Winter season 2009/2010 season

[oo7565]

here the list of shows which will start right after the first of the year.

http://chartfag.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/winter-09-10-v1.jpg


Fanily it looks like i will be abel to catch up on the ton of backlog series i have to watch yess.


I will watch a few of this season not lot I will list what i like later but kinda week in my mind what do you guys think

[something]

Easy enough: everything on the list is a definite watch except for Harukanaru and Kewpie.

Most importantly (in order listed on chart):
Durarara!! (Brains Base!)
Dance in the Vampire Bund (SHAFT!)
Nodame Cantabile Finale (JC Staff!)
Hidamari Sketch x *** (SHAFT!)

Three of the best studios that exist right there. Too bad there's no KyoAni (they're rather busy with Shoushitsu) or Sunrise though.

Hopefully A-1 recovers a bit (I wasn't really feeling Valkyria and Birdy 2 fell apart) with that So-Ra-No-Wo-To (damn that's going to get annoying to type).

Katanagatari is going to work to have to win me over to that art style but after Bakemonogatari I'm up for anything Nishio Ishin. Though it's not SHAFT, so I'm going to make sure I don't set my expectations anywhere near Bakemonogatari.

Hanamaru Kindergarten wins for the lulz of seeing it's by Gainax.

Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu will get watched because light novel anime is on a winning streak and the pink hair chick reminds me of Louise.

As for Okamikakushi and Seikon no Quasar, I'm just going off the image. Suppose those will be the "serious" ones.

Omamori Himari, Ladies vs Butlers and ChuuBra, I assume will cover fanservice.

So yeah only two shows are out of the running and one is a sequel to something I've never seen.

[Andrew Cunningham]

It looks like more of a genre mix than the fall, at any rate.

Katanagatari...well, let's hope it works better than the novels.
Dulalala!! is obviously the show to beat.
Soranowoto -- crazy punctuation be damned -- has a sort of prestige project gloss on it, and...well, the director is the dude responsible for Elfen Lied. He clearly has some sort of talent, and I keep vaguely hoping he'll manage to find the project that lets it shine.
Vampire Bund certainly has a striking image and plot description. Guess I will try.

[something]

Vampire Bund certainly has a striking image and plot description. Guess I will try.
I hadn't actually read the description, it was just an automatic watch for me due to Shaft + crazy naked blond vampirori but... ::reads:: Haha, oh wow. That's certainly unique.

[Betenoire]

I think outside of Kewpie I may give them all a shot, though I'll have to watch the previous series for the sequels.

Durarara!!
So-Ra-No-Wo-To
Vampire Bund
are the three I most want to check out and everything else falls into a nebulous middle ground that will depend on time, interest and other factors. Going by the premise some will get a longer leash than others, and if any are on CR that will also likely extend it's leash with me a bit as well.

[Fencedude]

Vampire Bund certainly has a striking image and plot description. Guess I will try.
I hadn't actually read the description, it was just an automatic watch for me due to Shaft + crazy naked blond vampirori but... ::reads:: Haha, oh wow. That's certainly unique.

I've read the first two volumes, and its pretty awesome, Mina's AMAZING. You'll love her.

[Sly05]

Top of the List
Durarara!!
Dance in the Vampire Bund: The manga's pretty good and the trailer is awesome. Also naked loli vampires.
Nodame Cantabile Finale: The previous two series were wonderful so I'm looking forward to it.
Hidimari Sketch: More Hidimari is always a good thing.

Looks Interesting so I'll Probably Try Them Out
SoRaNoWaTo
Hanamaru Kindergarten: I read a couple chapters of the manga a while back. It was okay.

Maybe
Katanagatari: A maybe, the art style and ninja stuff isn't really doing much for me.
Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu: The artwork looks nice though the description tells me not to expect much from it.
Ladies versus Butlers: I've never been much of a maid guy, but silly comedy shows like this (or at least it sounds like it is) are fun every once in a while.

WTF?
Qwaser of Stigmata: So he draws his power from breast milk, huh...

[HitokiriShadow]

Durarara!! and Dance in the Vampire Bund are the ones I'm looking forward to the most. Durara for being by Brains Base and the guy who wrote Baccano. Vampire Bund for being by Shaft, having an awesome trailer, and looking like it will be awesome for various reasons. I've been interested in the Vampire Bund manga for a while (as in, since the first volume came out...) but I only recently ordered it and I'm not going to actually read it until I finish watching the anime.

So-Ra-No-Wo-To sticks out because of the animation studio involved and good looking character designs, or at least as far as one can tell from those tiny images. Studio A-1 has shown they are far from perfect with Birdy 02 and Valkyria Chronicles, but they've still hit more than they've missed, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not sure what to make of Hanamaru Kindergarten, but while I'm no Gainax fanboy (Gurren Lagann and Mahoromatic are the only titles of theirs I have any particular affection for, though I enjoyed some of their other shows to some degree or another), the fact that they are doing this means I should at least check it out.

