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fenngibbon 2/22/2013 4:10:03 AM

 Re:  the boxing of your copy of Ender's Game

This is an observation, not a criticism:  you do know you're in the same boat as those who destroyed their Beatles paraphenalia after the whole "More popular than Jesus" thing and those who forsook the Dixie Chicks after they criticized Bush, right?

fenngibbon 2/22/2013 4:35:24 AM

 I keep trying to post a longer response and it just won't go through.  I know some sites have language filters, but there's no profanity so I have no idea what would be triggering it, and it's not longer than other posts I've seen, so I know it's not a size issue.  Any ideas?

CyanideRush 2/22/2013 4:38:15 AM

 @Fenngibbon: once in a while there's a server issue that causes that, and folks aren't able to post longer comments until it's resolved.

Liquids7 2/22/2013 4:39:49 AM

I'm hoping Supes "cures" Alan Scott of being gay and as soon as Scott leaves the book it will be retconned and Scott will be gay again. 

Seriously though, unless homosexuality is actually a part of the storyline, I don't think it should be an issue.

I don't care for Sean Penn and his ego flying in his private jet to Iraq to assess the real situation on behalf of the common people of the United States and his one-man search for weapons of mass destruction, but I can still watch The Game, because the film isn't about his politics or ego.

Tim Robbins and other Hollywood millionaires laud the efforts of millionaire "everyman" Michael Moore and his documentaries filled with mistruths and half-truths and outright lies, but I just watched The Hudsucker Proxy again and loved it and Tim's performance.

I wouldn't spend money on something those actors were a part of that was actually about their politics or other personal beliefs, but most of their films aren't about them. I think the two can be seperated. And yes, the more money they earn through movies ables them to stand on their soapboxes, but I can still disagree in the proper forum.

And I strongly believe in gay rights. And I strongly hate decades old characters being made gay for the sake of being gay.  

irockdiesel 2/22/2013 4:41:11 AM

@ Fenn...   Just break it down into sections until you have everything posted.  Some of things I try to post either are posted twice OR never posted.

Kaziklu 2/22/2013 5:11:21 AM

 Authors personal opinions are their own, I don't believe that a persons works need be discriminated against based on their opinion unless, their works are the expression of that opinion. Then only so far as you deciding not to express your right to choose what companies, products and works you purchase or consume. 

I've been discriminated against because of my religion in a real way in circumstance that I shouldn't have, I have also had people question my sexuality and in turn treat me a certian way. I have had a cost to my living, my health, and my personal well being by people who discriminate based on personal views, faith or preferences that in no way effect them. 

This Boycott is in the same vein. Though I do not agree with Mr Cards opinions or political choices, so long as he is not using Superman as a soap box for discrimination that others shouldn't discrimate against him. 

Comic books are often used as a soap box to preach against discrimination, I find it funny how people tend to discriminate so easily when it comes to comics. 

On the flip side. If his story arc has a "defense of marriage" political statment then it is the Comic buying publics choice not to purchase it, and I would support that choice.

flyinroo 2/22/2013 5:19:33 AM

 Unless the storylines become propaganda for his beliefs, I wouldn't automatically start a boycott. Just like what Liquids7 said, its possible to enjoy movies, songs, etc. made by certain individuals that have opposing real life views as long as they don't preach it in their particular medium. 

This is an individual preference and each person should deal with it as they see fit. If I owned a comic book store, I wouldn't immediately announce I am not carrying the books he has written until I saw proof he is using them as a pulpit to preach his venom. I'm not pro-gay, nor am I anti-gay. I am for living your life the way you want to live it as long as you don't hurt anyone else. So if Card just makes good Superman stories, and leaves out his personal beliefs, then I don't see a problem.

Joel, I don't blame you at all for how you feel about your Eagles. I am a HUGE football fan (Go Steelers!) and I can't imagine what I would have felt if my team had taken Vick. But at the same time I think everyone deserves that second chance to see if they have learned from their mistakes. I was never a fan of Vick even before the dog abuse, and wouldn't want him on my team because I'm not fond of running QBs. But I think that he served the time that the courts said he needed to, and its ok to give him his chance at changing for the better. I hope you're able to reconnect with your team soon, I'd be lost without my Sundays in front of the TV.

Kaziklu 2/22/2013 5:24:17 AM

 I will also add that Card though I disagree with him on many many levels, has shown the ability to learn and adapt his views. His opinions can and have changed over time. And though largely due to his religious convictions being mormon he will never accept homosexuality which is his religious right, he shows conviction, and at least on some level an openess to debate if only at worse for marketing purposes. 

Liquids7 2/22/2013 5:34:41 AM

Does Mr. Card have a problem with an alien being (Superman) having once been married to a member of the human race (Lois Lane)? Does such interspecies marriage disgust him?

MrEt 2/22/2013 5:36:21 AM

I wonder if the "Right" is going to protest the whole batwoman thing with the upcoming gay marriage??

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