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Box Office: Disney's MUSICAL Victorious, Lionsgate Banks with SAW V

By Jarrod Sarafin     October 26, 2008


Scott Patterson must escape a horrible trap in SAW V(2008).
© Lionsgate

 

We knew High School Musical 3: Senior Year would win this box office weekend due to pre-sales and the teen-focused hype machine coming out of Disney so the film launching into theaters with $42.0 million isn’t surprising. In fact, a lot of people were expecting even more cash for the singing teenagers. But it’s yet another major success for the studio no matter how high the expectations. As the usual with these kinds of productions, costs were low and profits will be high. HSM 3 cost only $11 million to make and it has a domestic gross of $42.0 mil after only three days at the box office.
The big story for this weekend should be the long lasting and profitable Saw franchise out of Lionsgate. Every time, this franchise pulls in some cash for the studio due to their very low budgets. Five years in a row with five box office wins even if they didn’t grab the top spot every time in their debuts as this year proves. The original Saw opened in theaters on October 24, 2004 and grabbed $18.2 million with a budget of only $1.2 mil. Saw II came out a year later with a budget of only $4 million. It would go on to gross $31.7 million in its first three days.
Saw III, with a budget of only $10, opened in theaters a year later with a $33.6 mil in October 2006. Last year, the fourth film debuted with a $31.7 million opening for Lionsgate.
See the trend here? No matter how low scores the films get from some critics, it’s a very profitable franchise for the studio. Most franchises usually fail sooner or later as more and more sequels hit theaters. But with Saw V only having to overcome a $10.8 million budget, the studio saw itself in the profit margins by the end of Friday afternoon, with the fifth film pulling in $14.1 million on its first day of release. The extra $16.0 million from Saturday and Sunday was icing on Lionsgate’s early Halloween celebration cake. And so is any future box office receipts and its eventual DVD income.
In summary, the five Saw films have cost around $40 million to make altogether. And the films have pulled in $585.3 million worldwide since first hitting theaters five years ago. We’re not even talking about the DVD revenue after the fact.
Take note studios. As long as you keep your budgets very low, you can always continue to produce profitable horror films no matter how tired the genre could seem. John Carpenter produced a little known horror film called Halloween on a budget of just $320,000 and we can see how successful that has been over the years.
The rest of this box office is same as usual. The top two films grossed at least $30 million. The final eight films couldn’t manage $8 million.
20th Century Fox had a 56% drop with Max Payne in its second weekend but again, due to a relatively small $35 million budget, the film isn’t doing half bad for those executives. It pulled in another $7.6 million this weekend on its 3,381 theaters across the nation and now has a domestic gross of $29.6 million after ten days at the box office. They’ve also opened it oversea with the film pulling in another $6.9 mil making for a worldwide gross of $36.5 million. The studio has their budget price tag at just $35 million.
Beverly Hills Chihuahua, the other October release for Walt Disney, is also a success with the film barking up the 4th place with a weekend tally of $6.9 million. While the studio has released no budget, their $78.1 million domestic gross has to be over the budget line. It too is also doing well overseas thus far with a foreign gross of $14.2 million. All told, the talking dogs have grossed $92.4 million worldwide after four weekends of release.
Coming into 5th place is the final debuting wide release of this weekend, Warner Bros.’ Pride & Glory. The studio opened it up in 2,585 theaters this weekend and wound up with $6.3 million in sales receipts. Not the best opening for a film costing $30 million but let’s see how long it can stay in theaters but for accessing the damages here.
Taking up the 6th spot is Fox Searchlight drama The Secret Life of Bees with $5.9 million in sales. Again, the indie distributor kept the budget low at $11 million so its domestic gross of $19.2 million after only ten days of release has them in good territory.
Lionsgate also utilized the same low budget mentality with their release strategy for Oliver Stone’s W. production. The film managed only 7th place for its second weekend with it pulling in another $5.3 million but due to its $25.1 mil budget, they don’t have far to go before they’re fine. After ten days in theaters, the film has a domestic gross of $18.7 million.
Former distribution partners Paramount and DreamWorks are still hanging in there with their D.J. Caruso film Eagle Eye managing $5.1 mil and 8th place this weekend. In five weeks of release, the film has pulled in $87.9 million domestically and another $44.8 million in foreign territories. Altogether, the film has a worldwide gross of $132.7 million and a budget of $80 mil.
The same success story can’t be said for Warner Bros. and director Ridley Scott with his latest film Body of Lies. Contributing to the whole “hands off middle-east storyline” box office poison out of Hollywood these days, the film grabbed 9th place with $4.0 million in its third weekend. Not very hopeful numbers for a film which cost $70 million and has only $30.8 million thus far. They have another $6.3 million overseas.
And the final spot goes to the other horror film out this month, Screen Gems’ Quarantine. The $12 mil-produced film scored another $2.5 mil this weekend and has $28.7 million domestically. Screen Gems has another moderate success on their hands after it’s all said and done.
 

