Assassin's Creed Series thread.

[Fencedude]

Discussion of all things Assassin's Creed.

[Fencedude]

Haven't done much since my last update, though I will have time tonight to play.

Considering what I've heard of the length, I may end up finishing it tonight...

[Citizen Klaus]

So has anyone else found the "Sweeper" and "Messer Sandman" achievements/trophies incredibly irritating to get? Every time I try to charge up the move, some yob always runs in and smacks me with his sword.

[Fencedude]

So has anyone else found the "Sweeper" and "Messer Sandman" achievements/trophies incredibly irritating to get? Every time I try to charge up the move, some yob always runs in and smacks me with his sword.

Yeah, you have to get the timing just right.

[broodwars]

Just finished Assassin's Creed 2 myself (with all the crap done and collected, and the Platinum obtained), and like the first game found myself disappointed with the ending. That had to be one of the biggest Deus Ex Machinas (literally, it seems) I've ever seen, but at least it started with action and ended with it. That final boss fight was a total let-down, though, considering the setup.

And are we supposed to understand what the hell that whole scene with Altair in the game was about? Was it just meant to show how Desmond could even possibly be descended from Altair?

[Fencedude]

And are we supposed to understand what the hell that whole scene with Altair in the game was about? Was it just meant to show how Desmond could even possibly be descended from Altair?

Yeah, thats exactly what it was.

Your memories of your ancestors last up to the point of conception (or possibly conception + 9 months for female ancestors...) of the next ancestor in line.

Also it showed Desmond experiencing the side effects of prolonged Animus use.

[Citizen Klaus]

Also it showed Desmond experiencing the side effects of prolonged Animus use.

Eureka! I've finally figured out what those visions mean for the future of the franchise.

Desmond hallucinates during combat, and where else do we see that thematic? It's obvious that Ubi's gonna be teaming up with Monolith, and that FEAR 3 and AC3 will, in fact, be the same game.

The writing on the wall told me so.

[broodwars]

Also it showed Desmond experiencing the side effects of prolonged Animus use.

Eureka! I've finally figured out what those visions mean for the future of the franchise.

Desmond hallucinates during combat, and where else do we see that thematic? It's obvious that Ubi's gonna be teaming up with Monolith, and that FEAR 3 and AC3 will, in fact, be the same game.

The writing on the wall told me so.

I would actually love it if Ubisoft found some way to tie together the Prince of Persia: Sands of Time universe (the less fanciful of the two active universes right now) and the Assassin's Creed universe in the final game, since they are growing so similar. Perhaps the Dagger and Hourglass of Time were Seeds of Eden and the Prince comes from a long line of Assassins? ^_-

Seriously, imagine if the next time Desmond boots up the Animus he appears as the Prince. Minds=blown.

[Fencedude]

Alright, Memory Block 3 completed, the Butcher is down.

The problem with this game (other than the limitations imposed by it being on the PSP) is that you don't assassinate the main enemies, you have Boss Fights with them. Which so incredibly misses the point it isn't even funny. Also they are stupidly easy.

Oh yeah, and Maria? Still Tsundere

[Fencedude]

Block 4 down. Defeated "The Witch".

The plot isn't bad actually, for what it is, and Altair actually has a semblance of a personality now.

Its just really limited by the format, and the silly decision to go with "boss fights".

[broodwars]

Do they actually even bother trying to explain exactly when Desmond had time to go into the Animus with Altair again? There is literally no gap between AC1 and AC2 where he'd have a shot at that.

[Fencedude]

Do they actually even bother trying to explain exactly when Desmond had time to go into the Animus with Altair again? There is literally no gap between AC1 and AC2 where he'd have a shot at that.

Nope, not at all.

[Fencedude]

And done with Block 5, just two more to go (though I expect block 7 to be very short).

The fight against the twins was almost cool, its just that the fighting system is even more dumbed down than in the main games. The only challenge is that it seems in some places enemies will spawn incessantly not five feet from you. Highly obnoxious. Also stealth is very hard here.

Edit: and on an at best tangentially related note, I have never had a game system get dirty as quickly as the PSP does

[lockmastah]

So has anyone else found the "Sweeper" and "Messer Sandman" achievements/trophies incredibly irritating to get? Every time I try to charge up the move, some yob always runs in and smacks me with his sword.

I was able to get the Messer Sandman one fairly easily, but haven't tried to get the Sweeper one yet.

And guys, how about some more spoiler tags? I'm only 1/3 through AC2 myself.

