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Who would win in a fight- Professor X or Jarvis?

By Joel Rickenbach     April 04, 2012

I don't know about you, but I just can't help it. I can't help opening up my wallet and forking over my hard earned geek simoleons for the annual company-wide crossovers. They are the comic book equivalent of the summer blockbuster, and for better or worse- I can't help but go see those too. I don't know what it is about the warm, post-vernal months, but everyone seems to be in event mode. In recent years Marvel and DC have ramped up the spectacle. Turning what was once innocuous fun such as "Atlantis Attacks" into Civil Wars, Secret Invasions and Fill-in-the-blank Crisises.  Last year's offerings had mixed results. DC's "Flashpoint" was a fun, if not clumsy, way to close the book on their current universe, leading to the zeitgeist of the “New 52”. Marvel's "Fear Itself" started off incredibly strong, but by the end had many readers wondering what the point was to begin with (All due respect to Matt Fraction, who remains one of the best writers in the business). This summer my geek wallet may actually contain more than just my "Ralphs" card, as DC is sitting this one out to continue pruning their new universe. That leaves Marvel to lace up the gloves and give us a heavyweight bout they are calling "Avengers vs X-Men".

Let's rewind a moment for a little perspective. Back in the early to mid 90's any book with an "X" in the title was a license to print money. Literally. Retailers ordered 8 million copies of Jim Lee's X-Men #1. That's "million" as in "million", top selling titles these days are lucky to break 300,000. I suppose it was destiny that made X-men the choice of Gen-X. We were ALL outsiders, and we had the flannel shirts and distressed jeans to prove it. The Avengers? Rusting figureheads of the bygone Silver Age.

I don't remember which Marvel writer it was, and apologies that I don't have the time to dig up old issues of “Wizard Magazine” to find out, but trust me when I say the following outcome is nevertheless true. Said writer was guest editing the Wizard letter column, and came across the tried and true fanboy question: "Who would win in a fight- The X-men or The Avengers?" Ha! Was this a serious question? Wolverine has CLAWS! Storm can control the WEATHER! Nightcrawler can T-E-L-E-P-O-R-T! Now the writer, regardless of sales and popularity, knows where all the pieces in the Marvel U fit, and responds with the incendiary "Ummm… Iron Man could single-handedly take out the X-men. All of them. And still get home in plenty of time to sleep with Miss March. Twice."
Cue outrage.
Iron Man?? When was the last time THAT guy was relevant? (Oh what a difference a decade makes!) It only got worse as the facts kept crashing down- Thor is a GOD! The Hulk? Forget the Hulk, BRUCE BANNER could defeat the X-men, and Hawkeye… OK, maybe not Hawkeye, but still, the writing was on the wall- An “X” gene is no match for the mighty Mjölnir.
Fast forward to present day. The Avengers are the crux of the Marvel universe, and the storylines in the X-books have become outcasts, much like the characters they portray. Hell, there’s only 300 or so mutants left after the Scarlet Witch depowered 98% of them in the 2005 crossover “House of M”. If only the mutants had a sign… something to give them Hope… Something like, I don’t know, the Phoenix force returning, and attaching itself to the only mutant who has been born in the Marvel U in the last 7 years... One could interpret that as a herald of the mutant species re-emergence. One could also interpret that as “Holy s***!! The last time that thing came around it almost destroyed the world as we know it!!” That’s pretty much the short version of why the Avengers and X-men will be duking it out at your local comic shop this summer (If any real in-store fights break out, please send photographic evidence!). Stalwart fans will tell you this is the culmination of the past decade’s worth of crossovers. Those on a budget will tell you it’s just another cash grab that will probably end up meaning nothing. I’ll tell you it’s probably a bit of both, but with the talent involved it should be a ton of fun.
The fateful words of that early 90’s writer must still be echoing through the halls of Marvel editorial, because the big M is taking the “Who would win in a fight” question head on. Not only are they publishing the 12 issue core “Avengers vs X-men” book, but they are also releasing a series of “AvX: VS” books that each feature two different fights between an Avenger and an X-man. 22 pages devoted solely to your beloved characters punching the crap out of each other, what’s not to love?
Honestly though, I think all comic fans can agree with an age old piece of sports wisdom: “It’s not whether you win or lose, it’s how you play the game.” Suckers such as myself want to believe the event books I’m shelling out for actually mean something, and the naysayers dare the big companies to publish something that is not only artistically viable, but vital. In 6 months we’ll know the answer to such questions, but in the meantime lets all just try and enjoy the ride.
But seriously, Red Hulk could take out the X-men with his thermonuclear sweat.

