Dynasty Warriors Series Thread

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For (almost) all your Musou needs!

So I picked up Dynasty Warriors 6 used today, because I apparently managed to convince myself that the Renbu system wasn't as ass-tastic as I remembered. Sadly, it is.

Anyway, started Guan Yu's Musou Mode, currently in the Battle of Hu Lao Gate, having already had to restart once because LOL LU BU (and I didn't pursue!...I just didn't run away. Too busy trying to kill Diao Chan.)

I like how this stage has a 1000 experience point target to kill Lu Bu, yeah, sure. I'll come back when I'm like level 30 and try that thank you very much.

[Nork22]

I'll go by the current Musou I'm playing: Warriors Orochi Z

Manage to unlock the Gold trophy for levelling up the aptitute for all the characters to level 20. That is long and tedious I tell you. Now all that's left is to beat every stage on Chaos mode and unlock 400 artwoks for the gallery to earn my Platinum for this game. Easy enough with my weapons customised to the max + Almighty modifier. I plan to unlock all the female character's artworks first.

May I say though, Gracia is useless without the Almighty modifier.

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Since you are the resident Musou expert, have the other recent Musou games dumped the Renbu system like Gundam Musou 2 did? Because by god does it ever suck. Who thought this was a good idea?

Also, can we have DW7 PLZ? With DW5 cast, if at all possible.

[Nork22]

Since you are the resident Musou expert, have the other recent Musou games dumped the Renbu system like Gundam Musou 2 did? Because by god does it ever suck. Who thought this was a good idea?

Also, can we have DW7 PLZ? With DW5 cast, if at all possible.

Not quite the expert, but looks like the Renbu system is here to stay. I've played the Strikeforce demo on the PS3, and that uses a modified Renbu system as well. I'm not sure what's happening with Samurai Warriors 3, but you'll be damn if you think they won't use it.

Good thing I hired out Dynasty Warriors 6, cause while I could live with the Renbu system, it's what they did to some of the characters that made me dislike the game. Why are all the female only arrow users? God you should have seen me using Sun Shang Xiang taking on Lu Bu, which is like using a pea shooter on a raging bull.

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Great job Koei, way to suck almost all the strategy out of the game.

*sigh*

Oh yeah, and totally agreed about SSX. WTF?

[Fudce]

I'll go by the current Musou I'm playing: Warriors Orochi Z

I'm seriously tempted to import that myself. I have both PS2 games, but the idea of high definition Kunoichi is so tempting, and I don't have an Xbox360.

[Nork22]

I'm seriously tempted to import that myself. I have both PS2 games, but the idea of high definition Kunoichi is so tempting, and I don't have an Xbox360.

If you can find a second hand copy of the game then it's worth a look. I sold off the 2 PS2 versions to buy this version. It is worth it too for Sanzo Hoshi. Mmmm... 3rd costume...

[Ty]

I couldn't play DW6, just the worst example of the series IMO. DW6E, on the other hand, I sank quite a few hours into before getting tired of it. The create a warrior mode in it is very robust, far more so than any previous DW game and they made co-op mode rewarding again too. Like always there were a number of things that really needed addressing but it was worth the money unlike the game it's based on.

I have a feeling DW7 will either be the greatest game in the series or the worst. Also, am I the only one who really wants to see the kingdom play mode from DW4 come back?

[malazar]

For (almost) all your Musou needs!

So I picked up Dynasty Warriors 6 used today, because I apparently managed to convince myself that the Renbu system wasn't as ass-tastic as I remembered. Sadly, it is.


Yeah, I am a musou game junkie, but I could never get into Dynasty Warriors 6 very much because of that damn Renbu system. It was terrible.

[Nork22]

Just read up stuff regarding Samurai Warriors 3. Looks like they are keeping the old system (no Renbu YAY!), but attacks now required time presses. So no more button mashing.

It's a shame though since this is only coming out on the Wii (for the moment). Which means it gives me an incentive to pick up Sengoku Basara 3 when it comes out in English next year.

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Just read up stuff regarding Samurai Warriors 3. Looks like they are keeping the old system (no Renbu YAY!), but attacks now required time presses. So no more button mashing.

It's a shame though since this is only coming out on the Wii (for the moment). Which means it gives me an incentive to pick up Sengoku Basara 3 when it comes out in English next year.