[Rydsen]

I finished AC2 two weeks ago. I got all the achievements and The Sweeper achievement was one of the last. Took me about 45 minutes of picking fights over and over again at the San Marco fast travel station in Venice since there's a guard with a spear right there soon as you start. Always would get 3-4 for the longest time. Finally got a fifth one. Now that was annoying. (This isn't a spoiler, just a tip on an achievement.) Just so you know to get the Show Your Colors achievement, you have to wear the Auditore cape (once you get it by finding all the feathers) in each city but also in the Mountains. Just an FYI. Overall, I really enjoyed the game but felt the ending was a bit on the weird side, even more so than the first game. And the free-running/climbing system didn't feel quite as solid as that from the latest Prince of Persia game. Similar but not as good for some reason.

[Talyn]

I had to put AC2 away after beating it. I just didn't have the motivation to get the remaining trophies. I will next time I pick it up. I agree that the boss fights were rediculous and missed the point, I got the most joy from the Assassin's Tombs... I enjoyed it and love my LE figure, artbook and tin... very nice set for the extra $20.... The Uncle Mario introduction was comical...

[Citizen Klaus]

I agree that the boss fights were rediculous and missed the point, I got the most joy from the Assassin's Tombs...

Uh, the boss fights Fencedude was walking about were in AC: Bloodlines for the PSP, not AC2.

I actually thought AC2's story assassinations were much better than the originals. Easier to be stealthy this time around.

[Fencedude]

And block 6 finished. No Assassination/Boss fight in this one, just investigations capped off by a fight against 25 soldiers. Which is a joke because the counter window is ridiculously long, even when using the Hidden Blade (which you can block with, like in AC2). So its just mindless.

[Fencedude]

And done.

Most of the extra stuff is done, (I'm missing one gold coin) and all but a few of the "Achievements" are also completed.

The final fight wasn't great, but no worse than any of the others.

The story was pretty good, if fairly short and didn't really go anywhere, they did manage to develope Altair and Maria's relationship in a way that seemed more or less believable. The scenes of Altair writing the codex that Ezio later reads were pretty nice, and provided a nice way of connecting the two games.

I'd say the game is probably a 6/10 or so, its not terrific, or even all that good, but its not horrible either. Its just limited by the system it is on, and by a few less than stellar design decisions.

[Talyn]

I agree that the boss fights were rediculous and missed the point, I got the most joy from the Assassin's Tombs...

Uh, the boss fights Fencedude was walking about were in AC: Bloodlines for the PSP, not AC2.

I actually thought AC2's story assassinations were much better than the originals. Easier to be stealthy this time around.

oops... but my opinion still applies though... the story assassinations we're more stylish, but not as substantial as the first game. I wanted to be nervous and sweat, not swoop in and dispatch them in ten seconds...... maybe Batman AA spoiled me on stealth...

[gnikdrazil]

I had completed AC1 a few months ago. It was fun at first, but found it boring and tedious by the end of the game because of the repetitive mission types. AC2 has started a lot better. I already find Ezio more enjoyable than Altair. He's not starting out as the pompous, elite assassin and have everything taken away from him. His training missions haven't been quite interesting like carrying messages or learning to blend from a brothel owner. Currently, I'm on memory block 2 and accomplished my first assassination mission. I look forward to other improvements of the series's formula.

[Isuzu Inugami]

Just started AC2. Ezio seems an amiable thug; and is the sole purpose of banks for me to beat up the guards and steal the loot? LOL hard at the action button tutorial with infant Ezio.

[gnikdrazil]

Done, but continuing to play to get a Platinum. I usually only get 30%-50% of a game's trophies and leave it at that. I ended up with 90% after my first play through. I got some of the easier remaining bronzes. I only have to collect the feathers (using a guide) and a couple of truth glyphs (guide also).

This was a vast improvement over the first which I hated. Playing the first one straight with no other games to break up its monotony was a bad experience. This one offered enough variation that it didn't get stagnant. The lead is an arrogant bastard like Altair from the first, but at least he is more sympathetic. I guess having a lot of your family killed can do that. None of the secondary characters really stood out for me Story was a complete waste. Keep saving people in the hope that they help lead you to an assassination target of the Templar. Ending was a pretty big "What were they thinking?" moment, but it was really the only way to explain the pieces of Eden. The new weapons really didn't add much variety to the fighting. Poison was a lot of fun in watching the targets slowly dance to death. The best part was the Prince of Persia inspired assassin tombs. I loved figuring those rooms out. I spent 20+ hours in the game and didn't feel cheated out of my money. The only problem is that the game doesn't have any replay value for me so I'll use it for trade for Bayonetta.

