Seitokai no Ichizon Discussion Thread

[Suwako Moriya]

Well, I'm feeling bored enough, so I may as well make the thread for this series.

ANN Entry (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=10587)



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[Suwako Moriya]

I'll have to give it a re-watch later to be sure, but it looks like this might have some potential as one of those shows that you watch on the side as it were.

[Nork22]

I'm pausing this to say, what the heck... They certainly broke the 4th wall at the start, and love all the parodies and silly ideas on essentially what to call the title of the show.

[angelx03]

Wow, what a way to effectively destroy the 4th wall at the start of the episode!

Considering Studio DEEN is working on this, I expect blatant Marimite references VERY soon. :bigsmile:

[Nork22]

Wow, what a way to effectively destroy the 4th wall at the start of the episode!

Considering Studio DEEN is working on this, I expect blatant Marimite references VERY soon. :bigsmile:

Need more Higurashi and Umineko references too. And for the heck of it, some Type-Moon as well.

[jlazar]

Wow, what a way to effectively destroy the 4th wall at the start of the episode!

Considering Studio DEEN is working on this, I expect blatant Marimite references VERY soon. :bigsmile:

Need more Higurashi and Umineko references too. And for the heck of it, some Type-Moon as well.

I see the student council forming a light music band at some point... :)

Seems like a fun little series so far. First of my 'maybe watch' series to become a 'yes, watch' series this season.

[musouka]

Considering Studio DEEN is working on this, I expect blatant Marimite references VERY soon. :bigsmile:

Soon as in, "the next ep"? (http://i37.tinypic.com/2d7xyqt.jpg)

I'll probably give this series a pass, though. Too much of a struggle to get past the first ep alone.

[Suwako Moriya]

Considering Studio DEEN is working on this, I expect blatant Marimite references VERY soon. :bigsmile:Soon as in, "the next ep"? (http://i37.tinypic.com/2d7xyqt.jpg)

Heh, that's either a sign of having their priorities straight or their priorities screwed up. One or the other. Speaking of the preview, I'm interested in the scene where Kurimu's eyes go blank. Which probably means I'm a bad person.

[tadakichi]

There were some pretty good laughs in this episode, but... I don't know. Sugisaki's harem obsession got old fast, and the non-comedic parts really fell flat. None of the characters really appealed to me, and the episode was visually uninteresting even for a Deen show. It didn't lead me to actively dislike it, but I've got enough shows with more potential in my backlog that I'm not going to bother with this one. Neat premise, poor execution.

[Suwako Moriya]

It's nice to know that for once the adaption admits to changing things.

Heh, I think he needs a different strategy if he wants to go down the harem route.

To be honest, I'm hoping that the next episode will be a bit less reliant on referencing other series.

At least we're informed of the difficulty level of the girls.

[Mitsuki]

The harem thing did get old fast, though the fourth-wall-breaking stuff was pretty funny. I may hold out for another episode to see where they go next - it has the potential to get better but it also has the potential to get worse.

[something]

Episode 1:

- Haha, the opening scene is great. "How do you spell yuuutsu?" XD
- Was that Tamura Yukari? :sd: So the male lead openly plays eroge in the student council room. Awesome.
- USO DA. Time to see how many references they can jam into one show, heh.
- Heh, Ken is pretty awesome so far.
- I sort of feel like Kurimu's Honda Mariko kinda sounds like a successor to Momoi Haruko. And I'm liking that.
- Oh god Kurimu is cute. And Chizuru wants to plump her up and have her way with her >_>
- Choco Cornet!
- Poor Kurimu. :sd: Nothing wrong with flat!
- Mmm, a zettai ryouiki wedding dress.
- Light music club castanets =D
- And a cute ED.

That was stupid, and awesome. Definitely watching this one.

[HitokiriShadow]

Well, that wasn't anything special and it was kind of dumb but it was fairly amusing. I'll at least watch a little bit more.

The interesting thing about this series is the seiyuu cast. All of the girls' (except the teacher, who isn't listed on ANN yet) seiyuu are pretty new. Only one has been in more than 4 series, one has been in only two, and this is the very first role for Yuki Horinaka (Mafuyu).

[Draneor]

Yes. Update the damn wiki!

[Fencedude]

Well, that certainly was...spastic.

And I absolutely cannot see Sugisaki as anyone but Keiichi. He looks just like him dammit!

Anyway, Chizuru is awesome <3

[Suwako Moriya]

So I was browsing youtube and apparently for whatever reason Kadokawa decided to put up this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7KjtxgSHH8&feature=sub). Yes, stare at a picture of the president while hearing seiyuu talk. I have no idea why I'm pointing this out or why I'm listening to some of it...

[Spirit Of The Stage]

MY HAREM!!!

Ahem. Sorry. Way too many references to keep up with, but it's definitely amusing. Will keep up with it for a bit definitely.

[Ty]

This was surprisingly enjoyable. It's obviously catering to a certain crowd, but I happen to be in it. I'm not close to tired of this new style of parody comedy yet.

The council pres is voiced by a new VA right? I'm usually fine with high pitched or raspy voices, but hers began to get old by the end of the episode. I'm not sure if it is the way she is playing it or just the way she sounds.

[Suwako Moriya]

I'll have more to say later, maybe, but for now I'll say the following.

First, there's plenty of Aka-chan goodness including a nice fanservice image of her.

Second, it seems episode two uses a different song and to quote someone at the evil forums "The title of the second ending was that most classic of cheats, the Konami Code." I should note the ending animation remains the same.

[Suwako Moriya]

The coulce pres is voiced by a new VA right? I'm usually fine with high pitched or raspy voices, but hers began to get old by the end of the episode. I'm not sure if it is the way she is playing it or just the way she sounds.

Well, this site (http://hashihime.atspace.com/etc/seitokainoichizon/charseiyuus.html) might help answer that question. As for her voice, I might have felt differently before, but after hearing it, I can't imagine her without it.

[Draneor]

More references and less harem jokes this time. Chizuru is scary. Mafuyu is cute.

But at the end, who appears but a mysterious girl with twirls! They're screwed (insert annoying rich girl laugh).

[Suwako Moriya]

That's a lot of requests to go through. Hence we get quick solutions to some and a general solution to the rest.

Yes, Mafuyu use card game scenario for educational purposes...

Poor Minatsu, she just had to ruin the image that her sister had of her.

The reaction to Kurimu's notebook is quite telling.

I like the option that Sugisaki chose in that game. The President is looking quite nice. Kurimu just had to pull out the floppy...

Chizuru is quite devious and she clearly has control of Kurimu. Kurimu's head movement near Chizuru's chest is quite telling.

Thanks for the advice about leveling up Mafuyu.

Chizuru's advice is quite interesting as well. Also, she is the only one allowed to violate Aka-chan.

Kurimu is providing quite a bit of service and I approve of it. Well, to me she is.

Ah, that's a pretty nice outfit that Mafuyu was put into.

Heh, while the censorship image was still evil, the use of it was amusing.

Amazing, Sugisaki is actually saying some stuff that has merit.

Kurimu must determine how to take over the world. But before that, Chizuru will remind me us who is in power.

Heh, it will be curious to see how mystery girl will shake things up.

[angelx03]

Hmmm, Kurimu now has to obey to her Chizuru-sama. I like where this is going.

[Suwako Moriya]

Hmmm, Kurimu now has to obey to her Chizuru-sama. I like where this is going.

If we're lucky it will keep heading in that direction.

[HitokiriShadow]

"Chizuru, you're my best friend, right?"

The first episode was decent, but I definitely enjoyed this one more.

Mafuyu has an... interesting way of looking at things. Kurimu was good for laughs in general. And Chizuru wants to get up Kurimu''s skirt and, unlike most other cases, seems more than capable of doing it.

I have more than enough reasons to keep coming back to this series, this one is firmly in the "Keep watching" zone now.

[Fencedude]

Chizuru is amazing. Utterly amazing.

Kurimu and Mafuyu aren't half bad either.

And damn, is that some FEITO~ I see in the preview?

[Nork22]

I like Mafuyu. She's a gamer!

And just like Mafuyu, my image of Minatsu has been shattered... although it won't be moe, teaching maths does have a certain charm to it.

[angelx03]

Hmmm, Kurimu now has to obey to her Chizuru-sama. I like where this is going.

If we're lucky it will keep heading in that direction.

As this promo pic has any indication.......:catgirl:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6656/96084.jpg

[Draneor]

As this promo pic has any indication.......:catgirl:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6656/96084.jpg

It's really more like a pet and its owner, to be honest.

[Nosredna05]

That was pretty fun. I really didn't have high expectations or know what I was getting myself into, but it seems like there's some good potential. Not sure which of the four girls I like the most yet though.

[Fencedude]

As this promo pic has any indication.......:catgirl:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6656/96084.jpg

It's really more like a pet and its owner, to be honest.

Yeah, thats a good way of describing their relationship.

[William K]

But at the end, who appears but a mysterious girl with twirls! They're screwed (insert annoying rich girl laugh).