...I can't even imagine this working properly on the Wii.

Unless they like...require you to use a Classic controller or the GC Controller.

[Fudce]

Just read up stuff regarding Samurai Warriors 3. Looks like they are keeping the old system (no Renbu YAY!), but attacks now required time presses. So no more button mashing.

It's a shame though since this is only coming out on the Wii (for the moment). Which means it gives me an incentive to pick up Sengoku Basara 3 when it comes out in English next year.

...I can't even imagine this working properly on the Wii.

Unless they like...require you to use a Classic controller or the GC Controller.

They're using the Classic Controller Pro, which is in essence, the classic controller addon for the Wiimote, but with four shoulder buttons.

I am excited for SW3 though, for one reason and one reason alone (http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/artworks/sw3/a-kunoichi.jpg).


Oh, and remember that this is Koei we're talking about. Expect ports to PS3, PS2, Xbox360, and PSP announced within six months.

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They're using the Classic Controller Pro, which is in essence, the classic controller addon for the Wiimote, but with four shoulder buttons.

I am excited for SW3 though, for one reason and one reason alone (http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/artworks/sw3/a-kunoichi.jpg).


Oh, and remember that this is Koei we're talking about. Expect ports to PS3, PS2, Xbox360, and PSP announced within six months.

No idea who that is, but I approve.

[Fudce]

They're using the Classic Controller Pro, which is in essence, the classic controller addon for the Wiimote, but with four shoulder buttons.

I am excited for SW3 though, for one reason and one reason alone (http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/artworks/sw3/a-kunoichi.jpg).


Oh, and remember that this is Koei we're talking about. Expect ports to PS3, PS2, Xbox360, and PSP announced within six months.

No idea who that is, but I approve.

It's Kunoichi... the super cute awesome character that was inexplicably dropped in Samurai Warriors 2 in favour of Nene. Nene is also in SW3, so they've found room for both cute ninja girls.

[Mazinkaizer]

I watched my friend play DW6 and it looked very nice, it's been really a long time since i have played DW game. I started playing DW Gundam lately and with the upcoming Hokuto Musou i feel the need to go back to the roots and play another DW. However, the fact that DW6 doesn't have a Japanese audio have put me off from playing the game. I guess i'll grab an older game or wait for a new one. Any suggestions ?

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I watched my friend play DW6 and it looked very nice, it's been really a long time since i have played DW game. I started playing DW Gundam lately and with the upcoming Hokuto Musou i feel the need to go back to the roots and play another DW. However, the fact that DW6 doesn't have a Japanese audio have put me off from playing the game. I guess i'll grab an older game or wait for a new one. Any suggestions ?

None of them have Japanese Audio, sadly.

I'd suggest DW5 for the PS2, plays like Gundam Musou and has a moderately ludicrous cast size.

[Fudce]

I watched my friend play DW6 and it looked very nice, it's been really a long time since i have played DW game. I started playing DW Gundam lately and with the upcoming Hokuto Musou i feel the need to go back to the roots and play another DW. However, the fact that DW6 doesn't have a Japanese audio have put me off from playing the game. I guess i'll grab an older game or wait for a new one. Any suggestions ?

None of them have Japanese Audio, sadly.

I'd suggest DW5 for the PS2, plays like Gundam Musou and has a moderately ludicrous cast size.

If you're going for a straight DW game, DW5 is the best bet, but I also recommend Warriors Orochi 2.

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GAAAAAAHHHH Why does Xiahou Dun's second mission have to be Xia Pi? Thats so incredibly unfair.

[Ty]

While Kunoichi is a fine piece of eye candy, SW pissed me off far more than it entertained so I intend to resist this time around. Why can't DW have good looking women in it? They've phased out one of the Qiao sisters as playable and Sun Shang Xiang gets uglier with each iteration of the series.

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While Kunoichi is a fine piece of eye candy, SW pissed me off far more than it entertained so I intend to resist this time around. Why can't DW have good looking women in it? They've phased out one of the Qiao sisters as playable and Sun Shang Xiang gets uglier with each iteration of the series.

Clearly the answer is for Koei to license the Koihime Musou designs.