[lockmastah]

The only problem is that the game doesn't have any replay value for me so I'll use it for trade for Bayonetta.
What about the upcoming DLC? You don't care to play memories 13 & 14?

[Nork22]

Hired out the game for 2 days and having a lot of fun.

Guess what I did though when I first booted up the game? I set the spoken language to Italian. While the modern day stuff felt weird in Italian, it was a hoot to play the game in Italian in Italy. Finish Block 1 last night and will be running around doing more shit today.

[DeadlyMessiah]

I must say, I am quite impressed with ACII. I expected it to be as bland and boring as every other Ubisoft game, but this game is addicting as hell. In fact, it might be the first game I get 100% trophies in, as I am enjoying it that much. Hell, I am already 62% complete with the trophies, which is the highest I have ever been, as the next closest game is I believe GTAIV with 48%.

[Nork22]

Finish the game last night and got the Platinum for this. Was rather easy actually to get the Platinum. But anyway, pretty decent game and really enjoyed the open world aspect of running around and pissing off guards or poisoning them. Not sure on the 2nd DLC as the 1st DLC felt short. Still as was playing thru the game, the DLC felt like it was a fit into the story.

Can't wait to try out number 3 when it comes out.

[Fencedude]

That was fun. Maybe a bit too much mass combat, but some good assassinations if you were clever.

And they've given us a way to ride the flying machine whenever we want, which is cool. But we still can't replay DNA Sequences.

And yes, Caterina Sforza's awesome.

[Isuzu Inugami]

Okay, it's been twelve years and there's been no progress with that unfinished bridge in Florence.

Screw you guys, I'm goin' back to Venice and kill somebody!

[Talyn]

Okay, it's been twelve years and there's been no progress with that unfinished bridge in Florence.

Screw you guys, I'm goin' back to Venice and kill somebody!

I thought that was odd too! :sd:

[Fencedude]

Fall 2010 (http://kotaku.com/5531849/gamestop-placeholder-art-names-assassins-creed-brotherhood-+-update)

Yay!

[Senku]

Yeah... so I just recently finished the sequel. And I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed in where the story has gone. Sure, it's always been fiction; but they were crafting a good sense of realism using history. But after sequence 14, the franchise has shifted towards the fantasy genre for me. While it hasn't completely derailed the experience, the overall trilogy has moved down a peg in my book.

Honestly, despite gameplay improvements, I still like the first game more. I liked the time period of the first better, how Altair was a soldier doing his duty (opposed to Ezio learning the trade), and most of all, death monologues. I also enjoyed the guards' outbursts more in the first game (probably has to do with the Italian outbursts not being translated by "baby").

'You dare steal in my presence!? That will cost you your life!' :bigsmile:

The explanation at the end seemed a little too... "this is the truth of things"; although Ezio couldn't really get a word in. Hopefully the 3rd game will throw everything for a loop, by using the "nothing is true" creed.

[Talyn]

Finally Platinumed ACII... I spent more time trying to get the No Hitter trophy than I cared to. Atleast it finally paid off! On to the shelf till the next chapter comes out...

[Nork22]

Finally Platinumed ACII... I spent more time trying to get the No Hitter trophy than I cared to. Atleast it finally paid off! On to the shelf till the next chapter comes out...

The No Hitter trophy I got was rather funny. Just ran round a church building out in the countryside and pissed off a lot of people till the guards/assassin monks chase me. Smoke bomb their ass and started killing like mad.

The one I had took far to long was the search for the feathers without a guide at the start.

[Talyn]

Finally Platinumed ACII... I spent more time trying to get the No Hitter trophy than I cared to. Atleast it finally paid off! On to the shelf till the next chapter comes out...

The No Hitter trophy I got was rather funny. Just ran round a church building out in the countryside and pissed off a lot of people till the guards/assassin monks chase me. Smoke bomb their ass and started killing like mad.

The one I had took far to long was the search for the feathers without a guide at the start.

Yeah, that's how I started my trek to Platinum was find all the damn feathers I missed. Spent a couple hours figuring out which ones I missed. Thankfully the DNA sequence tells you how many feathers were scored out of how many in each city. I was surprised I was missing half in Venice considering how much I ran around the city.

