Dance in the Vampire Bund Streams And DVDs To Be Censored

[Chris Beveridge]

Within hours of the series making its streaming debut in the US from FUNimation...

More... (http://www.mania.com/dance-vampire-bund-streams-dvds-to-censored_article_121034.html)

[kakugo]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

Not cool, FUNimation. Not cool.

[Collectonian]

The response on the ANN forums was...intense to say the least. I'm curious, as I've not seen anything of the series, but is the manga also being censored by its releasor, or is it more tame, or...?

[something]

The response on the ANN forums was...intense to say the least. I'm curious, as I've not seen anything of the series, but is the manga also being censored by its releasor, or is it more tame, or...?
The manga is uncensored, and by all accounts rather more explicit than the actually not very explicit anime.

[Junker Woland]

The response on the ANN forums was...intense to say the least. I'm curious, as I've not seen anything of the series, but is the manga also being censored by its releasor, or is it more tame, or...?
The manga has not been censored to this point; and judging by the content that has been left intact, I'd say it probably won't be, unless the series suddenly turns pornographic (or publisher Seven Seas changes standards).

As for content, the Vampire Bund manga is more conceptually--than visually--graphic. And in terms of what comic portions have been animated, I'd say the show is fairly true in form to its source material. I guess the manga does look more erotic, though.

[Fencedude]

As for content, the Vampire Bund manga is more conceptually--than visually--graphic. And in terms of what comic portions have been animated, I'd say the show is fairly true in form to its source material. I guess the manga does look more erotic, though.

Vampire Bund does an excellent job of capturing the subtle eroticism of vampires, which, if people would bother to remember, is one of the most important facets of the entire lore.

[Junker Woland]

As for content, the Vampire Bund manga is more conceptually--than visually--graphic. And in terms of what comic portions have been animated, I'd say the show is fairly true in form to its source material. I guess the manga does look more erotic, though.

Vampire Bund does an excellent job of capturing the subtle eroticism of vampires, which, if people would bother to remember, is one of the most important facets of the entire lore.
True. Since Stoker's Dracula, sensuality has become a powerful component in vampire mythos. VB does a good job making its vampire sexy, without necessarily being lewd.

[adam_omega]

The manga has not been censored to this point; and judging by the content that has been left intact, I'd say it probably won't be, unless the series suddenly turns pornographic (or publisher Seven Seas changes standards).

Seven Seas' stance is that we do not censor interior artwork. Even so, there's no reason for Dance in the Vampire Bund's manga to be censored in the first place. Mina engages in no sexual activity and she's immortal. It's just a damn good vampire book through and through.

[Fencedude]

The manga has not been censored to this point; and judging by the content that has been left intact, I'd say it probably won't be, unless the series suddenly turns pornographic (or publisher Seven Seas changes standards).

Seven Seas' stance is that we do not censor interior artwork. Even so, there's no reason for Dance in the Vampire Bund's manga to be censored in the first place. Mina engages in no sexual activity and she's immortal. It's just a damn good vampire book through and through.

I am amazed you got away with the cover for volume 6.

And I will admit, I won't not buy a manga because of cover edits, specifying "interior art" is a good distinction.

[Hayate Kurogane]

The manga has not been censored to this point; and judging by the content that has been left intact, I'd say it probably won't be, unless the series suddenly turns pornographic (or publisher Seven Seas changes standards).

Seven Seas' stance is that we do not censor interior artwork. Even so, there's no reason for Dance in the Vampire Bund's manga to be censored in the first place. Mina engages in no sexual activity and she's immortal. It's just a damn good vampire book through and through.

I am amazed you got away with the cover for volume 6.

And I will admit, I won't not buy a manga because of cover edits, specifying "interior art" is a good distinction.

There was one volume, 4 maybe, where the cover piece appeared to have elicited some clever and strategic logo placement, which wouldn't have been the first time a studio went that route (ADV's Steel Angel Kurumi DVD covers still amaze me, insofar as being sent to B&M stores as they were). The full image was still, of course, printed inside.