Hidamari Sketch is a fairly middle of the road show for me, but I enjoyed the previous seasons enough to watch another. Katanagatari's artstyle doesn't pull me in but I'll watch some of it purely because its based on something by Nisioisin.

Aside from Kewpie and the sequels I'll be skipping because I never saw previous seasons, the rest all look like they have at least decent potential and I'll certainly be trying them out. Hidden God's image is particularly nice.

[einhorn303]

So-Ra-No-Wo-To interests me quite a bit, probably the most out of all the shows. And I feel that, from where it's coming, it will end up airing on CrunchyRoll.

I *am* a Gainax fanboy, so I think Hanamaru Kindergarten is assured to be awesome. And kind-hearted kindergarten teachers are moe.

Hidamari Sketch x *** (wait, it seems kind of obscene like that) I look forward to getting from Sentai.

Am I the only guy who finds the art style of the Vampire Bund manga a bit weird and un-ero? The anime seems to have generic'ed up the art a bit, though, as most anime adaptions do.

Okami Kakushi is, I believe, based on a story by 07th Expansion. That counts for something.

Chu-bra!! and Stigmata no Qwaser, to CR with you both. Wait, what, don't you guys understand the eroticism of lactation?

[ilmaestro]

Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu will get watched because light novel anime is on a winning streak
Is it still classed as a streak when it goes on and on and doesn't seem like stopping? ^^;

[Funkatron]

Shows that look interesting:

* Katanagatari is a watch simply because of its deceptively simple art style.
* Dance of the Vampire Bund has a really interesting premise that could end up either totally awesome or totally fail.

Head scratchers:

* Chu-bra.... ummm what now? Underwear club??
* Qwaser: so he draws his power from... breast milk? Bwahahahaaa!!!!!
* Kewpie:..... what?

Yeah, wow

[Suwako Moriya]

I'm going to take it one series at a time starting from the top and going left to right. So here goes nothing.

Durarara

I think the "headless" part is what stands out most about it. Other than that, it sounds like the type of thing I won't be sure of until after I try an episode or two of. I can also imagine myself waiting until a few episodes are out first and then trying it.


Dance in the Vampire Bund

It definitely has the Shaft factor going for it and it does sound like it has quite a lot of potential to be interesting. However I'm starting to get the impression from comments that I've read that it might be go a bit too far in some regards. Which makes me kind of hesitant.

Sora-Ra-No-Wo-To

I'm honestly not sure what to think of this yet. I might give it an episode or two see what it's actually about.


Hanamuru Kindergarten

Well, this will either be an annoying series or a cutesy series. Only time will tell in that regard. Will likely give it an episode or two.


Nodame Cantabile Finale

Since I never did get around to watching the firt or second season, I don't have any real basis for trying this third season.


Katanagatari

The designs look curious, but beyond tha I can't say much right now.


Qwaser of Stigmata

I have no idea what to say about this.

Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu

This sounds like it has potential to be an amusing series depending on how well the group interacts together.

Hidamari Sketch x ***

Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes. This one I'll definitely be watching. Looking forward to spending more quality time with pre-existing characters and any new ones that might show up too.

Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3

I don't think I ever watched one or two, so pass

Hidden God

Not sure what to think of this one.

Rose O'Neill's Kewpie

I don't think I'm the target audience.


Omamamori Himari

I'd need more information or see a sample of it.


Ladies vs Butlers

Ah, so the epic battle can truly begin? In any case, not much to say about this one.


Chu-Bra!!

It's clear that this is going to be fanservice focused, but a lot of it will depend on two factors. How forced the fanservice being the first. The second would be related to the underwear stuff. If they're going to have an anime focused on such things they should make sure there's a variety in terms of what the girls are wearing.
---------------------------------------------------

It looks like in the end save for the third season of Hidamari Sketch, it's mostly a bunch of maybe titles in my case save for the select titles that are likely to be a no. Which is fine, I'm currently focused on Autumn right now anyway.

[LelouchLamperouge]

No Questions Asked
Durarara - Most definitely the one to beat for Winter 2010. It's going to be nothing short of amazing.
Katanagatari - NisiOisin stuff, goes without saying I'll watch this every month as eps come out.

Will Try
Dance in the Vampire Bund - Plot sounds interesting but I don't like Shaft. A few episodes at least.
Okami Kakushi/Hidden God - Ryukishi07 and Peach-Pit? I'll give it a shot. It can't be too bad.
So-Ra-No-Wo-To - This is going to be a very good hit or very much miss. Hoping for a hit.
Hanamaru Yochien - It's Gainax and usually they are hit or miss. I'll watch a few episodes.
Ladies Versus Butlers - Looks ridiculously stupid, but I'll watch an episode or two.
Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu - Same as Ladies Vs. Butlers. Looks stupid, will give it a shot, etc.

