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vitieddie 2/28/2013 4:40:00 AM

As others have said, some sports ppl do not just donate money but work closely with the community and use their fame to bring awareness to issues, etc ... the great athletes who do nothing else could be admired for their skills but prob should not be taken as role models ...

Fictional characters or works can be considered heroes and provide inspriation to kids ... imagine when you were in school and the literature that was used to inspire or teach lessons etc ... as a similar e.g. to hanso - consider Spidey/Bats and his character and his history/struggles/values ... they could provide role models to kids and shape part of their lives ... 

It may not be as concrete as real heroes (people) but it is nonetheless important.


karas1 2/28/2013 8:16:34 AM

Hanso, you're talking about the American Dream.  Poor kid makes good and becomes a millionaire.  It doesn't just work with sports.  For generations kids have been dreaming about being the next Bruce Springsteen or Harrison Ford.

And for most it's a pipe dream.  Maybe one out of 10,000 kids who want to be pro basketball players actually joins the NBA.  It's valuable to have a dream, we all need them.  But maybe having an attainable dream would be better.

As for this repping concept, I'm afraid I don't consider it to be of much value.  Player A plays for the Yankees and represents New York.  Then they trade him to the Dodgers and he represents Los Angeles.  Then they trade him to the Blue Jays and he represents Toronto.  It's not loyalty to a city or a team, it's who will pay him the most money.  He's doing the best he can for himself, just like donut guy.  There's nothing wrong with that.  It's what we all do.  But it doesn't make him a hero.

What it comes down to I guess is that I just don't like professional team sports and you guys do.  I consider these athletes to be entertainers, just like any other entertainer.  Except that they don't entertain me.  Other people like them and that's fine.  If we all liked the same things it would be a dull world.  You enjoy your sports and I'll be over watching Syfy or the Cooking Channel or a nice documentary on plate tectonics on the History Channel.

But I still don't see how professional athletes are any more heroic than any other entertainer.  Tiger Woods may be a genius at golf.  But it turns out he's not a very nice person.  Michael Jordan may be a genius at basketball and a nice guy and donate tons of money to charity.  Bill Gates is a genius in his field and people like him and he donates huge amounts of money to charity.  Why isn't he a hero like Michael Jordan?

violator14 2/28/2013 9:03:23 AM

 You're kinda veering off the subject I think to the unnecessary. I think the topic was say, "Why is Michael Jordan(athletes) a hero?"   Now your kinda saying, "Michael Jordan is a hero, but why isn't Bill Gates a hero as well?"

When we settle that argument, your next topic will be, "So Michael Jordan and Bill Gates are heros, why isn't Warren Buffet as heroic as these guys?? Or why isn't Donut guy an idol??" then who knows what other crevice you'll find to disagree with all the guys on Mania.... LOL

hanso 2/28/2013 9:31:00 AM

 Im going to have to agree with Violator.  You seem to have multiple stuff going on, not sure I can help.  I think its been explained why sporth athlethes are considered heroes or role models.  Agree or disagree is up to you.

karas1 2/28/2013 10:38:39 AM

I'm not saying "If Michael Jordan is a hero why isn't Bill Gates a hero as well."  I'm saying "if Bill Gates isn't a hero for his charitable work why is Michael Jordan a hero for the same charitable work"?

As far as charitable work goes, if donut guy donates $300 to a charity which he needed to pay his bills, that's more heroic than if Michael Jordan donates $30,000 that are just sitting around in the bank gathering dust to the same charity.  Jordan isn't sacrificing resources he needs.  Donut guy wiill be living off stale donuts for the next week.


violator14 2/28/2013 10:45:03 AM

 Who says Bill Gates is "Not a hero"? no one here is saying that. YOU are saying that.

And if Donut guy did that, and it was televised on tv or yahoo, he WOULD be noticed and hailed by a hero by ALL. So i dont get what ur point is....

MrJawbreakingEquilibrium 2/28/2013 1:06:25 PM

Yeah, I don't think he would.

TheStormrider 2/28/2013 7:01:20 PM

 I just have .02c on the religious thing.  


People often say 'That is the old testament', while supporting the new.  However it says quite frankly the old testament still holds true, and christians are to adhere to those rules.


The christian bible doesnt say you have to do anything good whatsoever to get to heaven.  The only key to heaven is to accept jesus as your savior.  The rest is optional.


Lastly, someone insinuated that people use religion for their own gain and personal agenda.  It is more logical that man created god in his own image,  not vice versa.

vitieddie 2/28/2013 7:49:43 PM

Um I dont think the rest is optional

violator14 3/1/2013 8:45:28 AM

 Ya i have to agree with Vitieddie. It's really not that hard to understand, but it seems your interpretation is a bit misguided Stormrider ole buddy. If you "accept Jesus as your savior", what that means is you are gonna try and act as he did which was to be virtuous, and "do anything good whatsoever" (help others, be humble, etc. etc.). It goes hand in hand. 

It's like say if you join a fraternity or some club. Say all you do is pay a $10 fee to get in or something, but you NEVER EVER go to a meeting or an event, or even hang out with any of the members. Everyone knows in general you're not really part of the group. You have to man up, contribute, do your part and be involved. Otherwise you're just a poser. know what i mean?  =)

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