With a surprising seiyuu too, considering that the main characters are all newcomers...

[Suwako Moriya]

As this promo pic has any indication.......:catgirl:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6656/96084.jpg
It's really more like a pet and its owner, to be honest.

Perhaps, but when the pet is that cute and the owner has a nice body, I'd say we give them the trophy. What the trophy is for doesn't matter, but give it to them anyway.

[angelx03]

As this promo pic has any indication.......:catgirl:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6656/96084.jpg

It's really more like a pet and its owner, to be honest.

And pets need to obey their masters......:devil:

(c'mon doujins, don't you dare fail me on that one!!!!!)

[Nosredna05]

I really wish I understood at the references, but the ones I do get are hilarious. I like the way they are portraying the main male character, he hasn't annoyed me to death yet. And that's definitely a nice promo picture.

[Mitsuki]

I'm enjoying this so far. Not sure what girl's my favorite either, though Kurimu has her moments. I think this one's a keeper.

[Suwako Moriya]

In this episode, Noto Mamiko has possessed Feito and is using her body in order to interview members of the Student Council. Well, technically I'm stretching things, but that may as well be what happened.

One thing I liked about the episode was a chance to see the members interact with someone outside the core group. That and we got to learn things. Like the fact they're pink and white stripes. What? That's important.

Oh, and apparently the Shiina Sisters are singing the ending song.

[angelx03]

Hmmm, did Chizuru just flat out say she prefers Kurimu? I wonder if we should count that as confirmation. :sdsmiley:

[Suwako Moriya]

Hmmm, did Chizuru just flat out say she prefers Kurimu? I wonder if we should count that as confirmation. :sdsmiley:

I'm expecting her to add an extra layer of confirmation each episode.

[Fencedude]

Oh man, Lilicia's awesome.

<3 <3

And why are girls named Chizuru always sexy and crazy?

[something]

Episode 2:

- Books should expliode if they're overdue!
- Hah, I had the same reaction to Minatsu being good at math as the other characters did.
- Naked Kurimu! He plays eroge on a 5.25" floppy? o_O
- Chizuru is merciless. CHIZURU BLACK, with mind control powers! God damn we need more of that.
- Chizuru owns a death note...
- Criticism for Kurimu time! Although Chiruzu doesn't mind her figure.
- Ahahah, Chiuru wants to get Kurimu in Nyantype =D And she did...
- Holy shit Chizuru is the best. Whatever that is she put Mafuyu into... APPROVED!
- ...Ken is trying to give a nice, uplifting speech but he's pretty much telling her it's okay to be dumb if you're cute. :sd:
- Heh and she's fine with that.

I see blond hair and drills, that can only mean one thing.

...And from the preview, it's totally Fate.

[HitokiriShadow]

So the girl that showed up at the end of last episode gets properly introduced. She's a hot blond long haired +twintailed kind of Feito-chan looking haughty ojou-sama type.... voiced by Mamiko Noto. Holy. Crap. Definitely wasn't expecting to hear Mamiko Noto's voice coming out of that kind of character, and I didn't even realize it was her until her "Good Afternoon" when they switched to "Toudou Lilicia's Room", but it works wonderfully.

Lilicia is absolutely fantastic, as is the entire interview sequence. Each character's segment was perfect, and Chizuru's (and the terrified Lilicia) was particularly outstanding. I also loved the part where Chizuru fed Kurimu her snacks. So cute.

[Suwako Moriya]

Oh man, Lilicia's awesome.

Yes, she is. Although now I have to wonder which name is more accurate. As I've seen the name both as Lilicia and as Ririshia. The latter of which I went with for the avatars. Although now, I suspect I may have to consider renaming them all.:sweat:

[something]

Episode 3:

- Ahahahah! Loooove the Ai stuff. "Ippen, shinde miru?" lol DEEN, lol Mamiko.
- OH GOD! NOTO MAMIKO OJOU-SAMA! Her voice with this character is fantastic.
- And of course the only one she's scared of is Chizuru.
- Oh man she's fantastic.
- Bwhaha, nice job Minatsu. You don't even read your own label's novels, for shame!
- Hah, Mafuyu changes when she has a game in her hands. She knows how to cultivate her role in a show!
- Chizuru interview... >_>

Awwwwwwwwww~~~ I moe so hard for Lilicia~! Let her join the student council! <3 <3

[Suwako Moriya]

Awwwwwwwwww~~~ I moe so hard for Lilicia~! Let her join the student council! <3 <3

This is all part of a plan to increase the size of the harem isn't it?

[something]

This is all part of a plan to increase the size of the harem isn't it?
Chizuru's harem, yes.

[angelx03]

This is all part of a plan to increase the size of the harem isn't it?
Chizuru's harem, yes.

That includes even Ken?!!! :knowitall:

[Suwako Moriya]

This is all part of a plan to increase the size of the harem isn't it?Chizuru's harem, yes.That includes even Ken?!!! :knowitall:

Ken's purpose is to be the guy taking care of all the boring tasks while Chizuru ravages whoever she wants. Usually Aka-chan.

[Draneor]

A lot more eroge jokes (all ages). Including the reference to the summer controversy and that certain games lack a little on the content (unfinished, cough) in relation to the price. And yes, Baka-Test (http://www.bakatest.com/) is going to make a good anime, even if it's published by Enterbrain (and not Fujimi Shobo). Mafuyu wears pink shimapan and is a total game otaku (well, it was obvious before but...). I agree adding a "sick girl" element would improve Mafuyu.

To be honest, I felt sorry for Lilishia at the end. Which is odd, given I thought I wouldn't like her going in, given her speech style. It was also a very interesting role for Noto Mamiko (she doesn't play haughty characters too often).

I didn't expect the serious turn this episode took, to be honest. I kept expecting the "two timing" to end up being about game characters or something.

[something]

I kept expecting the "two timing" to end up being about game characters or something.
I still do.

[William K]

I didn't expect the serious turn this episode took, to be honest. I kept expecting the "two timing" to end up being about game characters or something.

I'm not sure about it being serious. My first thoughts were that Ken was purposely admitting it so that Lilicia's article would be about him instead of the other members of the student council.

[Nosredna05]

I kept expecting the "two timing" to end up being about game characters or something.
I still do.

I didn't think of that, but it makes perfect sense. It will be interesting to see if they bring it back up.

[Nork22]

Man, I haven't heard a haughty ojou-sama voiced by teh Mamiko in a long while. The long and short of it, Lilica is awesome!

[Mitsuki]

Lilicia is indeed awesome. Very surprising and great role for Mamiko Noto. I hope we see more of her. I did wind up feeling bad for her by the end. Her interview with Chizuru was my favorite, I think. And yes, I did expect Ken's two-timing to be about game characters.

[Ty]

This was a nice change for Mamiko Noto. She does just about any role exceedingly well, but I think her ojousama voice has been underused lately. Kurimu's VA has her voice dialed in finally too. She smoothed out just enough to not be irritating, and is actually quite an interesting voice to listen to now much like Misao from Lucky Star was.

For a show that's basically about nothing this holds my interest very easily. Each episode has improved on the last and I think they know how they want this show to "feel" now.

[Suwako Moriya]

Ah, talk about an elegant way to start the episode.

Some of these fantasies are fine. Others are scary.

Strike Witches time.

It's time to cash in on K-ON!, but actually playing takes effort. Use a recording!

Promotional video time.

I see swimsuits in the preview. I especially line the one Mafayu has. *Watches the last scene. I wonder if that means what I think it means.

[angelx03]

I knew Mafuyu would cause trouble, but oh god!!!! :depressed:

[William K]

Hahaha, story about electricity that takes place in a school.... Wonder what series they are talking about :)

Chizuru is really, really scary

[Suwako Moriya]

I knew Mafuyu would cause trouble, but oh god!!!! :depressed:

In some ways Mafuyu may be the most dangerous one.

[Draneor]

Sugisaki, you jackass. You should be glad you appeared in Mafuyu's story.

A lot of good parodies again this episode. They managed to get light novels, Strike Witches, and K-On!, among many others. I loved how Kurimu was blowing bubbles while Sugisaki was drawing the anime.

Hahaha, story about electricity that takes place in a school...

I'm pretty sure they were referring to ASCII Media Works Dengeki line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_Media_Works), which includes a line of gaming magazines as well as novels (Dengeki Bunko).

It's time to cash in on K-ON!, but actually playing takes effort. Use a recording!

It really is just about selling character CDs.^^U

[Nosredna05]

The first half of that episode was so wrong, but so hilarious. I don't think I could resist Mafuyu either. I still wish I got more of the references though :sd:.

[Nork22]

Mmmm.... I can easily say that Mafuyu could be the perfect waifu... but the yaoi fan girl aspect certainly scares me.

[Suwako Moriya]

Mmmm.... I can easily say that Mafuyu could be the perfect waifu... but the yaoi fan girl aspect certainly scares me.

