes her breasts are rather gargantuan!

..wait.

[DiGiKerot]

Yayayayayaayaaaayy!! I finally got something "extra" - one of the film strips. ^_^
Heh yeah got one too this time.

Me three. I'd have thought they'd have upped the quantities if it wasn't for those posting here saying they didn't get one.

That said, my film strip was a HIGHLY EXCITING series of pictures... of a candle. Man, even when I'm winning I feel like I'm losing :sweat:

[something]

That said, my film strip was a HIGHLY EXCITING series of pictures... of a candle. Man, even when I'm winning I feel like I'm losing :sweat:
Mine was of the group running in the... OP? I'd have to check. In truth, I have no idea what the hell I'm supposed to do with a film strip but it's the principle of the thing. :sd:

[DiGiKerot]

That said, my film strip was a HIGHLY EXCITING series of pictures... of a candle. Man, even when I'm winning I feel like I'm losing :sweat:
Mine was of the group running in the... OP? I'd have to check. In truth, I have no idea what the hell I'm supposed to do with a film strip but it's the principle of the thing. :sd:

You're supposed to use it as a bookmark, if you believe what the packaging says.

[Shiroi Hane]

The only film strip I've ever had was from Brave Story (it wasn't a particularly good scene). I keep it in the DVD box like I do most extras.

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I keep it in the DVD box like I do most extras.
That's what I'm doing with all the various Haruhi stuff now, since the DVD cases they used are not very good at holding the stuff. Besides, I have all of the discs out of the cases and displayed cover-put on my shelf anyway, so the room in the box is available.

[Shiroi Hane]

Yayayayayaayaaaayy!! I finally got something "extra" - one of the film strips. ^_^
Heh yeah got one too this time. And man, the plastic whateveritis thing... Mikuru BOOOOOOOOOOBS like woah.

Also, Yuki is smiling on the cover and it weirds me out. But it's another awesome cover.

likewise (http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/xgK1TUXSgb8IAWaqWcrcPA?feat=directlink), I finally got something from the lottery - Yuki (not smiling).

although mine was with vol. 5.285714 which is the latest I have got, these numbers are so confusing.

[ilmaestro]

:shinyhappyface:

Got another film strip, which was nice. Maybe they're being more generous with them, now.

And I love the illustration on the cover of the LE - definitely my favorite so far.

[traviskeshav]

:shinyhappyface:

Got another film strip, which was nice. Maybe they're being more generous with them, now.

And I love the illustration on the cover of the LE - definitely my favorite so far.

I really like the last cover on the last LE DVD as well... honestly, that's probably the only reason I got these final two.

Also got a film strip on the last DVD... looks like everyone at the beach. It is cool and all, although I'm not really sure what to do with it. I guess maybe I'll really just use it as a bookmark after all.

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:shinyhappyface: Got another film strip, which was nice. Maybe they're being more generous with them, now.
And I love the illustration on the cover of the LE - definitely my favorite so far.
Filmstrip here as well, though not an exciting one. Just someone (Haruhi presumably) opening the cicada cage. The image on the clear file is pretty awesome though - Imouto holding hands with Haruhi and Mikuru as they walk away from the ship. Mikuru's boobs flailing about as usual.

And yeah, the Yuki cover is pretty stunning. Four awesome shots of her in a row has been a treat, although I'm still totally in love with the young Haruhi cover on the first disc as my favorite.

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I just saw a listing for this (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-694960) on CDJapan just now. Far as I can gtell from the description, it's the Vol. 1 DVD, an Itou Noiji artbook of sorts, and some other things. Anyone have any idea what "(NFS)" means? "Not For Sale"? And what the heck is a "Promotional swing POP"?

Not that it matters, as I've already bought the disc so them putting this out now does me no good. :relief: As much as I love Haruhi 2k9, I can't buy a disc *twice*. Really wish they'd solicit this sort of thing earlier. Oh well.


I'm also very amused to see that Vol. 7 will feature... Itsuki! (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/13/04/KABA-6007.jpg) Well, he's not a cute girl but he is my second favorite character after Haruhi, so I can't complain.

[relentlessflame]

I just saw a listing for this (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-694960) on CDJapan just now. Far as I can gtell from the description, it's the Vol. 1 DVD, an Itou Noiji artbook of sorts, and some other things. Anyone have any idea what "(NFS)" means? "Not For Sale"? And what the heck is a "Promotional swing POP"?Yeah, it's the volume 1 DVD, this artbook (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4048542982/), and three "rare items" that aren't sold separately (and yeah, NFS = Not For Sale). I think a "promotional swing POP" is probably one of those cardboard standie things you might see in retail stores.

And yeah, it is sort of useless for most Haruhi collectors, because most of the collectors will already have the DVD and artbook. I guess they're banking on the fact that some people will buy it just for the three exclusive items. I think you could also see it as some sort of weird "excess stock" sale (I'm guessing they probably overshot on the first print run of the first DVD... it's 60% off at Amazon right now), except rather than lower the price, they're raising the price and throwing in bonus items. :sweat:

I guess it wouldn't be that bad if you wanted the DVD and the book, but yeah.

[Shiroi Hane]

I must confess you confused me on "Otoshimono".. try "Otanoshimi" :)
If it helps, you can see the original Japanese on Neowing:
http://www.neowing.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-694960

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I must confess you confused me on "Otoshimono".. try "Otanoshimi" :)
Fixed. I blame Nymph, and Sohara's breasts.

[ilmaestro]

I guess this isn't really the right thread, but I couldn't see one for the movie, and didn't think this deserved its own one since people are already probably either well aware or not interested at the moment.

There's a new promo video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrkNp02tu0) up for the movie soundtrack, which comes out this week. The images are now (allegedly, I still didn't look at the screen when I had it on) spoiler free, and the music really does seem to be excellent.

[traviskeshav]

Hm. I liked the original image montage a little better, but it was rather revealing about the movie. I kind of hope the CD has a fold-out poster or something interesting like that, but who knows.

On a semi-related thought, I am not in Japan (of course), but I wonder if the target audience (who is probably not us!) would consider it spoilers, given that this is based upon source material that is over five years old.

[Roujin0308]

I guess this isn't really the right thread, but I couldn't see one for the movie, and didn't think this deserved its own one since people are already probably either well aware or not interested at the moment.

There's a new promo video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrkNp02tu0) up for the movie soundtrack, which comes out this week. The images are now (allegedly, I still didn't look at the screen when I had it on) spoiler free, and the music really does seem to be excellent.

Currently, the Second Season of Haruhi Suzumiya thread (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1696160#post1696160) (in General Anime) is playing host to preliminary discussion - linking to trailers and such - of the movie. If you just want to plug the soundtrack, there's always the Language, Culture, and Popular Media forum (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/forumdisplay.php?f=29) ...

[ilmaestro]

On a semi-related thought, I am not in Japan (of course), but I wonder if the target audience (who is probably not us!) would consider it spoilers, given that this is based upon source material that is over five years old.
Well, I can only assume that that's why they changed the video in the first place.

[traviskeshav]

One for six on filmstrips. Boo. No strange plastic case this time either.

Still, it's Haruhi. Thought about cancelling these preorders when the license was announced for R1, but decided against it since there's not even a release date.

[ilmaestro]

Nothing shiny and pretty and bonus-ey for me this month, either. :(

Those mini-clear files feel super random, now, and this month's box felt very empty having had one of them and a film strip in my last two. Don't like the Mikuru cover as much as any of the others, either, although I think that's down to my preference for the characters more than anything.

[DiGiKerot]

Those mini-clear files feel super random, now, and this month's box felt very empty having had one of them and a film strip in my last two.

It's not really super-random - I don't mean this is a bad way or anything, but they were literally just extras shoved in to promote the sales of the Endless Eight disks. Now the release is into Sighs, there's no reason for them to continue with them.

I did get a film strip this time around, though it's Kyon (again).

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Nothing shiny and pretty and bonus-ey for me this month, either. :(
Those mini-clear files feel super random, now, and this month's box felt very empty having had one of them and a film strip in my last two. Don't like the Mikuru cover as much as any of the others, either, although I think that's down to my preference for the characters more than anything.
No special stuff in this batch for me either. I really love the cover though, but then I adore Mikuru (and everyone else in this show). My favorite cover still has to be the first, although I have all the covers lined up facing out (oh god that takes up so much shelf space, dunno how long I'll be able to get away with it) which makes the four Yuki covers look pretty amazing as she turns from side, faces you, then to the other side.

Itsuki is next (which is fine, he's my second favorite Haruhi character) and I guess the last will be... Haruhi again? Unless we get Kyon, heh. Well, I'd love to have a present-day Haruhi cover in there somewhere, as much as I adore young Haruhi. On the other hand we'll surely be getting her on a Shoushitsu cover (albeit Shoushitsu version) so I wouldn't mind someone else getting Vol. 8.

[ilmaestro]

I really love the cover though, but then I adore Mikuru (and everyone else in this show)
Oh, I like the cover in and of itself, and I like Mikuru in and of herself - just not as much as Yuki or Haruhi, and their covers.


Those mini-clear files feel super random, now, and this month's box felt very empty having had one of them and a film strip in my last two.

It's not really super-random - I don't mean this is a bad way or anything, but they were literally just extras shoved in to promote the sales of the Endless Eight disks.
More extras to help EE sell = not random. Making those extras be mini clear files, and only with three of the four EE volumes = makes it feel really random.

[traviskeshav]

Well, one for seven on film strips. AAAAAH!

My desire for inconsequential trinkets aside, in the usual screenshots included on the DVD, there is a really good picture of Tsuruya, smiling and looking at the screen. Definite desktop wallpaper material.