Anime Draft 2010- signups have ended

[dunno001]

Okay, that time of year is here again- time for the anime draft! Signups will be open from 6 PM EST on January 2nd, 2010 to 6 PM EST on January 9th 2010, with the AoD clock being the official timekeeper. (In the event of the official timekeeper being borked, I'll use my local clock, erring on the side of extra time.)

If you have any questions, you may feel free to check the Anime Draft homepage (http://dunno001.spoonybards.net/aod), or ask here in this thread. Many people have been playing for years, and can probably answer a question not in the rules. (Or, in theory, one in them, too.) Please note, though, that I will highlight the main rule changes (all of which are also in the rules page):

-Proxies for round 1 WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED.
-The game will last for 12 rounds, not 10.
-There is no limit on the number of characters that will be allowed from a series, though each player is still limited to 1.
-And, as I mentioned before, if I get more people interested in playing this year than last (28), then I will invoke the clause of allowing more players, increasing it to 25.

Good luck to all, may we have another memorable draft, and it be bigger than ever!

[dunno001]

Well, I'm 35 minutes into the period, and I have but a mere 12 people signed up, meaning your favorite character is more likely than not to be availiable! I'll be keeping the signups open through the time in the root post. However, we seem to have a nice variety, with only 1 series having 2 characters from it thus far. What it is, I can't say (or rather, I won't), but things are going well! Feel free to join in the madness! ^_^

...now I'm off to lock last year's thread.

[bci110]

And I was probably the first entrant that didn't get his/her first choice, but as I said on the old thread, my second choice was a character I've been trying to get for the last 3 years so I'm pretty excited to build my team.

[dunno001]

And I was probably the first entrant that didn't get his/her first choice, but as I said on the old thread, my second choice was a character I've been trying to get for the last 3 years so I'm pretty excited to build my team.

*pulls up listings* Nope, 3rd. And one of the ones before you got their 3rd pick.

[ilmaestro]

And I was probably the first entrant that didn't get his/her first choice, but as I said on the old thread, my second choice was a character I've been trying to get for the last 3 years so I'm pretty excited to build my team.

*pulls up listings* Nope, 3rd. And one of the ones before you got their 3rd pick.
I'm somewhat amazed by those stats, I have to admit. How did 12 people conspire to only pick 9 unique characters?

[Fencedude]

And I was probably the first entrant that didn't get his/her first choice, but as I said on the old thread, my second choice was a character I've been trying to get for the last 3 years so I'm pretty excited to build my team.

*pulls up listings* Nope, 3rd. And one of the ones before you got their 3rd pick.
I'm somewhat amazed by those stats, I have to admit. How did 12 people conspire to only pick 9 unique characters?

I'm shocked that my first choice wasn't taken.

SRSLY Guys.

[ibby]

Mangaed to get my second pick, though thought that she would of been taken.

[Fudce]

It should be a fun draft this year. In case anyone forgot, the Big Board can be found here (http://fudce.freehostia.com/drafts/), even though it's currently empty.

I'll go into more detail about it at a later date.

[ape2020]

And so it begins...

Team Poster. (http://www.box.net/shared/static/3hp8bz0r4i.jpg)

-ape2020

[Fencedude]

It should be a fun draft this year. In case anyone forgot, the Big Board can be found here (http://fudce.freehostia.com/drafts/), even though it's currently empty.

I'll go into more detail about it at a later date.

Fudce, far right character in the banner, Shihou Elis?

[Fudce]

It should be a fun draft this year. In case anyone forgot, the Big Board can be found here (http://fudce.freehostia.com/drafts/), even though it's currently empty.

I'll go into more detail about it at a later date.

Fudce, far right character in the banner, Shihou Elis?

Nope, the five characters in the banner are relevant for something however, and there's good reason why I blanked them out.

Also - the character I picked is one of the five.

[Betenoire]

It should be a fun draft this year. In case anyone forgot, the Big Board can be found here (http://fudce.freehostia.com/drafts/), even though it's currently empty.

I'll go into more detail about it at a later date.

Fudce, far right character in the banner, Shihou Elis?

Nope, the five characters in the banner are relevant for something however, and there's good reason why I blanked them out.

Also - the character I picked is one of the five.

Is it the far right one...and I think I know who it is, but I won't name them now.

[Fudce]

It should be a fun draft this year. In case anyone forgot, the Big Board can be found here (http://fudce.freehostia.com/drafts/), even though it's currently empty.

I'll go into more detail about it at a later date.

Fudce, far right character in the banner, Shihou Elis?

Nope, the five characters in the banner are relevant for something however, and there's good reason why I blanked them out.

Also - the character I picked is one of the five.

Is it the far right one...and I think I know who it is, but I won't name them now.
Yeah, if anyone wants to know who they are, or have guesses, PM me and don't post them. I'd expect all five to be gone already but it's good etiquite not to post any anime characters names in any draft thread until they're taken.

[Buster Blader 126]

(From the past thread)
Fudce: Sorry, I forgot about the implications of that.

[Westlo]

I'm ready to rumble.

[Konoha]

First time player here, hope I get in ^^; If so, I look forward to playing with you all! Good luck!

[michaelthesecond]

Is there a FAQ for new players about this draft? It sounds fun, but I don't understand how it works... Can't find an explanation anywhere!

[Nosredna]

Is there a FAQ for new players about this draft? It sounds fun, but I don't understand how it works... Can't find an explanation anywhere!