There's always a price to pay. A price that sometimes may be too high for some. Still giving the fantasy scene, it seems that not only does she believe in yaoi, she also believes in multiple partners and incest. So, I guess this means she is actually ok with the idea of a harem, just not the type that Sugisaki actually wants.:sweat:

[Mitsuki]

Oh, this was hilarious. This show just keeps getting better and better. I still can't decide which girl is my favorite - this week made me really like Mafuyu!

[HitokiriShadow]

No one can defy Mafuyu's adorable requests.

And now even Minatsu and Mafuyu are terrified of Chizuru's ability to control those around her. They should be thankful Chizuru is satisfied with one pet... for now, at least.

LOL blatant Strike Witches rip-off. And K-ON. No need for Sugisaki, bands only need girls.

Mafuyu playing the game after the promotional shoot was just too cute, she was absolutely adorable.

So is Chizuru fondling Kurimu's hair while Kurimu lays on her lap.

[Suwako Moriya]

In this episode we get swimsuits, and lucky for us since we're the viewer we get to see more than Sugisaki does.

That being said, with the way the girls were in terms of trying to prevent him from getting a view, it does make me wonder what they'd do if they went to an actual beach or something.

I guess it depends on whether they're against people seeing them in general or if they're just against the idea of Sugisaki seeing anything.

Still this harem as nice and hot as it may be, it might ultimately not be worth the trouble. Minatsu would kill you, Chizuru would make you her pet, Mafuyu would force you into a life of yaoi, and Kurimu would.... actually, I'm not sure what to say in her case.

It would seem that Mafuyu has joined the ranks of the brainwashed. Although this time thanks to her own sister. Although I would have liked it better if Minatsu had brainwashed her into incest. *Gets strangled*

Either way that leaves just Minatsu and Chizuru left to be brainwashed by whoever. Although I get the feeling that only Chizuru could brainwash Chizuru.

[angelx03]

GEEZ, zettai ryouiki WITH swimsuits........goddamn!!! :nosebleed:

[Fencedude]

Oh god that was too funny. I think the Strike Witches part was the best.

Too bad we didn't get a Kurimu/Chizuru yuri story.

[something]

Episode 4:

- Yeah, that setting goes a bit beyond fantasy for these characters. >_>
- Novels are a straight path to riches and fame!
- Minatsu's novel was gloriously incoherent. Mafuyu's was blriffic. I love her. And I love that Ken's "brother" in all this is the same seiyuu as Bakemono's Meme (and other things, but I just rewatched 5 eps of Bake earlier).
- "Once you're familiar with it you won't feel any shame!" <3 Mafuyu! Her voice makes me so happy.
- Chizuru is evil as ever. "Your highness." XD
- Hah, I like Ken's story. "I'm glad I didn't wear any then." :sd:
- Fuck yes Strike Witches. Also least subtle parody ever. Is there any connection between the two shows? They have zero staff/cast crossover according to ANN.
- Kurimu knows her stuff! Bands must be all girls!
- I kept waiting for Ken to suggest a porno.
- ...Oh god,the video is so, so horribly cheesy that I can almost accept it as real. :sd:

This show is still way too fun.

[something]

Episode 5:

- Summer uniforms are nice but... swimsuits are better! And thighhighs!!! This show has been an absolute paradise for thighhighs, and now we get them with swimsuits? Fuck, this show is incredible.
- You know, for the "flat" character, Kurimu ain't looking too bad up top in her swimsuit.
- !!! Ken's yuri goggles are fantastic. Can we please animate the rest of the series like that?
- 170cm with an F cup. Kurimu doesn't half-ass her delusions.
- Ahahah, Mafuyu goes into kill mode.
- Eyecatch! Mahou Shoujo Creamy Kurimu!
- "Did that just twist...?" XD
- O_O MORNING CHIZURU IS LOVE!
- ...Hahah, oh wow, Mafuyu.
- Ahahahah, I have no idea why that was so funny, Kurimu, but it was. She says it like she's got some secret knowledge. XD
- HAIR DOWN MINATSU!! Fantastic.

Love this show.

Haha, what's up with the ED? :sd:

[Fencedude]

Holy crap swimsuits + thighhighs is just criminally hot. Absolutely unbelievable.

Hair down Minatsu was pretty awesome as well.

[Draneor]

That was an interesting use of Kanon in D-Dur. I know I heard quite a few other classic pieces too. I'm glad Mafuyu has her priorities straight when it comes to games and novels. And lol. It took Aka-tan until the end of the novel series to figure that out.

[Nosredna]

Minatsu became my favorite of the girls after that episode. I was definitely leaning towards her, but the some of the stuff she did made me fall for her. I especially loved her with her hair down. I didn't realize it was her at first either :sd:.

[HitokiriShadow]

Oh heck yes. Swimwear + thigh highs, which make an excellent combination and the girls spent almost the entire episode in it. I was very pleased with this outcome.

I loved the little flashback to Chizuru's morning greeting to Kurimu. And Ken has some very nice yuri vision.

[Draneor]

Damn. The first volume of Seitokai no Ichizon, which was #254 last weekend, is now #1 in Amazon.co.jp's DVD category (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/dvd/12923111/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_d_1_3_last) and #7 overall. The DVDs have been solicited for a while so I wonder what happened.

[Fencedude]

Damn. The first volume of Seitokai no Ichizon, which was #254 last weekend, is now #1 in Amazon.co.jp's DVD category (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/dvd/12923111/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_d_1_3_last) and #7 overall. The DVDs have been solicited for a while so I wonder what happened.

Bikinis + Thighhighs

[Draneor]

Heresy! They showed Minatsu and Mafuyu outside the club room.

It's really quite easy. They just need to hold a dark, sexual, boys love, battle tournament for a mountain of candy. That didn't come out as well as I thought it would...

I'm now officially smitten by Mafuyu. A school festival where you would play RPGs in each room, dodging monsters as you slip from class to class, and finding herbs to heal your wounds...

It's kind of hard to know when Sugisaki is joking and when he is serious.

References this week include but are not limited to Haruhi, Higurashi, generic magical girl, sentai shows, and Metal Gear. With the moral of the story being, we would have had a happy ending had Mafuyu bought that action figure.

And uh, yeah. I'm 95% certain I'll be jumping on the bandwagon and picking this show up.

[Fencedude]

Wait, who put emotional drama in my wacky student council anime?

Also they're pushing Minatsu/Ken pretty hard, and for some reason this doesn't actually bother me.

[Suwako Moriya]

It's really quite easy. They just need to hold a dark, sexual, boys love, battle tournament for a mountain of candy. That didn't come out as well as I thought it would...

I think that formula would work better if one of the elements was removed or maybe if it was kept to a minimum.

I'm now officially smitten by Mafuyu. A school festival where you would play RPGs in each room, dodging monsters as you slip from class to class, and finding herbs to heal your wounds...

Such an awesome suggestion. Also, I like the part where she talks about when she'll forget.

With the moral of the story being, we would have had a happy ending had Mafuyu bought that action figure.

I never realized the importance of buying such things.

[Suwako Moriya]

Wait, who put emotional drama in my wacky student council anime?

I'm trying to figure out if this "emotional drama" is meant to be taken seriously or if they parodying the idea of how some series will start off silly, but eventually start adding layers of drama.

Also they're pushing Minatsu/Ken pretty hard, and for some reason this doesn't actually bother me.

I think it might be because compared to the other girls, she seems to be the most plausible. I suppose I should back that up with reasons, but that requires effort on my part.

Still I find it interesting that she's the only one that seems to call him by his given name. Everyone else uses the surname or some nickname for him.

[Fencedude]

Still I find it interesting that she's the only one that seems to call him by his given name. Everyone else uses the surname or some nickname for him.

This is an interesting point. I almost want to start analyzing the characters, taking into consideration the stereotypes they represent and who manages to break out of them the most (here's a hint: It ain't Mafuyu), but that might be reaching to far for this show.

[Draneor]

Also they're pushing Minatsu/Ken pretty hard[...]

It's probably because she's the most normal one there. Kurimu is basically a child, Mafuyu is well Mafuyu, and Chizuru is more interested in dominating all who encounter her... I get the impression there may be something between Kurimu and Sugisaki though.

I'm trying to figure out if this "emotional drama" is meant to be taken seriously or if they parodying the idea of how some series will start off silly, but eventually start adding layers of drama.

Well, the standard light novel model involves interspersing or alternating silly side stories with the plot narrative. I don't think the serious events are meant to be a parody.

[Nosredna]

That was a lot of drama considering how much drama we got. A lot of good references I actually got this time too. I don't mind the Minatsu/Ken pairing, but I just don't see anything like that happening.

[Vegard Aune]

Wait, who put emotional drama in my wacky student council anime?
I'm curious about that too. Damn it Seitokai no Ichizon! You're supposed to be an utterly silly series without much substance, go back to being random!

...Also, Sugisaki is quite an awesomely lame character, by the way.

