Chu-Bra!! Discussion Thread (Pantsu Advisory Warning)

[Fudce]

Middleschool girls creating an underwear club? Sounds like a good enough reason for an anime to me! It starts next week, and it may potentially be on Crunchyroll too.

ANN entry (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=11135).
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu-Bra!!).
Official site (http://www.starchild.co.jp/special/chuubra/).


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[Fudce]

Yeah, I know it's a week before it airs, but I found a raw copy of episode one floating around at some ridiculously low resolution and just had to watch it...


Looks fun so far. Nayu is adorable as the somewhat isolated wierd girl, and the two friends Yako and Haruka are fun. I love Yako's hair, it seems to have a mind of its own.

As for the episode, pretty much your standard "introduce the characters and make them friends" stuff. Only with panties as the catalyst. There appears to be all of the standard anime characters, a short girl, a big breasted girl, a bullied girl, a sexy teacher voiced this time by Sayaka Ohara...

I look forward to watching the episode next week and learning exactly what happened.

[bci110]

Yeah, I know it's a week before it airs, but I found a raw copy of episode one floating around at some ridiculously low resolution and just had to watch it...

I came across it this past Sunday mainly out on a whim, and like you I had to see it. Honestly I have to admit that it did had its fun moments, but I don't think it was that exciting or original or good; to me it just wasn't as entertaining as, say, the first episode of Ladies vs. Butlers (which looks like it's going to be a very energetic and fun series).

I actually found Nayu more annoying than adorable, but her two friends show some promise. Can't really say that about the supporting cast, unfortunately. Both voice acting and animation were pretty decent, but nothing spectacular or mind-blowing.

Right now it looks like that Chu-Bra! is going to end up on my dropped list. However I'm going to be fair and give this series a 3-episode trial just like the other shows on the winter schedule that I plan to watch. Maybe something will happen in the next couple of episodes that will make me change my mind. But for now I'm leaning towards not watching this series beyond January.

[Suwako Moriya]

I'm not 100% sold on it yet, but the first episode was in some ways better than expected. I guess a lot of it will depend on how they handle the idea of bras and panties as part of the plot over the long haul.

[bci110]

I guess a lot of it will depend on how they handle the idea of bras and panties as part of the plot over the long haul.

That's going to be the deal breaker for me. If it ends up being another average bra-and-panties-type show, then I think I'll pass.

[Suwako Moriya]

I guess a lot of it will depend on how they handle the idea of bras and panties as part of the plot over the long haul.

That's going to be the deal breaker for me. If it ends up being another average bra-and-panties-type show, then I think I'll pass.

On that note, the series has quite the challenge ahead of itself. As it can't ignore the "bra and panties" aspect. Otherwise there would be no point to the show. As such it has to find a way to make it interesting or at least have the fanservice work for people.

[Konoha]

I was looking at the official site, and the main characeters are 12? Is this seriously a show about 12 year olds filled with panty shots? I'm curious if this can be portrayed in some way that isn't totally skeevy.

[bci110]

I guess a lot of it will depend on how they handle the idea of bras and panties as part of the plot over the long haul.

That's going to be the deal breaker for me. If it ends up being another average bra-and-panties-type show, then I think I'll pass.

On that note, the series has quite the challenge ahead of itself. As it can't ignore the "bra and panties" aspect. Otherwise there would be no point to the show. As such it has to find a way to make it interesting or at least have the fanservice work for people.

That's going to be the show's biggest problem in my view; and from what I saw in the first episode they're going to have to do a ton more work if they want to keep me as a viewer.

[Suwako Moriya]

I was looking at the official site, and the main characeters are 12? Is this seriously a show about 12 year olds filled with panty shots? I'm curious if this can be portrayed in some way that isn't totally skeevy.

I would not be surprised if they try to have it both ways. Ie some focus that's of the serious type and some of which is the fanservice type. As for their ages being 12, I wonder if they chose that age for a reason aside from fanservice related stuff of course.

[EmperorBrandon]

a sexy teacher voiced this time by Sayaka Ohara...

Haha... I'm definitely curious to see some more of her... (wasn't too much of her in the first episode), and it seems she has a teacher friend too.

The main three seem like a fun bunch so far, and I rather enjoyed the first episode for what it's worth (despite some odd moments). I do wonder if this will just be a rather guilty pleasure in the end, but I think it has potential beyond that. I'll have to see I guess, but I like it so far.

[Chris Beveridge]

I look forward to watching the episode next week and learning exactly what happened.

It was definitely better than I expected it to be. There are the obvious issue abound, but still, it wasn't quite as skeevy as I thought it could be. It almost sounded educational at times.

Our review (http://www.mania.com/chubra-episode-01_article_119740.html)

[Fudce]

I look forward to watching the episode next week and learning exactly what happened.

It was definitely better than I expected it to be. There are the obvious issue abound, but still, it wasn't quite as skeevy as I thought it could be. It almost sounded educational at times.

Our review (http://www.mania.com/chubra-episode-01_article_119740.html)

Yeah, I just got through watching it, and was happy that it wasn't quite as bad as it looked.

I followed most of it raw, with just the details needing to be filled in this week when I watched it on Crunchyroll. I'm definitly going to be following this one on a weekly basis, that much is certain.

On a seiyuu note, it's interesting to hear Sayuri Yahagi (who I mostly know as Izumi Segawa in Hayate the Combat Butler) in a slightly lower register role. I've heard her being more sedate in Shugo Chara (Rima) but I can't recall hearing this voice from her in the past. I do like it though, and while I still love her classic Izumi voice, hearing more of her in this range would be good too.

[bluesilo]

Its not as bad as I thought it could be. It should be a fun watch as a matter of fact. Sign me up for next week.

[Fencedude]

That was...not terrible.

Not great, but acceptable.

More Nayu/Haruka would make it better though.

[Draneor]

Uh, I'm kind of speechless to be honest. Talking emoticons for nipples... And uh, a turtle? Uh...

I have no idea if I will continue with this or not. Just, watching it would make an interesting drinking game.^^U

[Suwako Moriya]

Talking emoticons for nipples...

I think that's the part that bothered me the most for some reason. It just came off kind of tacky. Remains to be seen how I'll feel after watching this with subs come sometime next week. Assuming I do of course.

[Chris Beveridge]

Uh, I'm kind of speechless to be honest. Talking emoticons for nipples...

Now that had me laughing. It was something I hadn't actually seen done before so it earned points for that alone.

[bci110]

Uh, I'm kind of speechless to be honest. Talking emoticons for nipples...

Now that had me laughing. It was something I hadn't actually seen done before so it earned points for that alone.

Shame that it was really the only funny moment of the episode in my view :sd: .

[HitokiriShadow]

The main girls have some fun personalities, so there's a lot of potential there, but the heavy focus on panties and underwear largely negates that. Given the title, premise, and OP/ED animation, I don't expect the series to ever tone that aspect down (on the other hand, these things can sometimes be misleading... like To-Love-Ru), and if it continues like this, it might be too much for me to get an overall positive experience from this series.

[TheGreenMan]

This is definitely cute. Nayu is very adorable and the other two are great too. The three of them remind of Rin, Mimi and Kuro (although Nayu is not as perverted as Rin is).

The only thing I had a problem with is the other two girls suddenly lamenting that "if there were someone out there to teach us about underwear?!" That seemed odd to me and out of place.

[ilmaestro]

Uh, I'm kind of speechless to be honest. Talking emoticons for nipples... And uh, a turtle? Uh...

I have no idea if I will continue with this or not. Just, watching it would make an interesting drinking game.^^U
lol, these were my feelings exactly. I think the only thing I could say at various points during the episode (especially the emoticon nipples) was a garbled "WHA..?!?!"

