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These people are not true fans. I would hardly call them the "next" generation of anime fandom, since they're not really fans.
Downloading a torrent off the internet does not make you a fan. But the only thing true fans can do is to support the creators and the licensees as much as possible, so that there remains money to create the next generation of anime. It doesn't get created for free after all. Among all of those downloaders who never buy, some of them will realize that they have to put some money back into the system, or else there won't be any more anime to watch. Those who will never contribute, well, if the industry goes under, they'll have only themselves to blame for there being no more free entertainment for themselves. |
Posted 04-07-2008 at 11:08 AM by The Great Bear
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Actually such people have been around too long to be considered the next generation of anything... Either way it's kind of pointless to whine about stuff being licensed. Well I guess it's okay to whine if the show gets licensed by someone intent on ruining the series...
Such people will always exist so all one can do to counter them is buy what they can. Even if one only buys collections it's still better than nothing. Granted I buy singles, but do plan to buy collections more often for obvious reasons. |
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Posted 04-07-2008 at 11:30 AM by Suwako Moriya
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Yeah, to complain that a show has gotten licensed pretty much tells you what kind of "fans" those people are. For example my friends aren't quite like me in that they usually only buy animes when they're really cheap, on sale, and maybe an occasional title that they really enjoy and just have to get immediately, with the third part being occasional. But when they find out that something they like got licensed, they're cool with it since they know that they can have actual DVDs they can show off to others.
I'll agree that the best thing to do is just to buy and support in any way and hope the companies pick up the titles you like. |
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Posted 04-07-2008 at 12:18 PM by LordGeo
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Yeah, the consequences of this "instant gratification" society were people want it now and free without care of the realities of the economics of anime.
I would like too see when their actions bring down the industry and they go to other hobbies where they can mouch off for free and leave the real fans that supported the industry without nothing to see... the hypocrites...   |
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Posted 04-07-2008 at 12:55 PM by Vicserr
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The silver lining here is that apparently this "next generation" isn't sophisticated enough to find licensed anime once it's been removed from easily-accessible streaming-video sites.
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Posted 04-07-2008 at 01:00 PM by Zalis
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Originally Posted by Zalis
The silver lining here is that apparently this "next generation" isn't sophisticated enough to find licensed anime once it's been removed from easily-accessible streaming-video sites.
 Still, long term the companies have to find a way to make it profitable for them to control internet distribution themselves, while making it inconvenient and not worth the effort of those technologically proficient "fans" who illegally distribute shows to continue doing what they're doing. |
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Posted 04-07-2008 at 01:39 PM by The Great Bear
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Gonzo's model isn't working for the more extreme fansub watchers, please note that the "mainstream" by-and-large is watching the Gonzo model, because they just want free anime -- but not the "extremists". They want "more accurate, better punctuation, better video quality" releases. That's why they wait for one of these groups and not watch the YouTube, CR or BOSTTV versions. I've spoken to a few of my friends who said they prefer a group's translations over the one's provided by the 3 streaming sites, Gonzo.
You can't please everyone it seems. |
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Posted 04-07-2008 at 01:50 PM by LelouchLamperouge
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Originally Posted by Lelouche
You can't please everyone it seems.
In the end, the industry just has to make it no longer worth the while of fansub groups to do what they do. Many of them now are into it because of the ego of being first. If the companies are releasing subbed streaming versions on the day or within the next day or two after broadcast, then the number of downloads for the fansub groups will probably plummet to the point where it no longer feeds their egos. "Woohoo! I got 134 downloads! I'm #1!" Considering the current download numbers, a lot of the egotists will probably not be all that interested in that low a number of hits. These people are not a group that has to be catered to nor compromised with. Once the companies can get the largest number of people to view anime legally, these small fringe groups will not be worth paying any attention to. |
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Posted 04-07-2008 at 01:59 PM by The Great Bear
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It makes me sigh whenever I see someone on a forum say something like, "I've had to buy another hard drive, my other one is full of anime".
Just how much anime does it take to fill up a hard drive these days?! Hard Drives are 200G plus, and they fill them? |
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Posted 04-08-2008 at 03:42 AM by Fudce
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Those people are lampreys, suckling at the teats of bittorrent and streaming sites.
I went to crunchyroll for the first time about a month ago, becuase that was the first I'd heard of it. I was happy to see they had some older series streaming that have been suffering from broken torrents, but the comments on the sidebar made me die a little inside. It's one of the reasons I stopped going to my college anime club: I saw the direction it was heading, and left before it turned into an environment I didn't want to be a part of. Everything they're showing now is fansubs anyway. I remember when the club watched tapes of obscure stuff like Sohryuden and Oniisama E... |
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Posted 04-08-2008 at 07:44 PM by Konoha
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This generation also had people who made napster so its not a surprise people are moving to digital instead of actual hard copies,but I've moved to buying manga thats imported but at least someone is getting paid. Did scanlations become a problem before or after this as well?
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Posted 08-08-2008 at 12:56 PM by jigoku panda
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The next generation of the anime fandom downright disturbs me.
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Posted 08-08-2008 at 06:20 PM by Fluffy
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Should've seen the initial reaction of when Crunchyroll went legitimate. Most people didn't even know what was going on.
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Posted 01-24-2009 at 06:45 AM by Asrialys
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