[Shiroi Hane]

...Also, Sugisaki is quite an awesomely lame character, by the way.
Yet, as much as they complain about him, he's often the only one in the room who does any actual work (other than stamping forms).

[HitokiriShadow]

"Mafuyu won't forget you until Mafuyu forgets!" "You won't be forgotten until around 8pm tonight" LOL Mafuyu

Chizuru playing with Aka-chan is always so cute. And now Chizuru is upgrading Aka-chan with additional ahoge.

I think this is the first time I've seen Metal Gear referenced in anime.

[Fencedude]

"Mafuyu won't forget you until Mafuyu forgets!" "You won't be forgotten until around 8pm tonight" LOL Mafuyu

Chizuru playing with Aka-chan is always so cute. And now Chizuru is upgrading Aka-chan with additional ahoge.

I think this is the first time I've seen Metal Gear referenced in anime.

The hotel infiltration in Princess Lover included among its absurdities a piece of music which was clearly riffing off of the Metal Gear Solid theme.

[HitokiriShadow]

The hotel infiltration in Princess Lover included among its absurdities a piece of music which was clearly riffing off of the Metal Gear Solid theme.

Huh, I'm surprised I didn't catch that. I must have been too distracted by the absurdities on the screen at the time to pay any attention at all to the music.

[Draneor]

I think this is the first time I've seen Metal Gear referenced in anime.

Hayate no Gotoku also referenced Metal Gear. Specifically, the cardboard box.

[HitokiriShadow]

I think this is the first time I've seen Metal Gear referenced in anime.

Hayate no Gotoku also referenced Metal Gear. Specifically, the cardboard box.

Ooooh, yeah, when Hayate first entered the school to bring Nagi her lunch (or whatever the reason was that he was there), right? I had forgotten about that but I definitely noticed it at the time.

[Nork22]

I give brownie points to Sugisaki for proposing to Mafuyu... I mean... who wouldn't?! She's a freaking gamer girl!!

[Shiroi Hane]

I give brownie points to Sugisaki for proposing to Mafuyu... I mean... who wouldn't?! She's a freaking gamer girl!!
Problem is that she would rather to watch you making out with another guy than actually making out with you.

[Nork22]

I give brownie points to Sugisaki for proposing to Mafuyu... I mean... who wouldn't?! She's a freaking gamer girl!!
Problem is that she would rather to watch you making out with another guy than actually making out with you.

Marriage is made up of compromises. ;)

[something]

Episode 6:

- Well, Ken is right, there are indeed schools like that... =D Well one anyway.
- Minatsu blast!
- Mafuyu's gaming tangents are fantastic.
- Hah! "Get down!" ...just to mess with their heads.
- Chizuru and the adviser. Terrifying duo.
- No! The Shiina sisters are not allowed to transfer!
- Ahahaha. She won't forget about you until the day she forgets about you!
- Though I guess that's better than 8pm. :sd:
- Chizuru had sex with Kurimu's head and more ahoge were born. o_O
- Hey, serious stuff. Maybe Ken will seduce their mom so they can all stay here!
- Wow, Ken, you kinda suck at convincing, heh. Of course it'll work anyway. :sd:

So they'll be around until the end of the year at least. Good. And next week has Chizuru naked with Kurimu... =D

[something]

Also they're pushing Minatsu/Ken pretty hard, and for some reason this doesn't actually bother me.
That does seem to be the pairing that's getting serious focus, which is really interesting. Of course now that they'll be transferring out in less than a year, that might be the show's way of putting the brakes on that.

[Fencedude]

Also they're pushing Minatsu/Ken pretty hard, and for some reason this doesn't actually bother me.
That does seem to be the pairing that's getting serious focus, which is really interesting. Of course now that they'll be transferring out in less than a year, that might be the show's way of putting the brakes on that.

Well, I would assume that that is the end of the story.

[angelx03]

Oh shit, they went outside ~mokyu! :knowitall:

On another note.....

- Chizuru makes (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2874/snapshot20091118121119.jpg) sure Kurimu belongs to her (http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2207/snapshot20091118121141.jpg) ~mokyu
- Chizuru sleeps in the nude (http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3052/snapshot20091118121852.jpg) ~mokyu
- Chizuru sleeps in the nude with Kurimu (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4463/1258220089166.jpg) ~mokyu


/end of episode (http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5368/snapshot20091118121544.jpg) ~mokyu

[Suwako Moriya]

It's time for a Summer Trip!

Now that you mention it, they do look like mother and daughter.

Ah, yes, low level challenges in RPGs. They're kind of fun, but only if the game offers you strategies beyond simply leveling up.

Mafuyu knows exactly what to bring. Stocking up herbs err game systems is important.

I'm not sure I want to know what's in Chizuru's bag.

Remember, Kurimu is a lady!

Poor Ken....

I love that outfit Minatsu is wearing.

Chizuru likes to keep control of Kurimu.

Poor Mafuyu, your sister fails to recognize you because you lack your ribbon. Suddenly I'm reminded of how Ken couldn't recognize Minatsu with her hair down.

I can always count on Mafuyu for RPG analogies and such. Don't worry, Mafuyu, I don't form my party based on who is the "strongest". I form my party based on wanting to have cute females that qualify as love.

Mafuyu recharges her MP.

Chizuru sleeps in the nude.

Mafuyu never sleeps at night. Yeah, sleeping gets in the way of gaming.

Chizuru and Kurimu might as well be married.

Ah, so it's time for Mafuyu to get the eye catch. I wonder what we'll get for 9-12. Well, I guess they might do Ken for 9-10, but that still leaves 11-12 open.

It looks like things didn't go as planned. It's already night time.

Personally, I think both Minatsu and Mafuyu might have the best chests in the show. Even if Kurimu has less and Chizuru has more. Although if I had to choose between Minatsu and Mafuyu, I might lean towards Minatsu.

It figures Kurimu would be the one not like ghost stories.

Darn it, steam is pure evil.

Time for Minatsu to tell a story. Sure, let's call her Kurimu-chan out of convenience. Yeah, right.

I like how we jump from "Kurimu-chan" going to a vending machine to being dead. Then we move on to another girl being killed with a bunch of knives in her. Kurimu is the culprit!

Ken tells us a short story about how Kurimu became Ken's maid for life. Minatsu loses.

Obtaining a new unique character is the shortcut to success. It's like Kurimu is trying to reveal the secrets to anime.

And now all five of them have a phrase to say at the end of their sentence.

I love Minatsu's outfit, but I'm declaring Mafuyu to be the winner in this case.

Chizuru makes such a cute sheep.

It's time for everyone to drink orange juice.

Chizuru definitely took a liking to the sheep outfit.

I can't really tell what they're trying to do, but this version of the ending definitely sounds different.

[Vegard Aune]

Do not worry, Mafuyu-chan! Even without your ribbon, I still recognised you!!! ~n'stuff.

Also, Sugisaki being Sugisaki!
Mafuyu being Mafuyu!
Minatsu being hilariously OOC!
Chizuru cosplaying a sheep!
Distinctly non-horrifying horror-story scaring the sh*t out of Kurimu!
ABSOLUTELY NO SERIOUS SCENES IN SIGHT!

...Yeah, that was totally awesome.

- Chizuru sleeps in the nude with Kurimu (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4463/1258220089166.jpg) ~mokyu
Thus, Chizuru x Aka-chan = Canon. Err... more canon than it already was. (I can not believe I just said that. It would appear that the yuri-fanboys on this and other forums have started affecting my brain.)

[Mitsuki]

This episode was hilarious. I'm really loving this series. The switching-up-our-characters bit was hysterical, especially Minatsu and Chizuru, as were the ghost stories... "There was once a girl named Kurimu-chan. She worked as a maid for Sugisaki Ken her whole life. The end."

[Draneor]

The best parts of episode seven were Mafuyu in her nightgown and Mafuyu cosplaying. I'm also utterly amazed Ken managed an indirect kiss with the entire student council and didn't even notice.

[Nosredna]

Amazing episode, I never knew Minatsu was so stacked. I loved Mafuyu's comparing herself and her sister to video game characters this episode. And having them end their sentences with a different phrase was great. I'm surprised Ken didn't go nuts after he had an indirect kiss with all the girls, or at least it didn't come to his mind and them keeping the can from him.

[angelx03]

In all honestly, I didn't realize that everyone was sharing the can. :sweat:

[Fencedude]

The best parts of episode seven were Mafuyu in her nightgown and Mafuyu cosplaying. I'm also utterly amazed Ken managed an indirect kiss with the entire student council and didn't even notice.

My mind was blown that they didn't go for the obvious punchline there. Maybe that was the punchline.

Also MOKYUU! and I'd totally do a Mafuyu-only challenge run.

[Draneor]

My mind was blown that they didn't go for the obvious punchline there. Maybe that was the punchline.

I was expecting there to be no juice left after Mafuyu's turn, but I guess they wanted to go for an uplifting moment.

