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Does anyone know when the last weeks sales will be out?
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Does anyone know when the last weeks sales will be out?
I was wondering about that here but I don't think anyone has a definite answer yet. Even Oricon's homepage (which shows a limited daily ranking) hasn't updated since 12/26. Nothing in the 2ch threads yet either. I have a feeling we might just end up skipping right to the full list this week, maybe over the weekend.
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Amazon isn't even accepting orders for GirlPan v1 now. Not 1-2 months, or February, or whatever - it's just not even available.

It's still in the top 10, but I have to imagine it'll finally start dropping soon (Edit: dropped to 11 since I posted this). Hard to stay one of the current best sellers when you're not currently being sold. Hopefully they'll restock once they start filling older orders in a month.

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Old 01-04-2013, 12:29 AM
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http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime4vip/1350802208/
We're supposed to get a DVD Top 500 and BD Top 200 later, but last year it came out January 27th so there's another month to wait, assuming anyone can get their hands on it at all this year. For the record, last year the thresholds were 9,989 for DVD 500 and a little under 8,340 for BD 200. I expect BD to be higher this year.
http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ani...802208/572-573

And here's a bit more. This is from the Animation-only DVD/BD Top 50.

Steins Gate v8 +760 BDs, total 15,000. Final average: 16,620

Top wo Nerae BD Box +1780, total 14,770

K-ON! Movie +765 LE DVD, +1471 RE DVD, total 165,784

KuroBas v1 +314 DVDs, total 23,975.
v2 +307 DVDs, total 23,982.
v5 +426 DVDs, total 21,824.

Still waiting on All-genre DVD Top 500 and BD Top 200 later this month.
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Guy who gets me my anime says that the post office is closed until the 6th, and if post offices are closed then it's only natural to assume that mostly everything else is as well.
Well, the stock market will open on Jan 4th, as are the banks and many shops. In fact, I just checked the Post Office website and many of its offices are open even during new year! (all the insurance and pension sections will be closed until Jan 3rd but for post service many offices will open over the new year) http://www.jp-network.japanpost.jp/services/newyear/ http://www.jp-network.japanpost.jp/s.../pdf/01_04.pdf In short, Jan 4th is NOT a public holiday but a working day, which has been the case for all the years I have been living in Japan.
I work with professional native Japanese (in country) translators for part of my job. I have extra time for my current technical reviews this week because they are off until Monday so some workplaces at least have taken the whole week off.

This is why I don't find the Miniskirt Space Pirates LNs too technical for reading... In fact it is the high school romance manga which I find challenging at times, the engineering terms aren't as difficult as some of the shoujo love, fashion and hairstyle terms LOL

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http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ani...1350802208/577

Finally got through 12/29 for the daily rankings. No data for the 30th yet but a Sunday isn't going to change anything.

Weekly ranking comes out in 24 hours or so, plus however long it takes to get posted on 2ch.

DVD Daily Previous week
24 25 26 27 28 29
*5 18 18 *5 *7 11 [**,***] Kuroko no Basuke Fandisc
13 ** 24 ** 26 27 [**,***] ONE PIECE Log Collection "BROOK"
12 30 25 ** 28 28 [**,***] ONE PIECE Log Collection "OHZ"
22 ** ** 25 ** ** [**,***] Kuroko no Basuke v6

BD Daily Previous week
24 25 26 27 28 29
11 ** ** 19 ** ** [*2,492] Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon II v4 [week 2]

DVD Daily 12/26 releases
24 25 26 27 28 29
** 13 13 12 12 17 [*5,859] Sword Art Online v3
** 16 ** ** ** ** [*2,704] Hellsing OVA v10

BD Daily 12/26 releases
24 25 26 27 28 29
** *1 *2 *2 *1 *3 [24,786] Sword Art Online v3
** 13 10 12 15 *7 [*4,950] Dog Days' v4
** *3 *8 *5 12 10 [**,***] Little Busters! v1
** *5 12 16 10 12 [**,***] Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb v1
** *7 13 14 16 16 [*6,403] Accel World v6
** *8 ** ** ** 17 [*2,462] Hellsing OVA v10
** 11 17 20 ** ** [*3,797] Aquarion Evol v9
** 19 ** ** ** ** [*2,533] Campione v4
** 20 ** ** ** ** [**,***] Busou Shinki v1

DVD Daily 12/28 releases
24 25 26 27 28 29
** ** ** *6 13 20 [**,***] Kami-sama Hajimemashita v1
** ** ** 21 ** ** [**,***] To Aru Majutsu no Index II DVD Box
** ** ** 22 ** ** [**,932] Shirokuma Cafe v6
** ** ** 28 ** ** [*1,101] Hyouka v7

BD Daily 12/28 releases
24 25 26 27 28 29
** ** ** *1 *8 13 [*7,236] Hyouka v7
** ** ** 11 19 ** [**,***] Kami-sama Hajimemashita v1
** ** ** 10 ** ** [**,***] Strike Witches 2 BD Box RE
** ** ** 13 ** ** [*1,271] Upotte!! v5

GirlPan didn't rank at all this week, which is unsurprising given it being totally sold out and BD only covering the daily top 20. We might still get some kind of second week number for it, but it'll be fairly low if so.