Does this help (http://dunno001.spoonybards.net/aod/rules.html)?

[Buckeye]

However, we seem to have a nice variety, with only 1 series having 2 characters from it thus far.
I gotta feeling that I know which series that is and it would be the one my character is from. Why do I think so, I will save that for another day.

[Fudce]

Basic "for those who don't want to read the full guidelines" guide:

1. PM a list of characters you want in round one to dunno001.
2. dunno001 will tell you which one of your characters you got.
3. After a week, if more than twenty people, there's a series of polls to decide who gets in.

The basic idea is to form a team of twelve anime characters, who will compete in each of twelve popularity contests. The first round picks face off against each other, as do the second round picks, etc... The better a character does, the more points you score.

[dunno001]

Just as a minor annoying update, there is an issue currently going on with the webhost for the rules, this is being looked into as I type this. I'm hoping it will be back up later today, but it may take a bit. In the meanwhile, any questions should be posted here for someone to answer.

[ibby]

Basic "for those who don't want to read the full guidelines" guide:

1. PM a list of characters you want in round one to dunno001.
2. dunno001 will tell you which one of your characters you got.
3. After a week, if more than twenty people, there's a series of polls to decide who gets in.

The basic idea is to form a team of twelve anime characters, who will compete in each of twelve popularity contests. The first round picks face off against each other, as do the second round picks, etc... The better a character does, the more points you score.

Not being picky, you forgot to mention that dunno reservers the right to expand or not the playing list to beyond 20 players, if more than 20 people/players decided to enter the draft. I to wouldn't mind reading the draft rules again due to missing out in last year's draft.

[Fudce]

Basic "for those who don't want to read the full guidelines" guide:

1. PM a list of characters you want in round one to dunno001.
2. dunno001 will tell you which one of your characters you got.
3. After a week, if more than twenty people, there's a series of polls to decide who gets in.

The basic idea is to form a team of twelve anime characters, who will compete in each of twelve popularity contests. The first round picks face off against each other, as do the second round picks, etc... The better a character does, the more points you score.

Not being picky, you forgot to mention that dunno reservers the right to expand or not the playing list to beyond 20 players, if more than 20 people/players decided to enter the draft. I to wouldn't mind reading the draft rules again due to missing out in last year's draft.

Yes you are being picky, but you're right... ;)

I was just going for the basic "20 people" rules. Just change the number if it's more than 20.

[Azumangaman]

I failed!
I for some reason I thought the signups started today.
That's obviously not the case!
I sent in a list of 12, hopefully ones available.
Looking forward to what I believe is my 4th Anime Draft!

[Victor Lewandowski]

I failed!
I for some reason I thought the signups started today.
That's obviously not the case!


It's been a bit too quiet in here the past couple of days. :sweat:

Where are we at for signups right now, with just under three days to go?

[Fudce]

I've been far from quiet really. I've just not been posting in this thread. :)

I have a lovely list next to my computer, and every time I think of another character who fits the theme, I write them down.

[ilmaestro]

My list currently has about four names on it, three of which will almost certainly be taken before I can get to them, so I think I need to be a bit more imaginative.

[Fudce]

Mine has thirty-four names from twenty-five series. I have no idea who I want to be honest, but ideally it'll be people from that list.

[bci110]

Juggling between the college bowl games, the new winter anime season, and that psychologically brilliant high-school soap opera known as School Days, I haven't even wrote down my list of characters yet. I'll have to work on it this weekend :sweat:.

[dunno001]

I failed!
Looking forward to what I believe is my 4th Anime Draft!

Thanks for making me realize how long I've been doing this. I'll confirm 4th year; you're not in my 2006 file...

As for other people's comments, yes, it's been far too quiet, even on my end. I've confirmed 2 more entrants this evening, bringing the total number I have to 19. Unless there's a rash of entrants at the last minute, it'll probably be capped at 20 again. (And a hint to you last-minuters: there is NOT a time extension if your entire list is picked! Though numbers 18 and 19 did get their first pick, I've set a record with someone else on getting their 6th pick!)

[Azumangaman]

I still can't believe I got my number 1 pick.
It must be a lie!


...Wait, there are themes?
:P

[Fudce]

...Wait, there are themes?
:P

Only if you want themes. I do it since it adds a bit of interest and fun rather than just going for glory.

[ape2020]

Okay now a word from my potential team captian...

NSFW (or my image :noodle:)

My name is none of your damn business right now, but I'm putting together a special team, and I need me eleven bitches, eleven crazy-ass psycho hoes. Now, y'all might've heard rumors about the Anime Draft 2010 happening soon. Well, we'll be leaving a little earlier. We're gonna be dropped into AOD proper, dressed as normal babes. And once we're in enemy territory, as a bushwhackin' guerrilla army, we're gonna be doin' one thing and one thing only... killin' Otaku, and takin their votes. Now, I don't know about y'all, but I sure as hell didn't come down from the goddamn pirate infested coast, cross thousand miles of water, register my way through half of Mania.com and login out of a fuckin' air-o-plane to teach these ecchi lovin, cosplaying dressin, yuri lusting fanboys lessons in humanity. Otaku ain't got no humanity. They're the foot soldiers of a deodorant-hatin', mass moe dreaming movement and they need to be dee-stroyed. That's why any and every son of a bitch we find sportin a kawaii avatar, they're gonna die…


All this for the love of cookies.