[angelx03]

- Chizuru sleeps in the nude with Kurimu (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4463/1258220089166.jpg) ~mokyu
Thus, Chizuru x Aka-chan = Canon. Err... more canon than it already was. (I can not believe I just said that. It would appear that the yuri-fanboys on this and other forums have started affecting my brain.)

Don't worry! You won't feel any shame once you get used to it! :laugh:

[Nork22]

~mokyuuu.... that is evil.....

Hardcore gamer Mafuyu and her bag of consoles. I laugh at the Xbox360's power brick jokes.

[William K]

I can't really tell what they're trying to do, but this version of the ending definitely sounds different.

Every version has different lyrics. This is the Chizuru version and her lyrics are about her perverted fantasies :)

[Suwako Moriya]

Every version has different lyrics. This is the Chizuru version and her lyrics are about her perverted fantasies :)

Ah, I see then. Maybe I should further study the other endings later, maybe.

[William K]

Every version has different lyrics. This is the Chizuru version and her lyrics are about her perverted fantasies :)

Ah, I see then. Maybe I should further study the other endings later, maybe.

Ok, checking back it looks like I was wrong about Chizuru changing the lyrics. There are actually 2 different songs with the same music and they switch verses.

Ep 1 Mousou Fetish (all)
Ep 2 U U D D L R L R B A (all)
Ep 3 Mousou Fetish (Minatsu and Mafuyu Version)
Ep 4 Mousou Fetish 2nd Verse (all)
Ep 5 U U D D L R L R B A (Kurimu Version + Chizuru)
Ep 6 U U D D L R L R B A 2nd Verse (all)
Ep 7 Mousou Fetish (Chizuru Version + Kurimu)

[Fencedude]

Ep 2 U U D D L R L R B A (all)

Ep 5 U U D D L R L R B A (Kurimu Version + Chizuru)
Ep 6 U U D D L R L R B A 2nd Verse (all)


Best song title ever!

[William K]

Ep 2 U U D D L R L R B A (all)

Ep 5 U U D D L R L R B A (Kurimu Version + Chizuru)
Ep 6 U U D D L R L R B A 2nd Verse (all)


Best song title ever!

Heh, yeah. And the same sequence appeared in Kiddy Girl-and too when Ascouer and Q-feiulle were fighting the beast in the GOTT building

[Suwako Moriya]

Ep 2 U U D D L R L R B A (all)

Ep 5 U U D D L R L R B A (Kurimu Version + Chizuru)
Ep 6 U U D D L R L R B A 2nd Verse (all)
Best song title ever!

Heh, yeah. And the same sequence appeared in Kiddy Girl-and too when Ascouer and Q-feiulle were fighting the beast in the GOTT building

In regards to the song title, I have only one question to ask. Does it result in level select, extra lives, more power, or blowing up in this case? Regardless, it's definitely an amusing song title.

As for the Kiddy Grade scene, that was definitely fun to see.

In general though, I'm not sure how many times I've used the Konami code over time. Not like I've played much in terms of Konami games lately, but that's a story for another time that may never come because I'm lazy.

[Vegard Aune]

There are actually 2 different songs with the same music and they switch verses.
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure this week's episode had both. Simultaneously:sweat:

[William K]

There are actually 2 different songs with the same music and they switch verses.
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure this week's episode had both. Simultaneously:sweat:

That was just Kurimu trying to be helpful, lol

[Nork22]

In regards to the song title, I have only one question to ask. Does it result in level select, extra lives, more power, or blowing up in this case? Regardless, it's definitely an amusing song title.
I vote it will unlock the HAREM ENDING!!!

[HitokiriShadow]

Ken gets permission to fondle Chizuru's breasts.... and then passes because he can't reach and it would take too much effort.

Chizuru moes out over sleeping Kurimu... and then proceeds to get in her daily brainwashing.

Poor Mafuyu isn't even recognized by her out sister when she takes her ribbon off. Mafuyu is the hardcore single-character-only challenge character in RPGs!

Chizuru sleeps in the nude! For some reason, I'm not terribly shocked at this.

Morning Chizuru with Kurimu is adorable.

Nice Mafuyu eyecatch.

We interrupt this ghost story episode for... public bath time!

"Kamimashita!"

The insertion of Kurimu into the story, the commentary on her and her reactions were highly amusing.

LOL. "There was a girl named Kurimu. She worked as my maid for her entire life. The end" Kurimu is terrified and Minatsu is forced to admit her defeat.

Kurimu came up with an awesome punishment game. And she somehow gets roped into it herself. Mafuyu's new character was pretty amusing, but I think Chizuru's wins the prize. Chizuru's is pretty hilarious and really, criminally cute, especially considering her normal personality. And she uses it to get money out of Ken.

[Suwako Moriya]

It's the return of Lillicia! Not much time with her, but better than nothing.

It's time to meet Elise the younger sister of Lillicia and she has some interesting things to say...

I sense the aura of jealousy.

The President has many special features! President Hip! President Bust! Just two examples.

There's nothing like giving one of those "X went to the story to buy" stories used for education a dark twist.

I get the feeling this "harem" situation is more complicated than the first episode would you to believe.

Elise knows her sister well.

[DenpaWa]

I laughed so much, I wish this episode was all Elise and Sugisaki. :)

Usually I find Kurimu funny, but this time her antics just dragged on. For the rest of the girls, I felt like, "okay, you're jealous of a little kid; move on." I suppose it's supposed to reveal that they all like him much more than they let on. But, for me, it just detracted from the Elise-and-Sugisaki show.

[something]

Episode 7:

- Mafuyu east corn one kernel at a time! Ken is so tired he can't even touch Chizuru's boobs. That's bad.
- Kurimu doesn't like planes. >_>
- "Some of them have AC adapters heavy enough to probably kill a person..." Fuck yes Mafuyu you are awesome.
- Chizuru has awesome luggage.
- Oh god I can't decide where to stop to comment because everything is hilarious and/or sexy. Minatsu looking wonderrful in her black shirt, Chizuru poking and brainwashing Kurimu, and of couse Mafuyu looking damn nice in her sleepwear.
- I would give you all thebest items in an RPG, Mafuyu! ...She ate one of her "herbs". XD
- Chizuru is naked...
- "Mafuyu never sleeps at night." XD
- Fuuuuuuuuuck yeeeeeeeees, morning Chizuru is loooooove.
- I love this show's eyecatches.
- Ghost stories! Too bad we didn't get more in the baths.
- I'll never hear the word "kamimashita" without thinking of Hachikuji Mayoi now.
- Chizuru looks so happy when she pulls the terrified Kurimu onto her.
- Kurimu comes up with a truly fantastic idea. Because it leads to holy shit Mafuyu!
- ...
- ...
- ...
- O_O
- ...
- Hooooooooooly shit. Chizuru. That broke my brain.
- Oooh, that was a really nice scene in the morning. That just left me with a great feeling. Nicely done. Glad they didn't play it with a gag at the end.
- Mokyu~~!

I love how they're singing different songs in the ED. :sd:

This show really is remarkably good. It's easy to forget that when not watching, but as soon as an episode starts I'm immediately reminded of how incredibly fun it is.

[Fencedude]

Oh god Elise is hilarious.

Also Mafuyu's character changed!

[something]

Episode 8:

- Oh right. Hell yes Noto Mamiko! And her sister is Shimizu Ai.
- Minatsu, call the police. :sd:
- Oh wow, massive jealousy.
- Holy shit Elise plays doctor in scary ways. "You have cancer."
- And playing with dolls... fuck this girl is twisted.
- Ahahah, her shiritori is strong...
- Heh, Elise doesn't want to advertise for them. =P
- Her ayatori is just as strong >_>
- Man, Elise totally has Kurimu flustered.
- Same eyecatch? Have they repeated before?
- Kurimu, you're awesome. You may fail at all subjects but the way you sidestepped Minatsu's math problem was brilliant.
- Heh, they're pissed at taking the Kurimu route. :sd:
- Elise is amazing. In addition to being a great spy, she completely throws everyone around her for a loop with just a few sentences. Nobody can keep up with her. Even Chizuru would probably have trouble.

Great episode once again, and we better see Elsie at least once more.

[Suwako Moriya]

Same eyecatch? Have they repeated before?

Heh, I figured you would have noticed by episode 4 that they've been doing a pattern of the following. Show an eyecatch for two episodes in a row and then switch to the next one. It will be curious to see if Ken gets an eyecatch.

Great episode once again, and we better see Elise at least once more.

Yes, it is our destiny to see her again along with her sister. Heck, maybe they should give those two an eyecatch even if it's a shared one.

[angelx03]

Ehhhhh, Kurimu has gotten a bit too obnoxious in the second half for my tastes. :relief::relief:

Is the next episode going to be about Chizuru's past or something?

[HitokiriShadow]

Tsundere ojousama Mamiko Noto returns! Well, very briefly, at least.

But she has an adorable little sister that is the focal point of the episode and she's hilarious. Doctor Elise was particularly hilarious, but everything involving Elise was comedy gold.

