Anime Sales in Japan - 2012

[ultimatemegax]

Originally Posted by Damius

That's what I was expecting... I was hoping for some reasons it could be when I ordered... Because, for series like Mouretsu for example, since the Vol. is released at the start of the month, the copy I buy never showed up on sales number... It is yet another inconvenient that Amazon JP doesn't do partial shipments anymore...

I wouldn't worry about that. Distributors/production companies have their own records which matter more than the Oricon numbers we get. As long as you know you ordered it and supported the show, that's all that matters.

[something]

Originally Posted by ultimatemegax

Most likely October when it'll ship. If they sent numbers when it was ordered, there's way to correct that if you cancelled that order between now and when it shipped.

I'd always wanted some direct confirmation of this too, for preorders in my case. I mean, will a preorder that still stands at release day be counted even if the order is being held reasons of S&H policy? My guess has always been yours, that it's only reported the week it's shipped out/charged.

And in that case, anything I buy doesn't come out at the end of the month doesn't count towards the Oricon totals (so +1 all Mouretsu volumes [+2 for v5] for eample!). Essentially the only Oricon numbers that would count my purchase are most final week releases, and occasional preceding week releases if they get a second week. Bit of a shame, but of course the "importers who had their items held a few weeks" group is going to account for a tiny portion of any release.

[Damius]

Originally Posted by ultimatemegax

I wouldn't worry about that. Distributors/production companies have their own records which matter more than the Oricon numbers we get. As long as you know you ordered it and supported the show, that's all that matters.

Of course, that said, it brings another question. Since every companies have their own records, who are willing to pay for the Oricon numbers? Since it is so expensive...

[something]

Originally Posted by Damius

Of course, that said, it brings another question. Since every companies have their own records, who are willing to pay for the Oricon numbers? Since it is so expensive...

Anyone who needs to do market research. Knowing how you're selling is one thing (and yes, a distributor will have the real sales data, Oricon is just the best source we can access) but you'll also want to know how others in the industry are selling.

[ultimatemegax]

Originally Posted by something

Anyone who needs to do market research. Knowing how you're selling is one thing (and yes, a distributor will have the real sales data, Oricon is just the best source we can access) but you'll also want to know how others in the industry are selling.

Echoing something's response: any distributor will have their own real numbers, but not anyone else's. Oricon's numbers allow them to generally compare what they're doing to the rest of the market and give a decent estimate to what's going on.

You're also looking at possible news sites like Mantan who'll subscribe to get numbers.

[ultimatemegax]

Considering we talk about novels in here from time to time and it doesn't fit in the Chu2koi anime thread, I figured this would be the best place to post this.

Suffice to say, the CM for Kyoukai no Kanata and the Chuunibyou Demo Koi ga Shitai! anime have already helped KyoAni tremendously. When the latter was first released in May 2011, it was sold in around 20-24 bookstores. The sequel (and Coppelia) wasn't many more bookstores. Kyoukai started in about 35-40. All of these include the KyoAni Shop!

As of today, there are a total of 349 bookstores in Japan that are carrying the full KA Esuma library (5 novels total). That is a huge increase and definitely worth what they've put in thus far. Here's hoping we see more added (including easier ways to ship internationally).

[something]

EnigmaticWarrior posted this in the GA thread for the Madoka movies, and while watching I noticed at one point that claim 600,000 units of DVDs and BDs sold for Madoka.

This is what we have from Oricon:
DVD: 61,406
BD: 364,936
Total: 426,342

So, approximately 71% coverage from the claimed 600k number.

I really should be centralizing all these bits of "Oricon reported sales vs distributor claimed shipments/sales" information. Maybe I'll try that...

[something]

This post is for keeping track of comparisons between what publishers/distributors claim in terms of sales (or shipments), and what percentage of that is covered by the available Oricon data. They'll be listed in alphabetical order, broken down according to however we get the distributor reports. Where we have multiple claimed numbers for different parts of a franchise, I've done a total and indented the individual claims underneath.

NOTE: Sold numbers will be lower than shipped numbers, so these data points are not all directly comparable, but they will provide good ballparks estimates. Where we have distributors specifically saying sold, it's been bolded.


Code Geass (partial: R1 DVD all, R1 BD v1-3, R2 both v1-3, DVD magazine, Recap v1)
　　*,408,296 - DVD, S1 vols. 1-9
　　*,*16,301 - BD, S1 vols. 1-3
　　*,*27,705 - DVD, S1 DVD Magazine
　　*,**8,342 - DVD, S1 recap disc v1
　　*,100,197 - DVD, S2 vols. 1-3
　　*,*50,134 - BD, S2 vols. 1-3
　　*,610,975 - Oricon total
　　1,000,000 - Claimed shipped (Source, 2008-10-24)
　　Oricon coverage: 61.1%
　　　　　　Note: Geass R2 and the BD version of R1 were only partially done when this announcement was made, so only titles released through this point were used in the comparison.