I can't say I agree with the "non-skeevy" assessments of the show, to be honest. This could just be because I'm a socially reprehensible pervert who can't see past the obvious, but then again the obvious is really obvious so I'm happy to partially condemn the people who came up with this, rather than myself.

I am, however, a complete sucker for girls with a Kansai accent, so I will keep watching this for Haruka, at least for the moment. Kiyono looks like she could improve the show, too.

[something]

Time to get Winter 2010 started before I fall too behind.

Episode 1:

- Ugh the translator flips name order. How irritating.
- Thats a lot of panties in the OP.
- Wow, what is wrong with Yako's head? She looks deformed.
- So... heh, Nayu is Chihara Minori. Mizuno-sensei is Ohara Sayaka.
- ...Engrish!
- Haruka is Yahagi Sayuri, which I'd already read before watching, but the voice doesn't quite sound like what I'm used to from her. She's using a more subdued voice, and with a bit of an accent. Interesting.
- I'm gonna like Mizuno-sensei a lot.
- Nayu is mesmerized by Haruka's boobs. :sd:
- I do hope the bullying of Nayu doesn't last too long.
- So after calling enjokousai "having a sugar daddy" the whole episode, suddenly they go with the more common translation of paid/subsidized dating. :sd: Yay consistency.
- Jeeeze, Haruka looks like she's a good five years older than everyone else in her class. :sd: I like her.
- Yako and Haruka finally find their lingerie guru! It's kinda cute but I'm still not sure what to think of the Keigo guy.
- Ah, you can totally hear the Yahagi when Haruka laughs nervously. That's too distinctive to miss.
- ....O_O Hahaha what? Her nipples turned into faces. It totally didn't even register with me at first how fucked up that is.

Huh, that was better than I expected. Good seiyuu and pretty good animation. I really like the ED too, and HOLY CRAP NEED TO MEET KIYONO! Zettai ryouiki and twintails. Even better, looks like she'll be joining as Nayu's friend rather than being on the bully side. And in typical anime fashion, the girls are "12" but of course look nothing like it so I'm not bothered at all by the massive fanservice.

This one has potential but only if it doesn't focus too heavily on Nayu being ostracized from the class.

[The Great Bear]

- ....O_O Hahaha what? Her nipples turned into faces. It totally didn't even register with me at first how fucked up that is.

Yeah, that was………………yeah :sd:

And in typical anime fashion, the girls are "12" but of course look nothing like it so I'm not bothered at all by the massive fanservice.

Yet another show that suffers from Anime Age Syndrome. This time of the "overdeveloped" variant.

[HitokiriShadow]

And in typical anime fashion, the girls are "12" but of course look nothing like it so I'm not bothered at all by the massive fanservice.


I'm fine with lots of fanservice but there's something about when the characters themselves, regardless of age (couldn't care less about their alleged ages), focusing so heavily on underwear is just awkward in a way that bothers me a bit. Thankfully, the girls themselves are pretty fun otherwise, so hopefully that will be enough to put up with the other awkwardness.

The face breasts were pretty funny though. Throwing in more WTF moments like that would also go a good ways towards making up for the other awkwardness.

[something]

I'm fine with lots of fanservice but there's something about when the characters themselves, regardless of age (couldn't care less about their alleged ages), focusing so heavily on underwear is just awkward in a way that bothers me a bit.
It would bother me more if underwear weren't the entire premise of the show, I guess. I'm not big on pantyshots for my fanservice, but this is, well... Panties: The Anime.

[Suwako Moriya]

Yet another show that suffers from Anime Age Syndrome. This time of the "overdeveloped" variant.

For me, it's mostly large chested girl that makes me do a double take. Also, while they're listed as 12, I have to wonder if some may be closer to 13.

[something]

Also, while they're listed as 12, I have to wonder if some may be closer to 13.
They're 12 going on 17.

[Suwako Moriya]

Also, while they're listed as 12, I have to wonder if some may be closer to 13.
They're 12 going on 17.

Ah, so they give new meaning to skipping grades then?

[Chris Beveridge]

I continue to think I'm going to get vilified for liking this show for the reasons that I do. (http://www.mania.com/chubra-episode-02_article_119877.html)

[The Great Bear]

I continue to think I'm going to get vilified for liking this show for the reasons that I do. (http://www.mania.com/chubra-episode-02_article_119877.html)

Nah, I wouldn't worry about that.

I haven't seen this episode yet (won't be able to get to it until later tonight), but thinking about the first episode again, I think what saved it from being creepy and offensive was the sheer ridiculousness of Nayu. There's no need to suspend disbelief with her character, because there's no need to believe she's real in the first place. None of the other girls are real either. While development rates vary by genetics, I don't remember ever seeing a girl like Haruka when I was in seventh grade. Sure, some were already showing signs of development, but not to that extent.

I think this being animated is important to the whole premise. Can anyone imagine what it would be like if someone tried to do a live action version of this show? I'd rather not see the firestorm that would erupt.

The show may have an educational purpose, but beyond that, it's so ridiculously over the top that that cancels out the potential creep factor–so far.

[something]

I think this being animated is important to the whole premise. Can anyone imagine what it would be like if someone tried to do a live action version of this show? I'd rather not see the firestorm that would erupt.
Well, yeah. Anime and reality (or in this case fiction, but using real people) work, in my opinion, in entirely different logical frameworks. I have absolutely no problem whatsoever finding a "12" (lol) year old sexy in an anime. But a real 12 year old? Just another dumb kid. Can't stand em. Certainly not ever going to be sexy to me, of all things. Well, not since I was also 12 anyway.

The show may have an educational purpose, but beyond that, it's so ridiculously over the top that that cancels out the potential creep factor–so far.
It is pretty ridiculous - and at the same time, it's also really not all that outrageous for anime. I mean, nothing about the premise makes me go "HOLY SHIT!". The talking nipples were bizarre, but not because they were on a middle schooler, rather it's because they were talking nipples.

[Fencedude]

I find myself fully supporting Haruka/Nayu. Sadly the blonde dude is going to get in the way of my dreams.

Anyway, Haruka's the best character in the show, improbable boobs aside (and not that improbable, I actually knew an unusually stacked 7th grader back when I was in high school, if maybe not quite that much), she's the only reality based member of the trio.

Looking forward to meeting Kiyono, she's clearly an ojou-sama, but I'm curious as to her personality.

[Suwako Moriya]

Well, that was much better the second time around. Aside from having a translation, I also have a better idea what to expect.

I expect Nayu to be dangerous and Haruka to be hot. What?

Also, while at first the premise concerned me if I think about it a bit more it's not really that bad in comparison to the following.

It's not like this is the fist time we've had an attractive girls of that supposed age in anime. It's not like it's the first time there's been fanservice scenes of such characters.

In the case of Haruka's chest, I think it being that large is a classic case of trying to make the point extra clear. Perhaps they figure if they're that large, it will be impossible for the audience to ignore her being over-developed.

[HitokiriShadow]

This episode didn't bug me like the first episode did, for whatever reason, so it was a bit of an improvement. On the other hand, its still underwear drama, which isn't terribly interesting no matter how its done. Fortunately, the girls are still fun enough to keep me watching, and I like the random cutaways to animals and kendo.

Also, while real yuri would be better, mistaken yuri is better than nothing. I hope the Haruka/Nayu misunderstood yuri continues throughout the show as a running gag.

[jlazar]

Funny episode again, not quite as over the top as the 1st one. I like the characters and how the three main girls interact. I find it interesting that she MADE the bra instead of just buying an appropriate one, but I guiess that's how dedicated she is to perfect underwear. :)

Glad this anime didn't suffer like Seikon no Qwaser in which one of the primary points of that story (breast milk sucking) was pretty much censored out. An anime about bras and panties would be kind of pointless if they couldn't show the bras and panties. Guess this isn't being broadcast on regular TV. The talking breasts with nose nipples in ep 1 might have slipped by, but the nipple shot in this episode wouldn't have.


