Shugo Chara! Party - Discussion Thread [Archive]

Fudce

10-01-2009, 02:55 PM

Shugo Chara powers up this weekend, with the third year starting with yet another name change and a new segment of anime shorts. We still don't know how the two animated components will fit together with the live action moments promised, but finding out will be interesting. Regardless of how things work out, I've decided to start a third thread for the third series.

ANN entry (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=11104).
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shugo_Chara).
Official site (http://shugo-chara.com/).
Shugo Chara! Discussion Thread.
Shugo Chara!! Doki Discussion Thread.

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Quarkboy

10-01-2009, 03:04 PM

Well, some of us know what it's going to be like already, anyway :).

FYI for everyone, before it gets confusing:

Name of entire program: "Shugo Chara Party!"
Name of main anime within program: "Shugo Chara!!! Dokki Doki" [exclamation points [sic]]
Name of short anime within program: "Shugo Chara Pucchi Puchi"

Each episode has 1 episode of Dokki Doki and 2 pucchi puchi shorts.

Oh, and thanks to the live action parts I have like half the time I used to to get the subs completed now :(. Damn last minute editing...

Fudce

10-01-2009, 03:15 PM

Well, some of us know what it's going to be like already, anyway :).
Bah, stop showing off about your early viewing :P

FYI for everyone, before it gets confusing:

Name of entire program: "Shugo Chara Party!"
Name of main anime within program: "Shugo Chara!!! Dokki Doki" [exclamation points [sic]]
Name of short anime within program: "Shugo Chara Pucchi Puchi"
I knew the names, but decided not to include them since they would get confusing. You have to wonder that if they get a fourth series, will we get "Shugo Chara!!!! Dokkki Dokki Doki"? :P

Each episode has 1 episode of Dokki Doki and 2 pucchi puchi shorts.
So how long are the shorts, and how short is the main body of the series?

bci110

10-01-2009, 04:46 PM

I can't wait to get this party started :)! The Charas are definitely ready.

Fudce

10-02-2009, 08:30 PM

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I dunno why, but I have a feeling of 'recap' for this episode, as I sit here with the Crunchyroll countdown timer now nearing 30 seconds to go. Lets hope I'm wrong.

Oh wow, that live action intro was so akward...
Looks like Pucchi Puchi is up first.
They're coming up with a new pose for Pucchi Puchi.
and Dia is the voice of reason.
and she breaks the fourth wall.
A short break for more live action, and then more PP.
Dia finds a cute flower and wants to show it off to the gang, but they're too busy to notice.
Aw... poor Dia, she loses her flower too. :(
They give her back her flower, and pin it to her hair. Along with many more flowers.
Dia is angry!
Ah, here's the intro to Dokki Doki.
And Hikaru and a new character?
The intro seems to have a lot of recycled animation...
New girl is struggling to water a small flower.
She's not wearing the same uniform as Amu, is she in the school lower?
And she can see the characters, she's a bit ditzy.
Her name is Rikka Hiiragi.
She tries to help a cat in a tree, but ends up being saved by Amu again!
Suddenly, an X-egg, and the guys run off to find it.
Not much change in the transformation scenes, just different frames - oh and Amu uses Amulet Spade in the first episode? How rare.
Rikka walks in in the fight, but can understand the X-egg. How convenient!
Rikka feels sorrt for the X-eggs that got abandonned. And it seems she's keeping lots of them at her home. She's weird...

That was strange. I'm sure I'll get used to it, but I'm not really liking the live action bits right now. It feels overly akward. The little PP shorts are very cute, should be amusing each week. As for the episode itself? It was essentially a half-length episode that barely did anything. That said, Rikka is cute and she definitly has potential. I can see some confusion coming her way, and possibly grooming her to replace Amu as the lead at some point?

And what about Amu's graduation? That has to be coming up fast, what are they going to do then?

Suwako Moriya

10-02-2009, 08:37 PM

Heh, I was waiting for this sub thread to be made. Yeah, I just had to watch the live airing for a change of pace and due to curiosity. In any case, I'll keep it short.

They either need to make the show longer or get rid of the live action segments. They just eat up time.

Pucchi Puchi is rather cute and it works fine for me.

Having the main anime be shorter does result in kind of a rushed feeling.

Rikka has definite potential depending on how they handle her.

The main thing I'm happy about is Dia getting actual screen time.

Quarkboy

10-02-2009, 08:38 PM

The reaction to this on CR was quick and harsh. As I predicted, unfortunately.

A perceptive person will realize that Shugo Chara Party! looks to be the last ignoble twilight of SC...

I'm kind of looking forward to the audition footage, though.

Mateo_home

10-02-2009, 08:43 PM

Not much change in the transformation scenes, just different frames - oh and Amu uses Amulet Spade in the first episode? How rare. That was a surprise for me. I was expecting AH as it's her primary form, but since it's an art situation, it's Miki's turn. As for the rest, it felt like I was watching a commercial more than an episode, but I blame that on the live action segments. Yeah, the OP, ED, and transformation animations felt stock. Rikka is cute and curious to why the X-eggs seem to like her. Pucchi Puchi is amusing seeing Ran, Miki, and Su argue over silly things and Dia stealing the spotlight in the end.

I don't dislike this new series, it's just a matter of getting adjusted. I also hope this party doesn't spawn seven sequels and two spin-offs for the GBA and DS.:P

bci110

10-02-2009, 08:56 PM

They either need to make the show longer or get rid of the live action segments. They just eat up time.

Personally I would get rid of the live-action segments. The girls playing Heart, Spade, and Clover were pretty cute, but that was the only positive thing about the segment. The concept was awful and made the show way too tacky.

Pucchi Puchi is rather cute and it works fine for me.

I liked the Pucchi Puchi segments too, but I think it'll benefit more if they show the segments after the anime episode instead of before. But I think it's a nice way of giving the Charas some extra screen time and eventually will work out. It gets a thumbs-up from me.

And Dia breaking the fourth wall and her episode with the flowers gets two big thumbs-up from me :catgirl:!

Having the main anime be shorter does result in kind of a rushed feeling.

Rikka has definite potential depending on how they handle her.

The main thing I'm happy about is Dia getting actual screen time.

Outside of Rikka, it was basically a typical SC episode. But yes I do agree that Rikka will be a very interesting player in the SC universe if they handle her correctly. Maybe they won't make the same mistakes with Rikka like they did with Lulu in the Doki series. Curious to see what exactly is her relationship with the X-Eggs and how (and why) she can sense their feelings. Very mysterious little girl.

Dia becoming a regular was long overdue. Go Dia!

So overall I though the first episode was pretty decent, but the live-action segments nearly ruined it for me. But of course I'll be back next week to see if there are any improvements.

LKK

10-02-2009, 09:44 PM

They either need to make the show longer or get rid of the live action segments. They just eat up time.
I think eating up time is the reason for the live action sections.

Fudce

10-09-2009, 08:28 PM

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Lets hope that things have improved this week...

Very short live action segment to start us off, followed by Pucchi Puchi!
Hide and seek...
Ran sucks at hiding.
...and Su is trying to be Suiseiseki-desu.
There are three Su's!
and it was all a dream-desu.
Su and Dia on the encyclopedia this week.
Hurray for product placement!
And back to the second part of Pucchi Puchi. Miki is telling Ran about the dream.
More dreams and more Su's.
When you water Su, she multiplys.
and more "just a dream" and more Su's!
Wow, the live action is very short again this week - great!
Dokki Doki!
Aw... the X-eggs aren't letting Rikka oversleep. :)
and Rikka really is a goofball. She's copying Amu's Open Heart.
And she 'rescues' another lost X-egg.
Second new transfer student. Hikaru Ichinomiya. Yeah, 'Freaky Kid'.
Apparantly he's gonna be a Guardian Apprentice.
Some basketball with Nagihiko and Hikaru, Hikaru does good after trying hard. :)
Ballgame based egg this week, Amulet Heart & Beat Jumper fight, and Rikka does her feeling thing.
Rikka is another guardian apprentice.
Oh god, Rikka and Hikaru make such a great pair!

Well there was less of the live action this week thankfully, and the episodes were fun if too short. It's gonna take some getting used to but it's better than last week. :)

Mateo_home

10-09-2009, 08:40 PM

Rikka copying Amu's Open Heart was the best part of the episode (I laughed my ass off). It's great Hikaru is attending school to give himself a childhood. And yes, him and Rikka will be great together. Puchi Puchi was great as well. Su multiplies when watered. Perhaps this way Nikaido will finally get a Su of his own.

Great improvement from last week. When I look at it, Doki had a weak start with two recap episodes and two mediocre OP themes, but it improved greatly afterwards. But I feel the odds of ditching the LA segments down the road aren't too good.

The Great Bear

10-09-2009, 09:12 PM

So that's…um…it?

I have to say, I'm not liking the new format much at all. The live action segments are inane, and the Pucchi Pucchi section is more than utterly forgettable. I'm thinking that in future I might just skip ahead to the main feature and just watch that and nothing more.

Quarkboy

10-09-2009, 10:33 PM

Personally, the live action segments are horrid, but episode 2's pucchi pucchi definitely made me laugh...

And Rikka is so cute! So cute! I'm getting all "if I had a daughter I'd want her to be just like that" feelings and crap... I just wanna like, muss her hair and be all "rikka, you so silly!"

So far, Shugo Chara Pucchi puchi and dokki doki have gotten better each episode. Let's hope it's just some growing pains from the new format.

It might not really be the old Shugo Chara, but it's still enjoyable. Sad seeing Amu and the Guardians basically shifted to supporting characters...

