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heath0920 5/31/2012 8:29:20 AM

jedibanner, you're abosutely right. Young Avengers is a case study for writers of how to write gay characters who are gay instead of GAY CHARACTERS.where their sexuality is the only issue that defines them. I'm sure it helps that Alan Heinberg is a gay man who has seen his share of the lack of quality gay characters in literature, TV, and film. I have no idea if he has dealt with discrimination, but I love that he never drove their relationship down the reader's throats (I'm looking at you, Judd Winick) but instead had them develop naturally and their kiss didn't feel like a publicity stunt or sales gimmick. Kudos to the entire creative staff for that one.

InnerSanctum 5/31/2012 8:35:25 AM

 Men don't chase after lesbians.  They fantacize about the ideal of two women because there is no man present.  And, they wish they were in the mix.  Fanboys can be major nerds...why all the women in comics have giant breasts and woman on woman porn is popular.  Me...personally...well, I think threesomes are overrated.  Trust me.  Some things best left to fantasy.

joelr 5/31/2012 9:36:27 AM

I agree with what a lot of you are saying, I just failed to put it as succinctly in the article- If being gay is what defines a character, then the writers have essentially failed. Wiccan, Hulking and Batwoman are all examples of how to do it right, which makes these "events" seem like cash grabs. The media has ran with the Astonishing X-Men wedding, but lets not forget that Marvel gave The View an exclusive on the announcement. As I said in the article- if you are gay and read comics, and this event, regardless of hype, is something special to you, then that is fantastic. I'm excited to pick up A X-Men #51 too, I just hope the next time Marvel wants to have two same sex charactes get married they can just do it like business as usual.

As a side note- I don't want people to think I had a horrible High School existence, I actually had a great time in my High school years, but reading comics and playing videos games was not exactly a way to endear yourself to the normals (we're talkin' early to mid-90's here). And @Hanso- I played Baseball from little league through HS, but it doesn't completely tip the scales!

lazarus 5/31/2012 11:38:41 AM

The problem I have is when the sexuality aspect begins to detract from the story or the character. Simply put, it becomes a blantant attempt to appease a demographic sect instead of just telling a story.

Christ it would be like making Rhodey latino in the movie just to cater to that part of the demographic.

The way Marvel is doing this, that is what it feels like, and it pisses me off. You want to include gay characters, good for you. Just don't make it define or alter the story.

Another note that Marvel, DC and the other publishers should be considering is the backlash from this. There is a STRONG contengent of the population that disagrees with this lifestyle/choice/genetic expression and will push this belief. Just when comics are beginning to make a comeback they could kill their own momentum by doing this so publically. You want to see the Mutant war in reality. What for the gay movement issue to come to a head. I live in the south and I know here there is serious, violent and passionate fighting about this. Yes gentlemen, there a war coming, and it will have no winner.

Not saying I am for this, I am just saying, it is coming. And soon. Watch the news. This is an issue that will be fought over in the streets.

karas1 5/31/2012 12:25:06 PM

This is an issue which has already been fought over in the streets.

In a generation LGBTs will be integrated into the popular culture and nobody will remember why this was such a big deal.  It's happened with all kinds of minorities.  Some new minority will come along to attract public ire and bashing gays will be passe.

In the meantime there's a culture war and we all have to muddle through it as best we can.

hanso 5/31/2012 2:06:53 PM

 I'm buying dildos and taking to the streets to fight the war. Those are brave men knocking on our door.  Let's go dildo them!


@Joel, good for you bro.  I thought you had the worst time.  Thanks for clearing that up.

Tonebone 5/31/2012 2:27:29 PM

No disrespect lazarus, but I find that argument lame and ridiculous. With that stance, nothing ever gets accomplished or changed.

And just as the bigoted and ignorant will rant and rave about an issue that has no effect on their everyday life whatsoever, there will be those of us right there to debate the issue and point out how ridiculous it is to think a gay couple or gay marriage has any bearing on a straight couple or straight marriage.

hanso 5/31/2012 3:19:09 PM

I hope the new minority that gets picked on are the handicapped.  Why do they get to park so close?

Wiseguy 5/31/2012 3:46:57 PM

The new minority that needs support are midgets and dwarfs. They should be able to take a shit with their feet firmly planted on the ground. Taking a dump with your feet dangling in the air is very discomforting, especially when you have to push hard, very easy to fall in.

I say we lower all toilets in support for our short friends

hanso 5/31/2012 3:57:39 PM

 LOL LOL LOL!  I agree. 

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