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It certainly would be interesting news if it were to happen. I don't know how they'd be able to compete when the market is so saturated though... competing against Microsoft and Sony is too difficult.
My bigger concern about Sega is their fall from grace... most of their games in the last 6-7 years have not been very good. Perhaps if they had their own hardware again, there would be more production budgets available again to help create better games, like they did in years past. |
Posted 02-11-2009 at 01:44 PM by dragoon
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Yeah, I know Sega's been publishing mostly mediocre titles but alot of that stems from the limited techonology of the consoles. The Wii is very underpowered and weak so SEGA can really push it's graphics to the limit. The 360's development kit is kinda of costly and the PS3 is very difficult to program much like the Saturn.
I personally think that if SEGA is planning on getting back into the console market which is what this sounds like that they're going to play the "phase PS3 out" trumpcard. Since the console has been a dismal failure,Sony has already posted a billion dollar quarterly loss and has predicted that it could lose up to $3 billion a quarter this year if PS3 sales remain poor, also many 3rd party publishers have abandoned it because of the high development costs. If things get worse for PS3 and they are bound to, then SEGA may be able to phase it out with a more powerful,less costly and easy to program 256-bit machine. |
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Posted 02-11-2009 at 05:57 PM by TornadoTatsumaki
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Yeah, I know Sega's been publishing mostly mediocre titles but alot of that stems from the limited techonology of the consoles. The Wii is very underpowered and weak so SEGA can really push it's graphics to the limit. The 360's development kit is kinda of costly and the PS3 is very difficult to program much like the Saturn.
That said, when thinking of examples of good games for current gen systems, the one title that spring to mind is the absolutely fantastic Valkyria Chronicles. Proof that you don't need to a colour pallet borrowed from a gravy factory to make a current generation game look beautiful, and blending that beauty with a compelling storyline and original gameplay mechanics. And that beauty comes from SEGA. Prooving us wrong (me included) that Sega can't make good games any more. Good games are possible this generation, there are proof of them all around us, and Sega has been amongst the names producing the good games. They need to stop trying to milk Sonic dry, and get back to creating games that people actually want to play. Original and exciting games that don't fit into a hundred and one cliched pitfalls to become just another clone of a more popular game. |
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Posted 02-11-2009 at 06:22 PM by Fudce
Updated 02-11-2009 at 06:30 PM by Fudce |
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Most of those high quality games like GTA and Halo are overratted, and are the same game re-hased every year. Most of the reviews aren't legit and I've heard that websites like Gamespot are actaully bribed money by publishers to give thier games rave reviews, for instance Sonic Unleashed was panned by critics, but most people that brought the game said that they found it enjoyable.
I think about all the reviews that SEGA's 3rd party titles gets comes from the fact that they don't pay the game sites to give them solid reviews. |
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Posted 02-11-2009 at 11:42 PM by TornadoTatsumaki
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Oops, double post error.
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Posted 02-12-2009 at 05:16 PM by dragoon
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I agree those are overrated, but I don't agree with the statement that the reviews aren't legit.
