3rd time isnt the charm.... .hack//legend of the twilight volume 3

same glitch AGAIN....the entire series is screwed up and as far as we know they wont fix it

got the dvd today, expected teh glitch but was hopeful that they would fix it

a big you suck to bandai

[Hayate Kurogane]

Yay! An entire series that none of my players will play! You rock, Bandai! I wonder if the DTS track for Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex volume 2 will be missing an audio channel, and the included OST will have misplaced track breaks? That would rock my world! Like, five and a half times or something! I can't wait! But, you know, the best thing ever would be defective Zeta Gundam discs! Just the thing to have as a showpiece in my collection! Remember to give the guys and gals at Ascent Media a bunch of extra money, because they so deserve it!

*drowns in own sarcasm*

[slerch666]

You've got to be f***ing kidding me! Man, this is such an anal rape of the fans it's ridiculous! They have 2 discs in the set that don't work right, why can't they just go through the process these 2 discs went through and figure out where Ascent f***ed up!!??

The only thing better would be if they shit in the DVD case and shipped it that way.

I actually emailed about this and the GitS problem last night... my .hack/S-Cry-Ed question went unanswered and my GitS question was answered by saying they weren't sure what the replacement process will be. Lovely, lovely Bandai.

[lorddream]

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same glitch AGAIN....the entire series is screwed up and as far as we know they wont fix it

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Somehow, this just doesn't surprise me a bit. The only tiny bright spot is that I didn't bother to order this disc after the problems with the first two. Still doesn't change the fact that I wanted to watch this series, and the only way that's going to happen is if I give in and buy a new player. [img]/images/graemlins/anger200.gif[/img]

I definitely will not be pre-ordering anything from Bandai after my .hack/Twilight experience.

[Hayate Kurogane]

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godofchaos said:
same glitch AGAIN....the entire series is screwed up and as far as we know they wont fix it

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Somehow, this just doesn't surprise me a bit.

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I guess, honestly, that I was expecting it as well. I think I almost would have been more frustrated if volume 3 wasn't defective.

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The only tiny bright spot is that I didn't bother to order this disc after the problems with the first two.

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When did you learn about the problem? Me, I crossed volumes 2 and 3 off my "to buy" list as soon as I yanked volume 1 out of my player.

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I definitely will not be pre-ordering anything from Bandai after my .hack/Twilight experience.

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I know I'm sure not anymore, either. This, plus GitS: SAC, has caused my consumer confidence level in Bandai to plummet steadily. It's just like ADV's boxes before the adoption of the "chipboard" designation: don't preorder, and let some other poor bastard find out for me. Maybe Bandai should adopt a similar designation, so that in the future, we know that when we see "Limited Bonus On-Disc Extra," for example, we can mentally convert that to "isn't worth a crap for people who own certain players, due to inexplicable incompetence during the authoring stage and an equally inexplicable lack of initiative by Bandai to prevent future occurrences of said incompetence."

[JeffDM]

I would appreciate if at least one other person can somehow test this DVD and confirm. I don't want to get too sloppy on this.

If this is true, I am switching to rentals for all new Bandai series.

I am personally not affected, but for something like this, I think I need to show some amount of solidarity. If we play this "I'm not affected, so I'm not bothered" game then some of those currently not affected may find little sympathy for them when they are hit with the same indifference.

The other series where one random volume had a problem was undesirable but having the exact same compatibility problem for three consecutive discs bites hard, with razor teeth.

Updated .H//LotT entry

[Hayate Kurogane]

Well, I shot off an e-mail via the form on their website. I explicitly stated that I did not want to be offered a replacement, so that might shake them up a bit, but I still don't expect to receive anything more than a standard form letter sort of response that doesn't really address the issue and therefore won't do me any damn good. In the meantime, I can guess. Will it be a "we try to make the discs as compatible as possible, but they still might not work in some players" response? Will it be a "we're looking into it (but we're not trying very hard)" reponse? Or will they really not pay bloody attention and send me a "mail your disc to this address and we will send you a replacement" response, despite my asking that they not try and brush me off that way? Who knows? Who really knows with Bandai?

I hope that Zeta is mis-authored somehow, although on a much wider scale. s-CRY-ed and .hack//LotT being defective on certain players wasn't enough. GitS: SAC being defective on all players wasn't enough. So maybe if the entire Zeta box set is FUBAR, then we'll see something happen.

One has to wonder why the companies keep returning to and using the same bad authoring houses over and over again. I guess they might have some kind of contract which entitles the authoring houses to encode all future DVDs for a set timeframe and they are afraid of having to breach it, but seriously, if the discs produced are defective half of the time then that in itself has to be a breach of contract by the authoring house. Obviously Bandai and others don't pay them to produce crap.

It's times like these I'm glad I'm a Geneon whore, as SpeeDVD is in my mind the absolutely best one of them all. I think I'm going to go for the UK editions of Stand Alone Complex, but I just hope Bandai can get their act together in time for Planetes.

[slerch666]

WOOOAAHHH horsey! You need to reign that in a little bit! [img]/images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif[/img] I'm angry too, but you sound like your head's gonna explode. As someone said to me before, it's not something you should get worked up over to the point it boils over.

With GitS, they are fixing the problem, they just don't know what the process for getting replacements out is going to be as the disc is ready yet.

They supposedly have an outside company looking into the problems with S-Cry-Ed 4 and both the other .hack//lott discs. Does this simply mean... 'we'll tell you someone is looking into it so we can get you to STFU.' or does that mean the legitamately have someone looking into it? They claimed a 3rd party, not Ascent Media was running compatability tests on the disc, though after they released .hack//lott 1 they claimed they sent the disc out, don't you think, now, what, 6 months later they'd know SOMETHING?

Someone stated that Jerry's response at Otakon was 'it's a player problem and we aren't fixing it?' However, when I emailed and specifically asked about this problem, and only this problem one time after Otakon and received a reply that the 3rd party company is still looking at it.

What gives me absolutely no faith in them fixing these discs is that time and again they are releasing discs in a series with the same f***ing problem. I have little hope for future releases from Bandai.

With Zeta, being as 'expensive' as it is, I would hope they'd take that list of players I created when the problem first started and explicitly test on those players to make sure it works.

One thing that might be an issue is the menus. In lott all the menus are basically the same with little variation. Of course, I suppose the same could be said with S-Cry-Ed, so why did disc 4 have issues?

I received Wolf's Rain 2 yesterday, I'll pop it open tonight and see if it's got the same problem.

edit- I just realized, if this is the case and this disc is f***ed, that's the ENTIRE series that's been f***ed up. No future lott volumes to be worrying about the quality on. I think I'm going to call Bandai and find out what's going on.

[ic14]

Thank the lord i decided to wait for the r4 of this series [img]/images/graemlins/relief1.gif[/img]