Yeah I used smoke bomb but I kept encountering the random issues... kill 9 guys number 10 runs away before I can smoke bomb or chase him down, accidentally whacked a couple civi's who were dumb enough to run into my angry mob, or somehow missed throwing another smoke bomb before getting hit, etc... If I had bothered to try that when I first played through it would've been easy, but I forgot some of the control scheme coming fresh off of the Fortitudo battle in Bayonetta.

I was wondering about the DLC sequences... what are some thoughts overall thoughts on those? I was thinking about getting them since I'm still wanting to play more. :catgirl:

[Memphis]

I have a question. Do I need to play the 1st AC to buy AC2? I'm not going to buy Brotherhood just yet because I'm a cheap person and I like to wait for price drops :).

[Fencedude]

I have a question. Do I need to play the 1st AC to buy AC2? I'm not going to buy Brotherhood just yet because I'm a cheap person and I like to wait for price drops :).

You don't have to, it would certainly help, but its hard for me to recommend the first one. Of course, if you play AC2 first, there is no way you'd ever be able to handle playing the first.

[Memphis]

What's wrong with the 1st one? I hear a lot about it's repetitiveness, but that type of stuff never bothers/bothered me.

[TheLaughingMan]

What's wrong with the 1st one? I hear a lot about it's repetitiveness, but that type of stuff never bothers/bothered me.
Actually the only downside to AC1 is that there are less types of missions to do, so it's somehow a bit more repetitive than ACII. But it didn't bother me that much either. And i liked AC1 Altair as much if not more than ACII Ezio. Honestly, i liked AC1 just as much as ACII.
Sure, i played each one not too long after they came out, so AC1 didn't felt bad in it's time and ACII simply felt like the natural improvement you expect in a couple years.
Looking back on them, i wouldn't ever think or playing ACII whitout having played AC1 first. But i guess that's just me...

[aku.chan]

What's wrong with the 1st one? I hear a lot about it's repetitiveness, but that type of stuff never bothers/bothered me.

I'm about halfway through AC1, and I have yet to be bothered by doing the same 4 or 5 activities reapeatedly, though I do play games in small doses.

My biggest complaint is that my assassin isn't very assassin-like, but I think that has more to do with my lack of skill then a game fault.

If AC2 is as big of an improvement as people say, it must be pretty freaking amazing.

[Fencedude]

What's wrong with the 1st one? I hear a lot about it's repetitiveness, but that type of stuff never bothers/bothered me.

I'm about halfway through AC1, and I have yet to be bothered by doing the same 4 or 5 activities reapeatedly, though I do play games in small doses.

My biggest complaint is that my assassin isn't very assassin-like, but I think that has more to do with my lack of skill then a game fault.

If AC2 is as big of an improvement as people say, it must be pretty freaking amazing.

Yeah, again. I personally have no problem with AC1 (though going back to it now would be very hard), but lots and lots of people do. So its hard to recommend without reservations.

[Isuzu Inugami]

What's wrong with the 1st one? I hear a lot about it's repetitiveness, but that type of stuff never bothers/bothered me.

Then by all means play it! It's a gorgeous looking game, and it's a pretty significant part of the overall story. The sequel adds a lot more mission variety and some very nice refinements to the mechanics, which is why people retroactively cast disdain on the first, but the first game is still quite good.

[Memphis]

I guess I was concerned that there were more issues with the game that had people dismissing it so quickly.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

What's wrong with the 1st one? I hear a lot about it's repetitiveness, but that type of stuff never bothers/bothered me.

Then by all means play it! It's a gorgeous looking game, and it's a pretty significant part of the overall story. The sequel adds a lot more mission variety and some very nice refinements to the mechanics, which is why people retroactively cast disdain on the first, but the first game is still quite good.
I just finished the first game and thought it was really good. The only real gripe I have was the wave of people you have to fight at the end. Also the ending makes no sense but I'm going to start AC2 tomorrow I'm looking forward to it.

[broodwars]

I picked up Brotherhood a few days ago, and so far I like the game, maybe a little bit more than Assassin's Creed 2. With everything compacted into one city, there's a lot less just running around; money actually feels right now like it has some value (despite my having a continual 12,000 cash every 20 minutes); and it just feels like you have a little more gameplay freedom than before. It also feels like Ubisoft tweaked the AI a little bit as well, as the guards seem more willing to poke around haystacks and benches when you've been running from them. I also really appreciate feathers and flags appearing on the map now, though there have been some flags that I don't have the slightest idea how I'm supposed to reach them. For instance, there's this one flag by the western Assassin's Pigeon Coop that all logic and in-game physics tell me I should be able to reach. It's sitting up on a pillar, and there are some nearby houses you can use to get to an adjacent pillar. When you try to jump to the flag's pillar, though, you (naturally) fall just short of the edge of the ledge and slam into the pillar.