Setting aside the issues with the impending R1 anime release, I have to say that I've appreciated Seven Seas' release of the manga ever since volume 1, which I picked up on a whim and found to be highly entertaining. Despite the small catalog and current lack of other titles of interest (not because they're OEL or somesuch, but because none of them have clicked with me enough to buy them), I'm very much a Seven Seas fan for keeping the Vampire Bund manga going, with no breaks or indefinite hiatuses or whatnot. I guess what that really means is that it's selling well, but I'd like to selfishly think it's also because Seven Seas is happy to cater to my interests. :sdsmiley:

[Betenoire]

Despite the small catalog and current lack of other titles of interest (not because they're OEL or somesuch, but because none of them have clicked with me enough to buy them), I'm very much a Seven Seas fan for keeping the Vampire Bund manga going, with no breaks or indefinite hiatuses or whatnot. I guess what that really means is that it's selling well, but I'd like to selfishly think it's also because Seven Seas is happy to cater to my interests. :sdsmiley:

...Wow, you avoided the Hayate Cross Blade bug? Amazing.

[something]

Seven Seas' stance is that we do not censor interior artwork. Even so, there's no reason for Dance in the Vampire Bund's manga to be censored in the first place. Mina engages in no sexual activity and she's immortal. It's just a damn good vampire book through and through.
If there's anything positive about this disgusting debacle, it's that I'm suddenly feeling a lot more interested in picking up the Bund manga.

[something]

Despite the small catalog and current lack of other titles of interest (not because they're OEL or somesuch, but because none of them have clicked with me enough to buy them), I'm very much a Seven Seas fan for keeping the Vampire Bund manga going, with no breaks or indefinite hiatuses or whatnot. I guess what that really means is that it's selling well, but I'd like to selfishly think it's also because Seven Seas is happy to cater to my interests. :sdsmiley:

...Wow, you avoided the Hayate Cross Blade bug? Amazing.

Isn't his nick the lead character's name...? =P

[Betenoire]

Seven Seas' stance is that we do not censor interior artwork. Even so, there's no reason for Dance in the Vampire Bund's manga to be censored in the first place. Mina engages in no sexual activity and she's immortal. It's just a damn good vampire book through and through.
If there's anything positive about this disgusting debacle, it's that I'm suddenly feeling a lot more interested in picking up the Bund manga.

Seconded. I have been interested since I saw a thread in the manga section and this crap has bumped it higher up my list to acquire.

[Fencedude]

Despite the small catalog and current lack of other titles of interest (not because they're OEL or somesuch, but because none of them have clicked with me enough to buy them), I'm very much a Seven Seas fan for keeping the Vampire Bund manga going, with no breaks or indefinite hiatuses or whatnot. I guess what that really means is that it's selling well, but I'd like to selfishly think it's also because Seven Seas is happy to cater to my interests. :sdsmiley:

...Wow, you avoided the Hayate Cross Blade bug? Amazing.

...that was sarcasm, right?

[Fencedude]

If there's anything positive about this disgusting debacle, it's that I'm suddenly feeling a lot more interested in picking up the Bund manga.

Bund Manga is good, and Nozomu Tamaki has a wonderfully unique and sensual art style. The anime actually ahs done a much better job of capturing it than I ever would have expected.

[Betenoire]

Despite the small catalog and current lack of other titles of interest (not because they're OEL or somesuch, but because none of them have clicked with me enough to buy them), I'm very much a Seven Seas fan for keeping the Vampire Bund manga going, with no breaks or indefinite hiatuses or whatnot. I guess what that really means is that it's selling well, but I'd like to selfishly think it's also because Seven Seas is happy to cater to my interests. :sdsmiley:

...Wow, you avoided the Hayate Cross Blade bug? Amazing.

...that was sarcasm, right?

...I would like to say "yes" especially given the screen name...

...but I am a little off my game at the moment. :sd:

[Hayate Kurogane]

Despite the small catalog and current lack of other titles of interest (not because they're OEL or somesuch, but because none of them have clicked with me enough to buy them), I'm very much a Seven Seas fan for keeping the Vampire Bund manga going, with no breaks or indefinite hiatuses or whatnot. I guess what that really means is that it's selling well, but I'd like to selfishly think it's also because Seven Seas is happy to cater to my interests. :sdsmiley:

...Wow, you avoided the Hayate Cross Blade bug? Amazing.

...that was sarcasm, right?

...I would like to say "yes" especially given the screen name...

...but I am a little off my game at the moment. :sd:

*throws Betenoire a rope*

Perhaps I should've typed "...lack of many other titles of interest..." just to be extra clear...?

:sdsmiley:

:sweat:

*begins hauling Betenoire back to shore*

[Betenoire]

*throws Betenoire a rope*

Perhaps I should've typed "...lack of many other titles of interest..." just to be extra clear...?