I used to know and talk to several of the EGM and 1up editors quite frequently many, many years ago when I was more in that scene... and I've heard a lot of industry dirt and behind the scenes going on. In regards to that statement, certainly they are under pressure not to entirely piss off the publishers... back in the heyday if they consistently bashed a big name title like say Final Fantasy or Madden... the consequences could be tough... in terms of their relations with the publishers, getting early preview copies, inside access, etc. I always take reviews with a grain of salt because of that. These publishing and news companies are businesses after-all. They can't conduct business without publishers/creators/game companies giving them access. Having said that though, at least from the inside knowledge I've seen and witnessed, I haven't seen or heard any kind of bribes or dirty stuff like that going on, at least not on a mass scale. Could it and might have happened? Possibly... Businesses are not immune to shady stuff, especially when many editors in the industry are either young or looking for inside access to better their careers. I've bought every Sega released system since the Master System all at launch or near launch... and in the case of Dreamcast, I have 3 of them. I know quite a bit about Sega... since well, they were my favorite company. But their troubles don't have anything to do with the pay issue. In my opinion especially after they pulled the plug on Dreamcast, Sega simply lost a lot of the creative talents that made them a force from the mid 80s to the early 2000s. The money and talent just wasn't there anymore. A lot of Sega great game creators, producers and artists that made the company so great throughtout those historic years either left for other places or went on to form their own studios. Have they made some great games since then? From a technical sure. But definitely not as consistently as before. From me personally, for my own tastes or from the tastes of someone who has played many of their games over the course of 15 something years... they haven't put out something that has electrified me recently, sadly. Although having said that, most companies haven't either. I think I'm in a phase now where games don't interest me much anymore -- everything almost feels been there done that already.  |
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Posted 02-12-2009 at 05:16 PM by dragoon
Updated 02-12-2009 at 05:22 PM by dragoon |
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I heard that the dirt comes from Gamespot. That they'll only give games that have big publishers higher scores if their paid well.
And while I agree with you on Sega's difficult transition to the 3rd party market that alot of the great talent they had. But if you look at it during the previous generation 2002-2006 they made alot of really solid third party titles which is why I brought an Xbox and played great titles like ESPN 2K5,Panzer Dragoon Orta and Jet Set Radio Future, it was in 2006 when thier games' quality soured into mediocrity starting with Sonic Riders. I believe alot of that has to do with the limitations of the current consoles high development costs rather then them not making goods games. I know they've been trying. Sonic 2006 was a letdown because SEGA was forced to rush it out for PS3's launch. |
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Posted 02-12-2009 at 06:18 PM by TornadoTatsumaki
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Valid points there to be sure... oh and I too loved the 2k, Panzer and JSR series. Those probably were my favorite Xbox games. Now if Sega somehow manages to release Shenmue 3 and complete the saga, their stature and favor with me will rise to immortal heights. I am not expecting it though, given they pretty much had it completed a while ago, but just didn't want to/couldn't release it for various reasons.
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Posted 02-12-2009 at 06:32 PM by dragoon
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A newly leaked video from Japan has just unveiled the SEGA RingWide and RingEdge hardware boards: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=423FSWYM-gM&feature=channel_page[/url]
One of them looks like it's going to be arcade board and the other looks like it's going to be a the CPU basis for a console!! If you read the specs which are in Japanese they even have a brand NEW not yet released Windows program called "Windows Embedded Standard 2009." No, this video IS not fan made or fake, it's real and it's from Japan. Both logos use two colors. RingWide is blue like Sonic and RingEdge is orange like Dreamcast. Both have a fancy sphere as a logo with an "R" in it. |
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Posted 03-30-2009 at 03:36 PM by TornadoTatsumaki
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Yay, Sega is returning! Wait, this was posted how many years ago?
Hmm, this could cause me to doubt the validity of TornadoTatsumaki's claims... |
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Posted 02-21-2011 at 07:47 AM by Betenoire
Updated 02-21-2011 at 07:56 AM by Betenoire |
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Its funny because I'm playing Hyperdimension Neptunia where Sega basically self-inserts themselves into the modern console war and makes their personification the main character.
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Posted 02-21-2011 at 08:31 AM by Fencedude
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The sad thing is this guy has been spreading stupid Sega rumors on other forums, like stuff about a Naomi 3 hardware revision and god knows what else. If I can find the threads I'll link them, they're comedy gold. He also has a Youtube account and from his comments I can tell it's him.
Some Sega fanboys are so delusional, I swear to god. EDIT: Here's one thread. Check out his other posts, I'm sure they're BS too. The best part is the source of the information is one "Zachary Morris."  And here's that Naomi 3 thread. |
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Posted 02-22-2011 at 06:16 AM by Zeether
Updated 02-22-2011 at 06:22 AM by Zeether |
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