-ape2020

[Jimmie M]

Okay now a word from my potential team captian...

NSFW (or my image :noodle:)

My name is none of your damn business right now, but I'm putting together a special team, and I need me eleven bitches, eleven crazy-ass psycho hoes. Now, y'all might've heard rumors about the Anime Draft 2010 happening soon. Well, we'll be leaving a little earlier. We're gonna be dropped into AOD proper, dressed as normal babes. And once we're in enemy territory, as a bushwhackin' guerrilla army, we're gonna be doin' one thing and one thing only... killin' Otaku, and takin their votes. Now, I don't know about y'all, but I sure as hell didn't come down from the goddamn pirate infested coast, cross thousand miles of water, register my way through half of Mania.com and login out of a fuckin' air-o-plane to teach these ecchi lovin, cosplaying dressin, yuri lusting fanboys lessons in humanity. Otaku ain't got no humanity. They're the foot soldiers of a deodorant-hatin', mass moe dreaming movement and they need to be dee-stroyed. That's why any and every son of a bitch we find sportin a kawaii avatar, they're gonna die…


All this for the love of cookies.


-ape2020

LOL! :sdsmiley: I can't wait to see your team take shape! :)
This also reminds me that I need to look at which hentai character I'll go with this year should I get in (Which may end up being more than one this time ;)).

[ibby]

Posting to create some discussion before all is revealed (who got which character). I'm sort of made a list should I make it to that stage, and the list is about twenty chatacters long so far. At the moment, I'm chopping and changing the order of character(s) I potentially want of my list, which is interesting because it tests me of how much I like/love/want/don't want/hate that particular character. I thinking of creating a team name if I should get through that stage or not. Is there going to be a animedraft reporter this year like previous animedrafts? And is there going to be an story(s) of what each team will be doing/might if the anime characters were in the same room as one another from each team?

[Spirit Of The Stage]

Okay now a word from my potential team captian...

NSFW (or my image :noodle:)

My name is none of your damn business right now, but I'm putting together a special team, and I need me eleven bitches, eleven crazy-ass psycho hoes. Now, y'all might've heard rumors about the Anime Draft 2010 happening soon. Well, we'll be leaving a little earlier. We're gonna be dropped into AOD proper, dressed as normal babes. And once we're in enemy territory, as a bushwhackin' guerrilla army, we're gonna be doin' one thing and one thing only... killin' Otaku, and takin their votes. Now, I don't know about y'all, but I sure as hell didn't come down from the goddamn pirate infested coast, cross thousand miles of water, register my way through half of Mania.com and login out of a fuckin' air-o-plane to teach these ecchi lovin, cosplaying dressin, yuri lusting fanboys lessons in humanity. Otaku ain't got no humanity. They're the foot soldiers of a deodorant-hatin', mass moe dreaming movement and they need to be dee-stroyed. That's why any and every son of a bitch we find sportin a kawaii avatar, they're gonna die…


All this for the love of cookies.


-ape2020

LOL! :sdsmiley: I can't wait to see your team take shape! :)
This also reminds me that I need to look at which hentai character I'll go with this year should I get in (Which may end up being more than one this time ;)).

Three rules of thumb;

1) Ape's team will be awesome.
2) Jimmie's hentai character this year will be...

And of course...for the third year running I've done this joke...

3) For not drafting a YUA character as your lead, WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL JIMMIE M? :P

As for themes, I'm definitely not going for the win this year - whilst I had a theme idea last year it was still a popular team but this year, I've had to wrack my brains for characters that fits a very specific theme (and Fudce knows this as he's been helping me, fortunately very few of our lists actually are on both our lists, I think it was just 2 last time I remember) so my list which is at 30 characters ATM could whittle down very fast. However, that's part of the fun as I will have to improvise with a much shorter pool this year (although this year I can use male and female characters so that helps a bit more).

Of course, I'll still do my fanfic stuff with permission if anyone wants to be included (my Midland rival of course will be my buttmonkey...no wait, that's me...) and if you remember last year, I suffered from a curse? Well - if I get in considering who my 1st character is, I've actually got an ingenious way to cure it...^^

[ibby]

[QUOTE=Jimmie M;1705338][QUOTE=ape2020;1705329]

Of course, I'll still do my fanfic stuff with permission if anyone wants to be included (my Midland rival of course will be my buttmonkey...no wait, that's me...) and if you remember last year, I suffered from a curse? Well - if I get in considering who my 1st character is, I've actually got an ingenious way to cure it...^^

*grabs pen and writes my team name in invisable ink (if I make that far) on fanfic to do list*

[ibby]

I've been far from quiet really. I've just not been posting in this thread. :)

I have a lovely list next to my computer, and every time I think of another character who fits the theme, I write them down.

Looking foward to see and guess what your theme is.

[ibby]

Okay now a word from my potential team captian...

NSFW (or my image :noodle:)

My name is none of your damn business right now, but I'm putting together a special team, and I need me eleven bitches, eleven crazy-ass psycho hoes. Now, y'all might've heard rumors about the Anime Draft 2010 happening soon. Well, we'll be leaving a little earlier. We're gonna be dropped into AOD proper, dressed as normal babes. And once we're in enemy territory, as a bushwhackin' guerrilla army, we're gonna be doin' one thing and one thing only... killin' Otaku, and takin their votes. Now, I don't know about y'all, but I sure as hell didn't come down from the goddamn pirate infested coast, cross thousand miles of water, register my way through half of Mania.com and login out of a fuckin' air-o-plane to teach these ecchi lovin, cosplaying dressin, yuri lusting fanboys lessons in humanity. Otaku ain't got no humanity. They're the foot soldiers of a deodorant-hatin', mass moe dreaming movement and they need to be dee-stroyed. That's why any and every son of a bitch we find sportin a kawaii avatar, they're gonna die…


All this for the love of cookies.