:sdsmiley:

:sweat:

*begins hauling Betenoire back to shore*

:bowsmiley:

Feeling a little like Gene Wilder in his intro scene in Blazing Saddles.

Little: "Need a little help?"

Wilder: "oh, all I can get." :sd:

[Suwako Moriya]

Vampire Bund does an excellent job of capturing the subtle eroticism of vampires, which, if people would bother to remember, is one of the most important facets of the entire lore.

Thanks to what I've experienced in terms of Vampire Lore, I tend to associate Vampires with the following. One of which is what you already mentioned in the quote box.

As for the other? Let's thinking about what average vampire is supposed to be. A walking corpse that feeds on the living. Last, I checked that isn't a bright and happy thing.

Granted the impression one will get from a vampire in a story will depend heavily on the design. There's a huge difference between say a handsome 25 year old man vs what looks like a rotting corpse and smells like one too.

Note, I'm just making a general statement and it may not be accurate to Vampire Bund. Still the point is this. Outside of those cartoons that "tone" things down, I got the impression that things like Vampires are a dark subject matter in general.

[joelgundam01]

Seven Seas' stance is that we do not censor interior artwork. Even so, there's no reason for Dance in the Vampire Bund's manga to be censored in the first place. Mina engages in no sexual activity and she's immortal. It's just a damn good vampire book through and through.
If there's anything positive about this disgusting debacle, it's that I'm suddenly feeling a lot more interested in picking up the Bund manga.

Please do! You won't be disappointed by it. I bought the first volume and got instantly hooked on it. I bought the other five volumes pretty quickly.

[kakugo]

Vampires were sexy since Carmilla, 25 years before Stoker made the monster a male. But that's just splitting hairs. ;)

[J-Syxx]

Vampire Bund does an excellent job of capturing the subtle eroticism of vampires, which, if people would bother to remember, is one of the most important facets of the entire lore.

Thanks to what I've experienced in terms of Vampire Lore, I tend to associate Vampires with the following. One of which is what you already mentioned in the quote box.

As for the other? Let's thinking about what average vampire is supposed to be. A walking corpse that feeds on the living. Last, I checked that isn't a bright and happy thing.

Granted the impression one will get from a vampire in a story will depend heavily on the design. There's a huge difference between say a handsome 25 year old man vs what looks like a rotting corpse and smells like one too.

Note, I'm just making a general statement and it may not be accurate to Vampire Bund. Still the point is this. Outside of those cartoons that "tone" things down, I got the impression that things like Vampires are a dark subject matter in general.

Vampires have always been about eroticism. Vampire = Seductress/Seducer. Biting one's neck= penetration. Just because the vampires in Twilight are chaste practicing Mormons because of it's simple minded author, doesn't change the fact that's what it's been for hundreds of years in pretty much everything they've appeared in outside of Twilight and Sesame Street.

[Junker Woland]

Seven Seas' stance is that we do not censor interior artwork.
Glad to here. Hopefully Seven Seas will be able to maintain this ideal well into the future.

Vampires were sexy since Carmilla, 25 years before Stoker made the monster a male. But that's just splitting hairs.
True, Le Fanu's novella came first. Still, I tend to see this as a case not so much of who came first, but which work was more important (of course, one could argue Dracula as we know it does not exist without the earlier text). Makes me wanna dig Carmilla out of the closet for a read...

Of course, there's also the short story The Vampyre, which predates both.

Vampires have always been about eroticism.
Well, this isn’t entirely true. The sexualized vampire, particularly as we know it, is really more a construct from the mid-19th century, which took root and spread through the 1900s and into modern day.

Myths and folklore from most every regions are full of blood suckers. Some admittedly come charged with erotic overtones, but many are foul monsters and corpses that wander the earth, or scrape from the grave, with the sole purpose of eating people—they’re not very sexy.

[Suwako Moriya]

Myths and folklore from most every regions are full of blood suckers. Some admittedly come charged with erotic overtones, but many are foul monsters and corpses that wander the earth, or scrape from the grave, with the sole purpose of eating people—they’re not very sexy.

And that was one of the things I was thinking about when making the statement I made earlier. The funny thing about myths and folklore (or heck a lot of things) is that over time things branch out. Which leads to multiple versions so to speak.

[Gatts]

As for the other? Let's thinking about what average vampire is supposed to be. A walking corpse that feeds on the living. Last, I checked that isn't a bright and happy thing.

You seem to be confusing Vampires with Zombies or Frankenstein's monster. Vampires have always been living. Walking dead and immortal are two different things.