The execution streaks are amusing and useful, though it feels like Ubisoft was more than a little "inspired" by Arkham Asylum and in some ways it feels more like a bandaid on the franchise's lame combat system than an actual solution. I also don't care for some of the 100% synch challenges, especially the timed ones. This series' wonky control scheme (where the buttons to run are also the buttons to climb) isn't designed for precision movement in a rushed time frame. I'm towards the end of Sequence 4 right now and I finally have a squad of Assassin Recruits, who I look forward to using to take out the remaining 5 Borgia Towers.

[Memphis]

I finally started playing the first Assassin's Creed. I like what I've seen so far. It's going to take a bit for me to get used to the controls, though. My only gripes so far are that there are no subtitles in this game, at least I haven't found a way to turn them on yet because I like to read while people are talking (thanks anime) and the objectives are too small to read. I don't have a big tv so it's pretty difficult to see what I'm suppose to be doing. I am going to restart my game (already lol). Other than that, everything else is good so far.

[broodwars]

I'm in Segment 5 now in Brotherhood, having spent a considerable amount of time grinding up my 9 Assassin-ranked Recruits and renovating stores/purchasing landmarks/gathering featheres and flags/etc. I just wanted to give a shout-out to the outstanding optional mission I just did for Leonardo, which featured the return of the glider...which now can drop bombs. You have to spend a good half the level just planning your route through the level, as if you are detected you die. That means a lot of planning runs in and out of haystacks and using crowds to infiltrate areas. But best of all, it means a lot of long-range sniping with the crossbow, which is by far the best weapon in the game and it solves a great many problems with the previous two Assassin's Creed games. It's incredibly accurate from long range, and best of all it's silent. That mission was just a surprising amount of fun, and a good reminder of how awesome this franchise can be when the scenarios are designed well.

[Fencedude]

I'm in Segment 5 now in Brotherhood, having spent a considerable amount of time grinding up my 9 Assassin-ranked Recruits and renovating stores/purchasing landmarks/gathering featheres and flags/etc. I just wanted to give a shout-out to the outstanding optional mission I just did for Leonardo, which featured the return of the glider...which now can drop bombs. You have to spend a good half the level just planning your route through the level, as if you are detected you die. That means a lot of planning runs in and out of haystacks and using crowds to infiltrate areas. But best of all, it means a lot of long-range sniping with the crossbow, which is by far the best weapon in the game and it solves a great many problems with the previous two Assassin's Creed games. It's incredibly accurate from long range, and best of all it's silent. That mission was just a surprising amount of fun, and a good reminder of how awesome this franchise can be when the scenarios are designed well.

That was probably the single best mission of the entire franchise.

A fan-fucking-tastic infiltration section, followed by an awesome, awesome vehicle section.

All of Leonardo's missions are great, except for one, which only fails because the weapon itself is lame.

Have you done the gattling gun mission?

[broodwars]

Have you done the gattling gun mission?

No, just the initial Machine Gun and now the Bomber mission. I was waiting on doing many of these quests till I had my Assassins leveled up so I'd have a better shot at 100% synchro. Turns out that's kind of pointless on the Leonardo missions, since (for what I can only imagine is balancing issues) the game doesn't let you bring your recruits into them.

[broodwars]

I beat Brotherhood, and I've pretty much resolved that I'm going to finish rounding up the Flags and then I'm pretty much done with the game. I don't particularly care to finish any of the other bonus stuff, save the final Christina mission (why are these in this game? They feel like deleted scenes from Assassin's Creed 2.). The final section with Desmond was pretty crap-tastic, the latter part of Segment 8 and the entirety of Segment 9 were pretty lame, and the story is only getting increasingly convoluted and stupid (thanks, Ubisoft, for yet another sequel-baiting "ending"). The multiplayer mode can go to back to the dark abyss from whence it came. I'm not slogging my way through it just for the Platinum.

