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dwinal 2/22/2013 12:22:42 PM

 BTW, if you really believe in having an open dialogue and living in a "CIVIL" society where people can have different views, be respected and no one is shut-out of the discussion, then you should be commending DC for having gay friendly characters while at the same time allowing Card to write some Superman arc.  Everyone gets something.

To be fair, DC should probably also include in some books positions that actually don't support the gay agenda and do it in a respectful way that properly presents the other side's point of view as well.

jedibanner 2/22/2013 1:12:19 PM

To be honest, maybe nothing was raised  beforebecause many people didn't know he was going to that extent to promote his hate, he was maybe more of an unknowned then than what he is today.

If I knew at the time that he was writing for Marvel, I would've do the same thing and would've boycotted the book he wrote at Marvel also.

Sometimes it's the price of glamour and fame...the more you become popular, the more whatever you say or do will have an impact on others and when it becomes negative, there is always a price to pay.

SarcasticCaveman 2/22/2013 1:15:16 PM

 It does seem kind of suspect to boycott him now.  Did nobody think to look into OSC's religious or political views while they were making him a best selling author?  I realize Ender's Game came out in 1985, well before most people were worrying about equal rights for homosexuals, to say nothing of marriage equality, but what of his following books, or his Ultimate Iron Man work?  What makes THIS time special?  What's the key?  Is it because it's Superman?  Is it because DC relaunched a Golden Age character as gay?  Is it simply because marriage equality is a hotter issue than it even was a few years ago?  What makes this time so different?

shac2846 2/22/2013 1:25:28 PM

 With all due respect Jedi Card is a really popular writer in the world of science fiction. Numerous directors have tried to bring Enders Game to the screen before and he has been asked by other directors, james cameron among them to adapt noveliztions of there movies (although he got into it with Cameron and backed out) People knew this guy and the same people (not the fans the PC police) bitching about this knew who he was and what his stance on these issues were when marvel started publishing comics of his novels and asked him to write the ultimate iron man mini.

Maybe it's the fact that DC decided to make a huge media circus out of the whole alan scott gay thing and now hiring Card is now an issue where as without putting themselves under the microscope this likely would have been a non issue. 

And again no one can answer the question of whether or not he is writing an antigay story. TV writer David Gerrold he is famous for writing the trouble with tribbles I believe, wrote a letter to DC asking them to hire him so he could balance the publisher against Card. WTF! What are they balancing if he isn't writing an anti-gay story?

shac2846 2/22/2013 1:29:36 PM

 The same issues were raised by fans when bill willingham took over jsa from geoff johns because some fans felt since he was a republican he wouldn't use obsidian or deal with his homosexuality. No huge boycott there either. 

dwinal 2/22/2013 1:31:09 PM

 The left and pro-gay folks here say the "hate" is on the other side. Calling something "hate" or "archaic" is an easy way to try to discredit those you disagree. It's not hateful to point out the large number of self-identified gays who claim they were sexually abused/raped when minors.

I wonder if those who see this as a civil rights issue are also willing to fight for the civil rights of people who want to have multiple wives or husbands? Why not let 4 or 5 people form a union and be recognized? Why should these consenting adults be descriminated against?

It's amazing to me to call the "traditional marriage" archaic, when the pro-gay position is one that dates back ot ancient Rome and Greece. 

SarcasticCaveman 2/22/2013 1:33:04 PM

 After posting about this on Facebook, somebody tried playing the Mel Gibson card.  You know, people boycotting him after learning about his anit-semetic views...not entirely the same situation.  It's not me and my friends and like-minded people who have been boycotting him, it's pretty much the entire industry.  Honestly, even though I think he's a douche and a half, if I saw a preview for a movie he was in that looked decent, I would go see it.  I also think Tom Cruise is batsh*t crazy, but I still think he's a decent actor.  This situation is about fans boycotting somebody.  I don't care for his religious and political views, but if he keeps them out of the story he tells, I really don't see what the big deal is.

Tevii 2/22/2013 1:35:34 PM

a boycott is ridiculous. I am 100% for gay rights, but this is the United States of America. He is allowed to have his opinions, no matter how stupid they may be.

The ONLY thing we should be judging is his story-telling ability.

Walker 2/22/2013 1:35:50 PM

 While I am not necessarily supporting this boycott, much if this is blowback against Propositon 8. That vote was influenced by large ad buys from the Mormon Church. Because tithing is such a large part of the Mormon community, there is a segment of the population that (right or wrong) sees all Mormons as accessories to that act. They also believe the best way to fight the power of the Mormon Church is to deny it money, which in turn means denying money to individual Mormons.

Personally, I see this is a bit extreme. But I have seen this position advocated by many people.

SarcasticCaveman 2/22/2013 1:40:05 PM

 dwinal - I think the distaste over "traditional" marriage largely comes from a religious viewpoint, and it boils down to a separation of church and state issue.  A lot of proponants for "tradiational" marriage point to the Bible for reference.  Of course they forget the Bible mentions some of the following as marriage:

You are obligated to marry a woman you rape.

You are obligated to marry your brother's widow.

You are obligated to stay with a woman who displeases you on your wedding night.

Which one of those would be "traditional" or "biblical" marriage?

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