[something]

As for the other? Let's thinking about what average vampire is supposed to be. A walking corpse that feeds on the living. Last, I checked that isn't a bright and happy thing.You seem to be confusing Vampires with Zombies or Frankenstein's monster. Vampires have always been living. Walking dead and immortal are two different things.
Well, there is that whole sleeping in a coffin thing. Indeed they're not the undead but that might throw some people.

[Betenoire]

You seem to be confusing Vampires with Zombies or Frankenstein's monster. Vampires have always been living. Walking dead and immortal are two different things.

Really? What about the part of being declared dead and buried-sometimes for 3 days, sometimes not-that goes along with different aspects of the lore depending on the source? They have always seemed in the "undead" category to me.

[Suwako Moriya]

You seem to be confusing Vampires with Zombies or Frankenstein's monster. Vampires have always been living. Walking dead and immortal are two different things.

Really? What about the part of being declared dead and buried-sometimes for 3 days, sometimes not-that goes along with different aspects of the lore depending on the source? They have always seemed in the "undead" category to me.

Thanks for pointing that out. Although to be fair, I'm still partially wrong. While some Vampires are indeed "undead", there are also vampires that are of the living type.

Although one could argue that once one becomes a vampire, it might not matter much in the long run.

Still the fun part about legend variations is just that there are variations. For example, in some stories the stake is used to kill the vampire. In others, it's there to keep the corpse in its grave.

On a somewhat off topic note, I'm still amused by that special that suggested the idea that the wolf in Little Red Riding Hood was a werewolf. As it puts things in a different perspective.

[Betenoire]

Although to be fair, I'm still partially wrong. While some Vampires are indeed "undead", there are also vampires that are of the living type.

Morbius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morbius_the_Living_Vampire)? :sdsmiley:

That's just it, there isn't one vampire lore. In some sunlight turns vampires to ash while in others they are just weakened and in one they sparkle (though any other vampire could take them no problem).

[Fencedude]

As for the other? Let's thinking about what average vampire is supposed to be. A walking corpse that feeds on the living. Last, I checked that isn't a bright and happy thing.

You seem to be confusing Vampires with Zombies or Frankenstein's monster. Vampires have always been living. Walking dead and immortal are two different things.

Depends on the lore, really. Vampires are generally categorized as Undead though, especially if you are playing by D&D rules.

Though the consensus has been moving away from that of late, and it doesn't really fit in the Bundverse.

[Gatts]

Really? What about the part of being declared dead and buried-sometimes for 3 days, sometimes not-that goes along with different aspects of the lore depending on the source? They have always seemed in the "undead" category to me.

True depending on the source some are required to be buried, however the generally accepted tale of how they can be "killed" by stabbing them through the heart would take away the "undead" portion. You can't kill the undead. Just destroy them.

[Gatts]

Depends on the lore, really. Vampires are generally categorized as Undead though, especially if you are playing by D&D rules.

If you are playing by White Wolf (Vampire: The Masquerade / Werewolf: The Apocalypse) rules, they are kindred which is separate from undying. :)

[Betenoire]

Really? What about the part of being declared dead and buried-sometimes for 3 days, sometimes not-that goes along with different aspects of the lore depending on the source? They have always seemed in the "undead" category to me.

True depending on the source some are required to be buried, however the generally accepted tale of how they can be "killed" by stabbing them through the heart would take away the "undead" portion. You can't kill the undead. Just destroy them.

Depending on the lore even destroying them doesn't work as they can be resurrected using their ashes and blood. One of the legends cutting their head off (and stuffing them with something...garlic, roses?) works (like cutting the head of almost anything but a horseman or a few other things isn't instantly fatal...:sd:).

[InfernalTempter]

I really hope this bites Funi in the ass... hard... really hard But I'll save further ranting for the other thread!


The manga has not been censored to this point; and judging by the content that has been left intact, I'd say it probably won't be, unless the series suddenly turns pornographic (or publisher Seven Seas changes standards).

Seven Seas' stance is that we do not censor interior artwork. Even so, there's no reason for Dance in the Vampire Bund's manga to be censored in the first place. Mina engages in no sexual activity and she's immortal. It's just a damn good vampire book through and through.

You should send that message to Funi,lol!:sdsmiley:





There was one volume, 4 maybe, where the cover piece appeared to have elicited some clever and strategic logo placement, which wouldn't have been the first time a studio went that route (ADV's Steel Angel Kurumi DVD covers still amaze me, insofar as being sent to B&M stores as they were). The full image was still, of course, printed inside.