The prologue “X-Sanction” #1-4, and “Avengers vs X-men” #0 are on shelves now.
“Avengers vs X-men” #1 hits shelves today, and runs bi-weekly through October.


New comic releases for 4/4/2012

Glamourpuss #24

Yankee Girl Stars And Stripes Forever #1

Ramiel Wrath Of God #1
Richie Rich Gems #45

Billy Tucci A Child Is Born (One Shot)
Interagents GN
Lethal Instinct GN
Redneck Kings GN
Sterling GN

Archie Meets KISS HC (Collectors Edition)
Archie Meets KISS TP
Sonic The Hedgehog #235
World Of Archie Double Digest #16

Dicks #3 (John McCrea Classic Black & White Cover)
Dicks #3 (John McCrea Offensive Cover)
Dicks #3 (John McCrea Regular Cover)
Ferals #4 (Gabriel Andrade Gore Cover)
Ferals #4 (Gabriel Andrade Regular Cover)
Ferals #4 (Gabriel Andrade Slashed Cover)
Ferals #4 (Gabriel Andrade Wraparound Cover)

Legend Of Oz The Wicked West #3 (Alisson Borges Cover
Legend Of Oz The Wicked West #3 (Nei Ruffino Cover)
Penny For Your Soul False Prophet #4 (Of 7)(JB Neto Cover)
Penny For Your Soul False Prophet #4 (Of 7)(Rob Duenas Cover)

Simpsons Confidential TP

Adventure Time #2 (Chris Houghton 2nd Printing Variant Cover)
Clive Barker's Hellraiser Masterpieces #11
Fanboys Vs Zombies #1 (Cover A Humberto Ramos)
Fanboys Vs Zombies #1 (Cover B Ale Garza)
Fanboys Vs Zombies #1 (Cover C Khary Randolph)
Fanboys Vs Zombies #1 (Cover D Matteo Scalera)
Fanboys Vs Zombies #1 (Cover E Ulises Farinas Wrapround Variant)
Fanboys Vs Zombies #1 (Cover F Humberto Ramos Sketch Variant)
Fanboys Vs Zombies #1 (Cover G Ale Garza Sketch Variant)
Fanboys Vs Zombies #1 (Cover H Arthur Suydam CGC 9.8 Variant)
Farscape Volume 7 The War For The Uncharted Territories Part One TP
Incorruptible #28 (Cover A Garry Brown)
Incorruptible #28 (Cover B Matteo Scalera)
Stan Lee's Soldier Zero Volume 3 TP
Supurbia #1 (Of 4)(Jonboy Meyers 2nd Printing Variant Cover)
Supurbia #2 (Of 4)
Valen The Outcast #5 (Cover A Khary Randolph)
Valen The Outcast #5 (Cover B Eddie Nunez)
Valen The Outcast #5 (Cover C Matteo Scalera)
Valen The Outcast #5 (Cover D Khary Randolph Sketch Variant)
Valen The Outcast #5 (Cover E Eddie Nunez Sketch Variant)

Lady Death #16 (Matt Martin Regular Cover)
Lady Death #16 (Matt Martin Sultry Cover)
Lady Death #16 (Michael Dipascale Art Deco Cover)
Lady Death #16 (Richard Ortiz Wraparound Cover)
Lady Death Origins Cursed #1 (Of 3)(Jason Eden Regular Cover)
Lady Death Origins Cursed #1 (Of 3)(Michael Dipascale Art Deco Cover)
Lady Death Origins Cursed #1 (Of 3)(Michael Dipascale Sultry Cover)
Lady Death Origins Cursed #1 (Of 3)(Michael Dipascale Wraparound Cover)

Creepy #8
Criminal Macabre Die Die My Darling (One Shot)
Jeremiah Omnibus Volume 1 HC