Overall, Brotherhood was a pretty decent game (perhaps even the best in the franchise), but at this point it's really starting to feel like this franchise is spinning its wheels and has long since run out of interesting or new things to say. It needs to take a few years off and reassess where it needs to go, but sadly huge sales are dictating otherwise and we'll see yet another Creed next year. I dunno...after Creed 2, I thought I might be done with this franchise so who knows how I'll feel about Creed 4-ish next year.

[broodwars]

On a whim, I tried the online multiplayer, and man it sucks. It's fine in concept, but in execution it just doesn't seem to work (at least on PS3). The idea is that you enter a match, you're given a target, and then you try to find and assassinate him. That's all fine and dandy, but there were times in a match where I couldn't do a goddamn thing because the game wouldn't give me a target for upwards of 3 minutes. And if an opposing player attacks you, there's really nothing you can do to defend yourself and give yourself a chance to fight back or escape. Bleh, what an utter waste of time, Ubisoft.

[Fencedude]

Odd, it always worked fine for me. Perhaps you got into a different game mode?

Anyway, I rather liked the multiplayer, though I don't see myself playing it enough to get Platinum.

[DeadlyMessiah]

Are you serious? The online portion is the best online game I have touched since Metal Gear. Unlike your normal boring shooter, you have to use stealth and think about your actions before you perform them. It is far more complex and fun because you actually have time to do stuff (most of the time) whereas your are often dead in a game like CoD before you even get to do anything. Hell, I went from Level 2 to Level 6 in one game alone.

[broodwars]

Are you serious? The online portion is the best online game I have touched since Metal Gear. Unlike your normal boring shooter, you have to use stealth and think about your actions before you perform them. It is far more complex and fun because you actually have time to do stuff (most of the time) whereas your are often dead in a game like CoD before you even get to do anything. Hell, I went from Level 2 to Level 6 in one game alone.

Like I said, my big problem is that the online just didn't work like it's supposed to. I had to wait some 15 minutes for the matchmaker program to put me into a game, and then once in-game I kept having issues where the game just wouldn't give me an assassination target. For minutes at a time, I'd just have a question mark in the corner of the screen, while I'd see messages pop up about other players killing my target. And when the game doesn't tell you what your target is, there isn't a damn thing you can do in the multiplayer except wander around until it does. It was just a thoroughly unpleasant experience, though at least my first kill was a fancy aerial assassination.

[Johnny]

Just finished Brotherhood and the credits are rolling. All I can say is wow! I'm one of the people who really loved the first, despite its flaws. I loved the second even more and with Brotherhood, this is definitely one of the best series this gen.
Very much looking forward to whatever comes next!

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

For me I just wrapped up Assassins Creed 2 and damn was it good. The ending sets up Brotherhood nicely witch I may pick up soon. Loved the last fight during the credits with Desmond fighting of the guards from Abstergo.
BTW is the "Bonfire of the Vanities" pack worth downloading?

[Isuzu Inugami]

For me I just wrapped up Assassins Creed 2 and damn was it good. The ending sets up Brotherhood nicely witch I may pick up soon. Loved the last fight during the credits with Desmond fighting of the guards from Abstergo.

Heh, that bit was fun, although I irritated myself by accidently picking up one of their clubs, and then not being able to figure out how to drop it again.



BTW is the "Bonfire of the Vanities" pack worth downloading?

Do you like assassination contracts? It's basically nine in a row. Good stuff if you do, but kind of frustrating in that, like the rest of the game, you can't replay a mission if you make a messy success of it and then realize how you ought to have done it.

I'm playing Brotherhood now. I get a big kick out of where Desmond and co. set up camp. And I just took care of the tower that controls the Colisseum, which was quite a fun one.

[gnikdrazil]

AC: Brotherhood - Ubisoft has finally refined the series into a great game. I just wasn't that impressed with the first two, but interested enough to keep buying them. I only played the single player; I'm not much of a competitive person for the multiplayer. Story went over my head, but wiki can fill in the gaps later. There seemed to be no stopping point after the final main mission in sequence 7. All of the missions only offered you one choice, accept. I sat on my couch for 2 hours and steam rolled through sequence 8 and Desmond's final part. That was a pretty weird way to end it. I loved the shrines. They reminded me of good old PoP and keep wishing for a good version for this generation. I just kept doing more of the side missions than the main missions. Got a full squad of people up to assassin, kept doing the assassin assignments, found the side story of Ezio's lost love, kept doing jobs for the prostitutes (loved the poisoned one that had me beating up random people) and destroyed all of the Leonardo's machines. The hang glider was my favorite once I figured out how to stay aloft. I died too many times not reading the hints and trying to reach smoke. I did treasure hunting, but was stupid and sold a lot of the quest type items. I just wanted cash until I found out about the merchant quests. The only quest I was able to accomplish was getting fast poison. In the end, it will be funny if the series ends as if someone was experiencing the past life of Desmond from a future Animus.