Hidamari Sketch is still the best of the season, of course, but this is a clear leader for the rest of the pack this season.

[Draneor]

Guess this isn't being broadcast on regular TV.

I believe it's being broadcasted on AT-X.

[William K]

Guess this isn't being broadcast on regular TV.

I believe it's being broadcasted on AT-X.

Yes, AT-X is the only channel broadcasting it and it's at 23:30 which would have been impossible I guess for regular TV :)

They are also showing Ladies vs Butlers at 22:00...

And they are going to be showing Qwaser at 11:30!

[TheGreenMan]

The whole pantsu Superfriends-like thing inbetween the scenes in pretty cute.

"Meanwhile, back in Nayu's underwear obsessed brain."

[something]

Episode 2:

- Well, Keigo gets points for staying calm in front of nopan Nayu.
- No, they're right, Haruka! YURI!! ...too bad it won't happen.
- Ouch. Nayu means well, but way to hit Yako where it hurts. Especially since she's friends with BOIN BOIN HARUKA.
- And again. She's right to alert Yako to what happened, but she could stand to say it more quietly. :sd:
- Heh. Nayu has such an intense dedication to underwear. It has to be the strongest non-perverted interest in underwear ever.
- There CR goes failing at subbing on-screen text again. Context clues you in but it's 手芸 (shugei, handicrafts) and not explained.
- Okay, so she made Yako a bra. What are the odds she gives it to her at some completely inappropriate moment?
- Ahahahah, oh yes, Haruka takes the initiative! ...I wish. Well, I'll have fun interpreting everything the way I want until blond guy comes in and ruins the show.
- YES. Haruka is amazing. She seems at first like the character who will be the least interesting but boobs + accent + pseudo-yuri + awesome personality = winning combination!
- She's also good at stripping Yako. Although I'd rather see her strip Nayu.
- Damn. There he is. The bringer of death. The messenger of despair. The corruption, the plague, the calamity that will destroy this show from within. THE BLOND DEVIL! I demand copious Kiyono immediately to counteract it.

[Fencedude]

NINE members? Seriously? What a strict school. Most of the time its 4~5. This makes things far more complicated.

We got our first looks at Kiyono, first a shot of her panties, which seemed unusually nice, though Nayu missed it, I think Haruka noticed though. Then at the end...she smiled, though what it means is unknown.

This is a good season for busty female teachers.

Oh and there was some dude. I think.

[EmperorBrandon]

Oh and there was some dude. I think.

There was? I must have forgotten... :)

Mizuno-sensei seems like a nice character. Definitely curious what sort of role she'll play as the inevitable (I'm assuming) advisor of the club. Needing 9 members did strike me as unusual too.

[ilmaestro]

Three whole eps in and only a combined five seconds or so of Kiyono makes me ;_; Much Haruka makes up for it a bit, though. This show keeps on confusing me as to whether it is as bad as it could have been, much better, or good because it's that bad.

[something]

Episode 3:

- She can sense instant changes in wind speed and start scouting for panties immediately. >_>
- Boo. A male. =(
- YAY. A ZETTAI RYOUIKI. =D
- Oh god Mizuno-sensei is so hot. Gym clothes should be her everyday outfit.
- Ah screw the crafts club, Nayu. The bitchy bitches are there anyway. Go with Yako's suggestion!
- Dude is annoying.
- Hah! The teacher Nayu proposes it too has probably the calmest reaction to the idea so far. And immediately proposes Mizuno advise it. =D 10 members is insane, though.
- Fuck yeah! Mizuno stands up for Nayu! I like her more and more.
- Nayu's underwear talks to her!
- Honestly, I have to imagine that Nayu won't be able to form an official club. I doubt we'll get 10 recurring student characters, let alone 10 in the club. From the OP/ED we've only got Nayu, Haruka, Yako, Kiyono, 3 bitches, and dude. That's only 8 and requires her to win over 3 antagonists, 1 male, and to get Haruka and Yako to ditch their own clubs.
- Well, no luck so far certainly. No surprise, but it makes me sad for Nayu. =(

She just needs to hurry up and meet Kiyono and have an informal club with her and Yako and Haruka and Mizuno.

[ilmaestro]

I'm hoping Kiyono will be something like the school Principle's daughter and will swing it so they can have their club with however many members. Or just be so awesome that random people will sign up to the club just because she has.

[Suwako Moriya]

Nayu's obsession with bras and panties is quite intense. Sometimes it's hard not to think weird things about her.

So this is the story about how Yako gets a bra.

Haruka's chest is err hypnotic. I feel wrong for some reason.

Seems like this series is both trying to be a serious story and a fanservice show at the same time. Which is kind of tricky since you have to both sides can accept the other aspect.

So part of the story involves the complications of the type of panties and bras that girls wear over time, right? Heh, I just had a funny thought. Imagine a "male" version of the story. I can see it now!

Should I wear boxers or briefs? *Ten Seconds Later* I know I'll wear... *Credits Roll* Seriously, it would probably be shorter and a lot simpler. It would also not be the version for me to watch.

[William K]

She just needs to hurry up and meet Kiyono and have an informal club with her and Yako and Haruka and Mizuno.

I could see Nayu becoming the unofficial underwear provider for all the clubs the other girls belong to. I mean you have special requirements for things to wear for kendo and cooking, right?

I'm liking the voice Chihara Minori is using for Nayu, and Kotobuki Minako is again showing she's got the most impressive range among the K-On girls with her Yako here. Can't wait to hear what Kiyono (Mio!) sounds like

[Fencedude]

Haruka discovers she likes Nayu's touch. Stop denying your true feelings!

Also Kiyono dropped quite the bomb on them there at the end. <3 <3 <3

[EmperorBrandon]

The bit with Haruka at the beginning had me sad. :( This was a pretty cute episode, and I think I liked this one the best so far. It's a shame the peeping toms ruined it after Nayu finally seemed to be getting some girls interested.

Haruka discovers she likes Nayu's touch. Stop denying your true feelings!

Haha... It was also amusing that those girls thought Nayu was going after Yako now too.

Also Kiyono dropped quite the bomb on them there at the end. <3 <3 <3

Seems like her presence in the series might be quite interesting.

[something]

Episode 4:

- Oh wow, did someone fuck up with the video? I'm getting a lot of that... what is it... combing? I haven't gotten that in previous eps (or like, in any CR videos in general) and it's really really bad here.
- The audio is kinda fucked up too, though less so. ::sends in a problem report::
- Anyway, it's the "dumb boys tease girl about big boobs" episdoe I guess. Stupid kids. You should celebrate and respect those boobs, not giggle like douchebags.
- That is a fucking lot of taiyaki. Ayu would love this guy.
- Hahahaha, PuchiYako!
- Yako is being kinda awesome. Do hope to see her go all kendo on some dumb guy at some point.
- Can I nominate blond guy for most unnecessary male lead of Winter 2009 yet? This show is doing perfectly well without him.
- Mecha-Nayu, Grope Mode Engaged!
- Haha, oh god, I love how she just locks the door behind her and goes to town.
- Hahaha, Mizuno-sensei is being lectured on breasts by a middle schooler. Damn she is hot though.
- Wasn't expecting Nayu to get such a good turnout. Nice! I'm also surprised Nayu was okay with letting Yako pad a bit. Seems she anticipated it, though, and had better tools ready.
- Go go Haruka! You can do it!
- Man, that was... oddly really nice. When Haruka takes off her shirt and the girls react kindly/with awe, it was actually pretty moving. See? This show isn't just fanservice. That was some seriously cool stuff. I'm really liking the balance this show is able to strike so far.
- ...At the same time, HARUKA LIKES NAYU'S TOUCH, FUCK YEA. (Like I said, balance!)
- Tiresome old bitch is really tiresome. C'mon blondie, this is your chance to speak up and make yourself relevant to this show as something other than obligatory token Y chromosome.
- Or he could do nothing. Eh. Points for taking on the peepers I guess.
- AHAHAHAH holy shit Kiyono.