Action Comics #8 (Combo Pack Edition)
Action Comics #8 (Gary Frank Variant Cover)
Action Comics #8 (Rags Morales Black & White Variant Cover)
Action Comics #8 (Rags Morales Regular Cover)
American Vampire #25
Animal Man #8
Batman #5 (Greg Capullo 3rd Printing Variant Cover)
Batman Beyond Unlimited #1 (Dustin Nguyen 2nd Printing Variant Cover)
Batman Gotham Shall Be Judged TP
Batwing #8
Detective Comics #8 (Combo Pack Edition)
Detective Comics #8 (Tony S. Daniel Black & White Variant Cover)
Detective Comics #8 (Tony S. Daniel Regular Cover)
Fairest #2
Flash By Geoff Johns Omnibus Volume 2 HC
Flex Mentallo Man Of Muscle Mystery HC (Deluxe Edition)
Green Arrow #8
Hawk And Dove #8 (Final Issue)
I Zombie #24
Jack Kirby's Fourth World Omnibus Volume 2 TP
Justice League #5 (Jim Lee & Scott Williams 2nd Printing Variant Cover)
Justice League International #8
Legends Of The Dark Knight Jim Aparo HC
Looney Tunes #206
Men Of War #8 (Final Issue)
Night Force #2 (Of 6)
O.M.A.C. #8 (Final Issue)
Red Lanterns #8
Saga Of The Swamp Thing Volume 1 TP
Scooby-Doo Where Are You #20
Static Shock #8 (Final Issue)
Stormwatch #8 (Miguel Sepulveda Black & White Variant Cover)
Stormwatch #8 (Miguel Sepulveda Regular Cover)
Swamp Thing #8 (Yanick Paquette Black & White Variant Cover)
Swamp Thing #8 (Yanick Paquette Regular Cover)
Sweet Tooth #32

Boys #65
Dejah Thoris And The White Apes Of Mars #1 (Ale Garza Risque Variant Cover)
Dejah Thoris And The White Apes Of Mars #1 (Ale Garza Variant Cover)
Dejah Thoris And The White Apes Of Mars #1 (Brandon Peterson Regular Cover)
Dejah Thoris And The White Apes Of Mars #1 (Brandon Peterson Risque Variant Cover)
Garth Ennis' Jennifer Blood #11 (Ale Garza Variant Cover)
Garth Ennis' Jennifer Blood #11 (Tim Bradstreet Black & White Variant Cover)
Garth Ennis' Jennifer Blood #11 (Tim Bradstreet Regular Cover)
Ennis' Jennifer Blood #11 (Tim Bradstreet Virgin Variant Cover)
Kirby Genesis #6 (Alex Ross Marvel-ous Acetate Variant Cover)
Kirby Genesis #6 (Alex Ross Regular Cover)
Kirby Genesis #6 (Alex Ross Virgin Variant Cover)
Kirby Genesis #6 (Ryan Sook Black & White Variant Cover)
Kirby Genesis #6 (Ryan Sook Variant Cover)
Lone Ranger #4 (Francesco Francavilla Regular Cover)
Queen Sonja #28 (Frank Martin Regular Cover)
Queen Sonja #28 (Lucio Parrillo Regular Cover)
Robert Jordan's The Wheel Of Time The Eye Of The World #23
Voltron Year One #1 (Admira Wijaya Regular Cover)
Voltron Year One #1 (Admira Wijaya Virgin Variant Cover)
Voltron Year One #1 (Jonathan Lau Black & White Variant Cover)
Voltron Year One #1 (Jonathan Lau Variant Cover)
Warehouse 13 #5 (Of 5)(Ben Morse Regular Cover)
Warehouse 13 #5 (Of 5)(Photo Regular Cover)
Witchblade Red Sonja #2 (Ale Garza Black & White Variant Cover)
Witchblade Red Sonja #2 (Ale Garza Regular Cover)