Rank
Movie
Weekend
Theaters
Average
Total
Budget
1
High School Musical 3: Senior Year
$42.0 mil
3,623
$11,593
$42.0 mil
11
2
Saw V
$30.5 mil
3,060
$9,967
$30.5 mil
10.8
3
Max Payne
$7.6 mil
3,381
$2,248
$29.6 mil
35
4
Beverly Hills Chihuahua
$6.9 mil
3,190
$2,168
$78.1 mil
----
5
Pride & Glory
$6.3 mil
2,585
$2,447
$6.3 mil
30
6
The Secret Life of Bees
$5.9 mil
1,630
$3,641
$19.2 mil
11
7
W.
$5.3 mil
2,050
$2,600
$18.7 mil
25.1
8
Eagle Eye
$5.1 mil
2,558
$2,008
$87.9 mil
80
9
Body of Lies
$4.0 mil
2,150
$1,891
$30.8 mil
70
10
Quarantine
$2.5 mil
2,228
$1,145
$28.7 mil
12

 
On Halloween day, audiences have two new wide choices and some expanding options. Another horror film or Kevin Smith’s latest comedy Zack and Miri Make a Porno, though the latter film is getting 800 more prints and has the biggest shot of winning over The Haunting of Molly Hartley.
Clint Eastwood’s Changeling is getting an expansion next weekend with 1,800+ more theaters after pulling in $502,000 this weekend on 15 theaters. Likewise, RockNRolla is finally getting their expansion after three weekends at the box office. The WB is expanding the Guy Ritchie film into 800+ more theaters next weekend.
Then again, it’s likely going to be HSM 3 again at the top spot unless they have a major drop with audiences.
Perhaps next year, the studios can bring about more horror films for their fans in a season which the genre should be winning normally.
 
Friday October 31, 2008 Releases:
Wide
Zack and Miri Make a Porno (3,000 theaters)
The Haunting of Molly Hartley (2,250 theaters)
Expanding
Changeling (1,800 more theaters)
RockNRolla (800 more theaters)
Limited
Eden Lake
Splinter
The Other End of the Line
The Matador
The First Basket

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Hobbs 10/26/2008 2:38:19 PM

Haven't seen a Saw movie since the 2nd one but you have respect the opening weekend for this 5th one.  Like Freddy, Jason, etc...we get sick of them and the numbers reflect that.  I'm shocked Saw 5 did this well...this means you'll have Saw 6 and more to come.  I have to give props where it is due. 

WISEGUY562 10/26/2008 3:11:21 PM

Saw 6 is already in the works, I remember seeing a contest to win a role or something in the movie.


Skipped everything this week. May catch Saw during the week if I feel the need for some gore but this seems to have jumped the shark as far as I'm concerned. And Pride and Glory's lukewarm reception and Colin FarrellĀ helped keep me away from that, I'll wait to rent it, maybe.


I have to give some of these execs props as well for at least keeping their budgets low for some of these films and making a profit. Especially the guys behind Saw. 11 million dollar budget after a fairly succesful run shows good discipline. It would be easy for them to get over-confident and start throwing money at it.


Really looking forward to The Changeling and Rocknrolla but will probably have to squeeze in Zack and Miri because of peer pressure. Friends, I tell you..


REDSKINS, baby

Stormbringer184 10/26/2008 4:11:03 PM

There is a show, on VH1 I believe, that is giving contestants a chance to win a walk-on role for Saw VI. I don't know any details though because I don't care and I'll just wait to see how the winner of the show dies once the film comes out next year.

Skipped the movies this week. Max Payne bore me last week even though I still liked the film, wanted more action. Anxious to see The Changeling and RocknRolla as well. Wouldn't mind checking out Saw VI though since I'm a fan of the series but I'm not fitting it into my schedule or anything. If some friends want to check it out and they hit me up I'll probably go. Too many similar cop movies coming out and none seem to interesting to go to the theater to check out so I'll wait to Netflix "Pride & Glory"

Sidenote: I just saw the trailer for Clint Eastwoods's next film "Gran Torino" (Director, Producer, Lead Actor) on apple.com and I CANNOT WAIT. Eastwood could be in a wheelchair and he will still kick your ass.

hanso 10/26/2008 4:13:27 PM

Saw 6 in the works?  Not only 6 but ya know they got 7 & 8 ready to go also.  I wonder what the drop off will come next week. 