EmperorBrandon

10-10-2009, 02:27 AM

I will admit, I am rather getting into Pucchi Puchi. The first ones were just kind of cute and not much else, but the multiplying Su's here was freaking hilarious. Su has really gotten to be one of my favorites, and being a bit more into Toyosaki Aki's performance lately helps too ("Desu!" :) )

The anime segment may be shorter, but it doesn't seem to have lost its charm. I think I'm going to like Rikka. She's seemingly the polar opposite of Hikaru in personality, so that's going to be a somewhat interesting or at least amusing pair for Guardian Trainees here.

Oh, and durr... I almost forgot to even comment on the mix of live-action into the series. I guess that shows I'm at least starting to tune out the silliness of it all. Yeah, did seem really jarring at first, but that's how it goes...

bci110

10-10-2009, 12:18 PM

I have to admit that the second episode was slightly better than the first, but the live-action segments are still ruining the show fro me. Last week I said that they made the show too tacky; now they're making it too gimmicky. Luckily they cut the air time in half, but I think thye eventualy have to go if they want to keep their viewers from fleeing.

The Pucchi Puchi episodes were pretty funny. Double Team Suu was awesome, and in some way I understand how Miki was feeling. It's tough enough dealing with one Suu; I don't believe any sane persone would handle acres and acres of Suus :sweat:.

As for the actual episode itself, nice to see that Hikaru might become a recurring character and are he and Rikka going to be an item? I have to agree that they do make a cute pair, though :catgirl:.

Overall there were some improvements from last week and for the most part it's still enjoyable to watch, but something must be done about the LA segments.

Mateo_home

10-10-2009, 12:47 PM

The Pucchi Puchi episodes were pretty funny. Double Team Suu was awesome, and in some way I understand how Miki was feeling. It's tough enough dealing with one Suu; I don't believe any sane persone would handle acres and acres of Suus :sweat:.

So that means only one is real and to get the fakes to dissapear you'd have to hit Su? That sounds impossible. I couldn't hit her.

Overall there were some improvements from last week and for the most part it's still enjoyable to watch, but something must be done about the LA segments.Unfortunately that has to be up the younger audience. Which I am curious to know if they enjoy the LA segments. I should know this, but the Nestle Crunchroll audiance is secondary.

Suwako Moriya

10-10-2009, 01:42 PM

Unfortunately that has to be up the younger audience. Which I am curious to know if they enjoy the LA segments.

Great, I just imagined the LA segments becoming so popular that the anime portion gets completely dropped.

bci110

10-10-2009, 02:24 PM

[quote]Overall there were some improvements from last week and for the most part it's still enjoyable to watch, but something must be done about the LA segments.

Unfortunately that has to be up the younger audience. Which I am curious to know if they enjoy the LA segments. I should know this, but the Nestle Crunchroll audiance is secondary.

Yeah I'm pretty curious to see what the TV ratings are going to be like for the first two weeks. I understand that it's a show targeted at kids, but even if the kids are tuning off on the show, that's spells bad news for the franchise as a whole.

Quarkboy

10-10-2009, 08:00 PM

The Great Bear

10-10-2009, 08:04 PM

Insider tip: The LA segments were not added because anyone thought the kids would like it more. Take a step back and think through from a business perspective what the show is like, and you'll find out the real reason.

Those are the girls from Buono! right? So, I take it that they've decided to make the opening part of the show into an infomercial.

Otherwise, I don't see how it benefits the business end, unless the problem is that they are going to catch up to the manga again way too soon, and so by cutting the show in half, they can also cut down on filler that might turn off the fans.

Fudce

10-10-2009, 08:06 PM

Insider tip: The LA segments were not added because anyone thought the kids would like it more. Take a step back and think through from a business perspective what the show is like, and you'll find out the real reason.

Oh the reasons are all too obvious. It's cheaper, it allows for more product placement, and they can better push Guardian4, Shugo Chara Egg, and Buono songs.

Suwako Moriya

10-10-2009, 10:44 PM

Quarkboy

10-11-2009, 04:10 AM

I ended up re-watching the episode with subs this time and of course I skipped over parts of it to make the experience better. Nice to get a better idea what Rikka is like.

What's interesting about her compared to both Utau and Lulu is her role the story. Rather than starting with a role of "Hi, I'm here to make your life miserable", she seems to be more focused on being helpful. Granted that might just make things more complicated in the long run.

I'm not sure why the fandom assumes she's a new antagonist. Just 'cause she talks to X Eggs doesn't make her evil in any way, IMO.

She's more like the role of Chibi Moon... i.e. a plot creation device, but not in any way a true antagonist.

Fencedude

10-11-2009, 04:16 AM

She's more like the role of Chibi Moon... i.e. a plot creation device, but not in any way a true antagonist.

But hopefully not become the hated pariah that Chibi-Usa was.

(on the other hand, Chibi Chibi? AWESOME)

Suwako Moriya

10-11-2009, 04:29 AM

Quarkboy

10-11-2009, 05:30 AM

She's more like the role of Chibi Moon... i.e. a plot creation device, but not in any way a true antagonist.

You speak as if Chibi Moon wasn't pure evil. Ok, technically she wasn't evil. However some of her actions when she was first introduced painted her in an extremely negative light.

As for Rikka, I never meant to imply she was an antagonist. In fact, part of what makes her stand is the fact she isn't an antagonist. Although I suppose people will now start pointing out to a bunch of other characters that aren't antagonists.
Not necessarily you, but most people seem to think of her as a filler character and start comparing her to Lulu.

But I think (or well, know...) that her role in the story is nothing like Lulu's was at all.

My comparison with Chibi Usa was mainly to point out that they are likely introduced with the same goal in mind: Add in a younger, less mature character to help demonstrate the growth and maturity of the main characters.

Her and Hikaru play off the "old" Guardians and give kids a fresh young face to identify with, while allowing Amu and the rest to act as mentors a bit, establishing their character growth.

Fudce

10-16-2009, 08:35 PM

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Was watching on my PC and it's clear to see the difference when watched on a PS3 and PC whilst using the same settings...

Pucchi Puchi #1
-The classic "body swap" scenario, involving Ran, Miki, Su, Kiseki, and a cat. Not all that original but was worth it to hear Su talking like Kiseki.

Pucchi Puchi #2
-Lots more X-eggs are turning up so Su forms the Shugo Bomber team.
-She's the Commisioner, and Ran, Miki, and Dia are the Shugo Bomber team.
-Ran is Shugo Fire. The hot-blooded leader!
-Miki is Shugo Aqua. The cool but kind second-in-command!
-Dia is Shugo Thunder. She's sorta the comic relief character - but really gets into it!
-Su's sunglasses were the best part though. She looked really awesome, sort of like a Su version of Ken from You're Under Arrest!

Dokki Doki
-Utau is having a concert, and she's invited along Amu, who in turn has invited the two trainee's.
-Rikka is a huge Utau fan, Hikaru is Hikaru.
-Utau is looking awesome, Rikka is a total fangirl.
-They're getting messages from Ikuto, who's travelling the world looking for their father. (Am I imagining them forgetting to mention that?)
-Utau sings, X-egg arrives (followed Rikka since it's a big Utau fan also)
-Fight happens, Rikka does her feeling thing, Amu purifies (Amulet Spade)
-Closing message from Utau, essentially thanks Rikka for her support.
-Hikaru finds Rikka interesting and will be observing her closely... No peeking into the changing room little boy!

That was cute but way too short. I like what they're doing with Rikka and Hikaru, and they do make a very cute couple, but that episode was severely lacking Seraphic or Lunatic Charm.

On another note, I actually picked out a good fortune for a change. The last two weeks I have had 1 star, but this time I got all four!

Mateo_home

10-16-2009, 08:47 PM

Liked the second Puchi short better. Sentai Shugo Chara! Dia being yellow is the comic relief and is usually eating alot. I remember Galaxy Angel made the same statement as Ranpha complained that the yellow is always fat. I never watched enought Sentai to notice.

As for the main episode, it was good and was shocked to see an Utau episode this early whom for this episode will be dubbed Kobato Utau (it's the color outfit and guess they're not ready for a new song just yet). For her sake, looks like Hikaru didn't quite comprehend Rikka's connection with X-eggs. As these episodes are shorter, would like them to take a week off from X-egg of the week formula at least once later on.

EmperorBrandon

10-16-2009, 09:51 PM

-The classic "body swap" scenario, involving Ran, Miki, Su, Tadase, and a cat. Not all that original but was worth it to hear Su talking like Tadase.

You mean Kiseki. Kiseki in Su's body was the best part of that, though, hearing her calling people knaves and commoners and whatnot. :)

-Su's sunglasses were the best part though. She looked really awesome, sort of like a Su version of Ken from You're Under Arrest!

And Su in sunglasses was awesome too. Commisioner Su was pretty funny. It really seems she's had many of the best parts in Pucchi Puchi so far.

As far as the main show goes, Hikaru taking an interest in Rikka was nice. Rikka was pretty cute being an Utau fangirl this episode too.

EmperorBrandon

10-16-2009, 09:52 PM

Quarkboy

10-16-2009, 09:57 PM

A note for this episode's translation:

I fretted a lot over the best way to translate "長官" = Choukan

literally, of course, it just means "head of public institution" but it could be director or chief or boss or president...

well, I just thought "commissioner" was the most amusing sounding :)

Mateo_home

10-16-2009, 10:23 PM

Liked the second Puchi short better. Sentai Shugo Chara! Dia being yellow is the comic relief and is usually eating alot. I remember Galaxy Angel made the same statement as Ranpha complained that the yellow is always fat. I never watched enought Sentai to notice.