-ape2020

*comes out of the shadows with cape flapping in the wind, and lights a cigarette* and mutters "Not on my watch".

[Buckeye]

As I have said earlier, I will give you a hint as to who my character is. Due to an unfortunate sequence of events, she ended up going undrafted last time. So what that means is that my character is not one of the 200 selected during the last time out, and you need think about why somebody who went undrafted could have been, but something prevented that from happening.

[Fudce]

(my Midland rival of course will be my buttmonkey...no wait, that's me...)

Ooooh, starting the trash talking early are you matey... You've got yourself a new challenger appearing here. Ready, Fight!

*gets hit with a Perfect*

Ouch. OK, I suck at beat-em-ups, but I'll beat you up in the draft.

[Spirit Of The Stage]

(my Midland rival of course will be my buttmonkey...no wait, that's me...)

Ooooh, starting the trash talking early are you matey... You've got yourself a new challenger appearing here. Ready, Fight!

*gets hit with a Perfect*

Ouch. OK, I suck at beat-em-ups, but I'll beat you up in the draft.

*Russian accent* I AM THE RED...ER WELL BLUE AND WHITE...CYCLONE! ^^

[Suwako Moriya]

After some hesitation, I finally put together a list and sent it. I'm happy to say that I managed to get my first choice.

[Jimmie M]

Three rules of thumb;

1) Ape's team will be awesome.
2) Jimmie's hentai character this year will be...

And of course...for the third year running I've done this joke...

3) For not drafting a YUA character as your lead, WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL JIMMIE M? :P
:sdsmiley:
You know it's coming though-Just not in the first round. ;) As for my hentai character, right now I have one who on my list for last year's draft under consideration with a possible second to come but we'll see once I get in.

Of course, I'll still do my fanfic stuff with permission if anyone wants to be included (my Midland rival of course will be my buttmonkey...no wait, that's me...) and if you remember last year, I suffered from a curse? Well - if I get in considering who my 1st character is, I've actually got an ingenious way to cure it...^^

Please feel free to use my characters. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with. :)

[Buster Blader 126]

As with last year, I will be sticking with my usual practices - which would be to pick some immediate favourites, as well as whoever else that is a favourite that comes into mind. I actually only have 2-3 characters on deck in most cases to draft with by the time it's my turn to do so, though that interim list might be a little longer this year.

I was able to draft some of my favourite characters last year that I missed the year prior (Mizuho is :beatingheart:), but some still slipped through my fingers, so hopefully I'll be able to draft them at some point.

[ilmaestro]

lol, how are three out of the 20-ish people involved in the thread even from the UK, never mind all from the West Midlands.

[Fudce]

lol, how are three out of the 20-ish people involved in the thread even from the UK, never mind all from the West Midlands.

Because brummies are the best?

Well, it's better than Manchester at least... :P

[Azumangaman]

lol, how are three out of the 20-ish people involved in the thread even from the UK, never mind all from the West Midlands.

Because brummies are the best?

Well, it's better than Manchester at least... :P

Well, I'm applying to UK Universities next year, so then there can be even MORE UK people in the 2011 Draft!

[Suwako Moriya]

lol, how are three out of the 20-ish people involved in the thread even from the UK, never mind all from the West Midlands.Because brummies are the best?

And here I thought it was because you guys wanted to form your own trio.:sweat:

[Spirit Of The Stage]

lol, how are three out of the 20-ish people involved in the thread even from the UK, never mind all from the West Midlands.

Because brummies are the best?

Well, it's better than Manchester at least... :P

Well, I'm applying to UK Universities next year, so then there can be even MORE UK people in the 2011 Draft!

Make it Aston, Birmingham, Central England or Wolverhampton and the square is complete. :P

[Spirit Of The Stage]

lol, how are three out of the 20-ish people involved in the thread even from the UK, never mind all from the West Midlands.Because brummies are the best?

And here I thought it was because you guys wanted to form your own trio.:sweat:

Yeah, but Fudce and I already got the boke/tsukkomi part down...hmm, maybe a Bonkuras unit might suffice instead...

If it's a square though with Azumangaman, one has to play Yomi...dibs. :)

[Victor Lewandowski]

As with last year, I will be sticking with my usual practices - which would be to pick some immediate favourites, as well as whoever else that is a favourite that comes into mind. I actually only have 2-3 characters on deck in most cases to draft with by the time it's my turn to do so, though that interim list might be a little longer this year.


I have a few more people in mind early, but much of my draft will be who I like at the time I make my picks. I already made sure that one found a new home this year, so it will be interesting to see what I come up with for a story this year. :devil:

[Fudce]

lol, how are three out of the 20-ish people involved in the thread even from the UK, never mind all from the West Midlands.

Because brummies are the best?

Well, it's better than Manchester at least... :P

Well, I'm applying to UK Universities next year, so then there can be even MORE UK people in the 2011 Draft!

Make it Aston, Birmingham, Central England or Wolverhampton and the square is complete. :P

Coventry and Warick aren't a million miles away either.