Burn them in a fire
Qwaser of Stigmata - oh hi Queen's Blade...
Omamori Himari - Looks like generic crap to me.
Chu-Bra!! - ... ugh. No.

I don't include sequels, unless I've seen the previous.

At least this season has some good possibility in it.

[Draneor]

Isn't it a bit early? I'm sure more will be announced.

Under R2 Consideration:
BakaTest

Intend to Watch:
Hanamaru Kindergarten*
Ladies Vs Butlers.
Omamori Himari
So-Ra-No-Wo-To

Curious
Chu-Bra

If I Ever Finish the First Season:
Hidamari Sketch× ☆☆☆

*Not sure if I'll break my "no more Gainax" rule.

[tadakichi]

Hmm... I'll probably check out almost everything that isn't a sequel, but there are a few that catch my eye due to their pedigree and/or description.

Ookamikakushi
Ryuukishi07 = automatic watch. Echoes of Higurashi in the setting and description, which is a very good thing.

Durarara!!
Kure-nai was one of the best shows of 2008, so I'm totally up for another Brain's Base light novel adaptation.

So-ra-no-Wo-to
Appealing character designs, interesting premise, and the Elfen Lied guy directing. Yep, I'm definitely checking this out.

Hanamaru Youchien
Can't help getting Kodomo no Jikan vibes from this. Not that that's a bad thing. Oh, and Gainax.

[bci110]

I'm skipping Kewpie and the sequals. For Kewpie, I don't know if using characatures fron the early 1900's will succeed in today's tech-savvy society, but you never know.

Shows I'm definitely watching:

Durarara!! (Brain's Base): Brain's Base + writer of Baccano! = must see. And I agree with what others already mentioned that it could be the top show of the winter season.
So-Ra-No-Wo-To (A-1 Pictures): The concept sounds pretty interesting and I liked what I've seen from A-1 Pictures lately so it's on my watch list.
Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu (Silver Link): This show has a lot of potential to be a pretty good character-driven series.
Ladies vs. Butlers! (Xebec): I'll watch it if only to help support Xebec, a studio I still like but haven't seen anything good from them since Stellvia. Hopefully this series will work well for them.
Chu-Bra!! (ZEXCS): I'll declare this as my "replacement" for SoraOto once that series finishes at the end of the year.

Shows I'll give a try:

Dance in the Vampire Bund (SHAFT): I'm not a SHAFT fan, but the concept sounds intreging so I'll give it a look.
Hanamaru Kindergarten (GAINAX): Like Lelouch said, GAINAX is mainly hit or miss but I'll give this a couple of episodes. I think this will end up being a miss in my view.
Qwaser of Stigmata (Taki): I was going to pass on this, but the "he draws his power from breast milk" tagline amped my curiosity. I'll watch at least a couple of episodes to see where they will take this unique plot device.

No interest:

Katanagatari
Hidden God
Omamori Himari
Kwepie
The sequals to Nodame Cantabile, Hidamari Sketch, and Harakanaru Toki, mainly because I heven't seen the prior seasons yet.

[something]

Ladies vs. Butlers! (Xebec): I'll watch it if only to help support Xebec, a studio I still like but haven't seen anything good from them since Stellvia. Hopefully this series will work well for them.
Sounds like you need to watch Heroic Age! it manages to be even better than Stellvia, which is one of my favorite shows. Pandora Hearts was pretty good too, if incomplete (waiting on a second season hopefully).

I'm not a SHAFT fan
I don't understand these words.

[bci110]

I'm not a SHAFT fan
I don't understand these words.

Figures you wouldn't, and I would say the same thing if someone says "I'm not a Madhouse fan" :P .

And I'll give Heroic Age a look when I get a chance. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Draneor]

I'm not a SHAFT fan
I don't understand these words.

SHAFT can over do it.

"I'm not a Madhouse fan" :P .

Apart from Galaxy Angel, I'm not a Madhouse fan.

[something]

SHAFT can over do it.
They've been really good about it lately though. Ef-melodies is the last time - one of the only times, actually - I really felt like they went overboard in a really bad way, and even that show saved itself in the end. From the Vampire Bund trailer I saw awhile back, I couldn't even tell it was Shaft, it looked so... normal. I'm sure they'll add their touch though. In fact I hope they do. Hidamari has also always been entirely appropriate in its artistic approach. For currently and recently finished, I think Zetsubou, Arashi and especially Bakemonogatari have been entirely reasonable. Arashi had a rough first episode for some people but nobody has complained along the same lines since then.

Apart from Galaxy Angel, I'm not a Madhouse fan.
No Cardcaptor Sakura? ;_;

[Draneor]

No Cardcaptor Sakura? ;_;

I've never seen it. I intended to watch it when I bought it, but, like almost every DVD I own, I never got around to it.