This show definitely has one of my favorite ED sequences of the season.

[EmperorBrandon]

- Man, that was... oddly really nice. When Haruka takes off her shirt and the girls react kindly/with awe, it was actually pretty moving. See? This show isn't just fanservice. That was some seriously cool stuff. I'm really liking the balance this show is able to strike so far.

I thought the same there. It was pretty sweet after we had been through her insecurity over them earlier in the episode.

This show definitely has one of my favorite ED sequences of the season.

Qualifying as a single, unchanging ED, I most definitely agree. Hanamaru Kindergarten's have been great, but they change every week.

[TheGreenMan]

Episode 4:

- ...At the same time, HARUKA LIKES NAYU'S TOUCH, FUCK YEA. (Like I said, balance!)


*Laughs evilly* I like this development.

[something]

- ...At the same time, HARUKA LIKES NAYU'S TOUCH, FUCK YEA. (Like I said, balance!)*Laughs evilly* I like this development.
Yeah, but it makes the guy even more of a disruption to the show. The amount of stuff he can ruin just increased. =(

[TheGreenMan]

- ...At the same time, HARUKA LIKES NAYU'S TOUCH, FUCK YEA. (Like I said, balance!)*Laughs evilly* I like this development.
Yeah, but it makes the guy even more of a disruption to the show. The amount of stuff he can ruin just increased. =(

I think he's there just a joke character, like Kyotaro from Saki. Hopefully.

[HitokiriShadow]

Yay, Kiyono finally says something! Seeing what she might add to the show has been the main thing keeping me watching and she just might be worth the wait.

[ilmaestro]

This is one ridiculous drip-feed approach they're taking to Kiyono. :( At least she said something, and at least it was awesome. Will not be impressed if they leave her until the very end of the ep next week, too, though.

The rest of the ep was pretty cool, too, they are treating it (largely) maturely, with only the odd "lapse" (not that I can really chastise them too much for that).

Haruka discovers she likes Nayu's touch. Stop denying your true feelings!
Yes, and

- Oh wow, did someone fuck up with the video? I'm getting a lot of that... what is it... combing? I haven't gotten that in previous eps (or like, in any CR videos in general) and it's really really bad here.
yes.

[Suwako Moriya]

So once more a series allows us to blame everything on Grandma?

Forget the fanservice, it's Nayu's obsession that makes it hard to treat the show seriously sometimes. She's a bit too extreme.

Seriously, I can imagine her starting to make love with Haruka, but stopping in the middle. Why? Because Nayu decides to spend the rest of the time hugging Haruka's panties and bra instead, forgetting that Haruka is even there.

So she's trying to form an Underwear club?

Will the guy prove his worth or will he just be there to fulfill a quota?

[Fencedude]

Haruka is relieved that Nayu doesn't have a boy she's interested in. GANBATTE HARUKA-CHAN!

Anyway, instead of a club they form an appreciation society, as suggested by Komachi of all people. Initial members are Nayu, Komachi, Haruka and Yako, with Mizuno as the adviser.

We also learn that Keigo was Mizuno's sempai in high school. Mizuno promptly falls all over him.

And at the end, Kiyono invites herself into the society!

Kiyono has really amazing legs.

[something]

Episode 5:

- Blaaah, the combing issue has not gone away, and they've still haven't fixed episode 4 either. I'll leave the ep playing on mute in the background so it registers a watch for the show's creators in terms of revenues, but I've got to go elsewhere for real watching. Sigh. I really hope they get this problem fixed.
- You know, I really like Keigo. He's incredibly mature for a guy in his role. No freaking out even when Nayu starts undressing right in front of him. He's also really supportive of her, which is nice.
- "I'll help you do it!" And he suddenly realizes what he just said.
- Sigh. Haruka yuri, slipping away, slipping far, far away... ;_;
- Hah, Mizuno has it bad for Keigo. Damn she's so cute.
- Yako discovers side-tie panties!
- Haha, Keigo can remember someone by their large breasts and not sound creepy saying it.
- Oh jeeze, he did it to Haruka too. :sd:
- I really like how Nayu has her hair up in the bath scene.
- Fuuuuuuuuuuuck. They're totaly not being subtle about Haruka having the hots for Nayu anymore. That makes blond guy sooooooooo much worse. Curse this show. Eh, maybe Haruka can discover Kiyono... they'll likely be setting Yako up with the kendo boy in the ED, so they're the only two who will probably be free.

Post-ED:
- Oh shit, GO KIYONO! Finally she joins!

[Suwako Moriya]

So much for the idea of forming a club....

I'm not sure if the Haruka x Nayu stuff is awesome or cruel. I guess it depends on whether or not, they pull yet another "Just Kidding" routine.

I'd hate to break it to someone, but even if the girls dressed in unflattering clothes. Even if the purpose of a given club was just to watch paint dry. Certain boys would still find a way to be perverted about it...:sweat:

[TheGreenMan]

I guess this episode confirms Haruka is a lesbian. Too bad she's going to be shafted. Ugh.

[ilmaestro]

Yes! Kiyono right at the start of the ep, this must finally be the ep where she gets serious screentime other than the last five seconds...

Well, it had better be next week or else.

[Chris Beveridge]

I feel lost without a new episode. :(

[Fudce]

I'm having pantsu withdrawal symptoms.

[Chris Beveridge]

I was surprised by it this morning, and then seeing there's almost no new premium content on the anime calendar for the rest of February.

[Classical]

On the Chu-Bra!! homepage on CR it says there has been a some kind of delay for episode 6, but that they're working on it and hope to upload the episode as soon as possible. I wonder what happened?

[Suwako Moriya]

It all makes sense now. This is actually the tragic lover story about a large chested female student that will likely lose her twin tailed true love to a blond boy. It's so sad!:cry:

[ilmaestro]

CR seemed to have fixed whatever problem they were having.

[Fencedude]

Well, whatever the problem was, they haven't fixed the combing.

Anyway, Kiyono's pretty awesome, I have a feeling she's hiding some major self confidence issues though.

Its interesting how she approaches Nayu from a different way most other people who object to Nayu do. I have rather more sympathy for Nayu's arguments.

The best Kiyono moments are when someone manages to fluster her though.

Mizuno had some great moments as well, and at the end with Kiyono saying to Haruka and Mizuno that she doesn't need to help busty girls. On the other hand, Kiyono's a pretty good example that a girl doesn't need to have big boobs to be highly attractive.

[ilmaestro]

Kiyono was definitely worth the wait. ^_^

Seems probably the most complex character of the bunch, as well as the most fun. There are definitely big personal reasons behind her attitude, and wonderfully she already shows some cracks in her composure (She doesn't want to help out girls with large breasts ^^; ). I think Nayu is going to win her over (although that may be a less-than-outrageous prediction).

This has become a surprisingly likable show.

[TheGreenMan]

Kiyono pretty darned cute when she gets flustered. I wonder who she's in love with though--I don't think we have look outside that room to figure out who it is.

[Fencedude]

Kiyono pretty darned cute when she gets flustered. I wonder who she's in love with though--I don't think we have look outside that room to figure out who it is.

Haruka!

[Herron]

I'm really enjoying this show. It's quite informative too! From the next episode preview I learned that western style underwear became popular due to the deaths of Japanese women in a fire!