[ilmaestro]

You're not suggesting we send him to Coventry, are you?

[Spirit Of The Stage]

You're not suggesting we send him to Coventry, are you?

Well, if he gets in by 2011, it's basically a doorstep to Warwick for Ayacon...and hey, Coventry's not all bad. (Basically, it's where I get all my cosplay stuff...which snow permitting, I'm going this weekend...)

[Azumangaman]

Well, the main ones are in Warwick, Manchester, and London (but Kings is probably too elite for me). Birmingham is a definite possibility as is Glasgow (which is obviously not in England).

So there is a (slim) chance the SQUARE WILL BE COMPLETED.

P.S. Warwick is my #1 right now, and if anybodys seen it/been to it/know anything about it, I'd love a PM :)

[ilmaestro]

You're not suggesting we send him to Coventry, are you?

Well, if he gets in by 2011, it's basically a doorstep to Warwick for Ayacon...and hey, Coventry's not all bad. (Basically, it's where I get all my cosplay stuff...which snow permitting, I'm going this weekend...)
Ah, I was going for the jokey play on the phrase "send to Coventry".

Glasgow (which is obviously not in England)
You say "obviously", but I would not like to guess at how many of your fellow North Americans wouldn't actually know this. :P

[Azumangaman]

Glasgow (which is obviously not in England)
You say "obviously", but I would not like to guess at how many of your fellow Americans wouldn't actually know this. :P
Well, considering I live in Canada, I don't have any fellow Americans! :P

[ilmaestro]

Glasgow (which is obviously not in England)
You say "obviously", but I would not like to guess at how many of your fellow Americans wouldn't actually know this. :P
Well, considering I live in Canada, I don't have any fellow Americans! :P
Hah, sorry, I assumed you were from Minnesota, despite what it says by your name under "location". Stealth edit now applied to original post!

[Fudce]

P.S. Warwick is my #1 right now, and if anybodys seen it/been to it/know anything about it, I'd love a PM :)

Warwick looks to be a nice place. We were there for Ayacon last year (one of the two alternating "big con's" in England) and they had some really nice looking facilities. Obviously we were primarily in the Art's Centre, but it looked good.

[Azumangaman]

P.S. Warwick is my #1 right now, and if anybodys seen it/been to it/know anything about it, I'd love a PM :)

Warwick looks to be a nice place. We were there for Ayacon last year (one of the two alternating "big con's" in England) and they had some really nice looking facilities. Obviously we were primarily in the Art's Centre, but it looked good.

That sounds great! I'm applying for Film Studies, so I'd imagine I'd be in those facilities a lot...

[Betenoire]

You're not suggesting we send him to Coventry, are you?

Well, if he gets in by 2011, it's basically a doorstep to Warwick for Ayacon...and hey, Coventry's not all bad. (Basically, it's where I get all my cosplay stuff...which snow permitting, I'm going this weekend...)

I bought a sleep aid from a chemist there once. And have photos from my climb up the Coventry Cathedral (St. Michael's) and have a souvenir from Warwick castle-both were nice to visit.

[Betenoire]

You say "obviously", but I would not like to guess at how many of your fellow North Americans wouldn't actually know this. :P

At least this one. :P

It isn't like it isn't a famous city after all.

[Victor Lewandowski]

Less than 7 hours until signups are closed at 6 PM EST tonight.

I hope we have enough for fast polls so some people are not starting the second round with one foot in the hole.:sweat:

[Fudce]

By my count the seven days are finished and signups are closed.

[Victor Lewandowski]

By my count the seven days are finished and signups are closed.

They are. Now we just wait for dunno001 to show up before we move on. :relief:

[dunno001]

Hah! And as has been stated, time is up. Now, the question remains- do I want to be an ass or not? I'm leaning toward no, but I lost track of time watching Super GALS! As we're also getting ready to go get dinner, I'm going to eat, and then come back with the post that makes my decision final.

For those asking, there were 21 entrants.

[Fudce]

Hah! And as has been stated, time is up. Now, the question remains- do I want to be an ass or not? I'm leaning toward no, but I lost track of time watching Super GALS! As we're also getting ready to go get dinner, I'm going to eat, and then come back with the post that makes my decision final.

For those asking, there were 21 entrants.

There are three options in my opinion.

1. Allow in all 21 entrants, and proceed as if we had 20 entrants.
2. Follow the letter of the rules with fast polls to decide the 20 participants.
3. Allow only 20 participants, but only have one poll as if we only had 20 entrants. The person who gets the fewest votes is eliminated as if they would in the fast polls.

My prefered would be option one, but option three sounds decent too. Fast polls with only 21 just feels weird.

[Suwako Moriya]

1. Allow in all 21 entrants, and proceed as if we had 20 entrants.

I like this option the best out of the three you mentioned.

[Victor Lewandowski]

Hah! And as has been stated, time is up. Now, the question remains- do I want to be an ass or not? I'm leaning toward no, but I lost track of time watching Super GALS! As we're also getting ready to go get dinner, I'm going to eat, and then come back with the post that makes my decision final.

For those asking, there were 21 entrants.

There are three options in my opinion.

1. Allow in all 21 entrants, and proceed as if we had 20 entrants.
2. Follow the letter of the rules with fast polls to decide the 20 participants.
3. Allow only 20 participants, but only have one poll as if we only had 20 entrants. The person who gets the fewest votes is eliminated as if they would in the fast polls.