[Glamrgrl104]

These two look interesting Durara and Vampire Bund

although I have been wanting to see Nodome too.

[TheGreenMan]

Despera? Isn't this airing in the winter?

[bci110]

Despera? Isn't this airing in the winter?

I guess not. Do we know which studio is handling the animation production yet?

[EmperorBrandon]

I'll just going to C&P Suika's list here, since he's already typed out all of the titles (no need to do them again :) ) Only got brief remarks on many of these...

Durarara - I just watched Baccano recently and enjoyed it, so this may be something to try out.
Dance in the Vampire Bund - I'm feeling unsure on this one for some reason. It depends on whether I hear good comments on it.
Sora-Ra-No-Wo-To - I really like the original character designs and the anime staff looks very good. I'm rather curious.
Hanamuru Kindergarten - Another one I'm very curious on, particularly since it seems like the kind of show the director and studio isn't known for. :) My interest in Gainax titles is mixed, but one of my favorites is a cute series (Yucie), so that has my interest up.
Nodame Cantabile Finale - I've never seen the previous series, though I might at some point.
Katanagatari - Not much interest in trying this at the moment.
Qwaser of Stigmata - Uncertain on trying at moment.
Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu - Seems like it could be interesting.
Hidamari Sketch x *** - Still never watched past a few eps. of the first series. If I get Sentai's set and get interested in more, I may get to it but that won't be soon most likely.
Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3 - Have not seen the previous series, and firmly not interested.
Hidden God - I'm not certain on trying this. If I hear good things, then maybe.
Rose O'Neill's Kewpie - No interest in this.
Omamamori Himari - Doesn't look like anything special, but I'll try if I hear people liking it. Character design looks cute at least.
Ladies vs Butlers - Unsure on this one. Don't think I like the anime character designs. But again, this is a maybe if I hear good things (as with most).
Chu-Bra!! - I'm actually somewhat intrigued on this, given the staff. I'm curious to try at least.

[EmperorBrandon]

No Cardcaptor Sakura? ;_;

I've never seen it. I intended to watch it when I bought it, but, like almost every DVD I own, I never got around to it.

I would recommend checking it out. I think it might be one you would like. Galaxy Angel also happens to be a big favorite of mine from Madhouse. In fact, same director between those two. CCS isn't at all random like GA, but it's really cute, sweet, and funny like GA can be.

[ilmaestro]

Will be looking on Durarara!!, Dance in the Vampire Bund, SoRaNoWoTo, BakaTest and Okamikakushi for sure. One or two others (Katanagatari, Ladies vs Butlers!) I'll wait on reading some opinions before I bother with.

[Mitsuki]

Definitlely watching
Soranowoto
Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
Hidamari Sketch x ***
Omamori Himari
Ladies vs Butlers!

May give a few episodes a shot
Durarara!!
Dance in the Vampire Bund
Hidden God
Chu-Bra!!

[Ty]

No Little Busters...... yet.

[Suwako Moriya]

No Little Busters...... yet.

Perhaps the universe is not ready to experience the anime of that yet? Hopefully it will be soon, since it's the best way for me to get an idea what it's like. Assuming it's adapted in a reasonable way.

[something]

No Little Busters...... yet.Perhaps the universe is not ready to experience the anime of that yet? Hopefully it will be soon, since it's the best way for me to get an idea what it's like. Assuming it's adapted in a reasonable way.
I wouldn't expect Little Busters before Spring at earliest. I can't imagine KyoAni will be doing anything but Shoushitsu until it's completed. So no fall or winter KyoAni... but it's worth it for me.

Besides, Little Busters will probably make me redo my top 10, and I don't want to have to decide on something to kick out just yet. =P

[Suwako Moriya]

Besides, Little Busters will probably make me redo my top 10, and I don't want to have to decide on something to kick out just yet. =P

To be honest, aside from having a "Most Wanted License" list, I've essentially given up on the idea of a top 10.

Sure early on it's not that hard to make one. However as time passes the decision of what to add and what to remove becomes too frustrating.

Plus I find rather than thinking of it as one show replacing another, it's a case of the list increasing by +1. Whether Little Busters will be +1 to the list of shows I like or +1 to the list of shows I don't remains to be seen.

[Westlo]

No Little Busters...... yet.Perhaps the universe is not ready to experience the anime of that yet? Hopefully it will be soon, since it's the best way for me to get an idea what it's like. Assuming it's adapted in a reasonable way.
I wouldn't expect Little Busters before Spring at earliest. I can't imagine KyoAni will be doing anything but Shoushitsu until it's completed. So no fall or winter KyoAni... but it's worth it for me.