I've never really watched any Japanese Sentai shows, so that being mentioned made me think of the Axem Rangers (parody of Sentai) in Super Mario RPG, since Yellow was fat there.

Only Sentai I've ever watched was the red ranger special and the first few episodes of Jyuranger (what you all know as Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers). Wasn't enough to notice an Yellow ranger jokes.

Now that it was pointed out in Super Mario RPG, I have to play that game again.

bci110

10-17-2009, 06:24 AM

-Su's sunglasses were the best part though. She looked really awesome, sort of like a Su version of Ken from You're Under Arrest!

Sunglasses Suu was pretty awesome, but I didn't like the first Pucchi Puchi episdoe though. I was never a big fan of the whole "body switch" routine so it didn't really worked for me. But I did like the Shugo Chara Sentai bit for the second episode. They seem to be utilizing Suu to her full potential very nicely in these shorts thus far :) .

As for the actual anime episode, the Rikka-Hikaru relationship just got a little bit more interesting with that spat at the end. Rikka being an Utau fangirl was pretty cute, though :sweat:.

No comment on the LA segments; I've said enough. Though I actually have some of those Chara figures the girls were "playing" with.

Oh, and did anyone paid attention to how Dia looked at Utau? Course you all know there's some history between those two ;) .

Fudce

10-23-2009, 08:28 PM

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Here we go again, another week, and probably another X-egg that escapes from Rikka's room.

Pucchi Puchi #1
-Kiseki's lost his crown...
-They make him new crowns.
-Ran's crown is FABULOUS!
-Su's crown is go-go-gadget crown!
-Miki however goes for the warlord headwear.
-And full costume!
-Pepe has the crown.

Pucchi Puchi #2
-Shugo Bomber! Part 2!
-Dia's really into this.
-Ran and Miki... not so much.
-Bombger!

Dokki Doki
-I really need to again stress out how lame the opening collage is for Dokki Doki. It's not even a real opening animation - it's just reused animation and still images.
-Yes.. Hikaru is intellegent but sheltered. We get it.
-The rabbit attacks him!
-More rabbit duty
-Walking the rabbit
-Enter the Rikka
-The rabbit is sick, and they care for it.
-Hikaru learns a life lesson.

That was a nice change. No X-egg in sight. No progress in the storyline in sight either. Ah well, there's always next week.

Mateo_home

10-23-2009, 08:38 PM

And just last week I was saying that I was hoping every episode wouldn't be X-egg of the week. My wish came true. Just for a few. I thought this episode was good. Out of five, I'd give it a three. Some great moments of Hikaru bonding with a rabbit was cute and ordering Amu's charas for a bit was funny. Rikka getting involved was icing on the cake.

For Puchi Puchi, the first bit with Kiseki lost his crown was good (if it was me, I would have replaced his crown with one of those paper ones from Burger King). For the second continuing from last week, I was expecting more.

Suwako Moriya

10-23-2009, 08:51 PM

Fudce

10-23-2009, 08:59 PM

That was a nice change. No X-egg in sight. No progress in the storyline in sight either. Ah well, there's always next week.

I get the feeling we're going to have several weeks in a row like this. I'm starting to think this whole "strategy" for the third season is not just for the sake of saving money, but for another reason as well.

That reason boiling down to "All right then, we need to make sure we don't lose this time slot. So we're going to need to come up with something to kill time while waiting until we figure out what we actually want to do with the story."

Oh that's part of the reason for sure. The anime has caught up with the manga, and one-chapter-per-month just couldn't work when they were showing one twenty minute episode per week. So instead of speeding up the manga (which would be hard) they've slowed down the anime. Instead of 20 minutes of episode, we have 10 minute episodes, plus an anime original arc.

bci110

10-26-2009, 05:48 PM

Pretty decent episode overall, though nothing spectacular. Just like Lady Dia, I'm starting to get into the Shugo Bomber craze that Lady Suu started (Bombger!). Ran and Miki though loses points for make Suu cry :P. The first one with Kiseki losing his crown was okay, though Mateo's suggestion to use those paper Buger King crowns as a replacement would've been funny. (Do they even have Burger Kings in Japan? I think they have McDonalds there.)

As for the actual anime episode, pretty good stand-alone with Hikaru and the usagi. It looks that Hikaru is starting to grow more human and breaking out of his shell a bit. More bonding with Rikka was pretty nice, and I liked how he ordered Amu's charas around.

Suwako Moriya

10-27-2009, 09:40 PM

Only Shugo Chara Bomber can save us.

In any case, I wonder if any of the X Eggs that Rikka has will become X Characters.

Fudce

10-30-2009, 08:29 PM

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Pucchi Puchi #1
-Ran seems more hyperactive than normal...
-She can't stop running, so Miki and Su help her.
-A wall doesn't stop her
-A Miki & Su anchor doesn't stop her.
-A banana peel doesn't stop her.
-Pepe finds the answer, she just needed a finish line!

Pucchi Puchi #2
-Hmm, a crab. It's not giant nor an enemy.
-It's scary? And Miki is missing?
-Oh, there she is.
-It was a spell to catch both Kiseki and Rhythm. Miki's such a playgirl.

Dokki Doki
-More manual labour for the apprentices. Rikka is happy, Hikaru is Hikaru.
-Rikka is distracted by ants.
-The flowers were all planeted by Yaya. Rikka is happy.
-Rikka asks an X-egg for help with the garden!
-Giant flowers!
-Dear Baby! Amulet Clover!
-It's a magic plant. It does tricks.
-Amu uses "talk attack", open heart, and purify!
-The flower bed is ruined... I guess this is why we had Amulet Clover.

And another 4 stars!

Suwako Moriya

10-30-2009, 08:40 PM

Pepe finds the answer, she just needed a finish line!

I have to admit that does sound like an interesting answer.

Hmm, a crab. It's not giant nor an enemy.

So there's no weak point for massive damage?

Rikka asks an X-egg for help with the garden!

I can already imagine how well that went over. (Yeah, I missed the broadcast).

Amu uses "talk attack", open heart, and purify!

It seems that Amu makes a more effective therapist than she does a warrior.

Mateo_home

10-31-2009, 08:54 AM

I'm getting used to the LA segments. Not to be confused with starting to like them. First Pucchi Puchi bit with Ran unable to stop was great. It'd be quite sad if she stopped running before she reached the goal. Second one was so-so (I was expecting more Sentai Chara).

The main episode itself was standard. Yaya having the motivation to work was nice, and I must say, she was extra cute this episode. She even got promoted from Yaya-chan-senpai to Yaya-senpai. Shame that it was discovered Remake Honey has a negative side effect.

bci110

11-03-2009, 07:20 PM

It was nice to see another Yaya-centered episode, though this one wasn't as good as the Tsubasa episode. But it did succeed in showing off Yaya's cute side so I guess it did its job. Outside of that and more Rikka-Hikaru moments nothing really spectacular, though I did lol with Lady Yaya devolving into Baby Yaya at the end of the episode :laugh:.

The Pucchi Puchi episdoes were pretty good, but could've been better. Kind of figured from the title that the first one was going to be about Ran - once she starts she just can't stop :sweat:. As for the second episode, I didn't expect someone like Suu would be interested in mystery/suspense programs. Seemed more of Miki's style if you ask me.

Quarkboy

11-03-2009, 07:35 PM

Fudce

11-06-2009, 08:25 PM

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The Place Eggs Return To? Surely that's the frying pan...

Pucchi Puchi #1
-Woah, straight into PP1 without any real intro?
-Professor Miki?
-Miki's invented an invisibility potion.
-Nobody wants to try it.
-Suddenly, Miki gets ahead. Well, gets invisible except her head.

Pucchi Puchi #2
-Back to the lab...
-And back to the invisibility potion...
-Miki is fully invisible!
-And Su wants to seal Pepe's pacifier.
-And the potion is still a failure, sort of.

Doki Dokki
-Woah, they're starting this very early, either the episode is longer, or they're going to talk a lot more at the end.
-Rikka is easily distracted.
-They send Rikka to go get Yaya and Hikaru, and they send the guardian characters to keep her on track.
-She gets distracted.
-And now she's asking questions about lost eggs.
-There's an X-egg...
-Rikka tames it!
-And there's not even any need to fight.
-She follows the egg back to its owner.
-And she has a little chat with the X-pets. :)

Ah, here we have the reason. It's a Dia update.

Mateo_home

11-06-2009, 08:57 PM

Quarkboy

11-06-2009, 09:32 PM

So that's what Rikka's would-be self is. An X-egg tamer.

Also the invisibility potion skit reminds me of an old cheesy edutainment math video I saw back in elementary school. And why do Ran and Su address Miki as a "He"? Oh wait, don't answer.

Because I screwed up again! If miki didn't keep acting like a guy my mind wouldn't automatically use male pronouns for him! I think I'll leave it this way however, as I can have the excuse that "Professor miki" is a male role, or otherwise in terms of the role playing they are doing the professor is a man with 2 female assistants. That's the cliche anyway, so I think it works here.

NashiiNaru

11-07-2009, 08:25 PM

The new season of Shugo Chara makes me sad.
I never had read the manga till i watched this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpa3RZX4dBI
I read most of the scans after watching two epsiodes of shugo chara party and i came to see the manga scans were different than the anime.
I kept on going and i then saw that Amu chan ad lost her 3 eggs Ran, Miki, and Suu.
I swear i almost cried so i skipped to episode 6 in the shugo chara party because im not sure if thats the latest one out or not but from all i know it is.
I still saw ran miki and suu so i was like "umm the anime is probably inaccurate!"
So can somone tell me, what the hell have i missed?
Why is ran miki and suu still there although they disappeared?
I really dont get it so can someone clear it up for me?

