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karas1 2/25/2013 6:01:35 PM

tjanson, I didn't say that science was the opposite of religion.  I said that science was the opposite of faith.  And it is.  Faith is belief in spite of the evidence.  Science is the search for truth through evidence.

I've heard the %10 of the population is gay thing since college (long ago in the '80s, when time was young and dinosaurs roamed the earth). 

vitieddie 2/25/2013 8:27:14 PM

I agree about the sensitive part and how "weird" it is now with things like "participation" medals etc ... but thats a bit of a stretch from gay kids needing role models in fiction ... I do understand how the discussion reached this point though

As for Christians, I have seen both sides of the spectrum ... I have a friend who I respect greatly, but say things like "they want to ordain gays as priests in the anglican church in america - can you believe that?!!" ... and I also have Christan friends who sympathize and are totally supportive

shac2846 2/25/2013 9:54:44 PM

 jackwagon I hear what your saying and Sorkin is one of my favourite writers. To be fair his new show on HBO, newsroom the lead character played by Jeff Daniels identifies himself as a moderate republican althought I'm not through season 1 yet so his character may change but I looked the show up on wikipedia and it confirms this. Also the show shows all of 24 hour news as a corporate culture and takes both left and right wing issues to task. MSNBC refused to let chris mathews appear on the show because sorkin (a liberal) takes a critical look at liberlism as well as conservitism. This is one of the reasons why I like the show despite the mixed reviews (which are likely brought on by the media outlets that don't like how they're protrayed) and is the reason why I respect sorkin as a writer even if I disagree with his views. Not only is he talented but he is open and willing to be fair. He wrote a few good men when he was younger and maybe he's grown since then. Just thought I'd point that out.

karas1 2/26/2013 4:34:58 AM

Lazarus, I understand that many kids idolize atheltes and wear jerseys and trade sports cards and it's a good enough hobby for them.  But our society pays too much attention to sports.  If one team beats another team in the Superbowl or the World Series what does it really matter?  How has it changed anybody's life for the better?

People treat sports like they really mean something instead of acknologing that it's a fun hobby and no more.

And what do these athletes contribute to society?  Yeah, they are strong and fast in a way that I never will be but so what?

I'm not really that familliar with Punisher.  I know his basic story but I don't think I've ever read a Punisher comic book.  And Deadpool is after my time, I'm not even really sure who he is or what he stands for.  But our culture is full of antiheroes, people who the right thing for the wrong reason.  I wouldn't hold these people up to children ass role models but they are interesting stories to tell.

MrJawbreakingEquilibrium 2/26/2013 7:42:26 AM

Laz, you're comparing people who do things like Jackass with kids who are videotaped doing embarrassing things and that being put on Youtube or Facebook? That's a pretty horrible analogy.

SarcasticCaveman 2/26/2013 8:32:31 AM

 Gotta gree with Jawbreaking here...Jackass enthusiasts putting videos and pictures of themselves up for attention is a far cry from bullies posting embarassing or humiliating pictures or videos of others.

tjanson 2/26/2013 1:49:38 PM

Karas no offense but your comments about athletes and sports are rather naive...what do athletes contribute to society?  That's stupid.  What does a guy baking donuts or flipping burgers contribute to society?  What does a real estate salesperson or a customer service rep contribute?  Not everyone can cure cancer.  Sports and athletes provide entertainment for those who watch them and provide fitness for thos involved in them, something we need much more of in our ever fatter society. 

for some nations, events like the World Cup and the Olympics are their sole opportunity to show off their national pride, particulalrly for some very small countries.  When I think about Kenya, the first thing that comes to mind is their dominant long distance runners.  Athletes contrubute just as much to society as writers, artists, actors, or musicians.  They provide enjoyment for billions.  They give you something to be proud of whether its your high school or college alma mater, or your local pro team, or your country's national team.

If the world was soleley about doing things that changes people's lives for the better this place would be one boring ass rock to live upon.

Wiseguy 2/26/2013 3:44:20 PM

I'll add jobs, tons of jobs, because of sports. Be it apparel, sporting equipment, folk maintaining the fields and/or buildings, the vendors. Ask these folk what sports contributes to society.

As far as some taking it too serious and paying it too much attention, yeah I can see what you mean, but it isn't much different from us sweating every detail of Spidey's new costume, or critiquing Star Trek's reboot. It's called being passionate and like some here it can be taken to an extreme but that's the case with just about anything

violator14 2/26/2013 3:50:14 PM

Karas- to add to Tim's thoughts, sports is also one of, if not the only way to bring country's and nations together for friendly competition and the for love of sports. Olympics, World Cups, international Basketball championships and etc.all help bring the world together and show that we are not all that different from each other.

and on top of that MANY MANY MANY athletes, leagues, and teams spend LOTS of money on charities and foundations despite what you think.

oh and imagine a world without athletes/sports jobs (including management, refs, tv people, tv crews, broadcasts, vendors). The competition for your average office job or whatever other job would be inflated, and as tim said, "it would be one boring ass rock to live upon."

For pete's sake, Dennis Rodman and the Globetrotters were allowed in North Korea cuz the idiot ruler is a huge Chicago Bulls fan. So ya, Sports and athletes have become very significant.

Wiseguy 2/26/2013 3:52:41 PM

You can also add men, women, boys and girls what sports did for them in terms of confidence, making friends, keeping fit and even keeping them busy and out of trouble just to name few things

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