Besides, Little Busters will probably make me redo my top 10, and I don't want to have to decide on something to kick out just yet. =P

Well VN readers are saying that Little Busters needs a higher animation budget than anything else KyoAni have done.. so yeah I doubt you'll see it in Spring 2010 either.. Hopefully Little Busters or another Full Metal Panic series for Fall 2010.

[boogiecat]

The anime version of Little Busters can wait...

Oh well looking forward to watch Nodame Cantabile Finale next year at last..

[DiGiKerot]

Durarara!! looks to be the priority for me. Maybe Katanagatari.

Qwaser of Stigmata is vaguely interesting because the manga was penned by Hiroyuki Yoshino, the main writer on the *HiME franchise (bar S.ifr) and Macross Frontier.

That said, Yoshino actually seems to be working on Vampire Bund.

Otherwise, nothing else looks immediately striking to me. I'll play wait and see, I guess.

[TheGreenMan]

[QUOTE=something;1678068]

Hanamaru Kindergarten wins for the lulz of seeing it's by Gainax.

QUOTE]


I remember posting a thread about this a while back. This could be epic as hell, or suck royally.

[Draneor]

No Little Busters...... yet.

I really can't wait for it to happen. On the other hand, I'd rather it not happen. Mainly because I would like a break after K-On!, and I'd rather not deal with all the bitching that it will cause.

Well VN readers are saying that Little Busters needs a higher animation budget than anything else KyoAni have done..

Little Busters! EX is slightly longer than Clannad and has more action scenes (if they don't cut them out). But if KyoAni could animate Clannad, they can certainly do Little Busters!.

I wouldn't expect Little Busters before Spring at earliest. I can't imagine KyoAni will be doing anything but Shoushitsu until it's completed. So no fall or winter KyoAni... but it's worth it for me.

The longer it is the more likely the anime experience will suffer from the same problem Umineko has.

[einhorn303]

Hanamaru Kindergarten wins for the lulz of seeing it's by Gainax.




I remember posting a thread about this a while back. This could be epic as hell, or suck royally.

Speaking of lulz, I think the preview trailer that Gainax has shown at a few American anime cons is pretty amusing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQQS0X_hCQA

[Westlo]

Well VN readers are saying that Little Busters needs a higher animation budget than anything else KyoAni have done..

Little Busters! EX is slightly longer than Clannad and has more action scenes (if they don't cut them out). But if KyoAni could animate Clannad, they can certainly do Little Busters!.

Yeah I heard that there was heaps of action scenes in Little Busters, if they're going to be animated with KyoAni's typical high standards it should be much more expensive than Clannad. Still I wonder if KyoAni is a lock for Little Busters in the first place since Key are now working with P.A Works.. Canann definitely shows they can do some sweet fight scenes.

[something]

The longer it is the more likely the anime experience will suffer from the same problem Umineko has.
Meaning what?

[Fencedude]

The longer it is the more likely the anime experience will suffer from the same problem Umineko has.
Meaning what?

Stuff gets cut out.

With a few exceptions, its fine, but the VN fans are whining. Of course they whined about Higurashi as well, and it was fine.

[TheGreenMan]

Hanamaru Kindergarten wins for the lulz of seeing it's by Gainax.




I remember posting a thread about this a while back. This could be epic as hell, or suck royally.

Speaking of lulz, I think the preview trailer that Gainax has shown at a few American anime cons is pretty amusing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQQS0X_hCQA

Cool. The trailer looks cute.

What is FMA doing in there?

[Draneor]

Still I wonder if KyoAni is a lock for Little Busters in the first place since Key are now working with P.A Works.. Canann definitely shows they can do some sweet fight scenes.

I'd be fine with P.A.Works. It just better not be someone like Xebec.

Meaning what?

It would be impossible to be on the internet and not get spoiled.

The nice thing about many visual novels, like the upcoming Shukufuku no Campanella anime, is that almost no English-speakers have played them. On the other hand, pretty much everyone--but me--has played Umineko. Given that Higurashi and Umineko are really the only shows I'm adamant about avoiding all spoilers, it can be a frustrating situation. So yeah. I'd avoid the internet if a certain event happens prior to the anime airing.

[something]

Stuff gets cut out.
Ah, well, that's fine. Converting a multi-path visual novel to a linear anime is going to have to do that. As long as they map out which storyline they want to include, and how they'll weave which other storylines into it on the side they can presumably get past that. I'm not sure how the Higurashi and Umineko VNs played (whether the different endings followed linearly or not) but for something like Clannad or Little Busters, they should be able to handle it. They did for Clannad, confusion at first viewing of the ending aside.

[Draneor]

Stuff gets cut out.

It's more that people were advocating certain interpretations about Umineko before the evidence had been revealed. I guess I should just give up and admit that, unlike Higurashi, I'm going to get spoiled.

[Fencedude]

Stuff gets cut out.