What's sad is that Max Payne already recouped it's money so you know some crazy bastard might deem it a good idea to give us a sequel. 

They were running a song all week about the Skins with a Kanye West beat to it.  Forgot what song it was, the chorus went "Lions..smashing"

drumshine 10/26/2008 10:38:42 PM

This may be a stupid question. Is the amount that is spent on the marketing campaigns part of the listed budget total? I've always assumed it's not.

needaname04 10/27/2008 4:05:42 AM

If you read my comment in the review of Saw V, then you know that I thought it was the shit.

I'll go see that again before anything that comes out next weekend...maybe Zach and Miri.

I bet Saw V might drop 50%, but who cares. It made it's budget back the first day.

Next year will be a good year. Not only a game but what I have to assume is the end of the amazing saga.

Dazzler 10/27/2008 4:39:32 AM

I saw Body of lies.  It was better than I thought.  Good chemistry between Leo and Russell onscreen.  Things blow up enough in the movie to keep my interest with firefights.  Not sure if there was a message for the movie except let's get the fuk out of Iraq, they can take care of themselves.  That Jordan secret service was pretty bad ass. 

AMiSHPiRATE 10/27/2008 5:59:03 AM

I've got a serious speculative for you guys:  how much do you think HSMIII would have made this weekend if Zac Effron died two weeks ago?

captm0rgan77 10/27/2008 8:24:01 AM

drumshine.  It's not a stupid question.  Those figures from the marketing group are fuzzy.  In most cases yes.  But here are a couple of scenarios:

  • Remember the film Godzilla that came out in 1998?  Well the movies producers wanted to go crazy with the campaigning of this and Tri-Star (Sony) agreed to put up the cash for the marketing, banking on the previous success of the films creators.  There were crushed cars in London, huge bill boards, buses covered in signs claiming godzilla's foot size, and of course all the stuff geared towards the kids.  Well due to the extravagance of the campaign the cost got tagged onto the films budget.  Some say that the movie would have been more successful if they hadn't done all those things.  Don't get me wrong, the movie almost tripled it's budget in box office gross.
  • Most times a studio making a movie will agree to a deal with a big studio for several reasons, one of them being the studios connections for marketing on multiple mediums (radio, television, trailers, internet, billboards, etc.)  These things, with in reason, usually only cost a couple of million and usually won't be tacked on to the movies budget.  It's mostly decided upon the contract of residuals and royalties the big studio will take in off of the box office over the producing studio.  Take the movie Titanic.  James Cameron wanted more money for his movie after Fox told him he reached his budget limit.  So he went to Paramount and made a deal with them.  Then he wanted even more.  Paramount told him he reached his budget.  So he ponyed up his take for more money and diverted the marketing budget to the making of his movie.  Naturally we all know how that turned out.

So in most cases some of the marketing get put on the films budget, but more in the manner of a fee for their services.  So if Fox has a deal with a media company like NBC then they can get coverage on that companies avenues of media or Fox's own television studio.  Naturally the Fox network isn't the same as Fox's movie studio but they are both owned by the New Corporation and it's connections are vast.  In most cases a marketing campaign, or lack of, is what can determine if a movie is an "indie film" or not.  A lower budget for a film will usually mean little or no marketing banking on just word of mouth can make a film an "indie film".  Naturally if it proves to be a success, like The Blair Witch Project, it can get picked up by a major studio and then receive financial backing for wider releases, better marketing, etc.

Hope that helps.

Whiskeymovie 10/27/2008 8:40:36 AM

I haven't been to the theater since August. Too bust being a 32 y/o sophmore. Ughhh,,,it sucks,,,,,anyway. Next movie I really care about is Repo: The Genetic Opera. It looks amazing, but could go either way.

Amish, to answer your question, I don't think enough people wold care. Heath Ledger was a well known actor, Zac is known mostly for HSM. It might have helped a little bit with tons of tear-soaked A-cups going to see the movie a few times to morn their beloved Zac. But over all, it would not have been a Dark Knight (assuming that Ledgers death did add to the gross, which I am sure it did).

I hate to admit it, but I kind of enjoy the HSM movies. They are fun family entertainment with some catchy tunes. This is obviously a dvd rental, but I am sure I will check it out....They are actually doing a production of HSM here at the state theater here in NJ the Papermill Playhouse. I might go catch that.

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