[broodwars]

I loved the shrines. They reminded me of good old PoP and keep wishing for a good version for this generation.

I'm afraid I have to take issue with this statement: say what you will about Prince of Persia 2008 or Forgotten Sands, but neither were "bad" games and I rather liked Prince of Persia 2008.

As for the Shrines, I'm kind of indifferent to them. While the platforming concepts are nice and they can be fun to play through, the "hold the X button while pushing forward on the analog stick" control scheme just wasn't designed for precision platforming. It leads to a lot of irritating mis-jumps that aren't the fault of the player, but that the slightest movement in the analog stick can mean 2-3 different commands. I'll take the actual platforming of the Prince of Persia series in those games, thank you. Assassin's Creed should stick to the barely-restrained traversal it's halfway decent at.

[DeadlyMessiah]

I beat Brotherood teh other day, but I am a little annoyed. For some reason, I did not get the trophies for collecting all 10 feathers and for beatin Sequences 5 and 6, so now I have single player trophies left incomplete. It makes me mad to no end. Ubisoft needs to bring out an update that will give me my trophies.

Anyway, the game itself started out boring and slow, but it got really good to the point that I could not put it down. My final game time was 39 hours and 43 minutes when I finished it. If I had the time, I would be all over the multiplayer trophies, but alas, I do not. My Masters program and work are just eating up so much of my time, it is hard to fit anything inbetween them.

[TheLaughingMan]

I beat Brotherood teh other day, but I am a little annoyed. For some reason, I did not get the trophies for collecting all 10 feathers and for beatin Sequences 5 and 6, so now I have single player trophies left incomplete. It makes me mad to no end. Ubisoft needs to bring out an update that will give me my trophies.

Dumb shit this is. I've had 3 single player trophies glitch on me (completing sequence 7, which i certainly did, one of the 6 lairs, which i did 3 fuckin' times to be sure and another one i don't remember). Utter lameness. I'd have to replay most of the game to get them back and invest a ton of time in multiplayer to Platinum it at this point. So i sold it back.

But sure, it was an excellent game. Not as impactful as ACII but damn good nonetheless.


For the next AC, i absolutely want Ubisoft to get to another of Desmond's ancestors. How about the Chinese or Egyptian one? That would be all kinds of awesome!

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

For the next AC, i absolutely want Ubisoft to get to another of Desmond's ancestors. How about the Chinese or Egyptian one? That would be all kinds of awesome!
Well good news then the next game will be announced in May.
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/114/1149554p1.html
Doesn't confirm if it's a PS3/360 title though. If it does come out by the end of the year like the article says then I'd venture it will be on the 3DS or PSP.

[DeadlyMessiah]

Dumb shit this is. I've had 3 single player trophies glitch on me (completing sequence 7, which i certainly did, one of the 6 lairs, which i did 3 fuckin' times to be sure and another one i don't remember). Utter lameness. I'd have to replay most of the game to get them back and invest a ton of time in multiplayer to Platinum it at this point. So i sold it back.

Speaking of online, I finally got play again last night and I was playing that new mode where you play two rounds, one as a hunter and one trying to hide. I hated it at first, but then loved it later on. However, I seem to do much better during the round of hiding since I love having to be stealthy, whereas I cannot kill anyone for a thing in Hunter because most of my team members either get to the guy first or end up getting me stunned.

But sure, it was an excellent game. Not as impactful as ACII but damn good nonetheless.

Yes and no. I kind of liked it better because it finishes Ezio's story, but nothing can top the carnival mission from the second one.

For the next AC, i absolutely want Ubisoft to get to another of Desmond's ancestors. How about the Chinese or Egyptian one? That would be all kinds of awesome!

Rumor has it that it is going to be set during the French Revolution.

[Talyn]

For the next AC, i absolutely want Ubisoft to get to another of Desmond's ancestors. How about the Chinese or Egyptian one? That would be all kinds of awesome!

Rumor has it that it is going to be set during the French Revolution.

I hope that's just rumor as alot of what we saw in ACII would just be a re-hash of alot of the same environments save a handful of buildings (churches, etc..) and landmarks... I'd like to see something different in ACIII but either way I'll still buy the game to see where the hell story is going...