For me, it's more that people were advocating certain interpretations in Umineko before the evidence for them had been revealed. I guess I should just give up and admit that, unlike Higurashi, I'm going to get spoiled.

Well, thats a problem with the comentariat, not the show, technically.

We do try to avoid such things here, but certain people just can't seem to help themselves.

[something]

Impossible to be on the internet and not get spoiled.
Oh, that's a different problem. I think I've already seen one thing in Little Busters fanart that could be a plot point, though I won't know until it's made.

I managed to dodge most spoilers with Clannad, although it took very deliberate and concerted effort. And I did wind up getting spoiled on one big point, though thankfully not the biggest. I'd just have to do something similar with Little Busters - no fanart, no googling it, no wiki... and hoping no dipshits post/approve spoileriffic plot synopses on ANN (thanks jerks in the D.C. II entry!)

[Westlo]

The longer it is the more likely the anime experience will suffer from the same problem Umineko has.
Meaning what?

Stuff gets cut out.

With a few exceptions, its fine, but the VN fans are whining. Of course they whined about Higurashi as well, and it was fine.

The funny part is when Umineko fans act like Umineko is butchered worst than Higur.. yet Higur had 6 VNs stuffed into 26 episodes compared to Umineko's 4. And Higur was clearly made to be have a pseudo ending in case it wasn't popular enough to continue as well. I knew things were going to be bad for the anime when VN readers were whining about the manga being too fast paced.. I think the manga is the a great adaption and if the anime had followed it exactly (with 2-3 chapters per episode) it would've been so much better but that didn't happen..

Still it's hard not to be disappointed in the Umineko anime a lot, when you have 4 vns that are roughly 10 hours of reading each condensed into about 9 hours of animation than you'll lose a lot of stuff, that's obvious. But some of the choices DEEN have made have been horrendous, Maria in general and the pacing for the last 3 eps of arc 2 (9 and 10 too slow, 11 way to fast ffs) come to mind. I think they dropped the ball badly for the first two arcs but they picked their game up for the 3rd and the 4th is on track.

[Draneor]

Well, thats a problem with the comentariat, not the show, technically.

That's what I meant by "anime experience." Depending on the show, spoilers can decrease my enjoyment of the show. For other shows, I couldn't care less. I apologize if it was unclear.

[Westlo]

Stuff gets cut out.

For me, it's more that people were advocating certain interpretations about Umineko before the evidence had been revealed. I guess I should just give up and admit that, unlike Higurashi, I'm going to get spoiled.

Oh come on now, we really didn't need 20 weeks of people saying "Battler is a fucking moron, look there's magic" while VN readers sigh at DEEN's inability to make a vital plot point 100% clear.

[HitokiriShadow]

I'm not sure how the Higurashi and Umineko VNs played (whether the different endings followed linearly or not)

The Higurashi and Umineko games are completely linear. There are no branching paths or choices to make at all, so there are no multilinearity issues in adapting them. So adapting them into anime isn't really any different than adapting the Harry Potter books into movies.

[something]

The Higurashi and Umineko games are completely linear. There are no branching paths or choices to make at all, so there are no multilinearity issues in adapting them. So adapting them into anime isn't really any different than adapting the Harry Potter books into movies.
That's definitely when length can be a problem, then. If the majority of the "play time" of the original is part of stories mutually exclusive with chosen anime storyline (as in just about any romance visual novel) then you can effectively lop off 75% of the story and have a completely coherent anime. Particularly if you go four cour like Clannad. But if it's just one very long linear story, not so much.

[Ty]

Well VN readers are saying that Little Busters needs a higher animation budget than anything else KyoAni have done.. so yeah I doubt you'll see it in Spring 2010 either.. Hopefully Little Busters or another Full Metal Panic series for Fall 2010.

Not just budget, time. By word count it is even longer than Clannad was, a series that ran for 4 cour. There isn't any obvious place to break it up into two parts like Clannad had either. I respect the production planning difficulties the show presents, the fan in me just waaaants it.

[Draneor]

Not just budget, time. By word count it is even longer than Clannad was, a series that ran for 4 cour.

It was only around 4,000 words longer than Clannad. But yeah. The word count isn't really the issue...

[Ty]

Still I wonder if KyoAni is a lock for Little Busters in the first place since Key are now working with P.A Works.. Canann definitely shows they can do some sweet fight scenes.

If you are referring to Jun Maeda's upcoming Angel Beats anime, that isn't actually a Key property so I don't believe there is really a connection there besides Maeda himself.

[Ty]

It was only around 4,000 words longer than Clannad. But yeah. The word count isn't really the issue...

I personally think the biggest thing holding it up is that they can't really do it in two parts and take a break in between like Clannad was done. Well, I guess they could, but my understanding is the story doesn't naturally lend itself to it like Clannad did. They'll likely have to plan it as a single 50-ish episode run all in one continous airing.