[Mazinkaizer]

I watched my friend play DW6 and it looked very nice, it's been really a long time since i have played DW game. I started playing DW Gundam lately and with the upcoming Hokuto Musou i feel the need to go back to the roots and play another DW. However, the fact that DW6 doesn't have a Japanese audio have put me off from playing the game. I guess i'll grab an older game or wait for a new one. Any suggestions ?

None of them have Japanese Audio, sadly.

I'd suggest DW5 for the PS2, plays like Gundam Musou and has a moderately ludicrous cast size.

If you're going for a straight DW game, DW5 is the best bet, but I also recommend Warriors Orochi 2.

Thanks for the recommendations :catgirl:, i take it that the 2 games have the Japanese audio as well :)

[Fudce]

I watched my friend play DW6 and it looked very nice, it's been really a long time since i have played DW game. I started playing DW Gundam lately and with the upcoming Hokuto Musou i feel the need to go back to the roots and play another DW. However, the fact that DW6 doesn't have a Japanese audio have put me off from playing the game. I guess i'll grab an older game or wait for a new one. Any suggestions ?

None of them have Japanese Audio, sadly.

I'd suggest DW5 for the PS2, plays like Gundam Musou and has a moderately ludicrous cast size.

If you're going for a straight DW game, DW5 is the best bet, but I also recommend Warriors Orochi 2.

Thanks for the recommendations :catgirl:, i take it that the 2 games have the Japanese audio as well :)

No.

Only one western Dynasty Warriors game has Japanese Audio - and that's Dynasty Warriors: GUNDAM 1. In fact, it was mentioned that none of them have Japanese audio.

[Fudce]

While Kunoichi is a fine piece of eye candy, SW pissed me off far more than it entertained so I intend to resist this time around. Why can't DW have good looking women in it? They've phased out one of the Qiao sisters as playable and Sun Shang Xiang gets uglier with each iteration of the series.

I actually prefer DW6 style Sun Shang Xiang. I mean she was cute before, but that outfit... :)

As for the Qiao's, Xiao Qiao is adorable in DW6, and Da Qiao (http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/images/magazinescans/dwsf2/dwsf2-13.jpg) is making a comeback in the upcoming PSP game Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce 2, which if they do make an Xtreme Legends version for DW6, she'll be in (along with Jiang Wei (http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp191/koeiwarriors/BlackKite/sitenews/dwsf2-jiangwei.jpg))

The lack of some characters in DW6 sucks, but hopefully they've learned their lesson when they get to DW7.

[Glorian]

I watched my friend play DW6 and it looked very nice, it's been really a long time since i have played DW game. I started playing DW Gundam lately and with the upcoming Hokuto Musou i feel the need to go back to the roots and play another DW. However, the fact that DW6 doesn't have a Japanese audio have put me off from playing the game. I guess i'll grab an older game or wait for a new one. Any suggestions ?

None of them have Japanese Audio, sadly.

I'd suggest DW5 for the PS2, plays like Gundam Musou and has a moderately ludicrous cast size.

If you're going for a straight DW game, DW5 is the best bet, but I also recommend Warriors Orochi 2.

Thanks for the recommendations :catgirl:, i take it that the 2 games have the Japanese audio as well :)

No.

Only one western Dynasty Warriors game has Japanese Audio - and that's Dynasty Warriors: GUNDAM 1. In fact, it was mentioned that none of them have Japanese audio.

I have to challenge that statement. Dynasty Warriors 3, at least, has the Japanese track, a fact I'm aware of from hours of playing the game with Japanese voices on the PS2. I'm not sure how many people are interested in playing that old of a DW game, though.

[Mazinkaizer]

None of them have Japanese Audio, sadly.

I'd suggest DW5 for the PS2, plays like Gundam Musou and has a moderately ludicrous cast size.

If you're going for a straight DW game, DW5 is the best bet, but I also recommend Warriors Orochi 2.

Thanks for the recommendations :catgirl:, i take it that the 2 games have the Japanese audio as well :)

No.

Only one western Dynasty Warriors game has Japanese Audio - and that's Dynasty Warriors: GUNDAM 1. In fact, it was mentioned that none of them have Japanese audio.

It's not an issue as that i can get the JP version of the games, if i want to play them.

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It's not an issue as that i can get the JP version of the games, if i want to play them.

If that's the case you may as well pick up Warriors Orochi Z if you have a PS3.

Otherwise second on DW5 for the PS2.