My prefered would be option one, but option three sounds decent too. Fast polls with only 21 just feels weird.

I would go with option 2 just so some teams are not starting the draft with a chip on their shoulder going into the second round. The drafting would start a day sooner this way too. :)

[Fencedude]

Hah! And as has been stated, time is up. Now, the question remains- do I want to be an ass or not? I'm leaning toward no, but I lost track of time watching Super GALS! As we're also getting ready to go get dinner, I'm going to eat, and then come back with the post that makes my decision final.

For those asking, there were 21 entrants.

There are three options in my opinion.

1. Allow in all 21 entrants, and proceed as if we had 20 entrants.
2. Follow the letter of the rules with fast polls to decide the 20 participants.
3. Allow only 20 participants, but only have one poll as if we only had 20 entrants. The person who gets the fewest votes is eliminated as if they would in the fast polls.

My prefered would be option one, but option three sounds decent too. Fast polls with only 21 just feels weird.

I agree with Fudce. There's no reason to eliminate just one contestant.

[Betenoire]

1. Allow in all 21 entrants, and proceed as if we had 20 entrants.

I like this option the best out of the three you mentioned.

While only a voter and not a participant I like this as well.

[Fencedude]

I would go with option 2 just so some teams are not starting the draft with a chip on their shoulder going into the second round. The drafting would start a day sooner this way too. :)

How in the world would Option 2 KEEP anyone from getting pissed off and let the draft start sooner?

[Fudce]

I would go with option 2 just so some teams are not starting the draft with a chip on their shoulder going into the second round. The drafting would start a day sooner this way too. :)

How in the world would Option 2 KEEP anyone from getting pissed off and let the draft start sooner?

The three fast-polls combined would make 6 days, whilst full round voting lasts 7 days.

[Victor Lewandowski]

I would go with option 2 just so some teams are not starting the draft with a chip on their shoulder going into the second round. The drafting would start a day sooner this way too. :)

How in the world would Option 2 KEEP anyone from getting pissed off and let the draft start sooner?

Each fast poll lasts only 48 hours, so all three fast polls would be done in about six days. The option which everyone seems to be gravitating to (1) would have a poll for seven days and would be scored as your first round voting results, meaning the top players already will have a point advantage for the later rounds. :sweat:

[Suwako Moriya]

The three fast-polls combined would make 6 days, whilst full round voting lasts 7 days.

Speaking only in terms of the time difference and nothing else, I think a single extra day isn't so bad. Now if it was like a week difference....

[Fudce]

Hah! And as has been stated, time is up. Now, the question remains- do I want to be an ass or not? I'm leaning toward no, but I lost track of time watching Super GALS! As we're also getting ready to go get dinner, I'm going to eat, and then come back with the post that makes my decision final.

For those asking, there were 21 entrants.

There are three options in my opinion.

1. Allow in all 21 entrants, and proceed as if we had 20 entrants.
2. Follow the letter of the rules with fast polls to decide the 20 participants.
3. Allow only 20 participants, but only have one poll as if we only had 20 entrants. The person who gets the fewest votes is eliminated as if they would in the fast polls.

My prefered would be option one, but option three sounds decent too. Fast polls with only 21 just feels weird.

I agree with Fudce. There's no reason to eliminate just one contestant.

Interestingly I've been thinking over the rules, and the rules actually allow for option one and remaining within the letter of the rules.

[Jimmie M]

I would go with option 2 just so some teams are not starting the draft with a chip on their shoulder going into the second round. The drafting would start a day sooner this way too. :)

How in the world would Option 2 KEEP anyone from getting pissed off and let the draft start sooner?

Since there's only 1 more than the original limit of 20 Option 2 seems a waste of time to me. Also, do any of our entrants actually have a chip on their shoulder? I certainly don't. ;)

BTW, good to see you back in the fray, Fence. :)

[Fudce]

do any of our entrants actually have a chip on their shoulder?

Only when I get epic fail when eating my Fish & Chips on a Friday...

[Fencedude]

Each fast poll lasts only 48 hours, so all three fast polls would be done in about six days. The option which everyone seems to be gravitating to (1) would have a poll for seven days and would be scored as your first round voting results, meaning the top players already will have a point advantage for the later rounds. :sweat:

Maybe I'm just not quite grasping a rule intricacy here, but wouldn't skipping the fast polls speed things up?

[Fudce]

Each fast poll lasts only 48 hours, so all three fast polls would be done in about six days. The option which everyone seems to be gravitating to (1) would have a poll for seven days and would be scored as your first round voting results, meaning the top players already will have a point advantage for the later rounds. :sweat:

Maybe I'm just not quite grasping a rule intricacy here, but wouldn't skipping the fast polls speed things up?

There will be a vote either way. If there aren't fast polls, a vote is done to decide the order of things.

The vote in this instance will be the official "scoring" poll for round one and lasts seven days.

[Victor Lewandowski]

Each fast poll lasts only 48 hours, so all three fast polls would be done in about six days. The option which everyone seems to be gravitating to (1) would have a poll for seven days and would be scored as your first round voting results, meaning the top players already will have a point advantage for the later rounds. :sweat:

Maybe I'm just not quite grasping a rule intricacy here, but wouldn't skipping the fast polls speed things up?