Mmmmm, a full year of Key anime........ :)

[Suwako Moriya]

Speaking of lulz, I think the preview trailer that Gainax has shown at a few American anime cons is pretty amusing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQQS0X_hCQA

Well, that was somewhat amusing. Might have been more so if the video wasn't tilted in such a way that the text wasn't hard to read sometimes.

[tadakichi]

Still I wonder if KyoAni is a lock for Little Busters in the first place since Key are now working with P.A Works.. Canann definitely shows they can do some sweet fight scenes.

If you are referring to Jun Maeda's upcoming Angel Beats anime, that isn't actually a Key property so I don't believe there is really a connection there besides Maeda himself.

The original character designs were done by Na-Ga (illustrator of Little Busters!), so it's not just Maeda. Moreover, there's a fair amount of cross-promotion going on--just look at the Angel Beats homepage (http://www.angelbeats.jp/index.html) and the Key homepage (http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/). It's possible that the Key name and logo are just being used as a convenient shorthand for Maeda and Na-Ga; after all, in a certain sense Jun Maeda is Key. I can't really say for sure.

[tadakichi]

It was only around 4,000 words longer than Clannad. But yeah. The word count isn't really the issue...

I personally think the biggest thing holding it up is that they can't really do it in two parts and take a break in between like Clannad was done. Well, I guess they could, but my understanding is the story doesn't naturally lend itself to it like Clannad did. They'll likely have to plan it as a single 50-ish episode run all in one continous airing.

Mmmmm, a full year of Key anime........ :)

I'm not sure a single four cour season is even doable, though. When I heard that the new Fullmetal Alchemist would be 63 episodes, I got to thinking how rare it is for a late night anime to run for more than two cour. The only examples I can think of right now are Monster (72 eps), Nana (47 eps), and Death Note (37 eps), all NTV shows based on ultra-popular manga; FMA2 doesn't really count as it airs after midnight on some stations but during prime time on others. It's far more common for a show, even one based on a popular property, to be greenlit for one or two cour and receive a second season if it does well. Common knowledge to anyone who pays attention, but I had never really thought about it before. It would be quite surprising for Little Busters! to get four cour when no visual novel adaptation has even had a three cour season.

Definitely the good kind of surprise, though.

[Draneor]

It would be quite surprising for Little Busters! to get four cour when no visual novel adaptation has even had a three cour season.

Both Clannad and D.C. had four cour... There's no reason LB can't with a break in the middle.

[tadakichi]

It would be quite surprising for Little Busters! to get four cour when no visual novel adaptation has even had a three cour season.

Both Clannad and D.C. had four cour... There's no reason LB can't with a break in the middle.

True, but I was responding to the idea that it could have a single, uninterrupted four cour season.

[musouka]

With a few exceptions, its fine, but the VN fans are whining.

It's not really "fine", but there's no point in whining about it. It is what it is.

[einhorn303]

Speaking of lulz, I think the preview trailer that Gainax has shown at a few American anime cons is pretty amusing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQQS0X_hCQA

Well, that was somewhat amusing. Might have been more so if the video wasn't tilted in such a way that the text wasn't hard to read sometimes.

Yeah, that is a bother...there are a number of different video recordings online, but I think that's the one that lets you best see the English text.

[TheGreenMan]

Definitely:

So-Ra-No-Wo-To - Love the character designs. Given the cast of all girls, we can expect yuri (the website main pic suggests something between the meganekko and blue haired girl).

Dance in the Vampire Bund - Read some of the manga. Vampire loli FTW.

[Draneor]

A trailer's been posted for Omamori Himari (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzHs4ytknIY). Based on the trailer, this show's going to be awesome. What's not to like about a cat girl with a katana? Pretty much pure guilty pleasure.

[EmperorBrandon]

A trailer's been posted for Omamori Himari (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzHs4ytknIY). Based on the trailer, this show's going to be awesome. What's not to like about a cat girl with a katana? Pretty much pure guilty pleasure.

Definitely seems to be a lot of fanservice in trailer. Always somewhat of a mixed bag for me, but it looks rather amusing too and characters are cute. Seems like something to try at least. :)

[ilmaestro]

Well, I'm certainly looking forward to it more than I was three minutes ago.

[Draneor]

Well, I'm certainly looking forward to it more than I was three minutes ago.

If it turns out to be really good, I just hope Kadokawa finally gets around to releasing new anime on BD. It's certainly under consideration, but for R2 prices I want the best quality possible.

[Betenoire]

The trailer upped my interest considerably. I will have to make sure I give this one a shot coming up.

[einhorn303]

It increased my interest in the manga more than the anime. I like the water-demon loli and magical English teacup maid characters.

[ilmaestro]

Well, I'm certainly looking forward to it more than I was three minutes ago.