[Nork22]

I actually prefer DW6 style Sun Shang Xiang. I mean she was cute before, but that outfit... :)
Agreed. Makes her look less like a tomboy and more like a lady.

The lack of some characters in DW6 sucks, but hopefully they've learned their lesson when they get to DW7.
And fix their weapons/attacks (or reinstated the DW5 attacks).

[Fudce]

I actually prefer DW6 style Sun Shang Xiang. I mean she was cute before, but that outfit... :)
Agreed. Makes her look less like a tomboy and more like a lady.

The lack of some characters in DW6 sucks, but hopefully they've learned their lesson when they get to DW7.
And fix their weapons/attacks (or reinstated the DW5 attacks).

Some of the new weapons I like, some I don't.

Ma Chao shouldn't have a sword, yet he was decloned to have one. Out of all of the spear wielders, he should not have been the one to lose it.
I did enjoy SSX's Chakram, but her bow has a certain flare to it as a different type of weapon. I'm looking forward to trying Da Qiao's new weapon (looks like a pair of batons) and it'll be nice to have her with something different to Xiao Qiao's fans.

As I said with SSX, I like the bow that Yue Ying had, but her wrist mounted bladed crossbow was much more in fitting with the role she plays. I will always prefer however her original spear-like weapon which played much more like a scythe than a spear.

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What I never liked about SSX in DW6 is that while the bow is a nice change, it made her even weaker than I would like. The best "bow user" they could have gone with is take a leaf out of Ina from Samurai Warriors.

However in saying that, why didn't Koei made Huang Zhong into a pure bow user since he is more know for his bow skill than SSX. That's my main beef with DW6.

[Ty]

And fix their weapons/attacks (or reinstated the DW5 attacks).

This is mostly why I can't play DW6. They actually fixed a few of them for DW6E, but not the ones I really care about. Ma Chao and Zhou Tai were both ruined by the changes, turned from awesome into characters with slow generic move sets. On the other hand Liu Bei became pretty damn amazing, just crazy fast. My other standby when making new characters in 6 Empires is now Cao Pi; fast and very balanced. Most of the characters with heavy hitting power have moves that all feel the same and are unbearably slow. At least they didn't ruin Guan Yu. His new move set isn't as interesting, but he's still an unstoppable killing machine. Guan Ping isn't so bad either actually.

[distantmantra]

Has Hokuto Musou (DW: Fist of the North Star) been officially announced for North America? I noticed that the Japanese version comes out while I'll be on vacation in Japan and I'm contemplating whether I should add it to my shopping list or not...

[Fudce]

Has Hokuto Musou (DW: Fist of the North Star) been officially announced for North America? I noticed that the Japanese version comes out while I'll be on vacation in Japan and I'm contemplating whether I should add it to my shopping list or not...

No confirmation at all yet other than the March date for Japan.


In other news, I've just seen a good picture of the two 'new' characters for Strikeforce 2...

Jiang Wei & Da Qiao (http://s411.photobucket.com/albums/pp191/koeiwarriors/BlackKite/?action=view&current=mr2ssj.jpg)

Jiang Wei is returning with a double-ended spear and a cool outfit. His awakened form is very green and feathery.

Da Qiao's weapon was already known to be a pair of batons, but her awakened form can now be confirmed to be an angelic looking one, perfectly contrasting Xiao Qiao's demonic attire.

[distantmantra]

Koei released a press release for it in English when the game was initially announced, but I can't remember if that was the from US or Japanese branch.

[Mazinkaizer]

Has Hokuto Musou (DW: Fist of the North Star) been officially announced for North America? I noticed that the Japanese version comes out while I'll be on vacation in Japan and I'm contemplating whether I should add it to my shopping list or not...

Well as it was mentioned that there is no word regarding that yet, but if the Sammy 2D fighting game (2007) did not get a US release then i am not sure about this one. But then again the Muso series is popular so i wouldn't rule it out completely.

[Nork22]

Old news but here's some images for the game.

http://scrawlfx.com/2009/12/fist-of-the-north-star-screenshots-detail-characters

New trailer also available. Well looks more like the OP CG animation, but heck, it sure makes you want to power up so that you can make your shirt explode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imki9F81bus

While on Warriors Orochi Z front, I've beaten all the stages on Chaos mode, earning me a Gold Trophy, and one more trophy left to earn a Platinum on this game.