I was watching this at work and I had an interesting exchange with my female coworker(the episode was pretty much over so no one saw the ecchi-ness) I was explaining how the show was about underwear and how it was pretty informative and I told her about learning how too tight of bras with underwire can deform your ribs! She confessed to wearing way to small of bras quite often and wondered if that's why her chest was shaped weird! (I had noticed that her chest, as in ribs, is indented)

I felt good that I was able to pass on information from a show that most would just deem as a perverted romp, just because it deals with women's underwear!

I also really like Mizuno... because she's like me... pretty unfeminine and clueless about being womanly. :sweat:

[Classical]

Kiyono was definitely worth the wait. ^_^

Seems probably the most complex character of the bunch, as well as the most fun. There are definitely big personal reasons behind her attitude, and wonderfully she already shows some cracks in her composure (She doesn't want to help out girls with large breasts ^^; ). I think Nayu is going to win her over (although that may be a less-than-outrageous prediction).


Kiyono is a really fascinating personality. I like her. :catgirl: I loved watching the clash between her and Nayu that involved the purpose of underwear.

I couldn't help but feel bad for Mizuno when Kiyono laid the smackdown on her. :sweat:

[something]

Episode 6:

- Kiyono is amazing. Almost as amazing as her zettai ryouiki.
- Man she's coming down hard on Yako. :sd:
- ! Wait, what? Kiyono is capable of feeling embarrassment?
- And she reacts by just taking them off entirely. HOLY CRAP. ...Haruka looks pretty into it!
- Oh god, what timing. A uniform check.
- Hahaha, WHAT. Nayu';s image of a cat is... well... uh... <3
- Ohhh. right. Duh, the clubs would have met after school, so this check-up is the next day. Heh, it could have gotten quite interesting otherwise. :sd:
- Even the teachers are pretty awestruck at Kiyono's attitude.
- Awww, Mizuno looking in the mirror was so damn cute.
- ...Blond guy being in this show still seems just profoundly unnecessary and pointless. Every time he is on screen, the only thing I can think is, "...WHY?"
- Time for the engineering of bras!
- Oh man Kiyono is turning her bitchiness up to the max. Mizuno doesn't need to try in order to exude womanly charm! It's natural!
- Op-π! XD
- Hmm, I wonder what Kiyono's deal is. My guess is that she's in love with an older guy who won't take her completely seriously due to her age. Thus she's desperate to grow up as quickly as possible. For whatever reason, she's decided that underwear is her way to reach it.
- Yako teasing Mizuno is gold.
- Yes Yako, please imagine Haruka in those bras more.

I think Nayu and Kiyono provide an interesting contrast in how they understand underwear. For Kiyono, they're "weapons", and at the same time an obligation. She wants to win a man over and then keep him pleased. It's a mixture of feminine assertiveness and subservience. She values her female body and that's a good thing, but I feel like she's selling herself short on what precisely it means to her. Nayu on the other hand sees underwear as protection, even as a friend. The underwear works together with your body.

In the end, Kiyono believes in using underwear for other people. Nayu believes that underwear is something you use for yourself. Nayu's outlook might seem naive but it's definitely healthier, and it's not like she ignores the aesthetic side of it either. Nayu has found the balance that Kiyono hasn't in her desperate rush to grow up.

At any rate, very good episode. Kiyono is a really interesting character, and I think becoming friends with Nayu is going to be the best thing that's ever happened to her.

[Edit: Oh, there's a post-ED sequence. Aw, don't hate on the nice boobs, Kiyono.


CR seemed to have fixed whatever problem they were having.
But whatever it was, they didn't actually fix what was wrong with the damn video... the horrible combing! Once again I have to let the episode play in the background on mute (so it registers as a view for the show) while I rely on other sources for an acceptable video file to actually watch. Honestly, what the fuck, three episodes in a row? And I've reported it every time.

[Classical]

Episode 6:
I think Nayu and Kiyono provide an interesting contrast in how they understand underwear. For Kiyono, they're "weapons", and at the same time an obligation. She wants to win a man over and then keep him pleased. It's a mixture of feminine assertiveness and subservience. She values her female body and that's a good thing, but I feel like she's selling herself short on what precisely it means to her.


Yeah, that's one aspect of Kiyono that I like, in that she's assertive with her femininity and relishes it. But I do feel bad for her in that she views looking good as an obligation to others (as suppose to her being feminine solely because she enjoys it) as it makes her own femininity seem as subservient. I understand that she wants to look good for others, but what if the one special person she's after doesn't like her or they way she looks? How will she feel about herself then?

I'd add more but my thoughts are an entangled mess right now. :sweat:

[TheGreenMan]

This episode concentrates on Komachi-kun and his whole "I'm not lewd, but I still get nosebleeds when I see erotic stuff" attitude. Fairly predictable.
Nayu gets a love letter--please tell me it's from a girl...doh. But, we getting Haruka fretting over it. Hehe.
And Yako uses a slur? Or is it? (Come to think of it, he doesn't have slanted eyes, neither does anyone else).
Avocado Miso Soup Shake? How can such a vile concoction exist?
...or is the last two things a product of CR's subbing?

[something]

Episode 7:

- Nayu gets a love letter. Haruka is heartbroken! They're pushing the yuri so hard, but it'll go nowhere.
- Summer uniforms look really nice on the girls. Especially Kiyono. Works extra well on her of some reason.
- GET BLOND GUY OUT OF THIS SHOW. Stop bitching and quit the club, you dipshit!
- Hah, Kiyono likes to be such an exhibitionist, but only on her own terms. Soon as Nayu goes into shitagi-mode, Kiyono is all nervous.
- He did quit! ..but it doesn't matter because he'll be right back, meh.
- Howto apologize to... for fuck's sake. WHY? Komachi really is going to ruin this show for me.
- And the love letter really was one. It just got put in the wrong box. :sd:
- Meh, he wasn't even out of it for one episode.

He's really sapping away my desire to watch this show, even though it's so damn good in every other respect. I wound up actually skipping past about a quarter of this episode because of him. There's just no plot development imaginable in which he's a positive force.

[EmperorBrandon]

I thought there a lot of cute Nayu moments in this episodes. I'm not really bothered by Komachi as much as others seem to be.

[Suwako Moriya]

I'm not really bothered by Komachi as much as others seem to be.

My main feeling on him right now after five episode is that he seems to mostly be there to essentially fill space. Also, that he seems to be a bit on the whiny side. If he's still the same way in six and seven, I'm going to be worried.

[Fencedude]

Haruka's vaguely confused pining and anything involving Kiyono are the best parts of the show.

[The Great Bear]

I'm not really bothered by Komachi as much as others seem to be.

To be honest, I'm not finding his presence to be a problem either. He's not the most interesting character, he seems to be there mainly to get flustered, yet also to provide some restraint to Nayu's over-exuberance regarding underwear.

What the writers do with him in the end can either make him a useful member of the cast, or merely a plot coupon. Either way, it doesn't really bother me all that much.

[Herron]

I'm not really bothered by Komachi as much as others seem to be.

My main feeling on him right now after five episode is that he seems to mostly be there to essentially fill space. Also, that he seems to be a bit on the whiny side. If he's still the same way in six and seven, I'm going to be worried.

I felt he was there, at first for plot advancement, but after this episode I think he's there to give the male perspective of women's undergarments. In the beginning it's erotic but he's already showing that he's learning there's more too it then that... I think it's someone for the male viewers to relate to and learn with.

[EmperorBrandon]

Mizuno-sensei! :beatingheart::beatingheart: Her presence this episode was quite wonderful, and enjoyed her interactions with the girls.

All the different swimsuits this episode were quite nice. A competition swimsuit fits Yako. Good thing thing they managed to get Mizuno-sensei to ditch the sukumizu though.

The onsen scene was hot and surprisingly not as much censorship as I've come to expect of these in TV series.

[Fencedude]

Kiyono obviously got bit by a vampire.