Other than all my complications i think the shugo chara party is a little childish with all the extras and stuff.

Quarkboy

11-07-2009, 08:27 PM

NashiiNaru

11-07-2009, 08:36 PM

Isn't that just worthless to make more episodes based on nothing?
I don't know maybe i'm just getting a little to sad 'bout it but i kinda wish that it went the way the manga had because it would make it a lot better in my impinion.

Shugo chara Doki ended with you know everyone catching an X egg, but continued in shugo chara party some transfer student came.
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Any who I'm gonna keep watching but someone's gonna have to answer my questions:

What's going on like, there is 45 chapters but SCP just started and for all i know there is no more than 45 right now and idk if there is even another volume. So is it just an OVA that will not continue or is there more coming out?

Also my second question is, do you think SCP will start to follow the manga base?

Fudce

11-07-2009, 08:38 PM

Before I actually quote your post. LEARN TO USE [SPOILER] tags.

The new season of Shugo Chara makes me sad.
I never had read the manga till i watched this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpa3RZX4dBI
I read most of the scans after watching two epsiodes of shugo chara party and i came to see the manga scans were different than the anime.
I kept on going and i then saw that Amu chan ad lost her 3 eggs Ran, Miki, and Suu.
I swear i almost cried so i skipped to episode 6 in the shugo chara party because im not sure if thats the latest one out or not but from all i know it is.
I still saw ran miki and suu so i was like "umm the anime is probably inaccurate!"
So can somone tell me, what the hell have i missed?
Why is ran miki and suu still there although they disappeared?
I really dont get it so can someone clear it up for me?

Please read the opening post to this thread, especially the line which reads:

Please do not openly discuss events in the manga that have not occured yet in the anime. This includes events that were changed in previous storyline arcs.

You should be glad that I already know of the plotline that you speak of, because if I hadn't I would be much more angry. Please go back and edit your post to use spoiler tags.

Also, remember that this is the ANIME. It is not the MANGA. Anime are adaptions not clones of the source material. The producers of Shugo Chara have decided to extend things by not having some plotlines happen at the exact same moment they have happened in the manga. That isn't to say they wont use that particular plotline, it's just it could happen much later than it did in the manga. Right now, the anime has caught up to the manga, and they're currently running a filler arc involving a girl called Rikka who speaks to X-eggs. They can't continue with the true storyline since it doesn't exist! The anime has 4 episodes a month. The manga has one chapter per month. It just can't keep up.

At the end of the day, anime and manga often differ. Cardcaptor Sakura differed greatly from the manga, and was better for it. Angelic Layer also was different, and had a different ending. Negima had an anime original conclusion, and several anime series just stopped midsentence and never continued. If you want to watch the manga, get an automatic page turner and a video camera. If you want to watch the anime, then watch the anime. Don't complain that it's not the same story as the manga.

Other than all my complications i think the shugo chara party is a little childish with all the extras and stuff.

Shugo Chara is serialised in Nakayoshi, a monthly magazine targetted towards girls aged 9-13. The anime airs at 9.30am on a Saturday morning. It's childish because it's aimed at children. I enjoy it regardless.

Fudce

11-07-2009, 08:42 PM

Any who I'm gonna keep watching but someone's gonna have to answer my questions:

What's going on like, there is 45 chapters but SCP just started and for all i know there is no more than 45 right now and idk if there is even another volume. So is it just an OVA that will not continue or is there more coming out?

Also my second question is, do you think SCP will start to follow the manga base?

There are 45 chapters, but the primary storyline of the anime (which isn't a spinoff, just a slowdown) had pretty much caught up to the manga.

Party isn't an OVA (OVAs are straight to DVD episodes) or a special. It's filler. Like the bount arc in Bleach, or all that stuff in Naruto before Shippuden started. Like it or dislike it, until there's enough manga for the story to continue, there is no story to continue.

SCP will eventually start to follow the manga (it actually has followed it slightly, with Hikaru starting at Amu's school) but give it a bit of time first.

NashiiNaru

11-07-2009, 08:49 PM

I'm very sorry about the spoiler tags!
Thank you for clearing that up for me!
But i get it now about the whole manga anime thing but i only read the manga for card captor sakura and angelic layer.

I guess i was being pissy about the openings with all the stuff loaded in it because we only get about 10-15 minutes of anime.....

Fudce

11-07-2009, 08:55 PM

I guess i was being pissy about the openings with all the stuff loaded in it because we only get about 10-15 minutes of anime.....

We really only got 20 minutes of anime in a full episode anyway, so we're not losing much. It's just that 5 minutes of the 15 we do get are the Pucchi Puchi shorts (I like them) and the remaining ten minutes isn't enough to do a propor episode. What we do get is very generic "intro, X-egg, talk, end".

It was done for marketting and financial reasons I'm sure. With real people they can sell more merchandise (the shugo battles) and CDs (lots of music throughout) to the kids. They also save production on the anime by cutting its length in half, and adding the simple animation of the PP shorts. Yeah it sucks, but that's life.

NashiiNaru

11-07-2009, 09:05 PM

The other thing that sucks is that i bet that when something really important happens we have to go through the 10 minutes and then we get to watch the continued episode of it.

It's really clever to do that merchandise live acting thing but I'm sure after a while people will get sick of it.

The thing that does interest me though is the auditions.

Fudce

11-13-2009, 08:24 PM

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It only took 2 minutes to load the video on PS3 this week... That's twice as fast as last week's effort...

Pucchi Puchi #1
-Straight into PP again?
-Kusu Kusu can't laugh...
-A miserable Kusu Kusu is quite funny! :)
-Dia is serious about hide and seek.
-And Kusu Kusu had the hiccups...

...Il and El's turn on the encyclopedia this week, complete with Utau's song!

Pucchi Puchi #2
-Time for more Shugo Bomber!
-Yoru is the bad guy!
-A sad past for Ran and Yoru...
-Ran somehow solves the problem
-And a new Shugo Bomber is created - Shugo Iron!

Dokki Doki!
-Nadeshiko is returning? Is this for real? Probably not - probably gonna take Dia's place of the tease character.
-Amu's found a poster for a performance by Nadeshiko.
-Nagihiko has a lot of explaining to do!
-Rima is fun and a bit of a tease.
-Time for Nagi to chara change, in more ways than one!
-The reunion is great, and funny. Rima is glaring.
-Until Nadeshiko introduces herself. It's scary!
-And now a chara change for real, we've not seen that for a while.
-And another change back to Nagi.
-Rima is having fun here!
-And she covers for Nagi... so sweet!
-An X-egg!
-Character Transformations... Amulet Heart! Yamato Maihime!
-Nadeshiko is stunning and incredible...
-And she's gone away again. Nagi thanks Rima.
-Rima's getting the most out of this... she's kind of evil in her own way.

Wow, no Rikka at all this week, no Hikaru either.

Two stars... :relief:

Suwako Moriya

11-16-2009, 06:06 PM

Ah, some fun with Professor Miki.

Nice to be able to get to see the owner of the X Egg this time.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens if/when Rikka's collection is discovered.

I think in general the Rikka stuff has definite potential. It just depends on how they ultimately capitalize on it.

They're going to run out of Guardians to introduce.

Fudce

11-20-2009, 08:25 PM

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Hmm, "The Miraculous Character Change"? For once, that gives no clue on the content, but the image has Amu and Tadase, so it'll likely involve Amu and Tadase.

Pucchi Puchi #1
-The chara's remove Pepe's pacifier.
-It falls into a pond.
-Dia appears and asks if it was the regular one, or the golden one.
-She gets the golden one, but wants her own one back.
-To get her own back, she drops the golden one in, and gets Dia angry at her!

All of the chara intro's are done now, so we now move the character introductions...

Pucchi Puchi #2
-Twin chara's Temari and Rhythm!
-They're in synch... without meaning to be.
-Rock paper scissors endless loop!
-Now dancing... both traditional and hip-hip.

Dokki Doki
-More mail from Ikuto...
-And chara-changes... poor Amu, being abused by Ran like that.
-And now it's Su abusing Amu into being all domestic.
-and Miki.. playing the Piano through Amu. She doesn't hold a candle to Saga of Snow Fairy Sugar though.
-And now Amu's change with Dia, Not much of a change...
-Tadase is back to telling Amu that he loves her.
-More changes...
-Rikka 'borrows' Miki.
-Heartwarming talk...
-Oji-sama!
-Rikka will be scarred for life at this rate.

bci110

11-20-2009, 08:33 PM

Pucchi Puchi #1
-The chara's remove Pepe's pacifier.
-It falls into a pond.
-Dia appears and asks if it was the regular one, or the golden one.
-She gets the golden one, but wants her own one back.
-To get her own back, she drops the golden one in, and gets Dia angry at her!

Lesson learned: It's not wise to try to trick Lady Dia :devil:!

Pucchi Puchi #2
-Twin chara's Temari and Rhythm!
-They're in synch... without meaning to be.
-Rock paper scissors endless loop!
-Now dancing... both traditional and hip-hip.

This one was really funny, and it introduced a new word in the Charaverse - Temarhythm. I had no idea that Temari had some gangsta in her and likewise Rhythm with traditional dance.