SFX #219

30 Days Of Night #6 (Davide Furno Regular Cover)
30 Days Of Night #6 (Ming Doyle Variant Cover)
30 Days Of Night Volume 1 The Beginning Of The End TP
Cold War Volume 1 The Damocles Contract TP
G.I. JOE #12 (Cover A Will Rosado)
G.I. JOE #12 (Cover B Steve Ellis)
G.I. JOE #12 (Will Rosado Black & White Variant Cover)
G.I. JOE Cobra Volume 2 Cobra Civil War TP
How To Draw Transformers SC
Infestation 2 30 Days Of Night (One Shot)(Cover A Sam Shearon)
Infestation 2 30 Days Of Night (One Shot)(Cover B Livio Ramondelli)
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Carbon Grey Origins #2 (Of 2)(Cover B Khari Evans & Kinsun Loh)
Chew #25
Danger Club #1
Fatale #3 (2nd Printing Variant Cover)
Fatale #4
Hell Yeah #1 (2nd Printing Variant Cover)
Hell Yeah #2
Invincible #90
Manhattan Projects #1 (2nd Printing Variant Cover)
Mudman #3
Savage Dragon #179
Skullkickers #13
Skullkickers Treasure Trove Volume 1 HC
Spawn #218
Supreme #63 (Cory Hamscher Variant Cover)
Supreme #63 (Erik Larsen Regular Cover)
Supreme #63 (Rob Liefeld Variant Cover)
Whispers #2

Knights Of The Dinner Table Bundle Of Trouble Volume 35 TP

Age Of Apocalypse #2 (Christian Nauck Avengers Art Appreciation Variant Cover)
Age Of Apocalypse #2 (Humberto Ramos Regular Cover)
Amazing Spider-Man #683 (Gabriele Dell'Otto Variant Cover)
Amazing Spider-Man #683 (Mike Del Mundo Avengers Art Appreciation Variant Cover)
Amazing Spider-Man #683 (Stefano Caselli Regular Cover)
Avengers Academy #28
Avengers Hawkeye Solo TP
Avengers Legion Of The Unliving TP
Avengers Mythos HC
Avengers Vs X-Men #1 (Of 12)(Avengers Team Comic Shop Variant Cover)
Avengers Vs X-Men #1 (Of 12)(Blank Variant Cover)
Avengers Vs X-Men #1 (Of 12)(Jim Cheung Regular Cover)
Avengers Vs X-Men #1 (Of 12)(John Romita Jr. Variant Cover)
Avengers Vs X-Men #1 (Of 12)(Ryan Stegman Sketch Variant Cover)
Avengers Vs X-Men #1 (Of 12)(Ryan Stegman Variant Cover)
Avengers Vs X-Men #1 (Of 12)(X-Men Team Comic Shop Variant Cover)
Avengers West Coast Avengers Assemble TP
Brilliant #3 (David Mack Variant Cover)
Brilliant #3 (Mark Bagley Regular Cover)
Brilliant #3 (Michael Avon Oeming Variant Cover)
Casanova Avaritia #3 (Of 4)
Daredevil #10.1
Fear Itself The Fearless #12 (Of 12)
Hulk #50 (Arthur Adams Variant Cover)
Hulk #50 (Blank Variant Cover)
Hulk #50 (Carlo Pagulayan Regular Cover)
Hulk #50 (DCD Summit 2012 Inked Variant Cover)
Hulk #50 (Humberto Ramos Variant Cover)
Hulk #50 (Walter Simonson Variant Cover)
Marvel Universe Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes Adventures Comic Reader #1
Marvel Universe Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes Adventures Comic Reader #2
Marvel's The Avengers Prelude Fury's Big Week #3 (Of 4)(was 'Prelude To Marvel's The Avengers')
New Mutants #40
Secret Avengers #24
Spider-Man The Return Of Anti-Venom TP
Thunderbolts #172
Toy Story #2 (Of 4)
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #9
Venom #15
Wolverine And The X-Men #8
Wolverine And The X-Men Alpha And Omega #4 (Of 5)
X-Club #5 (Of 5)

Honey West #5 (Black & White Photo Cover)(resolicited)
Honey West #5 (Marat Mychaels Regular Cover)(resolicited)
Honey West #5 (Photo Cover)(resolicited)
Kolchak The Night Stalker Files #3 (Dave Ulanski Variant Cover)(resolicited)
Kolchak The Night Stalker Files #3 (Woodrow Hinton III Regular Cover)(resolicited)
Zombies Vs Cheerleaders #6 (Cover A Daniel Campos)
Zombies Vs Cheerleaders #6 (Cover B David Cutler)
Zombies Vs Cheerleaders #6 (Cover C Jason Pedersen)
Zombies Vs Cheerleaders #6 (Cover D Elizabeth Torque)

2000 AD #1770

Dead Or Alive #3 (Of 4)

Pack #3 (Of 3)

Lenore Volume II #5 (Dead Crow Cover)
Lenore Volume II #5 (Lenore Cover)