Anyway, Mizuno stole the episode, though the onsen scene was...amazing.

[Suwako Moriya]

Maybe it's just the way she acts, but Kiyono feels like she should be several grades above the other girls...

Kiyono loves to talk about using underwear as a weapon, but we all know that only Yumiko of Gendai Mahou knows the proper way to use it as a "weapon".

[Suwako Moriya]

I think I might become at least slightly more accepting of Komachi if he moves beyond the current "griping" phase that he's in. I mean seriously, it's getting rather old.:sweat:

Haruka, there must be some alternate universe out there where there's nothing preventing you from getting together with your true love.

[Herron]

Kiyono obviously got bit by a vampire.

Anyway, Mizuno stole the episode, though the onsen scene was...amazing.

That kind of freaked me out! I was like holy shit really! But... I enjoyed it. I mean I liked that the show went there.. man I seem totally perverted. :devil:

My favorite character has to be Mizuno... I relate to her too too well. :sweat:

[Classical]

Mizuno-sensei! :beatingheart::beatingheart: Her presence this episode was quite wonderful, and enjoyed her interactions with the girls.

Mizuno-sensei has taken quite a bit of criticism from Kiyono for not being more feminine, but I really like her the way she is.

All the different swimsuits this episode were quite nice. A competition swimsuit fits Yako. Good thing thing they managed to get Mizuno-sensei to ditch the sukumizu though.

I thought Yako looked really cute in hers, but I liked Kiyono's the most. Mizuno's white swimsuit was pretty nice too.

I imagine Komachi really wants to kill his brother after what happened to him. :sweat:

[The Great Bear]

Mizuno-sensei has taken quite a bit of criticism from Kiyono for not being more feminine, but I really like her the way she is.

Jealousy, pure and simple. Mizuno-sensei, while she may wear a gym outfit a lot of the time and does not dress in a sexy or provocative way for the most part, is definitely all woman, and all woman in ways that Kiyono is not.

I too like Mizuno just the way she is.

[something]

Not even going to bother to check CR for this this week, I'm sure the problem hasn't gone away.

Episode 8:

- Hah, this episode is off to a good start. Mizuno is <3
- And now for some Kiyono! I suppose it's too easy to guess that things aren't going to be the way Yako and gang are guessing. I'm not big on the flowers on her dress, but the rest of it looks fantastic no her.
- Oh man Mizuno is fantastic. Kiyono is always ragging on her though, and now she even thinks Nayu's brother finds Kiyono more appealing...
- They all look great in their swimsuits (especially Haruka and Nayu) but Kiyono, what... is that? Not feeling that swimsuit. :sd:
- SukuMizuno! Awesome!
- Holy shit, you're supposed to take it off before doing that. Those scissors might as well be beam sabers with the way they slide through that swimsuit. Also, very sharp objects should not be that close to skin! Especially not wonderful skin like that!
- Eh, the white she goes with is okay I guess but the green was totally the best. That kinda multi layer frill type bikini top is the hottest thing ever. Always my favorite.
- Haha! Oh Yako. "You lost." XD
- Yep... pube talk. :sd: And Nayu pounces on Haruka! You know Haruka loves this.
- Well that was a short onsen scene.
- Nayu's hair with the circles is very cute.
- I see Yako has a future as a modeling photographer. Or maybe filming something else. >_>
- Haha, Nayu's grandmother was even weirder than she is. Hey just give the waitress bras! Totally normal!
- Kiyono's night wear gets a thumbs up from me.
- Put the towel back on, Komachi >_>

Pretty good episode overall. Mizuno definitely owns this show.

[TheGreenMan]

In this episode we have Yako with her own boy troubles--oh FUCK THAT. Much more interesting, we have Haruka almost admit to Nayu that she loves her. But, damnit, anime rules apply, so someone has to interrupt them. And it's the teacher (who thinks that Haruka is in love with the spazboy). It looks we get some more yuri next episode. But, oh noes, Nayu and her brother might have to move?

BTW CR, 'onee-chan' means big sister, not mother.

[EmperorBrandon]

It definitely seems Haruka is deeply in love with Nayu at this point. I'm feeling rather sad for her since everyone seems oblivious to her lesbian crush (though they all know she's in love). I'm hoping that will change. If not Nayu, at least someone should catch on...

[Fencedude]

Oh wow, they're actually doing it. I'm very impressed. GANBATTE HARUKA-CHAN!

Looks like DORAMA has arrived, and next week Kiyono is VERY NOT HAPPY.

Also Kiyono with the devil wings was awesome, we need more of her like that. Actually we just need more of her in general.

[Suwako Moriya]

Ah, some pretty nice moments in the episode. Of course, we were forced to pay a "price" for it.:sweat:

[Suwako Moriya]

Kiyono obviously got bit by a vampire.

That gives me a thought. What if turned out that the real reason Kiyono was so interested in underwear as a weapon is that she's a succubus in training and plans to devour souls through pleasure? Yeah, not very likely, but.....

[Herron]

It definitely seems Haruka is deeply in love with Nayu at this point. I'm feeling rather sad for her since everyone seems oblivious to her lesbian crush (though they all know she's in love). I'm hoping that will change. If not Nayu, at least someone should catch on...

I think Kiyoko is going to find out, like she did with Komachi . I think she's already got a hint, during the festival when Nayu got lost and Haruka almost cried... and if she does find out, I wonder if she'll continue to support Komachi.

[EmperorBrandon]

I think Kiyoko is going to find out, like she did with Komachi . I think she's already got a hint, during the festival when Nayu got lost and Haruka almost cried... and if she does find out, I wonder if she'll continue to support Komachi.

I was kind of getting that feeling about Kiyono too. That might be interesting.

[Fudce]

I think Kiyoko is going to find out, like she did with Komachi . I think she's already got a hint, during the festival when Nayu got lost and Haruka almost cried... and if she does find out, I wonder if she'll continue to support Komachi.

I was kind of getting that feeling about Kiyono too. That might be interesting.

I don't know why, but I don't really get the idea that Kiyono is supporting Komachi as much as she's interested in him, but wont admit it to herself.

[Fencedude]

I don't know why, but I don't really get the idea that Kiyono is supporting Komachi as much as she's interested in him, but wont admit it to herself.

I still don't totally buy that she's into Komachi, but its not like there are many other candidates.

[Fudce]

I don't know why, but I don't really get the idea that Kiyono is supporting Komachi as much as she's interested in him, but wont admit it to herself.

I still don't totally buy that she's into Komachi, but its not like there are many other candidates.

I'm not 100% on it myself, but it's one theory out of many, and it's a niggling little thing at the back of my head.

[something]

Episode 9:

- HEH! I watched a few scenes from ef recently for various reasons, and the episodes involved had a lot of Renji. When Kouta opened his mouth and Takagi Motoki came out it sounded sooo weird. His just isn't a voice you hear often, at all.
- Anyway he's obviously they guy they're setting Yako up with. Poor Haruka, she'll be left with nothing (until they squeeze another guy into the plot for her). I was surprised at first to see Yako not shy at all undressing around him, but it seems pretty clear that she doesn't think of him as a guy.
- ...the line of singing over the title cards is always so bizarre.
- Maaaan. They are just leaving no doubt whatsoever about Haruka's feelings. And you know what? They're not going to go anywhere with it. But yay, school swimsuits! And Mizuno! <3
- I still think the "transparent fence" animation trick looks so very strange. Nayu is behind the fence but it just totally disappears around her face.
- Haha oh wow, Mizuno totally misunderstood Haruka. :sd: That's a bit of a shame. I would have been really interested in seeing how she would handle the situation if he knew the truth.
- Evil Kiyono has arrived!
- Heh. It's still amusing when she does something that totally shocks the others. Even Mizuno.
- ...Jeeze, Kouta has issues. Hours later he suddenly texts Yako an insult?
- Leave it to Kiyono to have a totally different interpretation of the Kouta incident than the others. She obviously sees herself as Kouta, thanks to the older guy she likes who doesn't see her as a girl...
- Kiyono looks really, really pretty in her kimono. Meanwhile, Haruka is trying to steal Nayu away! Kiyono seems to have an idea of what's up. I wonder what she'll do about it.
- Mizuno-sensei fantasy time!
- The masked advice man >_>
- Is Kiyono trying to get Komachi away for Haruka?
- Hah, seems not. She's just having fun teasing him. I wonder if how long we have to wait to meet this guy who causes her to act the way she does. I mean it's been a cnetral point of her character but they haven't addressed it head on yet.
- Maaaaaaaaaan. They're *still* laying it on thick. But I feel so bad for Haruka now. I understand why Nayu would have no idea but... oh Haruka. ;_;
- FFFFFFFFFF DAMN YOU MIZUNO. Haruka was about to confess. But it was ruined by the one-two anime punch of loud fireworks and someone intruding. Note to anime characters: Fireworks make telling anyone anything absolutely impossible!
- Haha, Mizuno is so damn cute.
- What? Yako didn't yell "MEN" when flicked Kouta in the forehead with the party favor? I am so disappointed. This is not true kendo spirit!!
- Nayu is missing! Haruka cries. Oh god, this show is going to break my heart regarding her, isn't it? ;_;

Oh no... Nayu is going to be moving. How evil.

That was definitely my favorite episode so far, which makes up for some less than stellar episodes recently. But oh Haruka... ;___;

So going by the ED, there are three characters left to meet, all adults in the last character group shot. I assume the man is the one Kiyono is in love with (but jeeze, he doesn't look it), and the woman on the left (the same one in the sorta abstract looking split screen image earlier in the ED) is undoubtedly the woman Kiyono is "competing against". I have no idea who the other woman is, but I assume she works at the Kyoto office Keigo is being moved to, or his current one.

[something]

I don't know why, but I don't really get the idea that Kiyono is supporting Komachi as much as she's interested in him, but wont admit it to herself.I still don't totally buy that she's into Komachi, but its not like there are many other candidates.I'm not 100% on it myself, but it's one theory out of many, and it's a niggling little thing at the back of my head.
I definitely don't think that Kiyono's issues have anything to do with Komachi. It's definitely about an older man, and the woman in the ED as her rival. However, they will likely have Komachi be the "fallback" she goes to when she realizes she's too young for the man she loves. I would actually welcome that, if only because Komachi x Nayu is so... boooring. Komachi has better chemistry with Kiyono, mostly because she can have so much fun teasing him.

...And I just want Nayu free for Haruka, even if it remains unrequited. :sd:

[Fencedude]

Uh yeah, Kiyono, you have no boobs. None. Nada. Zilch. THERE IS NO THERE THERE. Deal with it.

Anyway, the incredibly tiresome drama club aside, good episode. Kiyono is quite hot, despite her utter lack of secondary sexual characteristics.

And next time, ZOMG DORAMA

[EmperorBrandon]

That drama club doesn't seem to have much subtlety. It's all over-the-top for them. :P They had me thinking of Utena with their costumes and the one girl looking like Wakaba.

The Kiyono focus this episode was rather good. I liked the parts with the girls helping her out.

[Fudce]

Uh yeah, Kiyono, you have no boobs. None. Nada. Zilch. THERE IS NO THERE THERE. Deal with it.

Anyway, the incredibly tiresome drama club aside, good episode. Kiyono is quite hot, despite her utter lack of secondary sexual characteristics.

She has nothing, but she really works it into a pleasing overall package.

[Classical]

I can't believe that Kiyono tried the vacuum idea :sweat:, but then again, it's not too surprising given the way she feels about body image. I have to agree that she looks great the way she is, and she looked great wearing the underwear designed by the Underwear Society. Designing Kiyono's underwear really turned out great for Nayu as her society is getting more attention.

[Suwako Moriya]

Haruka, you must defeat all your enemies and obtain true love! We're rooting for you.

Sadly even as far as they've taken Haruka, I'm still fearing one of those "Just kidding" scenarios.

[something]

Episode 10:

- Yeah no more man bra scenes mmkay?
- Oh, much better. Haruka putting a bra on Kiyono! ...yeah, Kiyono, you're very pretty but you've just got limits in some areas. :sd:
- Hah, the exercises. Nayu is totally fine doing that, and I bet Haruka suddenly wishes she were flat too... Oh and, uh, crazy Utena girls.
- Ahaha, Kiyono you silly girl. I love you.
- Hmmmmmmmmmm! So the woman I was speculating about is Kiyono's mother (Minaguchi Yuuko... you can so hear the Akiko). That could throw a kink in things. Not necessarily though.
- Okay yeah, it's what I thought. She's in love with the guy who is in love with the woman. It's just that the woman is her mother, that's all.
- ;_; Awww... poor Kiyono. Don't cry. You obviously have time and genetics on your side.
- Man, Kiyono is really falling into the "it only matters if a guy likes it" trap. Clearly we don't need to worry about Haruka doing the same. :sd:
- More bra decorating.
- Heh, Yako understands how Kiyono feels...
- And it's a success. Looks like it'd be way more practical as a swimsuit that underwear... with all those bulky ribbons and such. Still, Kiyono looked really nice.
- Know what's pretty awesome about this show? The bitchy bully trio, who you'd normally expect to be a constant irritant all throughout, was virtually forgotten 95% of the time. And the show has only benefited from that.
- Utena girls are... intense.

Alright, with two very good episodes in a row (and almost no Komachi!) I feel like this show is really back into the swing of things. I don't know that that will necessarily last when plot kicks in hard, but I am very glad it handled this week like it did. It could easily have jumped into "moving angst" but instead they held it back an episode and gave us a really quite good Kiyono episode. They did remarkably little with Kiyono's crush on the guy, but I think it was better for it.

Also, Haruka... hurry up and confess your love. ;_; It's painful knowing that they're not going to go anywhere with that.

[TheGreenMan]

Oh, Haruka's face when Nayu told them. Right in the gut. She's so heartbroken. *Cries*

Who was that idiot random teacher who showed up and scolded Nayu? That was out of the blue.

[Fencedude]

Oh Haruka. I hope she at least tells Nayu. ;_;

[jlazar]

Who was that idiot random teacher who showed up and scolded Nayu? That was out of the blue.

Yeah, they really should have set that teacher up with a flashback or earlier in the series as an uptight asshole who ruined Nayu's last year at elementary school.

[EmperorBrandon]

Oh, Haruka's face when Nayu told them. Right in the gut. She's so heartbroken. *Cries*


Yeah, that look really pierced my heart and had me sad for her. Yako's reaction was, too.


Who was that idiot random teacher who showed up and scolded Nayu? That was out of the blue.

He was Nayu's teacher from elementary school who appeared briefly in a flashback in ep. 1. Back then, I was wondering why Nakamura Yuuichi had such a throwaway role (now it makes more sense, since he showed up again here to be a major ass :P ).

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TheGreenMan, you posted about ep 11 in the ep 10 subthread. Posting here as reply to root.

Episode 11:

- Utena girls again. And they want the Underwear club to be in the play?
- Haha, sorry Yako, no bunny for you. Nice to see Haruka offer!
- Oh right, the whole moving thing. Kiyono tries to get Nayu to talk about it, but no deal.
- No, Haruka! Don't let loser guy walk Nayu home! You should do it! Nayu should move in with her so she can stay here...
- Sigh, why are we wasting time with the bitch teacher? They should have gotten rid of her half a cour ago.
- And I was hoping Mizuno would at least tell her off, maybe suplex her through the window.
- Who is the douchebag? Her old teacher? Who the fuck cares about you? Stop wasting screen time. This is so stupid.
- And there he goes. Wow, that was so exceptionally pointless it almost makes Komachi look important.
- Yes Komachi, we're all glad Yako took your spot.
- ...Haruka! ;_; ;_; ;__________;

Man, there was a lot of really lame manufactured drama in this episode. Shouldn't the fact that Nayu is moving be adequate on the drama scale? Was there nothing better to spend that chunk of the episode on? It probably didn't go on nearly as long as it feels like it did (I guess it was really only a few minutes), but gah, that was awful.

