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SarcasticCaveman 2/25/2013 4:05:38 AM

 And by the way, Wiseguy, that Verse from Matthew is not part of a parable...that was Jesus talking directly to his apostles in what is today called the "Lesser Commission", telling them what to do as they go out among the people.  I agree that it is taken out of context, just sayin'.

karas1 2/25/2013 4:55:40 AM

As I understand it, %10 of humans are gay to some degree or another.  Therefore, %10 of superfolk should be gay as well.

So many sports stars are just not role model material.  Do you want impressionable childrem looking up to Michael Vic or any of the sports personalities who have been in the news for domestic violence issues or drugs?  I'd prefer they idolize a gay superhero any day of the week.

Wiseguy 2/25/2013 8:14:02 AM

kaziklu you poor creature. Believe as you will. But the proof is in the pudding. And you must be getting your history lessons from muslims who whitewash all the atrocities mohammed committed. There's no denying his aggresions and yeah of course there was peace later, he evicted all Christians and Jews from the arabian peninsula. That's like saying there was peace in Russia after Lenin sent all his enemies to the gulags.

Btw the conversion by force is also fact. mohammed was a slickster, while his following was small he was preaching one thing but as his power grew he grew more violent and less tolerable. That's why one of the later suras pretty much abrogates his earlier ones when it came to conversion by force

And don't misunderstand my comments as implying that all muslims are like this. I'm just pointing out the fact that one religion was built on violence while the others were not. So when a muslim uses violence they can refer back to muhammed and the quran to justify it. Christians can't do that and if they use violence they're going against all Jesus preached and his actions, there's just no two ways about it.

 

jackwagon 2/25/2013 10:20:34 AM

I'm late to this debate, but I have a few thoughts after skimming through some of these comments.

I'm a Christian.  I'm a moderate conservative.  I've heard of Orson Scott Card and Ender's Game, but I've never read the book.  I might see the movie when it comes out later this year.  Prior to reading this article, I never had known his stance on homosexuality.

I don't understand the need to boycott whatever issues he writes for Superman, unless the storyline he chooses to write is somehow homophobic or anti-homosexuality in nature.  The likelihood of such a storyline is probably not very likely, given that Ender's Game has been regarded as one of the greatest science fiction novels in decades, and no one has accused that book of being anti-gay at all.  

I noticed a post on here posing the question of why works of fiction almost always position Christian characters as villains/crooked in nature, while making atheists and/or anti-religious characters as heroes time and again.  I completely agree, and I would even take the discussion further.  Not only are religious characters traditionally portrayed as close-minded or sinister, but other characters traditionally make them out as fools.  Their faith and values are typically made to look like they've been brainwashed, and they're merely spouting off pre-programmed jargon.  Sure, there are Christians out there who are like that in life, but there are plenty others who quietly live their lives and keep sacred their values and beliefs.  Where's the harm in that?

I'm getting a little off-topic, so I'll bring Card back into focus.  What Card believes and values is his business, and I would expect him to more likely paint a Christian character as a positive hero than to spread some anti-gay propoganda.  The two concepts are hardly mutually exclusive, and if there is some boycott in place over Card's assignment to write Superman, why aren't people working towards boycotting all his previous works?  Why isn't there some backlash over Ender's Game being adapted into a feature film?

On the other hand, I can somewhat understand the boycotters' motives considering my own dislike for Roman Polanski.  I do not understand why any actors or studios want to work with him, considering he is a fugitive from American justice.  I will never watch a film of his so long as he continues to be a fugitive living in Europe, and I think anyone who does work with him to some degree doesn't care about his past.

MrJawbreakingEquilibrium 2/25/2013 11:32:12 AM

Wiseguy, I don't know one way or the other about what Mohammed did or did not do but you say that Kaz is probably getting a whitewashed version from believers or whatever. How do you know that what you have learned are truly facts and not a demonized version of the truth by haters?

lazarus 2/25/2013 11:43:37 AM

Karas let me say one thing, for every Micheal Vick that makes the news, there are 100 that are giving back to the community, with time and money. Most of these guys are humble, compassionate and very cool. I blessed to work with the Jaguars and never have I met a group of guys more approachable. Yeah, every league/team has their Vick but that is the exception that makes the news. Not the rule.

As for that vs a comic book. Both have merit, but I would value a LIVING human being as a role model over a fictional character. IMHO.

My big complaint is the double standard, again as I said, if an open public boycott was done by those who oppose the gay lifestyle and what it means there would be outrage. But if those who support gay rights boycott something/someone they perceive as anti gay, it is all over the news. That is what I have an issue with. People are entilted to their beliefs, deal. (Not you Karas I mean in general).

What if a person who was a former Klansman came out and wrote a book supporting racism? Does he not have a right to his beliefs?

And yeah I have little sympathy for the "oh god these kids are misunderstood" crap. Seriouisly, the problem with kids today is that society wants to shelter them so much they are thin skinned and can't TAKE anything. One little adversity crumbles their self esteem and world. We did we as a country become such pussies? Grow up and get a thicker skin. Watch the movie Ted, first scene they are beating up the Jewish kid and they STOPPED to mess with the kid they did not like, even the Jewish kid who is getting his ass beat does it. No whining or crying.

We all feel out of place and isolated growing up, that is part of life and learning who you are. F*ck most of us were geeks, nerds or outcasts in some fashion, do they have to create a special class for us and make sure we are represented in media? Last time I checked nerds/geeks and the type were still pretty much ridiculed for the most part. Even that show The Big Bang Theory makes intelligent people look utterly pathetic. So please come tell me some more how it is that the gay demographic is prioritized and supposed to be more important.

The point of this was there are other sects of the population that get teased, made to look pathetic, and outcast. Love to understand what makes gays so special they need to represented in order to be PC and not offend them.

Maybe they need to have more nerdy/geeky superheroes. Bet that more than 10% of the population are that way, why are there no excessively geeky nerdy superheroes.

Okay I am officially don't with the rant. Again no one should be getting the type of eggshell walking treatment that comes with this group. It is crap.

MrJawbreakingEquilibrium 2/25/2013 12:11:31 PM

Well, Laz, I wonder what you would say if this was the civil rights movement. Man, you'e black - get over it. People are outcast all the time. Grow thicker skin.

SarcasticCaveman 2/25/2013 12:21:48 PM

 LOL...referencing "Ted" to try to make your point...WOW.  Because Seth McFarlane only deals in REAL WORLD issues, not a satirical world of parody when a guy's boss is "friends" with Tom Skerrit because he's holding his daughter hostage.

lazarus 2/25/2013 12:56:04 PM

I get your point SC. But that is one example. Tell me honestly people have not gotten more sensitive in the last 30 years. Bunch of flippin pansies. Stop cryin.

SarcasticCaveman 2/25/2013 1:03:43 PM

 I agree that some people seem to have become more sensitive in recent years, but on the flip side, I think the other side (violence, sadism and cruelty) has also increased.  When I was in high school, I thought I was bullied and made fun of...looking back, I NEVER heard of a case of such intense bullying that it ended in death.  Some kids are so messed up that they proudly post videos of their bullying on youtube.  It's a different world, man.  Just seems kind of lame to tell the sensitive side to grow a thicker skin when it seems like they're up against the kind of crap that I bet neither one of us ever were.

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