K-ON! series (!, !!, movie, events)
　　*,911,180 - Oricon
　　1,326,000 - Claimed sold (Sourced below)
　　Oricon coverage: 68.7%

　　K-ON!/!!/Events
　　　　*,*56,452 - DVD, !
　　　　*,250,731 - BD, !
　　　　*,*13,349 - DVD, Let's Go! event
　　　　*,*27,011 - BD, Let's Go! event
　　　　*,*42,280 - DVD, !!
　　　　*,312,186 - BD, !!
　　　　*,**8,421 - DVD, Come With Me!! event
　　　　*,*37,203 - BD, Come With Me!! event
　　　　*,747,633 - Oricon total
　　　　1,100,000 - Claimed sold (Source, 2011-11-06)
　　　　Oricon coverage: 68.0%

　　K-ON! Movie
　　　　*33,233 - DVD LE
　　　　*19,043 - DVD RE
　　　　107,533 - BD LE
　　　　**3,738 - BD RE
　　　　163,547 - Oricon total
　　　　226,000 - Claimed sold (Source, 2012-11-01, page 4 [Special note: 45,000 rental copies sold, not included in this number])
　　　　Oricon coverage: 72.3%
　　　　260,000 - Claimed shipped (Source, 2012-07-28)
　　　　Oricon coverage: 62.9%

Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica (TV)
　　*61,406 - DVD
　　364,936 - BD
　　426,342 - Oricon total
　　600,000 - Claimed shipped (Source, 2012-10-01 at 0:23 in)
　　Oricon coverage: 71.1%

Monogatari series (Bake, Bake BD Box, Nise)
　　*,140,718 - DVD, Bake
　　*,331,310 - BD, Bake
　　*,*31,553 - BD Box, Bake
　　*,*42,660 - DVD, Nise
　　*,256,775 - BD, Nise
　　*,803,016 - Oricon total
　　1,000,000 - Claimed shipped (Source, 2012-09-24)
　　Oricon coverage: 80.3%

Suzumiya Haruhi series (partial: 2006, BD Box, Shoushitsu, Gekisou)
　　*,533,897 - Oricon
　　1,050,000 - Claimed (Sourced below)
　　Oricon coverage: 50.8%

　　Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 2006/Events
　　　　321,165 - DVD LE, 2006
　　　　*15,238 - DVD RE, 2006 (estimate ~1,600 for vols. 3, 5, 6, and 7)
　　　　*28,584 - DVD Gekisou event
　　　　364,987 - Oricon total
　　　　800,000 - Claimed sold[?] (Source: Chou Gekkan Haruhi Newtype magazine, 2009-05)
　　　　Oricon coverage: 45.6%

　　Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu BD Box
　　　　34,000 - Oricon
　　　　50,000 - Claimed shipped (Source, 2010-11-29)
　　　　Oricon coverage: 68.0%

　　Suzumiya Haruhi no Shoushitsu
　　　　101,704 - BD LE
　　　　**2,030 - BD RE
　　　　*29,893 - DVD LE
　　　　**1,283 - DVD RE
　　　　134,910 - Total (Oricon)
　　　　200,000 - Claimed shipped (Official Fanbook - Suzumiya Haruhi no Kansoku, 2011-05)
　　　　Oricon coverage: 67.5%



[Thanks to ultimatemegax and bloo for additional information.]

[ultimatemegax]

Originally Posted by something

I've only just gotten this started, so please contribute any you have a source for, ideally with the date on which the source was effective so I can compare an equivalent Oricon number. I don't have the time to dig for more right now, so if you can just point me to a source, I'll include it when I get back to this. I know there was similar stuff for Haruhi BD box, Shoushitsu, part of Gundam Unicorn, etc.

Here's the obvious umx-Haruhi post:

Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu BD-Box:
34,000 - Oricon
50,000 - Claimed Shipped (source date:2010/11/29)
Oricon coverage: 68%

Suzumiya Haruhi no Shoushitsu:
101,704 - LE BD
**2,030 - RE BD
*29,893 - LE DVD
**1,283 - RE DVD
134,910 - Total (Oricon)
200,000 - Claimed (Official Fanbook - Suzumiya Haruhi no Kansoku date:2011/05)
Oricon coverage: 67%

[bloo]

Originally Posted by something

I've only just gotten this started, so please contribute any you have a source for, ideally with the date on which the source was effective so I can compare an equivalent Oricon number. I don't have the time to dig for more right now, so if you can just point me to a source, I'll include it when I get back to this. I know there was similar stuff for Haruhi BD box, Shoushitsu, part of Gundam Unicorn, etc.

I've got a couple for you, something:

(I'll rely on you to add the Oricon numbers)

K-ON (franchise not including movie)
1.1 million - Claimed (Source, 2011-11-06)

Haruhi (2006 airing)
530,000 - Claimed (Source, 2007-09-29)