!Anyway! it's time for Haruka to convince Nayu to stay. Convince her hard. She must. Having her true love just up and move away is much too sad. ;_;

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TheGreenMan, you forgot to post as a reply to root again. Your ep 12 post is in your ep 11 subthread which was in in the ep 10 subthread. :sd:

Episode 12:

- So a Haruka episode? Is this the last episode? I hope it's the last episode. Because there would be no better way to go out than with Haruka focus. Especially because it'd maybe take enough time up that they couldnt do some lame Komachi end.
- Oh wow what the hell is wrong with the video? I came back to CR for this at ep 11 because I'd heard they fixed the combing. Which they did, thuogh it seemed like they mostly just hid it by making things blurry. In this episode, it looks like they tried the same and... failed really badly. Panning is jerky, it's really blurry and has pixelated lines, and some of the combing is still coming through in placed. Ffff. Damnit, don't feel like stopping now, but wow that's annoying.
- Anyway... Haruka is not taking this well! And, uh, Mizuno's apartment burned down. o_O! Hey... maybe Mizuno and Nayu can get a place together!
- Damnit Haruka, go find Nayu and confess your love.
- Kiyono looks strangely good in her moving outfit.
- Finally Yako gets them to meet! And they go out on a boat... the perfect place to confess!
- Hahhaah, dramatic action on the boat. But they all fall into the lake in the end. And Haruka still hasn't confessed! ;_;
- Now she's leaving... DO IT, HARUKA!
- And there she goes. ;_; So sad...

And she's back! Well okay it takes a bit out of her leaving for her to come back so soon, but if it really ended with her going away for good that'd kinda suck. And we got Mizuhjo (who is looking AMAZING) stopping by to check on her so it's kinda like what I wanted to happen earlier!

And now Haruka can confess!! ...So, so disappointed we didn't see her do so, though.

Well this was certainly a unique little show, and way better than (western) fandom will ever give it credit for. It's a shame that the premise will immediately turn so many people off.

(Also, uh, what's up with the implied crossdresser? :sd:)

[TheGreenMan]

TheGreenMan, you forgot to post as a reply to root again. Your ep 12 post is in your ep 11 subthread which was in in the ep 10 subthread. :sd:



Sonofabitch. I did it again? Stupid post reply button.

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(Also, uh, what's up with the implied crossdresser? :sd:)[/QUOTE]

I found that scene highly amusing. I think he wants to go yaoi with Komachi.

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I found that scene highly amusing. I think he wants to go yaoi with Komachi.
Anything that keeps boring Komachi away from Nayu == awesome. Making it crossdressing yaoi would be even better.

[TheGreenMan]

Edit: getting this out of the 11 ep thread an onto the 12 ep thread.

Yessss. We get a Haruka centered episode. Poor Haruka, you're not taking this well.
Rowboat? Eggs? Romance!
Awwww. They made up. But you've lost your chance to confess, Haruka!
And you lost your chance, Komachi. Sucker.
It's the end!
The underwear club is now more popular than ever even without Nayu.
HA! A TRAP appears! I'd hit it.
Is it me, or does the trap have eyes for Komachi?
Wait! She's back.
Yako and Haruka DOUBLE TEAM TACKLE! Oh, man, Haruka, you're happy to see her, aren't you?
That was a great ending. Great series too.

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Sonofabitch. I did it again? Stupid post reply button.



You aren't supposed to use the Post Reply button at all.

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Oh Haruka, you're just going to pine silently for the rest of your life, aren't you?

;_;

Mizuno's apartment burning down was really random and didn't seem to end up going anywhere.

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Mizuno's apartment burning down was really random and didn't seem to end up going anywhere.
Haha, yeah, didn't end up serving any purpose at all, did it? They didn't have Nayu move in with her, they didn't have Mizuno go live with Keigo. It was brought up as a big WTF and then nothing was done with it.

I feel like they meant to, but forgot, then realized the show was over. :sd: There may be a line or two of important dialogue accidentally deleted from a script somewhere..

[TheGreenMan]

Though this isn't the last episode, it certainly plays like one with the ending sequence being a full part of the show as it details events as they play out after Nayu leaves for Kyoto.

Wait. What? There's more?

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Though this isn't the last episode, it certainly plays like one with the ending sequence being a full part of the show as it details events as they play out after Nayu leaves for Kyoto.

Wait. What? There's more?

I think Chris is confused for some reason, it's definitely 12 episodes. The DVDs/BDs are already solicited too. 4 volumes of 3 eps each. Link to official website product page (http://www.starchild.co.jp/special/chuubra/release_dvd.html), you can see "収録話数：第10話～第12話" for the last ep.

[EmperorBrandon]

I found that scene highly amusing. I think he wants to go yaoi with Komachi.
Anything that keeps boring Komachi away from Nayu == awesome. Making it crossdressing yaoi would be even better.

Hah, I was thinking of the same thing. It's kind of weird that throw a crossdressing trap for a few seconds at the end. I'm guessing it's a nod to a character from the manga that they're not going to do anything with since the show has ended.

Ok, looking at the Japanese Wikipedia, there is a description for a character that seems is probably it (since it mentions a crossdressing boy with gender identity disorder :P ): Haraguchi Amane. So, my guess may be right.

[TheGreenMan]

Site and image NSFW:

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/642864/absurdres-blonde_hair-blue_eyes-blue_hair-bow-brai

I love Haruka's expression in the background. Why isn't Nayu doing that to Haruka? She is Nayu's waifu after all.

[Suwako Moriya]

Don't give up, Kiyono. You've still got a few years ahead of you. For now accept your fate and don't worry much about it.

I just imagined a series actually focused on the drama club. Then I realized I must hate myself.

[Suwako Moriya]

Site and image NSFW:

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/642864/absurdres-blonde_hair-blue_eyes-blue_hair-bow-brai

I love Haruka's expression in the background. Why isn't Nayu doing that to Haruka? She is Nayu's waifu after all.

One of these days, Haruka is going to stop holding back and have her way with Nayu. At least that's what I'm hoping will happen sooner or later.

[Suwako Moriya]

Did we really need more "Underwear (Society) is the evil" drama?

Haruka, you must not let true love escape!

[Suwako Moriya]

So they decided to burn down Mizuno's apartment just for the heck of it?

Well, for the most part it ended decently.

Except there was no confession, darn it.

[ilmaestro]

I think someone thought they had to add random "story" bits to this for some reason. Not sure what was up with the burnt down apartment, or having no time at all between nayu leaving and coming back. Show was relly much better than it deserved to be though, really funny and generally well made.

[pianocello]

I sort of enjoyed this and found this educational. However I can't help thinking that it would have been better if not for a few issues.

The show has too much angst. The characters seem to take turns with each episode spotlighting a different character having angst. The b*tch trio was completely unnecessary. I don't dislike Komachi as much as some of you but I don't like male characters that freak out at the slightest hint of female nudity and there were too many scenes of him freaking out. I'll give him credit though for trying to improve his character. Why can't all male character be more like Keigo.

I did think that the show improved when Mizuno and Kiyono started to play a more important role in the story. And then there's yuri - you can't go wrong with yuri. The cunnilingus scene between Nayu and Haruka was so wrong and yet so right. :sweat: