BATTLESTAR set visit and Olmos Interview

I've have to disagree that this type of show hasn't been seen or done since Blade Runner. That's a stretch while there haven't been as many as we would like to see.

What about Babylon 5 (Very character driven), Space: Above and Beyond (Also character driven), and Farscape (which became character driven).

Just to summarize, there are shows that focus on the characters more than just this one.

He totally left out Star Trek Voyager.

//sarcasm

Iracors I never watched those you named cept an episode of farscape. It was kinda campy for me. Space above and beyond I vaguely remember but I remember watching I just dont remember the shows lol
Was babylon 5 that good? I rent it if it was.

spideybd80,

I found it hard to get into Farscape at first. I was very resistant. But I am so glad I did. If you are going to rent one of those three shows, it's the one I would recommend without any reservations.

Babylon5 had a LOT going for it, too bad the main story conclusion at the end of the series was a lame cop-out like the Mission to Mars movie. Farscape seemed totally campy at 1st, but I got hooked on it after the series ended, and went back to watch the entire series, GREAT entertainment. The new BSG is good for the most part, 2nd season has NOT been spectacular, but it has promise. As for ST:Voyager, at least it was better than Enterprise, but hey, what isn't better than that? hehe.

Glen Larson speaks out against SFC's molesting his BSG source material!

‘Battlestar Galactica’ returns
But fans of original are wary of remake


Updated: 1:15 p.m. ET Dec. 9, 2003

A few years ago, fans thought they’d get the continuation saga they’d clamored for when Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto, the director-writer team behind “X-Men,” hooked up with original “Galactica” creator Glen Larson to develop a project at 20th Century Fox.
When that deal fell through, Universal TV chief David Kissinger brought in executive producer David Eick and Moore to rework the franchise for Sci Fi.
“We want the fans to embrace what we are doing,” says Sci Fi President Bonnie Hammer, “but if you produced now what was produced then, it would feel like old TV. We wanted to make it more relatable, even in terms of the stereotypes of characters.”
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“I understand they’re trying to do a modern version,” says Larson. “But change for the sake of change — it’s taking the title and exploiting it.”
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Ronald Moore booed at 25th BSG anniversary convention

NBC/Universal, which owns the franchise, ultimately went with a new version of the "Battlestar" saga, which, like the old series, follows the last vestiges of humanity through space as they try to elude attacks from a mechanized race called the Cylons.

Despite this tangled history, when Ronald D. Moore, creator of the new "Battlestar," finally met Hatch in person, the two hit it off.

Hatch had invited Moore to show footage of the new mini-series at a 2003 convention celebrating the 25th anniversary of the original series. To say that the old-school "Battlestar" fans in the audience were a tough crowd is an understatement.

"There was hostility," Moore recalls with a rueful laugh. "I was booed."

When things got too testy during Moore's Q&A session, Hatch stepped in, a gesture the veteran of "Carnivale" and "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" appreciated.

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Why most sci fi fantasy fans hate Ronald Moore

However, many have a problem with Ron Moore for the key role he played in writing "Star Trek Generations," which many consider to be the turning point of Trek, essentially the franchise killer, though it was to be a slow death over time.

One of the biggest fan "movements" of modern Trek stems from the frustration over the ridiculously mediocre and meaningless death of Kirk, an icon of American pop-culture. Again, Moore played a key role in this.

Moore has been attached with much mediocrity. Star Trek Generations. Mission Impossible 2.

My own look at TNG episodes reveals (IMHO, of course) that most of the really good episodes with Moore's name on them are co-written with other writers, and than many of the scripts with only Moore's name on them are pretty mediocre. Haven't looked at the DS9 episode credits in the same way.

Add to that Moore's role in the remake of BSG when for more than two decades both the BSG fan base and actors have been clamoring for a continuation.

Top that with Moore's uncommon arrogance in claiming to reinvent an entire genre with a remake of an old TV show.

Gene Roddenberry never claimed that he was doing anything remarkable. He was just happy to do what he wanted to do, as best he could, while occassionally putting one over on the networks who didn't catch some of the messages he wanted to convey. George Lucas never thought that Star Wars would revitalize and change a genre and an industry, he was just happy to tell the story he wanted to tell. Very few creative types who declare their own work revolutionary will produce anything that truly is.

So, to his critics Moore has been involved in the two most contentious bad decisions in two of science fiction television's biggest franchises ever, as well as engaging in more than his share of mediocre TV and movies.

As for BSG, what Moore claims is revolutionary is really just taking SF TV further from it's roo

roots and potential. All he is doing it is placing the SF in the background to make character drama in space, with the whining, maladjusted, psychologically disoriented, unrealistically, dysfunctionally flawed characters that seem to be popular as a current entertainment fad. How drama cliche's translate to revolutionary SF, I don't know.

I think Moore would do fine in straight drama, maybe as a staff writer for ER or some cop show, but his sensibilties are all wrong for Trek, BSG and SF.

And did I mention all the mediocrity?

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Battlestar Galactica
Written by 12-28-2002 by EdwardHavens


article-topic-5.htmlAs a work of science fiction, this re-imagined "Galactica" miniseries-cum-pilot runs hot and cold. There are genuine moments of excellent writing within the piece. Sadly, these moments are few and far between. For the most part, Mr. Moore has overthought his re-imagining of the show to bring us a jumbled mess of cliches, dime store psychology and the general feel of a show that wants to be more than it can be. If some reports are to be believed, this version seems to exist solely so the Sci-Fi Channel and Universal can keep their rights to the concept from reverting back to series creator Glen A. Larson. From the way this script reads, I can see how this is a distinct possibility. This new Galactica might not become as bad as the never-released "Fantastic Four" movie from Roger Corman's company several years ago, but that film's failure to even get released straight to video should be a shining example to the producers of this show of what can happen when you try to lowball a high-concept idea.

But honestly, is it really that big a deal that Starbuck and Boomer have changed genders? Not really. There is little chance any male actor could match the bravado of Dirk Benedict in the original series, so making the character female could be an interesting choice. However, there is nothing specifically feminine about the new Starbuck, so there is really no reason to make the character female either. Boomer does show some maternalistic qualities when she picks up young Boxey as one of the survivors of the destruction of Caprica City, but any female character could have shown the same instincts. If there aren't any compelling reasons to make a change, that change shouldn't be made.

In the end, this could be a good new show... provided there was some intense rewriting and the removal of any remaining evidence of Galactica. Galactica fans have kept the faith alive for almost a quart