Also, the kanji part made me want to cry because I'm learning this stuff and it reminds me how insane the Japanese writing system is and how far I have to go.

[Suwako Moriya]

We get some of the usual antics then we get some Chizuru focus.

Oh, and the Chizuru eyecatch is shown for the third time. Except the other image after that is different. So I guess the other three eye catches will be repeated as well with a new second picture each.

[Nosredna]

Elise is so cute! And absolutely hilarious. You have cancer. I was surprised how jealous the other girls got of Elise. I admit I didn't figure out Elise was sent there to do that, but she played the part perfectly. Sugisaki should try and expand his harem though.

[Shiroi Hane]

Episode 8:
- Oh right. Hell yes Noto Mamiko! And her sister is Shinku.
Yar, fixed it.

[Draneor]

It's really hard to know when Sugisaki is joking and when he's serious. With that said, I think it's pretty clear that unless he successfully gets the harem ending*, the other three girls will kill him in their special way.


*Never happens. I'm convinced it's a myth.

[EmperorBrandon]

Yes, it is our destiny to see her again along with her sister. Heck, maybe they should give those two an eyecatch even if it's a shared one.

Please, please, let there be more Toudou sisters. The episodes with them are awesome. :)

[Draneor]

Sugisaki, you had damn well better fill Mafuyu's meter. While there is nothing more funny than seeing a BL fujoshi argue with a galge otaku, you can learn to love BL, Sugisaki. For Mafuyu's sake, whose route should be next week, given past episodes.

That was an unexpected twist on Chizuru's character. My opinion of her has improved quite a bit. Once again, it's hard to figure out how much Sugisaki knows and is just not showing, due to his personality. Did he know why Chizuru was holding his hand until she told him? There are also signs that there is a lot more to him than we're getting at the moment.

[HitokiriShadow]

Ken's conversation with Mafuyu was hilarious and definitely the comedy highlight of the episode.

Then we get some serious Chizuru stuff too. It was okay. It wasn't bad by any means, it just wasn't terribly interesting and I have a hard time connecting with the serious stuff in this series.

[Fencedude]

Well obviously Kurimu was jealous, Ken was holding her Chizuru's hand!

Chizuru's past was interesting, if still rather vague. And of course she would have a Death Note.

Mafuyu and Ken are totally two sides of the same coin.

[Nosredna]

The Death Note parody was great. Mayufu and Ken's argument was hilarious. Ken may just end up with his harem ending, although I don't think any of the girls will admit to it.

[Shiroi Hane]

But what colour is Mafuyu's underwear? Enquiring minds need to know!
Ken should know the colour of Chizuru's.

[Draneor]

But what colour is Mafuyu's underwear? Enquiring minds need to know!

Pink stripes (NSFW) (http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2721/vlcsnap2009101823h09m41.png).

[Suwako Moriya]

There seem to be some type of festival/event going on in this episode. Watch as we get dramatic "death" scenes? Oh, and we get to see a bit of Lillicia.

[Suwako Moriya]

The girls have to deal with the fact Ken is sick. Meaning the work he does has to be done by them. We also get some fun moments. The interesting part is near the end.

You have to guys who clearly are speaking bad of Ken and the girls don't like it. Also, Minatsu doesn't like her little sister being attack. Oh, and that cat is awesome for scratching the guying.

The truly fun part is near the end as Mafuyu has something to tell Ken.

[something]

Eh... skipping over Kampfer in my watch schedule, and saving Railgun for later. So it's Ichizon time.

Episode 9:

- Huh... what was that all about?
- Oh god, their choice of reading is great. Chizuru gave Minatsu a death note! Mafuyu reads bl doujins!
- Gender doesn't matter in love! You tell him Mafuyu! I fully support you there.
- Chizuru is amazing as usual. Suddenly I want her and Miyazawa Yukine to compare love charms.
- The handshake test was brilliant.
- This show has the best eyecatches.
- Minatsu yuri! YES PLEASE.
- Ahaha, the teacher screws with them.
- Oh shit, I hear a Tomatsu Haruka. Yay! And playing an old classmate of Chizuru's who did mean things to her. Hmmm.
- Huh, this serious focus on Chizuru's past is so awkwardly abrupt but... I like it. For whatever reason, I have always liked the serious moments in this show. The BGM is one I really like too.
- Hahaha, everyone is worrying how she'll react now that they know. :sd:
- Ah so the Chizuru/Ken bit in the start was a flashback.

Damn, I want my 10 and 11 releases now. I love this show.

[Suwako Moriya]

For whatever reason, I have always liked the serious moments in this show.

Perhaps part of it is that the serious moments do a good job of providing the show with a foundation that it couldn't have with just comedy.

Damn, I want my 10 and 11 releases now. I love this show.

Let's just say that I want others to experience 10 and 11.

[something]

Perhaps part of it is that the serious moments do a good job of providing the show with a foundation that it couldn't have with just comedy.
Yeah, probably something like that. Granted, they haven't really been necessary at all but I really like the extra bit of depth they give the characters. I don't mind serious stuff in my silly otaku anime if it's done well, and I feel like Ichizon has always done it really well.

btw, since it's arguably on topic for this thread:
Avatars: Shiina Minatsu (Forum) of Seitokai no Ichizon
Time to update your sig =P

[Suwako Moriya]

I don't mind serious stuff in my silly otaku anime if it's done well, and I feel like Ichizon has always done it really well.

That's the best way of putting it. In general, mixtures are fine so long as they're mixed well. Be it adding a touch of serious to a comedy or a touch of comedy to a serious series.


btw, since it's arguably on topic for this thread:
Avatars: Shiina Minatsu (Forum) of Seitokai no Ichizon
Time to update your sig =P

Or alternatively, I could update the avatar so it is actually Shiina Minatsu. There's always that option. Still I'll go with the sig update option. Either way this is proof I should get some sleep and finish work on episode 11 avatars later. In any case, maybe I'll use Shiina Minatsu sometime later.

[something]

Episode 10:

- Aw cmon, I think Aka-chan can handle one cotton candy. She'll still stay perfectly cute~
- Ahahah! Kurimu cries at her own story and then pops back with "So I think I'll have one of you die today." XD
- lol, don't spoil, Aka-chan!
- And again. :sd:
- Oh good, Ken asked the question that's been stuck in my head. Why are you holding that, Mafuyu?
- #3.
- Chizuru's idea of a happy ending so very like her.
- Best. Play. Ever.
- Noto's Scandalous Grill is <3
- Mafuyu bl eyecatch!
- Sheep costume is back! ~mokyu
- Nopan Mafuyu! Why, oh why did they stop there? That should have been the focus of the rest of the episode!
- Pokkoncho!
- Awwww. Kurimu's speech was incredibly sweet. And as usual that bgm I love accompanies it. Definitely the highlight of the ep so far for me.

So don't want this show to end. It's become one of my favorites of the season.


...They never explained the potato.

[Suwako Moriya]

Best. Play. Ever.

One thing that makes it effective is that you just know there are likely anime out there that play out like that.

So don't want this show to end. It's become one of my favorites of the season.

Maybe if we're lucky, they'll be "convinced" to do additional seasons.

...They never explained the potato.

If it's not explain then we're not worthy of knowing?

[Nosredna]

Their ideas for plays were awesome. But I want to know how Mafuyu lost her panties :blush1:.

[something]

Their ideas for plays were awesome. But I want to know how Mafuyu lost her panties :blush1:.
I want to blame Chizuru. But more likely it's from changing after the play. =P

[evilarrex]

Episode 10:

- Nopan Mafuyu! Why, oh why did they stop there? That should have been the focus of the rest of the episode!


If Ken doesnt get a full Harem End - what we need is a Mafuyu pairing finale ;)

[Draneor]

I think the example for the "Law of Early Deaths in Love" is really poor, since that scene had nothing to do with romantic love.

I hate, hate, hate, hate the "Law of Deaths of Action Characters at the End of the First Arc."

The Law of Amnesia references another scene that brings out the bitterness in me. Grr.

As for Chizuru's scene, I can't think of any specific scenes it references. I wonder if it's just a general parody.

For some reason, it looks like Mafuyu was nopan today.^^U

I'm not quite sure how to understand Mafuyu's look at the end of the show. I hope they explain more about it in the next episode.

- Oh good, Ken asked the question that's been stuck in my head. Why are you holding that, Mafuyu?

Does a cute character need a reason to hold a sweat potato?

[evilarrex]

I'm not quite sure how to understand Mafuyu's look at the end of the show. I hope they explain more about it in the next episode.



I watched the raw of 11 and ooooooh yessssssssssss!

[Fencedude]

You know, some questions don't call for answers.

Anyway, episode was hilarious.

Nopan Mafuyu is a concept that needs to be explored more thoroughly

[Suwako Moriya]

You know, some questions don't call for answers.

That and sometimes the answer is as simple as "Just because".

Nopan Mafuyu is a concept that needs to be explored more thoroughly

A fanservice oriented DVD special based on that would be awesome.

