I replied to the PM, so after this post I'd prefer to continue it there.
Originally Posted by symbv
To be honest, I am very much put off by the suggestion that sales discussion should be separated into released titles and not yet released titles. Just imagine that now I need to talk about JoJo vol.1 performance in the other thread, and then 10 days later I need to switch it to this thread; and then the same needs to happen again one month later for vol.2, and so on.
While I can foresee some (limited) situations where the split could be cumbersome, I don't think it'll be a common problem. What you describe would be annoying if it were a daily occurrence - but it's not really how we discuss sales here, or how I've seen them discussed anywhere. Sure you might say something about Jojo Vol. 2 now, and again after it gets released, but it's very likely that they'll be two different kinds of comments, with no direct continuity between each other, and there will be no real need for anyone to have read the first post to understand the latter. Now I'm sure we could dream up hypothetical situations where it would
be an issue, but that's very different from realistic posting scenarios. I think they're by and large two different kinds of discussions.
What they need should be a newsletter thread that gives only results. A sales thread should allow discussion of all titles, released or not.
There are logistical problems with this, such as how to structure the direct replies to the data. If someone has to switch threads to post a reply to something said in another thread, that
is what would really discourage posting, I think. Splitting like this, while imperfect, at least keeps the source and continuation of a discussion together in ways having a data only thread could not.
As for the motives, the "purists" are established community members I've known for a long time, in some cases for many years, so that carries some weight (I've heard from others beyond the two posts here as well). I know they're not just complaining for the sake of complaining like anonymous trolls on a blog post. I wouldn't have paid any attention if that were the case. This also isn't the first time this request has been made either (though it was made better this time, or maybe I just understood it better). I don't think there are any villains here, just maybe some exaggerated arguments at worst.
Again, I'm not convinced of the necessity
of this change, however I am convinced of its reasonableness
, and that the negative effects are very small, and that there are some potential advantages too. I really do think Mania is a small enough community that we should be able to make it work with minimal friction.
In any case it's 1AM and I reallllllly need to go to bed if I'm going to be up in a few hours to get the sales data (and uh, be conscious at work) so I'll check for PMs later, but you might just want to sleep on it too (granted I have no idea what time it is where you are.
). I think it'll work out.