It would help much later in the draft during the voting phase (one round of voting will have been completed), but not in the immediate time frame.:sweat:

[Buckeye]

Well, there is that thing in the rules saying that if in the final polls there is a tie for the final spot, everybody involved in the tie gets in, and no need to go into things like head-to-head record, strength of schedule, etc. I think having elimination polls the way it is usually done is out of the question.

[ilmaestro]

I haven't exactly gone through the rules with a fine tooth comb, but logically it doesn't make any sense that proceeding with 21 under the same structure you would have used for 20 causes any problems, or that it increases time taken apart from the extra time the 21st person takes to make their draft selections.

[dunno001]

Hah! And as has been stated, time is up. Now, the question remains- do I want to be an ass or not? I'm leaning toward no, but I lost track of time watching Super GALS! As we're also getting ready to go get dinner, I'm going to eat, and then come back with the post that makes my decision final.

For those asking, there were 21 entrants.

There are three options in my opinion.

1. Allow in all 21 entrants, and proceed as if we had 20 entrants.
2. Follow the letter of the rules with fast polls to decide the 20 participants.
3. Allow only 20 participants, but only have one poll as if we only had 20 entrants. The person who gets the fewest votes is eliminated as if they would in the fast polls.

My prefered would be option one, but option three sounds decent too. Fast polls with only 21 just feels weird.

I agree with Fudce. There's no reason to eliminate just one contestant.

Interestingly I've been thinking over the rules, and the rules actually allow for option one and remaining within the letter of the rules.

And thus why I've worded the rules as I did. Give me a bit, as I'm getting the thread up after this post and another aside are dealt with.

[Suwako Moriya]

There is no limit on the number of characters that will be allowed from a series, though each player is still limited to 1.

Late question, but I just had a thought and I'll use the Final Fantasy series of games as example. That way I won't influence or give anything away. In any case here goes.

Say for example I drafted Rydia from Final Fantasy 4 and then later decided to draft Yuffie from Final Fantasy 7. Would that be denied on the basis that both are Final Fantasy games? Or would it be allowed on the basis that the two games are separate from each other.

On another note, let's pretend for the sake of argument that the various incarnations of Cid are alternate universe versions of each other. These alternate universe versions are quite different from each other.

Ie the Cid in Final Fantasy Tactics and the Cid in Final Fantasy 6 are quite different from each other. So the question is this. Would be the fact they're different allow both to be drafted. Or would it be like "One version of Cid is enough, no other version is allowed."?

Of course the complication with games in the same series is that sometimes it's debatable as to how connected vs separate they actually are. Even more so if cross over games start coming out. Also, it doesn't help that some series can have several games in there. I mean we're getting a Final Fantasy 13 soon and that's just numbered ones.

Note if it's ok to use anime examples and you'd prefer it then I suppose I can, but I wanted to be careful. And yes, I did have a certain anime series in mind when thinking about this.

Also, for the record if there is ever a console RPG draft I'd clearly be the first to try and draft Tatyana Lasaeiv. I just had to say that.

[Betenoire]

My question would be if someone were to draft someone from FF X, could they not draft someone from X-2 which is a sequel but intros new characters with some returning ones.

[Fencedude]

My question would be if someone were to draft someone from FF X, could they not draft someone from X-2 which is a sequel but intros new characters with some returning ones.

Well, here's what I think.

I drafted Fate Testarossa, I do not think that drafting say, Subaru Nakajima (who first showed up in the third series) would be allowed.

However, if I were to draft say, Amuro Ray (from Mobile Suit Gundam), there shouldn't be a problem with me later drafting Ribbons Almark, from Gundam 00, since they are completely separate series in every sense that really matters.

[Betenoire]

My question would be if someone were to draft someone from FF X, could they not draft someone from X-2 which is a sequel but intros new characters with some returning ones.

Well, here's what I think.

I drafted Fate Testarossa, I do not think that drafting say, Subaru Nakajima (who first showed up in the third series) would be allowed.

However, if I were to draft say, Amuro Ray (from Mobile Suit Gundam), there shouldn't be a problem with me later drafting Ribbons Almark, from Gundam 00, since they are completely separate series in every sense that really matters.

My question was more the first, as I agree the second wouldn't fit.

[Fudce]

I get what you're asking...

I'll use Sakura as my example, since she's already been drafted.

Sakura counts as a character from Cardcaptor Sakura, but she is also an alternate universe version of the Sakura from Tsubasa... So therefor she counts as a pick from that Universe too.

I must also remind people NOT TO MENTION CHARACTERS THAT ARE NOT DRAFTED.

The topic of multiple Cid's is a strange one. Would you consider each game to be their own universe? Each Cid is unique, and I'd call each game unique too, except X and X-2 etc...

[Fudce]

However, if I were to draft say, Character A (from Mobile Suit Gundam), there shouldn't be a problem with me later drafting Character B, from Gundam 00, since they are completely separate series in every sense that really matters.

I'd further that in saying that each Gundam timeline is a seperate universe. Gundam, Zeta Gundam, and ZZ Gundam count as a single universe (along with Unicorn, and the rest), Seed and Seed Destiny are a universe, Gundam 00 is a universe... well you get the point.

[Victor Lewandowski]

There is no limit on the number of characters that will be allowed from a series, though each player is still limited to 1.

On another note, let's pretend for the sake of argument that the various incarnations of Cid are alternate universe versions of each other. These alternate universe versions are quite different from each other.

Ie the Cid in Final Fantasy Tactics and the Cid in Final Fantasy 6 are quite different from each other. So the question is this. Would be the fact they're different allow both to be drafted. Or would it be like "One version of Cid is enough, no other version is allowed."?