[evilarrex]

The truly fun part is near the end as Mafuyu has something to tell Ken.

I wasnt expecting that!
Nevertheless its welcome.

This a 12 or 13 episode series? If so the last few episodes now have the potential to give us the truly epic otaku fantasy fanboi Ending! ;)
Although I'm prepared to put teh smart money that it will fall short of that. Still one can but hope.....

[Suwako Moriya]

This a 12 or 13 episode series?

It's 12 episodes, so the next will be the final one. Also, I expect some progress to be made, but I don't think we'll get 100% closure. Still they can solve the problem by giving us additional seasons.

[Suwako Moriya]

Heh, I just realized something. They could easily negate the progress that Ken's made with Mafuyu by having him bring up the harem stuff.:sweat:

[HitokiriShadow]

... And then there were none. Until Lilicia the Endless Witch brought them back to live and forced them to all die in that student council room over and over again.

It was nice to see Lilicia get a few lines in, this show could use a lot more of her.

Oh, and yay for the return of Sheep Costume Chizuru ~Mokyu.

[Nork22]

The truly fun part is near the end as Mafuyu has something to tell Ken.

I approve of this.

[Draneor]

First volume sold 5,320 copies (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-15/japan-animation-dvd-ranking-december-7-13). Not exactly spectacular, but all right, I guess.

[Suwako Moriya]

First volume sold 5,320 copies (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-15/japan-animation-dvd-ranking-december-7-13). Not exactly spectacular, but all right, I guess.

Nice to get an idea of the first volume, but as usual the real fun will be the second volume to see what the initial drop off rate for the series is like.

[Vegard Aune]

HOLY SHIT MAFUYU JUST CONFESSED OMG THIS IS THE BEST EPISODE EVER!!!
Also, lol ED. ~I AM KAICHOU~

[Draneor]

Mafuyu route! Mafuyu route! Helping Others on the net Mafuyu. Tsundere Mafuyu. Yandere Mafuyu. Sad Mafuyu in snow. Earning Amazon.co.jp commission Mafuyu. Shy Mafuyu. Bold Mafuyu. Defending her friend Mafuyu. Confessing Mafuyu! I'm in heaven.

[Nosredna]

I think the only thing I remember from the episode is Mafuyu confessing, I would have never expected that. Now the question is, does Sugisaki screw things up, or do they all confess to him? And next episode is the final episode? The thought of that makes me sad. This has easily been my favorite show the season. Oh and I'm with the people who don't think anything will get resolved. Here's for a season 2!

[evilarrex]

And next episode is the final episode? The thought of that makes me sad. This has easily been my favorite show the season.

Episode 12 is the last episode and they mock us about it as well! :( Stinkers!

[something]

Episode 11:

- Hahah, shot down.
- Uh oh, Mafuyu is a "fated encounter" type! That was quite sweet...
- So a meeting without Ken. Poor Mafuyu, she suggests something serious and is shot down for being too normal. She should go hang out with Hito Nami.
- Only a hundred million yen >_>
- HOLY SHIT TWINTAIL TSUNDERE MAFUYU.
- A yandere blog. XD
- Kurimu's job is enjo kousai with Chizuru... oh hell yes.
- Pettanko, Kurimu's trigger.
- Hah, Ken's paperwork supply bag provided much amusement.
- Man they're sure playing up Ken's shitty past. Not enough eps left!
- But fuck yeah Mafuyu. <3 Kurimu was pretty awesome here. That guy is lucky she didn't ask Chizuru for help, or he'd be dead. :sd:
- Minatsu too! And the at the end Chizuru is given the green light to pummel them... XD
- Lilicia! <3
- Awww. They all get along so well.

Woah, holy shit! Mafuyu confessed! Are we really going down the Mafuyu route? That'd be quite interesting. However they've set him up with pretty much everyone at this point.

And the ED is fantastic as always. Possibly my favorite yet. Love love love this show.

As for the preview... lol, would they really pretend the confession never happened? :sd:

[Draneor]

[W]ould they really pretend the confession never happened? :sd:

If they don't and Ken goes for it, I'll be ordering. If they do, I'll be passing.

[Fencedude]

Holy crap Mafuyu route GETTO

I really have no idea if they are going to play this straight or not.

[evilarrex]

Holy crap Mafuyu route GETTO


The problem with Mafuyu getto is what you actually "get". Remember she is a crazy BL Otaku!

[Draneor]

Remember she is a crazy BL Otaku!

You say this like that's a bad thing?

[Suwako Moriya]

Woah, holy shit! Mafuyu confessed! Are we really going down the Mafuyu route? That'd be quite interesting. However they've set him up with pretty much everyone at this point.

They've also created a format for the series that allows them breathing room. In the sense that both a "serious" final episode and a "silly" final episode are valid given what's happened so far.

And the ED is fantastic as always. Possibly my favorite yet. Love love love this show.

Which means you'll be sure to place your vote right?

[Suwako Moriya]

Wow! That guy actually does exist! He also gets screen time.

We also get talk about each of the girls.

[Draneor]

Well, that was resolved in a rather Mafuyu way. But I'm still disappointed. ;_; The fanservice shots partially makes up for it though.

Sugisaki, die! Die! Die! Die! How dare you even joke about corrupting that holy brand with your vile presence! Oh, and "Tori no Uta" is the national anthem.

Nakameguro route! Fuck yeah! Go for it!

Aka-chan was the reason Sugisaki started playing galge? That's awesome. We also briefly get a glimpse at a serious Sugisaki.

And we come back to where we started. I'd say this is the best ending I've seen so far this season.

[something]

Episode 12:

- Oh good, they're playing this straight. With jokes thrown in, but they manage to be funny without detracting from the moment.
- Well, essentially. So she loves him, but just wanted to tell him. Not actually start dating. Because she loves the student council most of all. Man, sounds like she really is up for the harem ending. So it is kinda like they misled us, but they're apparently not going to actually end with him "picking" anyone, which I guess is okay.
- Kurimu is immortal!! XD
- MAFUYU IS A BOXER! Oh lord.
- Oh man, Hikaru no Go would have been SO much better with Mafuyu in the lead.
- Minatsu is delightfully heartless.
- I love chibi Kurimu bouncing in the background behind Ken when they corner Minatsu.
- The kids are adorable. Where's the little Kurimu though? ;_;
- "Migrating to Mars." XD
- Kurimu has the best dream.
- BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Do I even need to clarify what I'm reacting to? Fucking epic.
- Ero-Ero soft. :sd:
- And now we meet Ken's real lover.
- Hahah, Mafuyu fangirling out is great. See, she may love him but what she means is that she loves to see him love other boys. :sd: I can totally understand the feeling in a yuri sense, Mafuyu. I know where you're coming from!
- Holy crap Mafuyu. <3
- Nakameguro sparkles! Go for the BL end! Go for the BL end! As long as Kurimu stays as Chizuru's, I'm happy.
- Ah there's the Kurimu scene. Hmmm, so who was the past president? Did they ever say in earlier eps?
- And Kurimu is responsible for Ken's obsession. o_O Not sure how good that advice is generally, but it worked for Ken. :sd:
- "We'll run up to season ten..." Fuck, I would love every second of it.
- Wow, they're even referencing currently airing shows. :sd:

NO! IT MUST CONTINUE!

That was just a perfect ending and god damn I want to see more. This show is the surprise of Fall 2009 for me.

[something]

You know, thinking about it more, this might just be the best indecisive harem ending I've ever seen. Usually they're somewhere between "eh" and terrible, but this was fantastic.

Actually, scratch that, "indecisive harem ending" isn't accurate. I dub this the "decisive harem ending"!

[Fencedude]

AHAHAHAHAH

Mafuyu totally stole the episode. GO GO MAFUYU-CHAN!

[Suwako Moriya]

Actually, scratch that, "indecisive harem ending" isn't accurate. I dub this the "decisive harem ending"!

And hence why it's so effective. Sure, he's going after all of them, but at least he's making a choice. Also, it's nice that he's not afraid to be around females.

[Draneor]

I dub this the "decisive harem ending"!

I sort of came away with the impression that Sugisaki doesn't actually like the council members in a romantic way. Instead, his desire is more pure--he just wants to make them happy--to repay everything they did for him without them realizing it. To do that, he uses humor to cloak his true intentions. For the entire series, Sugisaki has tried to protect the council by, for example, becoming the target of the newspaper club. He also constantly frustrates any attempt at serious business with his off-topic remarks but then does the actual work in secret. By knowing exactly what will push everyone's buttons, he ensures that they have a good time and never have to do bloody paperwork.^^

Well, I'm not sure if there is no truth in his jokes. I do think Sugisaki is a much more complex character than the Mr. Harem we were led to believe he was in episode one.