Dokki Doki
-More mail from Ikuto...
-And chara-changes... poor Amu, being abused by Ran like that.
-And now it's Su abusing Amu into being all domestic.
-and Miki.. playing the Piano through Amu. She doesn't hold a candle to Saga of Snow Fairy Sugar though.
-And now Amu's change with Dia, Not much of a change...
-Tadase is back to telling Amu that he loves her.
-More changes...
-Rikka 'borrows' Miki.
-Heartwarming talk...
-Oji-sama!
-Rikka will be scarred for life at this rate.

For pure entertainment value, I though this episode was pretty fun to watch, especially with all of the different Chara Changes and Rikka's reactions to them. As for Dia's Chara Change - well, she is the Radiant Character and she made Amu more....radiant, I suppose :sweat:. I don't know what more she could do, but I will admit that it was a tad disappointing.

Suwako Moriya

11-20-2009, 10:23 PM

Yeah, there's always the need for a rival that later becomes an ally. It also looks like Rima has found a new purpose in life.

bci110

11-21-2009, 07:28 AM

Mateo_home

11-23-2009, 08:58 AM

Everytime I see Nadeshiko, I can't help but think she's really a girl. Making me wish the identity crisis was the other way around. Ah well, she has one of the best character changes. Even if it would raise more questions for Amu, it was a shame Nadeshiko and Rima didn't use their co-op attack. Then again for one X-egg it would be overkill.

And with more Shugo Bomber!:sdsmiley: If Yoru ended up joining, I'd like to see what becomes of the other charas.

Mateo_home

11-23-2009, 09:07 AM

Both Puchi puchi were great. The best part about the first one was when Dia interrupted her sentence saying "don't throw it in on purpose." And Pepe's mouth is a mystery. The highlight of the second one was Temari and Rhythm performing each others dance together.

The episode itself was okay. I agree Dia's Character Change was a dissapointment. I was expecting for her to give a helping hand, but I suppose no one in the room needed it.

Fudce

11-27-2009, 08:25 PM

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The placeholder image had Clown Drop and Rikka, so I'd image it involves Rikka and Rima in someway...

Pucchi Puchi #1
-Ran is overhyper...
-She gets a cramp
-Dia presses one of Ran's pressure points...
-She can move again, but only slowly
-More prodding and odd effects later Ran is still stuck.
-Push all the pressure points!
-Ran Rocket!

Pucchi Puchi #2
-A new charcter? She wont laugh?
-Kusu Kusu to the rescue!
-It's a Teruterubouzu doll!
-Kusu Kusu doesn't understand that she was tricked.
-She is determined to get the doll to laugh!
-The doll laughs!
-It's dia's ventriloquism... does Amu want to be a radiant ventriloquist?

Dokki Doki!
-Really not keen on the DD opening, but the bit with the shugo and X eggs and chara's is fun. Wish they'd animate a real opening though rather than the cheapo 2d art with clips from the previous episodes...
-Rikka is hyper.
-The sky is blue.
-A tough lesson in weeding out the weak to help the strong.
-Rikka thinking to herself upsets an X-egg!
-Transformation...
-Cute Rima gets a hug!
-Open Heart!
-Embarrassed Rima is super cute!
-And she didn't Chara-change at all, surprising.

2 stars this week.

EmperorBrandon

11-28-2009, 11:28 PM

Yeah, there's always the need for a rival that later becomes an ally. It also looks like Rima has found a new purpose in life.

I thought this episode was the best I saw in Rima in a long time. Reminded me as to why I like her so much :catgirl:.

Oh yeah, this has got to be one of my favorites of Dokki Doki so far for that reason mostly (two before it were a little uninteresting to me, so this was nice). Her teasing of Nagihikodeshiko was a lot of fun. Nadeshiko her... err... himself was pretty cool too, though. :)

EmperorBrandon

11-29-2009, 12:05 AM

This one was really funny, and it introduced a new word in the Charaverse - Temarhythm. I had no idea that Temari had some gangsta in her and likewise Rhythm with traditional dance.

Haha, I was wondering when we'd see some of Temari and Rhythm in Pucchi Puchi, and that bit was hilarious. Loved it.

EmperorBrandon

11-29-2009, 01:54 AM

-Cute Rima gets a hug!
-Embarrassed Rima is super cute!

Rima :beatingheart: Nice that Rikka gets to see how sweet Rima can be. She's still so awesome.

Fudce

12-04-2009, 09:46 PM

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Watching a bit later than usual - got distrated!

Pucchi Puchi #1
-Yoru playing pranks.
-Wait, don't guardian characters fly? How could Ran fall into a hole?
-He destroys his egg.
-They repair it...

Pucchi Puchi #2
-Ghost?
-It's Temari!
-Ran and Su are scared.
-Miki is putting on a brave face.
-Dia is smiling through it all.
-El was the ghost. She's lost.

Dokki Doki
-Tadase & Kukai are talking.
-Amu's charas (and Amu) eavesdrop.
-They're talking about love? Is Tadase cheating on Amu?
-The chara's go on a mission to find the girl.
-They find her, and she's pretty cute.
-Amu gets a phone call from her own man-on-the-side.
-Ikuto wants to console her, hug her, kiss her, and everything...
-X egg!
-Heart again. Seriously, does Amu have something againt her most powerful chara?
-Amu feels sorry for the egg!
-It's the egg of the person he rejected probably.
-Ah, Tadase was again talking about a dog.
-and again Tadase attacks Amu with his killer line.

Three stars!

And we have our Diamond. She fits right in with Shugo Chara Egg.

Mateo_home

12-05-2009, 12:24 PM

The first Puchi Puchi short was weird, but I shouldn't be thinking that deep for these. For the second one for some reason I love how Temari's hair was animated when she tilts her head.

And for the episode, Hikaru? I forgot about him. Despite being the usual misunderstanding of love, it was a good episode. Not surprised the person Tadase was referring to was a dog. The big surprise for me and what made this episode was Ikuto. And by that I mean getting Yuuichi Nakamura into the studio to say a few lines. That and Amu sympathizing with the X egg. I felt a little sorry for her when she got teary eyed.

Suwako Moriya

12-09-2009, 03:14 AM

We see the negative side to the whole lady in the lake scenario.

The challenge of trying to be "twins". Too bad they forgot about "opposites" route.

Character changing is fun. Would have been nice to get a bit more out of Dia.

Suwako Moriya

12-09-2009, 03:18 AM

Clearly touching Ran's pressure points is important.

Kusu Kusu is a determined one.

Rima clearly needed a hug.

Fudce

12-11-2009, 08:41 PM

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The last few weeks have been bad, but this week is simply taking the piss. Over fifteen minutes and several tries later, I've given up trying to get it to load on the PS3. Whatever they changed to make their website look more hip buggered up the streaming, and even on PC it looks crap.

Pucchi Puchi #1
-Mountain climbing with Kiseki...
-He's the King! (well duh)
-Echo's...
-More echo's...
-Il! and El! Love!
-Mountain envy...
-The mountains move for El, they love her!

Pucchi Puchi #2
-More Shugo Bomber...
-The base is gone, and Dia is hurt?
-Base power up.. Miki chara change...
-She's now the scientist. Ran is alone in wondering what is going on.

Dokki Doki
Hikaru receives a gift and is taught the lesson that gifts are special. Rikka is Rikka, Amu is Amu.

Suwako Moriya

12-19-2009, 02:36 AM

Forget X Eggs, Crows are the real enemy. That's what I learned from this episode. Also, darn it, character transform with Dia!

Quarkboy

12-19-2009, 05:33 AM

Suwako Moriya

12-19-2009, 05:58 AM

Forget X Eggs, Crows are the real enemy. That's what I learned from this episode. Also, darn it, character transform with Dia!

You know that can only happen in episodes that are multiples of 13 (approximately), right?

It's a rule.

Well, in that case they need to break that rule. Then again this is Shugo Chara we're talking about here. It takes a while for things to truly start happening. Heck, I'm quite if Amu does discover Rikka's family of X Eggs, it won't be until 23 episodes from now at least.

On another note, sooner or later they're going to run out of characters to introduce. Well, I guess they could introduce every single character that got involved in ?-Egg stuff. Maybe also introduce generic background characters with no name.

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12-19-2009, 06:10 AM

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A two part Pucchi Puchi this week, all to do with Christmas and Yoru's playing tricks. It's fun, but forgettable.

As for the main episode, it's an Ami special - as in there's Amu, Ami, and a brief appearance by Hikaru. It has a few good moments, but in the end it's Amu and Ami, so it can't be all that good.

Fudce

12-26-2009, 03:55 AM

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PP1
Guardian Character Selling Channel fun, with Pepe, Kusukusu, and Rhythm today. Rhythm can really annoy Pepe it seems... :)

PP2
Dia is giving advice to a conflicted Miki this episode, very noble spiritual advice it seems, until Ran translates and it's very simple bad advice! ;)

Dokki Doki
A girl has lost her egg, they go to look for it, they find it, Amu heals it, and the egg returns.

Suwako Moriya

12-26-2009, 06:54 AM

My main thought while watching them introduce Rikka and Hikaru was "Ah, so those two finally got enough screen time?"

Quarkboy

12-26-2009, 09:25 AM

Suwako Moriya

12-26-2009, 09:36 AM

My main thought while watching them introduce Rikka and Hikaru was "Ah, so those two finally got enough screen time?"You'll never guess who they start introducing next week... Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel...

Every character that got X-Egged? Every character that got ?-Egged? Nameless background characters?

Quarkboy

12-26-2009, 10:44 AM

Suwako Moriya

12-27-2009, 02:01 AM

Every character that got X-Egged? Every character that got ?-Egged? Nameless background characters?Those people don't even HAVE names most of the time :)...

Even so they could always give them random names at the last second. Even if that means eventually going "Here's the 17th person that happens to be named...."

Or they could be like "Here's whoever the heck that was. Not like we care, we just want you to hear the background song while looking at clips".

Heck, for all I know they might recycle introductions over time.

bci110

12-27-2009, 01:34 PM

Mateo_home

12-27-2009, 04:44 PM

It's not a good idea to put this on the back burner. With the Open Heart game, I still can't tell if it's scripted or it's said right on the spot. I'm starting find it fun, sadly. With the main episode, the only fun part was when Rikka convinces Dia to not go up to her room.

You'll never guess who they start introducing next week... Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel...

Let's see: Lulu? Nana? Amu's parents? Ami? X-Dia? A Volt Tackle Pichu? Hey, it's possible someone's Guardian Character egg could be a simple Pokemon egg. Most likely Mikoto Misaka.

bci110

12-27-2009, 05:25 PM

You'll never guess who they start introducing next week... Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel...

Saaya? Oh please not her. Anybody BUT her...:sweat:

Let's see: Lulu? Nana? Amu's parents? Ami? X-Dia? A Volt Tackle Pichu? Hey, it's possible someone's Guardian Character egg could be a simple Pokemon egg. Most likely Mikoto Misaka.

Introducing Lulu and Nana-chan is not scraping the bottom of the barrel. Amu's family, however....:devil:

Fudce

12-27-2009, 05:43 PM

Dokki Doki
A girl has lost her egg, they go to look for it, they find it, Amu heals it, and the egg returns.

Mi looked pretty cute. Are you going to display a couple of avatars of her later today, please :sweat:?

Unfortunatly not - I rarely do episode characters for Shugo Chara unless they really grab me.

Mateo_home

12-27-2009, 06:21 PM

You'll never guess who they start introducing next week... Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel...

Saaya? Oh please not her. Anybody BUT her...:sweat:

Oh yeah, I forgot about her. Now that is about as low as you can get. For Lulu and Nana they just came to mind. Though Amu's mother isn't too bad.

Fudce

01-08-2010, 08:27 PM

Wow, you weren't kidding when you said scraping the barrel Quarkboy...

The two Pucchi Puchi episodes were fun. Well, the second was - the first was pretty meh. First calligraphy and fun with kotatsu's are the order of the day it seems.

The encyclopedia looked at X-Dia and Snoppe...

And the actual episode itself...? Pretty decent. Rikka encounters her first X-Chara, but Amu saves the day with Amulet Clover and a five-guardian transformation. Rikka learns something about herself and the X-eggs that she didn't know before. Hopefully they're leading up to something, but I don't even think they know what yet.

Quarkboy

01-09-2010, 12:07 AM

Fudce

01-15-2010, 08:41 PM

We learn all about love and happy things in Pucchi Puchi today. I bow down to the love-queen El, and the princess of all things happiness, Dia. :)

In the episode, Rikka and Hikaru get into a fight and Rikka sulks. X egg appears, she doesn't help, until Amu starts to reminisce about how she used to be worried about what the X-egg felt, and then she does help Amu out.

And at the end... she gets her own egg! It's yellow has a little sun on it too. Really perfect for Rikka.

Suwako Moriya

01-15-2010, 09:21 PM

Suwako Moriya

01-16-2010, 11:55 PM

The encyclopedia looked at X-Dia and Snoppe...

Well, that makes it easy to assume we'll see the other ones as well.

Rikka encounters her first X-Chara, but Amu saves the day with Amulet Clover and a five-guardian transformation.

Nice to see Amulet Clover. Still bitter about the lack of Amulet Diamond and I'll keep being bitter because I feel like it.

Rikka's actions during the part she was effected by the X character were interesting. Since it was quite clear she start feeling what the X character was feeling.

Rikka learns something about herself and the X-eggs that she didn't know before. Hopefully they're leading up to something, but I don't even think they know what yet.

Whatever they may be leading up to, I hope this time around the gaps between progress will be shorter.

Mateo_home

01-17-2010, 01:21 PM

And at the end... she gets her own egg! It's yellow has a little sun on it too. Really perfect for Rikka.

Ah, that's nice to hear. Here's hoping it won't take too long to hatch into a character and start interacting with people. And I mean as a regular character. I'm not sure I want another X Dia. I wonder how Rikka's egg will react to the X Eggs that she's been keeping.

*snooze*
*bubble pops*

Huh? Whaa? Progression is getting made? At first I thought Rikka's egg had a paw print. I hope her name isn't "Sunny", and she's introduced in the next episode or two rather than have another prolong Rhythm. Chances are we'll probably see her at the end of this cour.

As for this episode as a whole, nothing special, but I love Rikka's energy. Also they should ditch the character encyclopedia if all the main and supporting characters have been reintroduced.

Quarkboy

01-17-2010, 01:45 PM

[quote=Fudce;1710360]And at the end... she gets her own egg! It's yellow has a little sun on it too. Really perfect for Rikka.
As for this episode as a whole, nothing special, but I love Rikka's energy. Also they should ditch the character encyclopedia if all the main and supporting characters have been reintroduced.

Ah, but that would require them to fill another 2 minutes of airtime with something... And it's not like they have the budget for any actual animation...

So far there are only 2 plot points that are more than 1 episode long:
Rikka's X eggs/getting her own egg/guardian
Graduation approaching
(I don't think they're allowed to do the Nadeshiko/Nagihiko reveal until it is done in the manga, as so far although Doki Doki re-arranged things and extended timelines, it didn't change any of the main manga plot points)

It would make no sense to resolve either of them before the climax of the show around ep 23-25...

Fudce

01-22-2010, 08:27 PM

They've apparantly fixed the player for the PS3... It seems the 30 second wait for the video to actually start remains but it's defintly started!

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually prefer the first SGP opening to the second one. I skipped past it the last few week, but am watching this week.

PP1
Ran's grilling some Mochi, it inflates, and takes off.
Su's grilling some Mochi, it inflates, and she draws a face with some nori.
Miki has no mochi.
Word puns with Dia.
Dia has mochi.
Now all four eat mochi.

Encyclopedia for Nana (I can't believe that the episodic chara's were ahead of her) and Cecil (I liked her owner more though)

Shugo Chara Nail Art? Let me guess, are they gonna release some Shugo Chara Nail Art merchandise soon?

PP2
Temari's in a slump.
Dia and Ran appear to give advice.
Temari... iamge change!
Temari the rock chick! I approve. :P

More nail art...

Dokki Doki
Rikka's imaptient for it to hatch.
Rikka's showing everybody her egg.
Rikka's energetic and happy.
Yaya's really grown up recently.
Some kids talk bad about the Guardians.
Rikka is depressed. X egg.
Merry Merry, it works, but it doesn't.
Amu talks it down, and Rikka is no longer depressed.
Two mean kids again, Amu goes to tell them off, but Rikka beats her too it.
Only guardians may clean rubbish, so there!

Cute, but relatively pointless fun.

Suwako Moriya

01-24-2010, 01:09 AM

Hikaru is never going to grow up to be a motivational speaker is he?

As wrong as it may sound, one thing that stands out about Rikka is her zettai ryouiki. I wonder if she'll keep it when she gets older.

Nice that she has a guardian egg. Hopefully it will become a character as well.

Fudce

01-29-2010, 08:33 PM

PP1
-More from Miki's Lab
-She's created a remote control...
-..for Yoru!
-FAIL
-Sucees but slow.

"Buy Nakayoshi" segment.

PP2
-Climbing a rainbow with Su and Temari
-Sliding down the rainbow with Su and Temari

Dokki Doki
-Hikaru is confused by horizontal bars.
-Amu fails at horizontal bars.
-X egg
-The egg heard Amu's negativity.
-Failing Amu is cute.
-Amu succeds, and heals the egg.
-Hikaru learns his lesson.
-Hikaru is happy.

Mateo_home

01-31-2010, 04:37 PM

For the second Puchi Puchi when Su and Temari were riding the Rainbow slide and how it formed loops, I thought to myself that would look more fun if they were driving go-karts on it. But who gives a damn.

For the main course, I noticed Amu can be quite the hypocrite. At least she proved that you don't need magic to show what anyone is capable of doing. She must've been inspired by Ichigo and Vanilla. And look Hikaru doesn't understand why he's spinning on the bar, but he's enjoying it.

Well at least they replaced the character introduction segment with something new.

Fudce

02-05-2010, 08:37 PM

PP1
More Shugo Bomber
Kiseki is the villain
Su isn't really the commisioner, she's the legendary fighter, Shugo Legend!
To be continued.

Encyclopedia is moving onto transformations today. Wait, shouldn't the second transformation be Spade not Clover? Miki is denied her true heritage!

PP2
Even more Shugo Bomber
Final episode
Final attack
The end...?

A picnic? What could happen? What could happen? My guess is an X-egg appears and after trying to reason with it Rikka learns a valuable life lesson before Amu heals it. Let me see if I was right.

Dokki Doki
They're in the hills.
Hikaru is in a cute outfit.
Rikka's parents are crazy, but I love her Dad's beard!
Wait, I recognise her Mom's voice
Wow, Hikaru's having fun?
They're tired, and her mom's voice is madly familiar... Kikuko Inoue?
Hikaru is introduced to riceballs.
Rain...
Whoever she is, I want to hear her sing that magic spell...
Hikaru backstory...

Wow, I was wrong! somewhat enjoyable backstory filler for a change. :)

I might have been wrong, but at least I got 4 stars this week!

And checking the credits... Kikuko Inoue. I was right!

Fudce

02-13-2010, 06:50 AM

PP1
Detective El?
puns... (good adapting there Quark!)

Oooh, Kanae Itou is the guest today. She's really cute!

PP2
Dia..
She's found a sprout.
She cares for it, and it shows her a great view when it grows.
Il hurts it. Dia scares her away.
Happy tree!
...and it was all a dream.

Dokki Doki
...Utau's in this one? Hurray!
Very cute outfit!
suddenly, Kukai, an Ramen
Tsudere Utau!
Mean producer...
X-egg, no... X-chara!
Amulet Heart (cmon, when will we see Amulet Dia again!?)
Lunatic Charm!
Happy Utau.
Wow, that really is a different sound from Nana Mizuki there.

Quarkboy

02-13-2010, 07:04 AM

PP1
Detective El?
puns... (good adapting there Quark!)

I spent more time translating those 5 minutes than the rest of the episode combined.

Well, not really translating so much as writing in this case, I suppose.

The Great Bear

02-13-2010, 07:29 AM

Dokki Doki
...Utau's in this one? Hurray!
…
Tsudere Utau!
…
Wow, that really is a different sound from Nana Mizuki there.

I might actually have to watch this one.

Suwako Moriya

02-13-2010, 02:24 PM

Amulet Heart (cmon, when will we see Amulet Dia again!?)

My guess is maybe once near the end of this third series and we'll see her for maybe two seconds. Make sure not to blink.

Suwako Moriya

02-16-2010, 02:49 AM

In this episode, there's lots of spinning. More research must be done.

Suwako Moriya

02-16-2010, 03:27 AM

So we get one of those final attacks where the others become weapons.

You forgot Amulet Spade!

They're trying to get a lot of mileage out of Hikaru's lack of understanding.

Pairing of Hikaru and Rikka continues.

Nice to have a break from the X Egg stuff.

Speaking of which, aside from the occasional need to be a therapist, there hasn't been much danger since Easter was "dealt" with.

So I get the feeling something bad will happen in regards to Rikka eventually, but she'll get better.

Fudce

02-19-2010, 08:46 PM

The title has me expecting the most obvious plot twist. But I have to get through the two Puchi's first...

PP1
They're discussing X-Dia.
What would happen if they had an X on them? They experiment!
Lazy Ran.
Self-obsessed Miki.
Sloppy and bad at cooking Su.
...I miss X-dia!

PP2
More from Miki's lab.
Ran is her ass-
Pepe's lab?
She's invented a characopier.
Lots of Charas!

Dokki Doki
Rikka is copying Amu. She looks.... strange.
Rikka fails at being Amu.
Be quiet Kiseki. The sane people are talking.
Depressed Rikka.. I would wonder what was coming next but it's both obvious and has already been told us.
Her egg is X-ed.
She's still herself... it seems she's like Amu in that respect rather than every other character in the entire series. (plot armour)
Her egg is mixed up in the X-egg swarm.
Heartwarming pep-talk from Amu.
She realises who she wants to be and her egg reveals itself.
And it hatches... Hotaru! She's cute and happy and has a tail...
I wonder who the seiyuu is.

Quarkboy

02-19-2010, 09:43 PM

I wonder who the seiyuu is.

Same seiyuu as Lamina from episodes 36-37...

Fudce

02-19-2010, 09:51 PM

I wonder who the seiyuu is.

Same seiyuu as Lamina from episodes 36-37...

The same as Ramira? (That's the spelling that Wiki and ANN are using at least)

That'd make her Satomi Satou, or to put it another way, "I knew her voice sounded familiar" (Ritsu Tainaka from K-On)

Mateo_home

02-21-2010, 09:35 PM

She's still herself... it seems she's like Amu in that respect rather than every other character in the entire series. (plot armour)

Amu on the other hand had three other eggs to back it up. I was shocked that Rikka was still herself afterwards. The way it wrapped up was a good twist. I was expecting X-egg shows up, causes havoc, Amu talks to it and Open Hearts it, and lesson learned. Hotaru is cute. I was going to say her tail reminds me of Aipom, but it reminds me of a lion for some reason.

Now I can't wait for the next episode. Been wondering when I would finally say that this season.:P

Suwako Moriya

02-22-2010, 12:41 AM

And it hatches... Hotaru! She's cute and happy and has a tail...

Ah, so it finally happened. Definitely an episode to look forward to later. Same for the next one, assuming that the others get to meet Hotaru.

Still waiting for the dramatic moment where Amu finds out about the X Eggs that Rikka has been keeping. Speaking of which, compared to some of the other X Eggs, those ones seem to be a bit calmer. At least in the episodes I've seen so far.

Fudce

02-26-2010, 08:37 PM

Let us go and meet Hotaru and see just how strange she is, but first...

PP1
Shugo Chara Love Theatre?
It's just a ploy to sell Kiseki's rod.
...more acting...
Yoru doesn't have a scythe... It was mysterious black egg that had the scythe

PP2
Ghost Stories.
Ran's been posessed by a stange spirit.
Su next!
Then Miki. This is kind of catchy
Finally Dia.
Oh god... I really really feel sorry for you Quarkboy... just what the frick did you have to type that during this bit? It made no sense but was ultimately readable? I'm laughing!

Aha, finally we get to meet Hotaru (lets hope she's interesting)

Dokki Doki
-It's interesting to think that 19 episodes ago we were told that it was nearly spring and Amu would soon leave the school.
-Hotaru is very polite and well spoken...?
-She's definitly not the "what I already am" type, she's similar to Amu's "what I want to be" characters...
-Wow, her tail is warm too.. I can see them getting a lot of use out of that in Pucchi Puchi.
-Rikka's gonna be made a full guardian next year.
-She's very nervous about her big moment on stage.
-Chara Change!
-Wow, a calm Rikka is odd.. and she gets two sun-symbols on her buns.
-Rikka's making a mess of her announcement, but Hotaru is standing back being calm.
-She's totally talking to herself - or that's what the audience is seeing!
-It's OK to be a clutz, just learn from the mistakes and make your clumsiness your treasure. I like Hotaru already.
-Aw, Hikaru made a kind gesture.. he gave Rikka a pretty stone to congratulate her.

Well that was nice. Hotaru is warm and calm, and nice. Now time to waste more episodes before she learns to transform...

*checks credits*

Woah! Hotaru really is Satomi Satou. She sounds so much different to Ritsu it's scary. I recognised her voice last week but I wouldn't have called that one.

Suwako Moriya

02-27-2010, 12:30 AM

So we get sun symbols and Hotaru has definite potential. I wonder if we'll get a character transformation eventually.

Quarkboy

02-27-2010, 12:54 AM

Let us go and meet Hotaru and see just how strange she is, but first...

Oh god... I really really feel sorry for you Quarkboy... just what the frick did you have to type that during this bit? It made no sense but was ultimately readable? I'm laughing!

Well I didn't _have_ to, but for the final "performance" I figured people might want to sing along so I typed up exactly the syllables.

The script for this portion was painstakingly exact, describing the timing exactly, so it wasn't that big a deal. (I was also curious about Crunchyroll's subtitle engine's limitations :) ).

Mateo_home

02-27-2010, 09:14 PM

Yoru doesn't have a scythe... It was mysterious black egg that had the scythe

Perhaps it sells better than Wolverine claws?

Now I remember where the name Hotaru sounds familiar. Hotaru Futaba. But she's nothing like her. It's amazing she acts nothing like Rikka. Sort of more like Dia. Also Hotaru makes a great portable heater. The twin sun buns makes a good character change icon. Wonder if she'll have a character transformation. Does she need the assistance of the lock or key, or was that plot device dropped sometime ago?

Fudce

03-05-2010, 08:21 PM

Watching this on my PC this week since I don't want to stop my Star Ocean save and lose my battle board...

PP1
Trouble making Il...
Flower arrangement with Temari...
Haiku with Temari...
Tea Ceremony with Temari...
Angry Temari!

PP2
Miki's bored.
I'm bored.
Ran suggests an afternoon nap (not very Ran like?)
They go outside and get distracted...
Wow, serious about sleep.
...and thinking about that tap Su's gonna need the loo soon.

I'm really getting sick of the Live Action types spoiling what's going to happen prior to each episode...

Dokki Doki
Hmm, Hotaru seems distracted by the X-eggs?
Oh god, that weird dance from Pucchi Puchi is catching... not gonna do the lyrics this week Quark? :P
Hikaru doesn't laugh... this is gonna be another 'life lesson' episode then?
Hikaru owns the amusement park.
...fun memories... (with Tadase or Ikuto?)
Hotaru is afraid of heights... so cute!
Fun is serious business!
I suddenly get the feeling that Hikaru would get on well with Hotaru from Gakuen Alice
He laughed...
Amu's only really in this as a matchmaker, right?

Suwako Moriya

03-05-2010, 08:26 PM

I'm really getting sick of the Live Action types spoiling what's going to happen prior to each episode...

That just gives more reason to either minimize while they're on or skip forward past them.

Fudce

03-13-2010, 07:24 AM

Back on PS3 again, and a bit later than I usually watch it since I was completely knackered after a long day that started at 6.30am UK time (Shugo airs at 2am for me)

PP1
-Ran's late... it's that scene we always see at the start of an anime series!
-Yeah, it's yet another pointless playacting thing.
-Miki's some punk, Su's an alien, what's Dia?
-Kiseki's last? He's a foreigner with a big nose!
-Wow, this is getting old fast. Now it's a giant Dia.
-Even the cloud is getting tired of it.
-The joke was late even before it started, and I don't mean the punctual form.

