Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Dub Discussion

[The Great Bear]

Originally Posted by Bermanism

Knowing Geneon, it is a non-union dub and saying this about SAG, she is probably a financial core member of SAG which would enable her to work in non-union projects. That would be the only logical possibility. I could see no reason why Geneon would unionize anything dubbed in LA unless it was to get a previously non-full-union SAG member who is now a full-union SAG member to reprise a very special role.

From how I read the blog entry, I'm not sure the "SAG film" she mentions has anything to do with the Nanoha dub. It sounds like it might be another project, one that is SAG sanctioned.

And so, it sounds like she is "financial core," and does non-SAG projects.

[Pachi]

Originally Posted by The Great Bear

From how I read the blog entry, I'm not sure the "SAG film" she mentions has anything to do with the Nanoha dub. It sounds like it might be another project, one that is SAG sanctioned.

And so, it sounds like she is "financial core," and does non-SAG projects.

Yeah, that SAG project is something else - it has nothing to do with Nanoha.

[Quarkboy]

FYI, they do not have significant, non-repetitive dialog.

Basically, they say the equivalent of "Welcome!" and "You've got mail!" and maybe 3 other things, all identically delivered and robotic sounding. Any and all emotions are expressed through various levels of glowiness or the weapon's jewel with no voice attached.

Basically the weapon's voices are really more sound effects than a performance.

[Kirbopher]

All I'll say, is that you guys shouldn't worry so much about this.

[The Great Bear]

Originally Posted by Quarkboy

Basically the weapon's voices are really more sound effects than a performance.

If that's the case, then they may very well just lift the Japanese track version. Perhaps find the cleanest (least affected by ambient sounds or score) version and just rinse and repeat as needed.

Though we know for certain that they aren't doing it for one of the weapons, so they may indeed redub all of them.

I'll be more than happy to find out what they chose to do when they release the show.

[PatrickSeitz]

Originally Posted by The Great Bear

Why do English dubs redub critters?

Because what comes out of a person's mouth is shaded and influenced by their linguistic environment, and generally speaking, you're going to be able to tell the difference between a native English-speaker meowing, barking, saying phrases in a foreign language et cetera, and a native Japanese-speaker voicing the same sounds and phrases.

[The Great Bear]

Originally Posted by PatrickSeitz

Because what comes out of a person's mouth is shaded and influenced by their linguistic environment, and generally speaking, you're going to be able to tell the difference between a native English-speaker meowing, barking, saying phrases in a foreign language et cetera, and a native Japanese-speaker voicing the same sounds and phrases.

Oh, I kind of knew that I was just challenging another poster.

But as a director yourself, hypothetically, had you been in charge of the Nanoha dub, would you just sample the Japanese voices for the weapons, or would you redub them?

I'm betting you'd redub them. No matter how well the Japanese seiyuu pronounced the English words, it would still sound like a Japanese person trying to speak English (unless they can speak English without a discernible accent). But that's not how it would have come across to the original audience, and so to replicate that "lack of noticing an accent," it'd probably be best to redub, wouldn't it?

[Quarkboy]

But in this case the voices of the weapons ARE native english speakers (who just happen to live and work in japan). So while your comments are correct for say, pokemon, they don't apply here, anyway.

e.g. seiyuu for "raging heart" : http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ency...le.php?id=5031

australian, but still native english.

And yes, I don't really care one way or the other . But it makes for interesting discussion.

[Shiroi Hane]

Originally Posted by The Great Bear

No matter how well the Japanese seiyuu pronounced the English words, it would still sound like a Japanese person trying to speak English (unless they can speak English without a discernible accent).

Nanoha and Fate's weapons were voiced by Donna Burke (the radio announcer in Hoshi no Koe) and Kevin J England, both native English speakers (although it appears they didn't get much say on the script..)

[The Great Bear]

Originally Posted by Shiroi Hane

Nanoha and Fate's weapons were voiced by Donna Burke (the radio announcer in Hoshi no Koe) and Kevin J England, both native English speakers (although it appears they didn't get much say on the script..)

I see that now. Yet an American dub director might still prefer to redub the roles. If the script was "Engrish," that in itself might be enough to prompt a redub, as the English could be corrected for a native audience. And the dub director might want to put his/her own mark on the entire dub, and not just work with what he's/she's already been given. There are many reasons to expect a redub, and not just a port of what's on the Japanese track, even if it's in "English."