If it turns out to be really good, I just hope Kadokawa finally gets around to releasing new anime on BD. It's certainly under consideration, but for R2 prices I want the best quality possible.
I am in total agreement. I have finally convinced myself that once the shows I'm buying now on DVD (Haruhi 2009, Natsu no Arashi) have finished, that's me done with R2J DVDs.

[Ty]

What's not to like about a cat girl with a katana? Pretty much pure guilty pleasure.

Nothing at all I'd say, provided the show is more than mere fanservice.

It seems like catgirls are coming back into fashion these days, something I find most gratifying. Of course I'd take just about any new fad so long as it replaces all the traps and stereotypical tsundere female leads of the last few years.

On an unrelated note, I just watched the Seikon no Quaser trailer and it quite literally looks like a softcore hentai. Even if the show doesn't suck and proves worth watching it's going to be censored like crazy.

[Fencedude]

A trailer's been posted for Omamori Himari (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzHs4ytknIY). Based on the trailer, this show's going to be awesome. What's not to like about a cat girl with a katana? Pretty much pure guilty pleasure.

Busty catgirl with a katana, voiced by Koshimizu Ami, and gratuitous pantsu?

I'M THERE

[Suwako Moriya]

A trailer's been posted for Omamori Himari (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzHs4ytknIY). Based on the trailer, this show's going to be awesome. What's not to like about a cat girl with a katana? Pretty much pure guilty pleasure.

It's quite clear this series requires further research. The lead girl is amazing in several ways.

[Draneor]

replaces all the traps and stereotypical tsundere female leads of the last few years.

That would be problematic. Thankfully I doubt they're going anywhere.

[Ty]

That would be problematic. Thankfully I doubt they're going anywhere.

The industry serves up enough of each fetish to satisfy nearly all of us I guess. :P I've gotten better at ignoring the ones I don't appreciate at least.

[Westlo]

A trailer's been posted for Omamori Himari (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzHs4ytknIY). Based on the trailer, this show's going to be awesome. What's not to like about a cat girl with a katana? Pretty much pure guilty pleasure.

Looks alright but man I have to say that Sora no Otoshimono has completely spoiled me in regards to how well animated a fan service anime can be. Himari looks really second rate in comparison and this is a trailer with more than likely some of the best animated scenes in it. Oh well Himari is fun but Kuesu and Shizuku ftw.

Here's the VA's

Himari: Ami Koshimizu
Yuto Amakawa: Daisuke Hirakawa
Kuzaki Rinko: Iori Nomizu (Nymph in Sora no Otoshimono)
Shizuku: Kei Shindou
Lizlet: Asuka Ookame

[ibby]

Nothing really interests me except Nodame Cantabile Finale and Harukanru Toki no Nakd de 3.

[Draneor]

Media Factory has posted a new promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5v4VgC7auA&feature=player_embedded) for Baka Test.

[Suwako Moriya]

Media Factory has posted a new promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5v4VgC7auA&feature=player_embedded) for Baka Test.

The main thing I've learned from that trailer is some of the girls are cute.

[Betenoire]

Media Factory has posted a new promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5v4VgC7auA&feature=player_embedded) for Baka Test.

The main thing I've learned from that trailer is some of the girls are cute.

I can think of two in particular. Wasn't sure about much of the rest I saw though...

[ilmaestro]

Oh oh! Worryingly addictive OP alert.

[TheGreenMan]

A trailer's been posted for Omamori Himari (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzHs4ytknIY). Based on the trailer, this show's going to be awesome. What's not to like about a cat girl with a katana? Pretty much pure guilty pleasure.

Hmmm...neck licking.

[something]

Media Factory has posted a new promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5v4VgC7auA&feature=player_embedded) for Baka Test.
Preview doesn't really tell me much so I'm reserving judgment, but that's one beat up looking school.

Just assume I'm always saying this in a Kuroko voice from now on.

[ilmaestro]

So from now on you're reserving judgment desu no?

[Westlo]

Media Factory has posted a new promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5v4VgC7auA&feature=player_embedded) for Baka Test.

Definitely interested in this, be interesting to see what Oonuma Shin can do without Shinbo around. This series has ranked pretty well in Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi! as well, after being #8 in 2008 it was #3 in the 2009 edition and is now #1 in the 2010 edition that just came out.

[Garasharp K7]

Looking at the images and descriptions, I'd say there's not much in there that interests me. I might catch the odd episode of a few shows at some later stage but as it is, there's nothing there that gives me a "I must watch this!" vibe. Well, maybe Hidamari Sketch, (love the manga) but I'll wait 'til I've seen the first series before I try out the new one.

[Shirou Emiya]

I'm looking forward to just Hanamaru Kindergarten, hopefully it will get english dubbed eventually :).

(I will watch it subbed as it airs in Japan, but I will re-watch it dubbed if it ever gets dubbed)