PP2
-Shugo Teatime Theatre...
-Seconds!
-Kiseki can't get seconds...
-He gets seconds...
-He's fat.
-*yawn*

Dokki Doki
-Rikka and Hotaru are playing, and the X-eggs are getting a bit upset...
-Yeah, I can't see where this is going. The eggs are jealous and there will be trouble!
-It's almost time for graduation... they should have gone way beyond graduation by now.
-It seems that Hikaru plans to lead the guardians - will he be a new King's chair? Will that make Rikka the queen? She can't be another Joker. What about the X-chair!?
-Speaking of X-eggs, they fail at helping Rikka at home, but at least they're bringing Rikka's bag to her.
-They fail!
-Hikaru is suspicious...
-Rikka gets the eggs upset, and bad things... they're about to happen!
-Hikaru sees her, and he runs to get Amu!
-This is gonna end on a cliffhanger, isn't it?
-The eggs ran away, except one that spontaneously self destructed...
-and the end? That wasn't even a cliffhanger, it was just a stop.

Suwako Moriya

03-13-2010, 11:06 AM

That first segment gave new meaning to the idea of a running gag. Imagine if they had Ran run into every single other guardian.:sweat:

Even I could tell that serious stuff happened during the actual anime segment. Well, at least I have a better idea of exactly what. I'm going to guess that at least the next three episodes will be dedicated to Amu dealing with the eggs of Rikka. Possibly more due to time being taken away for other segments.

Damius

03-13-2010, 02:01 PM

That first segment gave new meaning to the idea of a running gag. Imagine if they had Ran run into every single other guardian.:sweat:

Each week, a different guardian character will replace Ran...

Even I could tell that serious stuff happened during the actual anime segment. Well, at least I have a better idea of exactly what. I'm going to guess that at least the next three episodes will be dedicated to Amu dealing with the eggs of Rikka. Possibly more due to time being taken away for other segments.

Just when I get into the episode, it ends... This is way to short...

Suwako Moriya

03-13-2010, 02:05 PM

Just when I get into the episode, it ends... This is way to short...

It's episodes like this that show the flaw in the format. As it either leads to things ending too early or getting a rushed version.

Quarkboy

03-13-2010, 06:49 PM

I think this episode is where Pucchi Puchi finally ran out of ideas.

That Shugo Teatime theater segment was... really bad.

I mean, _I_ could write something more amusing than that.

Fudce

03-19-2010, 09:34 PM

The second half of what should have been a full episode last week... Seriously they should have just gone for a full episode if they weren't even going to try to bring it to either a true cliffhanger or a conclusion...

PP1
-Ran's found a button.
-"Switch"? It looks more like a button.
-Ran presses it, it seems to be a time-stopper.
-Ran gets up to mischief
-Ran gets lonely.

Two at a time for four transformation intros? Are they nearly out of time or something?

PP2
-..another TV show? they're really running out of ideas.
-X-egging the cast of Shugo Chara by Pepe.

Dokki Doki
-...aaaand they've given away the plot beforehand YET AGAIN.
-It's just struck me watching the OP that we've not seen Amulet Dia at all in Party - it's not as if Dia is in her egg.
-X-egg swarm.
-Rikka explains everything.
-Kamikaze X-eggs spreading sadness by suiciding?
-And just like that, Amulet Dia.
-Amulet Diamond doesn't work either - they still breaking.
-Rikka tries Amu's talk-attack, but ends up doing the Rikka charge.
-As ever, tears are magical and solve everything!
-Rikka's Heart - Unlock.
-Character Transformation: Pure Feeling!
-She looks almost like a mini-Amulet Dia but with sunshine eminating from her! It's cute.
-And here's the Dia/Feeling combo Open Heart? Does Rikka have the power too?
-It seems the combo fixes broken eggs. I see a future plotline ahead of us.
-Hehe, the heart eggs do the X-egg "impossible" line. That bit seriously did get a laugh from me.
-There appears to be a cat in Amu's bed. Well, a catboy.

Well that was nice. I enjoyed it more than I expected. Pure Feeling is cute but we don't know what she can do until they take ten episodes explaining every possible reasoning for her powers. Also, I don't like the idea of waiting another 13 or 26 episodes for another Amulet Dia appearance.

Kymora

03-20-2010, 01:40 AM

I've been following this thread for a while and I finally have something to say! :D
I actually liked the Dokki Doki portion of this episode to some degree. When Amu grabbed Rikka off the floor, Rikka looked like a goldfish! Hahah. And Rikka really does look like a mini Dia -except Rikka's outfit has a midriff, which surprised me. The purified X-eggs were cute. And woo. That boy's back.

Mateo_home

03-20-2010, 08:04 PM

This was great. I agree this should've been a full episode. I was a little saddened by Rikka's crying outburst. Happy that Amu knocked sense into her by shaking her a bit rather than the expected slap in the face. I've been wanting to say this in the Railgun thread but if I was uncontrollably crying and got slapped I'd probably continue. Back on topic the first sign this is in fact a special episode becuase Amu transforms as Jirachi er... I mean Amulet Dia. And again, OT but after reading vol. 8, do they have any intention of casually asking what Dia's real name is? Back on track Rikka's character transformation as Chibi Dia...or Pure Feeling (goddammit I can't focus) was great it involved a co-op attack that didn't involve Amulet Heart. Even as purified eggs they still say to Rikka it's impossible as a joke.:bigsmile: Also if her story arc is over she better not move or transfer schools in the next episode.

Fun way to end the episode. Catboy has a unique way of welcoming himself back home. See, he's not lame.:P

Fudce

03-26-2010, 09:25 PM

Here we go...

PP1
-Things Amu like to eat?
-Amu's in Pucchi Puchi?
-Amu's screw-ups...?
-Amu's getting angry :)
-And they can't think of anything good about Amu

So predictable, but funny somehow. :)

PP2
-The first wind of spring...
-Many things are blown by
-Su loses her clover? Poor su, she looks so naked.
-They look for it, then smile a lot
-The End? Is this the last Pucchi Puchi or something?

Dokki Doki
-Ah yes,the Ikuto shaped lump.
-Wow, Amu's mom let him in - Ikuto wouldn't betray her trust etc...
-I'd forgotten just how awesome Ikuto was when it came to making Amu blush.
-Ikuto's joined an Orchestra - like him they have no fixed destination.
-..and he's gone.
-Some Tadase x Amu moments too...
-Rikka becomes the new Queen's Chair and receives her cape.
-it looks good on her.
-Hikaru has an egg too. He just didn't want to say until asked. :)
-He's become a wiseguy, like Ikuto.
-Touching moments, and a group photo.

-and an "after the end" sort of scene, Amu and the guardians, Kukai, Kairi, Utau... Ikuto in France, even Lulu... they're milking this one.

-And that's why. THE END

THE VERY END

I think that's all folks, the Party is over, and unless they do a Shugo Chara: The Next Generation then the series complete is over.

I'm sort of sad, but sort of glad. The series was long since over for a lot anyway, and it was treading water before this inevitable epsode.

Fencedude

03-26-2010, 09:27 PM

Whoa, Party was only 2 cour?

And yet they still managed to run it into the ground.

Fudce

03-26-2010, 09:34 PM

Shugo fell into the common trap of trying to make a series longer than it should be. The way they extended the original series wasn't terrible and I enjoyed a lot of the Season 1 filler, but they really found themselves dragging themselves too slowly through SC:Doki.

I'd have still kept the ?-egg arc, but shortened it, and had the end of the Easter Battle much sooner.

The same with the story with Rikka. It was a good idea, passing the torch to the next generation, but it wasn't executed well. It felt like it was just tacked on to the end of the story and prolonged. The 25 episodes must have been the longest few weeks in "in-anime-time" ever. (When we started SCP there were only a few weeks to go until graduation, yet they seem to have found at least 10 weekends to do things in)

Quarkboy

03-26-2010, 09:34 PM

Fudce

03-26-2010, 09:41 PM

Whoa, Party was only 2 cour?

And yet they still managed to run it into the ground.

When I called Party the last dying gasp of Shugo Chara, I think you know what I meant now.

To give you an idea: I had finalized scripts for all 25 episodes like... 3 months ago.

You'd think that if they finalised it 3 months ago then they could have made the run to the ending with more flow.

Suwako Moriya

03-26-2010, 10:10 PM

So let me see if I got this straight, we got a single cour series stretched out to two by padding it with other things?

Also, I'm still bitter about there not being enough Dia.

I think Shugo's Chara biggest problem is along the lines of "All right, we took another few inches forward time for another seven year nap".

Mateo_home

03-30-2010, 10:44 AM

When Tadase went into King rampage, I loved how Amu laughed thinking along the lines "You know what, I'm used to it."

Wasn't expecting this show to end so soon. But I'm relieved. I can see that the show was put on life support so it could be milked for all it's worth. For what I thought of the series as a whole, the first season was the best, Doki was almost up to par and I agree it should've been shorter (like 2 cour). Party I'm now tending to view more as "bonus" episodes rather than filler. I would have been satisfied if it ended at 102 episodes. So yeah, for those that stopped watching at the first season, I'd say continue and finish up through Doki and ignore Party.

For the lack of Dia, this is the way I see it and why I go with the Pokemon analogy comparing her to Jiarchi. It's one of those Pokemon you can't obtain normally, and because of that is what makes it special. So if Amu chara transformed with Dia more frequently she wouldn't be "special" anymore, now would she? Of course there's Amulet Fortune, but my guess is Amu's max MP isn't high enough to tribute.

That's right. Dia's real name is one of the seven mysteries of Shugo Chara! that most likely won't be solved. There's also Hikaru's chara and...oh poo I can only come up with two.:P