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lazarus 2/25/2013 1:29:09 PM

SC I completely concede and agree with this point you make. It has become a much more intense and cruel world out there. Yeah kinda messed up.

SarcasticCaveman 2/25/2013 1:33:28 PM

 I enjoyed the lively debate!  Glad it can still occur with both parties still cool when it's over.  Back to the original topic, while I don't agree with the author's politics, I also think it's silly to boycott Superman just because he's writing it.  

SarcasticCaveman 2/25/2013 1:34:07 PM

 I don't agree with Clint Eastwood's politics, but I do hope he's in "Expendables 3"...LOL

violator14 2/25/2013 1:34:07 PM

 Wow, i never realized this thread even existed. Seems strangely familiar tho for some reason....

lazarus 2/25/2013 1:53:16 PM

I like Clint Eastwood's politics. Shoot first, shoot high and shoot often. Headshots kill anything, except cheaters on COD. I would LOVE to see Eastwood in E3. Also would love to see the Rock play the bad guy. He plays a REALLY good bad guy.

You know who would be interesting to see in E3? Jackie Chan, god that guy does shit Li would never think of.

And while we are at it how about digitizing Patrick Swayze in there some how? :)

SarcasticCaveman 2/25/2013 2:06:55 PM

 I want to see Michael Ironside play a villain in Expendables 3...he's already been a bad guy in most of their movies anyway!

lazarus 2/25/2013 2:22:58 PM

True that. Good suggestion.

karas1 2/25/2013 2:33:09 PM

Jackwagon, religious people get the short end of the stick in scifi because it's SCIENCE fiction.  Science is the opposite of faith.  With science you look for the truth and are willing to discard theories that turn out to be wrong.  With faith you believe what seems like nonsense because somebody told you to (a huge flood covered the entire world and the ancestors of all living terresterial animals were crammed into one tiny wooden boat for over a month?  Really?).

I know some christians who are great people.  They embrace the positive values that Jesus preached and are willing to accept others that don't share those beliefs.  I've known christians who were snotty and superior and had no patience with others who didn't believe as they did because the rest of us were going to hell and didn't count.  And I've had christians try to save my soul.  They had the best of intentions but were not willing to accept that I was happy with my beliefs and kept trying to convert me.

Also, you may be too young to remember the heyday of the televangelist but there were of whole crowd of them who used religion to bilk the gullible out of their money.  And they weren't very subtle about it either.  They had mansions and yachts and $5,000 suits and they bought it all from contributions from elderly folks on fixed incomes who sent them more money than they could afford every month to do "God's work".  My grandmother's 3rd husband was one of those folks and my grandma took to collecting the mail and throwing all the solicitation letters from Rex Humbard away before he could see them because he was bankrupting them with his charitable contributions.

Nice quiet christians may be the majority but the other ones make a lot more noise and get noticed more.

 

Lazarus, I'm not much into sports so there may be many pro athletes out there who don't take drugs or beat up women or animals and might be worthy to be the role models of young children that I don't know about.  But at the end of the day these guys get paid million dollar salaries to play a game.  They aren't heroes.  They are entertainers.  There are firemen and police and teachers and doctors and the guy who drives the snowplow in the blizzard and lots more who contribute more to society than throwing a ball through a hoop.

I'd much rahter have a child idolize a fictional hero who risks his life to save people from aliens or stand up to prejudice or stop villians from dumping toxic waste into the water supply or whatever for no reward than some real guy who gets paid a huge salary to hit a ball with a bat and run around the bases really fast.  Does the athlete risk his life to help others? 

There may be some athletes who give a lot of money to charities and that's good.  Honor them for that.  But in the larger scheme of things, hitting a puck into a goal with a stick is an inconsequential diversion.

lazarus 2/25/2013 2:54:55 PM

Karas I get it that you don't like sports. Hey it is not for everyone. And it is the modern day Gladiator arena, no doubt or denying it. People have always idolized the physically gifted and that is what these people are. They are literally the closest thing to superheroes we have in reality. No they don't save people, but they perform super human acts that most of us only can dream of. Yeah some of them a worthless POS, but IMHO the ones that are actually humble and grounded are some of the best people I have ever met. And whether you like it or not I will be willing to wager more kids are idolizing sports figures than super heros these days. How many kids you see wearing jerseys or other sports related appearal?

And yeah I get that cops, firemen, teachers, yada yada yada are very commited selfless people. Very few if any kids idolize those people. Not saying it is right, I am saying what is. I never idolized a fireman when I was a kid, don't think it has changed much in that aspect.

So Karas let me pose this to you. So if the kids idolize these heroes in comics should we be more thoughtful before promoting heroes like Punisher and Deadpool who clearly shoot/kill and blow shit up for fun? Perhaps they are not good role models. :)

tjanson 2/25/2013 3:32:30 PM

Karas..10% of people are gay???  Just where are you getting that fact from?  And what do you mean by "to some degree or another"?  That's a vague statement.  What makes one "gay" to a degree?  If I say George Clooney is a good looking guy does that make me gay to a degree? 

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