Little Busters and Hidamari Sketch were both ahead of Accel World every day except for Hidamari being down two spots one day. Both should therefore definitely sell more on BD and probably similar on DVD, meaning neither is likely to be below 7k first week unless DVDs don't chart. Yay.

Kami-sama Hajimemashita is looking to do somewhat decently. Compared to Sukinayo and Kaibutsu-kun anyway. First volume is discounted and comes with an event ticket app though. Could be a big drop to v2.

Still hope Chuunibyou gets a second week, but this is a pretty rough week to be trying for one. Go go monthly rankings.

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Amazon isn't even accepting orders for GirlPan v1 now. Not 1-2 months, or February, or whatever - it's just not even available.

It's still in the top 10, but I have to imagine it'll finally start dropping soon (Edit: dropped to 11 since I posted this). Hard to stay one of the current best sellers when you're not currently being sold. Hopefully they'll restock once they start filling older orders in a month.
Did you see the used prices? Starts at ¥12500!!!
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Did you see the used prices? Starts at ¥12500!!!
Yeah, it's hard to believe people would be dumb enough to pay that when it will be back in stock eventually, but I guess some people really do.
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Default Original Anime, 2010-2012

The success of GirlPan and some comments on 2ch got me thinking about how the past few years have been pretty successful for original anime.

Looking just at prime time and late night anime, the last three years look like this:

Original (n=40)
*8,402 Average (closest, Hanasaku Iroha)
*4,828 Median (between Symphogear and Tamayura)
**,361 Minimum (Heroman)
71,057 Maximum (Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica)
22.5% (9) have averaged 2k or less
15.0% (6) have averaged 10k or more
10.0% (4) have averaged 20k or more

Adaptations (n=213)
*5,570 Average (closest, Hakuouki Reimeiroku)
*2,678 Median (KoiChoco)
**,*** Minimum (various)
60,527 Maximum (Nisemonogatari)
39.0% (83) have averaged 2k or less
14.1% (30) have averaged 10k or more
*5.2% (11) have averaged 20k or more

Adaptations, removing unranked titles (n=194)
*6,115 Average (closest, Motto To Love-Ru)
*3,098 Median (between Asobi ni Iku yo and Nazo no Kanojo X)
**,302 Minimum (Natsuyuki Rendezvous)
60,527 Maximum (Nisemonogatari)

So even if you're very generous to adaptations and remove the 0s, which gives it the advantage of being able to shed its lowest performers from the average (original has no completely unranked titles thus it doesn't benefit), original anime is performing quite well.

Average sales are clearly significantly higher, but so are (more importantly in my opinion) median sales, so it's not just Madoka skewing the average and only slightly more than half as many original anime are total sub-2k bombs.

Madoka is mostly offset by Nisemonogatari anyway, and adaptations can count both seasons of Fate/Zero in their corner, which handily beats original's #2 and #3 (Angel Beats and Anohana). The original anime list isn't even benefiting from Gundam 00 or Macross Frontier numbers because I set the cutoff at 2010. In fact the only Gundam represented is AGE, one of the (or just the?) worst performing Gundam series ever. And original doesn't have Girls und Panzer's full strength recorded yet either. So original anime has a deep bench, not just one or two superstars.

Now to an extent, original anime would be in trouble if it weren't leading. Adaptations can get by with less because the manga, novels, games etc are a revenue stream original anime either doesn't have or can't rely on as much.

But I think a roughly 2k median sales lead, which is a 36-45% advantage depending on which adaptation count you use, plus significantly less full-out flops, demonstrates that original late night anime is entirely viable. Especially since for a long time, we kept hearing that original anime was just too risky, which seemed to be reinforced by the sales flops at the start of this period in the much-discussed Anime no Chikara block (Sora no Woto did fine [4k], but Occult Gakuin [1.8k] and Night Raid [0.6k] did terribly).

Original only makes up 16% of the 253 productions counted here though, which implies that even with recent successes, it's still seen to carry some risk. The vetting process for what makes it as an original anime is going to be stricter, for sure, but maybe that's why home video success comes more often.

Edit: For the record, simplified stats for 2005-2009:
Original - 4,092 average; 882 median; n=100
Adaptations - 3,936 average; 1,749 median; n=405

0s not removed, didn't take the time to limit to late night and prime-time but most of what I track is that anyway. Original had no advantage in average, only had half the median. 00/Geass/Frontier are just about the only reason it's competitive on average at all. It did make up a slightly higher percentage of shows at about 1/5th instead of 1/6th. Either way, the past three years have been much kinder to original anime relative to adaptations than '05-'09.

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That was an interesting read.

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