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Barker Talks Saint Sinner

By Michael Mason     June 19, 2002

Clive Barker talked with SCI FI Wire about the production of the Saint Sinner movie based on his Marvel/Epic comic of the same name. Barker spoke about the initial concept for the project, saying, "The notion was to create something that would be genuinely scary, but would also have a lot of style to it. I wanted to do something that would have a little metaphysics going for it as well."

The movie features two villainesses, demons named Munkar and Nakir (played by actresses Mary Mara and Rebecca Harrell, respectively) who are followed into the present time by a monk, Brother Tomás (played by Greg Serano), who accidently released them. The setup allows for some interesting possibilities. "The fun of that lies not only in the fact that the demons are appearing in our time, and that they therefore have to learn about what this world is really like," Barker said, "But also that we have a chance to create two villainesses. When you get two Lady Macbeths, if you will, together, they can be some real fun.

"Even in the title, we're playing with some pretty heavy ideas. And that very much fits with the novels I've written and the movies I've been involved in. ... Because the monsters are treated very seriously, whether they are human monsters or inhuman monsters, they linger in people's imaginations perhaps longer than if the tongue is in the cheek ... I think something that horror movies have always had to offer audiences, particularly young audiences, has been this idea that you can tell these primal tales, which really have some authority to them as tales of good and evil...

"When [Tomás] speaks of God and faith and death and, in the end, redemption, [21st-century people] sort of roll their eyes. In fact, those are things which we're all in our hearts concerned about, I think. We sort of lost the vocabulary along the way. We're embarrassed by the vocabulary. And one of the things that horror stories have always allowed us to do is brush off that vocabulary, allow us to return to the notion of absolute good and absolute evil. The notion of redemption. The notion of deeds that are too terrible to be recounted except in whispers, and how they can be made good. And those sorts of ideas, in a curious way, are more pertinent since a certain event than ever. We've seen these terrible things going on in our world, and we have little but a secular response to it, and that's perhaps regrettable."


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