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gauleyboy420 6/6/2012 8:54:41 PM

Vitieddie,

Don't you remember Jedi's secret? "He's ALWAYS angry" ;)

As for Alan Moore, bestI can tell he's very "eccentric" and thats pretty much it... But if he wasn't so "eccentric" he prolly wouldn't be as good of a writer.

zalder 6/6/2012 9:53:21 PM

You are miss-interpreting IP rights.  You buy the IP you have the rights to it.  You don't want to give someone else those rights you don't sell them or sign a contract that gives someone else the right to do it.  *shrug* rage all you want but the law is the law and he who owns the rights owns the rights.

Betenoire 6/7/2012 1:12:05 AM

Posted a though on the forum cause I can't get the damn thing to post here. Can't post link to the forum on this site either. 

vitieddie 6/7/2012 2:47:10 AM

 @ betenoire ... usually i just post "google this ..." and describe in words etc

gauleyboy420 6/7/2012 8:24:09 AM

It's funny, I remember years ago Mania's posting was really wonky, then it got a good bit better, and now it seems as wonky as ever...

tjanson 6/7/2012 9:59:42 AM

Sinister...I don't think you're correct about Moore getting the rights to Watchmen when it went out of print.  There were a number of factors that led to his split from DC including merchandising and royalties but given the comic business I could not see DC or Marvel ever agreeing to give the rights to a character back to a creator. 

SinisterPryde 6/7/2012 10:32:34 AM

tjanson- you could be right.  I thought I recalled reading that in an interview with him but that was a few years ago and it is entirely possible that I misinterpreted what was being said.

Aside from Moore's statements on the matter I don't recall there ever being a decisive reason for the falling out.  After posting that I did read a little and found that DC allegedly withheld royalties for book sales and merchandise (since it was listed as "promotional").  I read this on wiki and I know how accurate that can be (sarcasm).

 

jedibanner 6/7/2012 11:16:49 AM

Things that didn't help Mr. Moore's disaprouval of the overal comic industry is when the companies like WB and DC started making adds that Alan was ''on board'' with so-and-so project and saying he liked the movie adaptationd and all that.

Mixed with the issue of the rights of Watchmen and the comic industry itself, it was easy for him to have more control over how he wanted to write things in a different medium (books, comics at Avatar Press, etc...).

MAN am I angry......don't know why...just AM!!!

Damm DC....

SinisterPryde 6/7/2012 11:28:19 AM

While I can't link to the website (or even post the url apparently) I did find a couple of interviews from 2005 where Moore describes the nature of his contract with DC for both Watchmen and V for Vendetta.  To wit, DC owns the right while the books are in print and after a year of disuse (by DC) the rights would revert back to Moore and his artists.  However, what no one could have predicted at the time was that the books would remain in print 25 years later.  So Moore never got the rights back and feels, justifiably, that he got screwed by th elanguage of the contract.

jedibanner 6/7/2012 1:22:03 PM

Makes sense that creators always feel like they are getting the shaft.

Sure legally DC owns the right but, if at the time things were approached a certain way just to screw the other party (non-DC or any other company), it's normal that many people got fu%#ed by the big 3 companies in the past and now they can't benefit what they though they were owed.

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