[Mazinkaizer]

http://www.cartoonleap.com/2009/10/14/hokuto-musou-game-seiyuu-event/

I was expecting either the original seiyuu or the New Savior's ones to be in the game. However, all the characters have been re-casted (again no Akira Kamiya :cry: )

I like Katsuyuki Konishi very much, it would be interesting to see how will he pull a Kenshiro role ? Oh well, he won't be worse than Takuhito Koyasu who is among my favorite seiyuu but surly not for his Kenshiro role.

[Betenoire]

Greatly enjoying playing DW Gundam with my brother, though he is either much better than me, I am playing completely wrong or the Wing Gundam is very superior to the God Gundam. I need to play a stage solo every few missions just to catch up. And do I wish I could issue orders-like no, don't run at Char when he is stationary in the center of the screen and I am in the far left corner...Thanks for wasting nearly 1000 kills Peacecraft you yutz. :rolleyes:

[Buster Blader 126]

The games seemed to have changed a fair bit since playing Dynasty Warriors 4. I never did pick up 5 because beating one of these games 100% can take me 1-2 years to beat(!!), and I still haven't fully completed Samurai Warriors. (I've been on-and-off it for years, but I'm starting to think it's an exercise in futility at this point - Kunoichi might not even be enough!)

While a PS3 is finally heading my way, I'm sort of on the fence about whether or not I should start hunting for DW6 (or any of the Musou games) right now - and I'm slightly leaning against it. I've been hearing a lot of mixed opinions on this thread and elsewhere, and despite my completest side of myself breathing a sigh of relief, I am rather dismayed that over half of the cast disappeared in the PS3 version. (6 always did feel like a rush-job to get it out ASAP.) I also hear that the PS2 port has its own set of problems, and I doubt I'd be willing to put up with them in exchange for getting the missing cast members back.

I played a demo of DW Gundam in the past and it doesn't seem to be my thing, while the thought of maxing out every. single. character in a Warriors: Orochi game makes me want to cry.

So is 6 (or any of the newest iterations) worth it, or should I just wait for 7/SW3 and hope for them to be good?

On top of that, are all the games as fast and different as the Orochi series nowadays? I saw my friend play WO2 on the PC, and HOLY SHIT some characters moved 3x as fast while they attack! :sweat: And the moves - they're so different now!

Since you are the resident Musou expert, have the other recent Musou games dumped the Renbu system like Gundam Musou 2 did? Because by god does it ever suck. Who thought this was a good idea?

Also, can we have DW7 PLZ? With DW5 cast, if at all possible.

Not quite the expert, but looks like the Renbu system is here to stay. I've played the Strikeforce demo on the PS3, and that uses a modified Renbu system as well. I'm not sure what's happening with Samurai Warriors 3, but you'll be damn if you think they won't use it.

Good thing I hired out Dynasty Warriors 6, cause while I could live with the Renbu system, it's what they did to some of the characters that made me dislike the game. Why are all the female only arrow users? God you should have seen me using Sun Shang Xiang taking on Lu Bu, which is like using a pea shooter on a raging bull.

No chakrams?! Blasphemy! :relief:

While I obviously don't have a real opinion of her now using a bow, she was the 2nd character I ever used in any DW game, and I loved those things.

[Nork22]

On top of that, are all the games as fast and different as the Orochi series nowadays? I saw my friend play WO2 on the PC, and HOLY SHIT some characters moved 3x as fast while they attack! :sweat: And the moves - they're so different now!
Not really but with the PCs versions, you are able to mod the game to do crazy stuff. But if you play WO2 (or to an extent WOZ) on the consoles, with the right combinations and modification to your weapons, you are basically an unstoppable killing machine, even Gracia.

And then there is Sun Wukong/Goku who is the fastest character made. I out ran my brother while he was on a horse not was not Red Hare or Matsukaze.

[Nork22]

Siliconera reports that Hokuto Musou is getting a European release.

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/03/05/fist-of-the-north-star-punches-european-retailers-this-summer/

Sweet!!!

[Fudce]

I'm interested in FotNS (as they seem to be calling it in the west - what, no 'Warriors' motif?) but don't know if it'll work like other Warriors titles... thankfully there'll almost certainly be a demo :)