Bakuman Volume 10 TP
Bleach Volume 39 TP
Blue Exorcist Volume 7
Dawn Of The Arcana Volume 3 TP
Devil And Her Love Song Volume 2 
Kamisama Kiss Volume 8 TP
Pokemon Black And White Volume 6
Pokemon The Movie White Victini And Zekrom
Rosario + Vampire Season II Volume 8 TP
Sakura Hime The Legend Of Princess Sakura Volume 7
Skip Beat Volume 27 TP
Slam Dunk Volume 21
Toriko Volume 9
Voltron Force Volume 1 Shelter From The Storm

Grimm Fairy Tales #71 (Cover A Rich Bonk)
Grimm Fairy Tales #71 (Cover B Anthony Spay)
Grimm Fairy Tales April Fools Special 2012
Grimm Fairy Tales Presents The Library #5 (Cover A Marat Mychaels)
Grimm Fairy Tales Presents The Library #5 (Cover B Joe Pekar)
Waking Dream End #1 (Cover A Ale Garza)
Waking Dream End #1 (Cover B Eric Basaldua)

Joel Rickenbach is a curator of cult cinema at the Colonial Theatre in Phoenixville, PA, and can be heard every week talking film, TV and other geekery on the You’ve got GEEK podcast. Follow him on Twitter and hilarity will no doubt ensue.



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thezillaman 4/4/2012 1:17:51 AM

i know that i have nothing to say about this article, and was wondering more about DISTRITC 9 part two seems it just vanished ?? sorry i know this is not the post for what im talking about just thought  the movie was so good why are we not getting any info on that?  so for my thoughts on Avengers vs. X-men i think it's a close call but i have to give it to the X-men.

vitieddie 4/4/2012 3:47:42 AM


Roqueja 4/4/2012 6:02:02 AM

Very happy for the return of comicscape.  It and the Spinner Rack have been missed.  Thank you.

Avengers for the win.  The deck is stacked in their favour, with the real winners being the fans reading the clash. 

goldeneyez 4/4/2012 6:06:23 AM

 My wallet.  I'm passing on this one although it does sound fun.  I'm just tired of crossovers.

lusiphur 4/4/2012 6:09:16 AM

 Avengers will win because of the movie tie-in and Marvel owning the film rights.  Suck it Fox!  Or it will end in a draw or, worse yet, a larger threat will emerge and they will band together to defeat it.

Wiseguy 4/4/2012 6:15:18 AM

Yes thank you for bringing comics back to mania.

AvX baby I am pumped for this. Sanction was great.

At the end it'll be a draw more than likely as they either come to an understanding and stand down. But it's not always the destination but the ride and this shoulkd be a hoot

Wiseguy 4/4/2012 6:22:25 AM

I never picked up DC once they relaunched their universe with 52. I mean love DC but Marvel has always been tops with me anyway. Has anyone here been reading them and do you recommend it? I believe the trades are about to come out soon and was wondering if I should jump in.

Btw welcome Joel, nice piece. Hope to be seeing more from you from now on

gauleyboy420 4/4/2012 6:48:56 AM

Thank you for bring comics back to Mania!

If I wasn't so poor right now (taxes) I'd be buying these up... guess I'll wait for the trades.

jedibanner 4/4/2012 6:51:00 AM

Great to have comics as part of Mania's articles, love this, thank you Joel, can't wait to see what you write next.

As far as A Vs X, so far the story is very interesting and the art is at it's best. They really pulled a great team to be part of this and it should be fun to read who does what and who beats who cause from what has come out so far, no one is holding back and it should be fun to see what happens next.

karas1 4/4/2012 7:08:36 AM

Comicscape is back!  Fabjoyous day!

Wise, it depends on the book.  I by no means read everything that DC puts out but there are books I've been loving (Legion of Superheros, Nightwing, Red Hood and the Outlaws) and stuff I'm ready to drop (Justice League Dark) and a bunch of stuff inbetween.  Just pick up a few issues and sample.  If you like what you read dive in.

Can't say much about the Avengers vs X-Men thing.  I haven't bought any Marvel books since the '90s.  But I have come to really despise the gigantic cross overs.  It's a tactic to make you fork over for titles you don't usually buy to get the complete story.  And the stories are usually so large and sprawling and include so many characters that they are practically inchoherant.  Not a good choice for limited spending money.

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