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Tevii 12/17/2010 11:33:31 AM

I hate to agree with F-ing racists because I am in no way shape or form a racist, F the CCC. But, it is getting old that they keep changing so many white characters to black characters. This is in fact a form of racism. There is no reason to not just simply create new black characters, there is plenty of room for that.

Some are saying its racist that they made Green Lantern white.... UNTIL they find out HE BEGAN white. People should stick to that SAME thought pattern and realize MAKING him black and other characters black in the first place was the actual racism.

Here is a SHORT list of former white characters which became black at some point. 
Aqualad, Firestorm, Mr. Terrific, Tattoo Man, Green Lantern, Nighthawk, Captain America, Heimdall, Iron Man, Nick Fury Agent of SHIELD,  Karate Kid, Catwoman, Ben Grimm's girlfriend Alicia in the Fantastic Four movies, Kojak, The Honeymooners, Cant Buy Me Love (Love Dont Cost a Thing).

Why take away something rather than just add to it. For Example: I love Tempest so why do I have to lose Tempest for Aqualad. I can never relate to being black, just as they blacks can never relate to being white. I would be furious if they changed Shaft to white. I was pissed when they made Terry Fitgerald white in the Spawn movie. CHANGING THE EXISTING CHARACTERS IS STUPID.

Why should an existing fan base have to lose something? They could have just as easily added Black Manta's kid without having to name him Aqualad. We could all be happy. And why is it okay to identify racism against any group, except when it is racist against whites? Thats also a form of racism. And I find it racist that the black community has to get second-hand, hand me down characters.

Wiseguy 12/17/2010 12:28:18 PM

I disagree with you Tevii to a degree. Without running down a list, I'm ok with changing some characters. To be honest, the more iconic they are to me the less I want to see them changed. I'm ok with this here.

And I don't think having a black version of any character is taking anything away. Black Nick Fury doesn't change who white Nick Fury is. John Stewart doesn't affect Hal Jordan. Isaiah Bradley's story adds to the Capt. America story IMO, especially since they're adding some stuff that we now know our govt. did in the past in real life. Having Heimdall as black in a world already inhabited by different races and species isn't a big deal to me. Hell Hogun isn't white and is drawn as asian.

Anyway this is one of those debates that can go on forever and has or should I say is.

Heck, whites took Jesus and made him white :)

ElBaz13 12/17/2010 12:58:18 PM

Good news for Marvel fans. I can't wait for this one as I collected the Alias series and loved it. My only beef was when it became Alias-lite (The Pulse, a PG version of Alias). I loved the MAX series more and would think this would be an HBO series over ABC. But the thing I wonder is how much Marvel U can they use in this show?

silversurfer 12/17/2010 1:03:31 PM

We're talking about FICTIOUS characters, and the interpretation of those characters can be changed; to a degree. I agree that Iconic characters such as Captain America should stay as they are.

SarcasticCaveman 12/17/2010 1:48:11 PM

I don't care enough about Heimdall to care that they made him black with crazy colored eyes...does that make me culturally or religiously intolerant?  I'd like to think not.  Bottom line, Heimdall was part of the Norse pantheon, and we all imagine our gods in our own image, so of course he would have always been portrayed as a VERY white guy.  I don't recall many people throwing a fit over Morgan Freeman playing Yahweh.

SarcasticCaveman 12/17/2010 2:01:24 PM

Although my favorite portrayal of God is on South Park, where He's some kind of Hippo-monkey-turtle with wings...cracks me up.

And yeah, if done right, a TV show based on the Alias comic would be awesome.  I always liked the comic also.

Wyldstaar 12/17/2010 2:12:56 PM

CapAmerica04, Sam Jones left Smallville to do the feature film Glory Road.  It's not surprising that you didn't know this, since nobody went to go see it (I had to look it up on IMDB).  Since then he has barely worked at all in the industry.

LocoLobo73 12/17/2010 2:58:49 PM

Ok so as far as the white to black character thing , Tevii , your argument would be better if you where actually talking about a particular character such as Nick Fury , which sure your arguement fits, but besides fury the only other person you mentioned was Alica from the Fantastic Four,oh yeah and Spawn but to be honest he was Black who was brought back as a white man,  all the other characters you mentioned just assumed the mantel or were recruited into the The orginization, like the Green lantern Corp, and the NightHawks, these are not any particular person its a force, Captain America, like wise said testing on african americans was a common thing amongest the military.

Tevii 12/17/2010 3:20:38 PM

Of course  you can tell a story to explain all of this. Every character with good writing can explain why they become black.  I already love Aqualads origin, its great.

I have an issue with the fact that they have to do it that way at all. WHY have a black and white Nick Fury? For the sake of being diverse?  They couldbve just as easily brought on the black guy and he was friend of Nick Fury. So wouldnt it be easier to just call them something else, rather than replace the existing character.  It would be smart to just INCORPORATE the DC ICONIC characters into the regular DC universe. They are black characters. Why is it a separate universe? Its stupid and its racist.

Why does Aqualad HAVE to be Aqualad.... WE HAVE AQUALAD.... Make him something else so there is no racial controversey. Because they did it this way before and it was them trying to be diverse, thats why a whole geneartion who grew up wih JLA thinks GL was black to begin with. Superfriends did it better, they wanted a diverse group, so instead of Red Tornado they CREATED the Samurai.... A NEW CHARACTER, AN ETHNIC CHARACTER, AND NO RACIAL CONTROVERSY.

And the Nighthawk I was refering to was from Supreme Power. (Squadron Supreme) and this goes beyond comics and into movies  (Kojak, The Honeymooners, Cant Buy Me Love, Karate Kid)

I just think this ends up causing a rift when they did this originally to close that same rift.

joeybaloney 12/17/2010 3:59:19 PM

That Sky Cake bit was hilarious SarcasticCaveman!

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