if it isn't gay movies,it gay tv shows, now gay comics. gladd and other gay groups now seem to be trying to pass themselves as normal to children and teenagers with yet another abomination.

Gays aren't passing themselves off as normal. Gays are normal. But sadly, so are hatred & ignorance, which you've clearly demonstrated clarkfquinoes.

Tokyopop likely has nothing to do with GLADD. However, there are as many normal gay people as there are straight people. However, homophoboic people are not normal. These "comics" are likely to appeal to children and teenagers as much as comics about straight characters. If a parent doesn't want a child reading any type of comic, it's well within their parental rights to brainwash their children to be homophobes or anti-manga, if they are smart enough to be involved in their child's reading. There are more straight people who have anal sex than gay people. If you don't like it, don't think about it. However, it's extremely ignorant to hate someone based on your imagination of what they may or may not be doing in the bedroom. The fact that you think about it so much, probably means something.

Being gay doesn't make anyone less normal than having red hair. You may want to look up the definition of normal, especially related to "social norm". However, it is considered to stray from the norm to hate people based on gender. There's only one golden rule, and hate violates it. Very little media has the intent of brainwashing. These manga books are not trying to brainwash kids any more than any other fiction. These comics appeal to young women because of the sappy relationships and lower level of violence than other comics. Gays exists. Stories that acknowledge this are much less brainwashing than those that pretend that they don't. I doubt you will find a comic that isn't published by the KKK or Neo Nazis that has a homophobic story line that will directly suit your brainwashing. Even Collosus from the X-Men and Northstar from Alpha Flight are gay. Estimates are that 1 in 10 people are gay. Anything except the missionary position between a man and a woman definitely isn't considered "normal" in polite society, no matter who it's between. Anal sex between two men doesn't make them gay. Two men being attracted to eachother makes them gay. I'm sure that there are gay men that find anal sex between two men as disgusting as you do. Your disgust for gays seems to come from your vivid imagination of how two gay men show intimacy. I don't personally like thinking about my parents having sex, as it's pretty disgusting. However, I know that they did. I just don't think about it. It doesn't make me hate them. I'm glad that this probably means you like gay women.

What I find disturbing is all of the tv shows about heterosexuality. Okay, you're attracted to people of the opposite sex, I get it! No need to rub it in my face! Keep it in the closet! Don't push that filth on me! All you homophobes fail miserably at making any logical sense. One in ten tv characters should be gay. It's not "rubbing it in your face". There is at least 1000 times as much overt heterosexual content in the media, which makes it far outweigh any homosexual stuff. Being homosexual or heterosexual has nothing to do with sex or procreation. It's one factor in what someone consider's "sexy". Hair color, body type, age, race, and many characteristics make up someone's sexual preference. This could also be considered lust. Many heterosexuals who are not attracted to their sex partners are able to procreate. Homosexuals procreate. Homosexuals are natural, and are a part of nature. The purpose of sex is not to reproduce, it's to have sex. The purpose of procreating is procreating. Humans are not the only ones that have sex for pleasure, or homosexual sex for pleasure. Even if it were true, humans are part of nature and homosexuals procreate. Some homosexuals are celibate. If sex should only be for procreation, then most sex is wrong, including the majority between heterosexual partners. I don't think it is wrong, since it doesn't violate the golden rule. If this is your sole reason for hating homosexuals, then you should hate most heterosexuals too. Having gender involved in your sexual preference is normal. If you don't thik so, then try choosing to be with someone of the same sex. You can't change your preference for this anymore than you can change your preference for vanillia ice cream over chocolate. Whatgives73, I made it clear what makes someone gay. It's not sex, but attraction.

Homosexuality by definition is an exclusive attraction of a person of one gender to a person of another gender. Sex doesn't make a person gay, straight, bi, or anything. Using that definition, all virgins are no-sexuals. Usually if two people have sex they are attracted to each other, but sex isn't what defines homosexuality. Is someone who is attracted to men but has only slept with women straight? I don't think so. Gay people make up a large portion of this country. At one time the statistic was 1/10, but that was over ten years ago (I'm pretty sure) when homosexuality was even more objected against than it is now. There's no telling how many people are more comfortable with their sexuality now than they were then. I'd be willing to guess a modern statistic would be closer to 3/10 or higher. The only thing that gets me about a lot of homosexual themes in movies etc... is how it is portrayed. Rather than a love story, they advertise it as a love story between two men. If it starred Mathew McConaughey and Sandra Bullock it would be a love story, if it starred McConaughey and Vin Deisel it would be a love story...with men! I think that's what has so infuriated homophobes and the religious right about Brokeback Mountain. Jake Gyllenhaal isn't walking around in a pink bikini and acting like an outcast from "Will & Grace," he's just a normal person, which is what homesexuals are. In fact, if it weren't for the hype and people talking about it, I never would have even been able to pick up from the TV spots and other publicity material that Brokeback was even about gay cowboys.

"Homosexuality by definition is an exclusive attraction of a person of one gender to a person of another gender." Woops, I meant: Homosexuality by definition is an exclusive attraction of a person of one gender to a person of the same gender.

Sigh. I always like to think that the sf fan community is more evolved than the community at large, then you get a virulent outpouring of homophobia like this. How is that some fans can can accept aliens, mutants, and robots of every variety, but freak out when confronted with humans of a different sexual orientation? And about the whole "unnatural" thing: First, that's debatable. Heck, there are species on this planet that actually switch gender at various stages in their lives. But even if homosexuality was not found in nature . . . so what? Neither are microwave ovens or artificial hearts. The whole point of being human is that we are NOT driven solely by our instincts. We can choose our own behavior. At the risk of betraying my Trekkie roots, what part of "infinite diversity in infinite combinations" don't you understand?

This argument against gay people is very embarassing, and I am really disturbed by the hatred toward homosexuals. I, like Kurt, know people who are gay and am not repelled by them. They are just people with a different sexual orientation. They don't run around trying to "convert people" or whatever it is you homophobics think. Wow... such hatred... in this day and age... it is just horrible.

"I don't mind gays, I just want them to stick to their own kind and stay out of sight." Just as a mental exercise, try substituting "blacks" or "Jews" for "gays." Sounds kind of creepy, doesn't it? No doubt someone will protest that being black or Jewish isn't "wrong" or "unnatural." Well, go back a few generations and a majority of Americans might have felt otherwise. Fortunately, things are changing. It's called progress. Ultimately, this isn't about "morality" or "normalacy," it's about civil rights. Why should gays and lesbians feel compelled to skulk in the shadows for fear of offending others? And since when did science fiction fans worry so much about normalacy?