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ObiWannaJones 6/6/2012 7:07:20 AM

 Gauleyboy hit the nail on the head regarding Alan Moore: he's a hypocrite, outright.  Most of his career he has made  $$$$ off rewriting other's creations. SwampThing anybody?  

DarthoftheDead 6/6/2012 7:13:34 AM

This title wil lNOT be getting my money....Now if Mr Moore wanted to write a Sequel.....who knows?....

Roqueja 6/6/2012 7:35:09 AM

I've always enjoyed finding out more about great stories that I've read, and Watchmen was one of the best.  Star Wars was another, and one of the best things Lucas ever did was create the expanded universe and let other people write stories about  his characters.  There are now many great stories involving some of my favorite characters that I loved from the first time I seen or read.  Sure some stories don't hold up, and there are some misfires along the way as taste in writing is largely individual perspective.

I say give the amazing talent of today a shot at some great characters and have fun with it.  It's comics.  Comics equals fun.  For me anyway.

jedibanner 6/6/2012 8:02:45 AM

Fun is someone's opinion Roqueja...I have fun reading Garth Ennis's ''Crossed'' titles...but many don't. I have fun reading Bendis's Powers but many don't.

Like you said it is everyone's individual perspective which is why many will choose to ignore these books and I hope it sends a message that many won't buy it, many don't care for it and many DIDN"T ask for it also.

About the ''hypocrisy'' of Alan Moore...I would be very prudent about this opinion since Alan Moore was ask to write these books and he new in advance they were in a specific universe pre-written or created by others. When dealing with Watchmen, DC said, write something, create something, it's all yours. VERY DIFFERENT then Swap Thing or LOEG or Marvel Man since those were already established in a continuity.

THAT is my point my friends and ennemies (I'm just kidding folks....no one is my friend), Watchmen was created in the frame of mind that it was within a seperate universe only for this story...I'm pretty sure if Alan Moore knew in advance DC wouldlv'e created more books from what he created, he wouldn't have written Watchmen at ALL...and he would have every right.

I'd rather loose something as great as Watchment then have it spit on, crapped on and defiled by writters who cannot even to begin to respect the frame of mind that Alan Moore poured into these characters.

See....lost control again. ...arrgg.......hhhurrgggg......no....nOOOO......AAAAAAAARRRG,  DAMM YOU PUNY MANIACS, JEDIBANNER SMASH PUNY ''BEFORE WATCHMEN''!!!

DarthoftheDead 6/6/2012 8:12:33 AM

Quickly Jedibanner, I saw "Before Watchmen" hanging out in comic shops in Gotham City!!!!!!"

SarcasticCaveman 6/6/2012 8:43:55 AM

Um...I'm not entirely getting your point about Watchmen being a separate universe only for that story, jedibanner...okay, so it's a separate universe...does this universe not have a past or a future?...

For the record, I could really give a crap...I don't read comics anymore.  Couldn't afford my habit, time to give it up.

tjanson 6/6/2012 9:00:08 AM

Swamp Thing was Moore's best work, especially issues 21 - 50.  Case closed.

SinisterPryde 6/6/2012 9:03:01 AM

Not to belabor the obvious here, but DC isn't changing Watchmen.  I checked.  There is not a single edition of the graphic novel being put out with altered, deleted, or added panels.  Not one word is being changed.  No, seriously, its true.  The graphic novel we all know and, in some cases, love isn't being altered in any way shape or form.  Watchmen as Alan Moore intended it is being published the way he intended it.

Creator rights isn't at issue here.  Whatever promises were made to Alan Moore are, I am sad to say, irrelevant.   DC owns the rights.  We don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.  Alan Moore doesn't have any say in what does or doesn't happen with these characters. 

@JediBanner - The Marvelman point is a good one.  Moore did that one because he was hired to do so.  I don't think the same arguement could be made for League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

And while I understand that this is a moot point since history didn't work out this way, how would Moore be reacting right now if DC had let him use the Charelston characters? 

tjanson 6/6/2012 9:06:29 AM

Obiwanna...as far as Swamp Thing goes I would not call that an accurate comparison.  Swamp Thing was about to be canceled when Len Wein decided to give the title to a then relatively unknown Moore to do with what he wanted.  Let's no forget that Wein was co-creator of Swamp Thing to begin with.  And now Animal Man is getting heavy praise as being one of DCs best New 52 titles  and essentially Lemire is just ripping off what Moore did almost 30 years ago.

tjanson 6/6/2012 9:10:44 AM

Sinister...even if the original Watchmen HAD been changed it would not change it in your mind.  DC has just rebooted its universe for the umpteenth time.  They've basically erased the Golden Age.  But that doesn't mean those stories never took place to those that read them.  This is why reboots are just bad Ideologically.  Too much time and effort is spent trying to make decades of continuity fit.  It's a losing proposition.

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