It would be like one version only. Look at Tenchi Muyo and all of it's alternating universes. Once one version of a character is drafted, all other versions are locked out. :sweat:

[Fencedude]

However, if I were to draft say, Character A (from Mobile Suit Gundam), there shouldn't be a problem with me later drafting Character B, from Gundam 00, since they are completely separate series in every sense that really matters.

I'd further that in saying that each Gundam timeline is a seperate universe. Gundam, Zeta Gundam, and ZZ Gundam count as a single universe (along with Unicorn, and the rest), Seed and Seed Destiny are a universe, Gundam 00 is a universe... well you get the point.

Oh yeah, absolutely.

I think its best to define these things by "universe", which accounts for the Sakura situation (since its become pretty well established that all CLAMP characters inhabit the same Multiverse), but doesn't do absurd things like lock out all Gundam series because of one pick from a show that is completely unrelated to the rest in any way.

[Fencedude]

It would be like one version only. Look at Tenchi Muyo and all of it's alternating universes. Once one version of a character is drafted, all other versions are locked out. :sweat:

No, its not the same thing. Actually, this line of discussion probably isn't that important, since I don't think there are any anime characters in the same situation as Cid.

The Cid's are all completely different characters who just happen to have the same name. What you are suggesting would be like saying that since Kinomoto Sakura has been drafted, no one else with "Sakura" in their name can be drafted by that person. Which is silly.

[Fudce]

Basicly - if in doubt, PM the question of who you want to know about to dunno. He'll say one way or another. In most instances common sense is needed.

[Suwako Moriya]

I think its best to define these things by "universe", which accounts for the Sakura situation (since its become pretty well established that all CLAMP characters inhabit the same Multiverse), but doesn't do absurd things like lock out all Gundam series because of one pick from a show that is completely unrelated to the rest in any way.

That makes sense to me. I was actually considering using Gundam as one of the examples, but hesitated. Still since others are mentioning Gundam, I'll go ahead and bring up the primary motivation for the question.

Which would be Pretty Cure itself. Max Heart is a continuation of Original. However Splash Star is separate from both of those. Never mind the fact we now have two movies that are essentially crossovers and it's hard to say how that would effect things.

[dunno001]

Wait, there were serious questions still being asked in here? Oops, I'll give the official answer for them.

A character is the same character from all series, as has been mentioned Sakura from CCS = Sakura from Tsubasa. However, Sakura's existance in Tsubasa would also techinically lock out Tsubasa from the pick of Sakura, even though it is the CCS version that is referenced. Conversely, if I were to pick character X from CCS that does NOT show up in Tsubasa, I could also pick character Y from Tsubasa, given that Y does NOT also show up in CCS.

So, going to the FF reference, Cid would be a dangerous pick. As Cid exists in most FF games, his existance in them would lock out all those games from your pick. (Of course, it would be moot if it were per series rather than per game.) So I guess a better way to put it would be that if I picked Cloud from FF7, his appearance in FFT would lock out any pick from that game, but his lack of appearance in FF6 would let me pick Locke, since he doesn't show up in 7 or Tactics. Whereas a pick of Cid would prevent me from picking either Cloud or Locke, as he shows up in both of those games.

As for Gundam, well, I never really got into that franchise, so I really can't answer that too well. (Plus, so few characters are picked from there that I've never really had to make a ruling on it.) I guess now would be the time to do so... since I have a roommate who's obsessed (that may be an understatement) with Gundam, I would probably go by universe, clearing things through her about anything I'm not clear of. (And with *BEEEP* dominating one of those...)

[Fudce]

So, going to the FF reference, Cid would be a dangerous pick. As Cid exists in most FF games, his existance in them would lock out all those games from your pick. (Of course, it would be moot if it were per series rather than per game.) So I guess a better way to put it would be that if I picked Cloud from FF7, his appearance in FFT would lock out any pick from that game, but his lack of appearance in FF6 would let me pick Locke, since he doesn't show up in 7 or Tactics. Whereas a pick of Cid would prevent me from picking either Cloud or Locke, as he shows up in both of those games.

I half agree with what you said, but that implies that all Cids are the same person - or alternate universe versions of the same person.

Cid would be the mother of all akward picks - since there are technically at least fifteen unique Cid's throughout the series. Cid Highwind isn't the same person or even an alternate universe version of Cid Kramer, and they again are unrelated to Cid of Bastok and Cid Fabool IX... They just share the same name and the common sense of importance or inventitiveness. Thankfully I can't think of any anime characters who would be as akward as Cid would be as a game character.

[Betenoire]

Thankfully I can't think of any anime characters who would be as akward as Cid would be as a game character.

I kind of can, as there are a number of anime that base thing off Japanese history, so some names pop up that are supposed to be the same character as the actual historical character....so you could pick the "same person" from a couple of completely (story wise, creator wise) different series. :sd:

[William K]

Thankfully I can't think of any anime characters who would be as akward as Cid would be as a game character.

I kind of can, as there are a number of anime that base thing off Japanese history, so some names pop up that are supposed to be the same character as the actual historical character....so you could pick the "same person" from a couple of completely (story wise, creator wise) different series. :sd:

Like from Romance of 3 Kingdoms.... So, hypothetically I can pick characters from Ikkitousen and (Shin) Koihime Musou with the same name, correct?