[something]

I sort of came away with the impression that Sugisaki doesn't actually like the council members in a romantic way. Instead, his desire is more pure--he just wants to make them happy--to repay everything they did for him without them realizing it.
...
Well, I'm not sure if there is no truth in his jokes. I do think Sugisaki is a complex character though.
I think he would be open to it in the future, but for now I agree. And they all feel the same way. Ken has obviously overcome some serious issues only very recently, so for him they're like his four guardian angels, who he wants to guard in return. Whether and how that becomes romantic down the line is another matter, and doesn't matter right now - hence why the show not going "the Mafuyu route" is totally okay with me. Neither of them are truly ready for that, or need that. They value "the student council" as a whole over any bilateral romance.

Ken definitely is a complex character, far more than the light tone of the series and constant otaku in-jokes would make one think. That goes for the whole show, really. Easily one of the most skillful blends of absurd comedy and unexpected emotional moments I can think of.

[Suwako Moriya]

Ken definitely is a complex character, far more than the light tone of the series and constant otaku in-jokes would make one think. That goes for the whole show, really. Easily one of the most skillful blends of absurd comedy and unexpected emotional moments I can think of.

The series definitely had a lot more weight to it than episode 1 would have lead me to believe. It takes quite a bit of skill to balance the aspects that the series tried to mix together.

[William K]

Very nice ending for a show that had no plot at all :)

I love how each of the girl's names reflect the seasons. Minatsu and Mafuyu has both natsu and fuyu of course. Kurimu's family name is Sakurano, representing the sakura blossoms of Spring and Chizuru's family name is Akaba, literally the red leaves of Fall.

[Vegard Aune]

...So wait, she's in love with the guy but she has absolutely no interest in going out with him? WTF IS THIS NONSENSE?! I HEREBY DECLARE THE REST OF THE EPISODE TO BE NON-CANON!!!
...But clearly, being in a non-canon segment doesn't stop Sugisaki from being awesome. Ooh, call-back to the first episode!
...And Chizuru is still evil. Do they even realize that this never happens?
...And Kurimu wants to be God. Right.
...Sugisaki wants to form an eroge-company named Key. DO IT!!!
...You know Sugisaki, perhaps you might want to stop suggesting companies that already exist... Even though Sugisaki + Key = supreme awesomeness.
DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT SUGISAKI'S LACK OF CHARACTER-DEVELOPMENT! HIS CHARACTER WAS ALREADY PERFECT TO BEGIN WITH!!!
Wow. Mafuyu's OC just appeared in the club-room. What. The. Hell? I mean, it's awesome, but... what?
...And Sugisaki just entered the Nakameguro-route. Sure is a good thing this episode is non-canon.
It doesn't matter if it's a failure as a BL. YAOI SUCKS!!! YAOI-FANGIRLS ARE AWESOME, THOUGH!^
Sugisaki... YOU'RE BEING TOO NICE TO THE GUY! I DEMAND THAT YOU GO LAND ON A BAD END RIGHT NOW!!! Again, sure is a good thing this episode never happened.
And Mafuyu is spying on them. As awesome as she is, she had better be wrong about this!
...So wait, Sugisaki plays H-games... eh... ALL-AGES VISUAL NOVELS because Kurimu told him to? :/
Well, what do you know? Seems he WASN'T just a pervert after all. Maybe I ought to stop denying that any of this ever happened?
...Ok, I think I can accept this episode as canon after all. Sure, my much-wanted Sugisaki/Mafuyu-pairing never came to be, but other than that, this was surprisingly good for being the ending to a show that was more or less about nothing at all. Actually, that goes for the show as a whole, seeing how after seeing the first episode, I didn't expect the show to be any good at all. Yet now, I think I can say that this is the best show I've seen this season... Then again, I only watched three, whereas one of them was a lame sequel to a show I never really liked much to begin with, so that might not be saying much.

...Wow, I don't think I've made a post about a single episode that was this long since the end of Clannad After Story... Perhaps more series ought to start off with events that force me to go on a long-ass rant about everything that happens? In any case, excellent series all in all, and I sure hope Mahiru-sensei's line at the end turns out to be wrong, because I'd love to see another season... Not one including the stuff the girls were talking about, though.:sweat:

[Nosredna]

So it's the girls fault he acts the way he does, I didn't really expect that. Minatsu wanting to be a bride was my favorite part. Decent way to the end the show. I guess I should have expected nothing would really be resolved. I'm still for another season!

[DenpaWa]

Actually, scratch that, "indecisive harem ending" isn't accurate. I dub this the "decisive harem ending"!

And hence why it's so effective. Sure, he's going after all of them, but at least he's making a choice. Also, it's nice that he's not afraid to be around females.

It's kind of the reverse of other harem shows. In those, all the girls are interested in the guy, who usually can't pick one.

In this show, he doesn't have them, they all have him. And the reason why was great, especially as it was unexpectedly serious.

[Draneor]

Even though Sugisaki + Key = supreme awesomeness

You just lost your kagikko card right there.

The last thing Key needs is better ero content.*

[Fencedude]

The last thing Key needs is better ero content.

Well, their existing ero content is pretty bad, so making it better couldn't hurt.

I do think that just not having it is better for them though.

[Draneor]

I do think that just not having it is better for them though.

Exactly. Key + Ero is heresy.

[Vegard Aune]

Even though Sugisaki + Key = supreme awesomeness

You just lost your kagikko card right there.

The last thing Key needs is better ero content.*
And since when was Sugisaki a good writer of erotic content anyway? Last time I checked, Key's visual novels also had a fair bit of comedy to them, and I'd say he'd probably do quite perfectly in that regard.

(Though I doubt having non-horrible H-scenes would negatively affect the quality of the rest of the games, either. Not that I'd know anything about how horrible they are at the moment.)

[HitokiriShadow]

Noooo, we didn't get to see Mafuyu's yandere blog. ;_;

Mafuyu attacks! The whole meeting between the girls and the guys from Sugisaki's middle school was pretty good, but Mafuyu using physical violence was especially satisfying to watch.

And it looks like Sugisaki hit enough flags to activate the Mafuyu route.

Also, needs more Lilicia as usual, but at least she had some screentime this episode and a few nice bits.

I haven't been paying attention to the lyrics for the ED (though I knew from some discussion on a much earlier episode that it switched things up both in the lyrics and who sings) but I read/listened to the end of this one and it was pretty amusing. I AM KAICHOU.

[HitokiriShadow]

So Mafuyu really did mean what she said, it wasn't some misunderstanding of fumbled words like I thought it might be. But she doesn't actually want a relationship with Ken, she just wanted to get it off her chest and say it. Kind of makes sense for her. Sorry Ken, Mafuyu route is a no go after all.

Then the real Nakameguro appears and Mafuyu is in her happy place. She's absolutely ecstatic... and adorable while trying to push Ken into his life of BL while she records it on her camcorder.

Most amusingly, we learn that Aka-chan is responsible for turning Ken into the guy he is today, by actually telling him to play ero-games and become like the main characters of those games. The whole part with Ken talking about how he was inspired by the girls was really cute.

Also, adorable ghost Mafuyu!

And I can't believe they referenced the flying panties from a show that just aired this season.

[Draneor]

Apparently, someone went and created Mafuyu's blog ( http://amemushi.jp/naizouharetsu/).

[pianocello]

Having finished this, I will say that this show is...okay. I don't get how everyone on this thread is going on about how amazing this show is but there is at least one blog that is somewhat negative (more so than me) about the show. The show actually got better when they started getting dramatic and serious. After the buildup in ep 11, the last episode felt anti-climatic though. Seriously, I thought we would have a dramatic ending with Ken going the Mafuyu route or the harem route.
Meh...at least this is better than School Rumble.

[TheGreenMan]

More anime is coming:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-17/seitokai-no-ichizon-light-novels-gets-more-anime

[something]

More anime is coming:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-17/seitokai-no-ichizon-light-novels-gets-more-anime

Yeah, this is a very very happy occasion. <3 The first season was way better than it should have been and here's hoping the rest (although it could just be an OAV or OAD for all we know?) is just as good.

[Nagato-san]

More anime is coming:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-17/seitokai-no-ichizon-light-novels-gets-more-anime

Yeah, this is a very very happy occasion. <3 The first season was way better than it should have been and here's hoping the rest (although it could just be an OAV or OAD for all we know?) is just as good.

Agreed! SnI was probably one of my top ten shows from '09. I really enjoyed it, but also feared that it would wind up like so many other light novel adaptations that are seemingly forgotten by Japanese production studios.

You're right about it being far better than a show like that should be. Everything about it just worked so well together though. The music, the dialogue, character interactions, etc. It really just resonated with me far more than the typical gag anime does (not that I don't like gag anime).

Best news of the week. Even if it's an OVA/OAD, I'm still pretty happy to just get more.

[superdry]

Yeah, this is a very very happy occasion. <3

My sentiments exactly. I really like the show even though I remember that the last few episodes kind of dragged along.

[Suwako Moriya]

More anime is coming:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-17/seitokai-no-ichizon-light-novels-gets-more-anime

I approve of this good news. Especially if it means plenty of quality time with the Kurimu.