[martod]

For the next AC, i absolutely want Ubisoft to get to another of Desmond's ancestors. How about the Chinese or Egyptian one? That would be all kinds of awesome!

Rumor has it that it is going to be set during the French Revolution.

I hope that's just rumor as alot of what we saw in ACII would just be a re-hash of alot of the same environments save a handful of buildings (churches, etc..) and landmarks... I'd like to see something different in ACIII but either way I'll still buy the game to see where the hell story is going...

They said they wanted to focus on eras that aren't typically portrayed in games, and if they want to use a more recent time period than ACII (since ACII's time period was more recent than ACI), there's not a lot to pick from. Personally, I imagined it would be pre-Civil War America.

[Talyn]

They said they wanted to focus on eras that aren't typically portrayed in games, and if they want to use a more recent time period than ACII (since ACII's time period was more recent than ACI), there's not a lot to pick from. Personally, I imagined it would be pre-Civil War America.

See, that's what I don't get... the story does not require the use of a more modern setting like French Revolution. It uses a machine that can tap the so called hidden memories of ancestors and go back, forward, side to side, etc... I find that to be very limiting and singular in storytelling based on the foundations the creative staff provided. It'd be the same if the tv show Quantum Leap only kept Sam jumping forward in time... but hey...whatever they want to do is what they are going to do.

[broodwars]

http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-reveals-assassin-s-creed-revelations-details-200477.phtml

Ubisoft has revealed that Assassin's Creed: Revelations will once...*sigh*...AGAIN star Ezio, you'll be running around Constantinople (Istanbul), and the multiplayer from Brotherhood will be back.

Well, if Brotherhood was the first sign that Ubisoft was willing to milk this franchise for all its worth, Revelations looks like them kicking the dead husk that remained. I'm sick of Ezio and this time period, and this is all an excuse to re-use the dated Assassin's Creed 2 engine again. I'll probably skip this one, or at least wait until I can pick it up for $20 used.

[Fencedude]

I'm actually ok with this.

[Senku]

Ubisoft has revealed that Assassin's Creed: Revelations will once...*sigh*...AGAIN star Ezio

Wait, how old is he, or is going to be? Some sort of STD should have done him in by now.

[martod]

Ubisoft has revealed that Assassin's Creed: Revelations will once...*sigh*...AGAIN star Ezio

Wait, how old is he, or is going to be? Some sort of STD should have done him in by now.

He's pushing fifty at the end of Brotherhood, even if he is the most youthful looking, athletic fifty year old in history (and his mother is the most youthful looking seventy year old in history). What makes this even sillier is that AC2 made it clear that Desmond can only control an ancestor until they conceive the next person in the bloodline, meaning Ezio still has to bear another child before his story is over.

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Ubisoft has revealed that Assassin's Creed: Revelations will once...*sigh*...AGAIN star Ezio

Wait, how old is he, or is going to be? Some sort of STD should have done him in by now.

He's pushing fifty at the end of Brotherhood, even if he is the most youthful looking, athletic fifty year old in history (and his mother is the most youthful looking seventy year old in history). What makes this even sillier is that AC2 made it clear that Desmond can only control an ancestor until they conceive the next person in the bloodline, meaning Ezio still has to bear another child before his story is over.
I read yesterday that you will also play as Altair from the first AC.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1167021p1.html
Warning: Article contains a spoiler if you have not played Brotherhood.

[Memphis]

I finally started playing the first Assassin's Creed. I like what I've seen so far. It's going to take a bit for me to get used to the controls, though. My only gripes so far are that there are no subtitles in this game, at least I haven't found a way to turn them on yet because I like to read while people are talking (thanks anime) and the objectives are too small to read. I don't have a big tv so it's pretty difficult to see what I'm suppose to be doing. I am going to restart my game (already lol). Other than that, everything else is good so far.

Hmm. I think after I made this post was when I got rid of the game lol. I was going into both AC1 and AC2 with the mindset of just trying to be stealth but then I kept getting caught a lot and I wasn't use to the combat, not to mention that tv was terrible, but now that I got myself a newer, bigger tv I also bought AC2 (again) and Brotherhood for the PS3 and right now I'm having a blast with AC2. These types of games feel a lot more comfortable to me when I have a sony controller. I'm not too far in the game seeing how I was just introduced to chest thing and the architect. It can still use some work here and there but AC2 is turning out to be a great game.

Now as far as Revelations go I'm all for it.