Actually, Seven Seas' version does have a different cover than the Japanese version, I have the Japanese release in my hand to confirm it. However, it's not the typical cover edit that one would think of in regards to US manga.

The US version has, to say the very least, less clutter than the JPN version. The US version uses the exact same images as the JPN version, however, the images a more centered in the US version (JPN version has all the images slightly off to the left), and, of course, the logo for the series is place in the bottom center (with some slight strategic "p" placement, in the case of vol.4)

The JPN version, is, to say the very least, a freakin clusterfuck. I'll list it all in bullet points for easy see-ability!

-First, all of the cover images is slightly off to the left. It's not really a big deal, it's just a noteworthy changed from the US cover.

-2nd, logo hell. On the left of the image, you have the title written vertically in Katakana. To the left of the Katakana you have the title, written in English with a curvaceous font. To the right of the katakana you have Nozomu's name written in kanji and English

-To the right of the image, you have the "The -author-" presents "-title with volumes number-". THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT IS WRITTEN NEXT TO THE KATAKANA! The only thing different in the font, using a TNR-esque font.

-To the right of the title 2nd title, you have a shit load of text written in various fonts, all in German (at least I think it is:"in deiner brust sind deines Schickals" sounds German to me!)

-It's not over yet. To the right of the German text, you have the title and volume number, written via eng... AGAIN!

-Finally, in case you didn't know that the name of the series is "Dance in the Vampire Bund" the title is written, in a semi-transparent font, OVER THE COVER IMAGE. The name of the freakin title is written 5 times on the cover. Seriously, I don't think I've ever seen a cover that is such a mess. And I just wanted to share this little bit of info for the fans of the ENG version. I thought it would be nice to make the mental comparison, hence this rather pointless and somewhat off topic rant:P

So, yes, technically speaking the cover for the US is different than the JPN cover, but in this case, it's for all the right reasons!

And fuck you, funi! (couldn't contain myself, sorry...)

[Randall]

As for the other? Let's thinking about what average vampire is supposed to be. A walking corpse that feeds on the living. Last, I checked that isn't a bright and happy thing.You seem to be confusing Vampires with Zombies or Frankenstein's monster. Vampires have always been living. Walking dead and immortal are two different things.
Well, there is that whole sleeping in a coffin thing. Indeed they're not the undead but that might throw some people.

Except the sleeping in a coffin is basically a nice bed for vampires to stay away from the sun during the daytime.

[Betenoire]

Except the sleeping in a coffin is basically a nice bed for vampires to stay away from the sun during the daytime.


Some lore has it that they have to and it also has to contain soil from their native land (hence why some vampire hunters spend time laying traps in the coffin rather than just wait for the vampire to go to sleep.

[Gatts]

Some lore has it that they have to and it also has to contain soil from their native land (hence why some vampire hunters spend time laying traps in the coffin rather than just wait for the vampire to go to sleep.

It would be quicker to go down the list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tables_of_vampire_traits).

Of course back to the DVD (since I'm guilty of driving this off topic). I'm probably just going to pick up the R2 and call it a day.

[Betenoire]

I'm probably just going to pick up the R2 and call it a day.

This would be a nice time for them to do a Unicorn style release (though I know that won't happen).

[Orihimes_Boyfriend]

Of course back to the DVD (since I'm guilty of driving this off topic). I'm probably just going to pick up the R2 and call it a day.
Well here is hoping enough people do that or just flat out refuse to pick it up in R1 to send Funimation the message "Uncut or not at all!"

[InfernalTempter]

Of course back to the DVD (since I'm guilty of driving this off topic). I'm probably just going to pick up the R2 and call it a day.
Well here is hoping enough people do that or just flat out refuse to pick it up in R1 to send Funimation the message "Uncut or not at all!"

Well, within a matter of a few days, the poll about this topic over 400 votes (I don't think any poll as shot up that high in such a short amount of time!), and about 300 of those votes feature people who had some interest in the title, but will no longer buy it due to this news. In addition, many (myself included) have sent negative feedback directly to Funi vis email ( feedback@funimation.com ), in addition to the comment section on their very website.

This is something that Funi will find a bit hard to ignore,IMO. Hopefully the backlash with get them to... reevaluate this particular series.

If a company is willing to edit once, they'll edit again. It's as simple as that.